Don’t Comply: The Truth About Digital ID - Gareth Icke on the Hidden Agenda

34:15To the point where it becomes obvious. And then, you know, like COVID, you know, people are following arrows around bloody Tesco. It was pretty obvious what was happening. So then people rebel against it. So they go, oh, back up, back up, back up, back up. And then they just wait for a little bit, and they wait for everyone to get complacent, and go back to the football and all that kind of stuff. And then they just creep and creep and creep a little bit more. And each time they get a little bit closer to the goal. I think with the digital ID stuff, for me, the way I look at it is what the plan is, is to basically have an ultimate control system, where what you say, what you do, where you go, what you eat, everything is all centrally controlled.

34:53Right. And you can tie your carbon footprint into that of like, sorry, mate, you can't have steak, you can't buy it because you've used too much carbon this month or whatever. So they'll control it like that. And it's a question, is that how you want to live your life? In China, I think in 2018, it was, I think 23 million people couldn't use public transport because their social credit score wasn't high enough, their compliance score wasn't high enough. They couldn't access bank accounts and stuff like that and if you're happy with that then fine that's going to be the world you live in i'm not overly happy about it um and and the problem that you find the apathy that you find from people here all the time if you're not doing anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about right well one that's so freaking naive but also who determines what's wrong and what what isn't because what's wrong and what isn't changes over time because if i went back to the so you're an 80s kid like me.

35:48If I went back to, say, 1990 and said to, you know, 10, 11-year-old you or 9-year-old you, whatever, you do realize that, you know, by the sort of mid-2000s, women are going to have cocks. You'd think I was mad. Like, you'd laugh at me. And not only are women going to have cocks, but actually it's going to be a bigoted view and an offensive view for you to say they don't have cocks. So stuff changes over time, right? Because if, like I say, you go back 30 years, you'd think someone was mad for saying that. Now, yeah, that's the accepted, you know, of course, you know, of course men can have a womb or whatever it was David Lammy said, you know, it's just, or cervix wasn't it?

36:22Yeah. Men can have a cervix. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah. So stuff changes. So what, what is acceptable now won't necessarily be acceptable in 10 years or whatever. Um, and this is what comes again, comes back to the whole tribal thing of winning. So you've got one side is winning now. So if you're say a MAGA fan, you're a right fan, you might think you're winning now in America. Um, Um, but, and so therefore what you say is fine, but no one agrees with the state on everything. They don't. So you had people overwhelmingly probably more on the right, although the left, right Overton window shifted so much, I don't even know what's what anymore, but it was overwhelmingly the right that would stand up to the COVID tyranny.

37:05And you'd have those on the left that were almost cheering on, not all of them, of course, but you know, cheering on in a way and calling us, you know, COVID idiots and granny killers and all this kind of stuff and celebrating our censorship, celebrating my dad being deleted off all these channels and all that kind of stuff. Well, you roll forward to now, a lot of those people on the left are probably more supportive of Palestine. So they would be supportive perhaps of Palestine action or whatever. Now they're getting deleted and banned and deplatformed. And the people on the right are cheering it on.

37:35And so it's that tribal thing. Like for me, like I believe in free speech period I don't you know I don't have to like what you're saying I don't have to agree with what you're saying and this is coming from someone that has got a freaking load of abuse like over the years do I mean and I still do like nothing like I used to to be fair but you know you can say horrible things about me and it's your right to say it you know I mean I remember when my sister passed away like literally the day she passed away um I was like I was off social media but I was getting notifications from people and I was seeing that people were sending me messages so of course i was replying to them and at some of the tweets like there was one guy who was literally like you know um how much of the responsibility for her death falls on david and and like added my dad and then added me as if you know we had anything to do with my sister being ill um and it was like a real horrendous thing to say and i was livid mate as you can imagine i at least wanted to just reach my hand through the screen but i was just like block done i don't need to silence that guy i don't want to hear from him anymore because he's blatantly a dick but i don't need to silence that guy i don't need to report him and and you know want him de-platformed or even quote tweet him and send the hordes on him whatever he's entitled to be a dick yeah but it's ego sometimes i fucking i respond and i think fuck them like i get sometimes i just it just depends what they they catch in but i'm i'm Massive for free speech That's what I'm all about Say what you want Hate speech Could that really be free speech If you're If you're hating on someone Like death threats You know I don't agree with all that Like have your opinion Like if I Support Scotland You support England That's okay I don't care I'm not asked you know Like I say with the Palestine Israel I'm not educated enough For outside of the UK I don't know And if I'm honest I don't care Because I just know Wars have been going on For so many years It's nothing to do with Who's right or who's wrong it's the people who fund both sides I want to question the people behind the curtain like for me Palestine 60, 70 ,000, 80 ,000 deaths one third their children like that is a massive genocide no matter what way you look at it the Israel side I think there's 2 ,000 deaths I don't agree what happened was it the 7th of October I don't agree with that but who's behind that you know like I said I'm not educated enough I know we spoke earlier and Israel was British Palestine before it became Israel So there is a lot more to the story I don't know who's right or wrong Like I say I'm not educated enough to give my Tuppence worth but if I see someone Get killed for me all war is murder All killings is murder there's nobody right there No matter who you're for No matter who you're celebrating No matter what flag you're waving If there's innocent kids getting killed in Palestine Nigeria, wherever That shouldn't be fucking happening We shouldn't just be waving our flag and saying And supporting one country We should be supporting the whole fucking world every human being every right every race every religion the people are getting harmed for being nothing for being free and not really doing anything wrong you know but I think we've got extremists all around the world who play their part and play their part in this divide who are getting paid money for everyone to hate and fucking nobody wins then because we're banging our head against a brick wall and the people who are pulling the strings for everybody are just rubbing their hands and going look at these fucking idiots they're laughing at us mate what pisses me off to be honest in terms of the Israel-Palestine thing, even if you're not educated on the history of it or whatever, is the moral, you know, the picking and choosing of morality I find very strange, particularly among kind of elevated people more on the right.

41:11Because I remember when October 7th happened. Now, you know, I'm a firm believer of the fact that October 7th was allowed to happen. Even, you know, someone like Charlie Kirk, who's a staunch supporter of Israel, is saying there were definitely stand down orders it's been mentioned in the jerusalem post in the times of israel talking about that so there's something clearly was allowed to happen but even if it wasn't when it happened the first thing i did was oh my god that's that's awful i tweeted at a friend of mine gal who lives in israel's like mate are you okay you found me okay he's like yeah yeah mate we're fine like blah blah um i got called a zionist shill which for an eye kiss like i didn't see that coming um and then within like a couple of hours it was pretty obvious what was going on here.

41:52So a couple of former border guards had already spoken out and said, this doesn't make any sense. Like it took six hours for them to respond, the IDF, bearing in mind Israel is like the size of the state of New Jersey. You mean it took six hours to respond. The border guards were taken off of their posts on the border. And then, you know, I remember one of them saying, if there was a cockroach near the border post, like we knew about it. So there's no way they didn't know. And then it comes out that America warned them that it was coming. Egypt warned them that it was coming. In fact, someone had even warned them that the Nova Music Festival was going to be attacked, and an IDF commander went to the festival the day before, didn't determine it to be a problem, so cleared off.

42:33So there's an aspect of, was this allowed to happen in order for them to get the excuse and whatever to do what they've done and take the land, which is what they want. But at the same time, innocent people were killed, and that's horrendous. So then, you know after a few hours i started saying like this is this is going to be huge like this is going to lead to something much bigger and then i got called an anti-semite again i was like i've been a zionist shoe and anti-semite within two hours that's pretty impressive i'm going to wear that as a badge of honor and they've gone on and murdered and murdered and murdered and and what i find abhorrent to be honest mate is is how you can justify the death of a child on one side whilst bemoaning the death of an adult or a child, whatever, on the other side.

43:20Like, all killing is wrong. And I don't see why that's so hard to say. When we went, particularly with the COVID stuff, because it tore the COVID movement apart, split it in half in terms of the resistance, there was people that I knew, personally, that I knew had gone to vaccine centers and shut down vaccine centers when they started to roll out for kids, because they're like, I don't care if I know these kids or not, I'm going to protect them that were suddenly justifying kids having their limbs blown off. And you're like, contradiction. How can you do that? Like all, all killing is wrong. As a matter who's doing it, all killing is wrong.

43:56And suddenly, you know, calling out the Israeli government became an antisemitic thing. And you're like, but I can call out Starmer. You call out Starmer all the time. I can call out, you know, Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia. I can call him a head chopper. That's fine. No one's going to call me Islamophobic for saying that. I can call out Trump. I mean, I'll get a bit of abuse for that, but you can call out Trump. You can call anyone you want, you know. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50 page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.

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45:15Yet you call out the Israeli government for what it's doing in terms of killing people. And suddenly you're a bigot and you're like, how did that happen? And even now, so many influential people are out licking the wall again today. Everyone's been summoned out there. It's really strange. And it's dividing. Again, it's dividing everyone. And I'm wondering why so many people are going out there, if they're patriots, when actually their own nation is, you know, we're in a war of our own in terms of fighting against digital ID and all this kind of stuff. And so for me, like, I was, you know, trolling all the tweets of, you know, your Tommies and all these other people in the lead up to the digital ID protest in London, not people.

46:00And I'm thinking, mate, you're over in Israel, you're doing your big wall thing, in your propaganda tour fine whatever you do you hun but at the same time you've got a massive following in this country you had i mean how many people it was at the united kingdom rally yeah i've heard three million i've heard whatever but it's either way it's a lot of a lot of people if you just imagine if 10 of those people listen to you when you said there's a digital id protest in london today do you know i mean so i don't understand why there seems to be this obsession with going over to this country in the Middle East, a country that basically was formed on the back of terrorism and blowing up the King David Hotel, which killed 93 British people and all that stuff.

46:47They were supplying Argentina with weapons in the Falklands War. Everyone looks the other way on that, and you're obsessed with that. It's like, mate, for want of a better term, I guess your country needs you, guys. And so I find that strange and that's dividing a lot of people as well when was israel formed was it 1940s that why why are they so big why are they so powerful why is everybody talking about why is donald trump touching the wall why is all the biggest names in the world touching this wall what is behind it was it was it run by the british empire yeah so basically essentially that the french and the british historically have have got a lot to answer for in terms of the middle east anyway and so you had a situation where the the Belfort Declaration was if you've ever read the Belfort Declaration which basically was written to to the Rothschilds basically promising them a homeland but if you actually read it to be you know to be fair it says that nothing must happen to the indigenous population that live there the Palestinians but they've just you know taken over everything.

47:51I think on one level, it's like some hella religious messianic crazy stuff in terms of this biblical land of Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates in Iraq. That's what they believe is the biblical land of Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu even said, I think about two or three weeks ago, he's got this spiritual connection to the idea of the greater Israel. He saw soldiers in in Gaza fighting with the Greater Israel map. So there's part of that. And then you look at what the Greater Israel is, you're like, right, okay, well, it's part of Egypt, part of Saudi Arabia. It's all of Gaza. It's all of the West Bank.

