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1:07How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran? You go in and you take it out. Tonight, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in his first U.S. broadcast interview since the war with Iran began. Netanyahu was careful, but he did signal where the war may be headed and the imperative of getting nuclear material out of Iran. Can it be taken out by force? Well, you're going to ask me these questions. I'm going to dodge them. Change! Change! Change! The once arcane process to redraw congressional district maps has exploded into an unprecedented national free-for-all to control Congress.

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4:34broadcast interview since the war began. He was careful with his words, but if you listen closely, you can find signs of where the war, and the region, may be headed. Is the war with Iran over? And if it isn't, who will decide when it is? I think it accomplished a great deal, but it's not over because there's still nuclear material, enriched uranium that has to be taken out of Iran. There is still enrichment sites that have to be dismantled. There are still proxies that Iran supports. There are ballistic missiles that they still want to produce. Now we've degraded a lot of it, but all of that is still there, and there's work to be done.

5:18How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran? You go in and you take it out. With what? Special forces from Israel, special forces of the United States? Well, I'm not going to talk about military means, but what President Trump has said to me, I want to go in there. And I think it can be done physically. That's not the problem. If you have an agreement and you go in and you take it out, why not? That's the best way. What if there isn't an agreement? Can it be taken out by force? Well, you're going to ask me these questions. I'm going to dodge them, because I'm not going to talk about our military possibilities, plans, or anything of the kind.

5:57And I'm just trying to get at how long is it going to take to achieve that aim? I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but I'm going to say that's a terrifically important mission. Hours before we sat down with the prime minister, Israel targeted Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon. This is the second front in the war with Iran. Much more Israels than Americas. Is it possible, Mr. Prime Minister, that the war with Iran could end, but the war with Hezbollah could continue? That these would be separate and divergent battlefields? Well, they should be. They should be. What Iran would like to do is to say, you know, if we achieve a ceasefire here, we want a ceasefire there.

6:39They do, clearly. You know why? Because they want Hezbollah to stay there and continue to torture Lebanon, continue to hold its people hostage and continue - Will you accept that? No. Even if President Trump asks you to? Well, look, he understands what I'm saying. I mean, we want to get rid of that danger to our communities, to our cities. They rocket our cities all the time. They rocket our communities. And of course, would you want to live like that? So this could go on? Yeah, but I think - Even if Iran is solved? I hope—no, if Iran, if this regime is indeed weakened or possibly toppled, I think it's the end of Hezbollah, it's the end of Hamas, it's probably the end of the Houthis, because the whole scaffolding of the terrorist proxy network that Iran built collapses if the regime in Iran collapses.

7:31Do you believe it is possible to topple the Iranian regime? I think that you can't predict when that happened. Is it possible? Yes. Is it guaranteed? No. But in the days before the war, according to a New York Times investigation, the prime minister presented a more optimistic case to the president. And the New York Times reports as follows. Quote, in the Situation Room on February 11th, Mr. Netanyahu made a hard sell, suggesting that Iran was ripe for regime change and expressing the belief that a joint U.S.-Israeli mission could finally bring an end to the Islamic Republic. Is that correct? No.

8:11That's actually incorrect because— In what ways is it incorrect? It's incorrect in the sense that I said, oh, well, it's guaranteed. We can do it and so on. In the confines of that conversation, you noted the uncertainty. Not only did I note it, we both agreed that there was both uncertainty and risk involved. And I remember that I said and he said that the danger— There's danger in action and taking action But there's greater danger in not taking action and continuing with the New York Times reported quote Mr.. Netanyahu and his team outlined conditions. They portrayed as pointing to certain victory Adding the regime would be so weakened that it could not choke off the Strait of Hormuz.

