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Episode Title
Google's Quantum Supremacy Redux: Impact on AI and Quantum Computing
Episode Overview In this episode, the hosts discuss Google's recent advancements in quantum computing and revisit the company's claim of achieving quantum supremacy. The conversation delves into the implications of these advancements for artificial intelligence (AI) and various industries.
Key Topics
- Historical Context of Quantum Supremacy
- 2019 Claim: Google claimed to have achieved quantum supremacy, stating their 53-qubit quantum computer could perform calculations in 200 seconds, which would take classical computers 10,000 years.
- Criticism: Competitors, particularly IBM, argued that Google's achievement did not qualify as true quantum supremacy since the task could theoretically still be done by classical computers, albeit much slower.
- Recent Developments
- Google has upgraded its quantum processor to 70 qubits, allowing for calculations that would take the fastest classical computer nearly 50 years to execute, marking a significant improvement.
Quantum Mechanics Basics
- Qubits: Unlike classical bits that are either 0 or 1, qubits can exist in both states simultaneously due to superposition, vastly increasing computational power.
Expert Opinions
- Skepticism: Critics like Sebastian White from the University of Sussex argue that while advances in quantum computing are impressive, practical applications have yet to be demonstrated.
- Support: Others, like Riverlane's CEO Steve Briarley, assert that Google's advancements mark a major milestone, suggesting the debate over quantum supremacy is resolved.
Implications for AI
- The hosts discuss ten crucial areas where quantum computing will significantly influence AI and various sectors:
- Drug Discovery
- Quantum computing can expedite drug discovery by modeling molecular interactions quickly, potentially leading to breakthroughs in personalized medicine.
- Financial Modeling
- Enhanced computational capabilities could transform risk management and investment strategies, although concerns about accessibility arise as only large firms may have access to quantum technology.
- Traffic Optimization
- Quantum computers can improve real-time traffic flow by processing vast data sets, potentially reducing congestion and emissions.
- Supply Chain Optimization
- They can solve complex optimization problems, improving efficiency in supply chains.
- Quantum Machine Learning
- The combination of quantum computing and AI could lead to significantly more accurate insights across sectors like healthcare and finance.
- Encryption & Cybersecurity
- Quantum computing poses a threat to traditional encryption methods, raising concerns about data security but also the potential for developing new, virtually unbreakable quantum encryption technologies.
- Artificial Intelligence Research
- Quantum computing is expected to accelerate AI research by handling complex computations more efficiently.
- Scientific Research
- Potential breakthroughs in understanding cosmic phenomena like dark matter and black holes due to the enhanced computational power of quantum computers.
Industry Impact
- The discussion touches on how major tech companies (e.g., Google, IBM) are leading the charge in quantum computing, potentially creating an "unfair advantage" in various markets.
- The hosts speculate on NVIDIA's future role in quantum computing, considering its current dominance in GPU technology used for AI training.
Conclusion The episode emphasizes the transformative potential of quantum computing in shaping the future of AI and various industries. As these technologies evolve, the podcast highlights the need for ongoing discussions about ethical considerations, accessibility, and the implications for society at large.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00What can 160 years of experience teach you about the future? When it comes to protecting what matters, Pacific Life provides life insurance, retirement income, and employee benefits for people and businesses building a more confident tomorrow. Strategies rooted in strength and backed by experience. Ask a financial professional how Pacific Life can help you today. Pacific Life Insurance Company, Omaha, Nebraska, and in New York. Pacific Life and Annuity, Phoenix, Arizona. Google has recently unveiled some new quantum computing capabilities that have a big impact on AI. So today on the podcast, we're going to be diving into what Google is officially announcing right here.
0:40Also, we're going to talk a little bit about the past because they do have a little controversy with achieving what they call quote unquote quantum supremacy. They got called out. We're going to talk about that. We'll jump into it. And then we're going to talk about the implications for AI and where we see quantum computing making the biggest change in AI into the future. So without further ado, let's jump into it. The first thing I want to cover on the podcast today is kind of the history of what is going on here for a little bit of context. So back in 2019, Google claimed that they achieved quantum supremacy, which essentially kind of comes from, it's like a funny, you know, obviously industry jargony term, but it comes from a blog post written by John Preskill back in 2012, where he essentially described quantum supremacy as a point where quantum computers can do things that classical computers can't and while google back in 2019 they had they built a quantum computer with 53 qubits of quantum computer and they said that it could perform a calculation in 200 seconds that would take classical computers 10 ,000 years now they said okay we've achieved quantum supremacy with that but some of their competitors over IBM who are also working on quantum computers kind of called them out and said this doesn't count because technically the phrase quantum supremacy refers to being able to do something a classical computer can't and if the calculation they did could be done by a classical computer in 10 ,000 years then technically a classical computer still could do it and they hadn't really broken this threshold so there was a lot of controversy and people were upset about it but in any case that kind of brings us to today where Google has now put in some big new moves and has made some big new changes to quantum computing that may actually be tipping the scales and giving them the official title of quantum supremacy so let's jump into it i think what's really important here is the fact that google recently reported a significant breakthrough with all of this and simply put this means that their quantum computer can now solve problems much faster than even their previous one according to google their newest iterations of the sycamore quantum processor which is um It has an impressive 70 qubits, right?
