04/05/2026: Return to Ram, Ghost Train, The Mardi Gras Indians

6 Apr 2026 · 43 min · 18 chapters

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In short

A 60 Minutes episode mixing three reported stories: (1) a return visit to Remote Area Medical (RAM) pop-up clinics in Knoxville, Tennessee, showing how uninsured Americans get free dental/vision care; (2) California’s high-speed rail “ghost train” problem and a comparison with private rail efforts like Brightline West; (3) Mardi Gras Indians/Black Masking Indians in New Orleans, focusing on hand-sewn suits, mock battles, and cultural preservation.

Guest backgrounds

No regular podcast guests are interviewed; the episode features on-camera subjects and officials. RAM: Sandra Talent (car sleeper for dental), Dave Bird (dentures after accidents), Brad Sands (RAM coordinator), Chris Hall (RAM CEO/volunteer since age 12), Glenn Goldstein (dentist volunteer), Stan Brock (RAM founder, described). High-speed rail: Congressman Vince Fong; Toks Amashakhin (CA Transportation Sec.); Anthony Williams (Rail Authority board member); Lou Thompson (Amtrak founder, peer review group). Mardi Gras Indians: Big Chief DeMond Malone; Howard Miller (Mardi Gras Indian Council president); Big Chief Monk Joseph Pierre Boudreau.

Key claims

RAM fills lines of up to ~1,200 patients with no insurance required; most requests are dental (about 65%). California’s project suffered right-of-way, environmental, cost, and funding failures; Brightline West claims safer, faster service (about 200 mph) starting 2029. Mardi Gras Indians are a long-running secret society tradition with suits built over a year.

Notable examples

3D-printed dentures in an overnight printer setup; “mirror moment” where patients cry; unfinished high-speed rail structures near Fresno; DeMond’s Amistad-themed suit; Monk preparing for his 72nd masking year despite cancer.

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Chapters

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Struggles of Accessing Healthcare

0:48 to 1:57

Explore the challenges Americans face in accessing healthcare.

“Hey parents, we all know summer break is for fun, but it's also a time when kids can start losing some of the progress they made during the school year.”

Struggles of Accessing Healthcare

2:12 to 3:08

Explore the challenges Americans face in accessing healthcare.

“People sleep in their cars for a chance at medical care.”

Mardi Gras Indians: A Cultural Tradition

3:16 to 4:00

Learn about the vibrant tradition of Mardi Gras Indians in New Orleans.

“Every year on Mardi Gras Day, an extraordinary sight emerges from the back streets of New Orleans.”

Desperation for Dental Care

4:08 to 8:06

Hear stories of individuals seeking dental care at a free clinic.

“especially when I'm looking for trendy, high-quality pieces that won't break the bank.”

The Impact of Remote Area Medical

8:13 to 13:00

Discover how RAM provides vital healthcare services to those in need.

“A few spaces over, Dave Bird spent the night in his truck, aching for a full set of dentures.”

Remembering Stan Brock

13:03 to 14:01

Reflect on the legacy of RAM's founder, Stan Brock.

“I remember there was a guy many years ago who had a broken tooth.”

Ram's Mission and Stan Brock's Legacy

14:01 to 16:46

Learn about Ram's founder Stan Brock and the mission to relieve pain through medical charity.

“Patients ask you to take all of their teeth out?”

Transformative Moments for Patients

16:46 to 18:38

Explore the emotional impact of dental care provided by Ram on patients' lives.

“And Dave Burge, who lost his teeth in two accidents.”

Transformative Moments for Patients

19:40 to 21:38

Explore the emotional impact of dental care provided by Ram on patients' lives.

“Finding the right furniture for my home can be hard, especially when I'm looking for trendy, high-quality pieces that won't break the bank.”

The Struggles of High-Speed Rail in America

21:46 to 28:00

Understand the challenges and mismanagement of California's high-speed rail project.

“or the romance of train travel, those iron horses galloping down tracks of steel.”
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The Evolution of U.S. Rail Systems

28:00 to 30:04

Explore the historical development of rail systems in the U.S. and their future.

“government oversaw the birth of the Transcontinental Railroad, stitching the country together as it expanded westward.”

Brightline's Ambitious Plans for High-Speed Rail

30:04 to 31:26

Learn about Brightline's plans for high-speed rail and the challenges it faces.

“You don't think we're just, this car culture is intractable.”

Financial Viability and Political Challenges

31:26 to 33:53

Understand the financial and political hurdles impacting rail development in the U.S.

“Back in California, the Rail Authority insists state funds can cover the cost of the Central Valley leg.”

The Future of High-Speed Rail in the U.S.

33:53 to 34:31

Discuss the prospects of building high-speed rail systems in the U.S. and current skepticism.

“Pollution reduction, congestion reduction, improved safety, comfort, reliability.”

The Future of High-Speed Rail in the U.S.

