Can Britain be Saved? Lawrence Fox V The System

31:56I can control how I behave. So I, that's the only thing I can do. And without me seeing my ex, difficult as the whole situation has been in the long term and very draining, and as you say, these times when you want to quit, I wouldn't have those two beautiful boys. And I also wouldn't have my amazing Lizzy now. Because I'll tell you one thing, Lizzy is the exact opposite of what my ex was and um that is a you know i feel like i'm getting my cup filled back up again yeah that's a beautiful thing and that's the beautiful thing egging through some dark times because then it makes you realize okay i don't want that so it gives you all the signs that you need not to do the same mistakes again missed my son's buff missed his first tooth missed his first what missed his first word things that i can never get back everything i'm about is family everything i do it is for my family and to then be tarnished and put on the media in the six o 'clock news from allegations and try and destroy someone's life and you look at what other men are going through which is nothing compared to what i'm going through but i'm still going through some shit and i've worked so hard over the last 77 years to create a reputation a great platform for people and build friendships and build relationships never had any exes do videos or talk shit about me online because it never happened i believe i'm a good guy made a lot of mistakes when I was drinking and taking drugs back in the day like majority of people from the UK but when you're dealing with that that's a different ballgame and I will be starting a campaign for men with the names that I've got and the popularity that these people have we will be supporting men because men have got rights too men deserve a chance men deserve a voice it's not all men you don't have a cult no they don't fucking care and that that never I've never tasted that I've never experienced that, I've been in court cases, I've been in prison but I've never experienced this when I'm sitting there paying 40 grand for someone to assassinate my character but I'm actually paying to sit there fighting to see my son but yet all these people are trying to stop me because of false accusations and statements and things getting expanded and this and took out of context and you're thinking what fucking chance have you got it's so disheartening.

34:20All you want to be is fair. You do. Fairness is a... but the fairness is not towards us, it's to the children. That's who needs to be fair to you. It's got better now, but I used to look at my kids playing with their cousins and my kids looked like they had heavy lead coat cloaks on with the stuff that they were having to bear. And it's like getting divorced is bad and it happens. And there are reasons why it happens. And, you know, some of it's not our business really particularly, but the least you could do when you got divorced would be to put your children first. But I suppose if you're married, you know, I blame myself a lot.

35:05I used to think I'd try and work out whose fault things are. I mean, I've stopped now, but back in the day, I would try and work out whose fault things are. At the end of the day, as my mum used to say, it takes two to tango, it's never one person's fault. But in this circumstance, you know, of our, yeah, as I said, the longest running family court case in the UK at the time, I'd not bought a single court case against my ex-wife, not one. So I do go, there's men out there who have nothing, who are, you know, suicides, killing, biggest killer of men under 50 in this country. And why do we think that is?

35:51Because, you know, if their marriages fail, the courts will shit on them. If they don't, you know, if they're not some sort of odd, dimpish, non-binary. Women will call them, you know, toxic male. They're treated with real disrespect. And, you know, they've got to raise children. You know, you raise children. My dad was hard. You know, he wasn't a bully, but he was tough. My mom was tough, too. And we were raised tough. And I think it's no bad thing. I don't see why everyone has to be like, cuddly, cuddly. you know I had a kid come round to my house a friend of mine's kid and he's a bit you know he's lovely sort of kind of you know he's like a mad kid like a kid and he went and he opened up the door to my chicken house and he let chickens out and it got savaged by the dog and he came in crying and was all upset and I was like alright now we're gonna go you did that so now we're gonna go and pluck the chicken and we're gonna eat it how's that for you mate and he hates me at the moment.

37:01That's good. But it's important that you don't just go, oh, don't worry, darling. You know, it's like, no, you have to take responsibility for your actions. The best thing you do as an adult is teach your children that life isn't fair. It's the best thing you can do. And, you know, mothers who think that they can teach, protect their kids from stuff are denying them the chance to become an adult, which is very, very hard. Yeah, I think we're living in a world you can't really wrap them up in a cotton wool because it's ruthless out there. and I believe a big part of mental health from men who take their own life is because not able to see their kids or women and now listen I'm not targeting all women because there's some amazing women I believe the universe revolves around women I believe their energy and their essence they're so amazing how they give birth and how it all functions men build the world women create it in my eyes but we need each other but to stop a man from seeing his son is probably one of the worst things a woman can do and with honestly thousands of messages from men I was told you can't post this and that, but I need to defend myself.

38:01You want me to wait a year, two years, three years with allegations that people will love to believe because they want to have one up on you anyway. I know it's easy to say, push through this and that. A lot of men haven't got the money. A lot of men haven't got the energy. It's only the time when they want to jump off the top of the building, which is when you need the strength, really. Yeah. I've stood on top of my house on New Year's Eve 2016. and I was like, yeah, I can't deal with this. All the stuff I'm being accused of, I can't deal with this. I should chop myself off this. And then his voice just said, don't do that.

38:39And I didn't. And then I said, all right. I was doing a deal probably with God. I was going, right, well, I can't feel like this then anymore. So I don't want to feel like this anymore. Otherwise, I can't get through the rest of my life feeling like this every day. and I then went to bed, and I woke up in the morning, and I didn't feel like that ever again. But that's when you need the strength, it's that moment where you think, what's the point in being alive? You're running around, the reason you exist is to nurture and raise your children, and you're being denied your reason for existence. So, you know, also my dad did say, which I've said before, it's quite funny, I said, I don't feel like living anymore, and he went, well don't kill me, darling, she'll be thrilled.

39:27That's a great accent, isn't it? You've got a very soothing voice, you and your dad. Your dad's a very smooth character. Like he just looks Hollywood. Your dad, he just looks the part, you know what I'm saying? But it's such important for men to remain strong and realize, again, it's easier, I says, but to come over the tough times, it does make you a whole different person, especially hitting that rock bottom and thinking there's no way out here and that's the way the courts want you sometimes they want you broken, they want you beaten but kids need their dad and that's the hardest part, I don't know who my kid's around, I don't know if he's safe I don't know what else is going on because I know how my mental health was so I can only imagine how the other person's head is and it's not healthy for anyone so it is what it is but I'm glad you've got yours sorted I'll get mine sorted I need to go back to the family courts first of all I need to sort the criminal courts which I'll do and that is what it is question time a big part of your life but the racism and hot world news it kind of then that's when things kind of really changed for you wasn't it when the questions time stuff the megan marco but what was the actual story to it all i i'd written a um an album and um on the album was a song which was a bit political it was like everyone's gone mad they i think it said they put something in the water they seek a cure for the con they want to murder conversation yeah it sort of goes on like that and um truth basically yeah and um i'd i'd been invited up to go and perform it on a live live lounge at bbc in wherever bbc is manchester i think and um then they said do you want to go and do question time after and i was like sure and i think that they were expecting me to be a lovey, you know, be like, hey, you know, I just really like private air travel.