8:57Is that factually incorrect? I don't think we could quantify it exactly, but I think that that the problem of the Hormuz Straits was understood as the fighting went on. It became understood? It became understood. Was it misread at the beginning? I think, I'm not sure it was misread, but, you know, there's a great risk for Iran to do it. And it took a while for them to understand how big that risk is, which they understand now. No, I don't claim perfect foresight, and nobody had perfect foresight. Neither did the Iranians. Also not foreseen, the degree of Iranian military retribution against neighboring Gulf states and the damage it has caused.

9:39The Prime Minister told us we'd be surprised how many Arab states are interested in strengthening ties with Israel. I now see the possibility of the expansion and the deepening of the agreements we do have to alliances with Arab states of the kind that we never even dreamed of. There is concern rising among the Gulf monarchies that it will not allow and does not want Israel to exercise strategic dominance over the Middle East. So has any of this been jeopardized? I'm hearing different things. I'm hearing the fact from Arab countries, which I won't get into. All of them? No. But some of them, and I never heard that before, let's strengthen our alliance with Israel because that, in fact, deters Iran.

10:24Let's strengthen our alliance with Israel, because we can do amazing things with Israel. That was clearly the trajectory before this conflict. It's more than you think now in ways that I cannot, I guess will become public. I can't give everything to 60 minutes or to you in one shot. But I'm telling you that the degree of economic cooperation on energy, on AI, on quantum, The areas where Israel is so strong, and they see the possibility now of sharing the fruits of these capabilities with them. And that's happening right now. Also happening now, or later this week, a summit between Chinese President Xi Jinping and President Trump.

11:09China is the world's largest importer of crude oil through the Strait of Hormuz. We were curious about China's military involvement with Iran. I'd like to ask you about what you know about China providing materially valuable military support to what remains of the Iranian regime. True? China gave a certain amount of support on particular components of missile manufacturing, but I can't say more than that. Does that disturb you? Well, I didn't like it. Because it's apparently doing it right now. Could be. Could be. I don't want to speak for China. I don't want to speak also. But you have eyes and ears on this.

11:56Yeah, well, you know. But I also have a closed mouth when necessary. American military aid to Israel has enjoyed bipartisan consensus for decades. It is now$3.8 billion per year and subject to new political scrutiny because of shifting public attitudes about Israel and foreign aid in general. Do you believe it's time for the state of Israel to reexamine and possibly reset its financial relationship to the United States, meaning what the United States provides to Israel on an annual basis? Absolutely. And I've said this to President Trump. I've said it to our own people. people, their jaws dropped.

12:40But I said, look. What do you mean? What are you saying? I want to draw down to zero the American financial support, the financial component of the military cooperation that we have, because we receive$3.8 billion a year. And I think that it's time that we weaned ourselves from the remaining military support. Can you give me a timetable? I said let's start now and do it over the next decade, over the next 10 years, but I want to start now. I don't want to wait for the next Congress. I want to start now. Well-versed in American politics, the prime minister is keenly aware of declining support for Israel.

13:24According to a recent Pew survey, 60 % of U.S. adults reported having an unfavorable view of Israel, up nearly 20 points in four years. One of the big reasons? The war in Gaza, where according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry, more than 70 ,000 people have been killed. That includes civilians as well as Hamas terrorists. Netanyahu attributes the reputational harm to Israel almost entirely to social media, which he calls the eighth front of the war. Because it's this. This is yours, right? You're not immune either. Because you can penetrate this machine. You can penetrate this little instrument.

14:11And you can say about Major Garrett anything you want. And I can paint you as a monster. And if I say it often enough, enough people will believe it. Do you believe Israel is at risk of losing this war on that social media front? And this is particularly, I believe, important in America for younger Americans, Republican and Democrat, scrolling through images, and they would use words like barbaric in Gaza and in Lebanon. Israel has gone to unbelievable lengths to get innocent civilians out of harm's way. We text message millions of text messages to them, make millions of phone calls to them, pamphlets, leaflets, you name it.

