Exposing London Scammers - Diego Galdino Warning to the Public

35:50So what was your first sort of video you put out? What was your first viral video when you done it and you thought, OK, this is working? The first one, the first one was me and a friend that he always helped me with cameras, this kind of stuff. Um, we was walking down to Oxford street was last summer. Uh, we stopped in front of M and S stores. We saw one group and. Mouth and Spencers. Yeah. Yeah. We just wait. And I was like, he pretended to using my mobile. My friend was like in looking dead and say, yes, she tried the first time. When I turned on, she was like reaching the bag of the lady, a lady from, I don't know if from South Arabia, from Kuwait, an old lady from Kuwait.

36:44And we was kind of heady. Pickpocket, pickpocket. We catch her like properly reaching the bag. We catch in the video.

36:56And everything's stopping on the stores. the security guys like say oh actually she's not a pickpocked and if you don't have any evidence we show the video for him like for trying to grab the girl for the police coming you know and say oh actually it's not not enough evidence and say okay we're running after the girls calling the police and the police say oh we don't have like any any any unity available for you i say okay uh if it was today we had managed the things different, you know, we're gonna arrest, make a citizen arrest 100%. We're gonna wait the police like for one, two, three hours if it was necessary, if you had the necessity.

37:37We're gonna paint if it was possible or something like that. But few years ago, the first time that I called the attention, I was in a, I was working, awaiting a order in a restaurant in Soho. I saw one guy inside of the restaurant, like holding maybe the menu, something like that. And he gave up of the restaurant and came out of the restaurant. He approached me and asked, oh, is it a camera? I said, yes. Is it recording? And I told him, no, but now yes. But why this guy is coming, approached me and asked about the camera? When I pressed, I didn't have battery in the camera because that time I was just wearing the camera.

38:20Just the fact of wearing the camera, I was like feeling safe. Same thing, maybe you are used to get your watch with you. In the day that you don't use it, it looks like something is missing on you. I had the same sensation. And then I started to record him with my mobile. He got in a second store and said, oh, this guy is like trying to do something. He's not like there for get food or something like that. And then came on my mind, oh, the guy with the paper, the map, the journal that's trying to snatch phones. Like, you know, cover, make it talk with the people, cover the mobile and hold the mobile.

38:59And then he came out from the second store and got in in the third store. When he left the third store, he was carrying a bag. And I was recording just for sending to my friends. and once he came out with the bag and I said, left the bag, it's not yours. And he just dropped the bag and started to run away. So I really was like, they say, oh, my Stinty is good for that. And then I take the bag with me, went to the restaurant, say for the manager, I don't know if this bag is from the staff or from some customer. These guys show him the picture, the video. These guys just came here, he's stealing.

39:39and here we are now you bring you give back to the owner and yeah that was what the first one and then i was doing my deliveries i always see the chips in doing that you know around the restaurants around the tables of the restaurants this kind of stuff what do you actually need to make a citizen's arrest what do you need uh we need like uh not not a suspicion we need like to have a hundred percent of sure that you hit the people was like committing a crime like the acted of they trying to reach the bag it's one crime uh just the attempt is one crime that is enough and we feel safety uh we can do the seats and rest keep it then uh of course if you need to use the force we use we need to use like a moderate force uh reasonable reasonable reasonable yeah something Of force.

40:36Yeah. So you can hold them. Yes. I like, actually I avoided to grabbing the arms, mainly of the girls, you know, like I avoid to grab the arms. I always like holding the jacket or the, the, the, the, the bags or something like that and try to keep them. Um, cause many of them are women. Unfortunately, the, the, it's getting better. It's like kind of the culture of the gypsy people. So the men put the women for stealing or the kids on the street, they just stay in the background or something like that. And yeah, women is like more easy to do. The guys want to fight in this kind of stuff. And then we try, if it's possible, we do the sit and rest.

41:21If it's not, we just paint and let them go. When you say paint, what do you do? Yeah. Actually if they have like white clothes, go in the clothes. but as they have like two, three jackets with them, they remove. If it's the dark one,

41:39the jacket, for example, if it's dark, like mine blue, they're going to absorb, it's not going to be like visible, the red one. So I always do the hand or the face or something like that, or the shoes, you know, because they're not going to remove the shoes. Maybe they can, but... So you spray the face of the pickpockets? Yeah, face or hands. Is it more women and men you see pickpocketing? Or is it kind of the same? I would say like 75 % is women. Is that? Yeah, fuckers. And the people say, oh, you just go for women. They say, bro, it's women that own the street, unfortunately. And if I see one woman and I say, oh, I'm not gonna go because it's a room, I'm gonna go for a man.

42:16No, I'm gonna try to avoid that time where they are right now. This kind of stuff. Is that any of them, do you think, are maybe being forced also to do it? that being pressured from the mafia or pimps or other people to then do what they're doing? Or do you think it's a business they've created for themselves? It's a business. It's a business. But it's kind of like, I would say like, it's kind of cultural. I don't, I'm not going to say that they are forcing to do that, you know? I always try when we do like the CITS and R.S., I always try to ask you for them, but badly they talk in English sometimes, you know, or they pretend that they don't talk English for don't say the name or this kind of stuff, you know?

42:56but i don't think so we have like pimps we have like for example here in oxford street we have some known guys that we see them around you know that the pickpockets are inside of the stores you know because actually they are waiting outside of the stores once the the the lady grabs some credit card mobile phones this kind of stuff they deliver it to these guys and this guy is gonna go to buy wines, perfume. They go to Selfridge to expense, to buy, make shopping. They go to Apple to grab iPhone or something like that, you know. Or they can like make loans and drain your bank account with your mobile.

43:43I don't know how they do that, but they can give you one way that they can get the money of your accountant. And these guys are daily on the street. So they can get into your banking apps? Yeah. They can go into your bank or they can go like in second apps and make loans or asking for a credit card, like a virtual credit card, this kind of stuff. Yeah, they would have their IDs, their driving license, possibly passport. They've got their address, they've got their date of births. So they're getting loans and other stuff and ordering stuff. We have a lot of victims that they did it. Or sometimes, like as the mobile has mainly the iPhone ones have a good value in China.

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46:08once they get like a device is not like from china uh this mobile like the double of the price you know and it's very valuable on china like maybe they're gonna pay the double for the mobile just because it's not like like one device from from from china what about the gamblers the ones who use the gambling the card games the sort of cups when they've got a ball under them they're moving them around. Are they also pet pocketing to these people? I mean, they are a big group around the bridge, you know, um, I, the last time I've seen them was like six months ago and they, one, uh, Tik Toker confront them.

