Pope Leo's Church, Risk on the Road, What Happened to the Great White Sharks?

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1:49There he is. Pope Leo XIV is known as deliberate and soft-spoken, but the American pope has become increasingly outspoken. War is back in vogue. Against certain policies of the American president. How far will Pope Leo go? We were surprised by the candor of church leaders who know him. What do you say to people in the pews who say, I don't want to hear politics from my priest? Thousands of trucking companies are racking up thousands of safety violations for poor maintenance and excessive driving hours, all while evading federal enforcement. They'd have me go out and do anything to get the money, no matter what the risk.

2:36Tonight, the results of our eight-month investigation into a scheme that may be putting all of us at risk on the road.

2:47Cardinal Joseph Tobin:The ocean off Cape Town, South Africa used to be teeming with great white sharks.

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5:37One of those voices belonged to Leo XIV, the first-ever U.S.-born pope in the history of the Catholic Church. The 70-year-old pope was born Robert Prevost and grew up in Chicago. For many years, he was known simply as Father Bob. Leo is measured, deliberate, and soft-spoken. But the American pope has become increasingly outspoken against certain policies of the American president. So we asked three influential American cardinals who know him well why Pope Leo's church has emerged as a voice of moral opposition to the war in Iran and the crackdown on immigration.

6:23Peace be with you. Those were the first words that Pope Leo uttered as the new leader of 1.4 billion Catholics worldwide. His selection was a surprise, celebrated by many of the 53 million that make Catholicism the largest Christian denomination in the United States. What do you think having an American pope has done for the Catholic Church here in the U.S.? I think it's put Chicago on the map. Finally. But we're proud. We're proud that we produced the Pope, that Chicago can say that. The Archbishop of Chicago, Cardinal Blaise Cupich, as well as Cardinals Robert McElroy of Washington, D.C., and Joseph Tobin of Newark, New Jersey, agreed to their first ever joint interview.

7:19Their candor surprised us about the new Pope and what they're hearing in the pews. We're the three American cardinals that are actively serving dioceses right now. So we listen to a lot of people. It's part of the job description. And I think we're aware of the anxieties of people about the threats to peace at all different levels. Would you like to see this first American pope be more outspoken on issues that he disagrees with? He's the pastor of the world. He's not a pundit. So the distinction is he's not going to pronounce on everything, but he's going to pronounce on what's important. War is back in vogue.

8:05He started in January with a speech criticizing U.S. military action in Venezuela. After that, the Vatican's ambassador in the U.S. was called to the Pentagon for a meeting, which two church officials described to 60 Minutes as unpleasant and contentious. Both the Pentagon and the Vatican have said since in multiple statements that it was routine and provided an opportunity for an exchange of ideas. In March, we traveled to Italy and managed to ask Pope Leo a question about the war in Iran. Holy Father, can I ask you what your hopes are for the Middle East? I'm praying for peace. I hope that ceasefire would be the most effective way to work together, to find peace for all parties, to respect all parties, and to come to a solution, which is too many years in creating problems for everyone.

9:05So work for peace. Since our visit, the pope's tone has sharpened. This past week, he issued a rare condemnation of President Trump's threat to destroy Iranian civilization. The pope called it, quote, truly unacceptable. He also took the unusual step of issuing a call to action. Contact the authorities, political leaders, congressmen, to ask them, tell them to work for peace and to reject war always. The Holy Father usually avoids calling out President Trump by name or any member of his administration. But in a Palm Sunday homily, he appeared to reference the religious language Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who is Christian but not Catholic, often uses to frame the war.

9:57Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Pope Leo warned that Jesus, quote, does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war. Is this a just war? No. No. Under Catholic teaching, this is not a just war. Catholic faith teaches us there are certain prerequisites for a just war. You can't go for a variety of different aims. You have to have a focused aim, which is to restore justice and restore peace. That's it. Iran has been the chief exporter of terror. Is there no scenario in which preventing that can be a just war? It's an abominable regime, and it should be removed.

10:45But this is a war of choice that we went to, and I think it's embedded in a wider moment in the United States that's worrying, which is this. We're seeing before us the possibility of war after war after war. President Trump has argued that military action against Iran was justified in order to destroy its nuclear and ballistic missile programs, among other reasons. Cardinal Cupich not only takes issue with the war, but also what he calls the gamification of how the White House has portrayed it on social media. We're dehumanizing the victims of war by turning the suffering of people and the killing of children and our own soldiers into entertainment.

11:38You called it sickening. It is sickening. To splice together movie cuts with actual bombing and targeting of people for the purposes of entertainment is sickening. This is not who we are. We're better than this. We spoke with the cardinals in the nation's capital. It was a wide-ranging conversation in which they told us Pope Leo inspired them to weigh in on political issues. including the administration's mass deportation efforts. This past January, Cardinal Tobin called Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, a lawless organization. Cardinal, those are strong words to call ICE a lawless organization.

