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Episode Title
01/25/2026: Timothée Chalamet, Jamie Lee Curtis, Kate Winslet
Episode Overview This episode features in-depth interviews with three acclaimed actors: Timothée Chalamet, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Kate Winslet, exploring their careers, challenges, and recent works.
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Segment 1
Timothée Chalamet
Preparation for “A Complete Unknown”
- Role: Portrayed Bob Dylan, a complex and enigmatic figure.
- Duration of Preparation: More than five years due to industry delays (pandemic and strikes).
- Research Process:
- Initially lacked knowledge about Dylan.
- Engaged deeply with Dylan's music—learned to sing, play harmonica, and guitar.
- Pre-recorded over 40 Dylan songs to prepare for shooting.
Performance Insights
- Filming Technique:
- Initially planned to use playback for songs but opted for live singing to create a rawer, more authentic performance.
- Director James Mangold noted a significant improvement in performance quality when live singing was utilized.
- Character Immersion:
- Chalamet disconnected from his personal life during filming to fully embody Dylan's character.
- Expressed a deep respect for the role and aimed for authenticity.
Personal Connections
- Chalamet identified with Dylan’s early struggles and rise to fame.
- Cites a Dylan interview emphasizing the fragility of self-destiny, resonating with his own career journey.
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Segment 2
Jamie Lee Curtis
Career Reflections
- Recent Success: Curtis is enjoying a resurgence in her 60s, winning awards for her performances.
- Journey:
- Grew up in Hollywood as the daughter of actors Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh.
- Initially aspired to be a police officer but accidentally entered acting.
- Achieved fame with “Halloween” but faced challenges in the industry afterward.
Personal Challenges and Growth
- Discussed body image issues and early criticism leading to plastic surgery regrets.
- Emphasized her advocacy against societal beauty standards and her journey to sobriety.
- Expressed gratitude for roles that have allowed her to showcase vulnerability and complexity.
New Roles
- Played a mother in “The Bear,” indicating a shift to more grounded, relatable characters.
- Featured in “Everything Everywhere All at Once,” which pushed her boundaries as an actress.
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Segment 3
Kate Winslet
Career Highlights
- Notable Early Role: Gained fame with “Titanic,” which catapulted her career.
- Recent Work: Produced and starred in “Lee,” portraying war photographer Lee Miller.
Production Challenges
- Faced skepticism from potential investors about the film’s appeal.
- Advocated for female representation in filmmaking by hiring a female director and writers.
Character Preparation
- Engaged deeply in character backstory and physical representation, emphasizing a realistic portrayal.
- Known for her commitment to authenticity, including mastering the use of props like a replica camera for her role in “Lee.”
Personal Insights
- Discussed the pressure of public scrutiny, particularly regarding body image.
- Emphasized resilience and determination in her acting career, overcoming early criticisms.
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Key Takeaways
- Timothée Chalamet showcases the importance of preparation and authenticity in portraying complex characters in film, particularly in the biopic genre.
- Jamie Lee Curtis reflects the evolving opportunities for women in Hollywood and the significance of embracing imperfections and vulnerability.
- Kate Winslet advocates for strong female narratives in film, illustrating the challenges and triumphs of telling women's stories in a male-dominated industry.
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Conclusion The episode presents a rich tapestry of the personal and professional journeys of these three actors, highlighting their unique contributions to the film industry and the evolving landscape of Hollywood. Each segment offers a reflective look at the complexities of fame, performance, and identity.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTimothée Chalamet's Preparation for Bob Dylan Role
1:09 to 1:48
Explore Timothée Chalamet's unique approach to playing Bob Dylan in a movie.
“Timothy Chalamet pre-recorded all the Dylan songs he'd sing in the movie.”
Jamie Lee Curtis's Award-Winning Performances
1:48 to 2:24
Learn about Jamie Lee Curtis's recent award-winning roles and her acting journey.
“Jamie Lee Curtis is savoring a new wave of award-winning performances, playing a string of raw, volatile characters that suck the oxygen out of the room.”
Kate Winslet's Remarkable Down-to-Earth Persona
2:24 to 3:05
Discover Kate Winslet's authentic personality and her experiences in Hollywood.
“She's probably lying at the bottom of the Delaware River right now.”
Anderson Cooper Introduces the Night's Features
3:40 to 4:35
Anderson Cooper introduces the main features of the episode focusing on three actors.
“Find out what happens in Season 6 of Tell Me What Happened.”
Timothée Chalamet's Connection to Bob Dylan
4:35 to 5:30
Timothée Chalamet shares his insights and dedication to embodying Bob Dylan.
“he's one of the most enigmatic and reclusive musicians of our time.”
Researching Bob Dylan's Life
5:30 to 6:25
Chalamet discusses his extensive research into Bob Dylan's life and music.
“No, it sounds like you're a professional and you want it to be the best it can possibly be.”
The Process of Becoming Bob Dylan
6:25 to 7:35
Chalamet reveals his methods of transforming into Bob Dylan for the film.
“A complete unknown, he quickly became an icon in the world of folk music.”