34:49 to 36:46

Discuss the prospects of building high-speed rail systems in the U.S. and current skepticism.

“Finding the right furniture for my home can be hard, especially when I'm looking for trendy, high-quality pieces that won't break the bank.”

The Mardi Gras Indian Tradition

36:54 to 42:00

Delve into the vibrant culture of the Mardi Gras Indians in New Orleans.

“Every year on Mardi Gras morning, something extraordinary emerges from the back streets of New Orleans, groups of black revelers most tourists will never see.”

Exploring the Mardi Gras Indian Tradition

42:00 to 50:00

Learn about the cultural significance and history of the Mardi Gras Indians.

“Howard Miller is the president of the Mardi Gras Indian Council, a governing body for the tribes, and chief of the Creole Wild West.”

Reflections on America with Franklin Graham

50:14 to 52:45

Franklin Graham discusses the impact of faith on American values and history.

“Evangelist Franklin Graham has preached in all 50 states and provided disaster relief to more than 100 countries.”
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1:19From pre-K through 12th grade, IXL offers personalized interactive learning that adapts to each child's level and pace. It's an easy way to keep learning going through the summer and helps kids feel confident heading into the next school year. Studies show kids who use IXL score higher on tests, proven in all 50 states. And get this, IXL is used in 96 of the top 100 school districts in the U.S. That's a huge endorsement. Make an impact on your child's learning. Get IXL now. And listeners can get an exclusive 20 % off IXL membership when they sign up today at IXLLearning.com slash audio. Visit IXLLearning.com slash audio to get the most effective learning program out there at the best price.

2:11Parking for the free clinic fills days early. People sleep in their cars for a chance at medical care. If you didn't have remote area medical, what would you do? Suck. No other way around. With millions losing insurance, we saw desperation meet compassion. Looks good.

2:43Californians got on board for a$33 billion high-speed train that was supposed to connect L.A. to San Francisco by 2020. Instead, they have this, an unfinished line connecting, wait for it, Bakersfield and Merced. Why have 20 other countries managed to build high-speed rail while America hasn't? We've heard people saying what happened in the past is the past. Failure is not an option. Failure is always an option.

3:16Every year on Mardi Gras Day, an extraordinary sight emerges from the back streets of New Orleans. They call themselves Mardi Gras Indians or Black Masking Indians. And they roam the neighborhoods in dazzling hand-sewn suits. This Easter Sunday, take in the sights and sounds of one of America's last true secret societies.

3:44I'm Leslie Stahl. I'm Scott Pelley. I'm Anderson Cooper. I'm Sharon Alfonsi. I'm John Wertheim. I'm Cecilia Vega. I'm Bill Whitaker. Those stories end in our last minute, an article of faith by evangelist Franklin Graham. Tonight on 60 Minutes.

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4:43So when you're ready to score five-star style for every room in your home at everyday low prices, listen to the smartest shoppers around and stop in or shop online at Bob's Discount Furniture, where America shops for furniture. Hey parents, we all know summer break is for fun, but it's also a time when kids can start losing some of the progress they made during the school year. We want them to stay engaged and keep those young minds active. Between camps, vacations, and family time, it can be tough to keep a learning routine going. That's why I want to tell you about IXL. IXL is an award-winning online learning platform that helps kids truly understand what they're learning.

5:21Whether they're building math confidence, strengthening reading and writing skills, or reviewing science concepts. From pre-K through 12th grade, IXL offers personalized interactive learning that adapts to each child's level and pace. It's an easy way to keep learning going through the summer and helps kids feel confident heading into the next school year. Studies show kids who use IXL score higher on tests, proven in all 50 states. And get this, IXL is used in 96 of the top 100 school districts in the U.S. That's a huge endorsement. Make an impact on your child's learning. Get IXL now. And listeners can get an exclusive 20 % off IXL membership when they sign up today at IXLLearning.com slash audio.

6:05Visit IXLLearning.com slash audio to get the most effective learning program out there at the best price. About one-third of Americans say they have skipped meals, borrowed money, or cut back on utilities to pay for health care. That's in a Gallup poll released in March. The Trump administration has lowered prices on more than 50 drugs, but it also let premiums rise, even double, in the affordable care marketplace and made the biggest cuts ever to Medicaid. Already, 3 million have lost insurance, and it's estimated it'll be 10 million in three years. All of this reminded us of our story in 2008 about a charity called Remote Area Medical.

6:53RAM started out parachuting doctors into South American jungles, but in the 1990s it turned to another isolated people, Americans, cut off from health care by the cost. Recently, we returned to RAM at one of its free pop-up clinics. For Americans long on pain and short on hope, Ram is a ray of mercy in the darkness. The parking lot in Knoxville, Tennessee began to fill early. In a frigid February, many drove hundreds of miles in desperation. Nearby, remote area medical would open a clinic inside an empty exhibit hall. But Ram can take only so many patients on a weekend, so they joined the line days before.

