In short
Sibling fighting during summer—how to decide when to intervene, how to avoid escalating fights, and how to teach conflict-repair skills so siblings can disagree without hurting each other.
Guests
Kristen and Dina, child behavior experts, moms, and co-founders of Big Little Feelings.
Guest backgrounds
They run Big Little Feelings (parenting/behavior education) and present themselves as “child behavior experts” focused on social-emotional skill building and coaching parents through real-life moments.
Key claims
Sibling squabbling is normal and is a practice arena for learning conflict skills. Parents should step in immediately when things are unsafe, repeatedly targeted, physically aggressive, or cruel; otherwise, stay neutral and pause rather than “investigate” who started it. Teaching should happen after kids calm down, not during emotional escalation. Forced apologies don’t work; empower kids to generate solutions.
Notable examples
“unicycle/motorcycle” argument that resolved when parents stayed out; “cozy earth bubble cuddle blanket” used as a family ritual; “10-minute miracle” one-on-one time to reduce rivalry.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUnderstanding Sibling Rivalry
0:45 to 6:00
Exploration of the normalcy of sibling fighting and its triggers during summer.
“So without further ado, let's dive in, friends.”
Personal Experiences with Sibling Fights
6:00 to 10:00
Hosts share their personal experiences and feelings about their children's fights.
“OK, we have like two best friends and then like they have a little baby and they love their little baby because the boy, the youngest, is like four years younger.”
Learning Through Conflict
10:00 to 15:12
Discussion on how sibling fights help children develop important life skills.
“This is actually the relationship where they learn how to handle conflict and do repair and handle turn taking and frustration tolerance as annoying as it is to us parents who hear them squabbling and fighting.”
Navigating Sibling Conflicts
18:57 to 22:11
Strategies for managing sibling fights and when to step in as a parent.
“What happens when that doesn't end in a friendly way?”
Effective Conflict Resolution Techniques
22:13 to 28:00
Understanding how to guide kids through disagreements and promote healthy interactions.
“And on that note, I think one thing a lot of us accidentally do, probably carrying it on from our own childhood, is just playing detective.”
Empowering Kids in Conflict Resolution
28:00 to 29:52
Learn how to empower children to resolve conflicts themselves effectively.
“Like pausing and kind of guiding them towards like, what do you think?”
Creating a Cozy Home Environment
29:52 to 31:41
Discover the importance of a cozy home and how it can enhance family connections.
“I know if we could try to use it in a positive way to build skills, that's where we'll kind of get ourselves further.”
Creating a Cozy Home Environment
31:47 to 33:18
Discover the importance of a cozy home and how it can enhance family connections.
“let them know that you heard about Cozy Earth from us.”
Teaching Conflict Resolution Skills
36:56 to 38:43
Learn how to teach kids essential skills for resolving conflicts effectively.
“Once everyone's safe, once they have been separated and everyone's starting to settle down, that's when their brain can take in new information and build new skills.”
Strategies to Minimize Sibling Fights
38:43 to 42:01
Explore effective strategies to reduce sibling rivalry and promote harmony.
“OK, so we've talked a ton about normalizing sibling fights, how it happens to all of us.”
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Catching Cooperation: The Key to Positive Behavior
42:01 to 43:13
Learn how to notice and encourage cooperative behaviors among siblings.
“That can make such a difference in behaviors.”
The Importance of Teamwork and Conflict Resolution
43:14 to 45:24
Understand the significance of teaching conflict resolution and teamwork to siblings.
“as we head to the end of this episode, we have covered so much already.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Kristin:The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello, friends. Welcome back to After Bedtime. And today we are diving into sibling fighting. The nonstop bickering, tattling, arguing, screaming and mom, that's probably echoing through your house all summer long. It's happening in ours. If you are exhausted from playing referee and wondering whether you're supposed to intervene or just ignore it or separate them, punish them, move into a hotel alone, you are in the right place. By the end of this episode, you will have a clear roadmap for what to do in the moment, how to prevent some of the fighting before it even starts, and how to raise siblings who can handle conflict without hurting each other, which is the main goal.
0:48Kristin:So without further ado, let's dive in, friends.
0:53Deena:Welcome to After Bedtime, where the house is finally quiet, but the real noise begins. the thoughts, the questions, the wondering if you're doing any of this right.
1:03Kristin:We're Kristen and Dina, child behavior experts, moms, and co-founders of Big Little Feelings. And we're not here to give you more pressure or perfect parenting energy. Nope.