41:26The planet needs saving, but I like Learjets, or whatever. And they found out that I was not like that at all. And someone in the audience said, let's call it what it is, it's racism. to Meghan Markle. And I was like, no, it's not racism. And I rolled my eyes. And then she went, well, you can't say that because you're a white privileged male. And I went, no, that's racism. Don't talk to me like my privilege comes from my skin color. My best mate has got a fucking brain hemorrhage in a hospital right now dying because he got kicked in the head by a black prisoner and he's a white prison officer.

42:06So don't talk to me about white privilege, which is what the part I didn't say, but the fury of it came across. And then my phone exploded. The media had found an actor who actually told the truth and didn't, you know, wear trans kids exist, T-shirts and stuff. And I thought... Hank's the family fixer, always with his tool belt. But living with prostate cancer, he needed help. He asked his doctor about Xtandi and xalutamide. Xtandi 40-milligram tablets treats men with prostate cancer that has spread to other parts of the body and responds to a medical or surgical treatment to lower testosterone.

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43:15Common side effects include muscle and joint pain, feeling unusually tired, hot flashes, constipation, less appetite, diarrhea, high blood pressure, bleeding, falls, fractures, and headache. Talk to your doctor and visit X-Standy.com. I knew it was going to come at some point because the tension in society was rising so much in a way that I wasn't going to be able to hide. And I got to this point where I thought, you know what, if life is worth living at all, I'm not sure there's any amount of money. I got to that thing with Lewis and I got to it with other things. I thought, there's not any amount of money you could pay me to lie about things that are not true.

43:52you know, there's no, I don't, I still don't think there is today. I don't think there's a single pen, in fact, I know there isn't, there's nothing you could pay me to not tell the truth as I see it. Um, and so then these straightaway, these, which I'm sure came from Meghan Markle's team, there were allegations of racism, which is like, for me is kind of bonkers because A, I'm a Christian, so I just don't believe in stuff like that. And if I did believe in it, I'd be commanded not to do it. So I would resist that. And B, it's just one of the very things that I'm just not. I mean, I'll notice someone's skin color, no problem, but I won't assume any inherent qualities on someone based on their skin color.

44:42So they start calling me a racist. And I was like, what? I'm just basically quoting what Martin Luther King said, which is content of character is what matters, not color of skin. And then, because I didn't back down, and I kept coming back, because I'd also worked out that this was going to happen to me at some point, so therefore I decided that I was going when it came, when the attack came, I wasn't going to surrender to it. Because there's nothing worse than somebody who or something, and then has released a very long statement saying, I'm really upset, sorry to offend the trans and non-binary community with my insensitive misgendering of Dylan Mulvaney.

45:20And I was like, no, we're on now. And since then, it's just got steadily more brutal to the point where now they want to lock me up because I won't refuse to stop speaking. Then again, you have another choice, which is like, do I live in a prison that you've created in my head? Or do I live free in my head in a prison that you've created for my body? It's one or the other at this juncture. And again, much as I think I'd probably not be a very good person to go to prison, I'm not gonna... Back down? Fuck them. I think you've came to a fan now. Yeah, well, also fuck them. Kill me. I'm at the point of like, kill me, because that's what they want to do.

46:07They want to put me in a prison and they want to go, oh, well, the prison officer was looking the other way. We didn't see what happened. And, you know, he got shunked in the eye. And, you know, these things happen and we're really sorry and thoughts and prayers with the family and we're going to have an inquiry. That's what they want to happen to me. If they could have killed Tommy, they would have killed Tommy. And they'll, you know, that's their plan with me. Everything's control. We know now with the ULIS, you were very outspoken against that. They thought you were the ringleader or the blade runner himself.

46:38What was the case of that? They're trying to ban me. When I was in court the other day, I've got a week off this week. Thank you. I was in court the other day, the Crown Prosecution Service, the most corrupt fucking organization out there. Wow. To see some of the sentences that get handed down to people for doing things that I find, And I think any normal member of society finds absolutely horrendous, like the possession of grade-A images of children being sexually abused, that Hugh Edwards had, you know, the most depraved images of children to walk free with a suspended sentence and a BBC pension, and these vile, racist anti-Semites driving down Etware Road screaming, murder the Jews, rape their daughters, no further charges.

47:32The people that beat the shit out of the police in Manchester Airport, never seen the light of day. Ricky Jones apparently is going to court at some point soon on a much-soften charge for trying to rouse a mob to murder us. And then these kids, these feral kids that have been diversity as our greatest strength in London, burning an old man to death in his home, getting six years, and then to think that if the Crown get their way, on the four cases that they've managed to get against me, they'll be in jail for the same period of time for speaking. I just think we are in a... I don't think they quite understand what happens if you lose trust in really, really important institutions, like the police.

48:25us Southerners used to sort of look at Hillsborough and go, what are they complaining about? It was just, you know, it was a crowd and it went a bit wrong. Why are they so annoyed with the police? And then you start to read about Hillsborough and work out about Hillsborough and you go, you fucking bastards. You know, and you really start to know what the relationship with the police is. I've had firsthand experience of being harassed by the police. They very much enjoy harassment, and I very much enjoy calling them pigs in return. But you now have the institutional thing of the Crown Prosecution Service, which is lied to us about Axel Rudy Kibana.

49:04It didn't tell us anything about what he got up to. The public will never even hear what he did to those girls, because it's so horrendous that we will never know. But we were lied to, and Keir Starmer, before he threw a load of political prisoners in jail for tweeting, he set up the febrile atmosphere in the country to be about the far right, when it wasn't about the far right, it was about people who were fed up of this and consecutive governments, giving our homeland away to people who have no affiliation with us, no desire to assimilate to within our culture. And this kid had an ISIS manual and enough rice in to kill a market town, and no one was told.

49:49We were told he was a Welsh choir boy. He was in Doctor Who once. So I look at that whole system through the lens of saying, this is much more corrupt than even I could have anticipated. I usually anticipate things as being pretty corrupt. Systems are are bent towards corruption, aren't they? So, um, it's, I'm in shock that people aren't up in the air. I'm really grateful that Alison Pearson did such good work with Lucy Connolly. You know, everyone says stupid things. They do. I'm not, I am, I actually am very much more, I wouldn't even say she wrote a horrible tweet. I'd say she wrote an emotional tweet.