48:34It's all of Lebanon. It's a large chunk of Syria. And then you look at American foreign policy, a chunk of Iraq. You look at American foreign policies since, what, the 90s, and you're like, I'll make that make sense and this is another thing that confuses me in terms of the patriotic movement that's against mass immigration like I get that like me and you are probably actually quite rare in the sense that we're against mass immigration but we're also against the killing of of Muslims in the Middle East for some reason you seem to need to pick a side which I don't yeah I'm not like not having that but I feel as if when I was watching social media and I feel as if I was gravitating towards one I had to pull myself back because that's not me i'm not everyone i want a peaceful life on the planet whether you're really whether you're muslim christian jewish whoever you are as long as you're happy as long as whatever message you promote and you're not harming anyone i'm not care i don't care don't force your agenda on to me i could be religious next week i could be religious tomorrow 20 years i don't know what sort of cards i'm going to be dealt in life but right now i'm just that guy who just wants to question everything and just don't take a side james because then you're no different you know and we need people to be awake and understand and compromise with people and just have some common sense.

49:50I think we're losing common sense, you know? Massively. Why do you think, like, Palestine and Israel has got so much media attention? Why they too? I mean, you look at what's happening in Nigeria with the Christians and nearly 100 ,000 people killed, nearly 20 ,000 churches being burnt down over the last few years, no media attention whatsoever. But why Israel and Palestine? Why is that so popular? Well, I think, you know, for one, it's clearly a significant part of the world for a large percentage of the world's population that follow Abrahamic religion for one but also you know I've asked that question too like I've I've seen Israel getting vilified a bit in the mainstream media over the last two years that never happened before so I'm my spidey senses are saying what's that about because I'm seeing the media saying stuff they would never have said like you know they were killing you know thousands of Palestinians and like 500 kids, like 2009, 2014, 2015, there were these massive, and a little bit of media coverage, but it was always Israeli-sided.

50:53Now suddenly that's starting to shift, which I question, you know, of course, because I'm like you, you know, question everything. But I try and look at it in a way that I just want, you know, sound like a hippie, but I just want what's best for humanity. And to me, Palestinians are human beings. they're not animals like the Israeli government describes them and a lot of people seem to think they are and so I find it strange that there's this obsession you know Tommy's over there at the minute basically on a propaganda tour where he's just vilifying Palestinians and it's strange to me because it's like you've got this huge movement of people in this country that are against mass immigration which I am as well so I get that so they hate mass immigration but they really hate Palestinians who are the only people that don't want to come here like they literally don't want to come here they want to stay in their homeland so that doesn't make any sense to me if if anything surely you should be supporting those people because it's like if we support them we should support this when when like tommy and others um katie hopkins and and all of the you know gb news and a lot crowd were talking about the fact that it was horrendous that they were going to like trying to promote a palestinian state well if you don't have a palestinian state and israel gets all the land which is what they want.

52:07What do you think is going to happen to those Palestinians? They're coming to England, and they're coming to Europe. They don't want to, but they are. So why then? That's where my spidey senses are going. Well, why would you then support the nation? And even while they're out there at the moment, you've got government ministers saying on live TV in Israel that they need to clear the Palestinians out of Gaza and move them into Europe. Why would you support the nation that wants to increase immigration when your whole schtick, your whole movement is being against mass immigration into the country.

52:38It doesn't make sense to me. So I'm kind of trying to figure that out, and I don't get it. Why do they want their land so much? They believe that it belongs to them. God promised them that land. I don't think all of them believe that. In fact, I think a lot of people that peddle the God's chosen people stuff don't actually believe that. They probably don't even believe in God, to be honest with you, mate. But it's a means to an end because it gets support from Christians because they believe that. Again, it's a religion thing. It's insane. Religion is, we talk about left and right, it's a massive divide, but religion is just as big.

53:12With the Muslim and the Christianity, it's so big. Religion has caused a lot of wars. I genuinely don't think the way we're living now, I don't think Muslims and Christians can live in the same country. I think there's over, what, 40, 50 Muslim countries. I think there's a good few Christian countries. I don't think both can live together Because both are trying to overpower And I think there's so much extremists That they promote that message And the thing about human beings What I'm learning even more now We are easily manipulated very very fast We are sheep by the way We look like so fast We can watch a video And totally make up our mind straight away When you've only seen one video You know we can be gravitated so much If somebody is so well spoken And talks with a set of balls We go yep that's the man Look at Tom Robinson, Andrew Tate Look at the following they can get because they speak with confidence so human beings in a whole I don't think they're asking the real questions and that's where I'm at now I think the whole world is a fucking mess when you look at social media because people just jump on the Ukraine flag because it's trendy, people jump on Palestine, Israel, the news could promote something about Israel tonight and show a kid and a bomb forever an explosion, show a couple of kids, then people would gravitate towards Israel, like the The manipulation in social media And I think AI Is involved with social media Because I was watching it Me and you can look at a post And totally see different comments And the brain is a program It does program you So I need to be careful now What I'm watching I've stopped scrolling as much now I was 8 to 10 hours a day on my phone You know I was losing myself Until I started stepping back Now I'm starting to feel good again I'm starting to really question Why I started Because I was losing it I was losing I wanted popularity I wanted the fame and the money and you kind of lose yourself.

55:02I lost my importance. Stop being a fucking idiot. Go back to what you do. Do a little bit of research and then speak from the heart. Speak what you believe in. Sometimes you get it wrong though, but you need to own it. Go, okay, I was wrong there. I had the wrong information and that's okay. But I think social media right now. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports.

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56:38Before you hit play on your next song, text the group chat. It's time to plan a trip to St. Pete Clearwater. Learn more at visitspc.com. It's dividing the world. I think with everybody on technology, it doesn't have to be a side. Well, it does have to, because people are choosing a side from social media because of what information they're seeing on X. X is the most toxic fucking app on the planet. I don't give a fuck if it's free speech. I'm all for free speech. But it's all about fucking dead bodies. It's all about hate. It's left. It's right. It's Muslims are bad. It's Christians are bad. It's people get out of the country and racist slurs.

57:15X is so toxic. It's a great platform for free speech. but it's a different ball game if you want to ruin your day going on that for a few hours oh mate but also how many of those accounts are real and you know you mentioned ai how much of what people see is even real like i've had conversations with people about various things yeah but i saw it and you're like did you we're at that point now i've seen a fat yeah i've seen a fat pizza man a pizza delivery man falling through a porch in america and i was laughing because i thought it was funny and it was fucking ai yeah that's it wasn't even real no and i thought what why was that even on my feed it just it was standing and i went to hold the pizza and they fell through the ports and i couldn't stop laughing i know i should not mean laughing but i've got that and i started laughing and they fell through and it was it was holding the pizza up and i was looking at the comments sometimes i take a wee and people are ai ai and then i looked at it again it was all ai it was all made up that's the thing like i saw a video the other day of donald trump noshing off Benjamin Netanyahu.

58:13It's like AI. That's probably real. Yeah, it probably is, yeah. But no, that stuff's everywhere. Like, there's YouTube account, there's one YouTube account in particular, which puts out videos of my dad. And it's an AI voice, it's not his voice. But it's like hundreds of thousands of views per video. And I've reported it because it's saying words that he's not saying. So for me, that's not free speech, you're claiming it's him. And it says in the title, like, David Icke exposes blah, blah, blah. YouTube don't give a shit. But it was your dad that was saying that. Yeah, they could kill it. Yeah, and then some of it is like, you know, just almost borderline religious stuff, and he's not religious.

58:48Mm-hmm. And it's like, what the hell, man? Like, how is that even... Possible. Yeah, and how is it allowed? Like, it's weird, because you can literally put words in someone's mouth. Mm-hmm. And, you know, it makes me think of The Running Man, you know, that film, The Running Man, the Arnold Schwarzenegger film. The new one's coming out. Mate, perfect timing. Go on and watch it. Because that film was like, what, 1987 or something? And they framed him for shooting all those people, didn't they? And it never happened. And they did it through, I guess, AI. It probably had a different name then. But if you look at Total Recall, The Running Man, it's all coming into existence now.

59:20The trimming show is massive, but there's a lot of films in the 80s. In the 90s, it will make more sense now. Like you say, Running Man, Total Recall. Total Recall was massive. And I used to think, what the fuck was going on? Is it a dream? Is it real? I actually watched it a couple of months ago to understand it a bit more. When I just wanted to go somewhere else and they put an implant in the brain. How do we know we're not AI? Like some sort of computers. I'm not convinced. I'm at this place now where I think, like I've always questioned there's bigger than us, there's more than us. Yeah. But now I'm at a stage, like I don't, because of technology and AI and people's voices and all these videos, I'm questioning what even the fuck is this?

1:00:01Are we just computerized? Are we just AI? Are we just machines, the aliens, the avatars? Like it's such a deep question because out of every single person I've interviewed, nobody knows, nobody's got a clue what the fuck is going on. We can talk a good game. Yeah. We can try and be fair and sit on the fence. But that could be wrong as well. And we don't really sit on the fence because we have got, we do our thing, you know, we're out there and we try and speak from the heart. But you can get caught up in it sometimes. But I think I'm at the stage that I'm just fucking lost again. Yeah. I mean, the simulation theory stuff's wild.

1:00:34Mm-hmm. But that is wild because then you're really questioning everything. And it's kind of, for me, like I'm one of those people that I rely on nature to kind of keep me sane, if I'm honest. So I walk a lot and explore a lot. And that's a fricking rabbit hole as well, mate. But then in simulation theory, there's nature that I'm going back into and I'm taking my shoes and socks off and I'm grounding myself in nature and I'm wild swimming. But if it's simulation, that's all computer generated anyway. It's not real. So none of it's real. because they talk about it being a firmament, which was quite, I think they speak about it in the Bible, but it's like a dome, but it's like a dome.

1:01:12A firmament, I can't always get that. They're just laughing at us, man. It's the architect. You know, like someone as the creator, but with technology, and if we've been here for thousands of years, of millions of years, like they've said, the technology should be so advanced. But again, if you look back to Egyptian times and how they created things, if you look back at the old architects of the buildings now, everything's lazy now. And how they've done them back in the day it looked like a lot has been cut with lasers and other certain things so has the technology get does it get so advanced and then they kind of do a wipe out i'm you know that's what i'm at where they maybe just keep 5 000 10 000 of these wealthy families where they've got the blueprints yeah i'm looking i'm watching videos of now 50 cent and he's singing classical music he's singing like music from the 70s in a different voice and then that music's better than his actual music.

1:02:02This is where my man goes. Yeah. Has there been great sets before? Do they create the reset, but there's also the blueprints of how to keep the wealth. Listen, we can maybe bring, we keep this for like 300 years and then we can release this. There's maybe a 5 ,000 blueprint plan of how to be successful and how to keep the wealth into all these families because they talk about generational wealth only lasts three generations before someone fucks it. But these people and these top families Have created this well for many many years You know so I don't know if the reset In my mind I'm going off topic here Because I don't know but This is where I'm at I think maybe keep 5 ,000 10 ,000 people on the planet Have all the blueprints of all the creations And whatever all the textbooks because if you go Into the archives and The Vatican under the Underground tunnels they're miles miles long With all these books we're only reading books That were released 10 years ago 20 years ago we've not really got history books of 100 200 years ago everybody who writes wins the war rewrites history even the stuff with Hitler I went down the rabbit hole and I thought what the fuck man when I was listening to these interviews I'm thinking this guy's on it but I don't know if it's AI he was talking about signing a peace agreement with Poland and they didn't want they're polluting the cinemas and polluting their people because Germany was the biggest trans movement in the world it's what they'd done the first trans operation and the burning of the books they're saying now is because it was all the trans shit they were trying to bring in school so I'm starting to think fucking hell I never thought I'd be thinking well what side was Hitler on?