Timothée Chalamet's Artistic Approach
7:35 to 8:35
Chalamet talks about his artistic process and commitment to roles.
“with whom he'd had a romantic relationship.”
Connection to Dylan's Early Life and Music
8:35 to 9:30
Exploration of Bob Dylan's early influences and the music scene of the 60s.
“and so well-known was, all right, where does my heart and where does my soul fit into this?”
Chalamet's Singing and Performance Insights
9:30 to 10:35
Chalamet shares insights on the live singing performance and its impact.
“sometimes smoking 30 packs of cigarettes.”
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The Impact of Chalamet's Transformation
10:35 to 11:30
How Chalamet's transformation into Dylan showcases his acting talent.
“What I see Timmy executing in the scene is the growth of confidence within the song.”
Chalamet's Childhood Influences
11:30 to 12:45
Discussion of Chalamet's upbringing and early influences in acting.
“If there's magic in acting, Timothee Chalamet doesn't want to give it all away.”
LaGuardia High School Experience
12:45 to 14:01
Chalamet shares his experience at LaGuardia High School and its impact.
“He lived in this rent-subsidized apartment complex in Manhattan full of artists.”
Timothée Chalamet's Early Life and Influences
14:01 to 15:03
Explore Timothée Chalamet's journey through high school and early acting career.
“I think my dad was more just like, be normal.”
The Impact of 'Call Me By Your Name'
15:04 to 15:39
Discover how 'Call Me By Your Name' transformed Chalamet's career.
“They're the only people in the world that did this talent show acting with me.”
Bob Dylan's Insights on Destiny
15:40 to 16:05
Chalamet reflects on Bob Dylan's perspective on destiny and self-confidence.
“He was 21 when it came out, around the same age Bob Dylan was when his career started to take off.”
Imagining a Meeting with Bob Dylan
16:06 to 17:02
Chalamet shares his thoughts on what he would say to Bob Dylan.
“The picture you have in your mind of what you're about will come true.”
Jamie Lee Curtis: Breaking Industry Norms
18:25 to 19:50
Jamie Lee Curtis discusses her unique approach to Hollywood and her career.
“plotting every outfit and career move with the prowess of a chess master.”
The Evolution of Jamie Lee Curtis' Career
19:51 to 22:24
Curtis recounts her journey from horror films to iconic roles.
“and they called me the next day and they gave me a seven-year contract at Universal and I quit college.”
Reflections on Beauty and Surgery
22:25 to 23:50
Curtis opens up about her experiences with beauty standards and surgery.
“Literally, I would stand there and he'd walk up.”
Addiction and Recovery
23:51 to 24:55
Curtis shares her journey of addiction and her path to sobriety.
“And I regretted it immediately and have kind of sort of regretted it since.”
Curtis's Transition to Spokesperson
25:11 to 25:31
Curtis discusses her decision to take on spokesperson roles for balance.
“Famously parodied by Saturday Night Live.”
Curtis's Family and Career Balance
25:32 to 27:40
Exploring the challenges and triumphs of being a working mother in Hollywood.
“You could have done anything you wanted to do.”
Curtis's Comeback Roles
27:41 to 28:00
Jamie Lee Curtis discusses her recent roles and the impact on her career.
“And four decades after the first Halloween, she finally put that franchise to rest.”
Jamie Lee Curtis: Embracing Her Role
28:00 to 28:59
Explore Jamie Lee Curtis's transformative role in 'Everything Everywhere All At Once'.
“that led to a comeback even she never imagined.”
Curtis's Oscar Experience and Family Legacy
28:59 to 31:29
Delve into Jamie Lee Curtis's emotional journey before and after her Oscar win.
“It's just so beautifully written that you don't have to do anything.”
Kate Winslet: From Titanic to Lee
32:10 to 34:37
Discover Kate Winslet's evolution from a young actress to a powerful producer.
“Kate Winslet was just 20 years old when she was plucked from relative obscurity to star in Titanic.”
Winslet's Preparation for Roles
34:37 to 36:40
Understand the depth of preparation Kate Winslet undertakes for her roles.
“not on her history as a model who had many lovers.”
Accents and Challenges in Acting
36:40 to 37:57
Learn about the challenges Kate Winslet faced with accents in her roles.
“She spends months, even years, preparing for roles, inventing an elaborate backstory for every character down to what sport they played in school and how they feel about their mothers.”
Winslet's Rise and Early Challenges
37:57 to 39:56
Explore Kate Winslet's rise to fame and the early challenges she faced.
“for her portrayal of a Nazi prison guard in The Reader.”
Titanic's Impact and Media Scrutiny
39:56 to 42:01
Discuss the impact of Titanic on Winslet's life and the media's harsh criticism.
“And then the owner was like, hey, phone for you.”
Kate Winslet Reflects on Stardom and Body Image
42:01 to 44:48
Kate Winslet discusses the challenges of fame and body image in Hollywood.
“While Titanic made Winslet a star, she says it came at a cost.”
Winslet's Film Success Amidst Challenges
44:49 to 45:17
Winslet shares her thoughts on the challenges of making films about historical women and celebrates her film's financial success.