50:36She also used the word, for all I care. which means don't do it. It's like, for all I care, do it. It's like having an argument with your parents. You die for all I care. You know, it's like, this is normal. It's being passed down through English language. It's not 30 months in jail for speech. But what they're doing is it's the same as the, um, the sort of Sadiq Khan's double speak on diversity is our strength. It's really not machete-wielding thugs stabbing the shit out of people in London isn't diverse, isn't their strength. It's something you should crack down on. Because if you, and I'm just walking here today, I was telling you, if you tolerate the behavior that you see on the streets of London, you get more of it.

51:22And it's horrible, London. It's a horrible, horrible place to be. And I'm so glad I'm out of it. But I do hope that the English and the Scottish and the Union, once we've been almost thrown out of this country, which we will be we take it back i think so i think we're strong enough but it just seems to be at its weakest i think people have had enough people but are now scared like you say with lucy connelly getting two and a half years for a post that she deleted three hours later while your paedophiles are still walking the street you've got the immigrants who are throwing acid in people's face raping kids raping mothers and yet they're getting community service they're getting a slap and arrest they're not even getting sent back immigration for me looks like an invasion it looks like people are coming here with no passports no background checks to do and rip through these cities and streets and do what they want and yet everything thinks oh yeah invite them into your home it's nothing to do with that it's nothing to do with being racist people call you a racist your wife is black you know what I'm saying it's absolutely crazy you're not racist because you see all I want is better protection for my kids Scotland's not as bad yet but it looks as if it's moving up north and that's the scary thing and it needs to come a stage where something needs to change people can't hit the streets anymore because they're getting sent to prison so there's no protection but people are just concerned parents we need to be careful listen to what the people say and listen to the voices of the nation what people want just a bit of protection for people coming from war-stricken places families kids children whoever of course protect them try and help them but not young boys in their 20s early 20s coming over on their boat with knives and and other mad shit guns it looks as if it is a setup but i actually interviewed david dyke's son jamie he was saying because the uk has been so powerful for hundreds of years he says we're not supposed to win this war he says a man wrote three letters predicted three wars the other two wars came true the third one is when uk gets invaded and he says that we're not supposed to win this one because they want to stamp down at everything that china does facial recognition, everything's control.

53:30They want the whole world like that. So if China win the war, then everything is under control or under one roof. Apparently. So apparently it's just all a set up. Whether that's true, I don't know. But I'm sure the power of the people is stronger than the people in power. But it's just a case of when there becomes so much unrest, the UK is not going to be a good place to live. Whether it's a civil war or people just riot and for change, it just doesn't look good and it doesn't seem safe. Even walking about London, you're on My son got broke the other day, and it's like, he's a clever kid, I really admire the way he dealt with it.

54:06He's really clever, the way he dealt with it. That's my son, you know? And it's like, how much more will people put up with? I think probably quite a lot more. Britain has always been, you know, oh, I don't, you know, okay, you know, we'll put up with it, just develop it, but at some point. it's when it's the the moment comes doesn't it when it becomes really obvious to everybody that they're losing that their country is gone and it's finished and that's when they will stand up to do it we're already in a cold civil war already you know which is why they're trying to lock up they have locked up tommy why they did lock up lucy why they're going to try and lock up me why they're going to try and lock up anybody who points out how craven.

54:54I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if in 100 years from now people are digging up Keir Starmer's grave and hanging him, you know, like they did with Cromwell. Because they're... And it's not just Starmer. I mean, he's dreadful because at least the Tories, you can blame the Tories for their millions in immigration because they thought it would actually make us richer. Classic Tory trappy. didn't think at all about the cultural impact. Just thought, oh, well, increase GDP. Great, let's do that. But Starmer does it because he's one of those no-borders people. And that's psychopath Herma, who's his attorney general, who went out of his way to make sure that this economy got punished properly, you know?

55:36And the institutions, I was reading a tweet by the head of MI6, and I thought it was a joke. He's like, you know, in solidarity with our LGBTQIA++ two-spirit wankers, we're going to be flying the pride flag outside Vauxhall Crafts, outside MI6. And you're like, right, okay. And he's got his pronouns in his bio. He's a Marxist. Sex Marxism is all of this LGBTQ crap. So if you've got a Marxist in charge of the spy service, you got a Marxist in government, his front bench. Rachel Reeves is a liar, proven liar. She has no idea about anything. Your country's being invaded, and the best you can come up with is, we're gonna go and fight Russia.

56:28You're like... When does people wake up and just go? Americans sent me a meme, and I must preface this for saying, I don't endorse it, but it was very funny. The meme said, it all went wrong when you stopped hanging people.

56:48And back in the day, that's what we used to do to traitors. We hung them. And I think the behavior that's been meted out on the British people is traitorous. to think that my children will have to grow up in a sectarian war with people that see our land as just another part of the caliphate that they want to expand. And my kids are gonna have to raise their grandchildren like that or hide their faith. That makes me pretty angry. How do these people get in power? People talk about Michelle Obama being Michael Obama. Then you look at Macron's wife, apparently transgender which is a big a lot of evidence suggesting that's true I think there was section 18 1988 I think it was when they stopped speaking about homosexuality in schools it stopped for many years now it's all back it's went from this is the gayest generation ever and I've no issues with gay people I've got gay friends and I always feel as if I have to say that it's like because kids believe and gravitate towards the being taught and if it's put in their face long enough then they kind of believe in it no issues whatsoever but I was saying I think section 18 I think it was I don't know if it was Maggie Thatcher but she stopped speaking about it in schools she believed in the family home and everything but everything's changed everything's went even you look at the French Olympics look at the opening ceremony with the beards and the hairy armpits the women all trans and I've no issues but what's it got to do with sports what's Harry Kane wearing a rainbow armband for like keep it away keep your politics away from sports be who you want to be but we don't need to shove it down people's throats but it just seems mad you are all you're never short of controversy but you then burned the pride flags as well what was the method behind that i do it every year um well it's because you've got to sort of understand what the pride flag the progressive pride flag is.

