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Anderson Cooper 360

12 Nov 2026 · 48m · 18 chapters

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Officials: At Least 2 Killed, 17 Hospitalized After Brooklyn Building Collapse

In short

The episode covers multiple breaking news stories: a Brooklyn building collapse (at least 2 killed, 17 hospitalized, including at least one child; rescue workers search through rubble by hand; cause unknown); Mississippi’s historic Senate election where Democrat Scott Colom(b)e is projected to defeat incumbent Republican Cindy Hyde-Smith after provisional/affidavit ballots; and a White House legal fight over incoming House Oversight Committee Chair Robert Garcia, with White House counsel warning oversight could be “blatant criminality.” It also reports NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang facing an emergency board meeting amid allegations of a suspected Chinese-spy affair and a second alleged affair (with VP Kimberly Powell), raising national-security and conflict-policy concerns.

Guests

Anna Navarro (Republican strategist), Brad Tadde (Republican strategist), Charles Blow (Guardian writer), Simone Prokupes (CNN correspondent), Caitlin Collins (CNN chief White House correspondent), Ana Swanson (NYT tech journalist), Jacob Ward (CNN), John Miller (CNN law enforcement/intelligence analyst), Natasha Bertrand (CNN).

Notable examples

Colom(b)e’s grassroots “ground game” and Mississippi voting barriers; Arlington Sentinel reprimand of Defense Sec. Pete Hegseth; Kennedy family lawsuit opposing Trump’s Arlington arch.

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Chapters

1:42

Historic Election in Mississippi

Coverage of Scott Colome's historic election as the first black U.S. senator from Mississippi.

“We have a correspondent on the scene who's gathering information.”
4:21

Analysis of Colome's Victory

A discussion about the factors that led to Scott Colome's victory and its significance.

“And part of what took so long for this race to be called was there was a lot of provisional ballots and known in the state of Mississippi as affidavit ballots.”
6:27

Historical Context of Mississippi Elections

Exploration of the historical challenges in Mississippi elections and the implications of Colome's win.

“Charles, I'm wondering, in your view, what were you think the biggest factors in Columbus victory?”
7:48

Voter Engagement and Future Implications

Discussion on voter engagement and the potential impact of Colome's victory on future elections.

“But then in 66, Mississippi turned right around and passed this kind of what they call massive resistance.”
13:42

Transition to Building Collapse Updates

A brief transition to updates on the building collapse incident in Brooklyn.

“the White House tries to tell the incoming Democratic House Oversight Chair that doing oversight could become, quote, blatant criminality.”
14:00

Update on Brooklyn Building Collapse

Learn about the tragic details surrounding the recent building collapse in Brooklyn.

“in Brooklyn where several victims, including at least one child, are now known to have died and where New York's mayor is expected to speak to reporters momentarily.”
16:38

Political Tensions and Oversight Committee Dynamics

Explore the escalating political tensions and the dynamics of the incoming Oversight Committee.

“aimed to brush back pitch at incoming Democratic House Oversight Committee Chairman Robert Garcia.”
20:58

NVIDIA CEO's Controversial Affairs

Discuss the implications of NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang's reported extramarital affairs.

“We spent a lot of time in Trump One and the courts watching this fight play out between Democrats and the White House when they were trying to get testimony or documents or appearances by officials up on Capitol Hill.”
22:26

Corporate Impact of Personal Actions

Examine the potential corporate ramifications of personal scandals involving Jensen Huang.

“The Nvidia board is meeting tonight to discuss the future of CEO Jensen Huang, according to two sources.”
28:00

Discussion on Jensen's Security Oversight

Exploring the implications of Jensen's extramarital affair and security lapses.

“So already you've been seeing a lot of calls from Congress to haul Jensen in for questioning to learn more about the company.”
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29:48

Implications of Personal Relationships in Business

Analyzing how personal relationships can lead to potential risks in business.

“I mean, the arrogance, John, of somebody thinking I'm so hot with my leather jackets that this person is, you know, attracted to me.”
31:26

Brooklyn Building Collapse Update

Latest updates from the scene of the Brooklyn building collapse and rescue efforts.

“Anna Swanson, I appreciate the reporting.”
33:18

Reprimand at Arlington National Cemetery

Discussing the incident involving Defense Secretary Hegseth at Arlington.

“have a full record yet of the people who were inside the building.”
34:52

Analysis of Hegseth's Public Image

Examining Secretary Hegseth's public image in light of recent events.

“Senator Anderson, Natasha Bertrand joins us now with more.”
37:09

Kennedy Family's Opposition to Proposed Arch

Members of the Kennedy family argue against the construction of a controversial arch.

“with a similar breach of decorum at Arlington National Cemetery when he was reprimanded by an Arlington official for filming a campaign style video there.”
40:01

Joe Kennedy III Discusses Legal Grounds

Joe Kennedy III explains his family's legal arguments against the arch.

