In short
A Utah couple’s first date turns into a moonlit shooting; the surviving woman recounts the attack, recovery, and the long criminal-justice aftermath, including the shooter’s motives and sentencing.
Guest backgrounds
The narrator is a shooting survivor and mother (32) who later became a criminal-justice attorney working with victims of crime. She is connected to Zach Snarr, a teenage boy killed in the incident. She also mentions Yvette Rodier, another shooting victim who survived.
Key claims
The attacker, Jorge Benvenuto (Uruguayan immigrant, 19), carried out a random “thrill kill,” seeking to watch someone die and later accepting a plea deal for life without parole to avoid the death penalty. The survivor describes survivor’s guilt, extensive injuries (multiple surgeries), and fear that the attacker would return.
Notable examples
The full-moon photo plan; the white truck and gunfire on a mountain path; the helicopter ride; Benvenuto buying cookies with Zach’s money; the courtroom victim statement; the plea bargain and later appeal.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe First Date
0:15 to 2:00
Recollections of a first date filled with excitement and nostalgia.
“Not really afraid of the moon, but just that something bad could happen during a full moon.”
The Attack
2:00 to 6:42
A sudden and violent encounter changes everything during a romantic evening.
“And then he pulled out his photography equipment.”
Desperate Struggle for Help
6:42 to 9:24
In a desperate attempt to seek help, the victim faces a harrowing situation.
“And it was the worst silence that I've ever heard in my whole life.”
Hospitalization and Recovery
9:24 to 12:11
The aftermath of the attack as the victim navigates recovery and trauma.
“She was in and out of consciousness and every once in a while she kept saying, when is the help coming?”
The Horrific News
12:11 to 14:00
The devastating impact of the shooting unfolds as families receive tragic news.
“After the surgery, a social worker came in, and she asked me for Zach's parents' number.”
The Arrest of Jorge Benvenuto
14:00 to 18:00
Learn about the details surrounding the arrest of the murder suspect Jorge Benvenuto.
“And I would have given anything to switch and to let Zach be there and let them be hugging their own son.”
Understanding the Motive
18:00 to 22:20
Explore Jorge Benvenuto's disturbing motivations for the shooting.
“He had told them I just wanted to watch someone die.”
The Emotional Aftermath
22:20 to 27:20
Hear the profound emotional impact the murder had on Zach's family and friends.
“My mom made sure that someone was with me 24 hours a day in my room.”
The Courtroom Experience
27:20 to 28:00
Recount the family's harrowing experience in the courtroom facing Jorge Benvenuto.
“We were ready to ask for the death penalty.”
The Decision for a Plea Bargain
28:00 to 29:48
Explore the family's struggle with choosing a plea deal over a trial.
“And there will be countless appeals, countless habeas corpuses.”
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Courtroom Sentencing and Reactions
29:48 to 30:52
Discuss the emotional impact of the killer's sentencing on the victims' families.
“I know a lot of people were really shocked the fact that we plea bargained.”
The Trauma of Appeals
30:52 to 33:07
Examine the aftermath of the sentencing and the challenges posed by appeals.
“I was sure I was never going to see him again.”
Coping with Survivor's Guilt
33:07 to 35:04
Learn about the survivor's guilt experienced by the victim's family and their connection to another survivor.
“I refuse to give him that power or respect, and I've never said his name out loud, and I never will.”
A New Path: From Trauma to Advocacy
35:04 to 36:36
Discover how the trauma led to a new career in law focused on helping victims.
“I don't deserve it, but I appreciate it a lot.”
Remembering Zach: A Legacy of Love
36:36 to 39:04
Reflect on the enduring memory of Zach and how his spirit lives on.
“And while I don't tell my story with them, and they don't know what's happened to me, I do feel like I'm able to give them a sense of compassion that maybe other people can't, and that means the world to me.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:10It was a stunning summer night. The moon was out, beautiful full moon. I'm still afraid during full moons. Not really afraid of the moon, but just that something bad could happen during a full moon.
0:36On August 28, 1996, I went out on a date with my Zach. It was the very first time he'd asked me out on a date, and a part of me just thought, why would I go on a date with you? You're my Zach. You're my friend. But then I thought, absolutely.
