The Journey Begins: Exploring the Genesis of AI Hustle

0:28Welcome to the AI Hustle Podcast. with AI. And the third is about Google and Universal who are working on a deal to potentially allow artists' voices to be used in music and other sorts of content. So we're going to dive into all of that today. Why don't you, Jamie, kick us off and tell us what's happening with Refusion? Okay, so Refusion, this is a really cool company who just raised$4 million in funding, but they are creating auto-generated music tracks. So not only can you do that, but you can also, they will generate images using AI of the audio. And what's so cool about this app is that if you do like a faceless YouTube channel or if you're creating audio playlists on Spotify, this app will do it all for you, including visuals.

1:15So that's just a really powerful tool for side hustles. If you are someone who is looking to create passive income through streaming and YouTube, this is a really cool app. Jane, what do you think about this one? yeah i think this is really interesting i'm looking at their uh their article about them right now but i think it's really interesting right now like we we see okay of course the first thing is they raised four million dollars so obviously these guys um have like a very solid product i think it's interesting they actually have the chain smokers who are investors in their in their project as well um but yeah i think this space right now is like one of the i think this is going to be one of the big next spaces like we obviously have chat gpt that's nailed down audio um images we have someone like mid journey and dolly that have really nailed kind of that space down and i think music um and audio might be kind of the next big one so i think people are you know putting in four million dollars because they believe this is a big one in this space um yeah this is really interesting it like looking at it essentially what it says it allows you to do is to create like riffs for of like musician of like music and stuff so you essentially are just you know describing like you would to chat gpt um you know you'd be like hey give me like a hyper pump disco funky bass line with smooth vocals like you're just like talking like chat gpt and saying exactly what you want like out of the music and it generates you i think it's called refusion it calls them riffs because i don't think it's saying it's going to generate you like an entire song it's like a chunk of a song um i don't know what your opinion is on this in my opinion that's just kind of the beginning like they'll start with something like that because maybe it's easier and they're not as worried but like this 100 goes to being able to produce full songs eventually yeah and even if right now it's just like i think it says something in there about like vocals you could say like a different type of vocal but i don't think it sings the full song for you but dude there's no way in my mind that this doesn't go like maybe it's different levels to different steps or it's like, hey, you know, this type of style of music, this type of thing, it produces a song.

3:21It's like, OK, now I want vocals with a song lyrics about like this concept and this thing. OK, cool. Now I want the the person whose vocals it is to be like a female, like in like this range or from like this ethnicity or like this background or like this sound. And dude, there's no way this doesn't just go there where it eventually can produce. You'll have to kind of like orchestrate it a little bit, but like it'll you don't have the vocals or the music like production talent like it'll be able to to produce the whole thing and i don't know where you think that goes but uh yeah i mean well i think even like so being having youtube as a background like i'm always looking for different um audio tracks that i don't have any licensing um that i can use um on my youtube videos without getting a copyright strike and sometimes there just isn't like the perfect sound you know or i've reused sounds uh So this kind of opens up a whole new category and way to kind of get that exact, you know, vibe you're going for with your music for your YouTube video.

4:19But then also, yeah, kind of to go along with what you said with producing music, you know, if you want to make an entire album or playlist, eventually to be able to do that would be amazing for streaming purposes as well. I mean, right now, I think I know, Jayden, you have a little experience with that. But if you're just making like a beat on repeat and not necessarily producing a full sound, but you're just going for like a techno lo-fi beat, you know, to study to or something like that. I feel like that's a lot more attainable, at least now. But I agree with you. Like, I think, you know, maybe even months down the road, there'll be a full, you know, music production with AI, which is really cool.

5:00yeah and I love your I love your comments on this because in my mind you this goes straight to like side hustles number one um supporting like someone that currently has a side hustle like a YouTube channel or even like if you listen to like my like our podcast intro and stuff um like there's like a little a music jingle at the beginning um we should play around with this Jamie uh after and see if we can come up with a custom music jingle for the for the podcast intro with Refusion But I think, like you mentioned, I use so YouTube, for those that don't know, has like a free copyright free music library that they just like let you pick through and you can kind of sort it by genre to try to find like music.