“Well, shortly before air, I spoke with former Congressman Joe Kennedy, the third, who's the grandnephew of President John F.”
42:05

Arlington Memorial Controversy

Discussion on the implications of altering Arlington's sacred ground.

“I think most importantly, it doesn't really matter what I personally think about it.”
43:24

Mississippi Election Victory

Reflections on the significance of Scott Colombs' win in Mississippi.

“I know you have worked hard the last several years in Mississippi for Democratic candidates.”
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1:01breaking news on several fronts tonight. A building collapse with. We are just now learning multiple fatalities, including at least one child. This is in New York. We'll bring you an update in a moment. And in Mississippi history in the making, CNN can now project the Democrats. Scott Colom will be the state's first black US senator since 1881. We have a correspondent on the scene in Brooklyn where what looks like an army of firefighters has been going through the debris, mostly by hand for the state. for several hours now. They've already pulled at least one of the victims from a large pile of rubble.

1:32Rescue workers don't yet know how many more could still be trapped or missing, according to a New York police official. We, of course, gonna continue to bring you the latest on this throughout the hour. We have a correspondent on the scene who's gathering information. We're gonna go to him in a little bit. Also tonight, we've just learned that NVIDIA's board is now meeting to discuss CEO Jensen Huang's future after new reporting the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times that his affair with a suspected Chinese spy was not his only marital infidelity. A lot of breaking news to get to tonight.

2:03It begins for us in Mississippi with Scott Colombe now projected to defeat the incumbent Republican Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith after eight days of vote counting and 145 years of post-Civil War setbacks and progress in Mississippi. Colombe is expected to speak at the top of the next hour or so tonight in Jackson, Mississippi. CNN's Annie Greyer is there for us. So the center elect had been adamant that he had a clear path to victory. I can't even begin to imagine how electric the atmosphere, the mood must be there in Mississippi tonight. Anderson, it is truly electric here. I mean, you can hear how loud the music is.

2:43People are dancing. People are hugging. I've talked to people in the crowd, some women in the crowd, especially some black women, who said they really can't believe that they are alive to see this moment, that their ancestors would be so proud to see a black man elected to represent them for the state of Mississippi in the U.S. Senate. I talked to a college student who said he is so grateful that young people turned out this election. Young people, he said, were often counted out, and that he is so happy that he and his fellow college students here at Tougaloo actually stood up for themselves and voted with their conscience.

3:20This is something that Scott Colombe has been saying this entire campaign, that Mississippi matters. He has said that the Democratic Party counted him out because this was such a red state. It has been deep red for so long. A Democrat has not been sent to the U.S. Senate in nearly four decades. A black man has not won statewide since the Reconstruction era. This is a state that President Trump won by nearly 23 points, This was two years ago, but Cologne said that he built a ground game built on the backs of local communities, specifically black women, to help propel him to victory. He said that as more votes were coming in, his lead was only going to grow over the last week.

4:03He was visiting small businesses, wanting to elevate local voices. And I'm told from a source that tonight, Republican Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith called Cologne to concede and congratulate him on his win. And Colom has said that he wants to be a senator to represent everyone and that he wants to work with Republicans, that he wants to find ways to work with President Trump. But truly a historic moment, Harrison. And part of what took so long for this race to be called was there was a lot of provisional ballots and known in the state of Mississippi as affidavit ballots. And that is what made officials have to work overtime to try and figure out what ballots were going to count and what weren't.

4:42But today in Hines County, one of the most populous counties, a very strong Democratic hold for the state. They were able to report their totals. That is what helped put us over the edge for CNN to be able to call and project this win for Scott Colombe. We're expected to hear from him later tonight. And Anderson, as you can tell, the crowd is really bumping and going wild for Scott Colombe here in Jackson. Yeah, Andy Greyer, appreciate it. Thanks very much. In Jackson, Mississippi, tonight. Thanks. Thanks for joining us now, CNN senior political commentator Anna Navarro, Republican strategist Brad Tadde, and Charles Blow, a contributing writer for The Guardian.

5:18Anna, it seemed like, I mean, for the past week, we've been watching this obviously closely. Cologne was saying all along, I know I'm going to win. This is moving in the right direction. It's quite extraordinary. It is extraordinary. When you think about the historical significance, it's just so many aspects of Cologne's, Senator-elect Cologne's election are just astounding. This is a seat that was once held by Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy. Mississippi is a place, I'm sure there are people alive today who remember lynchings in Mississippi. There are people alive today who remember Emmett Till being assassinated in Mississippi.

5:59And so the significance of having a black man elected there just cannot be overstated. And Anderson, this comes after two years of Donald Trump attacking inclusion and diversity, and diversity struck back. He's going to have black senators and a Muslim senator, and he's going to have Latino governors and black governors and openly gay senators. And so all of the people that they've been trying to erase from government, that they've been trying, all the history they've been trying to whitewash, struck back. Charles, I'm wondering, in your view, what were you think the biggest factors in Columbus victory?