12:21Why did you do that? I didn't say that they were people without law. But when people act in this way, when they have to hide their identities to terrify people, when they can actually violate other guarantees of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Well, I think somebody's got to call that out, and I'm not the only one. Conor McElroy, we are speaking in a church here in Washington, D.C., that serves a largely immigrant population. The pastor asked us not to share or publicize this parish name or location. What's he worried about? He's worried for his people. They live under fear, and thus our mass count within the Spanish masses in our archdiocese went down 30 percent from the year before.

13:1430 percent, that's a lot. And it's all fear. Before he became Archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Robert McElroy served as the Bishop of San Diego, one of the busiest stretches of the southern border for illegal crossings. I feel it got to a point where it was getting out of control. Under Biden? Under Biden, yes. You believe in strong borders? Yes. So what's wrong then with the current policy? This is a roundup of people throughout the country, people who have been living good, strong lives, been here a long time, raised their children here, made their children born here, and are citizens. That's what our objection is.

13:56But this was discussed during the campaign. It was widely discussed. And yet President Trump won the Catholic vote over Kamala Harris handily, 55 to 43 percent. He promised to secure the border. He talked about deportation. And a majority of Catholics voted for the policy. I would like to know what Catholics feel about this indiscriminate mass deportation. I think that it's very clear the American people are saying, we really didn't vote for this. What do you say to people in the pews who say, I don't want to hear politics from my priest? I say, fine. I want to preach the gospel. God wants us to promote peace in the world because his desire is that we be one human family.

14:45What we're seeing as pastors is an enormous, profound level of human suffering. And that's what motivates us. We found a sign of what motivates Leo and how his church will care for migrants and the less fortunate in a sacred space 15 miles southeast of Rome. Nearly 2 ,000 years ago, Castel Gandolfo was the villa of a Roman emperor. For the last 400 years, it has been the Pope's summer home. Leo's predecessor, Pope Francis, enlisted Father Manny Durantes, a priest from Chicago and an immigrant to the U.S. himself, to help open it up to the world.

15:31Cardinal Joseph Tobin:I think Pope Leo wants to make the dream of Pope Francis a reality. After we explained the whole vision and talked with him, he said to us, full force ahead, Father Manny. This is the spiritual heart of Borgo Laudato Si and this entire space. That vision is an innovative new project centered around migrants and locals in need, participating in the Vatican's first job training center. They're teaching sustainable farming, gardening and cooking at the same estate where Pope Leo comes to rest every week. How many migrants are you talking about that may be part of this job training program? Between migrants and people in vulnerability, our goal is to be able to at least train about a thousand people, you know, per year.

16:16That doesn't sound like a big number, but ultimately it's a model of how if every church did something like this, every diocese, we have 6 ,000 of them. You know, that's a lot of people we could train in a year. My name is Ali Amdiyamin. I'm from Bangladesh. My name is Nermin from Syria. We met the first graduating class of chefs in training that included refugees and migrants from around the world. One was a young man from West Africa who survived the dangerous journey by sea to the Italian island of Lampedusa in the Mediterranean, where tens of thousands of migrants have drowned. Pope Leo will spend July 4th in Lampedusa, Italy, a site where tens of thousands of migrants land on their way to Europe every year.

17:07It's America's 250th birthday. Do you think the Holy Father is sending a message, Cardinal, with that visit? He's sending a message that his top priority right now is to be with those who are downcast and marginalized. Coincidence that he's going there on July 4th? I know at least one member of my archdiocese that would be happy, and she's green, and she's on a little island that belongs to New Jersey, and is technically part of the Archdiocese of Newark. And she's holding up a torch, and she's reading from a scroll, and it says, welcome. Good morning. Happy Easter. So far in 2026, the Catholic Church in the U.S.

17:54has welcomed the largest number of converts in recent years. In Cardinal Tobin's archdiocese, there's an all-time high of new people joining the church. Cardinal Tobin, do you think that surge in interest and attendance has something to do with Pope Leo? Yes, I do. I've had the privilege of working closely with four popes. very different people in a lot of ways but each one in some way was the right one for that moment in time i believe that pope leo is the right man at this time

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20:08Hey parents, we all know summer break is for fun, but it's also a time when kids can start losing some of the progress they made during the school year. We want them to stay engaged and keep those young minds active. Between camps, vacations, and family time, it can be tough to keep a learning routine going. That's why I want to tell you about IXL. IXL is an award-winning online learning platform that helps kids truly understand what they're learning. Whether they're building math confidence, strengthening reading and writing skills, or reviewing science concepts, from pre-K through 12th grade, IXL offers personalized interactive learning that adapts to each child's level and pace.