5:40But it's funny because I actually watch a lot of YouTube videos where like there's like a song playing in the background. And I'm like, ah, like that's a free YouTube like library song. Like I just like recognize it, you know. and I think even when I'm searching for music there I wish it was more like this AI experience where like because I'm just like you have the filters where you're like uh it's like an upbeat mood um it's got like this and but then like the song is like nothing like what you actually want so it would be really cool if you type in exactly like this is an upbeat mood like beat it's gonna be blah blah you just get like your prompts a few very like a few types of prompts okay here's the other cool thing there's a lot of um youtubers that I see use the same song like over and over again in the background of the mark rober which i think is probably a great example for everyone i swear he like when he does his time lapse he uses the same song for like last 10 years which is fine but i think it would be cool if you came up with a custom prompt on something like refusion that uh was like the exact genre and style of song you like so it fits what you want but every time you give it to refusion it's going to give you a slightly different like variation it's not going to come up with the exact same song so it'd kind of be cool you get a custom song for every single thing.

6:47So number one, supporting your side hustle. But number two, how do you actually make money from this? And I think there's a number of ways to monetize a tool like this. Jamie, I'd love to hear your opinion. But number one, like you mentioned, I've done a lot with Spotify. So like you literally I have friends that have made thousands of dollars creating lo-fi beats and just posting those on Spotify and calling them like lo-fi study beats or just basic stuff like that. And Spotify will pay you for every stream you get. And I've done this in a number of areas. I still have successful Spotify businesses that make me thousands a month from stuff I've done in the past.

7:25So it's a very viable business. I don't know. What are your thoughts on monetization of that? Yeah, I mean, I think that was the first thing that came to mind because I know you, Jaden, are the resident expert on the audio stuff. But another thing I think is really another great way, even for beginners they could get into it would be through Fiverr, the gig economy. How many restaurants or companies are looking to put ad content out there and they have terrible jingles or they try to come up with it all themselves or they pay someone who is kind of, in general, a good video production company, but they don't have the capabilities.

8:02You could, on Fiverr, produce music or produce jingles for people using AI, and I think you could make a king doing it. Oh my gosh. And okay, that is a genius idea. And for anyone listening, this is the way I think you pull this off successfully. It's all about like you use the same tool, the same technology, but you just label it 100 different things. So you just go on Fiverr and you make a post that's like, I'll make you like a YouTube video intro song. I'll make you a podcast intro song. I'll make you a custom, like happy birthday, a custom wedding song. like you just go through like all the different like areas and genres um and yeah people will people will come and pay you but i think the secret there is like just make a bunch of listings for very niche specific areas where this technology can be applied and yeah i think that's a great monetization method beyond just like a traditional um you know post it on spotify and make it a generic title that can get streams from it yeah i mean you could even take that a little one step further and combine it with another software like, you know, the one that can emulate voices, you could have like Snoop Dogg sing a birthday song to somebody, you know, like customized Snoop Dogg birthday song, you know, like or, you know, something like that.

9:16You could kind of combine and make some really cool stuff, I think. So I think that's a really fitting one because Jamie has been just like talking my ear off for the last week about how Meta recently announced that they They're doing these different AI celebrities that you can chat with, like on like WhatsApp and stuff. And the one Jamie tells me he's spent hours talking to is actually the Snoop Dogg celebrity. So I think that's a fitting segue for Jamie. We know his music taste now. He's been exposed. I thought you were going to say the Kendall Jenner one. That's the one I think that's got the most media hype is that one.

9:49But yeah, that is super creepy and interesting. I think a majority of people were kind of creeped out by the prospect of talking to someone with a chat bot that has like a video there, but it's not really them. That's kind of, I feel like whenever something like that comes out, it's like, wow, this is actually, this technology is going to change the world. So, no. Okay, that's crazy. This is what Jamie and I were talking pre-show that I actually think is going to be interesting. if you want to think about like framing that into how that will actually be make money for people because right now i think i don't even know like i don't know you could throw out a number jamie but like what do you think meta paid like all of these celebrities to make an ai version of them on there it's like pretty much a marketing and like yeah well i read i actually read the article uh they said they paid five million so each yeah so each celebrity got five million bucks and i I think they spent like two to three hours in the studio getting like the full, you know, profile of their expressions and stuff and then made these bots.

10:51And yeah, that's a pretty good gig. I would do that. That is wild. Five million bucks. So, I mean, I think it was for two years of licensing or two years of usage. That's not even like a perpetual license. That's only for two years. Jeez, that's a great deal. I saw the Mr. Beast one. I tried that one out. and I mean personally I don't really see myself sitting there and chatting with Mr. Beast you know what they're trying to copy though is um character AI which essentially it's kind of like the same thing but it's I think you make the the bots on there um and I haven't gone deep into actually like making them myself but they yeah it's like go talk to Leonardo da Vinci go talk to Einstein I wonder if it's like you upload all of Einstein's like publicly available info or if you just tell the bot like it's pretty much chat GPT and you just tell it like act like Einstein and chat GPT kind of already sucked in all the data so it can act like that.