46:49The Tik Toker got smashed and they disappear. And the last like two weeks, they show up there again in the bridge, uh, last Saturday, like one week ago, they was operating Westminster Bridge and Jubilee Bridge, the Embank Bridge that crossed to South Bank. I really believe that if they have the opportunity to steal the people around, they're going to steal because they are a big group. They are not just like the two guys from making the tricks. They are just around then, I would say, they have like six, seven, eight people and they have like a rude background around, you know, like both ways of the bridge, more people around, I would say that there are 15, 20 people just for one group, you know.

47:38And of course, if they have the opportunity for pickpocketing the people around, they're going to do. Well, that's perfect because you can see who's coming onto the bridge. You can see who's going off it. You've got full visuals of who's going to be there. Yeah. Last Sunday, they was in Jubilee Bridge. Me and two friends went there with the dogs. They stop, they hide the cups, everything, and vanish from there. When we return, we met the inspector of South Lambert Police. We talked with them, oh, you know that these are happening again in the bridge. They say, oh, yes, we have this CCTV, this kind of stuff.

48:16So they know. The police know about everything. They know about pickpockets and they know where the crimes happened. They know who are the pickpockets. But in the end, they don't take too much action. I don't guilt the police officers. I know that they don't have enough stuff. I know they have a lot of crimes and maybe more hard crimes for dealing with. But still, we can't close the eyes, you know, because in the end of the day, there is a good amount that they are stealing. They are making a mess in someone's lives, this kind of stuff. How many do you catch per day? if you go like if you go now on the street you can find some of them maybe like uh the day that there was a salt like two weeks ago here we catch like 10 inside of primark here on oxford street like 5 a.m 5 p.m 10 people at 5 p.m 10 people inside zara just in one corner like inside zara now inside of primark and why primark uh i would imagine that's the there's people shop in there because it's cheap, but I'd imagine you're maybe not get as lucrative as Harrods or Selfridges.

49:30Uh, I would say, I think it's still, uh, the opportunity to grab one mobile for them. Pretty much. Always busy as well. Yeah. And iPhone, everyone's have iPhone, so they can make like maybe 200 pounds, 300 pounds with one iPhone. So it's one day for them, you know, once we arrive in the primary key was our first first of all we are around we arrive around the marble watch we found like a couple we follow them they take like the way to interrode land as we didn't have taken wasn't or go out to go in the winter road land we give up we returned to the primark we found three on the stores and they left and say let's like concentrate here they left they go so here we're gonna find more and And outside of the store had two known ones that we really know.

50:21I think she was waiting for the guys, for the pimp guys to come to collect something. And me and my friend separated off each other. I saw one tall girl, long hair with hat, and I said, maybe. Once she had the opportunity, the staff was like putting the clothes in the hoops with the bags on the side. And I said, good victim for her. I just waiting and she took like a random, a random t-shirt, a random t-shirt and went for the lady. Once she went to the lady, put the hand away, jump inside of her. I said, pickpocket. She'll start to run away on the street and start to go to Marylebone and start darken.

51:09I was alone as my friend was separated of each other. uh, uh, say let's concentrate again on primary. We came and we found the three, another three ones. And the one that make it is this scar on me. And, uh, so what happened to your head? Because obviously now it becomes more dangerous when you start getting scars and a bloody face. Like it's, I wouldn't say it's life or death, but people will do anything to get away or not do prison time, you know? So that is still putting yourself and your life on the line because you don't know who's carrying what. Like what happened to your head when you got this car?

51:49This lady was a very known lady on my profile, on other profiles. I have a lot of videos of her like stealing, getting arrested or this kind of stuff. Once she saw me, she already cover the face and I start to inside of the store guys check your belongs we have like pickpocked of the stores check your belongs for everyone touch if maybe they got like the mobile or something like that and we start they she starts running away around oxford street she gets into the cab the black cab I told for the guy oh she's a pickpocked and the guy instantly the driver started get out of my car you're not gonna bring you with me she got out we keeping like uh follow her for a few meters and and i say she's a pickpocket i have evidence of her i know that she's in the area for pickpockets like nine percent of sugar like the shield was there for pickpockets and with her colleague that is a pickpock and i start to spray start to spray once i hit her in the in front of her for a spray she got the mobile and make this movement on my forehead and instantly open and i didn't see uh i just feel like something warm liquidy on me dripping on me i check in the floor was blue and said now i need to arrest you like for assaulting or something like that and we did we grab her uh one more time we grab it like in the coats she dropped one coat We grab one bag, she drop one bag, like, what's street coat?

53:28And two, she just like wearing the bra. She removes everything for don't grab her because they know that we're not gonna grab her. But we can, but we avoid forgive them, like some excuse later for in the court. And we call the police. The police arrive like in five minutes. They give us all the support. She got arrested for assaulting. and she was released on bail and she need to return it to the police station in the next month the next two weeks i think so but uh as i told you always when i upload some big box photo on my profile a lot of people came oh these people are stealing from me these people stealing from my mother, all these people stealing like 10 ,000 from me or something like that.

54:20I had like more evidence from this person, like CCTV of her stealing. We had the victims, so I already bring to the officers because we don't have any formal way conversation with the police, but we changed like information with some officers, actually the group that works on the covers around the city catching pickpockets and this kind of stuff. The guys are really proactive guys. They work so hard. And I bring the evidence for them. Look, the same lady that attacked me that made this issue on my forehead, we had the CCTV of her stealing. We have the victims here. We have the CAD number of the crime reference number.

55:08So it's up to you right now. Like, you put a crime on her or not, you know. So now we need to wait until she show up again, if she show up again in the police station to get her arrested, you know. Because we have everything you need. Is that the first time, though, you've ever been cut? Yeah. I've been spiked already. I've been kicked. At ZocDoc, we know you care about your health. You wouldn't do that early morning cardio if you didn't. So the fact that your annual physical is overdue just shows how hard it can be to get seen by a doctor. Sorry, that doctor's not in network. Press 1 for more options.

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57:01And we're back. reason to live. Uh, try to be punishy or something like that. Or sometimes it's punishy, you know, like another day the guy running after me with a hood stick like that. I managed to run away and spray him then properly. You can handle that though. Like once it's, once you start getting cut though, because even though it was a phone, it could have been a knife. Yeah. And if that was a woman who was doing that, imagine the damage a man would have done. You know, because people don't want to go to prison. You don't know the life story. you don't know why they're doing it obviously it's wrong but people do whatever they can to escape yeah does it make you reassess does it make you question of what you're then doing yeah i mean that was a good lesson you know she hits me with the mobile actually is a tactic of them like hold the mobile pretty pretty strong and hints in the forehead because gonna make this damage uh another colleague me from Barcelona have the same issues.

57:59And yeah, we learn with that. Of course, in the next approach, we're going to care about it as we do right now. We always look around for see if you don't have like 30 persons around or something like that. You know, next time you're going to keep more distance. We're not going to let the person touch the pockets or something like that, because actually we can do, you know, like don't touch your mobile, don't reach your pockets, keep your hands like where I can see you or something like that. You know, we're going to try to manage better. It's one thing for learning. What about the pregnant woman?