1:03:32and people can't, and I could be nuts you know, and that could be just what I'm reading on social media where they're saying listen dickhead, I'm just going to feed you this for the next two weeks and you're going to start buying into it so I think we're in dangerous territory where I think with the information that we're receiving every day I think we're the guinea pigs, I think we're really going to struggle mentally in 10 years 20 years because of all this information that we're seeing, all these reels and all this bullshit. I think our minds are just going to explode. And I feel sorry for the kids now who are coming up because their lives are fucked.

1:04:05Well, I try and protect mine as much as possible. If my daughter's heard that they're seven and four, if they heard the word COVID, they'd look at you like, what word? What does that mean? It would have kept them away from all of that stuff. But I think in terms of seeing stuff that makes you think a certain way, I think the trick is to kind of see it and go, oh, that is interesting. It's making me feel a certain way. Who would want me to feel that? And what's the end game? What's someone gaining from me thinking by that way of thinking? And then to go away and step away from the mobile phone and research it as best you possibly can.

1:04:43And that would be a thing I'd ask as well about. You mentioned the Vatican. He was absolutely right. I mean, you had the great library of Alexandria and all that stuff was taken. You had the great knowledge of the Cathars that the Roman Catholics basically burnt and Montsigur and all that stuff. and they stole that knowledge, and it's all underneath the Vatican. You're like, well, if there's no dark agenda and no dark plan, let's see it. Let's see that stuff. Or does that stuff totally contradict the religious shit that you're peddling? Because if I wanted to control people, if I wanted to control humanity, I'd want them to feel pretty helpless.

1:05:14I'd want them to be asking someone outside of them, whether it be God or the government or whatever, for permission, or how to think or what to believe. Because I certainly don't want them thinking for themselves. I don't want them feeling powerful and significant. I want them to feel like a little cog in a machine that has to ask for permission from wherever. I would love to see the blueprint. I would love to see the blueprint of actually how to live, of actually how it should be. And I don't think we should all be living the same. I believe we've got to be around people. I believe being around people, people become their best versions.

1:05:48I think a lot of us feel lonely now, no matter if we follow our religion or not I think there's a lot of inner misery with people I think are so confused because there's so much noise so much statics, vaccines and unhealthy foods and technologies and TVs and media it's polluting the minds you know, we are being controlled and this is a computer chip and we're just, it stores everything you know, and I imagine now the way I would probably look at a better life and I think about it as having the nature and having the farmhouse and the kids and families and people around me. I love around me and building a community of nature and grow our own fruit and veg because the sun gazing is so important for people.

1:06:29Energy, clean water. And I think you would become your true self in nature. Like when I run in nature, I do the cold water swimming. I feel alive. More than anything, more than any drug I took, any gamble, any alcohol, any women, the nature thing, I just feel alive in my mind. Constantly fucking switched on. I'm tuned in. I don't think people can get that sort of luxury. because they're so caught up in that little bubble where they're constantly feeling down, the vibrations down. I was speaking to someone about the wind farms and he was saying it keeps the energy out. They're horrible, mate. You know, they keep the energy.

1:07:01I didn't even know this, like with the 5G towers are now putting all around Glasgow, but they're saying the British shores, I'd imagine all shores around the world have got that vibrant energy, but they're saying the British is the strongest, but the wind farms keep away that energy and you've got the pilings with electricity because electricity is free it's everywhere if we can tap into it and have that machinery to do so but now you've got these big pilings apparently keep all the the energy the places with the most pilings you've got high cancer rates you've got suicides you've got addictions and i'm not saying it's that but it did make a valid point i thought you know what that's pretty fucking valid that yeah and no one seems to ask those questions of um of what potential dangers could come from that like if you go a hundred years back or even god geez even less that, and you look how much electricity in terms of an electromagnetic field surrounded us, there was practically none.

1:07:53Now, if you turn your phone on now, I mean, how many Wi-Fi's are you going to pick up? Double figures, easy. And that's not counting other frequencies that are everywhere, whether it be emergency services, frequency, whatever. You're basically just bathed in this soup of radiation all the time. We don't know what that's doing to people. And then you've got, you know, Elon Musk, who people seem to love this guy, I don't get it, putting tens of thousands of low orbit satellites in space to beam 5G on the planet. You're like, has anyone tested that? What's that going to do to people? And I'll be honest, just quickly to go back to the bit, because you mentioned about that whole kind of, I guess that great historical reset stuff.

1:08:39Like, mate, I'm on with that now. And it's funny because basically, this job, as you'll know, obviously, you talk to people, and sometimes you can have a right laugh, and then other times it's dark, man. Especially if it's satanic ritual abuse and child abuse survivors, and they're talking to you, and even during COVID, talking to vaccine-injured whistleblowers and bereaved wives. And honestly, it's hard, man. Yeah. And so I would go home, and sometimes I'd pull up on the drive, and I'd literally like sit and my wife would sort of look out the window and see I was home and I would just realize you five minutes man before I come in the house because when I walk in the house I'm dad yeah I just need to get that stuff out and then I'm dad um and so my wife was like look you've been watching these videos of these like guys that go off geeky guys basically on youtube that go off old railway lines and canals and you know whatever why don't you go and do that like go and make some videos you enjoy doing it like and it will keep you away from this stuff so So basically four days a week or rather six days a week, you're immersed in this stuff, but you've got a day a week where you go out in nature, you make videos, and it's something that's just totally separate from this stuff.

1:09:47I was like, okay, I'll do it. It didn't take long, mate. Straight down the rabbit hole. Because at first I was seeing some of these structures, like as you've mentioned, I'm like, they couldn't build that today. Like what the hell was going on in like Edwardian times and Victorian times? They can't do it today. And then a friend of mine was saying, oh, we go down some lead mines in Derbyshire, loads of lead mining in Derbyshire. and so I went down a couple of lead mines with him sort of you know you're literally like looking up and you're like geez like you know now I'm literally just like I'll walk a kilometer underground like I ain't bothered and now like I'll go to some places and honestly mate like they're cathedrals mate underground like literally and you're looking at them and they're enormous and it's like oh yeah this was built in the 1700s by like malnourished guys with pickaxes and you're going bullshit like not a chance yeah like these stones are like cut to like you said about lathe like they're absolute perfection mate and they're piled up and they are like 10 15 20 meters high sometimes bullshit yeah bullshit i believe there's underwater cities in that i believe there's these tunnels in those cities under the ground but why as well like why do we never just keep Digging to see what's under there You know To go straight down Like We're held with so much And There's so much information Held back Yeah Like I believe there's cures From everything from Whatever grows from this earth I genuinely do I think we eat too much I'm a prime example of that I know how fasting Is so important for people But yeah I do A lot of people have cured cancer Now I'm not giving people Advice here But If I'm fasting For 5 days 10 days What I fast To like shrink their tumours And stuff Because all the fucking Processed chemical shit that we like they're just questions everywhere but we need to be careful brother because we've got to live life we can't be serious all the time these chats are heavy like there's fun and it's exciting and people will be going do you know what yeah I agree with that those two are fucking often that and they could be right you know because sometimes I listen to myself and I think James fucking shut up and go and live go and enjoy yourself sometimes and switch off but no matter where I go I'm speaking to some about, because I can talk to anybody anywhere, no matter their beliefs.

1:12:01I'll never, I'll argue with people online. I'll never argue with people outside when I have the conversation. So if you were supporting something and I was supporting something else, I was just saying, yeah, but this is X, Y and Z and you could say, yep. And I'll go, do you know what? Fair point. I understand where you see it from. Because when I interviewed Johnny Adair, I always mention him. He fought for the UDA, killing people. But he says, if I grew up a mile down the road, James, I'd have been fighting for the IRA. you know so everybody's vision of life is about the circumstances that they're in at that moment you know 100 % going back to the kind of digital idea tony blair's son he's involved he's got a percentage that kicks off he's getting 350 million is that correct um i don't know exactly but yeah i've always felt something weird about him anyway i mean the blairs anyway yeah well he's he's had more blood in his hands than any other prime put together he's killed more people than all the previous Prime Ministers put together, the Iraqi war, over a million Iraqis dead for weapons of mass destruction that he never had, the biggest the biggest cash robbery in history over a billion pound in dollars was took from Iraq, the gold the oil, it's just all money Saddam Hussein wasn't a fucking great he wasn't the most peaceful man, but Iraq was running good, and if you look at Gaddafi, he'd done amazing for his people free healthcare, free education, gave them farmland.

1:13:23If they had kids, it would give them more money. It would give them free education. If they wanted to travel and go to universities around the world, they killed him because he wanted to come away from the dollar. You know, everything's money and greed, but with the digital ID thing and Tony Blair and his son involved, I think, that ain't a good sign. They're not for the people. Oh, far from it, mate. I mean, the weapons of mass destruction thing's interesting because, you know, you think weapons of mass destruction, they can hit Europe in 45 minutes, all that kind stuff. We think it came from Tony Blair and it came from Alastair Campbell and the sexed-up dossier and all that kind of stuff.

1:13:59That stuff came from Benjamin Netanyahu. He'd been saying that for years in advance. And if you go online, you can find videos of him at Congress saying, if you topple Saddam Hussein, it's going to be basically amazing for the region. He said the same about Gaddafi. He said the same about Assad. And suddenly, you've got slave markets in Libya and and syria is a is a basket case um and iraq you know a million dead and the rest probably that's why it confuses me that everyone supports this dude it's extraordinary to me but in terms of blair like it's interesting with him because i look at politicians and i think you know some of them are just well i'd say they're all narcissistic for a start but you look at them you go okay you're in it for the power trip you're in it for the money probably the kickbacks and all that kind of stuff.

1:14:46You're in it because you're a narcissistic sociopath and all that kind of stuff. You're doing it maybe because of compromise, which is one of the reasons why, like you asked earlier, why you think Israel is so powerful. I mean, the compromise they have on people through Epstein is one of the ways they have power because they have blackmail against people. Epstein was working with Israel. He was working for Mossad, yeah. Yeah. And Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell, who used to own Derby County, actually the team I support, he was Mossad. and they killed him in the end because he started to go a little bit rogue yeah that's why I think the child they killed Charlie Kirk he was pro-Israel and then they started questioning he started questioning he started questioning and apparently he was going to come out with big information he was very pro-Israel because I used to like him thought he's on it he's on it I like the fact he's questioning everybody but again that's another narrative that's another choose a side and I felt as if but you can't be hating on everyone like the transhumanity I've no issues with them I've got trans friends I genuinely have I've interviewed them on the podcast They're fucking nuts But they don't want to read my kids stories If one was to phone up James Yipton Can I stay with you tonight And read a story to your kid I think listen Fuck off I don't want it to be in schools Because there was a In 1988 Maggie Thatcher actually done something good She brought in Section 28 actor Whatever it was Who stopped speaking about Trans and gay stuff in schools Because kids feel lonely They want to gravitate towards something So if we're speaking about it so much they'll think okay maybe that's what's wrong with me if all you know they're getting pure booted blockers and the boys are dressing as girls like it's just wrong you know keep all the gay shit away if be who you want to be 18 plus you want to chop your dick off go fucking do it i'm not ass but just keep it away from the kids protect the kids but i just feel as if how much they push that stuff on on people like i'm the same with you like i've had great conversations with trans people it's for me the trans people aren't the trans activists the trans activists 99 times out of 100 aren't trans.

1:16:40They're just sort of, well, they call themselves allies or whatever, but they're sort of being offended on someone else's behalf. Now, I'm the same as you, like you do you, hun. Like you just live your life how you see free, as long as it doesn't negatively impact other people, go for it. And if everyone had that attitude and the respect for other people to do that, I think the world would instantly be a much better place, you know? And that that is what's weird to me is like when i was a kid and i actually got called a lefty the other day because i said something about israel and this guy he said it joking it wasn't like he goes you're such a lefty dude and i was like no the thing is when i was growing up like i was i was called a lefty and i moved up to the midlands um and they used to call me a southern softy leftist right and when i played ice hockey they they used to call me swampy do you remember that guy was an eco warrior.