11:43But anyways, character AI is incredibly popular. It's like, it was like startling to me that it was competing with chat GPT's iOS app with how many people were actually using it. And now I don't think there's a way to actually monetize them yet, but I think it'd be really cool if you could make like a bot on there and then you could like charge people, like have a paywall where it's like, oh, you want to use my Einstein app? Like I got the best one. It's going to be 50 cents a week or a month or something. But like on top of that, I think beyond that is like, if you can turn yourself into a bot, I think that's, there's a number of people that have done that and charged for you to be able to talk to them as a bot.

12:22So yeah, interesting. Yeah, that is super interesting. The app that came to mind when you were talking about that is the Cameo app. I remember you could pay celebrities to do like a custom greeting to you. But now it's almost like you could do that artificially with AI and don't even need, you know, but then you have the whole, there's going to be lots of legal issues and licensing type stuff. Um, I don't know what that would, Oh, go ahead. No, that's a great point. Like that's a great opportunity for cameo. They don't have to do this for these celebrities anymore. They're just like, Hey, come in, make your profile.

12:58Maybe they don't even pay the celebrity there. Make your profile and then just charge people to get cameos from the AI version of you. It's so much easier. I think, okay, this is what I think will run into trouble in that area is like they have to be really strict about like what the celebrity can then say because it's kind of their brand image you know right now it's like i could i could be like hey tell my friend i hate them and they're a jerk or something to like some celebrity and they're like no i'm not gonna say that it's gonna make me look bad you know what i mean but if you just go to the ai you're like i paid like the like dude it is crazy it's like four thousand dollars for some cameo things like if you want like a celebrity to like say a happy birthday wish right so it's like i paid the four thousand dollars i want you to say something terrible like cameos gonna have to have really rigorous like uh safeguards so that people don't say crazy stuff on there well and then they're also cameo would be taking a gamble too because they'd have to have a license agreement up front with the celebrity so then if you know not enough If people make the Cameo with them, they would end up losing money.

14:00So yeah, it's tricky. I don't know. I think in that case, Cameo would just say like, hey, come in for free. We'll do all the recording and they'll just lose money on the work up front. We'll do all the work to put your things together. But it's up to you if it actually sells or anyone actually buys it. And I think Cameo would probably do that for free, especially for the big celebrities. And yeah, I don't know. That's true. Yeah, I guess you could say, yeah, anytime someone used it to generate a video, or something then they would get a commission of some sort i wonder if like you mentioned how uh facebook or meta was paying five million i wonder if cameo paid to get some like big a-list celebrities on there at the beginning it wouldn't surprise me um then now but it's also it's trickier because like meta it's like it's a one and done deal where this is like pay them to get on the platform but then they gotta like actively do the the videos but i guess they're getting paid for it so they get paid as they as they go so i heard um i heard someone say you can tell who the broke celebrities are by how much they're charging on cameo that's funny that's true though for sure there's uh there's a bunch of people from the office that are great but they're on cameo and it's like super cheap to get them to say something i'm like oh man the acting acting life has not been easy that's funny okay so i wanted to hop over to the another really interesting piece of news and uh some different side hustles i think will be spawned from this but essentially there is a software it's called tape it and it's a software for musicians that essentially lets them get you know studio quality noise reduction from ai so i know you jamie have mentioned you've used adobe audio enhancer i guess explain everyone what that is and how it works what you've used it for sure yeah so adobe audio enhancer basically you can uh any video recording you have that has an audio track it will automatically enhance the audio so um if you're talking to your cell phone you know a lot of the the background noise um you know kids crying wind blowing all that kind of stuff uh really takes away from the quality of the audio um you know when you're doing a podcast you have a nice microphone and you're up close to your mouth but um normal microphones pick up on the the whole room, the audio from the whole room.

16:14So an app like the Adobe one, or now this new Tape It one will automatically reduce the noise, remove that, and then also enhance the audio. And it actually sounds amazing. It's shocking how they do it with the software to take out the background noise and then enhance audio. Some of it is almost hard to differentiate between like a podcast audio. It's pretty cool. yeah yeah so i actually use it for uh for those that every every episode previous to this one for anyone listening i've used adobe audio enhancer on so like anything on this anything on this podcast i use it and even though like my microphone is actually pretty decent when i started podcasting i had just a really cheap like 40 usb mic off of amazon i mean um and literally putting it through adobe audio enhancer made it sound super professional so what's really interesting This technology, I think Adobe Audio Enhancer came out earlier this year.