“It's hard to make films about historical female figures.”
Transcript
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1:16Timothy Chalamet pre-recorded all the Dylan songs he'd sing in the movie. They were supposed to be played back on set during filming. It always sounded too clean. The recording equipment's too clean now. The guitars are too good. Bob Dylan was drinking two bottles of red wine a day, sometimes smoking 30 packs of cigarettes. Did you drink two bottles of wine and smoke 30 packs of alcohol? The smoking I did, the wine I held back on more.
1:42Four decades after she cemented her place in Hollywood with the horror movie Halloween, Jamie Lee Curtis is savoring a new wave of award-winning performances, playing a string of raw, volatile characters that suck the oxygen out of the room. Donna, the images in my mind of her buttering the bread with the nails and the eyelash on the cheek. The eyelash. That single eyelash, I think, won me an Emmy. I swear to God. Go. Go sit. When we met Kate Winslet outside London... Okay, we're getting some of that. We found the actress to be remarkably un-Hollywood. Thank you. And capable of sounding remarkably, well, un-British.
2:27She's probably lying at the bottom of the Delaware River right now. And why is a filly so hard? It's actually the I sound in the Philadelphia and the Delco dialect that is really difficult. They don't say, that's nice. They say, that's nice. I like your bike.
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3:50Good evening, I'm Anderson Cooper. Welcome to 60 Minutes Presents. Tonight, a night at the movies, featuring three acclaimed actors, each at a different point in their career. We'll spend some time with Jamie Lee Curtis, who's been making movies for more than four decades and has recently enjoyed a wave of award-winning performances. Then we'll travel to England to meet with Kate Winslet, who starred in and produced Lee, a movie about a photographer on the front lines during World War II. But we begin with Timothee Chalamet, who earned his third Oscar nomination this past week, this one for his role in the film Marty Supreme.
4:27But it was his portrayal of Bob Dylan in a complete unknown that caught our attention last February. Bob Dylan is not just a singing and songwriting legend, he's one of the most enigmatic and reclusive musicians of our time. Playing him in a movie based on his life would be a daunting task for any actor. But when Timothee Chalamet was offered the role, he was 23. It says he knew practically nothing about Dylan. A lot of people told him not to do it, but Chalamet likes a creative challenge. He says he's never met Bob Dylan, but because of the pandemic, strikes in Hollywood and other film commitments, Chalamet ended up having about five years to study the man and his music, determined like Bob Dylan was at his age to make it great.
5:14I give a hundred seventy percent in everything I'm doing. No but there. I'm giving it my all. Something like the Dylan Project, these aren't watered down experiences. I'm going Daniel Day-Lewis on all of them. I'm not saying in process, but I'm saying a level of commitment. And I don't know man, it sounds like I'm desperate saying that or something. No, it sounds like you're a professional and you want it to be the best it can possibly be. Yeah, and increasingly, I don't want to shy away from saying that. I stumble on the side of 12 misty mountains Chalamet, who's 30 now, didn't just need to figure out how to sing like Dylan.
5:49He also learned how to play harmonica and guitar and about 40 Bob Dylan songs, far more than were originally called for in the script. It's a heart rate The pain are gonna fall. Thank you. The movie, set in the early 1960s, follows Bob Dylan's rapid rise from obscurity to stardom, something Timothee Chalamet could relate to. I was young when I left home. And I've been out of rambling around. Dylan was 19 when he arrived in New York from Minnesota. A complete unknown, he quickly became an icon in the world of folk music. How many roads must a man walk down Before you call him a man? Poetic and political, his song spoke to the times and a young generation demanding change.
6:47And the first one now will be to be last For the times they are a-changer Dylan got his start in New York at a nightclub called Café Wa in Greenwich Village. This was one of his, you know, jump points. This was like really a place where you could just go play folk music in the 60s, early 60s. And I went during the movie, during the production, and it ain't the same. What were they playing? Now it's Aerosmith covers and the ACDC and also worthy. Art, but different. Very different. When Chalamet started researching Dylan, he did what many millennials likely would. He looked him up on YouTube. He found this clip particularly insightful, Dylan performing on stage with Joan Baez, with whom he'd had a romantic relationship.
7:37But it ain't me, babe. No, no, no. It ain't me, babe. What I love about the It Ain't Me performance is how playful it is and what a laugh he's having. He was the one, at least in the footnotes of history, that wasn't particularly, let's say, faithful with Joan. So I get it from his perspective that he's having such a laugh. On YouTube now, you can play things at 0.5 speed or 0.75 speed. And that was when I really slowed down, because it's fascinating the way Bob observes her and how he refuses eye contact in that video. This is Chalamet's version, with Monica Barbaro playing Joan Baez. It ain't me, baby.
8:22No, no, no. It ain't me, babe. It ain't me you're looking for, baby. You weren't trying to imitate Bob Dylan. No, totally. That was the tension for me in doing a biopic on somebody so beloved and so well-known was, all right, where does my heart and where does my soul fit into this? Can it fit into this? Particularly with someone who is so masked. I put myself in another place. but I'm a stranger there. To connect with what might be behind Dylan's mask, Chalamet disconnected from his own life for the two and a half months of filming.