1:13Deena:We're here to tell the truth, the unfiltered, beautiful, brutal truth about what it means to raise kids and re-raise ourselves in the process.
1:22Kristin:Because parenting isn't just about sleep schedules and snack hacks. It's about healing. It's about breaking cycles. It's about becoming the kind of adult you want your kids to grow up to be.
1:32Deena:This is the place where we say the quiet parts out loud. And we're so glad that you're here. Kristen, I have a little surprise for you. Oh, I'm so excited. Look at this. What is it? What? Oh, you got youth sunglasses. Is this a catch up? I can barely see you. Can I see your full face? Because this is important.
1:50Kristin:Can you see now? Oh, they look great.
1:52Deena:Do they? I feel uncomfortable. They're tiny. Where did you get them?
1:58Kristin:online. Okay.
1:59Deena:Is that like a knockoff store or is that like a real deal? Is that like a real deal place? That my friend is mostly for prescription glasses.
2:07Kristin:So I have to have prescription in my
2:10Deena:sunglasses. Did you put prescriptions in those youth? Sorry, besties. When we say youth sunglasses, we mean like really small skinny sunglasses. Dina's trying it for the first time right now.
2:21Kristin:Right. I'm channeling like a Bella Hadid.
2:24Deena:It's like a Haley Bieber. Yeah. Are there prescriptions in those right now? Absolutely.
2:29Kristin:So you committed? I committed. Look at this. These aren't the big millennial glasses, you know? Yeah. I think they look amazing. Thank you. What do you think? I'm still getting used to it. I feel weird. My middle kid saw me and he goes, Mama, why do you have those on? What is that? I was like, that's kind of how I feel right now.
2:50Deena:I feel like you are a sunglass person who needs the light to be blocked though that's why i'm working for you no no these sunglasses they block the light but kristen what's new in your world what you prepared that that was a script that was scripted never been asked that before did i get the timing wrong like a little bit but like not enough to be just like kristen what's what's new in your world oh whenever i go to a wedding that's
3:24Kristin:what I practice. So when people, they always come talk and then there's a natural pause and then I go, so what's new in your world? That's good, right? Yeah, it keeps the conversation going.
3:36Deena:You feel like you don't get it right?
3:38Kristin:No, it's perfect. It works.
3:43Deena:What's new in my world? Absolutely nothing since the last podcast. I live, eat and breathe, all-star softball and not much more, but then also like end of the year activities still. So it's like, you know, the pool party and then like the Girl Scout ceremony and then end of your performance and then an acting performance and then back to all stars six days a week. So I have nothing.
4:06Kristin:All right, friends, if you have multiple kids, you know exactly what we're talking about because you have been home for approximately 12 seconds and somehow someone has already been screaming. Someone got called a poop face. Someone got hit with a pool noodle. Someone's crying because their brother looked at them. You know how it goes. We are all going through it in our homes right now. Right, Kristen? I'm sure that was your morning.
4:29Deena:Literally. I mean, not yet, but yes, I will be.
4:32Kristin:And that's because summer creates literally like the perfect storm. There's just less structure. So school, right, provides like a separation, a predictability. That's gone. That's wiped out. We've got more proximity, aka your kids are together all day long. Mine are at home right now, which is why I'm recording this podcast in my car, which is a really great silent recording studio, if you will. And then there's just like more competition, right? They've got like attention and toys and they're crunched in the same space and they've got friends and activities going on. So there's just more general like dysregulation happening at home with later bedtimes and we're traveling and they're eating all different things and it's hot out.
5:16Kristin:There's less routine. I mean, like this truly is the perfect recipe for more sibling squabbles and fighting all day long. Now, I hate to say it to you. Sibling squabbling is really normal. Like they all do it. Yes, there are things we can do to minimize it and prevent it. And you're going to see it's all about teaching them the right skills. But like this is going to happen in everyone's household. And it's one of those things where you're not seeing this online. You're not seeing people talk about it, but they're all going through it.
5:47Deena:I think that's so true. I think that's like as somebody who has three kids and the fighting is out of control, I'll be honest, like there was a long period of time where it was like, OK, we have like two best friends and then like they have a little baby and they love their little baby because the boy, the youngest, is like four years younger. And of course, they still fought. But I think we're at peak fighting right now. Like we're entering the tween years. The baby is not a baby anymore. He is wild. He is a boy. Like we're at peak fighting. And so even for me, even though I know, I know when I take a step back or I see other siblings fight, I'm like, do you guys remember just like annihilating your siblings when you were younger?