6:37And for you, what's it like seeing this?

6:42Well, I mean, he ran a very strong race and she ran a very weak race. And, you know, every time she wouldn't respond to him, wouldn't show up for a debate, he would say, you know, where's where's Cindy? And, you know, he rode around and, you know, had a guy standing on stage in a chicken truck where she was talking about different kinds of proteins. So it was just a really smart, agile race on his on his behalf. But historically, you know, you guys are absolutely right. The last person elected was elected in in 1874. And the reason for that, he served his term and ended in 1881, but he elected in 74.

7:22And the reason for that was because in 1875, white conservatives in Mississippi determined that they would not be ruled by black people ever. And they embarked on a terror campaign. And that terror campaign turned into a Mississippi Constitution Convention of 1890, where they wanted to codify it because they thought the terror was demoralizing their young people. And that held until the Voting Rights Act of 65. But then in 66, Mississippi turned right around and passed this kind of what they call massive resistance. There was 13 major laws they passed to prevent black people from participating in elections in a significant way.

8:04The Supreme Court knocked that down and said you have to abide by Section 5, but they still held on to many of those to the point that Mississippi to this day is one of the hardest states to vote in in America, and that is largely because they do not want black people's power to be expressed in full. And what this race does, what Clombs Victory does is slap all of that back and slap all of that down and say, you clearly did not understand the power of black people, that there is a tradition of protest and resistance in black people. And maybe you thought it was asleep, and maybe it was, but it is no longer asleep.

8:48Brad, you've worked on campaigns with Mississippi. Do you think Cindy Hyde-Smith was an especially bad candidate at this moment in time? I mean, did she just kind of think she was going to win this thing? Well, first off, Charles and I do a lot of panels together. We don't often agree. I want to agree with him on one thing here tonight. Scott Cologne ran a good race, a technically competent, agile race. I think Charles used that word. That's a good word. Cindy Hyde-Smith was a weak candidate. that she, if she had merely gotten the same amount of vote as the Republican congressional candidates got in about four counties, she would have won this race.

9:26She ran behind Republican congressional candidates in literally almost every county by three or four points or even five points. And so that difference, that delta, there are people willing to vote for a Republican, willing to send a Republican back to Washington who picked Scott Cologne over Cindy Hyde-Smith. That is a credit to his campaign. And I think we shouldn't spend any time talking about 1875 or 1885, because that takes away from Scott Cologne's victory. And it's not hard to vote in Mississippi, by the way. I would like to correct Charles on that. Anybody can vote. Everybody polls are open election day all day.

9:59You just got to go vote. They even take absentee ballots in Mississippi after the election, which is one of the few states to do that. So let's not take away from Scott Cologne's agility and the grassroots campaign he did without any help from National Democrats. The National Democrat Party did not recognize his skill. They didn't come in till the very end, and he deserves the credit for this. Well, it's a huge history buff. I'm not sure it's fair to say, like, history doesn't matter and history has no impact on what's happening now. Charles, do you want to respond? Right. You cannot early vote in Mississippi, which is one of the few states where that is the case.

10:35You cannot vote by mail unless it is signed by a notary because you have to have an excuse to vote by mail. Mississippi makes it incredibly hard. Pretending that it doesn't is also just kind of an insult to stocks. Every state should. We shouldn't have early voting anywhere, Charles. We shouldn't have early voting anywhere, Charles. That's the most secure way to have an election. That's how Donald Trump votes. Say someone who wants to impact the vote. Say someone who wants to impact the vote. But listen. No, no, no. You want to impact the vote, Charles. You have a stake in this. You have a rooting interest.

11:08Don't put that on me. By the way, I just tried to agree with you. like you're hard to agree with sometimes what is my what is my what is my Mississippi is a thing what's happening right but what do you say you you you you have a really interest in every race you're you're on the left you're on the left I read your stack you have a really okay can we go back to Scott Cologne guys because this is getting honestly I and I do think that history matters because remember that this is one of the states that seceded from the union because they wanted to keep Scott Cologne's ancestors enslaved. So the fact that he has just won statewide for me as a minority is incredibly significant.

11:45I know how I felt when I saw Javier Becerra and Gina Hinojosa get elected as the first Latino governors of Texas and California. And so, yes, it is significant. And history does make a difference because he has defied what historically had been imposed on him. And another thing that I I think bears mentioning is this this ultimate irony and just karma and chef's kiss about all this is that Cindy Hyde Smith, the current governor, current senator, blocked him from becoming a federal judge. He had been appointed. He had been designated by Joe Biden. And she, as the senator from that state, did not sign off on it and basically blocked him.