7:45We met Sandra Talent at 5 a.m. Sandra, where did you come from? Huntsville, Alabama. And how long have you been in the parking lot here? Since 4.30, Wednesday night. Wednesday night? Yeah. So Wednesday night, Thursday night, and this is Friday morning. Two nights sleeping in her car, a 200-mile drive, all for lack of dental insurance. If you didn't have RAM, how would you get your teeth taken care of? I wouldn't. A few spaces over, Dave Bird spent the night in his truck, aching for a full set of dentures. What happened to your teeth? Several things. I had an uninsured drunk driver run a red light doing 80, hit me head on.

8:35Almost killed me. Two years of rehab and three surgeries, and 140 ,000 later I was able to go back to work. At work one day I'm drilling through a basement wall, and the drill hangs up on a piece of rebar and comes around, smacks me in the mouth, cracks my jaw, and broken back out again. By then I was pretty thin on money to do much about it, so I didn't have a lot of choices. I just kept working. But working was rare. Employers on construction jobs just assume he lost his teeth to meth addiction. Burge told us his only habits are nicotine and caffeine, and right now he could use a cup. He's wrapped in four layers against 27 degrees.

9:22If you didn't have remote area medical, what would you do? What's up? I'm not with no other way around. They're life-changing. Life-changing. When they hand you your life back, that's life-changing. That's what teeth mean to me. I can be a normal human again. I sure do appreciate you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Good luck. Let's go. Your dentures. Okay, you're going to be over here. He had the luck of being near the head of the line, which stretched to 1 ,200 patients in Knoxville over a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Hold on to that. When you go up there for service, you've got to bring them that ticket.

10:14Brad Sands, a former paramedic, is a RAM clinic coordinator. I'm number four. Number four, head on up. Who are the people in the cars? Everybody. I mean, it's your neighbors, it's your parents, it's your friends, it's the community around you. It's everybody. And it's nationwide. Somewhere in America, Brad Sands sets up a clinic like this most every weekend. It's all comers. Mm-hmm. No questions asked. No insurance needed. You don't even have to give me your real name. We met a woman at a RAM expedition who was so grateful for the help she received. But she said, I just hate to ask. I'm not going to judge your story.

11:01Nobody here that's working or volunteering today is going to judge any person that comes through that door. We are here to help. Can you see any of those lines out there? About half of the patients have no insurance. The rest have insurance they can't afford to use because of co-pays and deductibles. And many health insurance plans have no dental. Correct. No vision care? Correct. No hearing care? Correct. This is our triage area. Chris Hall volunteered at RAM when he was 12 years old. Now, he's CEO. So when you look at the patients that come through our door, 65 % of those patients are requesting dental service.

11:4430 % of those patients are requesting eye exams and glasses. Only 5 % are requesting medical care. Dental and vision are two things that are isolated that people do not have access to or can't afford the access to. Are you a diabetic? There's also screening for blood sugar, blood pressure, breast cancer, skin cancer, and more. Depending on the size of the clinic, Ram will spend between$100 ,000 and half a million dollars over a weekend. How do you pay for all of this? It's the generosity of the public. Over 81 % of our supporters are individual donors, people that write$5,$10,$20 checks every month.

12:22Those checks are leveraged with donated clinic space, donated supplies, and volunteers. 887 volunteers on this Knoxville weekend alone. This sheet here is extremely important. Medical professionals paid their own way from 30 states and brought medical students with them. Treat these patients with dignity, with respect. Talk to them like they're human beings, please. If you ever lose faith in humanity, go spend 10 minutes at a RAM clinic. You're going to see hundreds of people there that are donating their time. And they're coming out and they're donating large swaths of their own money, slash time, to help their neighbors.

13:09I remember there was a guy many years ago who had a broken tooth. And he told me that he tried to remove it with a screwdriver. So if that doesn't move you to help, you know, that's the desperation. Let's see what we got here. Dentist Glenn Goldstein volunteered from New Jersey. He sees patients suffering from a past without health care and no hope for the future. You know, I've had young people in, you know, I said, well, you know, some of these teeth can be saved. You know that, right? Because, yeah, I don't care. Please, I don't have any money. I don't have any way to get these fixed, so please, please take them out.

13:50I got a bunch of loose tooth and gross tooth, and it doesn't bother me, but I'm ready to get them all out. And it's heartbreaking to take all the teeth out. It's terrible. Patients ask you to take all of their teeth out? All their teeth. Let's see. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16. Because they know going forward they will not be able to take care of them. 100%. Relieving pain was the mission of Ram's late founder, an eccentric Englishman, daredevil pilot, and Amazon cowboy. Tell me about Stan Brock. Stan was a magnificent leader, magnificent man, humble. We met Stan Brock and Ram in 2008.

