In short
Discussion of Sam Altman’s rumored OpenAI AI device, including claims it will have no screen, feel “calming/peaceful” like a “pebble,” and use always-on listening plus ChatGPT context to filter information and proactively chime in for tasks.
Guests
The episode features two hosts (names not provided in transcript). One host shares personal examples using OpenAI for contract law (real estate) and fixing an air conditioner, and compares the device to “dumb phones,” Meta smart glasses, and prior AI wearables (Rabbit R1; a clip-on recorder that went bankrupt; Bee smartwatch).
Key claims
no-screen form factor; productivity/work focus; requires learning user behavior; raises privacy/security concerns; hype may not match reality.
Notable examples
Meta smart glasses camera/mic/speaker; Caterpillar flip phone screen-time detox; Bee smartwatch transcription limits; “walking through Times Square” analogy.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Mystery of Altman's AI Device
1:13 to 1:59
Discussion on the secrecy surrounding Sam Altman's AI device and its potential features.
“And with all of that, they're going to be coming out with an AI device.”
Exploring the AI Hustle School Community
1:59 to 2:51
Introduction to the AI Hustle School community and the exclusive content available to members.
“But before we do, we wanted to tell you about the AI Hustle School community.”
The Concept of a Screenless Device
2:51 to 4:59
Discussion on the implications of a potential screenless AI device and its focus on productivity.
“All right, let's get into what's going on with Sam Altman.”
Comparing Devices: AI vs. Smart Glasses
4:59 to 7:13
Examining the strengths and weaknesses of different AI devices, including smart glasses.
“Like I mentioned, you could probably do a Google Maps like this.”
Concerns About Always-On Devices
7:13 to 11:11
Discussion surrounding the privacy and functionality concerns of always-on listening devices.
“My imagination on this is that Sam Alton is going to come up with like a little stone or something that you can keep in your pocket and you can talk to it maybe.”
Transcript
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0:39With RSS.com, starting your own is free and easy. Upload an episode and we distribute it to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and hundreds more. Track your listeners, see where they're from, and start earning from ads like this, even with just 10 listeners a month. If you've been thinking about starting a podcast, this is your sign. Start free at rss.com. Today on the podcast, we're talking about Sam Altman, who has been talking about OpenAI's new AI device. There's a lot of mystery. We don't know what's going on. He merged with Johnny Ives' company for, I think, over a billion dollars, if I'm not mistaken on this.
1:18And with all of that, they're going to be coming out with an AI device. Now, this is a tricky place. Sam Altman's been talking a lot about it. He said that the new AI device is going to be more peaceful and calm than the iPhone. So that is, I mean, it's kind of an interesting tidbit. We're going to get into what people are saying about it and some speculations on what this might actually be. What's interesting here, though, is this is coming at a time where basically all of the major AI devices that have come out have flopped in some way or another. People aren't using them. And I was actually testing an AI device just last night on another podcast.
1:52And the reviews on that were not phenomenal either. So we have a lot to talk about when it comes to the devices and wearables. But before we do, we wanted to tell you about the AI Hustle School community. So for those that don't know, every single week, we record an exclusive piece of content. This week, we recorded a video where I showed you some analytics from my own podcast. I've translated my AI chat podcast into multiple languages. I show you the analytics of how many streams other languages get, how much it costs to dub a video into another language, how to have it clone your own voice. Like go into a lot of details on that, which I think is interesting and applicable to a lot of industries.
2:29But beyond that, we have almost 100 videos over there breaking down different tools and tips on how to grow and scale your business with AI. So if you are interested, we have a Black Friday discount right now where you can get access for$19 a month. And there is also an annual plan that is 30 % off of that discounted price. So if you want to go check it out, it is linked in this description. It is the AIA Hustle school community. All right, let's get into what's going on with Sam Altman. I guess, what was your thoughts on the device here? Yeah, so the biggest thing that I was kind of surprised by, at least at first, was that there's going to be no screen on this potential device.
3:08That's kind of like the biggest news, the biggest reveal here. He just, Sam Altman described this as a more calming, calming, peaceful device than compared to like an iPhone. So I think that's a really interesting idea. And in my head, I'm trying to figure out, you know, how all this will work together. But, you know, more and more each day, I find myself using OpenAI's products for different tasks, whether it's contract law with real estate or, you know, how to fix my air conditioner. You know, there's all these different tasks that I use it for. And so I could really see this device being really handy as a way to potentially categorize the different types of things I use ChatGPT for.