6:38Deena:And by that, I mean being annihilated because I was the youngest. my sister would punch the wall next to my face, like punch it, like sometimes breaking the wall. It was nonstop, let alone all of the, you know, the jeans and the tops and taking clothes and stuff. So I know that it is so normal. And yet I can't help but have my blood pressure just rise every single time. And the thing that I always just spit out and I'm just like, stop fighting, Just stop. Stop fighting. And I know it's the most unhelpful thing I could possibly do. But it's like, I don't, it's not even that I care that they're fighting because I know it's normal.
7:19Deena:I want the noise to stop. Does that make sense, Tina? Yeah. Just like, just, oh my God. It's like a tantrum doesn't do it for me as much. I can handle like one singular child freaking out. But for some reason, the echoing and the escalating of fights is the thing that makes me be like, just stop, guys. Just stop.
7:39Kristin:Absolutely. Because it's very just like biologically triggering, I feel like. There's the whining. There's the escalation moment. It gets high pitch. It's like back and forth. It feels like chaos. So yeah, I completely agree. Mine are five, four and nine months. So I have kind of like a different version going in my house right now, which is a little bit more like fighting over toys, pushing, hitting when they're frustrated or they need space. and now now baby's crawling so it's like baby comes over takes the car off the track they're playing with and they're like no baby you know I've got that going on yep been there I've been there okay Kristen though this is gonna sound weird maybe to people who don't watch a lot of animal documentaries and I watch them every single day so this sounds very reasonable to me okay
8:31Deena:but it actually makes a lot of sense hold on hold on Dina can you repeat what you just said are you sorry i just i need a moment so whatever you're about to say you've gathered from nature like a nat geo documentary about animals in the wild like africa basically yeah like well
8:58Kristin:not just africa i mean like all over the world anywhere just right now i'm watching something about nighttime animals. If you're curious, I just finished one about dinos. Okay. Carry on. It's normal.
9:12Deena:What comes to my brain is just like a cheetah ripping apart, you know, a bloodied carcass. But go ahead. Like, that's what comes to my mind when I even think of now sibling fights. So please, please enlighten me.
9:25Kristin:You're actually really close to what I'm about to say. So great job, Kristen. Very intuitive. What I was going to tell you is that as crazy as it sounds, you are an animal. Don't forget that, Kristen. But these like baby cheetahs. OK, that's where I was headed. Baby cheetahs actually practice in their relationship how to deal with things. They learn their skills. They learn how to like wrestle, how to fight, but also boundaries and what's appropriate, what's not within their little cheetah baby relationship. And that's kind of how our siblings are. This is actually the relationship where they learn how to handle conflict and do repair and handle turn taking and frustration tolerance as annoying as it is to us parents who hear them squabbling and fighting.
10:16Deena:I'm just picturing the cheetah like over the thing and then one of the cheetah like slaps the other cheetahs in the face, you know, like get away from that warthog. That's my warthog.
10:24Kristin:Okay, great.
10:26Deena:That's pretty much it.
10:27Kristin:They just, the babies practice like wrestling around and biting each other so that they know how to eventually like go out and hunt when they have to. Okay, continue.
10:40Kristin:My point is the sibling relationship is that it's your little baby cubs learning how to, you know, build the right skills to deal with life eventually and other relationships. and this is how it evolves. And we actually as parents, Kristen, stop laughing. I can see you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We as parents get to help them build the skills and that's what we're going to start to talk about today.
11:10Deena:I'm sure that. Okay. Sure. continue.
11:18I don't know.
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11:19Deena:I don't know. I'm just like picturing my children like with blood all over their mouths and like in the wild now. I don't I'm not seeing the translation. I know there is one. I get it. You know, I get it. I get it. It's like a primal. You need to go watch the documentaries. I'm watching the Barack Obama one, but it's the ocean one. So you might have to shift to whales. I don't know. Continue. I get it. I really do. It's like we are all biological beings. That's why like even our kids are throwing things or hitting like these are urges. We're not just perfect human specimens that that don't have to go through things and have urges in order to figure things out.
12:00Deena:Like there's a reason for the urges. There's a reason for the hitting. There's a reason for the screaming. It's so that they can learn how to exist in this world. And this is practice for when they go into the world. They're not right now supposed to be ready in the real world. This is like the arena, the practice. I get it. I get it. I love it. That's right. Okay.