14:42We're very happy that you're here this morning. We've got a lot of really fine volunteer doctors, dentists, eye specialists. Stan was an adventurer who once walked 26 days in the Amazon to be treated for an injury. So he started his airborne medical charity with an Army Surplus C-47 that flew on D-Day. When we met, he was 72, had no family, took no salary, lived in an office donated to Ram, and showered with a garden hose. He died in 2018 in the office. He was perhaps the most dedicated person I've ever met. I agree with you completely on that. I joked around a lot when I tell people working with Stan, it was really hard to ask for a day off when your boss hadn't had a day off in 20 years.

15:38When we met in 2008, Stan Brock was staging 12 clinics a year. After our broadcast,$4 million in donations poured in along with thousands more volunteers. Ram has grown from a dozen to 90 clinics a year. It's because of you. and your story back in 2008 that brought me to almost to tears. And as soon as your segment was over about this organization, I immediately went online, looked it up, and registered down here. I'm from Jersey. I understand that volunteering at RAM has become a family thing. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We've got one left. So my son, who's here with me now, my wife has been here, My daughter-in-law, my daughter, my other son, they've all been here a multitude of times.

16:32Sounds like you get as much out of this as the patients do. Maybe more. You have high blood pressure, anything like that. Only when I'm in pain. Remember Sandra Talent, the woman we met in her car? And Dave Burge, who lost his teeth in two accidents. they're here for dentures a process that would take weeks were it not for this trailer and the 22-year-old engineer who helped build it connor gibson uses computer design to make dentures with 3d printers they can print a set in an hour or so gibson has slept in here to keep the printers running non-stop. He's inspired by something he calls the mirror moment.

17:23We say it's worth a million dollars, but truly it's priceless. When you give them that mirror, you just see all that stress melt away. And no matter if they're 18 or 80. We see grown men cry sitting in the chair.

17:46And so it was for Dave Burge, the man who told us in the parking lot that he wanted to be a normal human again. You're a new man. Thank you. There you go. right and the mirror smiled on sandra talent looks good yeah

18:13happy tears yeah what does this moment mean to you i don't know what i do you know the lord would make a way but i feel like he has made a way through ram over the knoxville weekend ram RAM allowed more than 500 patients to see, 700 live without pain, and restored the smiles of 24. With insurance out of reach for growing millions, RAM will hurry to another city to make health in America a little less remote. Oh, you look beautiful! Do you think you look pretty? Yeah, you look gorgeous. Good. Seriously. Good. You look so pretty. Thank you for being here, honey. Have a great day. You too. Have a great life.

19:03Get some sleep.

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20:36We want them to stay engaged and keep those young minds active. Between camps, vacations, and family time, it can be tough to keep a learning routine going. That's why I want to tell you about IXL. IXL is an award-winning online learning platform that helps kids truly understand what they're learning, whether they're building math confidence, strengthening reading and writing skills, or reviewing science concepts. From pre-K through 12th grade, IXL offers personalized interactive learning that adapts to each child's level and pace. It's an easy way to keep learning going through the summer and helps kids feel confident heading into the next school year.

21:13Studies show kids who use IXL score higher on tests, proven in all 50 states, And get this, IXL is used in 96 of the top 100 school districts in the U.S. That's a huge endorsement. Make an impact on your child's learning. Get IXL now. And listeners can get an exclusive 20 % off IXL membership when they sign up today at IXllearning.com slash audio. Visit IXllearning.com slash audio to get the most effective learning program out there at the best price. It's hard to exaggerate the role of the train in the American story, or the romance of train travel, those iron horses galloping down tracks of steel.

21:55Why then has high-speed rail, so common in other countries, not tracked in the U.S.? An ambitious state-run project connecting L.A. and San Francisco has lurched, derailed, cost billions, and may never happen. One private company is betting that it can succeed where the public sector is not, but that too has had its bumps. As U.S. high-speed rail remains a mirage, a ghost train, it's become a stand-in for a broader question. Can America get its act together and still build big things? The very model of modern engineering, it hums across the fruited plains at a top speed of 200 miles an hour. It's revolutionized travel.

22:36It's a source of national pride. In Morocco. Here in the U.S., high-speed rail looks like this, hardly passenger-ready. America's hopes for its first high-speed rail were kindled in 2008, when California voters approved a ballot measure for a train connecting Los Angeles to San Francisco in less than three hours. The estimated price tag,$33 billion. Completion date, 2020. It would cut pollution, revitalize local economies, clear gridlock. Status update. Today, the state's high-speed rail authority is preparing to lay its first tracks at roughly the same cost. Only slight course correction here.