58:51I'm a bit like you, and a bit, um, I'm sort of fairly liberal, really. I mean, in lots of ways, I've got no issue with gay people at all. The minute I have, the only issue I have at all with anything is I don't want men in women's changing rooms, because I know what I think if I walked into a changing room full of naked ladies, I'd be pretty happy about that. So you want to kick, that's why we have ladies changing rooms. so they don't have to have a bunch of men walking around in them. And I don't think children should be subjected to either be over-sexualized or be subjected to irreversible medical interventions that mutilate their bodies and stuff like that.

59:32But what happens is, like the left, you say, why are they winning them? Why are they doing so well? And it's not so much the left as the devil, because it's not a left versus right thing, it's a devil versus God battle at this juncture, they are really well organized. So they, you know, and there's lots of secular reasons for it as well, like the overreach of stuff like Stonewall, who, you know, did a lot of great work for gay and lesbian people back in the day, but then they just, once that wasn't an issue, they had to move on to a new one to keep the funding coming in. But the flag itself, I'm kind of sympathetic to the rainbow flag.

1:00:11Being gay in my, I've got, I've got a girlfriend, even in our youth, was just coming into being a bit more normal. People obviously weren't celebrating it, but it was, you didn't need to fear for your life if you came out as gay when I was young. 20 years before that, I think it would be a different story. So I understand why a rainbow flag pinned up in a pub somewhere to say to gay and lesbian people, by the way, this is our code that you're safe and you're not going to get in trouble in here and it's not bad. What I object to is the adding of the political stuff. I mean, it is political anyway, the rainbows, they took out one of the colours and all that, fine.

1:00:57But the political stuff with the transgender baby blue, baby pink, which is obviously chosen for a reason, the baby blue and the baby pink. These are the fails. And the white, which is the paedophiles. Minor attractive person, the plus in the LGBTQ+. And then the O, which is in sex, or sometimes they have an 8, a sort of infinity shape, which is for autism. And then they've got a brown chevron, which is for anyone who's brown and gay. like who fucking cares and then we got a black one for Black Lives Matter and it's like Black Lives Matter is a political Ponzi scheme where you stole a shit ton of people's money and went and bought a few houses in Laurel Canyon so instead of parading it around the streets of London and it's fake as well so it's not real and it's migraine inducing so those that fly it proudly will have in response someone like me pointing out what is wrong with it and I'll burn it and I will burn it every year until it's made illegal to burn it, like the Nazi flag, which they did to me before when we found out that four progressive pride flags arranged in a certain way as a swastika.

1:02:11And their way of responding to that was to turn around and go, they tried to arrest a guy who copied me and they deactivated my social media account for it. I'm like, ah, do you get it yet, guys? What's the only other flag that you're not allowed to do that to? It's the Nazi flag. Are we proud of the British football team giving a Nazi salute when playing Germany in the 30s? Are we proud of that? Or are we going, we followed a stupid fad to try and appease other people? And that's my issue with pride. I think it's kind of finished though, really, to be fair. I think people like Michael Knowles in America, who's been very good on it, and the Daily Wire guys, and just little acts of subversion, like me burning it, has helped people go, it's not so cool.

1:03:03And I see when I go into my son's school now, when they all used to part like the Red Sea, because he goes to the world's poshest school full of celeb people in it. They used to part like the Red Sea. I see some of the kids come up to me and go, I'm a bit all right to them. So I've stopped being the Hitler, and now I'm a bit Like, the youngsters are sick to fucking death of it. A couple of years ago, I was chatting to one of the little guys at my son's school about the trans thing, because there's a few little trannies in the school. And he was like, well, you just got to be kind to them, you know, nice to them, and let them get on with their lives.

1:03:43And you speak to them a couple of years later, like, these fucking people are weird. They demand that you treat them all special. They're wearing a dress. If you forget to call it him or her, You know, it's like, they're sick of it. They're sick of it all. Yeah, it's tiresome. My daughter was in private school and I had to take her out because one of the girls was identifying as a cat and the headmaster let her carry a litter box into every other classroom. I thought, I'm paying 20 grand a year for a school and I thought, fuck that, fuck off. It's crazy. It's just crazy. People are so... Cat, fake hair and everything, little fucking fake ears like it was nuts.

1:04:18What's wrong with the parents of these kids? It's just like, stop it. I thought it was a joke when they were telling me. I thought, fuck off, like it's a private school. But like I say, be who you want to be. Just when people start doing all this stuff, it just seems a bit over the top. And it was classed as a mental illness, just a few years back. You can't even say that now. There's so much you can't say is if stay quiet, let us do what we've got to do. Let us stop away the families, divorce rates through the roof, go through the family course. The divorce rates are through the roof because we don't love families.

1:04:54And somehow, as people have managed to convince women that the happiest they're ever going to be is beating men at stuff, including sport and stuff. And you're just like, well, then what happens is, as we've noticed, the men are quite as good just going to run the women's teams and beat them all. But the idea that convincing a woman that the best thing she can achieve in life, I mean, I think anyone should be able to achieve anything. My niece is a very, very good top footballer for her age, and I'm really proud of her. People should be able to follow whatever their dream is, but to convince a woman that the last thing she wants to be is a mother is insane.

1:05:40Yeah. And to convince men and children that the whole world's gonna burn up in some sort of climate changey, you know, apocalypse movie is just so pathetic. It's like, life is hard enough. I don't need Ed Miliband sitting there playing the ukulele talking to me about climate change. Just fuck off, Ed. I'm gonna have a fire and turn the radiator on, because I'm cold. Or I don't need your heat pump. If you can come up with some lovely piece of design to, you know, make the world cleaner. We're all environmentalists. Everyone wants the rivers to be cleaner, the fields to be nicer, the nature to be more diverse and wonderful.

1:06:22But they don't want that. They want a sort of human-less world. They teach our children that there are cancer in this planet. And I think that's why kids don't want to breed and they don't want to have relationships. Lockdown, you're very outspoken as well. Everybody seemed to break and bend From lockdown It really showed you the strength of Not just the UK but the world How easy it is to be controlled For me it looks as if it was just a test run For what's to come But you were very outspoken Never wore a mask Never bent a break Just done your own thing I believe you lost your mother during lockdown Saw it, hear that Five people at a funeral Couldn't even hug anyone It is ludicrous that people had to stand outside windows And watch their wife give birth And nurses are coming to the window saying sorry you've lost a loved one like it is how we accepted that is beyond me now i was very open about it and done nah this ain't right but with so much pressure i did question i don't want to harm my family or my loved ones am i doing the right thing by not getting this certain jab or i did question it but something just wasn't right internally for me something didn't make sense thankfully I never but when you look at it the laughter that people who created this must have been looking at everyone in the world and thinking wow how stupid are you's of George Carlin isn't it imagine how stupid the average person is and then imagine that half of them was more stupid than that it's a um I it was it was I mean I knew it was bollocks from the I heard earlier because I was a relationship with a journalist at the time the lockdown came, and she phoned me up and she went, don't tell anyone, but they're about to announce that between 500 and 700 ,000 people are gonna die in the UK from coronavirus.