12:23Kristin:Did you? Do you, though? I do, though. Okay. Moving on.
12:28Deena:The more I think about it, I do. I just, I had a, like, original block because I think I just got excited about the cheetahs. Okay.
12:33Kristin:Your babies don't have blood on their face. They're just wrestling each other to practice. Anyways, I think the question that all of us as parents who have all of this going on in our house and we're frankly like very irritated by it because it is irritating. We just want to know like when do you jump in? When do you stay out? So first, we're going to start there. We can actually stay out when it's annoying and they're arguing and they're negotiating and they're trying to work it out and they're disagreeing. we actually I think can stay out of it a lot more the time than we think we can and I'm having a flashback to when my kids were really little and I swear for like five minutes they went back and forth being like this unicycle no motorcycle unicycle no motorcycle and I was like what the hell are we even talking about guys and I just kind of let them go and eventually they stopped And I swear to God, later that day, we saw a unicycle that was motorized and it felt like a sign from the universe.
13:35Kristin:But that is a tangent.
13:43Deena:Did you know that you can get a pass to hotels around you and use their pool? What I'm about to tell you is you can also use their spa and other things. But I have been using resort pass religiously. And by that, I mean, for example, right now I am sitting in my car. This is not an exaggeration. This is not a joke. I am sitting in my car in a towel on a solo pool recharge day. I told my husband, I just need one day by a pool by myself. Yes, it feels over the top. It feels like moms shouldn't do this. I do this once a month. I go to a pool at a nearby hotel by myself. So here's the concept of Resort Pass.
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15:52Deena:Or if you're more like my husband and my oldest, you can go on a foodie tour, listen to live music every night, or focus on you with endless ways to indulge in self-care. However you want to stay, you'll find your place at the beach. Accommodations range from cozy hotels to beachfront rentals and resorts right on the ocean. And there are endless things to do, including hundreds of attractions. Go shopping, enjoy some classic theme park fun, or dive into water sports like paddleboarding and jet skiing. There are fun events and festivals happening year-round. Check the website for schedules. This summer, I am letting go my friend.
16:30Deena:I feel like online there is this war of like 90s summer. And this was last year, too, where it's like, I'm going to give my kids a 90s summer and they're just going to go play with sticks and play with water outside and, you know, whatever and occupy themselves. And then there's this backlash of people being like, I have to work and my kids have to go to camp. Guys, y 'all, like none of us know what we're doing over the summer. we're all just like working living trying our best i'm having a try my best summer and this summer i'm going to myrtle beach because i want to completely unwind myrtle beach is where i'm gonna put my phone down i am going to be with my family completely i am not doing any work i am not winging it and juggling it all i'm actually just gonna spend all of my time with my family maybe be book one spa day by myself if I'm being really, really honest and just kind of live that nostalgic feeling of being, I don't know, at the beach, but also at a rental house.
17:37Deena:And it just feels like it's going to be so much fun. I feel like it's the best place for families, by the way, Myrtle Beach, because sometimes you go on vacations and you're like, oh, man, this would have been a really, really good trip for me as an early 20 year old, but perhaps not the best for me with three children. Do you know what I mean? I don't know if you've ever had any of those, but it's like the older my kids get, meaning the more experience I have as a mom, I'm realizing that it doesn't really matter where you go. Like when I was pregnant, I thought I was the kind that was going to be picking up my kid and like taking them to Paris or whatever.
18:17Deena:And what I've learned is that if you pick a place that is really family friendly, but also has a bunch of other families there, your kids are going to have the best time. And if your kids are having the best time, you're having the best time. Like there is entertainment, but there is downtime, but also your kids can run around and they can make friends and it's really safe. And it's just an environment that is made for kids and families. That's what I'm looking for in my vacations these days and Myrtle Beach is doing it for me this summer. You belong at the beach, Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
18:51Deena:Plan the best family vacation ever at visitmyrtlebeach.com. What happens when that doesn't end in a friendly way? Like I hear you and I'm not good at this, just for the record of all the besties. And I'm I've got really good things for me. Like I am a pretty calm mom. Everybody knows kind of what my strengths are. OK. And this is not one of my strengths. I'm just going to be really honest. I don't know why or how. I wouldn't say I'm terrible. Like I'm not shaming anybody. I'm not like, you know, taking one of the kids. It's just that I'm just not doing the quote unquote right things. I am just being like, guys, stop.