23:21Instead of L.A. to San Francisco, it will run one-third of that distance connecting, wait for it, the metropolis of Bakersfield and Merced, population 96 ,000. Oh, and when will it open? 2033. Maybe. I think that the California high-speed rail nightmare is the probably quintessential example of government waste and mismanagement. You say this needs to stop. Needs to stop. Congressman Vince Fong, a Republican from Bakersfield, sits on the House Transportation Committee. He says that when California voters first approved high-speed rail, the promise and price tag were more marketing campaign than realistic projection.

24:01We're now in 2026. There are no trains. There's no track laid. It's a complete bait-and-switch. If I vote for a mansion in Malibu by next year and someone says, actually, you know what, in five years we're going to have a doghouse in Modesto, how do things go so off the rails? The business plan that was put out in 2008 was very theoretical. This is what we think is going to happen. And it became very clear that they didn't have the specifics worked out. On that point, management doesn't disagree. Toks Amashakhin is California's Secretary of Transportation and Anthony Williams, a Rail Authority board member.

24:38Both are relatively new to the job left to answer for their predecessors. There were mistakes made. Some of the criticism on this project, I think, are very fair. What happened? I don't think the voters fully understood, and neither did we in the public sector, what it was going to take to actually get this project delivered. To get the necessary political buy-in from the whole state, the plan called for the train to run inland, threading the farmland of the Central Valley. Yet the rail authority hadn't answered basic questions, like precisely where it could lay down its tracks, what's known as right-of-way.

25:153 ,000 parcels had to be negotiated just for the segments that we're working on today in the Central Valley. It seems to me one farmer doesn't want high-speed rail going through his field, and you've got a guy that can gum up the works for a long time. Yeah, that's what happens. sometimes in these processes. More snarl. California's exacting environmental regulations, which triggered all manner of reviews, lawsuits, and delays. As anyone who's renovated a home knows, delay adds to price. So do the high U.S. labor and construction costs, at least compared to many other countries. And while the federal government contributed modestly under the Obama and Biden administrations, the burden fell largely on the state.

25:59When construction started, was the financing there to complete this rail? It wasn't. Let's be real. We had a lot to learn and we had a lot of growth to do. And, you know, it's arguable whether, you know, we should have been clearer about that. By 2019, cost ballooning in the timeline years off schedule, bipartisan political pressure mounted. Newly elected, Governor Gavin Newsom said this in his first state of the state. Right now, there simply isn't a path to get from Sacramento to San Diego, let alone from San Francisco to L.A. Under Newsom, who didn't respond to repeated interview requests, California decided to focus on that initial Central Valley segment, a route few clamored for and fewer are likely to ride, though the ultimate goal remains connecting northern and southern California.

26:50When you have a project like this and when the budget no longer permits you to finish it the way you want it to, you start cutting off your arms and legs. Lou Thompson helped found Amtrak in the 1970s and until 2024 sat on California's high-speed rail peer review group. We've heard people say, time to cut bait. We've heard people saying what happened in the past is the past. Failure is not an option. Failure is always an option. Is that what's going to happen here? Uh, no, I don't think so. But I think what will happen in the short range is that they will cut back and do the best they can with the money they have available.

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27:30Here outside Fresno in California's Central Valley, one of the few signs of concrete progress, literally, structures like this. Locals here jokingly refer to it as their own Stonehenge. Ideally, these bridges and viaducts will one day be used to support California high-speed rail. But for now, these are curiosities in a field. Monuments to promises that haven't been met and plans that haven't been executed. Ironic because American rail was once the world's envy. In the 1800s, the U.S. government oversaw the birth of the Transcontinental Railroad, stitching the country together as it expanded westward.

28:09We turn to the future. In the 1950s, the Eisenhower administration decided that the transportation vanguard was off the tracks, creating, and critically continuously funding, the interstate highway system. And the family car is in tip-top shape. Fueling the world's proudest car culture. Meanwhile, Japan's famous bullet train opened in 1964. And today, more than 20 countries have high-speed rail, generally defined as cruising at 150 miles an hour or more. Yes, Germany and France and China, but also Turkey, Indonesia. Egypt has broken ground. The obvious question there is, like, how can it be that we can't get it done and they can get it done, right?

28:53We know we can do this. It's an economic engine. Mike Reininger is managing director of Brightline West, a private company that believes it can achieve what California hasn't. Oh, wow. Next stop, Zurich. It's just like a European trade. This train, which opened in 2018 and runs between Miami and Orlando, hits top speeds of around 125 miles an hour. Not quite high speed, but close. It's akin to a beta test for Brightline's next project, a boa train connecting L.A. and Las Vegas in just over two hours, a trip that can take five hours by car. Brightline West will be true high-speed rail, first time in the country, and we'll operate at speeds of about 200 miles an hour maximum.

29:39Out west, Brightline is solving the right-of-way issue by running on the median of the I-15 highway. Construction has already begun on some of the station structures. The plan is to start service in 2029. What are you telling people to get them out of their cars or getting them to avoid the airport? It's more enjoyable. It's safer. It's reliable. This really is all about changing people's behavior. You don't think we're just, this car culture is intractable. It's so hardened, and it's so much a part of the American psyche, it just can't be cracked. I don't think so at all. Cultural questions aside, Brightline's Florida trains run at street level through crowded neighborhoods.