1:02We just started driving up the canyon. I remember feeling that little twinge of excitement when you realize you really have a crush on someone and that they have a crush on you. Zach Snarr made me laugh. And that connected us from the very beginning. In high school, we just, it seemed like we had every class together and he'd always have some smart aleck remark to make when I walked in the classroom. And I think I started to look forward to those comments to see, well what would he say about me today?
1:48While we're driving, I remember thinking, I'm going to get a kiss tonight. Zack's gonna kiss me tonight.
1:59Zack turned into this parking lot and he said, well, I've got a surprise for you. And then he pulled out his photography equipment. And Zack was gonna teach me how to take pictures. He loved black and white pictures and we were gonna get pictures of this full moon tonight.
2:26We went down a cement pathway, probably 100 yards. And I think it was about that time that a white truck pulled up. And in Utah, at 9, 8.30 at night, cars pull up in the mountains. And you don't think anything at all.
2:58The man in the truck started walking toward us.
3:05And he asks me, do you know where this path goes? And I answered back saying something like, oh, I don't know, we've never been here, or I'm not sure. And that's when I turned my back. And I don't know if Zach turned his head too, but I hope that Zach turned away, because that's when the man pulled out a gun and just open fired.
3:44He aimed at us and let every single bullet out of his gun.
4:03I screamed. a loud shriek, bright, bright lights, pungent acid-y smell in the air, and my ears just started ringing. I don't know where the first bullet hit me, but my body just fell down. Then it's silent for a minute, and then I remember thinking, this is over now, this is over. and it turns out that the man is reloading his gun and he's getting bullets out of his pocket and putting them in his gun. When then three or four more shots and they feel really close and I can feel the speed and almost just wind brushing by.
4:54Then he stops, finally. I don't dare move at that point. All I could think of in my mind was hearing my dad saying, if a grizzly ever attacks you, you need to hold still and play dead. And so I held my breath, and I didn't close my eyes, and I stayed as still as I could. And when he moved my body, I just let it move with him, because I needed to be dead for him.
5:37When he touched me here on my hips, that was the first time I was really afraid. That's when I thought, well, he's going to rape me. And that terrified me much more than what he had just done to us because I didn't have a concept of what being shot was, but everybody's afraid to be raped.
6:07But he didn't. Instead, he was looking for money, I assume, and he reached in all my pockets. His face is this close to me, and he's breathing on me. And then the man ran up the mountain. And I know he's gone for sure when I hear Zach's car start up.
6:42I yelled Zach's name.
6:46And it was so quiet.
6:52And I yelled again, Zack!
6:58And it was the worst silence that I've ever heard in my whole life.
7:08Well, I couldn't walk. I couldn't stand. But my arms were moving, and my left leg was moving, and I realized the closest way to get to the road was up the mountain side.
7:27It felt so vertical that I just felt like I kept climbing up and then I'd fall back down. I could feel cars driving by. I could feel the wind brushing against my face. I knew I was so close to the road, but I have no idea how I got to the top.
7:57And I kneeled on the side of the road and waved my arms like this to the first car, and it didn't stop.
8:17Our plan was to get there in time to watch the moon rise.
8:25All of a sudden, in the headlights in front of us, crawled out from the side of the brush this woman covered in blood.
8:46It was like a horror movie, but much worse because it's real. She was in shock, but she was able to hold a conversation. The victim told me her name was Yvette Rodier, and that she and her friend had been shot. I wanted to help the person below, but I was afraid to go down there.
9:19At this point it was getting a little scary because we didn't know if the person who had shot her was still lurking in the area. She was in and out of consciousness and every once in a while she kept saying, when is the help coming? And we just kept saying, they're coming, they're coming.
9:53I remember getting in the helicopter.
10:03On the gurney, you know, facing straight up to the sky. And one of the first things this paramedic in the helicopter says is, well, you know, this is a beautiful night and we've got a pretty short flight, so let's just enjoy this.
10:35and it was a beautiful night and I do remember looking out at the sky and being up in the air and feeling safe and it's probably the last moment of peace I felt for a long time.
11:15I was shot at least four times and then several bullets grazed my head.
11:29One of the bullets came and hit this shoulder and just dug a chunk of skin out. One of them came to my side and actually did expand and open up this entire left side.
11:49Then one came in behind it, up higher, and came all the way through my torso to my inner thigh, and that's where it got lodged.
12:02And the fourth came right across my head.
12:11After the surgery, a social worker came in, and she asked me for Zach's parents' number.
12:25We were all in bed. It was quarter to one in the morning, and our doorbell rang.