3:53And then help me, you know, when I need it, but not necessarily have to pull my phone out during a task. You know, I think there's a lot of trendy dumb phones right now that are coming out. where they basically don't have all the social media distraction type apps. And it's mostly just for function. And I think this is kind of the next level to that, because now if you can have a wearable device that will kind of help you with all your problems, all your different tasks, and then you have just a communication device, that's really all you need if you're trying to maximize productivity in a workday.
4:29So I kind of see this thing being geared towards productivity and working. But Jane, what do you picture this device being used for? What are your thoughts? Yeah. So, I mean, it is interesting. I like your point about like the dumb, the dumb phones. I definitely think there's a huge appeal. I've like researched them very extensively. My wife actually had a like, like Caterpillar, like the tractor company. They have like a flip phone that they've made. It looks like a brick and she wanted to like do a, do a phone detox, screen time detox. And so she used that phone for, I don't want to, I don't want to down talk it was at least six months might have been nine months that she used that phone it was a crazy learning curve though um on like how to do everything it was an android phone i'll say so even though the screen is like this tiny little screen on one half of the flip up like she could get google maps so she could actually use it for like gps and stuff which was hilarious she like have it open in the in the car sitting there on this little screen and it would she just used the audio so it would like talk like turn left at the whatever i don't i usually look i don't use the audio but that's how she did it um anyways she like kind of figured out how to like work her whole life around that and there was zero dopamine i mean i think technically because it was android you could download tiktok or something she didn't but like even if you did there was no dopamine of watching youtube on like five megapixels you know what i mean so you just yeah you just like don't do that it's so frustrating to do almost anything um that you just like really minimize your phone use so i see a major appeal here what's interesting is he said there is no screen i see how you could get around no screen and you can actually do some interesting apps.
6:01Like I mentioned, you could probably do a Google Maps like this. What's interesting is he compares it to the iPhone the most, right? And so it feels like he's trying to replace the iPhone. I'm going to be honest, I think that there's already a device that is crushing in this category, and that's the MetaSmart glasses. I think you're going to be hard pressed to beat that form factor because with the MetaSmart glasses, it has a microphone that can hear you. It has a speaker right next to your ear, you can talk to AI and it will give you responses. And also the camera can see what you're doing. And once they start doing all the superimposing on your screen in front of you, so for directions and stuff, it can display.
6:38I think that is the best form factor for not having to pull out a phone, you could just have it right there. And I know some people are like, oh, no, now your screen is permanently in front of you. I think it's going to be something like if I'm not mistaken, I think it's going to be something like that flip phone where it's not that convenient, like you're not scrolling on TikTok on it, right? It's just kind of augmenting some things you see and useful apps. I know people are concerned about ads showing up on there. I sure hope there's a subscription I can pay to never see an ad forcibly popping up on my glasses.
7:06Or maybe you just pay a lot for the glasses or it's just more AI usage for meta. So I mean, that would be my concern would be ads. But I really think that the glasses is the winning form factor here. My imagination on this is that Sam Alton is going to come up with like a little stone or something that you can keep in your pocket and you can talk to it maybe. And that's probably because this is this is what they said about it. He said, quote, when I use current devices or most applications, I feel like I'm walking through Times Square in New York City and constantly just dealing with all the little indignities along the way, flashing lights in my face, people bumping into me like noises going off.
7:40And it's an unsettling thing. Anyways, so he thinks that like we can create this new no dopamine, no social media app, like world basically with his new device, because I'm thinking like this thing's probably like a little puck, a little chip, and you can talk to it and it can give you information or navigate you somewhere. It could basically just like talk to you, but not give you any sort of visual cue. That's kind of what I'm getting from it. That's interesting. Yeah, that could be something like that. I feel like in order for it to be a really useful device, you're going to have to give all of your device connections and passwords and everything to it so that it can observe you and kind of learn your behavior.
8:19Because that's the other piece is like, if you're actually trying to get work done and use this tool, is going to have to know what your daily tasks are and what you're doing. So how's it going to do that if there's no observational piece to it? I feel like just like if it was only voice activated, it would kind of just be like a fancy Alexa or like a meta smart glasses, like you said. So I feel like there's got to be some kind of, which that's where the security risks maybe would be a concern to me, but there's got to be an observational piece too, where it can kind of learn your behavior and then perform tasks for you.