30:20And according to numbers compiled by the Miami Herald and local public radio, more than 200 people have been hit and killed by the trains in the near decades since operations began. Brightline says that running rail in the desert out west, where track crossings won't be at street level, will be a safer proposition. Then there are the finances. The stratospheric costs of building and running a rail line vastly outstrip revenues. Analysts have downgraded Brightline's debt to junk, raising questions about private rail as a business. To what extent, big picture, do you worry about the future financial viability of Brightline?

30:59The business has built slower than we originally expected it to build. We thought we would be carrying more passengers today than we are. The business is, in fact, growing month over month, year over year. That's a great thing. That solidifies in our mind the viability of the business. Brightline's West Coast project has already received some federal funding and is hoping for a$6 billion loan from the Trump administration. If you look around the world, for the most part, the infrastructure systems are funded by the public sector. You do see a role for government here. Absolutely. We welcome it.

31:33Back in California, the Rail Authority insists state funds can cover the cost of the Central Valley leg. As for the rest? Just to be clear, as we speak right now, are the funds there to complete L.A. to San Francisco? The entire amount of money we need, not there today. But do we believe we can get those funds to get the project done? Absolutely. How much do you estimate it's going to cost to connect high-speed rail, San Francisco to L.A.? Today, we estimate, with the right optimization, just over$125 billion. I think$126 billion is the current estimate for that. That's more funding than Amtrak has received in its history, and still leaves a shortfall of roughly$90 billion.

32:16That's a big gap to fill. It is a big gap to fill, but again, we have an understanding of how to get there and to fill that gap. A gap the authority hopes to fill with a new plan to cut costs, lure private investment, and connect to bigger cities much sooner. But there's another challenge to building anything today, the swirling winds of a political climate in which one party pushes and the other reflexively pulls. Remember Gavin Newsom's pessimism? In recent months, he's championed the project. This is not just a transportation project. This is about reimagining the future of this region. Meanwhile, in 2025, President Trump canceled$4 billion in federal grants for the train, swiping at a political nemesis in the process.

33:04Did you ever hear of Gavin Newsom? He has got, that train is the worst cost overrun I've ever seen. In a statement to 60 Minutes, Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy said the administration is in favor of high-speed rail. But this project has, quote, wasted billions in taxpayer dollars, yet delivered nothing. Can this be done without help from the federal government? This initial segment, we believe so. The ultimate 494 miles of building this out without the federal government's help will be challenging. There's no doubt about that. Is this a nonstarter to build a project like this without federal funding?

33:43Well, not only can't it be done, it shouldn't be done. because a lot of the benefits of the project, the reason why you build a project is public. Pollution reduction, congestion reduction, improved safety, comfort, reliability. All of those things are public benefits. There are other ideas for U.S. high-speed rail, say Dallas to Houston, but nothing else in the building stage, leaving that uneasy overarching question. Morocco has high-speed rail, and Serbia and China and Japan and Western Europe. Why don't we? What's your simple answer? Well, the simple answer is they've decided they want to do it and pay for it, and we haven't.

34:25You think we will in our lifetimes? I don't know. I'm dubious. I'm dubious. Absent a national political will to work with the states to create some of these systems, I think it's going to be in, of course, my lifetime, almost certainly not. but maybe yours, I don't know.

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36:46Visit IXllearning.com slash audio to get the most effective learning program out there at the best price. Every year on Mardi Gras morning, something extraordinary emerges from the back streets of New Orleans, groups of black revelers most tourists will never see. They call themselves Mardi Gras Indians or Black Masking Indians, and they roam the city's neighborhoods in dazzling, hand-sewn suits. The tradition dates to the 1800s as a way to honor their ancestors, and, according to Mardi Gras Indian lore, is rooted in profound respect for Native Americans said to have sheltered enslaved Africans who had escaped.

37:28It's an expression of joy, protest, and pride passed from generation to generation. On this Easter Sunday, you'll meet the artists and musicians preserving the culture and take in the sights and sounds of one of America's last true secret societies.

37:54If you're lucky enough to find them, you'll discover a vibrant tapestry of African, Caribbean, and Native American threads, part of the cultural gumbo that is New Orleans.

38:09These extravagant suits, plumed, bejeweled, beaded, and sequined, are handcrafted in secret for an entire year to be unveiled on Mardi Gras Day. Chahua, that's Big Chief Daman Melanson of the Young Seminole Hunters, announcing his arrival. Chahua! Chahua, who the best? Who got the best B-work? Who got the best rhinestones? Who could sing the best? Who got the biggest tribe? Who don't? That's what it is. There are dozens of groups calling themselves tribes. The leader is known as the Big Chief, who along with his Big Queen and their crew, strut through historically black neighborhoods searching for other tribes.