58:31Uh, the pregnant woman, uh, she got the baby. She got baby here in UK and probably, uh, she's going to be like, uh, uh, English seats. There's one of your videos that you've pinned. It was the pregnant woman smoking. Yeah. Who was pickpocketing people. Yeah. But what was she doing? Actually, she's well known as well. Both of them are well known. So the pregnancy was real? Yeah, yeah. Both of them was real. But we have fakes one. We have fakes one. So you have fake pregnancies because it is a good disguise. You ain't going to think, oh, pregnant, even burkers and stuff. It's a great fucking disguise.

59:14First of all, you're hiding your identity. Second of all, you're not really going to touch anybody with a burker. I think we're probably more protected than anyone in the UK. People would be scared too. So there are great disguises. So the woman who was smoking pregnant, she was pickpocketing people. Yeah. Yeah, they do. Um, we had another one that the famous one that, uh, keep acting around here, around the Sloan Square, this kind of stores. She like have three years that she's pregnant. Always we catch them like me or people before the security guys. I'm pregnant, I'm pregnant, but actually she's not, you know, even if she's pregnant, they're going to be arrested, they're going to be sprayed, like, no mercy for them, I don't have like this.

59:57It's like when you see a homeless person with a dog, I will give them money because I'm soft as well, like, there is great ways of changing people's perception or changing people's outlook, and, yeah, it's just business, and she's obviously found a way of the security letting her go if she's pregnant like it is a great fucking disguise and if men could use it they probably would yeah the same like these people that pretend to be homeless i mean not the ones like the beach ones like the crackheads this kind of stuff but the gypsy ones is there is the business of them like go to the street sit down you can realize you can see that they always they have like the same cartoon the same plate with the same writing their same rating it's the same people they came like in a van, they drop down to Marble Ward, then off-dance and go in the street to bagging money.

1:00:51So they are very professional, you know? It's the profession. They are not bagging money because they need to. What sort of age groups are you seeing? Are you seeing children to old people? I mean... We see like more old people, old people, not children at all. Not children. Here, not. Around Europe, like another country, we see more like children people. I catch one another day inside of Victoria Station. I didn't see the face, but for the voice, for the body type, I really believe she was underage. I really believe she was. But men of those are more adult person. Yeah. And the CPOs, that's close protection officers.

1:01:38Yeah. Who don't know? Because I interviewed Fred. Do you know Fred? Fred, yeah. He's in Barcelona. He's all over the world sometimes. But they are getting into proper fights as well. And do you ever think that it could go wrong with certain people trying to get away? Yeah. So you have to wear a stab-proof vest? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can't go out without a stab-proof vest. Once I have it, once I have it, why should I keep it at home? You know, it's better on me than at home, never know. Yeah. And yeah, I know Fred, we talk with each other sometimes. Actually, the CPO that follow me is like a colleague of Fred as well.

1:02:18She has worked with Kurt Cass here in the UK. She's a really professional CPO. He works with royal families, this kind of stuff, this kind of people, very important people. he just came with me like for the pleasure to to help me and he really oh i don't have nothing for to do today let's go to patrol in the street and he came together you know like kind of of course he have like his skill he gonna use if his need but yeah kind of cpo and kind of a volunteer that came with me do you think it's now harder though because now you're being known like you see you're getting worldwide headlines so is it more difficult for you because of the headlines you're making I mean, we are trying to use the surprise effect, you know.

1:03:05Once we, for example, we are on the street, we get inside of the store very quickly, check everything and get out, you know. But yeah, the people recognize us on the street. We have a lot of information as well from the security guard, security from the stores, undercover security. So your people are around, come here. and the bike as well is a very it's a very fatigue you know when they can't see because they are concentrated in to do the what they need to do and I concentrate on them from far away when they try to reach someone like boom we kind of hate them you know. What sort of safety tips would you have for people to protect themselves for being sort of having pickpockets around them?

1:03:52Yeah I mean London if you like if you blink the thing is gonna happen with you unfortunately you know so keep your valuables at home in the hotel came into the street don't need too much money uh give like to to on your mobile put like uh to authentics like uh like your face and another pin number hard penumba just go don't go to the street like you think that is safety because unfortunately you can get robbery so avoid choosing your mobile on your pockets they're gonna reach your pockets you're not gonna realize when you go to the stores like zara primary mainly for the ladies when they gonna change and prove the the clothes in the feature rooms don't let your bag announce it you know once you go outside in check in the mirror they gonna grab your bag because they are watching you like for a long time since you get inside of the stores they are already watching you so keep your belongs 100 % attach on you.

1:05:07Don't let your bag, your backpack, like, don't keep like wallet, like valuables thing on your backpack. They're going to take advantage of it. I mean, for this problem, London is still safe. But unfortunately, we have this kind of issues happen here. If you care about your security, care about your stuff, is everything going to be fine? What sort of areas should people avoid? They say Westminster and Camden's the worst, but people still want to go there. They want to see Big Bend. They want to see Parliament. I think Leicester Square as well is as bad for pickpockets. But what is the main areas from your own experience that people should try and avoid?

1:05:48Uh, I mean, it's hard to say that people avoided this place, this place, you know, like just, just be aware, like I would say pubs and bars, when you sit down with your bag, backpack, you came from the office or you are in the end of your day, you go into the happy hour with your colleagues, with your friends, like keep your bag with you. If you drop your bag here next to you, they're going to watch, they're going to try to redirect. But I would say restaurants, pubs, crowd places at all in the public transport, if you give them the opportunity they gonna they gonna catch you unfortunately. Is there certain people targeted though?

1:06:32Is it the old, the young, females or is it anyone? Anyone that give you the opportunity for them they're gonna they're gonna act you know but in general when I see like one group of Asian people or old people I always keep my attention on it because they usually to target these people you know it's sad though that people coming to hola there's a lot of chinese here as well but they're i think they'd be more of a target because they have the cameras around the neck they've got their their new phones out like them and it's a shame because they're thinking yeah everything's okay but you can see why they would be a target because they have everything they've got bags they've got money yeah and people came to here for to enjoy to see the sciences to relax and they are to like enjoy and take pictures this kind of stuff and then make easy for them you know i had one friend that she's asian she's like chinese actually she was coming from the jean she just have like the jean stuff on the backpack and a bottle of water and two gypses was following her and say she stopped it open look i just have like my bottle of water what do you want?

1:07:46And they keep following them for a long time. Yeah, unfortunately for the Asians, it's hard. What do you think would need to change to make the streets safer? Obviously, crime is through the roof as well because there's a lot more poverty. The price of living is so expensive now. So it's not that I agree with people who do crime, but I also understand why people do it. People are struggling. They either got to steal or they'll starve. No, no. But what do you think would really need to change for the bigger picture, for all that? Yeah. I think these people, they are professional, you know, they are not doing that for survival or this kind of stuff.