2:51So remember the last one was just over 50. Now they have 70 qubits. And it can make calculations in an instant that would take the fastest classical computer nearly half a century to execute, 50 years. But in order to understand what is actually happening here, I want to talk a little bit about quantum mechanics. So essentially the backbone of quantum computing is quantum mechanics, which is a branch of physics that deals with a phenomenon on a minuscule scale. So the power of quantum computers stems from their use of quantum bits, a qubit, which unlike classical bits that can be either 0 or 1, can exist in both states simultaneously due to a property known as superposition.
3:34So Google's latest 70-qubit quantum computer has a vastly increased computational power compared to classical computers. To illustrate the calculations that took Google's previous 53-qubit quantum computer a matter of seconds to process, that would take almost half a century for even the world's fastest classical computer, which is the frontier in Tennessee. So as it is often the case with groundbreaking tech, skepticism persists. of course critics um are all over the place and there's some recently at sub one of them is sebastian white from the university of sussex ion quantum technology group um if he argued that while these advances in quantum computing are academically impressive they haven't actually demonstrated any practical real world application yet so also some uh simultaneously you got the people over ibm who previously criticized google like we talked about right they said uh it's still possible for a computer to do this calculation, even if you're doing it in, you know, what would normally take 10 ,000 years, you're doing it much faster.
4:39But there are some people on the other side, Cambridge based quantum company, Riverlane CEO, Steve Briarley, he said that Google's achievements are a quote unquote, major milestone, claiming the debate over quantum supremacy is now resolved. So I think essentially, as we kind of stand on the cusp of a potential quantum revolution, you could say, I think what's really important is talking about what the impacts of quantum computers are. And especially in my opinion, with the rise of AI that we're seeing right now, you know, what the impacts are as we merge this with AI, as we see a world where computers are, you know, 10 ,000 years faster, and they're merged with AI, like, what are the implications here?
5:18So that's kind of what I want to talk about on the podcast. One area that I believe I've kind of identified 10 areas I think would be very that have big implications one of them is drug discovery so I think quantum computing can significantly speed up the drug discovery discovery process by essentially it will be able to model molecule interactions at an unprecedented speed so this could lead to breakthroughs in personalized medicine and the development of treatments for complex diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's one can only hope we've seen a lot of big progress there in AI and so you know you can only imagine the ways that a quantum computer that can get something done that would normally take 10 ,000 years in you know 200 minutes or seconds or whatever would be able to speed that up.
6:05Another area is financial modeling so quantum computers could revolutionize financial modeling by essentially analyzing large complex data sets and making predictions with really high accuracy. Previously we may not have had the essentially the power to be able to do that. But with these faster computers, I think this could really transform risk management, investment strategies and forecasting. Now, a caveat on this with financial modeling is the fact that who has the quantum computer? Google obviously has one. IBM obviously has one. We're going to see these massive tech companies that are having these super powerful quantum computers.
6:40This is not something that your average citizen is going to have. So, well, I think there's probably a lot of benefit in healthcare when you're just doing drug discovery, although even that can be disputed because some people complain that it's just big pharmaceutical companies that are going to be able to afford these things and maybe not smaller startups trying to come out so you know there's going to be that whole discussion and perhaps they'll do price gouging and all sorts of other things pharmaceutical companies have been accused of so there's that aspect and but i think that it's definitely going to be prevalent in the financial markets where you have these massive hedge funds perhaps massive tech companies that may be able to do this financial modeling may be able to get these really complex formulas and And they're obviously just going to completely outpace real regular investors, you know, your average person.
7:24Now, this is not really surprising. I believe that, you know, BlackRock, for example, has their Aladdin model, which is an AI model that can help them make some pretty massive predictions. And I believe that a lot of these hedge funds already have a lot of these sophisticated tools. So this isn't necessarily anything new, but taking this to a whole new level with quantum computers may just kind of increase that, quote unquote, unfair advantage. as it were, of helping these massive firms get more wealthy. The other area that I think actually has some interesting implications is traffic optimization.
7:56So in congested cities, quantum computers, I think might actually be very powerful and useful for optimizing traffic flow in real time by processing massive amounts of data from GPS systems, sensors, satellite images. I think this is going to lead to a lot less congestion, reduced emissions and more efficient transportation systems. Now, the thing about this is this is already being done to a degree. If you've ever used Google Maps to get somewhere, you'll know that sometimes they say, hey, fastest route is actually to get off the freeway. This happened to me in LA. It was like, hey, fastest way to get where you're going, which normally just drive straight down the freeway, get off the freeway, take the side street, pull back on.