1:17:32No. Right. They used to call me swampy. That was a nickname for me because I was like, you know, I was on a soapbox about like whatever. My views are the same now as they were then. But now I get called far right from time to time. Like the Overton windows just shifted to such a point of extremes. And I think that's part of how they, they steer people is they create the extreme. So you mentioned Charlie Kirk, like people gravitate towards Charlie Kirk and others that probably a bit more extreme to say to the right side, they only gravitate towards them as a pendulum swing and a response to the lunatic stuff that was on the left.

1:18:09Like, I think life generally is probably in the middle. It's a shade of gray. It's a bit of the right, it's a bit of the left, it's a bit of this, it's a bit of that. Very few things are black and white. There's a shade of gray in everything. Um, I think people can think abhorrent things and say abhorrent things based on a real reason. Like, legit. Like, if someone sits opposite me and just says, oh, I hate Muslims, and go, oh my goodness me, that's like a horrendous thing to say. And then they say, well, I was raped by a gang of them for 10 years. Makes sense, yeah. Yeah, I've gotten - who the am I to tell you that you're bigoted for that view?

1:18:46I don't think you should tie all people in the same, but I, yeah, I ain't gonna say anything to that because you because you've not come to that view based on watching a youtube video you've come based on a on a life experience yeah yeah because not everything is is black and white you know but i think they push one extreme and it sends the pendulum back to the other side and i think what will happen is it will go the other way again where they'll start probably going too far to the right and then suddenly then the world will kind of pendulum swing that and it's just like the extremes and so all we see is the extremes when actually when you go out into nature when you go onto the street.

1:19:20Like you made the point earlier, people fight on Twitter. Well, by the amount of hate there is on social media, you would expect that when we go for a pint in the evening, everyone should be freaking windling each other across the pub, and yet they're not. People are just chatting, because real life's different. And so they're elevating these two extremes. And the people in the middle, which I'd probably consider me and you, to be fair, to go, yeah, I can take that, I can leave that, yeah, I can take that. We're the ones that almost get marginalized in a way, like certainly algorithmically, like I do massively, and I know my dad does extremely.

1:19:53And I think that's quite telling. Like, I think if you're on the right and you're barking about people on the left, you know, they're fucking, you know, purple air, bloody whatever, you get elevated to hell. And if you're on the left and you're a total, you know, magas are all racist scumbags, you get elevated as well. Yeah. If you're in the middle and you're going bait, you're both getting played here, guys. Mm-hmm. Nothing. But if we can make the middle trendy, it would make the world a better place. Wouldn't it just It's a very small percentage But I was gravitating You gravitate Because you see What's trendy And I'm bad For that as well You think viewers If I promote that Fuck that But then you're forgetting That people disagree with you And it will upset A lot of people Who don't believe in that Because I don't know their story Like you says I hate Muslims I don't like Muslims I like Muslims But why don't you like them Listen I was a Muslim grooming guy And they were raping for Understandable It's the same as Christians You look at priests And all the fucking Involved in this shit Do you know what I'm saying Like there's bad in every religion, every walks of life, but we're living in a society where I think, like you say, it swings every 48 years anyway and now we're going so far right and people want to jump on it as well and be trendy.

1:20:59So fair play to the left as well, but when you are, you do look at the people on the left, they are quite, there is something quite amiss as well. There's no compromising. Then again, could they say that about the people on the right? But I'd like to think people on the right are more concerned as well. Like I have got a lot more views from the people of the right, I'm honest, But when I look at the left I think They look unwell And not everyone But they're shouting and screaming And they're causing riots But the police don't do anything But if you are right Then you are the problem But I do agree a lot with the right as well With the illegal immigration And free speech But there's certain things I think I don't want to choose a side either But again it's like a contradiction Because I want to see it But if I was to look at it I think the people who are protesting and against the protesters, against people who are abusing kids.

1:21:47I think, how can you be doing that? That's weird. You live here, like it's not, are you just mentally disturbed where you can't really see it? Because there's a lot of people with mental health. You can see that online as well. And when you look at these people on camera, they're full of hate. It's all with their hair dye. They're quite overweight. And they're angry at something. I just think they want to be angry at something. But in reality, we should all be working together. What do you actually think of the killing of Charlie Kirk? I think the only thing that I'm certain of is that the FBI are lying.

1:22:17The official story, I'm not having it at all. There's too many inconsistencies. There's too many things that don't add up. I think this, again, comes into that whole, you tell people, the most dangerous thing for me in terms of how we're controllable is when we're told what we want to hear. That's that's how they do it so with as soon as it happened right i did a a show and i said we don't know anything but i can i think i said i can guarantee or i i'm fairly sure they will try and blame it on a leftist and they'll probably throw some transgender stuff in there right and there you go he's a leftist with a transgender partner or whatever because that then tells the right people that support charlie kirk and generally the people that tend to question authority a bit more at the moment.

1:23:06Because you tell them what they want to hear, they're more likely to believe it. And so a lot of them have, not all of them at all, but a lot of them have. And I think that's quite dangerous. And I think we've seen that a lot during, we saw it with the COVID stuff. I know my dad's spoken about it before in the sense that they give you something to quench your kind of suspicions in the way that, like when the COVID thing launched, because it kind of was a launch, wasn't it, to be fair, like a brand new product, a lot of people bought it and a lot of people went, I'm not sure. I think, I think I'm being lied to here.

1:23:45I think there's more to it. So they go, okay, we'll give them the Wuhan lab then. Give them the Wuhan lab story. So then they go, ah, I knew it. I knew there was something going on. I knew there was something more to it. But what you got with the Wuhan lab story is the need for lockdowns, the need for vaccines. So nothing actually changed, but you, you know, did that. And the same with Charlie Kirk. There's people just going, you know, who could it be? Who could tell them that it's a trans-linked crazy leftist because you've got a problem with leftists and you've got a problem with crazy trans folk.

1:24:19So you're hearing what you want to hear. So yes, I'll believe it. I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe it was that for a minute. I think, you know, even down to the fact that you didn't have a crime scene, they didn't, they didn't, and then, and then they rebuilt the whole area and concreted over. I mean, that's, I mean, I'm not an investigator, but in terms of like a police investigator, but I'm not sure Columbo would allow you to basically non tape off a murder scene and then concrete over it within a week. But there's a lot I can say. But it's insane. Some people say the little thing had these chairs shot up, so their neck was actually the bullet coming out.

1:24:51So I don't know, man, it's all smoke and mirrors. The way thing is, is, is, where it's really strange for me that her behavior is very strange. And I think she is actually happy. If I have to be honest, I think she's enjoying it. I've never seen a memorial for someone, a young person being murdered in front of their children that has pyrotechnics. That's not normal at all. And I was speaking to a friend of mine, who's a funeral director, a guy called John O 'Looney, lovely bloke. And he said to me, goes, mate, he said, I deal, like everyone grieves differently, like you say, but I deal with and have dealt with hundreds and hundreds of grieving widows over the years of being a funeral director.

1:25:32Like never seen anything like this in my life. Like this is extraordinary. And even like, even Trump, this was so strange as well with Trump, like within 24 hours, he's at a Yankees game doing that. It's like, you describe that guy as like your son, he's been murdered and you're giving it that, like that's weird. And then when the interviewer says to him at the white house, you know, have you, um, how are you holding up? He's like, yeah, I'm fine. You know, we're building a new ballroom. Like what the hell? Your son has just been murdered. They don't have any empathy. They don't have any empathy, mate.

1:26:03Because what that does is cements, they're in the right, right side is the right side. They're on the right side of history. So it makes it look they're coming for us for speaking out. Yeah. People are fucking left, right, white, black, brown, Chinese, Whoever the fuck you are Get killed Get raped There's paedophiles In all fucking walks of life You know It's not just targeting Muslims Not all Muslims are bad There is a big problem With the grooming gangs The majority of fucking nonces Here in the UK are white You know Because it is a predominantly White place I think there's 90 % White people here So the numbers are going to be high Like I don't want to target everybody No I just want to target the bad That's the problem mate I want to try and educate and go You know what You don't have to really choose sides We can have a discussion With it But the whole thing is weird I think they don't have any empathy i think it's all some sort of game you don't even know if it was a fucking who he was you don't know if it was a replica you don't know if he's still alive you don't know why it became such a big game show the two days later having fireworks and she's got the tears and she's then took over the charlie kirk show yeah she took over yeah turning point she's now a president of it and then it links with trump it's just all very strange it doesn't sit right with me but again i could be wrong maybe she's just a grieving widow it's just wanting to keep his name alive but there wasn't many photos or videos of charlie kirk's mom and dad and i don't know she's very suspicious her um being the beauty pageant and then the links with trump but it's trump's beauty yeah yeah she's jesu educated as well isn't she and i think you know trump was as well so there's connections they go further back and she was in israel a lot yeah and will be i'm sure you know i don't think she's allowed to lick the wall because i don't think women are allowed but you I'm sure she would be if she was allowed.

1:27:44It's very strange. I'm with you, like I say, I don't know what happened. Because other people would say he's not dead, and that he's going to turn up again with a Jesus hologram to basically try and bring this second coming. Yeah, but do you know what? The moment the world is so mad that I'm at a point where I'm like, I don't know. If the fake alien invasion comes tonight - Or Jake Boybeam. Yeah. Well, this is the thing that really makes me laugh. It's like, you go back, I don't know, say 20 years, you had this kind of the main conspiracy theories then were like your - Main 11. Yeah, you had that, but then in terms of the conspiracy movement was very UFO heavy.

1:28:25It was all Area 51 and Roswell and all that kind of stuff. Nice. Yeah. And so you go in on the fake moon landings and all this kind of stuff. And you have a situation where if then there was an alien invasion or whatever, a fake alien invasion, like the normie folks would just be like, this is madness, like aliens don't exist. And the conspiracy theorists would be like, no, aliens are real. We've been studying them for years. Whereas now, if there was a fake alien invasion, the normies would buy it. and the conspiracy theorists would be going it's not real it's not real like it's flipped like 360 I think the left became the right the rights became the left a little bit I think it's nobody knows these are labels instead of just don't put me in the label just question this is the way I see the world at the moment like I say it could change tomorrow I could speak to someone who could convince me that I should be Christian I go do you know what I'm away I'm going to go and pray to Jesus and buy the Bible yeah do you know what I'm saying but I don't fucking know I'm at a stage now I've got to I'm questioning everything a second time again I've questioned everything from school I've questioned 9-11 because when 9-11 happened I'm only a young kid I've interviewed now men who've went to sign up for the Navy Navy SEALs because of 9-11 and it's not until 20 years later 15 years later they start the wedge didn't go shit my head is fucked for what same as people who went and fought in Iraq and Afghanistan you don't because at that moment it felt right 9-11 was a perfect example to go and fight for your country be patriotic and that would happen here if it was a massive terrorist attack with thousands of lives lost the majority of the British would sign up because a lot of people are patriotic because when they follow their football I don't think it's as patriotic as the Americans though because when they play their national anthem they're all fucking crying oh mate don't but they go nuts don't I remember being in New York watching a New York Rangers game and I didn't stand up for the national anthem with this guy next to me I didn't even know him he literally grabbed my arm I'm not American I'm angry you still stand up it's like bloody hell they're patriotic so if they were ever going to go to war they'd be the first to sign up but I think the British are patriotic but I just see now with the Gulf of Tonkin incident and 9-11 and all these false flag events I'm now thinking I ain't fighting for no cunt you know unless anybody comes through my door then I'm happy to pick up a machete but right now but if people were going to invade Scotland I would still grab a rifle oh I'm the same and help protect my own, you know?