1:08:18And I was like, that's bollocks. And she went, what do you mean? She was really anxious about it. And I was like, look out the window. And she said, why? Are there any planes in the sky?" And she's like, yeah. And I was like, then it's bollocks, isn't it? Because if 700 ,000 people were about to die like that, they'd shut the airports. No one would be allowed in. Everyone would be thrust into isolation. You wouldn't have a sort of partial lockdown where, you know, it wasn't about saving the NHS or overwhelming the NHS. It was just a series of really, really stupid decisions made by very frightened people, or it could be a absolutely, as you are suggesting, and I think I'd probably lean towards that very carefully meticulously exercise way of beginning a math formation psychosis so that the next time they try it on, which they can try it on over climate or whatever.

1:09:15Yeah, I was just straight away, I was no. And in fact, when someone tells me to, you know, we have such good senses. you like this local bloke, and he came into the pub the other day, and he was sweaty on his head, and he looked rough. And I said, are you all right, mate? And he was like, I feel rough. And I was like, okay. So what I did was I didn't shake his hand, or give him a hug or anything. I just, I kept a bit of distance from him, because I knew he's probably got something, and I don't really want We have this very strong instinct in ourselves to survive, and we don't really want bugs particularly, but we do need to get them.

1:09:57It helps our immune system. So it's like, if you can avoid it, you don't want to get ill just before your wedding, or if you go on holiday and stuff like that, you're probably a bit more careful, whatever. But, you know, it's just, it's safetyism, and it's, you know, it's a Chinese bioweapon that was unleashed upon the rest of the world. and the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind took place in a two-year period. GB News, you had that weekly slot there. Yeah. Doing well, sacked. Yeah. Is it Eva Evans? You says... Eva Santina. Eva Santina. You were having a conversation with Dan, who I like as well.

1:10:39You says who would shag her. Yeah. Was that the time the police came through your door? No, they came through that door next morning but did they come through for that no was that the uly's thing that was you know yeah how do you feel about the gb news thing would you think you were set up or was that okay i maybe spoke a bit much there i accept it how did it all work i don't really know too much about it well i mean it depends on when you follow woke rules right because in woke rules i really should be getting an award because i've just said i don't want to shag someone surely that's like an award isn't it in Wokeland.

1:11:14But I don't think they got to the... I don't know why they hired me at all, in the first place, because it wasn't like it was a secret what sort of person I was. I'm quite a controversial person, and I'm articulate about what I'm controversial about. I should have, in hindsight, I should have probably... I'm easily provoked. It's one of my weaknesses. I don't like injustice, and I really don't like, after certainly what I've been through, and what we spoke about earlier in this conversation, a lot of men have been through in terms of that, for her to say that male suicide was a cultural issue.

1:11:56If I'd just said, how dare she say that male suicide is a cultural issue, but by this time, I'd sort of, I'd developed it into a, don't ever shag someone like that, or form a relationship with someone like that, because they will destroy your lives. Don't ever go near a woke feminist. She will ruin your lives, which they do, because they think they're entitled. And that was what I said. I don't really regret saying it. I've heard much worse said on television by a lot of people. And, you know, but GB News are... GB News very much are trying to operate within their, you know, the grown-ups table set of stuff.

1:12:35You know, it's the same as reform. It's the same as, it's just like, we'll just stay in the grown-up's table stuff and not say anything that people actually think, which kind of makes them pointless. But I don't, you know, they could be allowed to like me, you know, I could have said it better, but I don't, I'd say it again, and I don't really regret it. And they can take, I don't, you know, it was a miserable place to work, full of, um, I loathed going in there. I hated going in there on the, to go and do my show. And every time I said, I'm going to say this, they went, oh, you can't say that.

1:13:06And I'm like, I thought you said you're the home of free speech. And like, yeah, but you can't call it the National Death Service. And I'm like, it's funny. You've got yourself in a lot of trouble with your words and I don't want to get you in any trouble. I don't know what you can speak about and what you can't. You shouldn't be able to get in trouble for words. But you've been fined 180 grand. I think you called a drag queen a pedo or something and you had to go through courts with that. And then is it Narendra Kowa? Yeah. Who you've had on GB News? Yeah, I used to get on well with that. with the photo, with her coming out of a taxi, she had her fanny out, but that was on the papers, was it not?

1:13:40Was that not in the newspapers? You shared that, she's then charged you. Because even her online, I don't really know her personally, but she's just talking the same as everybody else. It's like for hits and clicks, but how did that, when you got charged with that, can you talk much about that? What's going on with that? I'll find out next week when I go into court. I think it's just bonkers and insane, and stupid. Photo, very common practice. I was in showbiz back in the day. I know what the girls used to do, especially the girls who were like, with all due respect to them, not famous. What they would do to try and get themselves in the papers, and nip slips, and forgetting to wear your pants was quite common.

1:14:30And the deal was done with the paparazzi so often, where they let that happen. And so I find it astonishing, I've been charged for a crime that was done by someone else 12 years ago, when I wasn't even around, and I had no idea who it was, but welcome to, as I said to you, when they want to get you, they'll get you for something, and you just have to fight them, and make sure it gets put in front of a jury, because I don't trust judges. Their libel case, I was called a racist. And bear in mind, again, how much the world has moved on in five years, I thought, this is really important, I've been called a racist, we need to challenge this, because I'm not a racist.

1:15:21Now it doesn't mean fuck all. I mean, everyone, people get called racist every five minutes, and it literally has lost all of its meaning. And I don't care if anyone calls me a racist anymore, I'm just like, yeah, whatever, Dr. Scholar, whatever your name is. But the judge, I asked for a jury in that trial because I knew a jury wouldn't have found me to be a racist, because I'm not one. But you don't get a jury after the defamation act. And the judge, I was called a racist, so I just said, well, you're going to call me a racist, I'll call you a pedo. It's a rhetorical device. It's like, I'll call you something, you've called me something I'm not, so I'll call you something you're not." And the judge didn't even address my counterclaim in the very expensive court case that ensued.