1:08:20It's the same way that one guy go to robbery a bank, I would say. It's the professional. They are not doing that because their family can pay the rent or can buy food or something like that. I completely understand when one guy go to the shopping mall, like when they are in the, what are you going to do now? I need to feed my kids. Yeah. I need to grab a bottle of milk or grab food or something like that. I don't condemn this kind of stuff. Even I think that's not the right way to do the things. But yeah, I think the law is a little bit soft for these people. Once they get robbery, they are only stealing daily, daily, daily.

1:09:09In the end of the month, they can do it. into shops now and just into gregs and just filling up their bag and i think the staff have been told not to do anything i think it's a free crime the petty stuff isn't getting took to court because there's just not enough funding there's not enough space in prisons so obviously the laws is the most important one there's a bit strict laws like you look at dubai or certain countries in the middle east you get your fucking hands chopped off you know like you're getting sent to prison i think the laws and many things in the uk are very very lenient and that's why i think people do what they can do.

1:09:41And when you see people just like, it must be scary for the people who actually work in the shops, when you have people coming in, just filling up bags of food. Mainly, mainly for the security as well. They can't do too much, you know, they are just there actually basic for a policy of the insurance of the store, you know, they're not going to act in too much. And some police officers as well, they are just there for the paycheck in the end of the month, you know, like actually we have like leads in with some officers that I would say for you, like a shame, you know, shame. As the group that I told you, the undercover ones, they work pretty hard.

1:10:19I don't know until he gonna have his team up with him, unfortunately. But yeah, we have like, basically me, we have like a good support from the, the fighter arm team. Always when I approach them for talk with them they actually very hardly he always as they always ask for us oh blow your face in this kind of stuff it's very hard you know like blurry face this kind of stuff but actually i even like don't don't share much when i have like some situations with them but yeah we have like some police officer that is like is shame you know shame yeah i think the corporation the corporation at all you know like uh i would say the police is like powerless in some situations um it's hard to find some officers that work hard you know like it's being proactive or something like that but luckily we have a good ones look we have good ones and why did you not become a police officer because of the this kind of stuff uh even the police i was at court a few months ago and my friend was at trial like the place is bad enough catching the criminals but the police now obviously i didn't realize the extent but they have to then go to court and prove that they're not lying and the majority of the time the people think the police are setting them up so not only have you got to catch the criminals you've then got to prove that you're not a corrupt cop you know so so much to take into consideration where i was from everybody grew up to hate the police because everybody was doing bad but what they actually have to go through on a daily basis look the police should be more respected than what people give them for because of what they have to see what they have to do what they have to go through what they've got to take home at night mentally like they do so much great work and i take my hat off to any police officer out there watching or listening like keep up the great work and keep doing what you're doing i just don't think there's enough in place to help them see the things they do yeah i mean uh my jujitsu coach is a police officer retired so she gives he gives me a lot of advice you know and in february i make my subscription to participation to the police and i was talking with them i want to you know i really really want to be a police officer and in the end we like after days and days in a conversation.

1:12:54In the end, I give up, you know. I make the subscription on February, and in March, I still took it off my... Why? As the advisor of him, like, say, oh, as a police officer retired, like, the way that you want to make some justice, you know, like, how you are exciting to the police. If you go to the police, you're going to be frustrated, you know. they're gonna put you like two years in the hospital guard or they're gonna go they're gonna say for you go in this manifestation be like all day like that I can see that you are very productive person we you really want to make some difference maybe sometime is like crossing the laws for to do that and yeah in the end I gave up I really can't see that here is one thing that the police would make me happy.

1:13:49Mainly for taking out of my liberty, like my freedom, you know? And I wouldn't like act too much. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For what you're doing now, you can do what you want when you want. Obviously, got to abide by the laws. But every police officer I have interviewed, they all struggle. Imagine seeing that. Now, you see pickpockets. Imagine seeing the stuff that they see. every day, suicides, deaths, rapes, child's being abused, like it's so damaging. It's police officers see more than people who go to war, because they're seeing it on the daily for 10 and 20 and 30 years. Imagine at Christmas time, you could be with your family, you need to deal in with one guy that killed one kid or something like that.

1:14:37It's like you... There's not enough protection for a police officer. Exactly. I didn't realize this until I started interviewing them, Because if you're doing bad when you're a kid, obviously the police are the enemy, but you'll get good police who want to clean up the streets. The sad thing is the streets will never be clean because there's just a revolving door. People who used to go undercover and catch criminals and drug lords, the next day when the drug lord has got life, there's just someone else to take their place. Yeah. It's just never ending, you know? No, I mean, I really believe some people have these, how can I say they grow up for to be police officers and other ones are just there for the the paycheck in the end of the month and this one when we met this kind of people you say oh look that guy I have evidence of them I have a video I paint them he's a pickpock can you at least like make a stop search maybe he have some stuff stolen with him the police oh I can't and walk away for why make give up of this uniform you know like those go to do something else they should be doing everything but again it's paperwork yeah if this is eight o 'clock at night he's maybe coming off his shift he doesn't want to do paperwork for two three hours yeah but but i i really feeling right now that they are more engaged you know mainly when i call them or mainly when i point some pickpockets, they are, I think they are know about the situation, know about the social media because the media as well give you a good expose to this for, for us and they are acting, you know, because if they don't act, you're going to put their face in the, and I'm going to show, you are like, I'm not like trying to intimidate them, you know, but once like I point out that guy is a pickpocket, he's stealing, you're not going to do nothing.

