From Prison Cell to Beating the Casino for Millions – The Mikki Mase Story

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44:49then somewhere during the second year my buddy and i who was the same guy we kept going together we just kind of had a conversation we're like what happens if we buy in with an extra zero instead of buying in 20k what if we bought in 200k okay let's give it a shot we're winning we're profitable so like if we lose it's no big deal let's try it so we tried it and what happened was our cash out that week had a zero instead of winning 20k we won 200 like okay let's try it again so we go back to next week same deal buying for 200 300 or so win 200 300 or so so we kept doing that roughly halfway into that year so now we're talking about 18 months in six months after buying in for six figures i had my first million dollar win i won one and a quarter 1.25 and we looked at each other and we celebrated of course but it was like yo like we made a million bucks this week like this is cool you know sort of decided from then on out we're just buying in for a million or better and seeing what happens so then around there we started buying in for a million and when you're buying in for a million a lot of things change when you're buying in for six figures they don't really yeah you get perks but people win and lose six figures every day in vegas nobody cares but when you buy them for a million bucks or better then things change then they're rolling out red carpets then they're looking at your background then they're making deals with you then everyone's trying to shake your hand and jerk you off and like all that and uh that's when we started to really maneuver um roughly six months after that so now two years have passed in this portion and we enter the third year of the gambling and i would buy in for my average buy-in was three million i'd come with either cash or a cashier's check buy-in for three million and that's where i was it worked out to be about a million dollars a week in net profit but we didn't play every week at that point i'd buy in for three let's say i won two million we wouldn't show up for two weeks come back two weeks later i'd win seven million wouldn't show up for you know seven weeks or whatever you know whatever it is it just worked out that way um and rough so in the beginning was that planned to take breaks and not really take the piss for the red flags with the rise.

47:03So it wasn't... Okay, so a little bit. Around that 18-month mark when we started buying it for seven figures, some casinos started to act... Some started to roll up the red carpet and act like, oh, this is a big deal. You're buying in for a million bucks, like whatever. And then some of them, like two, started to act a little odd. They were giving me better perks when I was a six-figure player than a seven-figure player. And me and my buddy thought that was weird, right? They're like, why would all these other casinos be so exciting that now we're playing for millions instead of hundreds of thousands, but you two want to apply pressure and you won't give me a jet anymore?

47:44The other smart ones. Well, we come to find out, right? It's like, that's weird. So we started gravitating towards the ones that were nicer to us, not because we were nice to them, but because we found leverage. We used their niceness as weakness. You know, for my negotiating reasons, the nicer they were to me, the easier it was to manipulate and get the negotiations I wanted. When we hit the 24-month mark, entering the third and final year before I got banned, that was when we were fighting every day with casinos. That's when it started. Like, any single day, they might ask me to leave. They might—the way it happened is they also didn't know what to do.

48:27So a lot of them didn't come out and say hey your band get out now and never come back Some of them would be like we don't know what's happening. Let's try to study him We know we're gonna get rid of him, but let's just try to see if he's cheating We'll get our money back and he'll go to prison So keep me around a little bit but only in ways that were good for them, right? So it was this cat and mouse game that we started to see in the third year Throughout that third year most of them threw in the towel The last two that held out the longest was mgm grand but not the rest of the mgm properties It was MGM Grant specifically.

48:56And The Sands, which is Venetian Palazzo. It's two towers attached, owned by The Sands. So those two companies were the last ones. For the last six months, those were the only two I had. And then in the exact same day, the exact same moment, the two of them at the same time decided to ban me. And that was the end of it. Why would they two keep you going? Is that an investigation maybe to try and catch you cheating? MGM hates my guts. I hate their guts. We don't have communication. I don't have like inside info anymore over there. I did for a little while, but at the SANS, I still have inside information.

49:32This is what I know about the SANS. As a matter of fact, I did an interview with, you know Adam22? Yeah. One of my interviews with him, we brought on a staff from MGM and an old surveillance guy from the SANS. This guy, his name is Jake. So he works surveillance. Turns out it was exactly his job to watch me anytime I came on their property to figure out how I was winning and if I was cheating. Like he was the guy. He ended up quitting that job. It was like his whole life. That's what he did. He quit because he wanted to do something in Hollywood or whatever, whatever. And that's when he hit me up.

50:09He came on that interview to discuss what happened inside the surveillance booth for the third year that I gambled at Venetian and Palazzo. They would study me. They had a team of five people that would study me every time I came on property. and every time I left, they would take any cards I played with, dissect the cards, they would do anything they could to try to figure out how I was winning. So for them, I believe strongly that they thought I was getting lucky or that I was cheating. And if I was getting lucky, eventually I would lose. So to them, they were like, our bottom line won't be affected no matter how much he wins.

50:39Keep him around for a while. And I'll lose all the money I made at the other casinos, I'll lose to them. And then I think they changed their mind and they go, no, no, he's definitely cheating because he's not losing it back and he should have by now. let's find out how he's cheating and when they couldn't figure that out because I wasn't cheating that's when they gave me the boot but they did it in partnership with MGM they kicked me out together I don't know why MGM kept me that long and I believe they kept me because in the beginning they thought it was luck and then they thought for sure I was cheating and they wanted to catch me what would they have done if you were cheating?