1:16:07So I don't have any faith in judges either. But maybe I'm the problem, and my speech is the problem. And it probably is to some degree, but I don't think we should start from a position of speech being an issue. I think you should start from absolute free speech and work your way back from there. And probably stop. I think the American model is very good. It's not incitement of violence unless you incite the violence at a specific time to a specific person. So how can you get charged for a photo that you never took that's in the public domain that's been shared around anyway? By the person herself.

1:16:42She shared that photo also? Yeah, and encouraged people to share it as well. No way. When was that? Oh, God knows. It's in the evidence bundle. It's like... So what's your, yeah, but the chards, you know yourself, that they try and discredit the name, they try and throw mud. What do you think needs to change in the UK? I think we need to get parliament to sit a lot less often. So I think parliament should probably sit once a week and then they can stop making stupid fucking laws. I think we should pay our MPs more money, so that they're not so unbelievably corrupt. And I think that we need to get rid of a load of laws in this country, certainly pretty much every law that's been bought in since 1997, since Blair began this socialist insurgency, the reinsurgency into Britain.

1:17:36And I think we need to stop getting involved in other people's foreign business, and I think we should focus on our own business. And I think we should prioritize the well-being of our own people ahead of all other people. And if at the end of that, we have charity to offer, we should give charity. But I think the first thing, I don't think we have any role to play in Ukraine at all. It's not our dispute. It's got nothing to do with us. And I don't really think that Britain should you know, continue, and America either should continue this desire to go around the world trying to solve the world's problems.

1:18:16I think we've got enough problems here of our own. Go to a seaside town, you know, go to a mining town up north and see what people get up to there, now that their industry has been stripped out. And what are their kids doing out there, other than smoking spice and cycling bikes down empty high streets? You know, we need to invest in our country. We need to have, there's a shit ton of shale gas beneath everyone's feet. We could turn Britain into an industrial powerhouse again, if it wasn't for Ed Miliband and his Chinese solar panels. And I think we need to shut our borders and we need to make people learn English and we need to say, you're not, we don't do face coverings here, by the way.

1:18:56And in public, you want to wear it at home, wear it at home, but in public, we'd like to see your face. I think we need to have belief and faith in British culture, and we need to get rid of the idea of diversity of anything other than opinion. Because diversity is basically just a way of saying, you're all different groups, you're not human beings, you're not valuable in the same way. A lot of black people come up to me and say, thank you for not pandering to the whole, you know, we're black so we're a bit thick and need help stuff. It's rubbish. It's not, it's, you need, it's a very normal world that we lived in, which even I can remember growing up in, where we focused on family harmony and, you know, good relationships with our friends and working hard and good things like that.

1:19:45And then, you know, along came Feminism 1.0, which was good, because, you know, feminism, women needed rights. But it's now got turned into revenge. I think wokery is an offshoot of vengeful feminism. And it's just like, let's just, we don't need to be at each other's throats all the time. I can think that Islam is horrible whilst liking a Muslim. It's possible. I can love you as a person and not like your ideology. It's that they're not, you're not one and the same. If someone says, you know, you're a lunatic because you believe in Jesus Christ, I'll go fair enough. You can think that you get, you can, they can say Jesus Christ is now see, I can't, I hate him.

1:20:29You do it. I don't care. I mean, I'm, it doesn't hurt me, but don't tell me that I'm not allowed to say anything mean about your sky wizard in return, or if I burn your Quran that I'll get jailed or fined. but if you burn our holy books or desecrate our monuments or do things that you know we've seen in the marches coming through london some of the stuff that's being said from the river to the sea palestine will be free of what jews you know this that's what that's all about and um i think we need to we if we we i don't i don't not convinced it's saveable uh without my major major messages being sent i think certainly the two million people that have been imported here in the last two years they need to go what needs to stop the votes illegal immigrants stop the money legal and and illegal yeah yeah i think gert wilders is exactly does it stop donald trump seemed to have stopped it in a day well they love the country down like that they say they locked down the armies can lock it down in 15 20 minutes apparently they could do you think it what do you think their method is then who do you think is behind it all why it's happening why would they want a nation so strong to be so weak, it doesn't make sense to me.

1:21:45Because it's a very fundamental of ideologies like Marxism, that you kind of subvert all normal human situations, and in the search of some sort of strange utopia where everyone just loves one another to his strength and all that sort of stuff, that borders are incompatible for these people. They think there are no things such as cultures. You can live anywhere. Mark Carney's got three passports. He's got an Irish passport, an English passport, a Canadian passport. He's Prime Minister of Canada. It's like, I don't think you should have Muslim MPs. You know, I don't. I don't. People standing up in Parliament going, what are you doing about Gaza?

1:22:31It's like, what are you doing about your bin bags, babe? What are you doing about your on as a woman about trans issues. It's like, yeah. But you know, unfortunately, probably believing in free speech is the way, the only way out of it is free speech. How much do you think you've spent in court cases?

1:22:54Probably about, well, in all of them, including family court. Must be a few million, a couple of million. Yeah, easy, easy few million, yeah. Was it worth that? not seemingly so far but how many court cases are you dealing with now and what do you think the outcome's going to be for you do you think you're going to get prison time or do you think okay listen you have came close but it is a bit far fetched what do you think the outcome's going to be for you especially the way you're going now though look at what they're doing to Tommy you know what I'm saying I'm surprised there was a surprise that he actually got out I don't think he would have made it out because he's just become so too big with like the support he's getting from like Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson like some mega names now supporting them so that's a major risk for the authorities.

1:23:44Yeah I think that they will they will do their best they will do their best the crown in the ULES case we were actually quite surprised the crown were the ones that were saying because you can just plead guilty if you want. Magistrate's caught. Magistrate can lock you up for 12 months, and that's that. But the Crown were pushing for harder on that one. So whether they... And they're accusing me of being like, yeah, the Don Corleone of 700 of the 900 ULS cameras that went down to the value of something like a million quid, and they want an A1 charge, same one they gave to Lucy Connelly. So they've gone straight in on a 1A or an A1 whatever they call it, which is, you know, that's up to 10 years in prison.

1:24:33No way. Fucking hell. What about the other ones? I don't know about the, the Narendra Core one I'd find so laughable. I mean, I will take it seriously, obviously, come the day, but I mean, it's just like, it's so unbelievably politically motivated, all of them are. There's just politically motivated attacks on me, and if they want to if they want to come and fuck with me then come up with me how was it sitting in your house and they've came through your door because i know i love my dogs i've got two rock whalers which i would do anything for them but when they came through your dog and your dog wasn't there like was that not a concern because i was very pleased my big dog wasn't there um because he would have been killed by the place because if he doesn't like it when people like he's he's really gentle, lovely dog.