12:36My daughter got up and answered the door, and she came in the bedroom, and she said, there's two detectives here, and they want to talk to you guys. And I sat straight up in bed, and I said, Zach's not home. And it's like it hit me, Zach's not home. So I think I, at that instant, I knew something was wrong. I went in there and I, first thing I said was, what's happened to my son? And they said, well, your son was involved in a shooting tonight. I was in such shock. I was hearing what they were saying, but it just wasn't registering. And I remember finally saying, are you telling me my son's dead?
13:18And they just kind of looked at me like, you know.
13:24It just was not real to me. And I just said, I have to go to the hospital. I have to go see a vet.
13:38I remember her leaning in and just hugging me and feeling her arms around me. And I'm pretty positive the first thing out of Sai's mouth was, we are so glad you lived.
13:58And that's still hard to think about because I felt horrible at that moment that I had lived. And I would have given anything to switch and to let Zach be there and let them be hugging their own son.
14:32It was a couple days after Zach was murdered that we were sitting out, I remember sitting out on the porch.
14:44And my dad came out and said they caught him, they caught him. And we all ran inside and the news was on. After allegedly shooting and leaving the two young people for dead at Little Dale Reservoir... There were all these reporters and all these flashes going off. A teen-year-old murder suspect was taken off to jail. Here's Jorge Benvenuto, a total stranger. I remember just looking at him thinking, who is this? Why? Investigators say Jorge Benvenuto had developed a fascination with death in recent weeks. Jorge Benvenuto was an immigrant from Uruguay. From what we've learned about him, he was just a loner.
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15:26It took the police a couple of days to find him. They knew immediately who it was because he had taken my brother's car and left his car behind. He also had my brother's wallet. They believe he abandoned his truck at the scene and took Snarr's Ford Bronco. The afternoon that they caught him, Ben Venuto had gone to a gas station and was buying cookies with the last of Zach's money. The gas station attendant recognized him because his picture had been all over the news. The police arrested him just behind the gas station. He was sitting eating the cookies.
16:06He just looked like this normal kid, you know, this young kid. and I just would stare at his picture for hours. The policeman told us that he was 19 years old. They told us he had come from Uruguay. He was living, he lived in New York for a while and then moved out to Utah. And that he had bought a gun a couple of weeks before and apparently somebody had robbed his house. It made him very angry.
16:38On the way to the interview, I was trying to understand what type of individual I would be talking with.
16:55During my conversation with Ben Venuto, he began offering his reason for shooting these two young people. Part of his explanation was that he was tired of living himself, that he wanted to do something so bad that he would have the courage to then kill himself.
17:16But he said that in fact he had lost his nerve after he had shot both of these individuals.
17:25He had a real power trip with the firearm. This made him feel powerful and somehow in control of things. When I described to Benvenuto that he had only completed killing one of the two individuals, the surprise was visible on his face. He was almost disappointed that this gun that he treasured and thought so highly of let him down.
18:01He had told them I just wanted to watch someone die. I want to see what it feels like to kill someone. I mean, they could have taken a knife and run it through my body. I don't think it would have been as painful, because that's when we realized how it was a thrill kill. It was a totally random thrill kill.
18:22I remember he was smiling and just looking into the camera. just made you sick. It just made me sick just to see him. In a way, I wish they would have just shot him right then and there.
18:52I remember the next morning waking up in my room and it was a beautiful morning and I remember the sun coming in through my window and the house was just silent. And I remember thinking, oh it was it was a dream. What a horrible, horrible nightmare. And then my bedroom door opened and my friend came in and she was just bawling and I that's when I knew that oh my word this really happened. And it just seemed so impossible. The Zach could be gone. because honestly, Zach was just bigger than life. He had such a light about him that there was just no way that anyone could have taken him from us.
19:52The funeral, I remember being in our church. Just the amount of people there was staggering. I mean, just there, it was standing room only. It was a beautiful tribute for Zach. Yvette was there and I remember she could barely walk. She got out of the hospital just long enough for the funeral and then she had to go back. But she was very weak and I remember just, just she felt so bad. She felt so guilty and here we are, we just looked at her and she was such a beautiful miracle for us. We were so grateful that she had survived.
20:31Walking out afterward behind his casket was painful. Was really when I just wanted to crawl up in a ball and hide from everybody and just not be the girl that lived. I didn't want to be that person right then. and I just wanted to hide and be Zach's friend.