51:09your first offense is five years in prison and I'm sure they would have sued me civilly and I would have had to give all their money back is Counting Carr cheating? is that just ground up on? It's not cheating, it's just frowned upon. So, counting cards, how many decks in LA, in the casinos in Vegas? Is it two, eight? They offer, well, technically they offer everything. The majority is either two decks or six decks. They do also offer single, they offer eight, and they offer continuous shuffle, but six deck and two deck is what's relevant. What would be easier to count? One deck? um no the problem with one deck is i think they only deal out 12 hands per shoe and in 12 hands you i mean you can get a count on 12 hands but it doesn't really uh help you figure out what's next with that such a short sample size per shoe how corrupt are these sort of casinos are they corrupt to the core or are they core to the core we're still talking obviously it was a mafia who started was it Bugsy Siegel?

52:11Bugsy Siegel and Mike Lansky. Back in the day. Is that still run by, or is it more businessmen? Yeah, yeah. It's all corporate now, for sure. Yeah. And how corrupt would you say they are? Do these casinos cheat? 100%. Everyone? Yeah, you see the thing I sent you? Mm-hmm. But it's everyone? Yeah, 100%. What was the thing with the card machine that you said not to use if the machine cuts the cards itself? I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about. There's a few things. I mean, easy is never used to continue. shuffle like just straight up like they only have that on the lowest uh lowest limit tables and there's a reason because anybody who's smart enough to like do anything would know right away it's a bad idea so they keep it there for the idiots so if you use a continuous shuffle they're the casino's calling you an idiot then they have i ever play uh and they at the end of the shoe right at the end of the dealing they put all the cards this little machine the machine goes down it shuffles pops back up dealer deals those aren't shuffle those aren't shuffle machines they're card organizers they have um like cameras they're called lasers but or they're called eyes but they're they're cameras basically that are registering every card in there and they're creating the order the cards go in and i've been saying this for all these years and then finally from the end i don't know if you follow in europe but uh the nba cheating scandal which led into the poker scandal so the poker scandal so now all these casino experts had to come out and discuss the cheating at these poker games where they acknowledged that they also own the exact same technologies that I've described for all these years and that they do have the capability of cheating and that they're card organizers, not shufflers.

53:44Was it the NBA as well? It started with, what really happened was the NBA, there's NBA players and coaches who got caught allegedly rigging games because they were betting on it secretly. When they got caught doing that, it led into an investigation that led into poker games that a lot of these NBA players were playing in. that those games were being cheated. When that came out and was proven to be true, they needed casino cheating experts. They just needed casino people to come and say, is this legit? Like, are they cheating these poker games? The casino experts came forward and said yes. So the question was, well, how do you know that they're cheating?

54:23How do you know that that device is a card organizer, not a card shuffler? And they had to say, because we have it too. What's the easiest one to win on? The easiest game to win? Yeah. Yeah. like assuming there was no cheating, like just the game itself. Technically, it would be Baccarat because you don't have to know anything. Is that 45 % win chance? Way better. It's virtually 50-50. It's not exact, but it's almost 50-50. And you don't have to know anything to play that game. You can just win, you know? What is the rules for people who don't know? So Baccarat is a game. It's a card game. Excluding all the side bets, let's talk about the main bet itself.

54:59You have an option for banker or an option for player. Banker does not mean the house. It just means red or blue, seat one, seat two, doesn't matter. So two options. Before the cards come out, you bet on either banker or player. Each side gets two cards. When you add the digits of the cards together using single digit, meaning a 19 is a nine, an 18 is an eight, you know, a 10 is a zero, using your two cards and you add them together, closest to nine wins. Your biggest win is over 11 million? My biggest single session win is$11 ,526 ,000. Tell me this, do you ever feel satisfied? Nah, you know, I wish By the way, that was the win That MGM and the Sands banned me for the final time Like that was the end of it My biggest win was the last time I played And if I had really, really known that I would have gone about it way different I did not appreciate what I just did I did not appreciate what happened I did not get to enjoy it I was pretty desensitized.

56:05And I think looking back, like, I've thought about this. Like, if I really knew, like, that was my last time, man, I would have, like... I would have enjoyed that win different, you know? Who so? I'd even enjoy it. I'd have a chance. Like, we won. I'd even win the 11.5 when they banned me. They banned me before. Like, I was winning close. I forget what I was winning. Like, 9.5 million or something like that. And they banned me. They came with security. It was this whole thing. And I told them, I was like, I got like nine and a half million in chips in the safe. Like I need to cash it out before you escort me off property.

56:46And I told them, I go, I don't want you guys around me because I'm scared one of you might rob me. And so they were just thinking, I guess, like that makes sense. They go, no problem. You have 30 minutes to cash out and get off property. And I go, fine. So what me and my best friend did instead was we took the chips and we ran down and we played as long as we could until we got caught playing more. so the table that i played at is right next to the cage it was at um at mgm grand at the mansions so the the entrance to the mansions comes through a back way to get into the high limit the cage is like halfway through but it's like kind of towards the towards the other side of high limit and there was a baccarat table right there so all i had to do is turn left and cash out my chips instead i turned right and i sat down me and ian sat down we just played as fast as we could and we only stopped playing when security came to the table and like physically removed us and i'd hit the 11 million 526 000 right there so it's like a very like aggressive not violent but you know like high stress you know what i mean like is that because you knew it was coming to an end well they had already banned me they banned me like 10 minutes prior they came up into my villa and they said we're done here get your stuff and get out of here i go all right but i gotta go cash these chips.