9:00Wouldn't use his cell phone or have visitors on set. I've never approached a character so intensely as Bob because I had such respect for the material and I knew I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I remember that I was lazy on a day where something went wrong.
9:16Chalamet pre-recorded all the Dylan songs he'd sing in the movie. They were supposed to be played back on set during filming. It always sounded too clean. The recording equipment's too clean now. The guitars are too good. Bob Dylan was drinking two bottles of red wine in a day, sometimes smoking 30 packs of cigarettes. Did you drink two bottles of wine and smoke 30 packs of that? The smoking I did, the wine I held back on more. So Chalamet decided he wanted to try and sing and play live instead. This scene was the first time he did it. Dillon's just arrived in New York and visits his terminally ill hero, folk music legend Woody Guthrie, played by Scoot McNary.
9:55Edward Norton is Pete Seeger. On his first take, director James Mangold knew Chalamet nailed it. Hey, hey, Woody Guthrie, I wrote you a song. There's a moment in that scene, right at the last stanza, where he holds a note. Here's to the hearts in the hands of the men. It comes.
10:22That would never have happened if we used the playback track. Was that in the song originally? No. Because, I mean, there was... No.
10:33The dust and her gun with the wind. He just did it. What I see Timmy executing in the scene is the growth of confidence within the song. So by the end of the song, not only is he finishing it, looking right at Woody, but he's also holding it, which is like what a grand diva would do in the spotlight. You can't tell someone to do that. I'm not even sure Timmy completely plans it intellectually. That is that kind of talent. Did you know you were going to do that? Was that a planned thing? No, and it would be disingenuous to my, you know, the way I like to act or my approach to stuff. You don't have any clue why you did it?
11:17No, it just happened, yeah, truly.
11:24That may be true, or it may not. Like Dylan, Chalamet is reluctant to talk about how he does what he does. If there's magic in acting, Timothee Chalamet doesn't want to give it all away. What's the concern about revealing the magic? It's nobody's business how I go about these things. It's within the law. It's within the law. Yeah, and otherwise it might not be as interesting as people think. Or it could be a lot more interesting than people think. It might be more interesting than what I'm doing. She's our friend. I'm her friend. What Chalamet's done in nearly two dozen films has been plenty interesting.
11:59In the Dune series, he transformed himself from the privileged son of a duke into a menacing messiah. I am Paul Moadiv Adreides, Duke of Arrakis! It's no use, Joe. Joe, we've got to have it out. No, hey. I have loved you ever since I've known you, Joe. He's played Laurie in Little Women and a lovestruck teenager in Call Me By Your Name. Ah, where'd you learn to do that? I got nothing to offer but my chocolate. He took a risk reinventing Willy Wonka. This is your home. A world of your own. And his shape shifted between an adult drug addict and a reluctant King Henry V. So you basically grew up in the theater district?
12:43Yes, this is... As a child, Chalamet didn't dream of becoming an actor, though he was surrounded by them. He lived in this rent-subsidized apartment complex in Manhattan full of artists. Oh, Izzy! How you doing, man? What are you doing here? What's going on, man? Doing a little interview, baby. Good to see you. Growing up in this building certainly seems to have made an impression. This building truthfully made me scared of acting because it's a tough lifestyle and a lot of people, you know, aren't doing fantastically. You would think growing up here, like, it would encourage you to be an actor, but it actually...
13:17No, it actually terrified me of becoming an actor. His mom, Nicole Flender, was a dancer and works with the Actors' Equity Association. His sister, Pauline Chalamet, is an actress, and Timmy, as his friends and family call him, booked occasional acting jobs as a child. though he told us he really wanted to be a professional soccer player. This is him on Law & Order when he was 12. Could you please not tell Mom and Dad about us playing Hexbox? But his father, Marc Chalamet, a French journalist, wasn't exactly pushing him to act. My dad, I think he very, very, very correctly, rightfully was wary growing up.
13:52It's no place for a child. It really isn't. You know, cameras and people going, hey, do the thing where we recognize you as cute in your own head. I think my dad was more just like, be normal. These days, that's easier said than done. I appreciate it, man. When we went to get a slice of pizza, he told us a turning point in his life was getting into LaGuardia High School, a famously competitive public school for the performing arts. It's a school that champions the arts. So there I doubled down. I was not a distracted kid as a teenager, like maybe to a fault. You know, I wasn't like partying or, I don't say that to come off straight lace, like to a fault.
14:30I was like very focused and driven. He was cast as the lead in school musicals. I'm the bravest individual I have ever met. And developed routines for LaGuardia's talent show as a rapper named Lil Timmy Tim.
14:53It's humiliating, but I'll show you guys. He took us to the practice room in his building's basement where he'd rehearse. How old were you there? Here I'm 15, but I look like I'm 7. These are two good friends of mine, Sheree and Desiree. They're the only people in the world that did this talent show acting with me. I probably asked 35 people. He did go to college, Columbia University for a year, and then some classes at New York University. But he dropped out, wanting to focus on acting full time. Listen, man, I was struggling. I was struggling. I was struggling with identity, and I was struggling with your sense of self-respect, your sense of drive or where you want to be pales in comparison to where you are.