14:57We have seen the deterioration of support for Israel in the United States almost, I would say, correlates almost 100 percent with the geometric rise of social media. And that by itself is not what caused it. And I don't believe in censoring them or anything, but I'll tell you what happened. We have several countries that basically manipulated social media, and they do it in a clever way. And that's something that has hurt us badly. Is it your belief, Mr. Prime Minister, that nothing that Israel has done, tactically or strategically, has made no mistakes, either in Gaza or the West Bank, that have, in their own way contributed to this negative impression of Israel, whether it's on social media or someplace else?

15:48No, of course. Look, it's war. In war, armies sometimes miss, and civilians die. And these are mistakes. These are not deliberate things that happen. Israel was besieged on the media front, on the propaganda front, and we have not done well on the propaganda war. The International Criminal Court, which neither Israel nor the U.S. recognize, has accused the prime minister of war crimes for Israel's conduct in Gaza, where he says he has not yet achieved one of his most important goals, disarming Hamas. Now what? Somebody has to disarm them. Somebody has to then demilitarize Gaza. I would say disarm, demilitarize, deradicalize, because you don't want these fanatics there.

16:39Is that Israel's obligation or is that the international community's obligation through the Board of Peace? Major, major. Find me the countries who would do it. You know, if it comes down to us, then we'll have to do it. But we'll choose the time and the circumstances in which to do it because, you know, we've got a few other things. But we are not going to let Hamas ever threaten Israel again. It'll have to be done. It could be done the hard way. It could be done the easy way. I always prefer the easy way because unlike my caricature image, having been to war, having seen the tragedy of war, having experienced it in my own family, you don't readily dispatch people, young men and sometimes young women, into the battlefield.

17:25You know, though, Mr. Prime Minister, there is an impression about you that it is a hunger that people perceive in you for conflict? That's funny, you know, because for years I was considered right before the October 7th, I was considered perhaps the most restrained prime minister in Israel's history. I was conceived as being politically tough, but militarily very restrained. Obviously it changed on October 7th because they were going to annihilate us. I didn't think it was just an attack by Hamas. I saw it as it was an attack by the Iran axis to try to annihilate us through a noose of death. And I said on the second day of the war, I said, we're going to change the Middle East.

18:14We're going to change this condition where they're ganging up on us, thinking they're going to wipe out the one and only Jewish state, wipe out 3 ,500 years of Jewish history. It's not going to happen. Not on my watch. and I said to the Israeli citizens, not on your watch.

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20:45The court said legislators relied too heavily on race to draw the lines. And that's where we went. Louisiana's Republican governor and his party are already moving to carve out new districts, and many black voters we met fear their district will be wiped off the map. I just don't understand why there is nobody able to stop this train. You see all the wrong. You see, it's racist. You know it. This past Monday, it was a packed house at the Galilee Baptist Church. There is a fight for freedom. The spiritual anchor to the west side of Shreveport, where for many, the memories of Jim Crow run deep. One by one, the constituents lined up with questions about the fate of their congressional district.

21:38Their Democratic congressman, Cleo Fields, didn't have many answers. Sometimes you get a setback to be set up. I mean, don't underestimate that power of the vote. That's what they are trying to take away. Congressman Fields has served the people of Louisiana for most of his life. First elected to the House of Representatives in 1992, he lost, then won again, in never-ending redistricting battles. Now he could be facing another loss. You believe this will not be your seat when and if this map is redrawn? I think it's highly unlikely. You have said this is not about you, your job, the seat that you hold personally.

22:21I'm just occupying the seat. And that's one of the things people get confused with. When there's a voting rights seat created, it guarantees a black an election. No, it doesn't guarantee a black anything. It just gives a black an opportunity to win an election. And that's why they even passed the Voting Rights Act. The 1965 Voting Rights Act was created to protect minority voting power. In Louisiana, which has one of the highest percentages of black residents in the country, about 30 percent, there has never been a black politician elected to Congress in a district where whites are in the majority.