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22:27Our reporting focused on Super Ego Holding, a network of commercial trucking and leasing companies based in Serbia and the U.S. It's currently under federal investigation and named in a class-action lawsuit. Regulators and former employees call it one of the most notorious chameleon schemes, a ticking time bomb on our nation's roadways. Chameleon carriers are basically a network of companies, and they constantly reincarnate. And the idea is we are revenue-focused. We are going to start this trucking company. We are going to run it into the ground, just make as much money as we possibly can. Rob Carpenter has been a trucker for 25 years.

23:14He now is a trucking safety consultant and has been tracking chameleon companies, which have surged since the pandemic. Chameleon carriers, as their name suggests, are commercial trucking operations that skirt federal regulations and escape bad safety records by changing company names to evade detection. And when you move on to the next, you're really doing that to try to abandon the history that you've created with that other trucking company because you've run so poorly in the past year, right? So then you just adopt a new identity and you move on to a new carrier. Just dissolve that company and slap a new name on the truck and move on.

23:52You can see how easy it is in this undercover video shot by another trucker. Same drivers, same trucks, same bad records. In this case, hundreds of violations erased with the switch of a carrier name and Department of Transportation number, the federal ID used to track a carrier's safety history. You've got no violations. You've got no crashes. Things that people are going to look at and scrutinize on whether they're going to let you haul their freight or not don't exist. You're just a clean carrier to them. Networks, often owned and operated from Eastern Europe, India, and Central Asia, set up chameleon carriers in the U.S.

24:30with different names and owners, who then register with the Department of Transportation, secure minimal insurance. And within 21 days, you have a trucking company. That's all it takes. That's all it takes. There's no requirement to own a trucking company that you be an American. You can start it from anywhere in the world. Thousand bucks, pay online, say you are who you say you are, and you've got a trucking company. Do you have any idea how many of them there are? You've got 700 ,000 trucking companies. Let's just say the general estimate is 10 to 20 % are operating somewhere in that spectrum of chameleon carrier.

25:07Thousands of trucking companies. That's mind-blowing. Yeah. Thousands of trucking companies racking up thousands of safety violations, poor maintenance, excessive driving hours, drug and alcohol use, all while evading federal enforcement. How dangerous is this? We're having crashes all the time. So you've got 260 million other Americans on the highway sharing it with 700 ,000 trucking companies. You have a moral, ethical responsibility to share the road safely with those people. But when you've got 10 to 20 percent that are not doing that, that's an issue. An issue that contributed to the more than 5 ,300 truck-related deaths in 2024.

25:48According to data gathered by Fusible, a risk assessment firm, chameleon carriers are four times more likely to be involved in a crash like this. The culprit in this case? A tractor-trailer tied to a network called Super Ego Holding. Its driver was going 72 miles an hour when it plowed into this school bus, critically injuring two children. According to DOT data, chameleon carriers connected to Super Ego have logged almost 15 ,000 safety violations and 500 accidents in the last two years. Today, there are only 350 investigators at the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, or FMCSA, overseeing all 700 ,000 trucking companies on our roads.

26:41Those numbers just seem out of whack. We are actively trying to find ways that we can do investigations more efficiently, more effectively. Derek Barge took over as administrator of FMCSA in October. This past year, regulators cracked down on foreign commercial truck drivers and fraudulent commercial driving schools and have vowed to take on chameleon carriers. Do you have the personnel and the resources you need? We have additional 40 investigators that we're trying to hire today. We have a new registration system that we will be rolling out this year. The system we have currently is like 40 years old.

27:23I mean, you've got these rogue companies. They rack up tons of safety violations. They're a federally regulated industry. How is that possible? We have a front door problem, meaning we need to stop this before they actually get into the system. Are you familiar with the chameleon carrier company Super Ego? Are they on your radar? They're a part of an ongoing investigation. We have prioritized companies who, through our data gathering, that are our top ten companies that we need to be investigating. We reached out to SuperEgo. Company lawyers told us it's a leasing company, not a trucking firm, and that it's not responsible for the actions of affiliated carriers and drivers.

28:09But according to our investigation and court documents, that's not the whole story. Under the superego umbrella that stretches from Serbia to the U.S. is a vast network of separate but coordinated companies that provide brokers who book deliveries, dispatchers, and leases for tractors and trailers. Subsidiaries operate the trucks and hire drivers, like Daniel Sanchez, under lease-to-own contracts. I see how much they don't care about you. They literally don't care about any other driver on the road at all. Daniel Sanchez had been driving commercial rigs for eight years when he was recruited by Super Ego in 2025.