17:10So it's not like that old, but it has been around. Now, what I think is interesting is this new one called Tape It. It's specifically targeting musicians. And the reason I think that's important is because when you are enhancing audio or like trying to fix audio for like music, it's significantly harder for Adobe Audio Enhancer. Even when we when I have like interviews where it's like two people on a podcast and I do it sometimes like between people talking it like accidentally clips someone a little early or a little late or has like some like pause issues it's like it's pretty good but it's not perfect but for music you cannot have that like you can't have the end of a drum be clipped off or like you it just has to be like the perfect exact music just without the the sound and so i think it's actually interesting i've actually personally tried tape it um putting stuff in there it's actually pretty good you can go you can go uh check it out and find people can go check it out and find it.

18:05And maybe we'll leave links in the show notes of this episode to all the articles that we talk about. So you can go look up all these tools, but tape. It's cool because essentially you can have like your band or you can have a band that plays live. Um, and it's like in a busy street. So there's people talking and walking around, or even like, if you do it in a quiet building, there's like a little hiss or a hum, like there's just background sound, like the fans of my computer, for example, right now can get picked up on microphones. And so, um, having a tool like this literally makes it sound like you are in like a soundproof studio and it's really impressive now off of the top of your head jamie what side hustles do you think could come out of not just adobe audio enhancer i guess we get to that but like this tape it software like like let's say you're not even a musician like how can you make money off of something like this yeah that's that's great i think my mind kind of goes back to the whole fiverr gig economy you know let's say you had at a wedding you know someone sang a special song like the dad sang a song to his daughter and someone recorded on their phone again it's kind of the same thing you're going to have all that background noise the people to be able to kind of give it a studio quality feel just with a click of a button I think is something that people would be you know willing to worth people would be willing to pay for so I could see you know kind of like auto producing you know anything like that on fiverr um and from what i understand you were saying the adobe is more for vocals and then tape it more for audio uh okay yeah i mean uh cheap it's gonna it's gonna take the the price of the production quality production costs of making music down which is just gonna allow a lot more people to kind of get into the game because i know studio time is very expensive.

19:54So if you can, you know, kind of basically offer a service that's almost as good or as good as studio time, you can, there's room to make money for sure. Okay. So many different thoughts on this, but like for those that don't know, I have a background, a little bit of a background in music. I've done a lot of different side hustles. My main thing I do now is software, but I have like in the past, I had a business that was all about like Spotify and music and I've done like so many different genres. I've done it where I like pay musicians to record music. I have like paid for studio time to get someone in the studio, recorded stuff myself, like whatever.

20:30I've been all over that industry. And yeah, this is a total game changer. Number one, studio times freaking expensive. But number two, I actually have paid a lot of money because back in the day, something I used to do, one of my side hustles was I would find a voice talent on Upwork. and I would find a producer on Upwork and I would find new like trending songs. So like whatever the hottest new Taylor Swift or whatever song that came out on the top of the charts, I would get a production company. I'm like, hey, like make like a background track that's as true to the original song as possible, like pretty much clone them, but without cloning them, right?

21:10Like give me the karaoke version of this song. Then I would go to a vocalist and be like, hey, here's a track sing on top of this track like the song like your own rendition just sing it you know as best as you can and then I would have to combine them and I would pay a ton of money for someone to do what they call mixing and mastering of that track and I think something like this helps a lot with that where like you don't have to mix and master it as much you don't have to remove the hisses or fix the audio as much because it's kind of just like all baked in you you literally lay layer the two on top of each other throw it through tape it it's going to fix any hissing or buzzing and then your song's good to go.

21:48And what I actually used to do then is, of course, I'm sure people are like, you can't do that. That's going to get you copyright struck. So if you publish your music through a distribution company called Lander, they will go and buy the license to essentially you can like do covers of people's music. So it's called a cover license. And pretty much how it works out is like normally um you get a you get paid for every stream your song gets but if you do something like uh if you do a cover license you have to give 30 cents on the dollar to the original like person but you get to keep 70 on the dollar if you're doing covers so like yeah even for that side hustle a tool like this would have been incredibly valuable and like fyi in case anyone wants to know if it worked it actually did work my number one song that i uh did with this side hustle was a song called dance monkey by tones and I, if you've ever heard of it, it was kind of really popular way back when I don't know what the, I don't know what the thing was, but like, I think this is my guess, uh, that the song was like banned in Russia or something, or like the original like vocalist decided they didn't want to release their song in Russia.