21:10Our house was so full of people. And one day, all of a sudden, people quit coming. And it hit me so hard one day. He's really not coming home. And I found out through experience there is such a thing as a broken heart. You know, you hear of a broken heart, but it is a physical pain. I never realized that. It hurt me to breathe. And I would look around and see all these people getting on with their lives and I would think, how can they walk? How can they do what they're doing? And how can they laugh? And how can they be happy? Because for me life was basically over. I felt like it was over. Before the shooting, I would say I was a very trusting person.
22:01I was someone who really thought everyone else in this world was kind and generous and giving. And after the shooting, I was terrified of everyone. Didn't trust. I didn't want to socialize. Didn't want to leave my house. My mom made sure that someone was with me 24 hours a day in my room. I was so afraid that this man was going to come and finish the job.
22:42I remember one night just feeling so desperate for help. And I went and I just became so angry. All of a sudden, Benvenuto had the power to make me, who I've always been a happy person. I couldn't even smile. And I remember I went and I kicked a hole in my wall in my apartment because I was just so angry.
23:10I think I really hated Jorge Benvenuto when it was like a cancer spreading through my whole body. I wanted to hurt him. I wanted to hurt him like he had hurt Zach.
23:31Well, it was pretty obvious that the SNARS thought the appropriate sentence was the death penalty.
23:40And they made that very clear to us. Bob Stott came in our home, and I just looked at him, and I said, kill him.
23:51We understood that and we told them of course that that's what our goal was. Our object was to seek the most appropriate punishment. We certainly felt that the death penalty would be an appropriate punishment. We were going after that. I always knew I would have to testify at some point. And it scared me to get ready for it. but there's no way you can really prepare to be in the same room as the man who shot you.
24:44I will never ever forget that day in court. Just knowing I was going to see Jorge Benvenuto for the first time scared me to death.
25:02At the beginning of the case, we had a preliminary hearing, which is like a mini trial, and that's where I had to testify.
25:15The courtroom was packed. When they brought him into the courtroom, I just felt like he sucked the air right out of there. Kind of. It's like I'm looking at the person who murdered my son. He didn't look at us. And I was like, look at me. You know, look at me. This boy was a little bit of a lie. This boy had a mother, this boy had a family who loved him. And he just didn't even look at us. When I saw him in the courtroom I realized, he has no soul.
26:00And he stood there and pleaded not guilty.
26:09I don't remember actually walking to the stand, but I do remember sitting there and having to point him out and lifting my finger. And I remember watching my finger and it just shook while I'm pointing at him that this is the man who did it.
26:38She looked so afraid and she was trying so hard to be brave. I was amazed that she could get up there and look at him after what he had done to her, but she did it. She did it. I imagined a lot what Zach would have done. and he would have been so strong and so brave during it and so I just tried to be as strong as that could have been
27:17Afterwards, she just fell and she was just sobbing.
27:28I wanted him to get the death penalty. Like he didn't have the right to live.
27:42We were ready to go to trial. We were ready to ask for the death penalty. We had a good case. This is the kind of case that we would have won. But on the other hand, it's a very difficult process. We have to convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt. 12 jurors, even if one disagrees, the death penalty is not given. And there will be countless appeals, countless habeas corpuses. They'll have to appear at different hearings. They'll see it in the newspaper. They'll see it on television. Benvenuto said he shot them because he wanted to see what it felt like to watch them die. And it won't be over for another 20 to 25 years.
28:37Jorge did not want to die, so that is why Jorge Benvenuto decided to ask for a plea bargain. He would accept a sentence of life without possibility of parole if he was not given the death penalty in a trial. My family was very torn about it. Would it be giving up on Zach if we took this plea bargain? At the time, there was an execution going on in Texas. And I remember that the crime had happened 20 years before. But these protesters were protesting the fact that they were going to end his life, and that he had changed his life and that he was truly sorry. And I remember just thinking, I don't want that to happen to Zach.
29:31I don't want 20 years from now, protesters out there talking about what a great person Jorge Benvenuto is. I couldn't stomach the thought. And so that's why we as a family decided to take the plea bargain.
29:48I know a lot of people were really shocked the fact that we plea bargained. It was on talk radio, we had phone calls, the media, why would you do this? I said, I do not want my son's trial turned into a freak show. He deserves more dignity than that.