12:26And so here he comes back and beats her. Charles, it is also particularly remarkable, given the lack of interest in, you know, the Senate giving money to, you know, to Cologne's campaign. I mean, he didn't he did not get a lot of national support. Listen, this is a wake up call for the Democratic Party. The Democrats across the South for years have been saying we know where the voters are. We know how to get them. We just don't have any money. And Democrats seem to have written off the South as the solid red block. And what this election is saying to them is that it is not. It should not be written off.

13:09And what it has also said to a lot of voters is, you know, one of the things about the voter, about the suppression of voting is that it demoralizes. What this election has done is taught people that you can do it. And that is a genie you cannot put back in the bottle. Now people realize that they have the power to do this if they show up in numbers large enough. And I believe that that will be a legacy of this election going forward. Charles Blow, appreciate it. And Aurora Smith and Brad Todd, thanks so much. Ahead tonight, the White House tries to tell the incoming Democratic House Oversight Chair that doing oversight could become, quote, blatant criminality.

13:49Also, new reporting in both The Wall Street Journal and New York Times that NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang had more than one affair with the company's board now meeting to discuss his future. Next, we'll also get a live report from the building collapse in Brooklyn where several victims, including at least one child, are now known to have died and where New York's mayor is expected to speak to reporters momentarily.

14:14I want to update people on the building collapse in Brooklyn. As we reported at the top, there are now multiple fatalities, including officials say at least one child. New York's mayor just now said two people have been killed and 10 taken to the hospital. We've now seen several dogs on the pile of rubble helping the search for survivors. Simone Procubes is near the scene joins us now. What's going on? What's the latest? Well, there was a lull here at one point, Anderson, just a short time ago. They were switching out the rescue workers. I've been here for the last several hours, sadly, watching as people were pulled out from the rubble by the FDNY and NYPD.

14:51They were brought out. Even a pregnant woman, we're told, was one of the survivors. Her husband was out on the street. He saw her as she was coming by being wheeled. And as you can imagine, he just broke down. But out here, there's so many people out here, along with the rescue officials. But I want to show you, Anderson, the building. This three-story building was attached to this other building that we now see the entire wall is gone from that building. And all that's left is you can see those apartments. You've got clothes hanging in what looks like a closet, a kitchen. But that is the force of this collapse, that it ripped down the wall attached to this building.

15:33And then the three-story building that was attached to it also collapsed. And rescue officials have been working here since 4 o 'clock this afternoon looking for survivors. And while I've been here, I've witnessed at least six people being pulled out. We're told one of the dead is a child. Today, kids were off from school here in New York City for Veterans Day. So many of the kids were home. And really, we watched as many of the neighbors and frantic family members in one case at a church that we were doing live shots from. A woman was wondering about her husband, who was a construction worker.

16:12But the NYPD and the FDNY says the rescue operation is still continuing here. They're bringing in other officers now to continue the search. We don't know the cause here, but obviously a lot of the people who are out here, they want to know what happened and how this happened. And hopefully we'll learn that. But for now, the rescue operation Anderson continues. Yeah, we're going to check in with you a little bit later on. Appreciate that update, Shimon Prokupes. Now Washington, the president's top lawyer today, aimed to brush back pitch at incoming Democratic House Oversight Committee Chairman Robert Garcia.

16:44In a three-page letter, White House Counsel Will Scharf warned Congressman Garcia that what he and other members say and do could, quote, cross the line into blatant criminality. The administration, he continued, will not be extorted, will not be cowed by unlawful process, motivated by animus, hatred, or any other unlawful motive to intimidate, penalize, or interfere with the lawful functioning of government. Congress, as you know, has broad powers under the Constitution to conduct oversight of the executive branch. And Congressman Garcia, as you might also know, famously posted the words lawyer up on election night.

17:16He did not overtly direct those words at anyone, but there was little doubt they were aimed at members of the administration. Now, when asked by CNN's Mano Raju this afternoon whether he thought posting those words was a mistake, here's what he had to say. I mean, I don't know how thin skinned you have to be. I don't know if anyone ever reads the president's true social messages. I mean, give me a break. As to what he plans for the committee to look into, Congressman Garcia had a long list. There are serious allegations about what's happening with the president's family, what's happened at DHS and ICE and the abuses of kidnapping people off the street, the corruption that's happening in boardrooms across this country.

17:57And so it is our job in the Oversight Committee, in the Judiciary Committee, and in other places to investigate. It's not just the incoming Oversight Chairman who thinks so, or just Democrats. Outgoing Republican Congressman Thomas Massey pushed heavily, as you know, for the release of the Epstein files and greater oversight of the administration's handling of the matter. So did former Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and others. And listen to conservative commentator Bill O 'Reilly telling his old friend the president and he needs to get out ahead of congressional investigators by, he seems to be saying, coming clean.