58:03I don't want you guys to come in. Like, I'm scared for my, it's a lot of money. I'm scared to have all you strange men with guns walking around when I have all this money. I need some privacy. Like, go ahead. So, but instead of turning to the left of the cage, I turned to the right to the table. I want a couple million more. But by then they probably noticed on camera. So they called to security, which was still waiting for me in my villa, waiting for me to return and get my stuff, you know? So they probably called in and they're like, he's at the table, get him, get him, you know? So then they come sprinting down and grab me and eat and it was like a whole thing and then they try to short me for a million dollars on the cash out you know i had to get a lawyer involved there's a whole thing so when all this was said and done i never like enjoyed i never even had a chance to like process that win and then the first thing i did was i took that money and i locked it up in this investment account i have because give you give me if you give me enough leeway i'll probably flip a coin for all the money in the world you know fuck it bro yeah i would give it up as well for a flip of a coin yeah so to protect me for myself I locked up all that money right away and when I locked it up I like you know I was like I almost like left myself like I don't even know like as if the money never touched my hands if it didn't exist like when I left LA to go to Vegas that week when I got back to LA like I personally had the same exact amount of money you know all I did was put myself through the stress put myself through this pressure deal with all this stuff yeah I made the money but I put the money in investment account that I that I never splurged like I never spent that money went straight into investments you know what i mean so when i went back to la it was as if like nothing happened and i never really got to appreciate that win are you ever happy yeah when i like riding dirt bikes i like playing paintball i like go-karting too yeah bro i was in thailand last week and uh me and my chick were driving i got a like a motorcycle we're just driving around town we found this place that has these go-karts.

59:53They have the, I forget, they have some kind of fastest go-kart with no restrictions, something, something. Anyway, bro, they were so sick, man. I had such a good time. They were so fun. So have you got to get your adrenaline kick from bungee jumping, parachuting, all that sort of shit, go-karts, fast-paced? Yeah, I find that stuff fun. I like that. Yeah, I love that stuff. That stuff always puts a smile on my face. I'm going off topic, but have you ever done ayahuasca? No. I almost did Almost Trying to get sober I almost did it And then I just went Yeah I done it in Costa Rica Yeah Yeah It was cool I was tripping balls bro You're sick as a dog For the first half I was okay Because I followed I was going in a good place My sponsors and stuff At the start Were telling me not to go Because it's a drug I thought Fuck that Because I was making A documentary So it gave me In my mind I created a free pass I'm doing it for good I'm doing it for health Yeah So I ended up fucked They kept telling me to surrender And I think I ain't fucking surrendering I'm from Scotland, we fight Like surrender for me is like waving a white flag So I had all these shamans like rubbing my heart Strong heart But I'm a control freak So I was trying to control it It never worked I ended up more fucked But it was Costa Rica Beautiful, met some amazing people It's so powerful you control that Yeah but I tried to Great experience Glad I done it, still in a great place Life is going amazing But yeah, I just think with your mind as well It's just trying to understand that Because you should be proud by the way Of what you've done, what you've overcome To what you've achieved, like it's unbelievable I don't think people say it enough to people Proud of you, you know It goes under appreciated, that's why a lot of Your videos is about your gambling Casinos and fuck all that shit It's addictions, the pain, the struggle The homelessness, the overcoming that that's where people can get inspiration.

1:01:49Gambling's for mugs. 99.9 % of people fail. Right. You know, so this is only a very small percentage who've seen a system stuck to it and beat it. The only counter I have to that is that you want to give me a pat on the back for just doing what everybody else in the world is doing. You're like, congratulations, you didn't smoke crack today. What about the Bruno Mars story I seen? You know what's crazy, man? I had, while it was happening, it happened at MGM. I was living in MGM while it happened. So all the executives that were dealing with him were dealing with me at the same time. So we'd go out together and everybody would discuss it.

1:02:23So I had said before on camera, like, yeah, like, you know, he lost 52 or 53 million and now he has to like work it off through all these shows and blah, blah, blah, blah. And nobody made a thing about it. Four years later, all of a sudden, it's like the most buzzing topic. But yeah, it was like, it was probably, I don't know, five years ago or something like that. Yeah. So is he working to pay off his debt? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's why he's like the poster child for MGM because they get all the free work out of him. What about Dana White? Did he not say he cheat? He said I cheat. Yeah. Dana said, you know, bro, Dana said not nice things about me on camera.

1:02:57Yeah, why? I don't know why. So he was on Flagrant Ace and they said, what do you think of Mickey Mace? And he goes, I don't know him. I'm thinking like Dana, we talk like every week. Like, what are you talking about? If you look right now, Dana follows me on Instagram right now to this day. Me and him have been on live stream. Me and him made videos. Me and him gambled together. Me and him, I thought, were friends. I thought we were good friends or friendly anyway. Then he says that and they go, you don't know him? And he goes, nah. And I'm like, I don't know why you would say that. Then they go, well, yeah, you got banned for winning too much or whatever they said to him.

1:03:31And he goes, he said Vegas won't ban anybody, even though he's been banned. There's videos of him being banned. He's talked about being banned on camera. So I go, what is he going on with all these lies about? Then he says, if anybody banned you in Vegas, it's because you were cheating. I go, that's weird, because you were banned from places. I'm thinking about him, right? And so after the video comes out, they send it to me. They go, this is what was said by Dana about you. They send it to me. I go, okay. So I just messaged Dana. I go, Dana, what's good, bro? Read it, never replied. And I haven't seen him since.

1:04:06But he still follows me. Maybe he's been told from the casinos to stay back. Maybe they've told them a lot of shit. Well, you know, his, so he owns the UFC. His partner's in that, the Fertitta Brothers. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's draw something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act? Oh, no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig!