30:10Having him just spend the rest of his life in prison is fine with me. And I can just know he's there in prison forever.
30:28High drama in a Utah courtroom today as a killer is sent to prison for life without parole. George Benvenuto killed a teenage boy and injured his friend.
30:40It's like finally it was really over.
30:51When we walked out of the courtroom the day the man that shot us, the day he was sentenced, I was sure I was never going to see him again. I was never going to have to be in the same room as him again.
31:10And then the man that shot us filed an appeal that said he was depressed when he made that deal. And because he was depressed when he made that deal, he should get out of it. I remember thinking of all the people to claim you're depressed and you should get out of consequences, how dare you?
31:55The good thing about the appeal is I got to make a victim statement and I wanted Jorge Benvenuto to hear me. I wanted him to know what he had done to us and I turned right to him and looked at him and I said Jorge what was it like watching someone die and I just stopped and waited and he looked up at me for one brief second and then dropped his head again that is the only time he's looked at me and then I said was it worth it? I didn't get an answer surprise, surprise.
32:46It was like being kicked in the stomach so hard, it's just indescribable how that felt. I could not believe that he could do that to us again.
33:06I know the name of the man who shot me and who killed Zach, but I don't say it out loud. I refuse to give him that power or respect, and I've never said his name out loud, and I never will.
33:25I've had five operations total. It took about three years for me to officially be out of hospitals. The most painful part has actually been the nerve damage. To not have sensation on the right side of my body can be really painful sometimes. I would much rather have a surgery every other week than have to feel the survivor's guilt.
34:01I would go over to the cemetery and there would be the sweetest notes and little things on Zach's grave from Yvette and you could read her pain. That she felt so guilty for having survived. I didn't want to intrude. I didn't want to force her to be part of our lives. I thought maybe it was too painful for her, but I really wanted her in my life, and my whole family felt this bond towards her. Whenever I'm with her, I think, you were with my son, and he was happy that night with you.
34:46in the stands. Si is the most consistently loving person that I could ever ask for in my life. And she's a person that knows how I feel.
35:04I feel selfish about it, but I really value when she tells me that she's happy that I'm here.
35:16I don't deserve it, but I appreciate it a lot.
35:34I tried for so long to be that girl I was when I was 18. And it was actually my mom who finally one day said, you know, you're gonna just need to mourn the Yvette you were. She's gone. And you won't ever be her again. But you have the chance to be someone a lot different and a lot better. We hold those. Speaking of baseball, speaking of baseball. I went to college to be a news anchor. Are you still recording? And I thought that was going to be my happy ever after. Is that okay? But after the shooting and going through the court process, I realized that the law is where a lot of good can happen for people.
36:22And I decided to go to law school and am now able to help people in the law side of the criminal justice system. I work entirely with victims of crime. And while I don't tell my story with them, and they don't know what's happened to me, I do feel like I'm able to give them a sense of compassion that maybe other people can't, and that means the world to me.
36:55I'm 32 years old. I have a darling 7-year-old daughter. I was married at one point and my ex-husband and I tried really hard to have that work and and it didn't unfortunately but he is the father of my daughter and together I think we're raising a pretty good kid so I feel really lucky in my life.
37:26I miss Zach and I think about him all the time, like all the time. But I don't dwell on his death anymore. I dwell on his life. I have three children. My oldest is Zachary Taylor Davis. I wanted to name him after Zach. Sometimes it just brings tears to my eyes because, you know, not only is he named after him, but I think he looks a lot like him.
37:55Every time I look at the moon, I think of Zachary. He's the man in the moon to me, and I can never look at the full moon without thinking of that night that he saw the beauty in that full moon.
38:19It's been 14 years since I was with Zach last, and I think of him every single day. I can imagine his laugh.
38:37I would love to see him again and just run to him and hug him. And it's interesting, I think I'll, I want to say, wasn't that night so scary? And have him look at me and say, yeah, it was. And he would know what I was talking about.
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From the publisher
On the night of August 28, 1996, Yvette Rodier and Zach Snarr were on a date, taking pictures of the full moon in the mountains of Utah. They were interrupted when a stranger drove up, pulled a gun and opened fire. Zach was killed and Yvette was shot four times but survived by pretending to be dead. Years later, she faced her killer in court. This classic "48 Hours" episode last aired on 9/2/2011. Watch all-new episodes of “48 Hours” on Saturdays, and stream on demand on Paramount+.
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