15:39Call Me By Your Name changed everything. He was 21 when it came out, around the same age Bob Dylan was when his career started to take off. Chalamet became the youngest person nominated for an Academy Award for Best Actor in nearly 80 years. We thought he'd relate to something Bob Dylan said about the meaning of destiny to Ed Bradley in a rare interview on 60 Minutes more than 20 years ago. It's a feeling you have that you know something about yourself nobody else does. The picture you have in your mind of what you're about will come true. That's kind of a thing you kind of have to keep to your own self because it's a fragile feeling and you put it out there and somebody will kill it.
16:23So it's best to keep that all inside. Man, wow. You watch this interview a lot. Yeah, probably a thousand times, yeah. I always loved what he said about self-destiny being fragile. You believe that too, that if... I believe that especially early on in life, in your career, when you're in your early 20s or late teens. And if you can find a way to keep it quiet, but also have a lot of confidence, it's the best path, you know? It's interesting to me that you still haven't met Bob Dylan. Nope. No. Is that weird to you? I mean, it's not, you know. He doesn't seem like he wants to be bothered by, not me, but by everyone in the last 60, 70 years.
17:00What would you say to him? I would say thank you. I would just say thank you. You know what, that's ****. I'm gonna take that back. I wouldn't. Honestly, I would honestly just be like, I would play it super cool, you know. I feel like he's probably used to so much hyperbole and praise. Maybe I would try to out - Out-cool him? Out-bob him. Not cool, but out-bob him. Out-bob him. Yeah. Just like, strangely not bring anything up around him. Not even mention that you did the movie. Yeah. Maybe just talk about like... The weather. The weather and, you know, what his favorite sandwich is or something like that.
17:33Yeah.
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18:52We asked her about her decades-long career. She told us it was anything but planned. My life hinged on a couple seconds I never saw coming. I never thought I'd be an actor in my life. My teeth were the color of concrete. They were gray. I was cute but not pretty. And so I never saw that coming. She probably should have. Jamie Lee Curtis was born into Hollywood royalty, the daughter of screen idols Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh, two of the biggest stars during the golden age of cinema. But Jamie Lee says she wanted to be a cop. She was home from college when a friend convinced her to audition for Universal Studios.
19:34I did the scene and she said that was very good or whatever. and I was like, okay, great, thanks. I said, listen, if this is going to work out, I need to know because I'm going back to college in like two days. Very practical. So like she laughed or whatever and they called me the next day and they gave me a seven-year contract at Universal and I quit college. Almost immediately, she booked the 1978 horror film Halloween. While I'm here tonight, I'm not about to let anything happen to you. Curtis was cast as the bookish babysitter, Laurie Strode, terrorized by an unrelenting killer. It was her first movie.
20:15She was 19 years old playing the lead. Were people saying, oh, she got the job because of who her parents are, because of the pedigree? I know. I guarantee you the fact that my mother was in Psycho was a determining factor that maybe that will get them a little extra publicity. Now, did it get me to that final two? No. My auditions got me to the final two. This was a$300 ,000 horror movie. This was not a job that a lot of people wanted. Halloween ended up grossing more than$70 million and became a cult classic. But it didn't exactly launch Jamie Lee Curtis's career. My big break after Halloween was I was on Love Boat with Janet Leigh.
21:03Beautiful Janet Leigh playing my mother. And then I was in a Charlie's Angels episode where I am Cheryl Ladd's best friend, pro golfer. So those are the two jobs I get post-Halloween. Were you thinking at this point, like, people aren't hiring me, they just want my mom around or the name? You know what? Sure. But didn't that bother you? No! Because, because I was doing my thing. Curtis's thing was transforming into a scream queen for a new generation with a string of horror movies. I read that you didn't even like scary movies. I don't like scary movies. Still? Still. Oh, please. Awful. Why? Awful.
21:50The smart aleck answer is because life is scary. It's a surprising thing to hear from an actress who's known for being fearless. Before that spin around the bedpost opposite Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies, Curtis held her own next to Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd in her first comedy feature, Trading Places, directed by John Landis. She says her role as Ophelia, a wise, kind-hearted streetwalker, is what really launched her career. That part, I mean, she's gritty, and the gum and the whole thing. How much of that did you bring her? John stuck gum in my mouth every day. Literally, I would stand there and he'd walk up.
22:34I'd go, okay. I mean, it's, you know, just a great part. But here's the other thing, and this is crucial, and this will make the peace. If I'm not in Trading Places, John Cleese does not write A Fish Called Wanda for me. I'll treasure it. If I'm not in A Fish Called Wanda, Jim Cameron does not write the part in True Lies for me. And that groping of films gave me my career, for sure. If it all sounds like a fairy tale, it wasn't. By the mid-80s, Jamie Lee Curtis was a well-established actor when she made a movie with John Travolta called Perfect. By all accounts and from every angle, she was. I took it very seriously as an actor, and of course, I look really good in a leotard.