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1:05:33And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. They also own Stations Casinos, which is like Red Rock and Durango, where Dana brings all the influencers and celebrities for marketing purposes to gamble there. So I'm also banned from there. And they banned me pretty bad. so there is a version there is a world that exists where his partners in the UFC who also own casinos that have banned me said we've banned Mickey he's bad for business you should stay clear of him and he's obviously going to side with his partners that own the UFC with him you know and just simply that one sentence alone would make Dana pretend that he doesn't know me yeah but it's still upsetting if someone's your friend and you think these are cool to then speak and shit a simple message look I can't be friends such and such you know putting it to bed.

1:06:34You can literally just Google Mickey May's Dana White together and you'll see all the videos of us and whatever, man. Is he a good gambler on Blackjack? Or is it all made up shit? I've never seen his casino in law statements. So I can only speak on what I think based on information I've gotten and, you know, computed myself. I think that he's a good Blackjack player. He's been banned from casinos. do I think he's up tremendous money? I guess the word tremendous is all relative. I'm going to totally make up a story right now because I have no idea if this is real. Basically, the only place he gambles is at Red Rock and Durango, which is owned by the Fertitta brothers who own the UFC.

1:07:20Dana also owns the UFC with them. Every time Dana plays there, there are a million cameras and he brings every one of his celebrity and influencer friends there to watch him gamble and gamble with him. I can imagine a world where anytime he's gambling, it's not real money because it's his business partner's casino, but what is real money is all the money of all the celebrities he brings there to gamble, and all of them will lose. So he's playing as if he's betting big to get everybody else to bet. That's smart, though. I don't know if it's a fact. I know I wasn't in any of... I'm not in those back rooms with him and the Fertittas, but I suppose there's a world where that could exist.

1:07:56I know a few guys in the UFC And the money they get is fucking terrible Yeah I wonder if they ever think of The money potentially They say they're losing And winning in casinos While they're getting paid buttons I don't know But like I say It's business is business And they've done amazing To get to the UFC Where it's at Those are worth 20 billion 15 billion now A lot Especially with the WWE Partnership or whatever Is there any other big gamblers High rollers Celebrity world there's a lot yes for sure you know gambles big is drake not not on stake that's all fake uh but in real life like he gambles big you know he does in real life um little baby gambles big there's a lot of business guys they actually gamble the biggest see when you win and you've got that cash wait what's the feeling this is my guess because i've gambled with basically every celebrity most of them don't take it serious and the the stakes that they gamble at is very high right so i think it is it's a almost like an ego trip like you know like when these like new money let's say like a rapper right goes to the club spends a hundred grand at the club popping bottles but he doesn't even drink you know has a whole section for all his homies and all the girls and all this what does he get from that nothing i think it's ego he's got this money spends the money whatever i think the casino is just another outlet for a lot of new money to spend money as part of like an ego who do you trust if you're walking out of the casino with millions who do you trust how can you trust anyone do you ever feel as if this casino can set someone up with maybe being followed and their briefcases get took off then is that does that happen or is that just in the movies it happened to me it happened to me i had four and a half million leaving the bellagio and I got set up.

1:09:42I got in a high speed pursuit down Las Vegas Boulevard and a security guard at the Venetian is who helped us. Me and Ian in a BMW. Four and a half million hundred dollar bills in the backseat. What about friends? Who can you trust when you start making money? Especially being flamboyant with it and people know you've got money. Does that become a hindrance sometimes? It's the hindrance is equivalent to anybody else who is successful and makes money. The idea that I have all this cash does not add a particular layer of danger when it comes to the people around me. I don't carry cash. I don't even carry a wallet.

1:10:19My pockets are empty. This is, I have a phone and a vape. It's the only thing I carry, right? So like when I was walking in and out of those casinos with millions, this was before I even had social media that I was doing it. I looked even more homeless back then than I do now. Nobody knew who I was. Nobody would ever assume I had millions in cash on me. it was never like that like nobody knew who i was um so the one time i got set up it was an inside casino job i not like casino executives are trying to like gun me down for enough million it was like a staff probably like a cashier or a dealer or a waitress something like that call somebody who you know look whatever but like as far as like uh like who do i trust like in my inner circle it was the same thing as anybody else who has a successful business and there wasn't like a physical danger for cash that that wasn't what was occurring i know homelessness is a big thing for you as well you do a lot for the homeless why because you've been homeless is that the simple fact probably you know um i think at first what really happened because you know las vegas is built above a city that's underground and that underground city is a homeless city Everybody in there is homeless and they make camp in the underground.

1:11:33And I think the first time I ever went was out of just like pure curiosity. I was like, there's an underground city in Las Vegas where what they call the mole people live. I got to see what this is about, you know, and I feel safe down there because I was homeless for so long. And, you know, like I just didn't feel I go. Yeah, I get it. Like, I know that's like I lived in comparable environments. So I really just went down, I think, the first time for like pure curiosity, you know. And then when I was down there, I was like, oh, this is crazy. I go, I just won$3 million like, you know, two hours ago.

1:12:08And now I'm down here with people that are living in sewage tunnels. I should probably give back a little bit. And I just did. And once I did, I just made it a thing. Once I became comfortable with the entrance of the tunnels, where the exits are, how to maneuver. There's also politics down there. There's like leaders. There's ways to, because it's their home. You know what I mean? so they have they don't want like random people coming up to where they're in their little living space you know so once I got comfortable with all that every week that I was in Vegas I'd just come bring food bring water whatever so is all the homeless getting put into these underground tunnels they're choosing to they get chased out of there sometimes by the cops why would they chase them you know I don't know because then you're thinking like if you chase them out of the tunnels the only place they've left to go is above tunnel which is gonna destroy on the streets yeah Yeah.