38:57When Big Chief DeMond meets another Big Chief, You think she's the bone of the big sheets? Come on, wow, wow. They square off in mock battle, competing to show whose suit is, in their words, the prettiest. We saw Daman face down tribes all over the city. What just happened back then? It looked like he just bowed out. But you won. Yeah, I think I did. You were the prettiest. Yeah, yeah. We on fire. We on fire. We on fire. Fire. Who are you on Mardi Gras day? When I put that suit on, I'm Big Chief DeMond Malone. Is that different from the DeMond who's sitting here in front of me now? Yes, indeed.

39:40How different? Somebody that's ready to honor everything that I was taught by my elders. And I'm ready to kill you there with the needle and thread. Needle and thread to do the work of his heart and hands. Big Chief DeMond and his wife, Alicia, meticulous as surgeons, sew beads the size of chia seeds on a canvas and stitch rhinestones in place with dental floss, painting with beads, making artwork for his suit. What, to you, makes a suit pretty? The hookup. What do you mean? How it's laid out, how the velvet gets around it, how you break the feathers, how you manipulate the feathers, how many rows of rhinestones you have around the beadwork.

40:22That's the perfection of knowing your hookup, if you're that good. Oh, wow. This year's suit tells the story of the Amistad, a slave ship seized by the captive Africans in 1839, led by a man called Sin K. This panel shows when the Africans won their freedom in a case that went to the U.S. Supreme Court. Look at this. John Quincy Adam, he was one of the lawyers on the case. My God. So you're doing this, like, nonstop? I sold some sticks in the morning at 12 at night. And this is every day? Every day. Every day. Why? That's it, man. Without these beads, I couldn't breathe. And every breath is hard-earned.

41:10It can take thousands of dollars and thousands of hours to design and sew a suit. For years, Big Chief DeMond was laying concrete and cooking lobsters, pouring all his spare time and money into his creations. He now makes a living as an artist. This year's suit cost$25 ,000. But this flamboyant display is not a beauty pageant. It's the flowering of deep roots. The community is what makes me, it's my fuel, the people. Your fuel. Yeah, it fuels the fire because you're doing it for them. Like, you do this for your community and your people. It is the greatest kept secret in America. and throughout the world.

41:53Today is the Mardi Gras Indian culture. This culture is dated back to slavery days. I have hope. Howard Miller is the president of the Mardi Gras Indian Council, a governing body for the tribes, and chief of the Creole Wild West. He told us it's a culture shaped by resistance to oppression and sustained by resilience. How would you explain the Mardi Gras Indians to people who don't have a clue what they're about? Well, we wasn't allowed to go to those big parades and stuff. So this, in our community, was about lifting our people in a proud manner. There's no one definitive origin story, but historians have found references to the tradition dating back to the mid-1800s.

42:39According to stories passed down through generations, when enslaved people escaped New Orleans, Native Americans in the bayous gave them refuge. Today, many tribe members claim indigenous and African roots. Masking, some say, began as a way to honor those indigenous tribes while disguising or masking their African identity. Because here in America, especially here in the South, everything about Africa was forbidden. So we went behind our masks as Indians to practice our culture. Was it easy to join a tribe? No, it wasn't. In 1969, it took then-12-year-old Howard Miller six weeks just to get in the door of a big chief's house, the tribe's headquarters.

43:24I had a friend of mine. He was in it. And I would go around there with him trying to get in. But they wouldn't let me in the gate. Wouldn't even let you in the gate? No, I had to stay outside of Yawahee. He'd go in there. Eventually, I got on the porch. And I was watching all this shit magic with the suits and what they was doing and started a rainstorm. Thunder, lightning, raining hard. I'm getting wet. And the chief said, that boy's still on the porch. And somebody said, yep, tell that boy to come on in here. That's how I got in the house. We visited the home of Joseph Pierre Boudreau, better known as Big Chief Monk of the Golden Eagles tribe.

44:03Big chiefs aren't just heads of their tribes. They're mentors and community leaders. And Big Chief Monk is one of the most respected. But the working-class neighborhoods that sustain the tribes have been thinned and scattered by Hurricane Katrina and gentrification. 84-year-old Monk Boudreau is determined to hold on to the community and legacy and is preparing for his 72nd year of masking. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. Let the world know that we're here and we've been here. We ain't just got here. We've been here. You ain't going to see that. We joined the Boudreaux's in a sewing circle before Mardi Gras.

44:45For decades, Big Chief Monk sewed suits for his children and grandchildren. This year, they gathered and helped him sew his. My whole family's talent, you know, by just sitting there watching me for all these years, you know, as kids. They were always right there while I was sewing, sitting right there. I sew all night long. I sew all night long. All those long hours of sewing inspired a song.