18:29Get out in front of the family, Trump family enriching itself. Because this is going to come hard. It's going to come fast. All right? Get out in front of it. Explain what is going on. Now, there's some kind of illegality or something like that, but it needs to be explained by President Trump or they're going to go wild on it. So far, it looks like the president is not taking his advice. More now from CNN chief White House correspondent and anchor of The Source, Caitlin Collins. So does the White House think it actually has a strong legal argument to threaten Democrats with or is it, you know, just staking a claim?

19:15It's not clear they're going to actually pursue criminal cases or anything here, Anderson, or what exactly the crime would be. Obviously, the president over the weekend was accusing Democrats of trying to extort administration officials or potential administration officials. Particularly, they've been upset over what Senator Alyssa Slotkin warned, where she was saying that even junior staffers in the administration could easily get ensnared in these investigations and probes that they are planning to conduct once they're formally in power. But this has kind of been building over the last few days because the president was so angry last week.

19:49He got angrier by the day after the midterms watching the coverage, not just of the historic Republican losses, but seeing all these Democrats come out and say, yes, we're taking power. We're going to talk about affordability and all of these things we've campaigned on. And we're also going to hold the Trump administration accountable and launch all of these investigations. And so I think he posted that on Saturday, Anderson. on Sunday. His attorney general was on television, including CNN, saying similar. And then this letter, you'll notice it came out today, but it was actually dated on Monday, on November 9th, which is when the White House counsel drafted this and obviously addressed it to the incoming House Oversight Chair, Robert Garcia.

20:27And basically it's a signal of how the administration plans to handle this come January. They are going to fight these subpoenas. They are going to fight these investigations. And they're basically saying it's the ones that they believe are going a step too far. But obviously, Anderson, it's their definition of what is going too far here. And we'll see how Democrats plan to respond to that, because this is going even further than Trump went in his first term when they were ignoring subpoenas or defying subpoenas. They're signaling this is going to be a very combative White House with this Democratic majority here in Washington.

20:58Yeah. I mean, if Democrats take over and they start issuing subpoenas and the White House tells them, you know, we're not going to respond or the DOJ starts investigating Democratic lawmakers, is it just a pitched battle indefinitely? I mean, it's a great question. We spent a lot of time in Trump One and the courts watching this fight play out between Democrats and the White House when they were trying to get testimony or documents or appearances by officials up on Capitol Hill. And basically, Todd Blanche, the attorney general, and Will Scharf, the White House counsel, are signaling that now.

21:29I have Robert Garcia, who's the House Oversight Chair, coming up because, I mean, this is a good question of how they are going to handle this and if they have a plan to try to get around it or what that is going to look like. Because obviously it can eat up a ton of time to have it in court, arguing about executive privilege, arguing all these other matters. And that is a game plan that the White House is familiar with. They've lived this story before, Anderson. A lot of these Democrats were not in power when Trump was in office the last time. And so this is a new ball game for them, essentially.

21:59Yeah. Caitlin Collins, thanks so much. We'll see you at the top of the hour for the source. And as Caitlin said, she's going to be talking to Congressman Robert Garcia, the incoming chair of the House Oversight Committee. Coming up next, we're going to be looking at NVIDIA's Jensen Huang, his job in jeopardy tonight. The latest on what was reportedly his second extramarital affair also will continue to follow developments on the deadly building collapse in Brooklyn.

22:25New reporting tonight on the NVIDIA alleged spy saga that has consumed Silicon Valley, Washington and Beijing. The Nvidia board is meeting tonight to discuss the future of CEO Jensen Huang, according to two sources. There was some expectation among Trump administration insiders that he would be ousted, the sources said. That news was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. But there's more, courtesy of The New York Times. They report that the CEO had a second extramarital affair, this time with an executive who reports to him. The Times says it was with this woman, Kimberly Powell, Nvidia's vice president of health care, According to the Times, back in March, she and Mr.

23:01Huang attended a NVIDIA conference in California and had meetings at a nearby hotel. Quoting from the story now, Mr. Huang and Ms. Powell were seen being affectionate at the hotel. One bystander captured the interaction on their phone. Three people briefed on the incident, said. Mr. Huang's security witnessed the bystander with their phone and sequestered them, the people said. They made the person an offer to sign a nondisclosure agreement. For more on this, I want to turn to Ana Swanson of The New York Times, technology journalist and CNN contributor Jacob Ward and John Miller, CNN's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst.

23:34Ana, first of all, what's the latest reporting the Times has on this NVIDIA board meeting that's underway amid the news of a second affair? Well, my colleague did have a big scoop today about this second affair, you know, making this seem like it's maybe potentially a pattern for NVIDIA's Jensen Huang. And the board has been set to meet to deliberate about this. There have been some reports, of course, that they are considering ousting him. Seems early to issue a decision for sure about all of the board members. But certainly there has been a lot of concern about his actions and what this might mean for the future of this company.