23:22And believe me, I've seen enough pictures of me in that leotard where even I go like, really? Come on! But she says a cinematographer working on the film criticized the way she looked. I was like, yeah, I'm not shooting her today. Her eyes are baggy. And I was 25. So for him to say that was very embarrassing. So as soon as the movie finished, I ended up having some plastic surgery. How did that go? Not well. That's just not what you want to do when you're 25 or 26. And I regretted it immediately and have kind of sort of regretted it since. Even now? Way so now, because I've become a really public advocate to say to women, you're gorgeous and you're perfect the way you are.
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24:11So, oh, yeah, it was not a good thing for me to do. That's when you started taking it public about this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Painkillers. Well, they give them to you. I became very enamored with the warm bath of an opiate. You know, drank a little bit. Never to excess, never any big public demonstrations. I was very quiet, very private about it. But it became a dependency for sure. Curtis says she's been sober for 26 years. Did you worry when you shared your story of how you got sober that it would impact your career? I think I worried more that selling yogurt that makes you s*** was going to impact my career than for me to acknowledge that I had an addiction.
25:04I make the joke. It's a funny joke, but it's true. Take the Activia challenge now. It works or it's free. Ah, that yogurt commercial. Famously parodied by Saturday Night Live. Now the good news. I just discovered... Curtis, one of the biggest stars in Hollywood, suddenly began selling pantyhose and hawking rental cars. Hertz came out on top. True Lies had made$400 million. You could have done anything you wanted to do. But you were taking those spokesperson jobs. Why? For the most part, because they allowed me to stay home with my kids. So I am an imperfect, you know, working mom, because no working moms are perfect.
25:53It's all scotch tape together. I'm looking at one. You're speaking to one. We make it look good. We think we've done it. But the truth is, we feel badly. But I know how much time away from them I spent in pursuit of my own creativity. Curtis has two children with Christopher Guest, the actor and director best known for This Is Spinal Tap. It's famous for its sustain. I mean, you can just hold it. And taking aim at dog shows and even filmmaking in a series of documentaries. They've been married for more than 40 years. My mother was married four times. My father was married five times. That's nine.
26:40My stepfather was married three. So I come from an immediate family of 12 marriages.
26:49So my joke, I'm still married to my first husband. You know, it was important to me that I stay married to my husband, that he's my husband. Did you ever pass a role that you wish you had taken? No. Once their kids were grown, Curtis traded in carpool duty for unapologetically driving her own career. We're going this way. She runs her own production company, which has a TV series in the works starring Nicole Kidman and a feature film about the catastrophic Paradise Wildfires in 2018. She's also running her own charity. Curtis has raised over a million dollars for Children's Hospital Los Angeles and donated another million to victims of the recent wildfires, which destroyed much of Altadena and the Pacific Palisades, including this home, where she filmed the millennial hit Freaky Friday and its sequel Freakier Friday.
27:48And four decades after the first Halloween, she finally put that franchise to rest. But it is a string of raw, vulnerable characters that came to Curtis in her 60s that led to a comeback even she never imagined. You know, I mean, he's cute-ish. Playing the aging waitress in The Last Showgirl. I could also get you a job. Or sucking the oxygen out of the kitchen as the combustible matriarch Donna Brissato in Hulu's TV series, The Bear. Donna, the images in my mind of her buttering the bread with the nails and the eyelash on the cheek. The eyelash. That single eyelash, I think, won me an Emmy. I swear to God.
28:34Go, I'm good. Go. Go sit. I've waited my whole life for Donna. Patiently, quietly cooking. My own creative, mental life. My own, you know, my own alcoholism.
28:59It's just so beautifully written that you don't have to do anything. But it was 2022's mystical, somewhat mind-bending, everything, everywhere, all at once, that pushed Jamie Lee Curtis out of her comfort zone. Did you understand that role when you got it? Not one second of it. Did I understand that script? No. With nothing but a stack of receipts, I can trace the ups and downs. Curtis says she did understand Deirdre Bobirdre, the hard-boiled bureaucrat from hell. It does not look good. We all know Deirdre. She's a woman who's not loved. She's a woman who uses her power in her job to control people because she has no love in her life.
29:48Curtis was unrecognizable, but her performance did not go unnoticed. Jamie Lee Curtis! Before the moment, though, first, when they call your name. Yes. You say, I think, shut up. Totally. Because that wasn't supposed to happen. Your mom never won an Oscar. Dad never won an Oscar. No, they didn't. They were both nominated. Does this make you feel like you're on even footing with your parents, who were these gigantic stars? I think about surpassing my parents, which I have, emotionally. I've surpassed my parents with sobriety. My mother was restricted by what the industry wanted from her and expected from her and would allow from her.
30:43My mother would have hated The Last Showgirl because I showed what I really looked like. And so I have, I don't want to say surpassed them, but I have freedom. The morning after her Oscar win, a photographer asked Curtis to recreate a photo of actress Faye Dunaway and her statue from nearly 50 years ago. She agreed with one condition. And I said to him, Yeah, but I won't do it seriously. We have to make it funny. Jamie Lee Curtis hasn't just embraced imperfection. She's made it an art.