19:28Deena:Just stop. Just stop fighting for five seconds. Can we just have five seconds of peace? I'm totally that mom. So So tell me, because I am on and I am with you where it's like, OK, you guys are just going back and forth. It's annoying the shit out of me. But like, fine. You just cycle motorcycle. You know, what happens, though, when then it's like beyond escalation and now they're just like, yeah, no, no, no, no motorcycle. And you get to that point. So answer me that question. Then, of course, I know the answer already where they start then hitting each other, which is exactly what's happening in my household.
20:06Deena:It gets physical. But what about the point right before it where it's just like now we're at the peak right before they're about to probably beat the shit out of each other?
20:17Kristin:Exactly. Okay. So when can we step in?
20:20Deena:Yeah.
20:20Kristin:Well, I'm just going to start with our list because it is like obviously number one when things are unsafe. Okay. We're immediately stepping in. But you're saying, too, there is this moment where it's escalated so far that it's gone to the next level. And we can step in and pause everything and be like, hey, guys, things are getting really big. We're going to pause here. And it's OK to be that confident leader who kind of stops the action at a certain point. Or you could also like let them keep going if it's not unsafe. Like I'll put in some earplugs and I'll be like, you guys are going to figure this out and I'm going to take care of my nervous system.
21:00Kristin:But back to when to step in, because I think this is actually really important to just make very concrete. if someone is being repeatedly targeted, you've got a power imbalance or there's physical aggression or cruelty going on. That is where we do not question. We do not ask them to stop. We are going to step in and keep children safe, period.
21:25Deena:I do think that we parents step in too soon. I'm putting myself in that we step in way too soon and I think it's doing our kids a disservice because I do think sometimes they might be able to resolve it they really might and it feels like they're never going to however the more we I feel like long term the less they're even able to ever resolve it because they're just so used to us like stepping in they're so used to us ripping them apart and we're not giving them that opportunity. And the more often we give them the opportunity, it's like the more the more, you know, and we're just doing a disservice by by stepping in so early.
22:10Deena:Right.
22:10Kristin:That is one piece of it for sure. And on that note, I think one thing a lot of us accidentally do, probably carrying it on from our own childhood, is just playing detective. Like you jump in there and you're kind of like the judge, jury, crime scene investigator. You're like, who started it? Who touched it first? Who had it? Who said what? Like we're jumping in there as a referee being like, OK, you need to give it back. Your time is done. You shouldn't have done that. You hit him. You're out. You know, like we're jumping in and trying to control the whole situation. And that can actually backfire for our kids a lot of times, too.
22:49Kristin:When we're coming in hot like that, we accidentally start targeting one kid we're blaming a kid more than the other a lot of times we're jumping to assumptions that actually doesn't help them and a lot of times it can make
23:02Deena:the fighting overall a lot more intense i will say i also think as your kids get older the truth doesn't always come out by the way so then it makes this weird unhealthy dynamic where like Like the kid who is in power at the moment, it's always shifting or maybe it's not in your household. But like the kid who is in power can somehow intimidate the other kid. This isn't happening in my own house, but I see it like in other families where they're like intimidating the other kids, like not tell the truth. And so when, you know, the parent is over there and it's like, well, who started and who did it?
23:36Deena:And like, it's just it can it can turn into such a snowball. And it it doesn't really matter, actually. It doesn't really matter any of the details. My husband, God bless him. I love him. But he's such a details man. Like anything that happens in life, it's like, tell me the who, the why, the where, what's underneath it, what happened next. And then we're going to we're going to talk about it again. I need to understand every detail. It actually doesn't matter. Like the only time we are stepping in is when it gets to a point where it is physical or harmful, emotionally harmful, physically harmful.
24:15Deena:We're going to separate. We're going to cool down. We're going to get back to baseline, however we can get it. And then probably where you're going to get into, Dina, is what you do after, which is where the skills are built. But there are no skills being built by dissecting the who, what, where, why this problem child. And then the other part of this I will mention, too. Some kids have a need to a biological need inside of them to just kind of cause trouble. That's what I'll say it broadly. Now, that's our perspective as parents when I say cause trouble. The little ADHD kid in me wants to say just like, can't help it.
24:58Deena:a lack of impulse control. By the way, for kids with ADHD, if they go and they smack the shit out of their brother, they're getting a dopamine rush. Of course, they're going to go and try to cause conflict. Suddenly you're in this scenario where you have two kids or three kids or four kids, and this kid is usually the problem kid. And when that kid is usually the problem kid, and we're getting into the how and the why and the who, that kid is receiving what research says up to 10 ,000 more negative comments by the time they reach age 10. And so just for so many reasons in the moment of the sibling fight, it's like go in purely as a, is this unsafe?