24:18NVIDIA's stock has dropped fairly sharply. And of course, this is one of the most valuable companies in the world. And so these actions have had, you know, direct monetary consequences at this point. Jake, I mean, obviously, you know, as I'm saying, waiting to find out what the board decides to do. Is he too big to fail, to borrow that old phrase? Some people have suggested that, that he's kind of, I mean, he is the face of this company. I mean, clearly he felt he was too big to fail, right? This is a guy who has put himself at the very center of the most central company to the most important American industrial revolution in the history of our nation.

24:58So he put himself in a position where he directly oversaw 60 people and as a result was absolutely central to the operations of that place. And so then the question becomes, can the company do without him? You know, when the first affair was announced, the board said, I can't remember the exact wording, but it was something like they had no reason to believe that there had been a compromising of national security. And they expressed their sort of support for him, that he would continue to run the company. Well, the problem, you know, is like whether you and I or even President Trump believes he's too big to fail, the board has this fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders.

25:38And one of the things it has to do under Delaware law, where NVIDIA is incorporated, is they have to make sure that he's not in any way compromised around the central premise of the company. And the central premise of this company, you know, export controls are an enormous part of that. And, you know, we've just seen in the past, like when you've, you know, whether it's the CEO of Nestle or McDonald's or Intel, like when they not just have an affair but then lie to the board about it, that tends to be when they go. It is the dishonesty of a CEO to the board that tends to sign their fate, and that may be what we're witnessing here, Anderson.

26:08John, would a second affair, from a security risk standpoint, have sort of even made him a bigger risk? It could factor into blackmail, but not really in this case. I mean, the second affair comes into what are the company's conflict policies. Most companies have a conflict policy, which is you cannot have a romantic relationship with somebody down your chain of command. But there's also the other affair with someone who's a spy. That's not, in most places, conflict policies. But if you have a customer who's spending over$4 billion with your company and you have a personal relationship there, and that's not disclosed or declared.

26:51So he could be in corporate trouble with the board just on the rules. Some of the wild cards here is he's not a guy who believes in succession plans. Most boards' jobs are to develop a succession plan. He's got family members and high places in the company. But, you know, as some of our other experts have said tonight, the argument is going to be, you know, he is the company and the company is him. Will that overcome all of this? What role, if any, do you see President Trump playing in all of this? Obviously, he considers Wong an ally in the business community. Well, so far, the president has stood by him.

27:30He has said that Jensen is an honorable man, that he did not believe that Jensen knew that this woman was a spy. However, he is under a lot of political pressure, both Jensen and the president and this administration, from Congress, from Americans who may be able to tolerate a lot, but an affair with a woman who has been deemed a Chinese intelligence asset could be something that crosses that line. So already you've been seeing a lot of calls from Congress to haul Jensen in for questioning to learn more about the company. You've also been seeing more calls these days for increased export controls, saying that the government needs to do more to stop the flow of technology to companies like this woman's company or to China.

28:22So this does seem to be a really just rapidly evolving situation in terms of what it means for both Jensen and NVIDIA. Jake, I mean, how is it possible? I mean, a company with this amount of wealth and international importance and national security importance, how is it possible that his security team does not contain former CIA, former FBI people who would be, I mean, just on the face of it, concerned about him having an extramarital affair with a woman who's running a company overseas that does business in China? Like, how did this happen? I mean, that is a great, it's a great question, Anderson.

29:05and I have to assume he must have people on that. I mean, if you are even a lowly reporter who travels abroad to a country like China, your security people are going to tell you to watch out for this exact thing. No one's after me and my tens of dollars, but you know what I'm saying? It is absolutely standard operating procedure in any important person's trip abroad to point out the possibility of this very thing. And so, you know, there's no way that he is surprised by this or has not at some point in his career been briefed, if not directly told about the possibility of this happening. And so I just think that's got to be the case here, Anderson.

29:48Yeah. I mean, the arrogance, John, of somebody thinking I'm so hot with my leather jackets that this person is, you know, attracted to me. And oh, the fact that she has this company and we're doing business. I mean, it's crazy. Well, my first day in the intelligence community, they called us on, you know, a meeting to onboard us. And they said, if any of you were out of town, you know, overseas on an intelligence assignment and, you know, you stop in the hotel bar and suddenly the prettiest woman in the place is sitting next to you, finding you fascinating. You didn't get any better looking. You know, you're going to be a target.

30:24That's what they told you day one. That's what they told us. And, you know, now he's not bad looking. and, you know, as somebody, you know, who's got a ton of money and influence and power, he's going to be attractive. But the idea that... I mean, it's a classic espionage. It is the most obvious thing in the world. But if you consider the idea that, okay, he talks to the president, he advises the president, but he also knows, and nobody's talked about this yet. He also knows basically the plans of all the frontier AI companies because of what they're ordering from him and what they needed for and what he's building out for them.