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32:12Kate Winslet was just 20 years old when she was plucked from relative obscurity to star in Titanic. She's had her pick of lead roles ever since. Film critics we spoke to compare her to greats like Katharine Hepburn and Meryl Streep. Winslet has a propensity for playing tough, angst-ridden women. That's exactly who she became in the film Lee, which she also produced, about American photographer Lee Miller, one of the few female journalists on the front lines of World War II. Cecilia Vega met Winslet back in 2024 at the theater where she performed as a teenager and found her to be remarkably un-Hollywood.
32:50She drove herself to the interview, showed up alone, and dropped a few F-bombs. Well, the idea of going back on this stage still terrifies me. So how do you get over the nerves? What do you tell yourself? Oh, honestly, it's a whole bunch of mind f***ing. I mean, it is even to this day. Like anything, going for a job interview, it's absolutely terrifying if it's a job you really want. Doubly terrifying. You've said on the first day you walk in and think... Everyone is in here thinking, why did they cast her? Yeah, that... Oh, my God. You are an Oscar-winning actress. So what? When I was doing Lee, I would sit there and I would say, this is ridiculous.
33:32I can truly think of at least five other brilliant actresses who would have played this part much better than me. Like, a lot better. And often I will turn to another crew member and I'll say, they just read the wrong name off the list. I'm telling you, they didn't mean for me to be here. And I will have days where - Meryl's coming out of the back door now to take your role. Welcome, come on in. Delighted to have you. You must be Lee Miller. Well, it's a war zone, Colonel. Just Lee is fine. That role that caused Kate Winslet so much angst was for the movie Lee. She didn't just star in it, she made it, her first as a producer.
34:15How much time did you spend at this house? Oh my God, I mean, a lot of time across seven years, yeah. Those years were spent at Lee Miller's estate in the English countryside, where she lived with her husband, a British painter. It's where, with the help of Miller's son, Winslet scoured the archives and decided to focus Miller's life story not on her history as a model who had many lovers. We don't hire older models. Don't blow a gasket. I'm not a model anymore. But as a troubled woman, who in her late 30s left her glamorous life to become a war photographer, capturing some of the most haunting images from World War II, including some of the first uses of napalm and Nazi concentration camps.
35:02Winslet says she knew it wouldn't be an easy sell. Tell me a little bit about what some of those phone calls were like. There was one potential investor who said to me, why should I like this woman? I mean, she's drunk. She's, you know, she's, like, loud. She's, like, I mean, he just probably stopped short of saying, she has wrinkles on her face. You had a director say something like, I'll get your little Lee funded. You want to share names now? No, never, never, no. That's not my vibe. No, but so this director did say, yeah, tell you what, if you be in my film, I'll help you get your little Lee Miller film made.
35:39And he actually went like that. And I was like, might just have lost signal. She didn't make the movie with those men. Instead, she insisted on bringing in a female director, co-producer and writers.
35:58Winslet was intimately involved in every step of production, as we saw during a scoring session.
36:10Kate? Yeah. It doesn't feel too loud to you, does it? Well, it's funny. Okay, it's too loud. Let's do it again. She also enlisted a historian to make an exact replica of Miller's camera and really took pictures while she was acting. Why did you feel like you had to learn this craft? It couldn't just be a prop. It needed to feel like an extension of my arms. I had to be confident and comfortable with it. And in order to do that, I had to know what I was doing. She spends months, even years, preparing for roles, inventing an elaborate backstory for every character down to what sport they played in school and how they feel about their mothers.
36:52You know me. I'm impulsive. She's learned to dig for fossils, make dresses, and free dive, holding her breath for more than seven minutes for Avatar 2. And she's not afraid of being exposed. All right. Make me invisible. Because to see a Kate Winslet movie often means you'll see a lot of Kate Winslet. Let's see what happens. And then there's the accents. Yeah, near she in, down at Easttown. She won an Emmy for mayor of Easttown, playing a vaping, beer-swigging detective, nailing the specific sound of Delaware County, a Philadelphia suburb. She's probably lying at the bottom of the Delaware River right now.
37:38And why is the Philly so hard? It's actually the I sound in the Philadelphia, and the Delco dialect that is really difficult. They don't say, that's nice. They say, that's nice. I like your bike. And though she may seem like someone with a shelf full of Oscars, she won her first and only in 2009 for her portrayal of a Nazi prison guard in The Reader. I want to take out a book. For years, she kept the statue in her bathroom so guests could hold it up in the mirror and pretend to win. I used to get the bus into town a lot. We went with Winslet to Reading, the working-class town just outside London where she was born and raised.
38:22This is the house? Oh, my God, this is the house. The front door boarded up. Her family no longer lives here. I lived here until when I was sort of 16, and I kind of left home, really, when I was 16. Winslet is the second of four children. Her father was a struggling actor who often gave his daughter the advice she still lives by. You're only as good as your last gig. He would sort of hop from job to job and then he would do, you know, part-time work to make ends meet in the meantime. But the thing that was interesting, I think, is that even though there was so little, as you can see, to go around, we were really happy.