1:16:29Unfortunately, I'm not going show for the society that you're not gonna do nothing. What is the laws for posting them online? Do they have any protection when you post videos of the pickpockets if they're committing a crime? Can they sue you or get you charged? They can't. They wouldn't want to go to court anyway. But they can do that. They can. I mean they can say that I harassed them or they can say that they wasn't stealing or something like that but yes i just go for that once that i have evidences you know like or if it's not like i'm a witness at least go to the cctv go to do something else because i really can prove that they are pickpockets you know yeah i think what you do is great you know same as like the pedophile hunters like the vigilantes who kind of try and make the world a better place by exposing things and trying to protect them there was a guy though you ever come across cycling mickey cycling mickey used to video people when they maybe stopped in their car and they were on their phones listen it's still a crime i understand it but i just felt like people were losing their jobs and losing their families because they were yeah on their phone like i i think it's great being a vigilant and clean up because i just think you're clearly targeting people they're not really doing anything wrong but again it is a crime so i understand people's argument but it's not as if they were just standing part and he's going through their windows and people are losing their job like you're targeting pickpockets who's harming innocent people i would say the same guy that to go in the shop he's stealing for food you know yeah it's kind of the milk or the cheese yeah there is a thin line but again they're still committing a crime you know so you can't just target one people and let others go so i do understand his side of it I don't agree with his side but I do understand they're still committing crimes and maybe it will stop them from harming someone down the line maybe on their phones but I think we're living in a day where people are learning how to drive actually on their phones I think it's just becoming a skill where people actually forget yes you shouldn't be doing it so for anybody watching or listening don't be fucking doing it but I just think everybody's there is a fine line between it all you know how do you get treated with the sort of vigilante sort of tag now are people okay with you yeah yeah actually like uh 99 of the the comments that i have like on social media is like positive you know like it really make me feeling happy that i can support i can do something for the society you know like i'm an immigrant here but as before i came here just for work just for producing have my life here you know I was like kind of full of the delivery you know like even I had like my professional Brazil I didn't would like I didn't want to work with as accountant here you know like delivery have like some freedom that in the same time you are prisoner of this freedom you know because I don't have a boss I can work wherever I want of course in the winter it's hard or something when it's rain is hard but still you can do like a good money and you have your freedom but i was full of that and i was like asking for something else you know i need to to do something else what i'm gonna do like i'm gonna change my professional i'm gonna do like i'm gonna be like a truck driver or something like that i was like thinking about that and i always always was always when i go So always when I wake up, you know, I ask for God.

1:20:04God, give me the opportunity to make someone's life, the difference in someone's life, you know. And I really believe that God gives me this way to make someone's life better, you know. Once I can stop one pickpocket, once someone shakes my hand and says, Oh, you are doing a good job. I really feel like very touchy, you know. I wasn't like one person that I cry too much or giving my emotions. But when someone like say, oh, you're doing a good job, like I really feeling, you know, like sometimes I cry alone or something like that because I really, sometimes I don't have, I don't have a notion how big my job it is or how big is my social medias.

1:20:49but it doesn't feed my ego at all. If I put one video, I get like 100 views and put there give you one million views. For me, it's indifferent. Of course, if one million views, more people want to be aware, more people going to like it, but doesn't feed my ego. But yeah, I really think for the comments from the people and the support that I have from the community, I'm doing a good job. Yeah, that's a good thing. And I think if you wear a police officer, I think you'd be a good copper. I think the majority of people though do go in with the good mindset it's the same people who maybe go into politics they go in with the right mindset that they can create change and then I think the fucking job and the industry just sucks them dry they lose themselves completely and like you see that cop who didn't want to do the search you don't know what he's seen that day, the day before or the 10 years prior where he's just tired you know just becomes robotic but you can't lose yourself because you've got a duty of care you've got to make people feel safe and as much as we can talk about london and pickpockets london's still a great place there's so much beauty here all around the uk all around europe all around the world social media can make us think the world is fucked in certain parts it is but majority of people are good the majority of people just want to go on with their life and get to work and provide for their family beautiful you know but it doesn't then we can't then forget that there is badness and there is people doing bad to good people you know how does your dad feel is your dad's uh out of you yeah he's he's very just like my father is like a very hard guy he doesn't show up too much emotion you know that's the job yeah but i feel that he's proud you know and all my family is probably they always like little be all be careful, this kind of stuff.

1:22:44But yeah, I can see they are very proud of it. Were they surprised? Yeah, I did. When you went from Deliveroo driver to fucking vigilante on the TV and doing podcasts? Yeah, I mean, it was everything new for them. It was everything new for me. I never planned to do that. I never imagined, oh, I want to be a YouTuber. I want to be on social media. Far away from it. I was, I am like an introvert person. As we are here, so like taking a conversation for me is easy, but for me, stopping with you in a cafe or something like that, to start a conversation with you is going to be hard, you know. I'm not going to say that I'm a shy person.

1:23:28I'm not a shy person, but I'm introvert, you know, mainly in my city. In my city, we don't talk with a strange person yeah my job is talking outside i think off man but leave me alone i just want to be with my dogs bro i'm in the same right now like but if someone approaches me i'm nice you'll never get a person approach me and go he's a prick i will speak to anybody everybody a majority of the time i walk alone myself but i think off like i think off like it's there it's not i'm being bad i just I think it's good to recharge and reset because interviews I do very intense as well, your job will be intense so your central nervous system will be tight, you know, because you don't know you're looking behind your shoulder, who's they here, how many people are working in this team is it time to, these people are going to attack with knives because you maybe put their mum in prison, like it does take a lot of mental energy you know, from everything that we do in life, so sometimes it's good to recharge but When people do see me, I'm a nice guy, but I think, fuck off.

1:24:34Yeah. Like for me, I leave it like 24 hours, you know, like the first thing that I'm, I even like the end of my sleep, like five, six and then I'm saying, oh, where are I going to go today? Where are you going to visit you today? Which video are you going to put today? Which person are you going to realize video today? Like I leave it, you know, like message all the time. me like, I'm like, make a map of people, um, tracking where they bring these mobiles where like, like I live with it all the time, you know? Yeah. It takes up a lot because then it becomes a business because then you're known as that guy, pickie pockie, like exposing.

1:25:16What is it you say? Pickie pockie. Pickie pockie. Is that your kind of saying now? Yeah. It's like, uh, in the Brazilian accent because I tend to talk in Brazilian accent. So we say like, same when I say Facebook, not bookie, something like that. Love is like something like that. You know, we tend to put the stress on these words. So yeah, like I'm trying to develop myself, develop my skills on English, develop my skills on social medias, editing, as everything's new for me. and I see like a rude opportunity for to grow up and make my life on it like I really gonna grab it and I'm gonna make it.

1:26:02Yeah you're already doing it sometimes you forget how far you've come yeah you know from where you started from 100 followers and not really knowing where to go. I really I really know like I really have my yeah I really know where I came from you know I came from nothing I came from uh without planning everything you know but yeah I see a good opportunity and then yeah just grab it with both hands because sometimes we do get lost because everybody wants to be accepted in life we all want to be liked so when you start being getting attention and getting liked it does feel good but sometimes it takes us away from our purpose is when i started this podcast it was all about addictions and trying to create change and trying to create how to change and then sometimes you get caught up in your own importance you think i'm smashing it you think yeah but then you can get lost yeah so i'm bringing it back to the basics and understanding that people who watch and listen to this are struggling and it's good to understand people's different perceptions of life and people who overcome struggles and make changes and become better like i say it's good that your feet are still firmly on the ground because it can go to our head brother it can go women giving attention and you're becoming everything can change and it can ruin a lot of people when they start getting popularity you know like it's it's good to find the balance but if you said you do brazilian if you do jiu-jitsu and that that will keep you grounded yeah like the jujitsu actually is a good escape for me yeah the day that well i'm a little bit anxious i go there i training for one two hours i gave advice from my coach actually a hoodie, hoodie, Kogi from my coach, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie Cobb.