1:12:57How are these people treat you when you go in? Yeah, great. It's super rare that, as long as you follow their little politics, you know, it's... What is the sort of rules? There's people that linger outside the tunnels. So the first thing you want to do is you ask, hey, how many people are in each tunnel? And they'll tell you pretty outright, because they see your food or whatever, right? They go, we appreciate you bringing food. Thank you, right? They go, hey, in this tunnel, they don't want to see anybody. You just go, okay, cool. You don't want to see anybody. They're probably like smoking meth or something.

1:13:27They're all tweaked out, doing us all a favor by telling me that. You just don't go there. You know, and when you walk down, something that I do that I think is very polite is I'll kind of yell down the tunnel. I go, hey, is anybody back there? Is anybody hungry? And a lot of times they go, go away, we're not hungry. Just don't push forward, you know? Stuff like that. Yeah, who speeds them? Do they have enough food? Do they have shelter? Clothes? Do people dying under there? ODs? Yeah, yeah, they're probably, yeah. yeah they're probably dying under there um do they have like clothes and food like probably not really you know i mean some maybe i don't know but it's crazy to think the money that vegas is making it's just crazy that there's homeless i think two-thirds of the world are starving i think two-thirds don't have clean water either like it's madness of the world going off topic again but what do you think life is what do i think life is brother i have no idea I don't know I'm just trudging along I'm enjoying the enjoying it the most I can I think uh an important thing about life if I can do something now while I'm living that people will use after I die I think I've lived a successful life what was it like losing millions did you not lose eight nine million yeah of course I lost eight million in one in one sitting in one day in an afternoon losing 8 million was not as bad as losing 3 million losing 3 million means you just lost losing 8 million means that someone cheated you which means that there's a way to get it back what about the pedophile hunting stuff?

1:15:05yeah I'm super anti-pedophile call it a weird stanza I'm very anti-pedophile I think everybody should be you would think you would think. Listen to this. Did you know there's a population of people that think hunting pedophiles is bad? Yeah. Crazy. You know who's one of them? XQC. XQC's a pedophile protector. But you get people like that. There's people here having protests in the UK for like rapists who are, it's like illegal immigration. Like I don't give a fuck who you are. I think you've got to have the right documentation for whatever country you go to, but they're doing protests because there's girls getting abused.

1:15:46and people are protesting against the people who are abusing. Do you know there was two men protesting against the rapists and they get a bigger prison sentence than the actual rapist because they were protesting that they shouldn't be here unless they have the right paperwork? No way. There's over 12 ,000 people now being sent to prison for social media posts in the UK. Really? Yeah. What you post on social media could be a crime here? Punishable by prison? Mm-hmm. That's crazy. Canada, I heard a lot of crazy stories. I heard a story in Canada during the trans stuff, during COVID. Husband and wife get divorced.

1:16:25Daughter or son, I don't remember, lives with the mom. Young child, wants to become transgender. The dad says, I don't support that. He went to prison for saying, I don't support you being transgender in Canada. But this is what they want. They want to depopulize the world. They want the world being fucking crazy and thinking different. I think all that stuff's nonsense. You know what I really think? I think that these governments are looking and they go, how do we keep the idiots busy with idiocracy? They go, the busier they are with dumb stuff that doesn't ever actually make a difference, the less we're going to be distracted making real decisions for real change, whether for better or for worse change, I don't know.

1:17:03So the longer they can keep people arguing left versus right, liberal versus conservative, trans or anti-trans, and support. Obviously, why would you ever support a pedophile or a rapist? You know what I'm saying? But the idea that they're even creating that argument just lets dumb people be dumb and leave the big decisions to the big boys. Totally agree. When you look at people getting sent to wars, you have governments who fund both sides. Instead of left, right, fucking white, black Muslim, Christian, male, female Everybody's fighting against each other So if you're fighting, the people behind the curtain Pulling the string, can do what the fuck They want, they want to ask the questions Of how corrupt the world is You can go down the rabbit hole of the skies being sprayed And fucking the water being full of chemicals Everything is control So when everybody thinks they're fighting against each other They're just fucking It's just, they're in denial They're not really creating change They're just creating more madness And the people behind them can do what the fuck they want Yeah, I think that's it What do you think of government?

1:18:05I've always been anti-authority, anti-establishment Always Yeah, I think it keeps you in good stead I don't have all the answers, I'm not educated enough But I interview enough people I interview left and right and I think they're all full of shit I see good agreements On both sides But instead of fighting each other You need to ask the real questions In the UK you're paying 50 % tax the streets aren't as safe as they used to be the roads are fucked like you need to be fighting for more you know where do you go forward for the future brother what's your plans i've been doing a lot of movie and tv recently and i'm gonna keep diving deep down that path i think that's like the next chapter of my life for anybody listening or watching that's maybe struggling in life right now what advice would you have for them that's a tough one because i don't really know i i suffered from all those problems

1:19:01I can say this the word average means most so when most people do things their outcome will be average they will be average people forever unless you want to be average you have to be an outlier don't do what most people do don't do what average people do unless you'll be average most people are average if you want to be better than average or different than average you have to be different than most and you can't do what everyone else does what about the gambling thing the gambling school where people you give them money and they can't oh yeah what is that yeah so so i fund all of my fans gambling 100 so there's ever a loss i cover 100 of it and on all the wins we chop up the wins it gets a little complicated if you want i can share all the details with you okay so specifically what we do is do you know what a bookie is yeah Yeah, you're a gambling addict.