45:18In the 1970s, Monk was one of the first to marry Mardi Gras Indian chants to New Orleans funk. His albums earned two Grammy nominations. His son Joseph and grandson Juan often sang back up. We met them, Monk's daughter Wynoka and grandson Marwan, at one of Monk's favorite New Orleans clubs, Tipitina's. What's his impact on the culture? The impact that Michael Jordan had on basketball. Yeah. I'll put it like that. You can't mention Mardi Gras without Monk. Yeah. I'll achieve it. I never saw him take a break. Like, I never saw him say, oh, this year I'm not coming. You know, my father, he took something that was made for the culture in the streets, and he was one of the pioneers that took it global.

46:09There's not a person in the city of New Orleans that sews an Indian suit, and they don't put on his music. Big Chief DeMond included. Lord, that man make me cry. Like a monk. He do me something. He's moved by the music and the weight of his calling. The expense almost left him destitute. You sacrificed a lot to make these suits. Mm-hmm. You lost a house because you were so consumed with making your suit? Yeah, yeah. Because it's hard. I know it's hard, but losing a house didn't make you stop. What? Why? Why? Because you got put out of your house. No, indeed. I'm preserving the culture. And the fine art world has taken notice.

47:03His suits and beaded portraits have been displayed in museums and galleries all over the world. It's allowed him to buy a new house, every inch of which was covered with plumes and patches the evening before Mardi Gras. Y 'all ready? After working through the night, Big Chief DeMond emerged transformed in a suit that stood more than 10 feet tall and weighed 120 pounds. He used a U-Haul to move from place to place, but he tells us there was something else carrying him along. The spirits come down every time we put it on, especially with me. You know, my elders live through me, and it's an opening of the gates.

47:45What do you mean? That means they came down, they're coming through me to walk in their shoes on the streets of New Orleans, like they taught us. So what we're doing is we're preserving it for that nice generation to be able to walk like I walk. It's going to change my life. The spirits, it seems, are opening other gates for him. His work will be featured next month at the Venice Biennale in Italy, the world's most prestigious art exhibition. Do you think your success in the art world will encourage a younger generation to carry on with this culture? I pray it does. And I pray one of them picks up a needle and won't do what I do.

48:26You know? Preserving tradition for the next generation. We heard that a lot here. It's what Big Chief Monk lives for. But this year, he was too weak to march with his tribe. Just before Mardi Gras, he was diagnosed with cancer.

48:47But he came out on his porch to see the tribe off with the Mardi Gras Indians' most sacred hymn.

49:04What's it like for you to see your tribe march off and you're not joining them this year? Well, I knew that time was going to come, but I didn't know when. But you got to see this day. Yeah, right. I was going to see this day. And the day is coming, he told us, for him to pass his crown on to the next chief. See, if you don't keep it going, if you lose it, it's gone forever. It's finished. You know what I think, it just disappears. Not here in New Orleans. Not here in New Orleans. No. Uh-uh. You keep it rolling. Keeping it rolling and chanting and showing off. A culture in full bloom. Too pretty, too rooted to fade.

49:52Just yet.

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50:19Evangelist Franklin Graham has preached in all 50 states and provided disaster relief to more than 100 countries. For tonight's Reflections on America, we ask Graham, which value does he believe shaped the nation the most? Faith. Faith in God is the value that most shaped America. Remember the pilgrims? They came to this land to find freedom to live out their faith. And it's people of faith who have been the bedrock, the driving force behind our nation. In years past, where did people turn after a disaster? Not FEMA, not to the government. It was the church that took them in, fed them, gave them shelter, clothed them.

51:00It was people of faith who established our health care in this country. Our higher education was started by people of faith. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded to train ministers of the gospel. From the remote villages of Alaska to the tip of the Florida Keys today, you'll find houses of worship. and people of faith making a difference. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I want all people to know that God loves them, that He cares for them. So I see faith as the most important defining value in our nation and in every single life. I'm Bill Whitaker. We'll be back next week with another edition of 60 Minutes.

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Countries around the world have built high-speed rail - why has it failed to catch on in the U.S.? An ambitious state-run project connecting L.A. and San Francisco is vastly behind schedule and has seen costs balloon. One private company is hoping it can succeed where the public sector hasn’t – but that too faces challenges. Correspondent Jon Wertheim reports on the state of high-speed rail in the U.S. – which has become a stand-in for a broader question: can America still build big things? 

Every year on Mardi Gras Day, Black revelers roam the backstreets of New Orleans in dazzling, hand-sewn suits that take an entire year to create. Correspondent Bill Whitaker meets the Mardi Gras Indians, also known as Black Masking Indians, one of America’s last secret societies, who are preserving a culture that dates to at least the 1800s. It’s a tradition marked by resilience and resistance that honors their ancestors. Nichole Marks is the producer. 

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