1:27:47He gave me a lot of advice, you know, like he's actually my father here and he helped me a lot. Eddie, Eddie Cobb. So he used to be a copper, police officer? Yeah, I know Eddie. Yeah, I know Eddie. Yeah, I know Eddie. Tell him I was asking for him. Yeah, he used to be a police officer. Yeah, so that's it. My advice came from there. Yeah, good. But that's all it is, is to keep the foot on the ground and enjoy life. But where can you go with it? Do you then go like Barcelona, Rome, Paris? Do you take it worldwide? Yeah, yeah, 100%. But as I can see, London is fucking busy off pickpock right now.

1:28:26You're going to trade and give the attention here. Actually, for the supports that I'm having from the community as well, they do a lot of donations for me. So I have like, how can I say, I need to come here for them as well, you know, I have the kind of the obligation to work in here. But yeah, this place is one place for exploring. Actually, we change a lot of information, you know, because the pickpockets travel around. So once they are here, they can be there in the next days. And we change, oh, the pickpockets that are here are traveling to UK or have videos of them, this kind of stuff. another day uh the guys from madrid called me say oh your pickpock is here and they try to they start to talk with you i know why you left alone oh because i have a crazy guy like painting us there so it's there but it's good to have in the database of people to yeah because it might make people want to stop doing it because if you're getting painted if you're being embarrassed online that shit is there forever you know so maybe it'll make people think twice yeah you know and hopefully we could do things for like knife crime and other certain things because it is good for like even the pedo hunters exposing these people maybe it makes people question not harming someone today not stealing from someone today so as much as people might think oh you shouldn't be doing this on social media and it's mainly the people prepare for you yeah make the people aware that's happened in the city like don't be scared just be aware you know like uh oh maybe i was thinking that one like pickpock is not one thing that happened london but unfortunately haven't and they can they can come here like prepare you know like i'm gonna be aware i'm gonna watch all my stuff's on on the corner or wherever i go you know and the people text me oh thanks for your job we went to london was everything okay of course it's not of my not just because of me We have like police officers on the street.

1:30:23We have people working as well. But yeah, the social media is a good way for making the people work. How can people support you? How can people get involved? I mean, we avoid to get like volunteers with us on the street because, yeah, we don't want to put the people in risk. You know, like we are engaged with these pickpockets. We know how to lead with that. I can't control how the people are going to react. if you come with me i don't know you don't know me i don't know how you're gonna react when you see some big popped so maybe you can smash them or maybe you can get like in trouble and then the guilt is gonna be mine you know so uh we just like go in the street with some people that we know um but if the people wanna like support us like financially we have like a gofound me that people can do donations to us there and just like help us like to share our contents and this kind of stuff is and it's enough.

1:31:24What about is there any other vigilantes doing the same as you? Uh no actually we have one guy uh I don't know him ever uh I know that he's like a special police officer and he put like some faces of the speakboxes on social media as well he's not too viral as us as my page but yeah he's doing a good job as well but he don't show much on the social media you know but apart of that I don't think so the thing about social media though because you're doing so well because you're getting all this attention people will jump out the woodwork and try and copy but as long as they're doing it for the right reasons because people might just do it for the attention you know and people like it's great doing what you're doing but people then try and get the views they try and get that rage bait that clickbait but that's where they'll go wrong yeah they let the i mean i i don't mind i recommend my fans oh if you want to open a page for you let's do it that i help you i share your content just do the things in the right way i get like message of all the tiktokers around europe around the uk so bro let's let's like let's like make contents together i say bro unfortunately i can you do tiktokers like talking about food why do you want to catch big pockets like it's not one thing for funny you know, like even me, I don't, I can't make much fun with them because some YouTubers, some TikTokers can do that.

1:33:07When I see them, I get like very mad. I get like angry, you know, like this action. I shout with them like hardly, motherfucker, what are you doing here? This kind of stuff, you know, I try, I like, I never like get like fighting or something like that. It's not my goal always that I have the opportunity for escape. I'm going to escape. I'm not going to fight or this kind of stuff. But yeah, I'm not there for funny, you know. What sort of paint do you use? It's a criminal identifier. It's a kind of gel. It's an ink gel. It's 100 % legal in UK. It's not considered like a firearm. As I told you before, like all the action that we have is like a reasonable...

1:33:51Reasonable... Reasonable... Proportion. Yeah. Like that. Because before we were shouting with the pickpocked, they well know, we have evidence from then, I know that they are pickpocked. So I shout with them, they cross the street, they keep stealing, you know. But when we have like the opportunity to lose the paint, we frustrated that they, you know. How long is it still on them for? If it dries properly, as the guy sometimes we use like two cans, three cans of sprays. until they arrive, I don't know, infield, some East London. It's going to take some time. It's going to dry properly. It's like it's going to make it hard for they remove the paint.

1:34:31See, when you spray people, does it glow up in the dark or anything? Yeah. Does it go, can you see it in the dark? Yeah, in the UV light. Yeah, you can see it. Actually, this, this ink is possible to remove easy. Maybe like if you wash like it properly one day in the second day, you can remove properly, but it's going to be hard. You need to scratch properly, but still have like some UV light reaction. Even they remove that red paint, it's possible to track them for a few days. so as a lot of people go into these restaurants and pubs are they working themselves stealing briefcases and stealing bags like can restaurants as well what are they doing what is their signature signs like what is should people look up for because you see videos like people maybe put a newspaper down lift the newspaper and lift their phones and stuff like what are the things that people do when they're sitting in restaurants yeah uh you're gonna see you know people walking around looking to the bag, looking to strange suspicious on the people.

1:35:38If you have your mobile there, they're going to approach you with some paper, map, menu or something like that. So I'm trying to, they're not going to speak English. They're just going to, going to do something like that, you know, you're not going to understand what this guy is talking about. You're going to get engaged with them and they are acting there, you know, grabbing your mobile sometimes they are they are humans uh sometimes are the guys sometimes they are two or three they do that you know in the in the station used to station one guy gonna ask you for information uh once you turn here they're gonna grab your back your bag in the other side your luggage and go away once you put your bag in the boots of the cabbie or the uber or something like that they're gonna open very quickly and take it out to it.

1:36:30So keep your stuff with you like all the time and keep the eyes on it all the time. Can you ever switch off now? Because now you're so fully ingrained into it. Like, can you ever just take a day off now? Or is it just so natural now you're always looking for it? It's kind of natural. If I stop here, if you try to grab a pint or something like that, I gonna look someone strange i gonna look like someone trying to maybe not maybe yes but for me gonna call my attentions and now i can i can't turn off i can't where does it take your paranoia then because obviously you'll get it wrong as well you're you'll judge and you'll think yep definitely but then it turns out they're not like where does it take the paranoia uh i mean i think it's kind of natural for me.