1:19:51Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So bookies give you, like, websites with credits on it and they can see you can bet, you know, 5K a week, 50K a week, 500K, whatever it is. Yeah, the mafia used to do it. Yeah, exactly. It's the best answer. Yeah. So what I do is I have thousands of active accounts. We take these accounts, we log in, we use the VPN, so the IP address always looks like your local address. So it looks like you're logging in all the time. I run all the action. I have very sharp action. You can't tell your bookie that I'm doing this. You have to act like it's you. every Tuesday comes, collection day, the bookie pays you 100%.

1:20:21You keep your share and you send me the rest. Legal, obviously. 100 % legal. We have very sharp action. Because we do a lot of things. You know, we do everything from court siding. You know what sharp action is? You know how it all works? No, not sharp action. I'll give you... Is that American? Well, definitely we use it in America, but I assume it would be everywhere. I'll just tell you. So we do a lot of things. I'll give you a couple examples. One of the simple versions is we do something called court siding. Court siding is we will literally send somebody to a game. There's a delay, right?

1:20:51Call it usually a 30 second or so delay, sometimes 120 seconds. There's a delay. We have that person live on the phone to another person that's running bots for all of our accounts. So they're watching something happen in the game. A basket score, a foul, the score before halftime, whatever. In real time, sharing it to a guy that we have in an office running all the bots. So we're placing all these bets 30 seconds before anything is updated to say that that's happened. So we're essentially betting 30 seconds into the future on those bets.

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1:23:03Team B, you bet 10 to win 100, right? We don't want to risk that money to only make a 10th. So what we do is we'll take, let's give an example. We take 100 of our accounts, right? We put$1 ,000 on each of them and we bet Team B. We know Team B is going to lose. We know it. Everybody knows it. We take that money, 100 ,000 across 100 accounts, 1 ,000 on each count, and it automatically confuses the computer, tricks the computer to say to themselves, wait a second, Team B might not definitely lose because look at all this action. 100 people just bet 100 grand was just placed that team B is going to win so the computer adjusts it then we take 200 accounts with 1000 on each and bet team A that we knew the whole time so we're changing the line there to get a better price on team A What percentage do people get if they win?

1:23:51It depends on the exact deal and the deal depends on essentially two things. One your ability to negotiate and the only leverage you have is if you know the game like if you know how this works. I didn't invent this they've been doing this for as long as sports been in their own right? So if you know the game, you can negotiate well. And the second thing is how good your account is. If you have a large account, the larger the account with the longest possible losing history is the most valuable. If a guy's down 5 million, we'll say, it's worth more to us than a guy that's down 5K because when we start winning, the guy who goes, we'll win more than 5K before we win more than 5 million, that account gets caught and it gets banned sooner, right?

1:24:27But usually we do a 10 % free rule unless we're selling equity of the account, which I don't want because I want to take. I want to take the most amount of exposure I can. We're going to win. Winning is not the hard part. Finding places to lay the winning action is. So we sell equity for up to 30 % or we do a free roll at 10%. But I would like everyone to take the free roll option. It leaves more for me. How long do these accounts stay open for? Do they ever get shut down? Of course. Because when I was doing gambling, sometimes you win more than 500 ,000 pounds to shut them down. We used to bet in cash 20 years ago.

1:24:59You could bet big 10, 20 grand. Yeah. But the laws changed. Everything changed and everything became You had an ID If you put a bet on over 5 ,000 They had to phone it through and then it was 1 ,000 So everything changed All the rules, all the regulations changed Obviously there's loopholes But how long do these accounts last? So getting the winning actions I have very sharp action My action will win, that's why I put up 100 % of the money I have no problem taking 100 % of the risk Because we win anyway The hard part is disguising the winning action What we need is the accounts to stay open as long as possible.

1:25:35The longer they're open, the longer I'm printing money. The longer we're all making money, except for the casino and the bookie. So it depends on what skin we're using. I mean, there's a variable, whether it's a live bed or how early we close the line. Sometimes they get banned or restricted in the first day. Sometimes they last a year. our main objective that we work every day the hardest on is how do we continue to disguise the action you want my i can give you like a guess i'm gonna guess i don't know like if we had to average all my accounts six months that's my that's my average guess but we're printing cash the whole six months do you have any regrets in life in life so many so many i think i have more regrets than i do whatever the opposite is good things just before we finish up what's the sort What's the worst thing you've seen in prison?

1:26:30Is there anything that sticks out in your mind? I've seen something, not that it was so crazy, not that it was so wild. I don't think it's what anyone's thinking. So I saw a guy. He was in the cell next to me. It's kind of like an older dude. They called his name for release, and he refused to leave. He had been in jail for so long, and he had nothing on the outside. At least while he was in jail, he was guaranteed shelter, food, three hots and a cut. And he refused to leave, and they had to come and physically remove him from the jail. Doesn't want to leave? He had nothing waiting for from the outside.

1:27:02He was going to no money homelessness. He was in there for so long, it's all he knew. So when they called his... I thought it was crazy. I was young. I was like 19 when I seen mine. I thought it was crazy. But yeah, he didn't want to leave. Where do you go with the tattoos now? How long have you got? I started the tattoo removal seven years ago. Honestly, I'm pretty lazy about it. I probably haven't gone back in two years. Do you feel like a different person? Do you feel different when you look at yourself? If I didn't have these tattoos, for sure. Because I've already removed a lot off my face, and I already feel better.