31:06So the amount of, depending on how chatty he was with her, the amount of intelligence of value to the Chinese, which by some stance wouldn't be unclassified, I mean, wouldn't be classified, but the value of it could be stunning. Even access to his phone or his computer device, I mean, anything. Exactly. John Miller, thank you. Anna Swanson, I appreciate the reporting. Jacob Ward as well. New York's Fire Commissioner now says 17 people or victims in the building collapse in Brooklyn are now hospitalized. We'll go back to the scene. Also, just a day after a looting impeachment, Defense Secretary Hegseth goes to Arlington National Cemetery and his group gets a reprimand from one of the Sentinels guarding the tomb.

31:48We'll be right back.

31:54All visitors will maintain that sphere of silence and respect at all times.

32:08In just the last few minutes, we've gotten more information from the scene of the building collapse in Brooklyn. It has now claimed at least two lives. According to New York's fire commissioner, 19 people were taken to the hospital. Two of them have died, four in critical condition. I want to go back to see Anishimun Prokipas at the scene. What are you seeing now? So, Anderson, we're back inside a church, which is allowing us to use their window. But the rescue operation is continuing. There was a brief lull. They brought in more of the rescue workers. And now you can see firefighters and the NYPD officers literally, in some cases, with their hands, sifting through the debris using buckets to go through the debris, emptying out rocks and sand and dirt from all the rubble that collapsed here.

32:56They are very focused on this one area, and that's where they've been focused since this happened at 4 p.m. here in Brooklyn, sifting through this one area. This is where many of the people who've been rescued and the bodies have been recovered. They are continuing this rescue operation. They believe there is concern that there may be more people trapped underneath. What's happening here is that city officials don't have a full record yet of the people who were inside the building. And so they're saying this rescue operation is going to continue until they can certainly say for sure that everyone has been rescued.

33:32It's certainly a very tragic night here in Brooklyn, as we've learned one child did die as well and several other children have been injured and this community is a very tight-knit community in Flatbush, Brooklyn and they are certainly reeling and wanting to know how this happened and why as this rescue operation here by these firefighters and these NYPD officers literally using their hands continues. Thanks very much. I will continue to follow this new stunning, stunning moment this afternoon to tell you about. This was on Veterans Day at Arlington National Cemetery. Remember, the old guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, they're referred to as Sentinels, reprimanded a group, reminding them of decorum after someone was heard laughing.

34:21The group that was called out included Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and his senior advisors. This all started when they stopped to take a photo. Take a look.

34:42All visitors will maintain the atmosphere of silence and respect at all times. Senator Anderson, Natasha Bertrand joins us now with more. So can you talk more about what actually happened, who those people were? Yeah, such a remarkable moment, Anderson, particularly because this soldier was not yelling at a group of tourists. He was yelling, of course, at the Secretary of Defense and kind of his entourage there. What appears to have happened is after this Memorial or this Veterans Day event at Arlington, they went to the Tomb of the Unknowns there and they were taking a photo. And Secretary Hegseth was surrounded by his wife, his chief of staff, his deputy chief of staff, and a senior advisor who used to be his producer at Fox News.

35:27And they were taking this photo. And upon leaving, what appears to have happened is someone laughed. and there was some chatter. The environment around this memorial is supposed to be one of complete silence and reverence. And so the soldier whose job it is to remind people of that obviously yelled loudly, something that he does, of course, and the soldiers do whenever they hear anyone making any kind of noise in this area. Unclear if he even knew that that was the secretary of defense that he was reprimanding there. But the secretary of defense's spokesperson released a statement and said, quote, the secretary and the entire department have always honored and will always honor the sacrifices of our military men and women have made to keep America safe.

36:14While commemorating this solemn day, a soldier correctly and respectfully reminded everyone to maintain decorum. So not lashing out there in this statement, but instead recognizing that this was an appropriate thing for that soldier to do. It's interesting because obviously it comes, you know, the day after he survived the impeachment vote in the House, in which it seems like his standing in the administration is more secure than it was, you know, prior to the failure of certainly that impeachment. Yeah, look, this is not a welcome video for Secretary Hegseth, who tries to put out a very carefully curated image of himself as someone who fights for the warrior and someone who, you know, down to the list of reporters is going to call on in press conferences, very much wants to control his image.

36:58And so having this out there, of course, it's not welcome for him, but he's still very much, at least as far as we know, as of tonight, maintains the support of the president, who I should note also had an incident two years ago with a similar breach of decorum at Arlington National Cemetery when he was reprimanded by an Arlington official for filming a campaign style video there. So unlikely that this is going to affect the president's support for Secretary Hegseth. Yeah. Natasha Bertrand, thanks very much. Coming up, nine members of the Kennedy family have joined the fight against President Trump's proposed arch, which would rise just steps away from Arlington Cemetery.

37:32Speak with one of them.