22:57I don't know what the thing was because for some reason I did a cover and actually sounded pretty close to the original. Um, but like it had its own spin that the vocalist I chose, she was like really finale talented. But anyways, yeah, we did a cover of that song. And for some reason in Russia, I got so many downloads off of iTunes, like thousands of dollars worth of iTunes downloads. Don't know why, but anyways, it's kind of funny. That's just the name of the game in that. But something like Tape It would have been very helpful for that side hustle. Dude, you're such a boss of the Spotify, iTunes world.

23:29I love it. Maddie, I went... I remember that's kind of how we first met, or at least we talked for the first time over about that. That was like two or three years ago now. Yeah. So I used to have a YouTube channel all about Spotify and well, it is about side hustles. So, you know, this podcast is a continuation of that really. But that was one that was very interesting. Okay. Jamie, the final thing I want to bring this to on the podcast today is Google and Universal Music. they're talking about licensing artists' voices for AI-generated music. I mean, this isn't inked, right? This deal isn't done and set in stone.

24:06So like we can't definitively say every side hustle you can do from this. Let's talk about where we think this could go because I think this is a really, if you're talking about music, which is this whole podcast episode is about like making money from like AI audio and music kind of tools. Where does this go and where can people make money from this? Like where do you, what's your predictions on this one? yeah i mean kind of i was alluding to it earlier but i feel like the whole world of like licensing music um it's going to be really big even more so for musicians now because if an ai can basically replicate their sound and their their voice um they're going to get ripped off you know so there's going to need to be a lot more licensing between some of these companies that are like google and the artist, but then also just, you know, figuring out, it's kind of like, almost like the new way to get pirated, like pirated music back in the day was like a big thing.

24:59I feel like this, you know, you could have a song you think is written by Taylor Swift, but it was just an AI, you know, using her voice. So it's, it's, I feel like there could be definitely some, some legal battles for sure. But I think going back to your side hustle that you'd mentioned, there's a lot of opportunity to kind of um you do like remixes or covers of songs you know using the actual artist but kind of do like you know taylor swift's uh dubstep version you know i don't know like yeah um i feel like there's a lot of ways you could go with that what are your thoughts yeah no i think you're spot on i didn't even think about that yeah like i don't even need to pay a vocalist for that side hustle anymore if if like this happened i can just license the original artist's voice okay but i think what this goes beyond just like doing a cover of an artist with their own voice okay that that's wacky because then it literally oh my gosh okay this this just opened a whole other can of worms that i thought about here's a here's a horrible side hustle for all the degenerates listening to this okay if this gets approved and passed and you can make like uh you know if you can make music with people's voices and it's like the licensing so it's probably gonna be a similar deal where it's like you give 30 cents on the dollar for any money made um right if this gets passed this is the best side hustle to do go to every famous celebrity every famous thing i mean this is it you use ai so these tools are already out there you can you can scale this pretty quick and you make studio version of like every every album that already exists it's like ed sheeran studio version ed sheeran like live performance ed sheeran live and like yeah you literally just do it and it's like totally legal it's 100 legit it's ed sheeran's voice singing ed sheeran's music um i guess you need the production of the background of the tracks but that's not very hard to get people to help you with and a lot of yeah it's just like publicly available for free but uh yeah oh my gosh that'd be so funny you use refusion right and yeah you do it for fusion get the production done and then be a complete degenerate um so okay my actual like opinion on this though is i think this is the right move a lot of people um i've been seen like you should look it up ai johnny cash it's fantastic um on youtube people are already making this kind of music in fact there was recently a couple months ago there was a drake and the weekend song it was a collab that was completely generated by ai there's so there's a bunch of open source ai models they're open source they're not um they're not necessarily ones that are like commercialized so much because people are worried about copyrights but people just make their own open source versions you run on your computer and generate it it's a little bit more technical, but you can do it.

27:38Anyways, go look it up if you're interested. But it's like the technology's there. But yeah, there was a Drake and Weekend song that went totally viral. And as I listened to it, it was actually pretty good. I'm like, dang, this is a good song. But anyways, this is going to happen whether people like it or not. There's going to be open source models. It's going to be the bootleg music, whatever. People are going to make their own music. And this was like something, it wasn't even something Drake had ever sung before, right? They got Chad Chibuti to say, write me a Drake song about this. And Chad Chibuti, of course, is good at that.