25:46Deena:I'm separating them. Is this emotionally unsafe? I'm separating them.
25:50Kristin:Then we're going to talk to them. Then we're going to problem solve. Agree. The more neutral we can stay, the better. Because when we come in super hot trying to like figure out the who, we accidentally kind of pit them against each other a lot of times, too. And it makes it just all escalate more. And I'm so glad you got into the brain stuff, because no matter what, when your kids have emotionally escalated to this point where it's about to get aggressive or they are just so far gone in the argument emotionally, like we're 11 out of 10 emotions, their brain is not in a place where they can problem solve anymore.
26:27Kristin:They actually need a pause so that they can get other more critical thinking parts of their brain back in use, back online. And that's where creating this pause and us stepping in can help in those moments.
26:45Deena:And what I really like to say in those moments to just keep it like concise, almost as a broken record, because everybody else is all over the place. Their amygdala are just like splattered. And there's so many voices coming at me like, well, he hit me first and he did this or whatever. And that's what's coming at you. And it's like my my go to is I'm not figuring out who started it. I'm helping keep everyone safe. And I'm kind of just repeat that the calmest that I can while literally separating them. And that's it. And that way it doesn't. What I don't want to do is come in to the fire and then be adding fuel to the fire.
27:22Deena:And we're all going up and up and up and up. I'm watching all of these kids go up. I'm coming down. I'm using less words. I'm repeating the words and I'm doing my actions to get everybody safe so they can come back down too.
27:36Kristin:Exactly. And so I like to think of myself not as a referee who's blowing a whistle and saying like, you ball over here, like step out of bounds, throw the ball. You know, it's like dictating all the moves that are happening. Think of yourself more as a coach, right? Or more as like a very neutral narrator to the situation. And it could sound something like, like, okay, whoa, we've all got really upset feelings right now. We're going to pause. I know you guys can figure it out. What are some ideas? Like pausing and kind of guiding them towards like, what do you think? Which by the way, kids, when you give them that power, they respond a lot better than telling them what to do.
28:19Kristin:If you're kind of like, hey, like, what are you guys going to do here. A lot of times they respond so much better. They'll come up with ideas like it's kind of shocking to see.
28:30Deena:And I feel like the opposite almost never works where it's like, Jimmy, say sorry. And they're like, sorry. And then the other one's like sticking their tongue out because it's just forced, you know, when you empower the kid to be like, hey, Jimmy, you had the ball. Rachel, you really wanted the ball. I see two kids that are sad about the ball. What can we do together? And oftentimes they'll look at each other instead of us and be like, well, I don't know. Like, do you want? Then they figure it out a lot of the times. It's pretty shocking.
29:04Kristin:I'm laughing because I've never heard a sorry in my house. My kids literally scream sorry. If they're told to do that, that's literally how it would come out like sorry. They're yelling at each other. I'm like, OK, yeah, that's why we try not to do the forced apology thing, because like Like, it will never work. We'll get into repair because that's important, too.
29:25Deena:Never a forced apology. Mine is more like they'll go, sorry, in front of us. And then the second someone turns around, then they're sticking their tongues out and doing like making fun of each other. And it's like, guys. And so it just never works. Like, it's just never it's never the right thing to do.
29:42Kristin:I mean, basically, when it comes down to sibling battles, we can't stop them from having conflict. I think that's one thing that we will just all be better off if we fully embrace it. This is part of the journey. It sucks. I know if we could try to use it in a positive way to build skills, that's where we'll kind of get ourselves further. And I think some of the key things to keep in mind is kind of like these foundational perspectives where it's like it's OK to feel upset with each other and we don't hurt each other when we're mad. Right. It's like teaching them how to safely work through conflict really is the only goal.
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33:34Kristin:Guys, more and more, I'm convinced that my kids believe rugs are not part of the house, but that they're part of like an activity. Like a place to conduct science experiments, a place to spill smoothies, a place to test whether yogurt can be paint. You know what I'm talking about? Okay, this is why I love tumble rugs. Now, the first thing that sold me was that they're spill proof. Liquids literally beat up on top of the rug instead of soaking into it. So you can actually just wipe it all away before it becomes a whole situation, which is great because I currently have three children and approximately zero spare time for scrubbing rugs on my hands and knees.