39:01With financial help from a charity for actors, she enrolled in a local theatre school when she was 11, catching the train into London for auditions. She says the scrutiny of her appearance started young. You once had a drama teacher tell you, settle for the fat girl parts? Oh, yeah. Now listen, Kate, I'm telling you, darling. If you're going to look like this, you'll have to settle for the fat girl parts. And I was never even fat. What did that do to your spirit, your confidence? It made me think, I'll just show you. Just quietly. It was like a sort of a quiet determination, really. Yeah, I'll just go in.
39:42This grocery store was once the deli where 16-year-old Winslet was working when she got the news that she'd landed her first movie. And I was making a sandwich, and the phone rang, and I swear to God, there was something about the way the phone rang. You knew? I was like, oh my God, that's for me. I wonder if it's about the job. And then the owner was like, hey, phone for you. I thought, oh my God. So I ran and was told that I'd gotten this part. And then I was just so unraveled, I had to leave. I was like, I have to go home and tell Mom and Dad. After filming that first movie, Heavenly Creatures, Winslet went right back to making sandwiches.
40:20That must have been kind of a, what is going on in my world here? No, because that was what I knew. You know, my dad would do jobs and he'd go back to, you know, tarmacking the roads or working as a postman. So I just thought, oh, well, that's what you do as an actor. You know, if you're lucky, you get a job, and then you go back to a day job. At 20, she got the offer for the part that would make Hollywood history. Playing Rose opposite Leonardo DiCaprio as Jack in Titanic, the first film to break a billion dollars at the box office. Winslet was game to discuss just about anything, but... Let's talk about Titanic.
41:00Really. I was wondering what your reaction would be if I said that to you. No, I'm happy to talk about Titanic. I guess it wouldn't be an interview with you if we didn't talk about Titanic in some way. It could be an interview without it. We tried to ask about the famous scene that has sparked decades of debates. I'll never let go. I promise. May I ask, true Leo really could have fit on the raft? Do you know what? I have no idea. Does it annoy you at all that 27 years later this movie still comes up in this way and probably will for the rest of your life? No. I tell you, what I do sometimes find just curious, I suppose, is whatever I say about Titanic will often be the take-home.
41:50So I just think, oh, well, there were those things that I said about the film I was talking about, and yet that's the one thing. So that's the only thing that sometimes I just think, Mm-mm. Where to, miss? To the stars. While Titanic made Winslet a star, she says it came at a cost. Paparazzi aggressively pursued her and just listened to how she was ridiculed for her weight. It came a little melted and poured into that dress. And, you know, she just needed two sizes large and it would probably have been okay. I gasped at how cruel some of that coverage was of you at that time. I know. It's absolutely appalling.
42:33What kind of a person must they be to do something like that to a young actress who's just trying to figure it out? Did you ever get face-to-face with any of those people? I did get face-to-face. What did you say? I let them have it. I said, I hope this haunts you.
43:01It was a great moment.
43:08It was a great moment because it wasn't just for me. It was for all those people who were subjected to that level of harassment. It was horrific. It was really bad. Now 49, Winslet says she developed an armor that she brings to characters like Lee Miller. People say, oh, you were so brave for this role. You didn't wear any makeup. You know, you had wrinkles. Do we say to the men, oh, you were so brave for this role. You grew a beard. No, we don't. Does that still happen to you? Yes, it happens to me all the time. It's not brave. It's playing the part. Is it true that a crew member came up to you and said, you might want to kind of sit up a little bit.
43:54You're showing a lump. Yeah. You might want to kind of just sit in, suck in, sit up. And I was like... You didn't. I don't think Lee would have done. It's about knowing that Lee's ease with her physical self was hard won. In Hollywood, you could have a lot of great lights, so that you don't see the lump that we all have, the bumps that we all have. You don't care about showing that. No, I don't. I don't. Why not? It's exhausting. When she's not filming, Winslet lives far from the spotlight in a quiet English seaside village. She and her husband, Ned Abel Smith, have a 10-year-old son. She also has a 20-year-old son and 24-year-old daughter from previous marriages.
44:42Winslet is not on social media and told us she doesn't read reviews of her work. But this much she knows. It's hard to make films about historical female figures. You know, typically those aren't films that would necessarily do well in the box office. Says she, sitting here proudly telling you that her film has taken over 25 million so far. Cha-ching! And we made a film about one woman. So there's not a sense of, I told you so? No, I don't feel like that, but I just hope they've seen the film.
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Last January, correspondent Anderson Cooper spent a couple of days with Timothée Chalamet to find out how he prepared for more than five years to play one of the most enigmatic and revered musicians of our time for his film “A Complete Unknown”, which earned him an Oscar nomination for best actor.
Correspondent Sharyn Alfonsi talks with Jamie Lee Curtis in Los Angeles about her long career in Tinseltown and about her recent wave of award-winning performances that came to her in her 60s.
Correspondent Cecilia Vega travels to the U.K. for an intimate portrait of actor Kate Winslet.
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