1:37:18I always did that, you know, even before I started this kind of social media, you know, I was always very attention, you know, alert of it. Not a kind of paranoid. If you go out, enjoy, you're going to enjoy, you're going to laugh, you're going to do everything, but I still, oops, this guy here, what he want or something like that. I think it's more alert. It's not kind of paranoid. Like I can enjoy it properly. I can sleep properly or this kind of stuff. Where are the worst places in the world? Is it Barcelona, Rome, Paris? Yeah, I think Italy is one of the worst places. Roma and Venice. We have like Barcelona.

1:38:08We have like Lisbon. actually the brazilian guys in the portuguese guys group there make a good job you know they smash the big bucks properly they they spray like properly painty can they kick out them not at all not at all like the police there is like more soft with the hunters than with the big box or some kind of that yeah the guys there is hard yeah there's a spanish policing like you see the polish policing like the portuguese they're all big strong yeah our police here they're all fat fucking slow they ain't chasing no one plus they have like their body armor on which weighs maybe 10 20 kilos you're never catching anyone no you know I think there's got to be and I'm not saying that about all police but I think you've got to be a fitness kind of training's shite a bleak test is shite you've got to be fit certain weight certain height strong testosterone yeah and it's a lot of them are soft but it's eh it's not good for cleaning up the streets because I think America, New York was one of the worst in the world.

1:39:13But the mayor who got in there many years ago, he changed everything. So things can change. The policies can change. Yeah. Do you think a lot of... Give more powers for... Yeah. Give more powers, give more authority for the police. No one's scared of the police. Yeah. No one's scared of the police. People are fighting back. You know, if you had a strong police officer, you're thinking, I ain't fucking going anywhere there. Let they do a job, a proper job. They are police officers. If not, we're going to be lost in a few years, you know. What are the police like in Italy and stuff? Are they more strict?

1:39:45Yeah, they are more harder. I can see that in Barcelona and Portugal and in Italy, they are harder. I mean, any country have history, have the way to manage the things, but I can see they are actually more harder. It must be hard. I don't know if some officers are videoing as well. No, you'll see a police officer just doing a random check and people are just f***ing around with them, videoing them with your badge number, blah, blah, blah. It's understandable if the police are harassing you, but sometimes the police get it right as well when they're thinking there's something suspicious here. But it must be more difficult for a police officer with so much technology now.

1:40:27Yeah. Mainly when they're feeling powerless. I can feel that they feel like powerless or there's sometimes they're not gonna get like attitude because they have like their family for feeds in the end of the month as well they're gonna protect the income or something like that it's understandable as the corporation the met the corporation the met police corporation don't protect them properly the society I'm gonna say the laws the politics don't protect them at all, they're going to think like that. They tend to think like that. See, when you get someone charged, how many times does it go to court?

1:41:11Do they ever take it through a trial or do they just plead guilty? Some people get, like, release in 24 hours. It depends how strong is the evidence. It depends how hard, how the amount they're stealing. Some people get, like, three months. Some people get, like, some aggravate stuff they get like eight months so people are going to prison oh yeah some of them going to yeah yeah we'll check their previous history and like you say how much they've stolen how they've stolen it but people are actually going to prison yeah yeah that changes things brother it's not a case of someone getting caught getting a fine so you're getting people to prison yeah that kind of fucking sets the standard of we'll do whatever it takes to get away you know if one of their friends are then getting sent to prison have you ever had anyone you've sent to prison and seen them when they get out no no no we just saw that some people that we make the seats and rest and see them like two three days against in the street again you know but yeah they can try something else 100 percent uh they choose how they're gonna manage it you know uh they have their family i have mine so once they try something else the thing's not it's gonna come back in the same proportion you know have you have to have you given what evidence at court have you had to go to court and give evidence or do they just plead guilty No, no, no, no, no, no, no, uh, from mine, uh, not, we have like, I have like some courts in the next month, but not, not yet, but I still have to come.

1:42:52Uh, or sometimes the, the cops call me, oh Diego, we arrest this guy. Do you have some evidence for them? Like I saw that you have a video for them. You have like more of it because on, on Instagram, it put like one minute, one minute and a half. Uh, sometimes the video is like half an hour. We have more evidence of them, you know? and sometimes they call me, oh Diego, we just catch them. We have some evidence for them you can bring to me or something like that. So the police are now phoning you for... Like sometimes midnight, oh, no ID caller is the police officer I know. Shit, what I did, what I did.

1:43:30Or sometimes they knock on my door and say, shit. That's the automatic feeling. We have our own doorbell and you see the place and I think fuck it automatically takes me back what have I done but sometimes it's just for fucking self distribution the patriotic politics from like the extremely right ring make a post on me on Twitter who? I don't remember his name they made a post about you? yeah and they say and my friends from Brazil start typing and they say Diego you got viral in Brazil from a Twitter I say shit what I did because Twitter you know like the ex actually the ex say shit what i did wrong and actually he was asking the opinion what do you think about this pickpock this brazilian uh anti-pick pock acting london and the people start to make like a lot of positive comments but it is positive what you're doing like pickpockets is listen it's very low crime and thanks thanks yeah thanks him the i got fired on brazil you know yeah but it's it's important because it can ruin someone's holiday and it can give people trauma for the rest of their life, you know, like some women, some children.

1:44:42And when someone are crying for you and saying it eating for you, mainly me, I can't feel, you know, I can't feel. So do you not think then the police should hire people, maybe not police officer, but below them to like do this sort of stuff, like vigilante stuff and have more of a role in society where they've got a lot more protection and laws in place to then help because there's no funding in a police force. It's the lowest numbers of all time. So obviously, if crime rates through the roof, there needs to be more protection for human beings. There needs to be something in place to go, okay, you don't need to be a police officer, but we'll give you certain perks that police officers have got to then help you and feel more secure.

1:45:23I mean, I think we already have like this professional here, right? The aren't guys that walk on the street making patroly as a security guy from the council yeah i think we already have the guys but yeah they are not to engage on it or maybe are two or three guys for our rule to uh borrow to you know something like that i think the the mayor and the police officer and the police corporation like mad police good could engage on it you know they can put people like for caring and make the people aware or something like that the london mayor gets a lot of it gets a lot of fucking shit with sadeek khan because of the the laws and certain things that he's doing wrong but i think politics does come into play like you see the laws need to be a little stricter you need to have a little more protection for human beings people just want to go on in life like it was says earlier the majority of people are good people are good humans are good you're obviously going to get a select few of her fucking idiots but this is life you know and how was it because now you've been on tv but how was all that like it was coming from like I said, getting social media attention to now being on TV.

1:46:34For me, it's everything new, you know. Since the first day, like years ago, we make like a strike, a delivery strike for better conditions of job, better fees, this kind of stuff. The BBC came to me and my friends because some of my friends badly talk Portuguese, talking English properly, like some colleagues off the street, the Arabic people, Brazilian people that work on delivery. They say, oh, the BBC want to talk with us, like we need someone that speak English. They say, nah, no way I'm going to put my face on TV or something like that. But since I started it, like for me, I gave it my first interview for Metro.