8:52Similar to a company we talked about a couple weeks ago. I don't know if it was on the Atlas browser or not, but basically you can observe your behavior on your computer and learn your daily tasks. But I don't know. That is a great point. Okay, I think you have an amazing point there, which is that because it's tied into ChatGPT, if you use ChatGPT, it's going to be able to use your memory and context of all your ChatGPT conversations. So actually we'll know a lot more about you just from that. The other thing that it probably will have the microphone on there that just listens to everything you say and do kind of like um friend or i think yeah i think it's friend.com they made like a little necklace that you wear with a microphone that listens to everything you do that didn't do incredibly well there was rabbit that tried to make their r1 device it didn't do incredibly well um of course there was um i'm blanking on the name but there was like the one that you clipped onto your shirt and that whole company went bankrupt basically and sold off um so i mean i can't believe i forgot their name already i mean it just goes to show you go bankrupt and you disappear for everyone's brains but here's an interesting thing i think there's so much hype around sam altman's device i just i fail to see how it's going to live up to the hype but i do like all the hype train but just just get this this is how we described it when someone's like so like can you describe your device he's like um he's like it's gonna be like sitting in the most beautiful cabin by a lake in the mountains and just sort of enjoying the peace and the calm like dude what the heck does that even mean like basically your puck is going to have a speaker and it's going to play you meditation music like okay sure you're not sitting by a mountain in the cabin in the lake like okay anyways I thought that was pretty ridiculous um he said that it should be able to filter out things for users and that you're going to trust ai to do a lot of things over time it's going to be contextually aware about when it's best time to present information to the user and ask for input so essentially it's going to have an always on listening microphone and it's going to like chime in.
10:45So like, if you're working on something, or you're talking to someone, it's gonna like chime in and be like, Oh, don't forget as well. Like if we're having this conversation right now, and I forgot the name of the clip on company, which now I'm literally going crazy, but like, I forget the name of that. It probably would just like chime from my pocket and be like, Oh, the name of the company you're forgetting is blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, Alright, thanks. And just move on with my life. I'm assuming it's going to be like, sort of useful like that. But I've recently tested another device that I'm not, I'm not a fan of.
11:11But would you use like an always on listening device in your pocket, Jamie? I don't know. That's the quote I didn't like from this article is that you trust it over time. And it does just have this incredible contextual awareness of your whole life. That kind of freaks me out a little bit. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I would use this outside of a work setting. That's the other thing too, with Sam Altman and a lot of these people with these ideas, it's like, oh, we just want is to make your life easier and blah, blah, blah. I think at the end of the day, you got to think about what the customer wants to.
11:39And I feel like people like to be entertained by the flashy screen, by the social media apps. And so I don't think this this device will be for everybody. I think, like I said, I think it's more geared towards productivity and that sort of thing. Not you're necessarily everyday person. Yeah. OK, I have one quote that I think falls in line with my prediction. And that is that Johnny Ivan interview said, I love solutions that teeter on appearing almost naive in their simplicity. Okay, I guarantee you guys this thing looks just like a pebble. And he said, I also love incredibly intelligent, sophisticated products that you want to touch and you want and you feel no intimidation and you want to use almost carelessly that you use them almost without thought that they're just tools.
12:23I guarantee this is just like a pebble that's like a weight on your thing and people use it as a fidget toy and they just like hold it and it's like their best pebble friend. Okay, here's what I don't like. I recently tested out the Bee smartwatch from Amazon actually acquired this company called Bee. And it's a watch that basically sits on your wrist and it can record what you're saying. And then it gives you like transcripts. So it's kind of like when you do a Zoom call and there's all the AI Zoom companions that people have. And it's like a note taker. It's like supposed to do that, but for your whole life.
12:52I'll tell you what's annoying about it. A couple of things. Number one, you have to have the app opened and on in order for it to record, which is like so dumb that I would have to think about pulling out my phone and turning the app on. because at that point, I might as well just have it recording on my phone. Why do whatever. And the other thing is you have to push a button on your wrist to start the recording. And then there's a bunch of like other like limitations about it just basically not being that good. But like, so all this to say, like I've tried some of these other devices and I'm sure Johnny Ibe is going to make it great.
13:19And the microphone will work really good and the transcription will tie into chat GPT. So it's going to work really good. But like, I don't know. It's just, it's not for everyone, but it'll be interesting to see what happens here. All right, guys. thank you so much for tuning into the podcast today. If you learn anything new, if you are excited for this, let us know. And if you're not planning on getting it, drop a comment either way on the show. We appreciate all of the reviews. So leave your review letting us know if you're going to get this device or not. And make sure to go check out the AI Hustle School community.
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Join us as we delve into the intriguing world of AI devices with a focus on Sam Altman's latest venture. Discover the potential of a screenless, calming device that aims to revolutionize productivity and minimize digital distractions.
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