1:30:58Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think I'm at this stage, I ain't fighting for these cunts. No. I think the false flag thing is the concern of mine at the minute. Because I look at, right, digital ID, the idea of introducing it because of illegal immigration is bollocks. It's total bollocks. And it's not gonna get through, unless basically, you know, you like to Farage or whatever, totally sell out and flip-flop, which they could. But I don't see how it gets through Parliament. because even Labour having a massive majority with a tiny percentage of the vote but even have a massive majority there's a lot of Labour MPs that oppose digital ID so unless they all get whipped into action I don't see how it goes through so then you go well what if two scenarios what if that then becomes Starmer's poll tax basically so Starmer falls on the sword of digital IDs done Labour get demolished at the next election reform come in because they would almost certainly win the next election they certainly would if it was today they win the election and then they they suddenly bring in digital id because we have to but it's not the same as what labor wanted to do it's different and you trust us because we're outsiders remember and we oppose digital id how many people would go well i didn't really want it but yeah they they make a good point and i trust them so they could try and do it that way the other way they could do it is through emergency legislation off the back of a terrorist attack because you look at the coronavirus act that went through like that and MPs voted on it having not read it, like no chance.

1:32:24Yeah, they don't read anything. They didn't read anything. They weren't not read, usually. Yeah, and so they signed off on it, it went through and then a few MPs afterwards went, oh, hang on a minute, oh yeah, you signed off on it, you didn't read it. And they were starting to speak out against the dystopia and you're like, but you all voted for it because there was an emergency, oh my god, everyone's dying, you know, which turned out to be absolute nonsense, but they created that fear, so people took it so what if you go you know it's not a case of bringing in digital id to stop illegal working because that wouldn't stop illegal working anyway because they're illegal they're illegal the whole thing about being illegal is they're not following the rules um as an employer or as an employee and but if it's a case of we've had these terrorist attacks there's terror cells all over the shop um you know they've come in from palestine because always you know blame blame a palestinian that'll help or iran or russia or whatever we need digital id so that we can stop people from getting into shopping centers schools because i'm sure they would probably try and go for kids because of the emotive freaking backlash you get from that from the public my daughter's getting homeschooled but the schools now are doing trial runs yeah for lockdowns yeah for lockdowns and locking the doors in case there's terror attacks yeah so something tells me something coming and i I hope they don't use skills because people will jump on what they're selling.

1:33:47Digital ID because we need digital ID to know what you're buying. Protect your kids. Yeah. Because if you could be buying fertilizer for fertilizer bombs, we need to know what everyone's buying at what time. You can only enter a school, like I say, a shopping center, a football stadium. You have to have digital ID. That's my, not that I'm a big, I don't like fear. Don't even like the word fear. But that's my concern that that's how they'll try and do it. And if they did something like that, and it was, you know, across the country coordinated, um, you know, 20 South ports in one day, could you imagine the reaction of the people?

1:34:24Yeah. I reckon we're only one South port away for it just going tits up. Yeah. And people going mad, you know, because look at the outrage then. Do you know that? I put a photo of that kid who had done that to those girls and says off of his head, do you know, the police came to me and says, you've got two years in prison for inciting violence. You were so close to it. And I says, the kid, the guy's a fucking, the monster's a kiddie killer. What the fuck are you talking about? So that was like a warning. Be careful what you're posting. And I thought, what? Imagine sticking up for that guy. Yeah.

1:34:57I don't even think the coppers, I think they just follow protocol. They must go, fucking hell, man. What am I doing? Yeah. But I just thought, wow, imagine getting two years for that. Mate. I speak to police officers fairly regularly. Actually, throughout COVID, that started speaking to people that would just email a message, they message all the time. Like what the hell? A lot of them took early retirement that I spoke to that I can't do this anymore, man. Like this is bullshit. J.D.: Hard job they do the coppers. Yeah. And I always sing their praises. There's a lot of dick kids out there, but there's a lot of dick kids everywhere.

1:35:25So, but what they have to go through, they see more destruction than probably people who go to war. They see it in a daily and they're there for 10, 20, 20 odd years. Like they've not just seen gunshots, they're seeing suicide, rapes and kids being abused and car crashes and the abuse that they get and now everybody's on TikTok trying to embarrass them and I was at court at my friend's trial a few months ago and the copper was giving evidence but you'd think the copper was corrupt or bad the way he was getting interrogated you're thinking fuck me he's flapping and I'm thinking maybe he did do it but these guys are doing a job cashing criminals and then have to prove themselves when they go to court and then they've got all the paperwork well that's why I don't get the abolish the police, all coppers are bastards thing.

1:36:11Because it's like, okay, so you're getting mugged. What are you doing? You're funding the police, mate. There is a place for that to protect, as long as that's what it is. And a lot of coppers are good. I mean, I've got neighbors that are coppers. They're lovely people. They're wicked. They're really cool. But then there's others that aren't. And that, I think, is the issue that people seem to have, which is what creates this divide. Like you mentioned earlier, where people hate Muslims. It's like, mate, there's a lot of Muslims. There's billions of them, right? There's cool, sound, awesome, welcome you into the house, feed you ones.

1:36:44There's ones that are, he's all right. Yeah, he's all right. And then there's dickhead ones. And you can apply that to Christians and to Jews and to the left wing and the right wing, straight, gay, f***ing whatever, like every single demographic. And if I think we as a society judged people on themselves, instead of this whole label thing. You see all the time where people are like, you know, I'm gay, I'm disabled, I'm Gareth. Like, I don't need all that. He is, she, he am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like whatever. Just be your individual sovereign self. Whatever you believe, in terms of religion and afterlife and whatever, and God made me or I'm worm food, or whatever.

1:37:27It doesn't matter. You're only here as you once. You're only James English once, even if you believe that you live a thousand lives and get reincarnated, whatever. So just live that to the best that you can and be the best person that you can. Yeah. I think that's important. Like I say, I just think we're living in a stage where everybody's trying to force their agenda, like be who you want to be. Like, I'm not genuinely fucking assed. I don't care who you want to be, but even with, I think the majority of gays and transgender, they just want to go on with their life. They just want to do their own thing and Yeah, they do.

1:37:57But then you'll get the extreme ones who a very small majority will have the biggest voice, you know, and it'll cause the most mayhem. But I just think we need to be careful with all the hate towards each other. And sometimes I can get caught up in it and start calling people pricks and wankers. Yeah. It's hard. I'm a human being, you know? It's hard though, because some people are pricks and wankers. Yeah, yeah. I think that I had a, um, like a parents evening, um, with my eldest and the teacher was like, we've got like a little community school. and she was like, you know, she's, she didn't even really go into the academic side of it.

1:38:30She did a bit towards the end, but the main focus was when she's really kind and she's like, and all the other kids, like they really love her and they come to her and they, they, you know, they talk to her and she consoles them. And I was there like, I was welling up. I was like, that's all I want from my kid. Like if they're straight A student, but they're mean, I don't want that. I'd rather just a kind, nice and, you know, get Fs and give a shit. Because if you're kind, if you apply that to the world, if people could just be kind and respect each other, and yeah, I disagree, I disagree with what you're saying, whatever, anyway, what you're having.

1:39:04So see if Digital ID comes into play and people accept it here, what's going to happen to the people who don't accept it? How damaging can it be? Well, that's the thing. I think for me, what we need to do is we need to oppose, we were talking earlier about the fact everyone's focused on the introduction of Digital ID, whilst they're building the prison anyway. So it's focusing on these things and getting organized in that sense, but also having a conversation with yourself of like, what am I willing to give up? Because you're going to have to give stuff up because they will target you. Football, for instance, you can't go to football.

1:39:39You can't go to the pub. You can't go to Benidorm for two weeks in the summer. You can't do this. You can't do that. And you go, okay, all right, well, I'm willing to give all those things up. So that's fine. Like, and if you're not, fine, go and do your thing. Um, and I think you will get to a point of maybe a little split, a little fork in society, you know, and now I'm fine with that. Like if I have to live like an, like Amish family, it don't bother me. They do well, they don't have any diseases or nothing. There's no TVs, they're both their own houses. They're sweet. I'd rather my kids were climbing trees than, than partaking in, in this bullshit anyway, to be honest.

1:40:15Like, so it's, it's then just the, the, the question of whether you would be allowed to do that. Like, whether they're so obsessed with this Hunger Games society, they want to build it, they won't allow there to be a district that doesn't play along. But for me, when I look at digital ID, because I have conversations with people, I don't see why it's a problem, I don't see why it's a problem. I'm like, the thing is, you've got all these different things that they want to introduce, whether it be the social credit score, whether it be the, you know, carbon limiting what carbon you can have and all that all that stuff none of that functions without digital id like digital id is like i was saying it was like basically it's the pizza base and all the toppings are all this dystopian shit that they want but without the base you've just got a really freaking messy kitchen that doesn't really function it doesn't talk to each other whereas when everything is in one central place you know especially when you put in facial recognition it's not even a case of you know because they're selling this id card it's not an id card it's not a card that you'll hold in your hand and show it like a driving license that's how they're trying to sell it that's why they're saying brick card because i was just a card well so i've got plenty of cards no that's not what it is it will be done on facial recognition and you'll you'll get to a point where you'll turn up at the checkout and facial oh no no that dude's he's not allowed it and it's also like it's not been lost to me how long this is being built like you're an 80s kid like me so you remember there were no there were no um card only automated checkouts when we were kids you dealt with a human with cash and then suddenly oh there's a couple of automated ones there's a couple oh they're they're nearly all automated now and they do your facial recognition like your faces on the thing and they'll they'll that will become all of them and even you know amazon was doing that in london with stores that you just walked in did you facial recognition then charged your amazon account without having to do anything and then the other thing that that i think you know people sort of didn't necessarily notice is suddenly, you know, when you go into a supermarket, you'd have like your steaks and your bacon, whatever, your meat generally, refrigerated meat, fresh meat.

1:42:25It was there and you'd reach in, you'd grab it, put it in your basket. Now they're all behind doors. Now that's sold as a way of preserving the temperature, keeping the temperature so it uses less energy. You go, okay, but what about when those doors lock? so you go in, I fancy a couple of sirloin steaks, it's wife's birthday, a couple of sirloin steaks, that'd been, sorry mate, not allowed them, and because the door won't open, and then suddenly, because everything's automated, it's not like a human, like you, where I can go, James mate, come on, go on, it's Gemma's birthday, go on, oh yeah, go on then, fuck it, have a couple of steaks, you're not having that conversation with an automated till, because it's an automated till, it just says yes or no you know like um little britain computer says no and and that's the thing that i would say to people like if you're happy with that if that's the world you want for your kids and your grandkids go for it you see in china right now people sleeping on the streets because of mispayment or they said something online like it's nuts and that'll happen here look at the amount of shit people speak online so if they don't like you you're a target you're going about your ass, no food, because of the social credit score.

1:43:37I wonder if that's part of what they've done in terms of allowing people to say the things that they've said on Twitter. To cause the chaos. C.B. Cause the chaos, yeah. But also... So when it comes out, there's going to be more people struggling, because they're used to speaking shit? C.B. That, and, you know, who's to say that... C.B. Could they bring up things from the past? It won't be retrospective. Exactly. Because this is something I've noticed, like, for me, I'm fucked in. Or so am I, but that's fine. And I've said that, like, I'm not complying, even if, you know, I'm getting folded into a duffel bag and chucked into a reservoir.