1:47:19And from there, I started to get like contact with a lot of TVs. We get like daily on the street, showing my job, this kind of stuff. I never like feel like afraid, you know, like sometimes I'm feeling not confident about my English or about some Scotland talk with me with a strong accent or something like that. But yeah, sometimes I'm feeling anxious for it, but for giving an interview, like some, it's like kind of natural, you know. Are you enjoying that? I mean, I'm really enjoying this process, you know, like I'm taking a development. to do always when I have the opportunity to talk about my job or this kind of stuff I'm doing.

1:47:59But good on you like I say you're doing amazing work you should be proud and it's good that your father's proud because no doubt we always want our fathers to well that's all we want I think as a kid as a son is your father to be proud you know and being accepting for what you are and not making the wrong mistakes you know but when you are a father you do understand that sometimes dads are very strict and we don't show much emotion because sometimes i think you can show too much love and so too much feeling i think it can make you kind of soft you know i think it's good to have a little bit of madness in you and a little strength because it makes you the world's not a it's not a soft place you know it's a difficult world to be in mainly when we are immigrants or something like that we don't speak the proper language in the culture is a little bit different, you know?

1:48:49Brother, your fucking English is better than me. I've been here for 41 years, bro. I speak to Scottish people. What the fuck did you say? I'm considering myself like pretty lucky. Always the things here running pretty well for me. I never get scummer. Like a lot of people come here, get scummed, mainly for Brazilian ones, you know, like the people take advantage of you in some way. actually for me the thing's always running pretty good so I'm pretty pretty glad and pretty thankful for the Breach Society like it bring it to me you know the opportunity to live here opportunity to work and to build my life here you know but I think that's anywhere in life it doesn't matter where you are as long as you're willing to embrace the culture you go into and willing to provide and do something for that culture you know like i think there's a lot of talk of illegal immigration which is people not having the right paperwork anywhere you can be in the world then you can be and be who you want and where you want in this world as long as you're willing to do a service like if i went to brazil i would have to embrace their culture i would embrace their flag you know like you're doing the exact same i think that's what it's all about be who you want to be go where you want but you must be willing to bring a positive to that country you're from like i'm scotland i love my Scottish people but I just think there's so much confusion you know like the people go anywhere they want but as long as they're doing something productive I think it's important yeah that's the thing I really think that I'm doing like a good thing yeah I'm feeling on that I'm helping people and I'm doing good things for the society and that's enough for me you know so the jiu-jitsu So when did you get into that?

1:50:38I always practiced like some martial arts or something like that, mainly in Brazil. Like here I was like, oh, I need to go something else. And Eddie Colby like calling me. So I came to my training, came to my central training. I stayed there since like June, something like that. And sometimes I'm addicted. I go like four times per week. Sometimes I'm a little bit busy. I go in two but always when I can I go with them but that'll keep you in good stead you know it's tough I'm a big fan mainly for my mind you would have been a big fan of Jose Aldo yeah 100 % you know I think he was nine years I think undefeated UFC he was many years then he fought Conor McGregor again I don't think Conor McGregor gets the praise that he should he was unbelievable very loose very light like double champion I think the first to be double champion to hold both belts at the same time there's been many double champions but he was the first like ufc is amazing but jiu-jitsu is one of the fucking hardest yeah but i recommend yeah i recommend like any people you know go to the jiu-jitsu have nothing for to do you don't have confidence you you are weak you are afraid go to the jiu-jitsu you're gonna solve it half of your progress but stay consistent with that because you can get in the door i've done boxing for years on and off but then when i do jiu-jitsu or some sort of Muay Thai, you get humbled very fast because you realize you can't fight.

1:52:06You know, like you've broken your ego. I wouldn't say it breaks your spirit, but it breaks the ego of realizing these old men in their 50s and 60s can throw me about. I'm 16 and a half stone. You're only like 13 years old. One girl with 15 years old who's measuring pressure you on the floor. Like it humbles you. But the thing is, is stay consistent from any sort of martial arts because it it grows an inner confidence and an inner belief that it strips back all your because the majority of men think they can fight i'm not a professional fighter by any means and i still get scared sparring that boxing i enjoy it but i still get scared and yeah it does humble you when you try a new thing out but i think any sort of martial arts would make the world a lot calmer yeah you know i think it would give you a peace of mind that you're not easily broken if you stay consistent and yeah as i told you like i never get in confront or fight with them like if i need to use jiu-jitsu it's gonna be my last option you know if i can't run away i'm gonna run away a hundred percent if i can't so now i need to fight as i told for you like when the death coming you need to fight so i'm gonna fight you've got to die in your shield yes you know you and jiu-jitsu is fucking help you with that you don't just throw someone over your shoulder and fuck off and plans for the future brother uh yeah the plans is like keep it up develop myself and make my life off this this job right now um if we get like something on tv if i don't plan anything about getting to the police or getting to politics this kind of stuff so i can see that's not one thing for me but we pretend to like to make more and more people aware, bring your content to the society and trying to bring not justice with our hand, but trying to make some justice on behalf of someone else.

1:54:03Diego, what's all your social media platforms, your TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, for people to get coming forward, maybe support you, help you with some funding or people who just want to ask you questions, how can people contact you? We are on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook and YouTube as Peek Pocket London. is Pickpocket London, not Peaky Pocket. Pickpocket London, yeah. And the people can support us, like follow us, share more content, like send messages when they say Pickpocket. Like don't fight with your boyfriend, with your girlfriend and send me pictures. Oh, this guy is a Pickpocket. Share his face.

1:54:40No, no, don't do that. Yeah, but the people can support us with your GoFund. It's possible to find the link in the views of Instagram, Facebook, in this kind of stuff. Brother, would you like to finish up on anything else? I mean, it's one way that you can explore and make something coming from there. As we have much job, I do everything almost alone. I didn't have time to engage on it yet, but yeah, it's possible to do that, create some brand. I mean, people can support us from there as well. My brother, Diego, listen, for coming on today and telling your story. I thoroughly enjoyed that. You're doing amazing work.

1:55:22You should be proud. And I look forward to seeing what you do for the future. But again, keep up the good work. Keep the streets safe. And yeah, I'd like to see what you do for the future, brother. I want you to thanks for the people that support us for the Ed Cogu or Jiu Jitsu training, the Leo, the CPO, and all the pages that share our contents with us. Perfect, brother. Listen, God bless and take care. Thank you very much. At ZocDoc, we know you care about your health. You wouldn't do that early morning cardio if you didn't. So the fact that your annual physical is overdue just shows how hard it can be to get seen by a doctor.

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