1:27:37I already feel. When I look in the mirror, I like more what I see. What was your first ever tattoo? I got two at the same time. I got these stupid letters across my chest, and I got a stick figure pushing a lawnmower on my pubes. What's the one with the biggest memory to it, the biggest attachment? is there anything you would never get lasered if i could snap my fingers and have no tattoos i would it's not realistic so i'm gonna keep some i i have one on my ankle it's a gucci flip-flop and it says i don't say curse words but the tattoo has curse words it says f your b around the gucci flip-flop on my ankle i like that tattoo god is well as a big part of your life yeah for sure when did that when did that sort of happen when was that sort of belief i believe I believe in a higher power.

1:28:26I believe in a creator. I don't know what the fuck that is. I believe, I've never read the Bible or the Quran. I've never, I've dipped my toe in to try and understand it. I believe in something's bigger than me, outside of me. I know this, but what about God to you? What happened? It started in jail, actually. It was a pretty crazy experience. I'll save you the boring details. I basically had a bunkie who was like a very infamous gangster and he forced me to pray. and if he wasn't such, if he wasn't so prone to violence, we're also from two different groups. You know what I'm saying? And we're in a cell together.

1:29:03So I thought kind of the best way to keep the peace for myself was to sort of just like placate him. So he would force me to pray with him every morning and every night. And then very slowly, I sort of saw things happening in my life, even though I was still locked up, that like I couldn't really explain on my own. So then I started saying like, just in case I was wrong my whole life because I was atheist like hardcore so I started saying eventually I go just in case I'm wrong and maybe there is a guy there's no loss there's not but just in case there is I was like let me make this prayer a good one so I started praying like from my heart and then like more and more I kept seeing God enter my life and then eventually I built a full conscious contact with God do you feel a presence around you this is it's gonna be such I don't know how deep you want to get into this can get pretty interesting but a few years ago I had like what I would say is uh like a problem with my relationship with God like mine and his relationship we almost had like a fight basically like a spiritual fight I feel like where I thought that I should get things that I wasn't receiving and then I was receiving things bad things that I felt that I didn't deserve and then he and I would start to battle over it and I'm still working on ways to like mend the relationship so to speak i almost refer to a higher power as like as if i had a best friend that was like watching my back and looking after me now my abro we went to the bar together i got jumped by these dudes why were you not by my side we went into this bar knowing that we'd protect each other and you let this bad thing happen to me where were you you know and he's like my bad bro i was doing something else i go that's not cool dog because you said to me that if I, you know, do this thing for you, like if I watch your back, you'll watch mine.

1:30:47I've been watching your back. Why didn't you watch mine? And then it led to like this like spiritual friction almost, you know, this like combative nature between my higher power and myself. And I'm still working on ways to like fix it. Yeah, fix it. But sometimes if you're praying or asking for anything, if you're asking God for strength, he's not going to make you strong. He's going to give you. He makes you weak. Yeah. To then fight through it and find strength. I think there's a depoy on footprints in the sand. Amazing. Yeah. When like someone, you lose your partner, you lose a family member and they says, God, I prayed for you and where were you?

1:31:24And what happens is there was two sets of footprints and then it became one. And it says, where were you in my darkest time? It says, my son, I was the one carrying you. Yeah. Like fucking powerful. I think that passage is like one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. It like sticks with me. But I'll say like, I think a lot of people justify, I think a lot of people try to justify things happening. I don't think everything happens for a reason. As a matter of fact, I think nothing happens for a reason. I think things just happen. I don't think that people say like, oh, like, it's okay you guys broke up because there'll be a better relationship down the road.

1:32:00I disagree. I go, why couldn't that have just been the better relationship? Why did I have to have that pain to have pleasure down the line? I didn't need that. God could have just provided me pleasure from the beginning. He didn't have to give me these scars. God, so to your point, like, what do you say? You said that when I pray for strength, that he'll put me in a position where I'm weak to build my strength. Why would he do that? Why? Why couldn't he just make me strong? There's questions we can ask and never get the answers either. Do you search a lot about life or do you try and live it daily to the best of your ability?

1:32:37Because my mind is, like, I can think about fucking aliens and spaceships and outer space earth is flat round my mind i can sit trying to go to sleep at night and i'm thinking what's a cow's favorite meal when i'm fucking googling mad shit like my mind is fucked but i try and ask the right questions to understand it more i don't have all the answers i genuinely don't i'm not the most educated but what i can do is have a conversation no notes no question take on a journey i believe that's my gift obviously the scottish accent i'll need to work on but we'll get there brother like you've done fucking amazing to get to 90 minutes you know but like do you ever question life itself like what the fuck is it yeah i question constantly with every question all i do is realize that i know even less and i have like more questions and more confusion i feel more lost i can't help myself but to question a lot but i try not to i try to just live um every time i question bro i just feel like overwhelmed with ignorance and like more questions do you feel as if you're an empath do you feel pain other people's pain other people's misery no no no i really i don't really tolerate other people's problems um most people are dramatic most people are pussies most people are weak and lazy and i have zero tolerance for that the la fires you're la fires very outspoken about that and i believe obviously it was a set up as well there was definitely something behind that different fires and different times all happening at the same time i don't think the fire hydrants had water either like it doesn't make sense but what's your opinion on it did you see the clip of me yeah that's why i'm asking bro so so crazy bro so my house was going to be the next house burned on fire when the fire spread to the la hills or the hollywood hills so me and my couple of my buddies were there we packed up all my belongings we had a truck like backed up ready to go basically right And so, like, everyone's looking at me like I was trying to hold out.