1:44:16Yeah, I'm not complying. Like, I'm not complying. That's my end. That's my end. But, you know, I did notice just after, like, October 7th particularly, is people started talking about the Jews. That never really happened before. I have never done that. I have a problem with the State of Israel, and I have a problem with rabid Zionists, and I have a problem with rabid Zionism, which is a political movement anyway. I have a problem with the Jews. So I was as if the guy at the deli is responsible for the blowing up of kids, do you know what I mean? in the same way as if the Muslim guy who works in the shop on the corner is responsible for the grooming gangs.

1:45:01It's so ridiculous. But I've seen lots of that. And I remember having a conversation with my brother and with my dad about it. I was like, I don't like it. People should be free to say what they want. But I get the feeling that there is some manipulation going on here, that people are almost being goaded into saying things, so that then retrospectively, things can be introduced. Well, one, you can say that anti-Semitism is at the highest ever level or whatever, which they're already doing. You can kind of push that agenda. And then you have attacks like you had in Manchester, you go, see, this is where this hate online leads, it leads to real harms.

1:45:36Therefore, we need to crack down on X, Y, and Z. And you, you, you, I just, you know, I do wonder if that's going to be part of it, what people have said online. But I feel as if whoever controls the system, They are very advanced They do get what they want They understand human nature They do They understand the human psyche Because a lot of human beings Don't really understand the mindset It's such a powerful tool It's such powerful It can be fucking guided through Smell, frequency It can be guided through Have you ever seen the movie I think it was Will Smith And the girl And they put a bet on with this man But they kept seeing the number 7 They put the number 7 up in And there was subliminal messages.

1:46:16There's subliminal messages everywhere. So he put a bet on, okay. Seven red bars. Yeah, you go and pick. And there was like all the football players out in the foot. What was that called, man? The Will for Wall Street. The girl was in that. So she was in a movie with Will Smith. So he knew he was going to see this guy. But the day before, he kept playing music. It sounded like seven. He had seven. Number seven everywhere. So there was football players out in the back. And he says, if you pick the football player, pick a number. And he says, I'll guess the number you're going to send. and he says i'll give you odds of 10 to win and they're placing millions of pounds and he says what so he turned around binoculars picks a number well and it's the wee chinese man says what's the number well says says seven and his face was shocked because there's hundreds of players out there yeah and he got the number so the subliminal messages you know like this the mind is so powerful but yet we don't tap into it enough but i feel as if whoever controls the system Controls the media They know how to tap into it Where people then Fight and hate And divide You know Because they've done a study With the brain There is 50-50 On the world That's why there is Labels That's why they've got Left and right Because the majority of people Want to gravitate Towards a side People want to belong It's literally us Me and you in the middle We're the 0 0.1 % To then question Left and right I agree with the right I agree with some things On the left I do think there's a bit of a Madness there But then Is that because I've been manipulated to think that way as well, you know?

1:47:40Oh, I think there was a bit of madness there. I think there's a little bit of madness on both sides. Yeah, I think, you know, just as an example with the COVID stuff, it was all behavioral insights team. It was all psychologists. And that's no mistake. Like, I remember driving around the country to protest and stuff, and I'd have the radio on, and they'd have someone on there talking about, you know, COVID vaccine uptake or whatever, and, you know, lockdown needs to be another two weeks and all this kind of stuff. And they'd finish the interview, and it'd be like, that was the head of psychology at Imperial College London.

1:48:08and you're like, in what world? Like, if I believe the narrative, give me a virologist, give me a vaccinologist, give me a epidemiologist, give me whatever. Why am I listening to a psychologist? You wouldn't say that's Dave, the chiropractor from around the corner, because you'd be like, you know. And so the fact that it was ruled by psychologists, I think was important because they were, you know, controlling people's behavior. And I don't think that was just limited to COVID. That's everything. by controlling how people think and how they're going to react to stuff. They know, I think, sometimes, they know us better than we know ourselves, in that sense.

1:48:47Yeah. I do think they're 10 steps ahead. Yeah. Even the stuff that we're catching up to now, I still think they've already planned 100, 200 years ahead. I think they probably have. You know, so whatever we catch up to, they're thinking, well, we'll give you this, think you're winning, but wait till you see what's coming in 5-10 years. And I don't think there's been many periods where there has been much peace. I read a book that says it was peaceful at 500, 800 years back in the day where there was no wars, there was no destruction. Hopefully we can get back to that. We do need leaders, but they need to be pure from the heart.

1:49:18They need to understand that it's a level playing field for everyone, not just your side, because we're all different. What do you think of Elon Musk? I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him at all. I'm one of those people. It's nice when people say things that you agree with, but then it's how they act and what they do. So you've got him saying that, you know, AI could be the death of humanity. Well, I agree with him. But then he's pushing it constantly. And he's putting, you know, the satellites into space and you're pushing all the electric cars. And so you've got people on the right overwhelmingly that know the climate change stuff is bullshit.

1:49:53And they love Musk. But he's pushing that climate stuff as well. And he's talking about needing carbon credits and this kind of stuff. So for me, I kind of, I judge him on what he does. And I also think in terms of Twitter, I don't see Twitter as a free speech platform. I think you can say what you want, but people can't necessarily see it. And he says that himself, you know, it's that freedom of speech, not freedom of reach. Well, that's not freedom of speech then. Everyone should be allowed to say what they want. And if people want to see it or hear it and follow it, then they should be able to.

1:50:30But to go, okay, everyone's allowed to speak, but we'll suppress those voices so no one hears them. Well, that's not free speech then. Do you actually think he writes his own tweets? No. Not at all. Surely he's not on Twitter. There's no way he can do all the things that he's supposed to do. Like, he runs all these different companies. He's on Twitter constantly. He's off, you know, to Israel or wherever else he gets summoned. Left, right and centre. There's no way, man. I think he's probably just a front man. They all are. Yeah, I think they all are. Anybody who's out on the stage like that. But I just found it weird between him and Donald Trump, the kind of outburst with each other.

1:51:08Plus Musk had the black eye as well. We know about the panda eye now. It has links to some dark stuff. But it's very weird how Trump says he was going to expose the Epstein files to then saying there's nothing on those files. Yeah. When we know Trump's relationship with Epstein. And then Elon Musk put the tweet out that Donald Trump was on the island. Like that's some fucking crazy shit that. Yeah. between those two i think the thing is when you get people at that level um of you know narcissism because that i mean trump is absolutely one they all have personality disorders all of these people they're gonna bicker and argue and have little petulant fights amongst themselves and then they you know it kind of then just gets put under wraps and everyone carries on i think everyone you know they probably get given their orders and told to behave by the real bosses um and then you know it goes back to the status quo but i think you know i said straight away with the epstein files like i was like you're never going to see him mate like they ain't going to release them and then you get called black pilled and you know trump derangement syndrome which i do believe is real by the way i just think it's it's it's something that tends to um be prevalent inside his supporters a lot of the time to be honest but um i said you're not going to see it i said because one that dude's on it like all day long he's on it and and you they come back and they're like, if he was on the Epstein files, then the Democrats would have released it when they were in charge.

1:52:39You're like, well, not if they're on it as well. Yeah, they're all on it. They're all on it. The Bill Clinton stuff, man. I mean Hillary Clinton's. They are dark, dark people. Yeah. Her emails, I don't know how legit they are though, remember, a lot of the that gets put online, anything can be altered. But that's where they do. Anything can be changed, you know, to confuse the masses. Well, they did it with the sexual abuse inquiry in the United Kingdom, where you had genuine abuse of kids by politicians in the 80s. And then, you know, so there's all this stuff going on. And then you have a couple of testimonies that were lies.

1:53:17And they get elevated massively, and then they get shown to be wrong and disproven. And everyone goes, ah, it's all bullshit. No, those two were planted there to discredit genuine. it works yeah it does work yeah it does work yeah it works what do you think of the satanic stuff and the human trafficking because I've interviewed so many survivors and a lot of people are oblivious I do be envious of those people in that bubble who don't question everything who don't hear the stories like I don't know what the damage it's going to do in 10 years it's fucking hearing horror stories and everyone then doesn't know which real or what's fake so if you're watching a movie and seeing all this dark shit you don't know you can't really separate it I try and do the nature things and because our minds are quite complex men like nobody really knows how the fuck we're thinking or what's really going on we talk a good game I think we're very convincing all men to just be fine you know but when you hear those stories you think what the fuck like some dark stuff like from kids and one week old and I'm thinking like it's a lot you know how dark do you think the world is with all this I think to be honest like i think if we genuinely like you know went into a room like clockwork orange and we had our eyes held open and we had to see the genuine shit that goes on i think we'd be in a padded cell pair of us mate just rocking yeah i think it's so damaging to the brain on it yeah and and i think this is something that people really struggle with in terms of exposing what's going on in the world like not even stuff that is that dark.

1:54:56But, you know, say 9-11, for instance, when you talk about 9-11 being an inside job, I don't think necessarily it was an inside job just by the United States. I think there were other nations involved, multiple nations probably. And you go, and there's definitely a Mossad connection to that 100%, but you go, um, it was an inside job. But who go? They wouldn't do that. The Americans, well, they kill 3 ,000 of their own. They wouldn't do that. You're like, dude, you wouldn't do that. But you wouldn't have sex with a weak old baby. But I guarantee that's probably happening somewhere today. Epstein-Iran.

1:55:30And they look at you like, oh, yeah, but you get my point. You're judging society and what people are capable of by what you're capable of, which is kind of beautiful in a way that you see the world like that. But that's not how it is. So, you know, look at the fucking Lost Prophets guy. Like, people like that exist. You look at doctors and that. they're prescribing prescriptions that they're not making not really knowing what's in them because they're getting the textbook for all these years to be programmed to do what's right and whenever you get the orders you just dish it out they're not really thinking well wait a minute what's really in that what is the destruction if somebody comes to me with mental health instead of giving them pills let's find out what he's eating what do you drink do you take drugs are you going through stress at the moment are you seeing your kids are you working are you exercising are you in nature don't ask those questions we don't get a hair there you go there's a prescription because I'll make 25 pounds from that and if I give out 20 30 these a day I've got my day's wage you know and I'm not shooting down doctors because they do amazing what they think they're doing amazing but it's the people to then you've got to think outside the box because I've interviewed enough whistleblowers who've lost everything for speaking out against the grain any sex whistleblowers because everything's fucking backwards c-sections and cutting the umbilical cord and it's it's darkness the world is controlled by darkness and I only see it because of the people who I interview you know and like I say I'm not shooting down doctors because you do amazing or you think you're doing amazing but it's the pharmaceutical industry kills more people on this planet you know I know drug dealers I grew up with drug dealers I sold drugs when I was younger so I'm willing to destroy life to benefit mine for maybe a few hundred quid a day imagine these guys who are making trillions do you think they give a fuck about you?