37:40There's new opposition tonight to the president's arch, or arc, as he often likes to call it. Nine members of the Kennedy family are joining a lawsuit to block it. They say the arch will obstruct views of the family grave sites at Arlington National Cemetery. In a moment, I'll speak with former Democratic Congressman Joe Kennedy III. First, CNN, Sunderland, Srefadi. Soon we're going to dedicate a magnificent, triumphal arch to our veterans. As President Trump again vowed today he would build a massive commemorative arch on the outskirts of Washington. They've been waiting for it for 200 years.

38:15A significant new resistance to its construction and its symbolism, with nine members of the Kennedy family formally joining an existing lawsuit brought by veterans D.C. and Virginia in opposition to the Arch. The Kennedys arguing in very personal terms why they too believe it should not be built, saying that it will obstruct the clear sight line of the Kennedy grave sites and JFK Eternal Flame in Arlington Cemetery, destroying an essential element of the grave site's design. And will cast a shadow over the graves of servicemen and women who made the ultimate sacrifice for this country, including the Kennedy grave sites.

38:55President John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Edward Kennedy are all buried at Arlington Cemetery as part of the Kennedy grave site, which includes the JFK Eternal Flame. The administration's own plans show the view before and then after the proposed arch would be built. The most beautiful one is the one in Paris, the Arc de Triomphe. It's beautiful, big. Ours is going to be bigger and more beautiful. The White House responding to the Kennedy's legal move, telling CNN it is unfortunate that some members of the Kennedy family have joined the litigation against the arch as the project is intended to honor our heroes who rest in Arlington Cemetery.

39:37The president had wanted to start construction on the arch last week, after getting the final green light from a D.C. planning commission. However, within hours, the judge overseeing the case halted all work for 14 days, as she weighs a request for a longer injunction against the president's project. Selin Sirfady, CNN, Washington. Well, shortly before air, I spoke with former Congressman Joe Kennedy, the third, who's the grandnephew of President John F. Kennedy and one of the nine members of the family who are part of the lawsuit. Congressman Kennedy, can you just explain what your family's argument is on the legal grounds and also just on a personal level what this means to you?

40:20Yeah, look, our country has no more sacred ground than Arlington National Cemetery. There are over 400 ,000 service members and some of their families. that have been buried there. Obviously, Anderson, you're aware of the history here. It was the grounds of one of the last battles of Robert E. Lee's army. And it looks out over the Lincoln Memorial as a way to unify the North and South and has been hallowed ground literally ever since. Congress, in trying to preserve the nature of that sacred territory, has set up a series of rules and structures to make sure that any territory around the District of Columbia, D.C., can't just be built upon willy-nilly.

41:00There's structures that have to be done, and Congress has to authorize it so that it's done according to the appropriate rules and regulations. This arch went through none of those. And as members of families that have loved ones interred there, as hundreds of thousands of American families do, all we're saying is, look, you've got to go through those policies and procedures. You've got to make sure that this is done the right way. Nobody gets to just decide that they're going to build a 250-foot building that is going to change the context and contour of this territory. The White House spokesperson told CNN, they said, It's unfortunate to see that some members of the Kennedy family have joined the litigation against the archers.

41:41The project is intended to honor our heroes who rest in Arlington Cemetery. I mean, this has been talked about as a sniper nest location, storage of sniper ammunition, which is no longer in, I guess, the plans for this. Do you see this as a project intended to honor heroes who rest in Arlington Cemetery? Look, I'm not certain the White House messaging on this has been consistent, as you as you say here. Right. I think most importantly, it doesn't really matter what I personally think about it. It's what does the American public think? Because Congress has set up rules to do exactly that, Anderson, to make sure that as if you are going to irrevocably alter the nature of this holy, sacred ground that is Arlington and other parts of Washington, D.C., by the way, that you have to go through a process whereby the public is informed, whereby Congress authorizes it.

42:37And therefore, the American people can speak to what it is that is going to be done and how and the implications of it. The administration has acknowledged that there's going to be negative impacts on Arlington by building this arch. They have changed the rationale for it repeatedly. And what we are saying as living members of individuals who are interred there, my namesake, Joseph Kennedy, was a World War II pilot who was killed in World War II. His remains were never found. He's got a memorial tombstone there right next to my grandfather's, right next to both of my great uncles. I'm not alone in having numerous relatives there.

43:11And all we are saying as family members that have have loved ones there is you got to go through the process that Congress laid out. A president of the United States doesn't get to sidestep that because they want to build a building. Not the way it works. Just finally, I want to ask you about what we are seeing now tonight in Mississippi with I mean, I know you have worked hard the last several years in Mississippi for Democratic candidates. What are your thoughts tonight seeing Scott Colombs win there? it was uh it's an extraordinary day for our country and this victory belongs to uh center lomb and the people of mississippi they have been working we've been honored to work alongside them for for five plus years in people of mississippi with the people of mississippi from organization groundwork project but anderson as you know the first black senator in this country came from mississippi the second came from mississippi it's been 150 years since they've had another one mississippi has been working so hard to get there and they just didn't and so So huge kudos and credit to them.

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