1:25:24He'll lie on top of you, and he would protect. So I was really grateful he wasn't there. The thing I find reprehensible about the police coming around to my house for speech and tweets was two things, really. One, the fact that they took my kids' iPads and phones and broke them. Returned them broken nine months later, what my kids have got to do with it. So that's just Stasi-esque bullying by those little greasy pig fuckers. And the other one was the fact that, while I was in the car, being driven by however many of them there were, you know, these little chunky losers, they were getting calls for like stabbings, suicides, emergencies.

1:26:19They were getting calls and they were driving me, little old me, great threat to the society down to the police station. And they were loving it. And they love it. P.C. Jones, he loves it. And I saw him at court the other day, and I always make sure I give him a nice wink, and I always make sure that I tell him, I let him know. The sad thing is, there will be a lot of good policemen and women out there, but there are some dreadful ones who wake up in the morning and they tuck their fat little bodies into their uniform and they feel really pleased about it, and that's the way they get won over people.

1:26:53And I like to make sure that they know that I have won in life and they've lost. They can do whatever they want to me. At this juncture, what else? I mean, other than kill me or lock me up, what can they do? And I'm beyond giving a shit about corrupt police forces, and corrupt politicians, you know. If my role is to suffer, so that people can see it more clearly, then that's my role. I can be the John the Baptist, and then when someone comes along who's actually got some integrity, and decides they want to stand up and defend this country before it goes to shit, which is we don't have at the moment.

1:27:43But someone will come. How was it dealing with the death threats? Because it's not just what you're going through and the money you're spending in courts cases and police and everything that you have to put up to. Listen, with being so outspoken, people will say, well, he brings it on himself. But to get death threats is a different ballgame. How was that experience for you? It's shocking at the beginning. And then I got very panicked and hired a security team. and then... Is that Hobart that got out? Yeah. And then after a couple of weeks having the security team, I was single at the time. So, you know, they don't make dating fun, security teams.

1:28:25So I just thought, you know what, this is living in fear too. So I have all around the house, not far from where I need to grab it, should I need to grab it, that I've got protection. And, you know, I tend to walk around with my hood up and a pair of sunglasses on and a cap, and I don't go on the tube. How bad were the threats? I had a guy who said he wanted to unload a shotgun into my face. I had, um... It was countless after a while. But it's just, you know, the difference between a death threat and a credible, violent interaction is so different because 99 % of the people I bump into are really nice to me, if they recognize me.

1:29:17Yeah, they're really nice. So I know, and I also know that a lot of what I say is pretty commonsensical. I may go a bit too far with it in a sort of hyperbolic way because that's where I come from in the acting world and stuff like that. but I'm not saying stuff that's bad. I'm not saying like, go and hurt someone or go and do that. I'm just saying they're corrupt. This is a part of shit. Why are English people treated like second-class citizens in our own country? And why do I not have the freedom to criticize your ideology? It's like, it might be controversial, but to me, it's actually like pretty common-sensical.

1:29:56Sounds bad, but that's how I feel. If you were a Prime Minister, what five things would you change? Again, I think I would say that if you were ever to bring in a law, you'd have to get rid of two. I would close the borders immediately. I'd get rid of the Scottish and Welsh Parliament. Why do we need those? I would say I would just remove the government from everywhere it doesn't belong, I think. I would sort out the health service so that it provides really top-quality health care for people that can't afford health care and the people who can should pay for it. Simple stuff, you know, and try and promote maximum human flourishing, just like the best things that can happen to you, everyone can achieve.

1:30:41If you've got kids from disadvantaged backgrounds, you know, you should be able to spot them. We used to do it with grammar schools, and, you know, you should spot them and give them a chance to get up and move up in the world. You know, instead of saying, well, this dragging everyone down to the bottom thing, Lois Coventon nominator. I would just say Britain is called Great Britain for a reason. It's great. So make it great. Where do you go forward for the future? Especially with all the court cases pending and the stuff that you're doing. I don't know at the moment. I have no idea. I've said this to my missus the other day because in so many ways I'm so unbelievably happy because I've found the best woman.

1:31:21I'm blessed with beautiful children. I have my health, which is really important. but I have this stuff hanging over me. So I tend to kind of just, at the moment, what I do is a lot of gardening.

1:31:40And I write, do a lot of writing, I do a lot of gardening, and I try and live quite peacefully until next Wednesday and Thursday when I'm being caught two separate days for two separate cases that they're throwing at me. And I hope and I pray that at some point, you know, someone picks up on the fact that this is happening again. You got all upset about Lucy Connolly and now it's happening again. And they're doing it to someone else. And they're shutting down more people. Lucy Connolly was a deliberate one, you see. Lucy Connolly was to make everyone frightened. Whereas I'm different because I'm a more high-profile person.

1:32:21Mine is about them exerting power. So, Lucy Connelly was to say, it could be your mum, your sister, your niece, your hairdresser, your best mate. That's what Lucy Connelly was. That was the message to send to the public. Shut up, or you'll get one of those. But with me, it's about going, we and Tommy, I suppose, it's about going, we'll destroy you. So, you know, that's... What you have to do is just try and keep the mental fortitude for it. And it's tough, that is. where do you actually think you would be without your missus um could you possibly be a 2016 kind of return again or do you think she's because you know yourself we need women we need that blonde we need that partnership to make us stronger with the right person but where do you think you would actually be i'd be um i'd be shredded really, because it's pretty shredding.

1:33:22It's difficult though as well, because you don't want to confess to the people that are trying to destroy you that any of their work has any effect. You don't want to, because you feel like you're giving them something, and I don't ever think you should give them something, but I'd be shredded without her, yeah. And she's a one in a million, when it comes to, she's also calm. So if she's not, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm like fire and then I'm calm, but she's calm and her fire grows. So she gets more, more annoyed about things rather than like, I'm really annoyed about something straight away and then I'll calm down about it.

1:34:07But without her, I don't, I don't know. I don't, I, I love my kids too much. I love her too much. I love my dogs too much. I love the view from my window too much. I love the thought that this country will get a lot worse, but it will get better. And I love the thought that they, I know that they can't take my... They can do anything to me, but they can't have my brain or my heart. They can't without cutting them out. And then they're useless to me anyway. So fuck them. And I think that's the, you end up in that position, don't you? Do you ever feel you're banging your head against a brick wall though?