1:57:06Mate the organ harvesting shit is the next level within Big Pharma too man like that's fucking mad the brain dead stuff mate so like I've interviewed quite a few people on that. I had one interview with a woman called Heidi Kleseg, an American lady, and she's an anaesthetist, that's her gig. What is that? Basically, knocks you out, essentially, before surgery. She'd go in and obviously have to work out body weight and whatever, so they don't give you too many drugs, but then you don't wake up on the operating table with your belly open, whatever. I think it's quite a complex thing. So she said it was her first day on the job, and she's got the consultant that's saying, well, okay, so we've got this body, the person's dead, but they've been on a life support, but the life support's about to be turned off, and we need to basically harvest the organs, and there's a helicopter on the helicopter pad on the top of the hospital, they're going to take whatever organs away to put into whoever so she's like okay so she has to do something in terms of drugs for the body so it doesn't you know flit around while they're trying to take things off so um so she writes the list of drugs she's going to administer and he checks it and he says oh you've not got any pain relief on here so she's like but they're dead i want any pain relief she's like he's like i put she makes you put some on so she puts them on and whatever happens and then she starts to question it.

1:58:34And so now, like she writes books on this and she talks to loads of people. So she's basically saying brain death didn't exist. Brain death, or the term brain death, was invented for the organ harvesting industry, which is worth trillions worldwide. So if someone's dead, you can't harvest their organs because the organs are dead. They die with them. And if they're alive, well, that's murder. So you can't do that either. So they invented something in between, which is called brain death, which is like, there's basically no brain activity. So essentially they're dead, but they're not because their heart's still beating, blood's still flowing around the body.

1:59:14So they're not dead, but they're brain dead. So they invent this, right? So then she's like, does this huge study of hundreds of people, patients. And she's like, you know, I think it was like most of them were dead, essentially, and they died. But there was about 200 just in her study alone. She said they live normal lives. Like they were, they were, they were pronounced dead. And, um, and they're married with kids now and they live their lives. And she said there was one particular one, which was really harrowing. So she says, basically, there's a guy who has a motorcycle accident. And she said, it's horrific to the point where he's got brain coming out of the ear.

1:59:52Like this guy's basically. And he's pronounced brain dead, the helicopter's landed and the doctor is saying to the family, we're going to take him into the operating theater now, he's dead. We're going to take him into the operating theater and obviously he's an organ donor, whatever. But the brother's not having it because the brother's, what's your brother? It's your brother, right? And the brother's like, no, this is bullshit. No, no, no, no, no. So they leave the room and he's like, anyway, the guy moves, responds. So he goes running out into the reception. He's like, nurse, nurse, like my brother's just moved.

2:00:28My brother's just moved. Bear in mind, they're preparing the operating theater. And they're like, oh yeah, no, yeah, we were taught that. That can happen sometimes. So when they come in to take, to wheel him away, he's like, I'm in for a penny, in for a pound now. So he basically slams his keys into the bottom of his foot. And basically, the brother practically sits up, throws a fucking haymaker at him. So then they're like, oh my God, he's alive, you know, blah, blah, blah. He's married with kids, settled down, fine. And when Heidi Klesig interviewed him, he said that he was conscious of everything in that room and could hear the conversation where the doctor is explaining to his family how they're going to harvest his organs.

2:01:05And you're like, could you imagine being like unable to move and hearing that that's some horror film shit yeah and she said this is happening everywhere particularly in america like this is happening everywhere it's dark man yeah the satanic yeah just because it's all money yeah money's an illusion i've said that for years it's an illusion there's no value to money it's a paper it holds no value the value we hold in here but the destruction that we cause with money the greed the the killings the murders the destruction People kill for it People die for it Yeah There's no value to it But yet we've been conditioned And programmed to feel as if Listen we need it to survive It's an energy currency Unless you're growing out Your own crops And you're living in nature We don't really need it But We've been so ingrained To believe in this Is the one thing That everybody should be fighting for We've gave up a life We're slaving ourselves For this paper It really doesn't have any meaning Or any value to it Like they've got Look at those people Who are harvesting People who do The human trafficking with kids The drug dealers People who sell alcohol We've got bigger drug dealers In our supermarkets Than we have Than people who sell A wee bit of coke If you look at the foods And alcohol And the cigarettes And the vapes They're getting sold It's all fucking toxic Do you think they give a fuck Actually tobacco's good for you If it's used the correct way Same as the poppy fuels The same as the The cocaine plant The fucking If manipulated In a wrong way It can be a negative But if manipulated In a positive It can be good And there's so much research That tobacco is good for you but just not the way we smoke it you know and I just think the greed is what poisoned our soul like the Charlie Chaplin kind of speech I think it was the Great Dictator and it just made a lot of sense and this was in the 40s and Charlie Chaplin was supposed to have been a bit of a bastard back in the day I think his wife was very young people say he was a paedophile but I don't know but his speech in that movie The Great Dictator was unbelievable talking about machine mines and operating from all these people higher power getting told what to do how to feel how to think and yeah i think that's the position we're in now i believe they are ahead but with the the child trafficking i've interviewed enough people to see how dark the world is and they don't have any empathy whatsoever what they do to these kids and it happens a lot more than you think and sometimes these wars are created to get the kids as well you know oh but the number of kids being trafficked out of Ukraine is fucking off the charts.

2:03:32Mm, Palestine. Yeah, well, you know, people can look into that in terms of the stealing of organs from Palestinians. It's not a new thing. It's gone on for a long time. Who do you think controls the world? Who do you think actually operates it? Now we know about the Rothschilds and the banking systems, but do you think there's bigger behind them? Yeah. Possibly more intelligence behind them? Because I've interviewed people who spoke about Antarctica. they says there's not human beings but they says there's other beings out there who control the world who are so advanced when you look at when I look at Jeff Bezos and Zuckerberg and Elon Musk they're quite alien they've got alien tendencies I'm not saying they're aliens but they're quite freaky looking but who do you actually think controls it who do you actually think is pulling the strings I think to be honest I'm of the opinion now that if I can if I can point to them and say their name they ain't in charge so whether that be klaus schwab or tony blair or elon musk or donald trump whatever if i can name you and i can recognize you you ain't the you you know you're not the head of the snake you know you're going to be further down the pecking order um the idea that it comes from something that isn't human wouldn't surprise me at all i'm at that point where i i look at the lack of humanity, the lack of human decency that you would need to have to be able to be the architect of what is happening around the world.

2:04:59That ain't no human shit, mate. I don't think. How there's wars and how there's destruction and how people are suffering, you know, and how we could be 20-25 with all this food that we waste, but people are starving. I think there's one third or two even thirds of the world who's not clean water. Like, Even ourselves Walk by homeless people I do homeless work But I still forget sometimes That that is a human being But how are we in today Who are walking by Other humans There's a lot of Con artists on the street Who pretend to be homeless But they're still Grafting for their money But I'm talking about The people The veterans Who have been Jumping to fight For their country Because they think They're doing the right reasons But nobody really gives a fuck What they're doing Because I interviewed Who was interviewing?

2:05:44Melvin Dons Melvin Dons Melvin Downs, SES guy, black guy, and because his dad used to get terrorised with the National Front, he was a black man coming over in the UK in the 60s and 70s. So Melvin's going to fight for his country, British flag, patriotic, but these people are hating on his skin colour and carrying his flag in the UK, but yet they hate him while he's the one risking his life, you know. I just think everything's so confusing and the world doesn't have to be that way. I genuinely don't think I'll see it in my lifetime, the peace and harmony and everything's just, do you know what, everybody take a break, like everybody just, there's no wars, we don't have to send soldiers, like, it must be heartbreaking for a soldier.

2:06:25Look at the people in either lockdown. I couldn't imagine being dragged away from a family. And then people dying, you know, and then coming back with PTSD, because no human should be seeing that, it's not a human thing. So it tells us that the mind shouldn't be seeing it, we shouldn't be seeing what police see every day and fire brigades, yes, accident happened, it's okay, you know, but I'm just talking the whole destruction of the world and i don't know if it's to do with the energy because they used to have bells everywhere around the world in the uk we used to bring the bells and it used to give out frequency of good energy but now they smashed all the bells down and everybody's quite low if you actually walk along the streets people are quite depressing looking they're quite great they're all looking at the phone yeah they're literally everyone is just scrolling like i i you know occasionally i'll see someone on the tube and they're like scrolling there's some interaction going but most aren't most like that and they're like dead dead looking for a dopamine hit someone like your post like i mean i'll be honest i mean i'm online of course i am like we do this stuff but i think if i wasn't doing this i don't think i'd be that bothered about it not asked to be honest no that beautiful thing i think that's freedom yeah i actually look forward to that day you know sometimes i think fuck it i'm just going to go all out and get cancelled because I feel as if it was a sigh of relief But then again How can you try and But then you Try and Yeah yeah yeah You're on a mission At the same time Contradiction Because I want to move away With the dogs Have more kids Just grow more crops Fucking grow my pubes And my hair And not having to worry About shaving Like I think Do you know what That turns me on that Like have my little Little lake And just grow more And fruit and nice dinners And log fires And nature And But then again I want to be in the game I think fuck it I want to fight against something I want something ingrained in me I want to learn and educate But with the knowledge that I'm getting I've got it here I can't put it into words Of what I'm thinking My vocabulary's not that great You know But I understand the way My life Or other people's life Should sort of be To make the world a better place Instead of all the divide And listen I still watch the football I still tell people to fuck off I still get angry But I just know it can be run better You know How do you think people can break away From the system And actually live a better life because even though we know all this and ask the questions about that we still have our moments we still battle we do the cold water for a reason i know why i do it because i know what it's like up here and if i don't do it i don't know where the fuck i would be yeah you know so how do you think people break away from it and actually try and lead a better life i think everyone's got their own way of doing things i think just finding joy in stuff is so important i know that sounds dead cheesy but most people don't like most people have pretty joyless existence is really.

2:09:11It's always like on the get up, work, home, dinner, kids to bed, hour of death in paradise, bed, repeat, it's that kind of grind. Whereas I think, for me, it sounds stupid, but when I was PT-ing, I used to work as a PT, and I'll be honest, as a PT, 90 % of the people didn't hire me to make them fitter, they hired me to sound off. I was a PT. Yeah, but it is, isn't it? You would hear like, and the amount of times people would leave a PT session, they're like, oh mate, thanks, I feel so much better now. And I'd be like, oh, fucking hell, I'm drained. I've taken on - All your drama, yeah. Yeah, I've taken on all your drama.

2:09:52And I remember speaking to a friend of mine in America, who said like, you know, how are you? And I was like, yeah, I'm all right. I said, be honest though, fuck me. Like, I'm just like, I'm a bit of an empath and I'm paying for it right now. Seriously. And so she was like, what you need to do, she said, five minutes a day, YouTube videos, fat people falling over, cats and dogs fighting, whatever, just stupid shit. And I was like, what? And she was like, no, trust me. And that's what I did. Just like, again, you know, it's online, but I just laughed for five minutes a day. It's just stuff that was just stupid.

2:10:24And it made such a huge difference, mate. You know, and I'm one of those people, I find it funny. Like you like football. I like football. I'm less into football than I used to be. But, you know, I still love sport. I love ice hockey and I love the Rangers and I'm going to watch an ice hockey match tonight in Glasgow. And every time I'll put something up from a game or if I'm with my daughter watching hockey, I can guarantee, James, in the first three replies, bread and circuses. Guarantee it. Every time. And it's like, and that's fine, but I like bread and I like circuses. As long as I know it's bread and circuses, it's fine.

2:10:59And I think that's a problem that people have in this realm is they don't find joy. Yeah. Because they almost, one, they feel like if they're finding joy in bread and circuses, then they're part of the matrix. And others feel that, well, when the world is the way it is, why should I be enjoying stuff? Like, I feel guilty. You know, kids are being blown up in Gaza and I'm here watching a hockey game, eating popcorn. It's not right. You're like, yeah, but you need to find joy in stuff because there is joy out there. And human beings are amazing. If you look at the Olympics, the way the human body can go and the stresses that they put on.