34:10Kristin:But the real magic is that they're machine washable. And when life inevitably happens, you just remove the rug from its pad, you toss it in the washing machine, and move on with your life. You don't have to do the whole carpet cleaner rental or like standing over the stain just scrubbing away being like, please come out. And unlike a lot of washable rugs, these are actually really beautiful. Ours looks like a designer rug. And I also love that they are OEKO tech certified, so they're safe for kids and pets and all the little humans rolling around on the floor. Honestly, Tumble was one of those products where after we got one, I immediately understood why so many families are obsessed.
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36:44Kristin:That's 20 % off any additional pairs when you purchase one pair at w-a-r-b-y parker.com slash blf. Okay, so then, by the way, when their brains have settled down, because we talked about when kids are emotionally escalated, their brains are not in a place where they can learn new skills. Once everyone's safe, once they have been separated and everyone's starting to settle down, that's when their brain can take in new information and build new skills. And sharing, turn-taking, negotiating, handling disappointment, asking to join a game, I mean, solving conflicts without hitting, these aren't things that kids just magically know how to do.
37:28Kristin:They're social skills. And like any skill, they have to be taught and practice and they'll mess up and they keep practicing until they eventually get it as they grow. Now, the catch? The best time to teach them isn't in the middle of that toy tug of war when everyone's crying and someone just got shoved. A dysregulated brain is not a learning brain. So instead, we teach these skills during calm moments through role play, practice. We can model the words. And what does it actually sound like for those of us who didn't grow up in a home where the tools were actually modeled to us? It sounds like this.
38:05Kristin:Can I have a turn when you're done? Do you want to trade? Can we play together? I'm still using this. I'll let you know when I'm finished. I don't like that. Please stop. Give them the words. Teach them the skills that they're currently missing so that they can start using it for next time. That way, when conflicts happen in real life, your job becomes coaching and reminding, not expecting your kid to somehow know skills that they've just never been taught. Because honestly, healthy relationships aren't built on forced sharing, right? They're built on communication and problem solving, flexibility, respect.
38:40Kristin:And those are skills that we can teach.
38:43Deena:OK, so we've talked a ton about normalizing sibling fights, how it happens to all of us. We've talked a lot about what to do in the moment. And now the moment you all have been waiting for, we are going to tell you how to have fewer sibling fights overall. This is the part that you're really going to want to listen to. So one way to have fewer fights overall in your house is to make a family identity. And life goes fast, you guys. I've been saying I'd make a family identity since I saw this on Instagram on like one of those really perfect accounts. And they had like a really beautiful Pinterest board type of bulletin board that set it up there.
39:30Deena:I haven't done this yet, but I am dying to do this yet. A family identity, it can be super simple and super easy. It's something like we are a team. OK, and there's a very subtle difference between we are a team versus something like we all have to get along all the time. Not realistic, right? But when you have an identity that is a core family value that somebody can come back to, they're going to take this from zero years all the way through 18 years. Super important.
40:03Kristin:I agree. These are the things that we're going to be repeating even in just daily life because we want it to get programmed into our kids' minds. We are a team. We help each other when someone is struggling. That's something I've been saying over and over recently is, hey, guys, when someone is having a hard time, when someone is hurt or upset, we show up for them. We try to help them and support them. And I feel like I'm starting to see a little shift in it. I love that. Another one that we are constantly repeating that's just great for siblings is something like it's OK to feel upset with each other.
40:38Kristin:And when we're mad, we don't hurt each other. We can solve our problems a different way. I feel like they do need to hear that a lot. And eventually it starts to sink in.
40:48Deena:One way that you can truly eliminate sibling battles almost instantaneously is special one-on-one time. I know we're busy. I know we're busy. But if you've ever done our 10-minute miracle, you know that this works. Like it works almost every single time. And it really is a miracle. This is where you take 10 minutes, okay, with one child. And maybe you have to do it with all the children. Maybe you just have to do it with one children. There's no siblings. There's no phones. There's no iPads. Your kid is picking the activity. You're putting your phone down and you are just focusing on your kid.
41:32Deena:And they can pick anything. They can pick dinosaurs, Legos, doesn't have to be anything huge. But the research is very strong. That perceived competition for parental attention fuels sibling rivalry. And I see this every day in my house. So when I see one particular kid who is acting out or one particular kid who is kind of going more into the victim, like crying a lot, everybody's hurting me a lot. It's a signal. It's a signal to me that they need some more parental, strong, cup-filled. 10-minute miracle.