1:34:46Yeah, all the time. I feel like I'm the problem now. I feel like maybe I'm the problem and I should have just been woke and it would have all been fine. But, um, Do you ever think of just stepping back and going, okay, no social media, I step back and let it be. But then - Well, I was doing that. I was, I'd committed to doing six months, three months or six months, I can't remember, a bit for my own wellbeing. Cause I thought, I need time away from this, I'm writing this book, I want to finish my book." And then, two and a half weeks into not being on social media, the charge arrived for a Narendra call.

1:35:23Because I'd complained to the police that she was calling me a sex offender online. I said, you can't do that, I can't call someone a sex offender online. So instead of responding to my complaint, they charged me instead. So you actually put the complaint in first? Yeah. Did anything happen to her? No, yeah. And then she then, nothing happened to her, no. Yeah, hopefully you get it all sorted out, man, enjoy your wedding, enjoy your future. I will. The greatest revenge is to be happy. Yeah. And that's, it's not easy, but the greatest revenge is to be happy. And they won't, you know, they will, it's, I, I, we're all going to face our maker one day, you know, and if I'd spent my time trying to bully, abuse, demonize and persecute people, I don't imagine that's going to be a very pleasant interaction, but you know, my conscience is pretty clear.

1:36:24For anybody that's watching or listening, it's maybe scared for their kid's future, for their own future, the state of the UK and listen there's so much beautiful stuff happens in the UK as well so many beautiful people but people are genuinely concerned for their future so many millionaires leaving so many other people just leaving I think there's over 10 ,000 millionaires from the UK who's fucked off so something's quite not right but for anybody watching or listening that's maybe struggling to see a better future what advice would you have for them? Speak up starts in you we are mighty we are mighty mighty people and we have to speak up and if we speak up things change and if we don't they won't they'll get worse but we're all going to speak up in the end because you know you saw that guy on the tube and everyone was going isn't it a horrible vile racist man and he's just this little old man go fucking do it in my country like have you ever seen that and part of me is like, no, I don't like what he's saying, but it's this sentiment that so many people have, which is when are you going to actually care about us?

1:37:31Just a little bit. And so I think the only way you get people to care about you is by asking them and making sure that they do care about you. And in the short and medium term, that's, you know, people are voting the Union Party out of existence at the moment, aren't they? Which is really good. What about the grooming gang stuff? Why do you think it's all been swept under the carpet for so long? A lot of it is now at the forefront and a lot of people have got a better understanding of it, but why so much cover up? Because of the way schools educate children in this absolute myth that the British Empire was this vile, racist, hellhole organization that took over the world and went and stole people's land and countries and all that sort of stuff, when in actual fact it was 200 ,000 people who went and made the world a far better place, with exceptions.

1:38:22And we're taught that we deserve it, and that anyone who comes here with different cultural practices be that the total acceptable nature of raping young British girls, because they're fair game, white British girls, that we just have to call them out as racist. And I'm like, it ain't racist to call out a rapist. You get the language right. But we've got to believe in ourselves. We've got to believe that our girls don't deserve that. And we've got to believe that are, you know, those that believe in Christ should not tolerate churches where transgenderism is preached, and we should not tolerate our schools, um, teaching the children the divisive crap of diversity and inclusion that they do.

1:39:06But it, you know, reform are doing this slowly, which is good. You know, they're taking DEI out of councils. They're taking, um, critical race theory out of councils, and this is a phase. It's a bad phase, but it is a phase. Human beings don't like living like this. We're not a happy time, but we just need to speak up. And you need to be brave and know that when you do speak up, there are going to be consequences. What do you think of reform? I think it's a shame. It's real sad. I think it's a shame, because I don't really understand the cultural element of it at all. And I think Nigel is a very brave and wonderful fighter for British sovereignty over many, many years.

1:39:55And then I think he's seen the number of people that turned up to the first Tommy march in London, and he's thought, my constituency is here. But I don't think he's Trumpian. Trump is amazing, you see, because Trump gets the sort of... The cultural stuff is much harder to define. It's a culture of making America great again, isn't it? You know, it's like culturally, we've got to make it more wholesome and better again. Whereas I think Nigel sees everything like a sort of set of sums. And, you know, the way he treated Rupert Lowe was appalling. And the way I don't think it works, sees got a Muslim chairman.

1:40:35Because, you know, I think that's going to be hard work. What about the Russell Brand situation? What do you think of that? I don't know. And that's even worse. I think charging someone historically with sexual abuse and rape is going to be interesting. I need to look at the evidence. The worst part of it is I automatically think it's dodgy. My first response is, that's dodgy. That's politically motivated so that's what and who wants to live in a society where your first response is never you know that's the problem you want to really have faith in your institutions like was my my kid got marked i'd say i would never tell him to go and find a policeman i'd say go into a shop and find a lady or something like that don't go anywhere near the police ever but i just hope everything changes like i said there's so much goodness in the uk there's so many good people that people are kind people are generous people are beautiful all colors all religions all fucking sexualities but just with what we're seeing and it just it just a lot of unrest and hopefully things do get better just before we finish up brother i know you've battled yourself in 2016 with mental health but for anybody who's really struggling and feels like jumping off that building as well what advice would you have for them right now pray Pray.

1:42:00Just pray. Literally. Say, I want to do that. Have the conversation, and you'll be spoken to back. But far too many people, far too many men don't feel like they've got a way out. We are a progressive society. We do talk a bit more about how men feel, which is good. but um it's it's a horrible horrible place to be and you can get yourself out of it and you just have to pray you know because you can't get out of it by yourself that's for sure warrens thank you for giving me your time today brother i know you're a little hungover i wish you all the best for your court cases hope you get it all sorted and hopefully when's the next rally is it the 28th of september yeah and um yeah hopefully everything sorts itself out and people can breathe again and walk the streets and feel a little safer but again would you like to finish up on anything else i'd like to see a million people there at that rally that would be amazing i'd like to see we are you said it the power of the people is more than the people in power so yeah we just need to remind them of that before they make it legal which they're trying to do now get out and you know when you can't be bothered to say something say it, normalize these conversations.

1:43:22So if someone says something really pathetic or stupid, or shuts you down or accuses you of something that you're not, just stand up yourself. And if it means going to an employment tribunal, go to the employment tribunal. Fight these people. If a million people tweeted, if a million people walked down the streets tomorrow and burned a Quran, Quran burning wouldn't be illegal in this country. Well, it's like I said - You're alleged. Have a great weekend, have a great wedding, hope that everything sorts out, all the best thank you dude