8:32And I was like, okay. So I hop off and all of a sudden, tons of people are hopping off the freeway with me going down this random side street. It got super congested on the side street. Eventually, you know, we went down a few blocks that we pulled back onto the freeway. And I was like, that is strange. But I think what Google was doing was saying, we're trying to get the fastest way to get this massive amount of cars from point A to point B. We can see where everyone's going because they're all on Google Maps with their GPS. So if we wrote a couple people off to the side to these side streets, we can reduce traffic on the main freeway.
9:00And you know, those side streets will, we're using up more roads. So perhaps we'll get everyone there faster. I think that's Google's concept. So they are kind of doing this in real time at the moment. You know, some people argue that it's going to be hard for like a city or the government to get access to all this data. So, and I think that's true, but I think that it's going to be done by private companies like Google who already have access to all this data. You know, they're on everyone's GPS, Google or Apple Maps, maybe another competitor in this space that has all of this data that's going to be able to do this.
9:29And so now the question becomes, you know, we're already doing this to a large scale with, you know, evidently very powerful computers and processors but what happens when there's quantum computers that can do that's you know calculations 10 ,000 times faster you know what are what changes will that be able to make so I think that is an interesting area one other area that I think is going to be pretty powerful is supply chain optimization quantum algorithms can solve really complex optimization problems and I believe that that will apply to supply chain I think this is actually gonna be able to help businesses minimize costs reduce delivery times and perhaps improve overall efficiency one area that of course is very evident, especially with AI today is quantum machine learning.
10:10So combining kind of quantum computing in AI, I think could create powerful machine learning systems. Quantum machine learning could analyze vast data sets, lending to more accurate insights and predictions across numerous sectors, healthcare, finance, energy, a lot of things we've talked about. But I think quantum machine learning is going to be big. And the reason why I think this is because if you think about it, um you know recent leaks came out where the essentially the cost and model weights and a bunch of other things from gpt4 were leaked and it was it was essentially um they reverse engineered it and realized it took about 63 million dollars to train gpt4 that was opening eyes cost on you know a compute cost based off of what it looks like they were doing and um it also took them three months so imagine a world with a quantum computer which a gpt4 and i'm not sure if the what the cost changes would be um like electrical consumption and whatnot but i have to assume it would be lower if these machines are running for less time but um regardless about the cost if the speed of training chat gpt went from three months to you know three minutes that is some significant improvements and all of a sudden if you know open ai or any other company wanted to iterate on AI models faster and faster, this is going to make a major difference.
11:29I'm curious to see how NVIDIA plays into this if they start making components for supercomputers, because evidently if this becomes mainstream or, you know, if Google starts licensing out this tech, people are going to want to get their hands on these quantum computers in AI. And so obviously we see this massive AI gold rush with GPUs and other different chips and devices. NVIDIA's, you know their market cap got pushed over a trillion dollars because they're one of the number one suppliers of the tech behind training these ai models the nvidia h100s and whatnot but imagine if nvidia doesn't take advantage of this somebody else will and they're going to be making some very very hefty profits potentially google right it seems like they're really leading the way potentially ibm or some other companies but you know with the way that nvidia stock price got pushed to the moon recently you know you can't you got to imagine that there's a lot of other companies that are really looking at this space especially in quantum computing realizing this could be their big break to push their companies past the trillion dollar market cap if they really can get this quantum computing technology mainstream even if not for regular consumers but just for you know these ai companies training so i think that's going to be a really big area one thing i did want to touch on is encryption and cyber security so quantum computing it can both threaten and enhance cybersecurity.
12:52I think really the key is threaten at this point because essentially it can crack traditional encryption methods. Now, some say like if they're trying to put a positive spin on it, they could lead to the development of new, more secure quantum encryption techniques that would be virtually unbreakable. But like, it's a little bit hazy how those methods will be built and they haven't been built yet. But what we do know is it definitely can crack encryption. Typical encryption for a quantum computer, no problem. I also wonder what the impact of that is going to be if they set a quantum computer loose on for say for example the bitcoin blockchain and had it you know try to mine up all the bitcoins in a matter of you know minutes or something crazy like that there's definitely is a lot of interesting implications there as well one other area is in artificial intelligence research i think quantum computing will really accelerate ai research by handling complex computations at high speeds i I think it's going to help in building more advanced AI models and understanding AI decision making processes better.
13:52And then some people have actually said that they believe it's going to help with astronomy and physics. So in scientific research, quantum computing theoretically could revolutionize the way we stimulate and understand the universe. It could help astrophysicists make sense of massive data sets leading to potentially breakthroughs in our understanding of dark matter, black holes and some other cosmic phenomenons. So overall, I think that there are some massive implications for AI, especially as we're mixing this with quantum computing And I'm very curious to follow this into the future because inevitably this is kind of the next step in AI's journey Is these supercomputers that are going to take it to the next level and be able to build these models?
14:32You know thousands and thousands of times faster and hopefully less expensive So it's gonna be very interesting to see how that plays out in the future sure.
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