2:11:27But I'm the same because I was passionate against football if Celtic get beat I used to fucking hate it I didn't want to be around anybody else unless they supported Celtic but then obviously you start questioning it like you say the bread and circus thing you think it is the bread and circus like you played on bread and water and they'll not ask real questions but it's okay to go and support someone and watch their craft just don't let it consume you exactly you know don't be 24-7 Sky Sports News crying if they get beat who gives a fuck you know like it's okay to go and watch things go and entertain yourself it's entertainment For a reason Just Be careful And just Don't try and watch Other people live their dreams And ambitions either Try and do your own thing Where people can come And support you And people can come And watch you Like I need people to be sitting Under there So else they wouldn't watch this But I still tell them They fucking get out And go a walk And try and do better Yeah But it's like a contradiction All the time You know Sometimes I'm back and forth With myself And I think Yeah you're pretty on it James You're a bit of a genius today And then other times I think Nah you're just fucked As the rest of them But that's and that's okay you know like for me like i'm i broke my my tib and fib um and my dad always says it's the best thing that ever happened to you because i started to basically go down a bit of a spiral really like me and my girlfriend she's now my wife but she went off to university like a five hour drive away and you know my band had just split up so i was just you know a bit a bit rudderless really mate yeah to be fair and um and you know i was playing football still for a bit of fun and i used to play beach soccer for england for five years but i wasn't playing internationally anymore so i didn't i basically got to a point james where i was like everything that i've done in my life that i would be proud of was in the past like i'm not doing it now and that became a bit of a shit like i'm not everything i talk about like oh yeah i did this i did that it's past tense and so i went a bit rudderless and i was getting booked and sent off in football matches which wasn't me.

2:13:21I mean, I was quite tough. But I remember getting sent off and ripping my shirt off and throwing it at the ref. It was like, what a twat. I know. And it was one of the first things that my girlfriend at the time saw me do on the football pitch. She was like, fucking hell. That wasn't me. And then I broke my leg in my next game. And I basically just was lying in bed for a month waiting for this surgeon to do the op and because it was pretty bad and i went through all these emotions as you do the stuff and and you know ups and downs and then in the end i just got to the point of like i'm all right me but as a person i mean well i try hard i'm sincere i'm honest make mistakes fuck up can be a bit of a twat but who can't yeah you know And you're almost like, I think we're too hard on ourselves sometimes as people.

2:14:21I think we beat ourselves up probably more than society beats us up. I need to be better. I need to be this. I need to be that. And I remember like, and maybe part of that is growing up with a famous father, to be honest, that there is that element of pressure because, and it didn't come from him far from it. But you know, when I started being a footballer, it's like, oh, you chip off the old block. Yeah. Your dad was a pro, you know? And then when, even when I was playing in bands, it's like, you know, you're on stage, like your dad's on stage, chip off the old block. And it was always like this, not rivalry at all, but almost like this need to, you know, basically not just be, oh, fucking hell, David Lightson's a waste of space.

2:14:55Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I remember my, I was going through all these different things. I was going, I was going to do this. I'm going to be this. I'm going to be that. And I remember my dad one day is going, Gaz, have you ever thought about just being? Like, just be who you are yourself and try and be something all the time. Like you're flitting from everything to try and I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do this. Have you ever thought about just being? And what was mad is I was probably about 25 at the time and I'd literally never thought about that. I'd never once thought, just exist.

2:15:24Being in the present. Just be. You know, what's this need for validation? From who? Because you already, by that point, I got to the age where I didn't really give a fuck what people thought of me. Yeah. So why do you now give a fuck? Like, it doesn't, that was, I was a complete contradiction. I don't give a shit what people think of me, but I really want them to love me. Why? I think that's society pressure though I think it's always trying to do something and try and fit in and try and be liked yeah maybe how important is family life for you it's everything mate it's everything yeah I mean it's why I do it like to be honest you know I've got two young kids um for me I've got an attitude of and I had this during the whole covid stuff because speaking at protests was never my thing like I'd go to protest I went to protest against the Iraq war in America around in England, but I'd never speak at protests or anything like that.

2:16:12And then it was a case of, you know, I was getting messages from people that were like, I'm with you. Cause I was vocal online, obviously. They were like, I'm with you, but I can't say that because I'll lose my fucking job or whatever. So I was like, right, well, I've, I've, I've got a duty then. But I think if maybe I'd have been, you know, a single guy with no dependence, you know, my attitude would probably be like, I'm old enough and ugly enough to not give a fuck. Like I'll just go and move to a croft on Isla and just fuck it, like whatever, and care. Throw what you want at me. Like I said earlier, chuck me in a duffel bag and chuck me in a reservoir.

2:16:40I can give a shit, really. I'll go off and explore wherever for a bit. But once you've got kids, you're like, nah, I'm not having them live in this world. No chance. And if they have to, if it ends up that they live in this world the way they want it to become. It won't be for the want of trying to stop it. And I think that's something that I think is quite important to ask yourself. Even if you've not got kids now, but in the future, if you have kids, if you're watching this, or you've got grandkids or whatever, and someone says, if in 20 years your kids or your grandkids say to you, Dad, Granddad, what did you do when they tried to bring in digital dystopia or whatever it might be?

2:17:27just, you know, have an answer that you can be proud of, not one you're ashamed of. You know, I remember as a kid, there was an advert on telly, and it was like, I'm pretty sure it was like a, they were putting, lifting a grand piano up into a top window, and there's a guy sat on a bench, and it just, the thing cuts, and it falls, and then it freezes, and he looks, and there's a Grim Reaper sat next to him. And then suddenly his life goes, wild like it's showing all his memories his life's flashing before his eyes and it's just there's all this incredible stuff that he's done he's tried to help people and done whatever and then it cuts back and he's like and the grim reaper's fast asleep and everything's just frozen and the piano is frozen and it's like he just gets up and he just creeps off and it's saying like you know when your life flashes before your eyes you know make sure you've got a lot to see basically and i think that would be my attitude as well that's the best way to be yeah and to be proud Be proud of it.

2:18:26And even your mistakes. Be proud of them too. Yeah, it takes a while to get there though. And that's why it's got to be so important for anybody who's just working to provide for a family. No matter your income, as long as you're providing, you're winning. Don't buy into the fake shit on social media. Don't buy in that you're not good enough. No matter if it's the milkman, the postman, the lorry driver, the builder, the policeman, whatever service you're in. Like, as long as you're providing, you might be tired, but you're doing the right thing as still being there, you know, and doing the, like families, everything.

2:18:54Yeah. going to be ups and downs, there's going to be question marks, could I be doing better? But as long as you've got family, you're running, that's the top of the tree for me. What's the plans for the future, brother? Um, more fighting, more battles. But to try and enjoy life at the same time, I think that's the thing that I've been quite bad at. Like, I'm all in, and I think you need to be all in on certain things. But you also need to find that balance and that joy. Because the world is a beautiful place. And people are actually beautiful, you know, inherently. There's a few dicks that get amplified.

2:19:29Um, and to try and, you know, find joy and stuff whilst fighting back. Because otherwise, what are you fighting for? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. If it's not, if there's no joy and love, then what's the point? Exactly. You know. For anybody watching, brother, there's maybe an illegal struggle. What advice would you have for them? Um, well, you're not on your own for a start. I think that's part of the issue. I think that people feel like they're alone and that it's only happening to them because people present this fake persona of themselves online, particularly, of 500 filters on their face.

2:20:04Each photo gets taken 12 fucking times just to find the one they're happy with, as opposed to the one that's real. Everyone's battling, everyone's battling. But actually, there's a lot to be said for a battle. They're the best people, ones that have faced trauma and been through stuff. And it doesn't last forever either. It feels like it does when you're in the middle of it, when you're in the eye of the storm, it feels like I'm fucked, like this is game over. But then suddenly it's not. The sun comes up again tomorrow and we go again. But that's how I of see life really in terms of that you know what was today like yeah i lost today actually got battered today i feel like but tomorrow i'll get up and we go again where can people watch your videos watch your youtube watch your instagram watch your x what's all your handles for people to get involved maybe ask questions yeah because it is these are scary even though it's just a friendly conversation just with two mates but it's still scary for people who don't know they're thinking what the are they talking about but for just people who want to question it yeah and want message you?

2:21:10How do they get involved? My ex is just Gareth Ike, just the name Gareth Ike. I'm trying to get in less arguments. I try not to buy it now. It's difficult every now and then. And then I've got a YouTube channel, which is just Gareth Ike. And then Iconic, which is our platform, it's a streaming platform with weekly shows and documentaries and films and everything else. And I'm making a documentary on fire furniture, fire regs at the minute, which sounds mad, but you know, it's a fucking rabbit hole, mate. Why is that? Well, basically I interviewed this guy and he could get a lot of whistleblowers talk to us and he used to work for government in fire safety regs and furniture, right?

2:21:54And so I saw, I was like, okay, that'd be interesting. I didn't really get where it was going in terms of this was during COVID. So, okay, it's fine. Mix up a bit. Mate, it blew my mind mate honestly like there is a serious fucking thing going on in terms of this country is the well britain is the only country left that has these flame retardant chemicals needed in furniture by law and they're fucking toxic mate and they're showing up in breast milk and and and and they they are what are killing so many people in in um fires grenfell it was basically what killed the people in grenfell and um he was explaining all this stuff and he's blowing the whistle on it and and basically it's basically the chemical industry is making a shitload of money the british furniture industry is making a shitload of money because foreign companies would have to use flame retardant chemicals to come into our market so they don't bother so these people are cornering the market and i'm finding this interesting is money and of course this shit goes on and then he said yeah they overturned it in america they overturned it here they overturned it there um we proved that essentially it killed the people in grenfell but during the inquiry it was omitted from the inquiry by i said who did that who had the power to do that he said patrick valance so i went i remember that freaking name, like the COVID name.

2:23:03And he said, yeah, actually, the fire retardant chemical regs were supposed to be removed here as well, but that was overturned. I was like, what? So they were going to take them out of the furniture? He's like, yeah, yeah, but it was overturned. I said, well, who overturned it? Matt Hancock. I went, the same names just popping up. And I was like, mate, we need to do a documentary. So we're making that now, which is far removed from everything else. But basically, he said, every house in the UK has an average of 40 kg of flame retardant toxic chemicals that are going into our skin every time we're sat on the sofa, every time your kid's lying on the mattress.

2:23:38It's fucking mad, mate. And I've spoke to, as part of the documentary that we've already made, some of the interviews we've already done, obviously, I spoke to a fireman who served at Grenfell, worked at Grenfell. Mate, the amount of firefighters at Grenfell that have either got or died of cancer is insane. It's insane, mate. They won't touch it. Did they ever get paid out? Is it still going on? Still going on. Shocking. Yeah. Absolutely shocking. For those families. Absolutely shocking. But again, you don't know when we talk about, we're just about to finish up there, but before we finish up, we talk about sacrifices.

2:24:15Yeah. These people have got to do sacrifices and there's rituals to kill people, to get up the ranks, you know, whether people believe it or not, but I can assure you it's real. like I'm not saying Grenfell was one of them but I'm just saying there's bigger things that people would be shocked if they actually heard the truth of. Would it shock you if it was though? It wouldn't shock me, I know, I know it's true Me either. No, I was saying if Grenfell was that wouldn't shock me, no chance you know, it's like how many bodies do you want, it's like do these things and then you can move up the ladder, you can be prime minister and I'm not saying that's how it all operates but nothing shocks me where people are being crucified and people are being ritual abuse and you look at all these top celebrities as well who actually lose kids.

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