28:04Then they throw it into this model and it wraps it like Drake sounds perfect. So this is going to happen whether people like it or not. So I think this is 100 % the right move for someone like Universal Music, because originally when this happened, Universal Music and all the other music people, they like hardcore sued the people that were releasing this music on YouTube. They're like, you know, big lawsuit, take it down, kill it. And of course, like, I think they are the original people did. But so many people like grabbed it and re uploaded it that like I was able to find like a bootleg version somewhere and like, come on, I want to hear the song.

28:32But like, yeah, you make money from from this. And so I think this is the right play of doing the licensing because they're not going to be able to shut this down. If the technology is available and it's a super pound of Drake, they're going to make Drake songs like it's fun. Right. They just want to do it. So I think the licensing is the right move for them in this regard. Yeah. And I think, I think unfortunately the people who maybe are going to get hit worse by this are the like small to medium sized artists who, you know, maybe the like YouTube, you know, can detect if there's copyright infringement, maybe on the smaller artists, they won't be able to recognize their voice.

29:07And so they may get hurt harder than big time artists, you know, but. Yes. So I think in the tradition, like in what's currently happening, that's 100 % the scenario and the situation. But I think if Google and Universal Music ink this deal, then it's going to be built into YouTube and it's probably going to be a lot more robust. And hopefully YouTube would just be able to catch it in credit. um yeah so i think uh well yeah inevitably that's why google's doing it so that's cool and i think it also brings me back to like earlier this year when grimes who is you know elon musk's one of his like i don't think they're together now maybe they're on and off yeah baby mama um she said like hey uh anyone can use my voice and clone it with ai i think she even made a tool for them to do it but she said just split the road you have to split the royalties 50 50 with me and she carried a a whole system for that.

29:56So I think it's that same concept. Like, why not? If you're an artist and you're not pumping out a million albums a year, like if someone wants to, especially for like Drake, maybe not so much, right? The guy's got a brand. He comes out with his album every year. He's got kind of system, Taylor Swift, that's sort of the same thing. But for like people like Grimes or like smaller than the mega stars, like why not? Let someone use your voice and if they create something really cool, split the revenue with them. Like, that's cool. There's a lot of people that are very talented musicians. Like I have a brother, phenomenally talented musician and producer.

30:26Like he produces music, but he just like, doesn't like singing. So that's not his thing. But if he could just go and license everyone else's vocals and put them on there, like he'd be over the moon and, and like he makes really good songs. Like the lyrics are good. The audio is good. Like everything's good. He just doesn't like doing the vocals on top. So I think that's a really cool way to create a whole new revenue stream and a whole new side hustle for people that aren't like vocalists. So yeah, that's exciting for sure. That's cool, man. All right, Jamie. Well, it was fantastic. Thank you so much to the listener for tuning in to the AI hustle.

30:59We're going to be doing these installment, these episodes once a week. We'll have this kind of news breakdown and talk about different side hustles. We think that are coming out of breaking AI news, really to keep you on the cutting edge of like what's what's coming down the pipe. Of course, like we can talk about just random side hustles you could do, but there's so many new ones. And I think this is the reason why Jamie and I felt so strongly about this kind of specific segment and why we think this is really important, why we're doing this podcast for free for you right now is because we believe that the first people that take advantage of these big technological shifts are the ones that are going to make, they're going to have the best impact and the biggest opportunity to really like take an opportunity and make money from it.

31:39So I'd say, you know, strike while the iron's hot. If any of these, you know, side hustles sound interesting for you, like start looking into them, start getting familiar with them because the first people that do this are going to be the ones that are the most successful. And, you know, at some point when a market gets oversaturated, there is like, quote unquote, a moat, I believe, that comes from whoever did it first. They were able to get their accounts pushed the furthest. They're able to grow. They're following the biggest in a specific area or whatever their piece of content was able to get the biggest.

32:09And so, yeah, we're keeping you on the cutting edge so that you can be that person. Yeah. Dropshipping was the thing five years ago, everyone was trying to get into. The early ones are still making a killing doing it. But yeah, there's just so much opportunity with AI. It's insane. So we really believe in it. Thanks for watching guys. Yep. Thanks so much. And make sure to rate us wherever you get your podcasts. Have a great rest of your day.