23:04The recent Supreme Court ruling virtually gutted the landmark legislation, but some say its time has passed. There are conservative African Americans who have spoken out in recent days, and they have praised this court's ruling. And they say that there's proof of real racial progress. Oh, there is progress in the nation, you know. But there is not progress in the southern part of our country to the extent that you should do away with the voting rights side. You tell those same folk to come here and run for office and get elected. The 6th District stretches more than 200 miles from Baton Rouge to Shreveport.

23:49During oral arguments, Chief Justice John Roberts called it, quote, a snake that runs from one side of the state, angling up to the other, picking up Black populations as it goes along. The case was brought by a group describing themselves as non-African American voters. They sued Louisiana under the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which says the government must treat everyone equally under the law. In its ruling, the court called the 6th District MAP an unconstitutional racial gerrymander. Named after founding father Elbridge Gerry, gerrymandering is the process of redrawing political voting lines to benefit the party in power, and it's perfectly legal.

24:33Elbridge Gerry created a district resembling a salamander, thus gerrymander. A snake in Louisiana was a lobster in Virginia and earmuffs in Illinois. Yeah, it absolutely looks like a snake. Congressman Cleo Fields acknowledges black representation in Washington has grown in ways that once seemed impossible. This Congress has more black members than at any point in history, 63. Is that not progress? Yeah, it's progress. But it's not progress for Louisiana. There are people who in this state and others just will not vote for a black person for anything. You tell me I have to jump a certain height, that's the rule?

25:21I can work to do that. Run a certain speed? If that's the rule, let me work at it. I can do that. But if you tell me in order to be elected to Congress, you have to be white, there's nothing I can do about that. I need help from my government. In the United States, we get equal rights. No one gets extra rights. This past Tuesday, we went to Baton Rouge and met Governor Jeff Landry at the governor's mansion. A close ally of President Trump, he dominates Louisiana politics. The colorful, conservative Cajun was the state's attorney general before winning the top job in 2023. You cannot say that we are all created equal and that states must treat everyone equal under the law and then allow a law to sort people based upon race.

26:14Following the Supreme Court decision, Governor Landry declared a state of emergency and abruptly suspended congressional House primaries right as voting was starting, ordering a do-over at a future date, leaving voters dazed and confused. You declared a state of emergency. What exactly is the emergency? We've got the highest court of the land says the map that you have is unconstitutional, so we don't have a map under which our voters can vote on. This country has held elections during the Civil War, during two world wars. Elections still went on. We're going to have an election, and we're actually going to have an election on Election Day.

26:59But voting was already happening. As we sit here right now, more than 45 ,000 ballots have been returned. What happens to those? Oh, those ballots are discarded, and those voters will vote again in November. You say that like it's not a big deal. Well, it's not a big deal. It's not my fault. If anybody has a grievance, take it to the United States Supreme Court. Legal challenges over redistricting have consumed Louisiana, with federal courts repeatedly forcing lawmakers to redraw maps. Our voters are tired of it. I mean, does not Louisiana deserve some clarity? How do you want to see this look?

27:37I want Louisiana to be finally unshackled from the decades of litigation. Would it concern you if there were no African-American representatives from Louisiana in Congress? That's a decision that the legislature is going to make. But I don't believe that we have to go and draw a district that guarantees us a minority representation. Redistricting usually happens at the beginning of each decade using census data. But last summer, President Trump pushed Texas Republicans to redraw maps in hopes of gaining five seats ahead of the midterms. California's Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom responded by pushing a redistricting plan of his own that could give Democrats in his state five additional blue seats.

28:27Even former President Obama, who has publicly opposed gerrymandering in the past, is now pushing Democrats to fight back and pick up as many congressional seats as they can. The political tit-for-tat has turned into a coast-to-coast gerrymandering arms race, and Republicans are feeling increasingly confident following court rulings in their favor in Louisiana and Virginia. This past week, their efforts to redraw maps led to protests at the statehouse in Tennessee and Alabama. Whoever draws the maps now has no legal requirement that the map be drawn in any way to protect the political power of minority groups.