42:10Kristin:100 percent. That can make such a difference in behaviors. And then I'm going to come in hot with my child therapist hat on, guys. The last thing that a lot of us, it's so easy to do, but you got to intentionally do it, is catch cooperation. inspiration you are going to notice the good stuff and call it out which is hard because a lot of us are kind of doing the like no don't stop thing all day because hi people are jumping off of couches they're breaking things like you know how it goes you have kids but when we can notice the good stuff you're gonna get more good stuff so it's things like whoa like hey you really helped him.
42:51Kristin:Or, wow, I noticed how you said you wanted to turn. That's great. Or things like, guys, that was real teamwork right there. I noticed how you asked for a turn. You gave it to him when you were done. You boys helped each other. Start to notice the times that they're there for each other. They're supporting each other. You will see more of it if you call it out. All right, friends, as we head to the end of this episode, we have covered so much already. But I love a mantra. They keep me grounded. They help me show up as the confident, calm leader that I want to be, especially when I'm going through these sibling squabbles.
43:29Kristin:But this is the vibe we're bringing in. These are things we can remind ourselves. These are things we can say to our kids. We are a team. We take care of each other. It is okay to be upset with each other, and we don't hurt each other when we're mad. Let's think about how to find a solution to this problem. Let's be problem solvers together. We can get through hard things as a team. Okay, that is the vibe. And as you zoom out, here's what I want you to think about. Right now, your kids are little, but one day they're going to be roommates, they're going to be spouses, co-workers, friends. This sibling relationship right now, this is their first practice field.
44:19Kristin:And the goal isn't to have kids who never fight. I'm sorry, that's not realistic. That's just not going to happen. That's not human nature. The goal is to learn how to disagree, to learn how to repair. And true repair isn't about just saying sorry. It's about pausing, owning what happened, owning your actions, noticing how another person feels, and truly making amends together. Everything we've talked about today will help you help them make a true repair. And finally, the goal is to learn how to stay connected through conflict, which so many of us did not have growing up. Nobody showed us this stuff.
45:01Kristin:Nobody did it with us. Nobody repaired with us. So for a lot of us, this stuff feels foreign. But today, everything we went through, this is your summer sibling guide. Use all the tools, keep yourself grounded, and remember their fighting is not a reflection of your parenting. It is normal. So I hope you feel a big sigh of relief now, because you're doing amazing. The fact that you're here, thinking about all these things, thinking about how you're going to show up for your kids, you're amazing. And they are so lucky to have you as their parent. And on that note, if today's episode resonated, but you're also sitting there like, okay, sibling fighting is just one of the 28 behaviors that are currently driving me up the wall.
45:47Well, we've got you.
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46:33Kristin:Our Potty Training Made Simple course is a step-by-step how-to guide for easy, fast potty training. And lastly, we've got our Big Feelers program for highly sensitive kids. You can find all of those on our website at biglittlefeelings.com slash courses. And friends, thank you for being here. I'm so proud of you, and I cannot wait to hang out with you soon again. Kristen, you go to bed, girl. Go get some rest. I am going to go watch off campus because I'm currently obsessed with it still. And friends, I will see you soon.
47:28Kristin:Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.
From the publisher
If your house sounds like a WWE match in a bounce house all summer long... this episode is for you. The arguing. The tattling. The screaming from the other room. The constant feeling that you've spent the last three hours breaking up fights and saying, "GUYS. PLEASE. JUST STOP." Most parents think sibling fighting means something is wrong. What if it's actually one of the most important relationships your child will ever have?
In this episode, Kristin and Deena are giving you the exact roadmap for what to do when your kids won't stop fighting (hello summer) and the surprisingly common parenting mistake that can make sibling conflict even worse.
You'll learn:
- When to step in... and when to stay out of it
- Why playing detective ("Who started it?!") backfires
- What to say in the moment when things are escalating
- The simple shift that helps kids actually solve problems together
- The science-backed way to reduce sibling rivalry before it starts
- How to teach the social skills your kids need for life, not just for summer
By the end of this episode, you'll understand what's really happening beneath the sibling chaos, exactly how to respond, and how to raise kids who can disagree, repair, and stay connected—even when they're driving each other absolutely insane. This isn't just about the summer, it's about creating the groundwork for a lifelong healthy sibling dynamic and closeness.
If you've ever hidden in the pantry eating snacks while your kids scream at each other in the next room... press play immediately. This episode might save your summer.
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