1:34:32Like, I don't want to, like, admit defeat. They go, Mickey, it's time to go, bro. I go, all right, before we leave, let's just drive to the other house, like the last house that's currently on fire, so I can just, like, kind of, like, say bye, right? We pull up. We pulled up. As soon as we pulled up, firefighters looked at me and two of my buddies and go, can you guys help? I go, for sure. Not that we did much. They would have done the same thing without us, just to be clear. Like, I can't pretend I actually made an impact, but we were willing to. So we, like, helped. they had me pulling um like a pulley with with chainsaws to firefighters that were on a higher deck that's what we were doing right they ended up putting that fire out when they put the fire out there was all these news cameras there there's a dude from ktla who filmed me like a year prior on some other thing he saw me out in the street and he filmed me so as soon as we were done helping the firefighters put the camera in my face he goes mickey uh say your name and what you're doing here i go i'm mickey mays and uh la's lighting the city on fire or the government's lighting LA on fire right they use that clip as the intro to every conspiracy video for a month on the news in LA about those fires yeah yeah but there's people who start calling you a conspiracy nut as well like people don't a lot more people are aware now you can speak out a lot more crazy shit and people kind of understand it but I think sometimes including myself can search too much and forget to live you know and just enjoy life that's kind of what I'm saying like so like with the fires i'm convinced for sure the government lit the city of la on fire there's no you're not i think you're an idiot to even try to tell me it was a natural i don't know coincidence man all wrong like for sure they did that right when you're gonna ask me why what when all this stuff that's when it starts like to what end am i gonna dedicate my life to understanding why they did it you know, like, I can't change it.

1:36:21I can't do anything about it. I'll never even actually be able to know if what I believe is right is right. And all it's going to do is stop me from living my life. Yes, the government lit the city of LA on fire. Why they did it, I have my guesses. But after I guess, I'm not thinking more on it. It already happened. I can't control it. Do a lot of people come forward to you for advice about addiction, drugs, gambling? mostly people just ask me for money and the second most common thing is they ask me for gambling advice but gambling advice not in the sense of helpful advice they're like such idiots what's the sauce what's the secret mission on how you win gambling you know the only thing i could really tell them is to gamble on kirgo at least thing all casinos cheap every online casino has came to me and said, Mickey, can we work out a deal?

1:37:15And they've offered me crazy money, right? We get to the final portion. I go, hey, the only thing I ask is that you allow me to take a look at anything I want. I want to audit any backend, any software, the providers. I want to audit anything I want. And if I find anything not kosher, I'm going to share it to the people. And they go, sorry, we can't do this deal anymore. Every single one, except for Kirgo. And Kirgo doesn't pay me, by the way. Kirgo came to me with open arms and they said, anything you want, we're going to use you as a way to audit our own stuff. I go, when you find something, post it, we'll watch it.

1:37:46And that's how we'll know where things are wrong. I go, amazing. And on Kiergo, this is a huge thing. People don't know this. When you gamble in Vegas, you can get comps for anything. You can ask for essentially free stuff at any turning point. They'll say no to all the important ones until you reach a certain level of gambling. the most vital one I did not have to I was a large gambler seven figure gambler their most valuable negotiation tool is what's known as a discount that's money back anytime you lose I don't know if you're familiar with that okay so when you're a big enough gambler in Vegas the main thing that the gambler wants to negotiate is what percentage of their money they get back in cash when they walk out of the door so the biggest I was ever offered was 25%.

1:38:38It was from the wind. So if I lose$4 million, they hand me a million in cash on the way out. I have a million dollar discount on my loss, right? I did the opposite. I would negotiate, when they would offer me discounts in Vegas, I would say, you know what? How about you give me a 0 % discount, but instead higher betting limits. And to them, that's like the exact opposite that big gamblers want. And they would, they thought that I was so stupid that they would just grant it to me, but it worked for me. So Kirgo if you ever lose on Kirgo 24 hours later you get money back and not enough people know that and what is this an online casino yeah Kirgo Kirgo.com K-I-R-G-O.com what's the best advice you've ever had I've had a couple great pieces of advice the first one that stood out to me just now as the best advice ever received is anybody can make money but it takes a successful man to be able to hold on to it.

1:39:37Do you ever look at people in the casinos and feel sorry for them, knowing that they're just wasting money? I don't feel sorry for them that they're wasting money. You know what, hold on, let me change my answer I think. Let me think about this.

1:40:00No. I don't feel bad for people that are losing money in the casino. I look at these people that lose money in the casino and the majority of them lose a thousand dollars two thousand dollars five thousand dollars and to them that's all the money in the world they have no idea how much money is in this world available for the taking and i remember when i would lose a thousand or two thousand it was all the money to my name and i thought it was all the money in the world then i look at where i am now i'm very excited for them when they finally make it through life and realize that one grand, two grand, five grand they thought was all the money in the world was nothing.

1:40:37And they look back and they go, whoa, those were good times. What makes a good gambler? Someone that can walk away while they're up. The second thing, which makes, that's the short answer. What makes a great gambler? Someone who can walk away while they're out. What makes an advantage gambler is somebody who does not gamble for enjoyment, but gambles based on casino weaknesses. like the Kirgo thing, for example, the money back, right? There's actually a lot of things you can do on Kirgo. So for example, if they don't force you to submit your identification to make an account, you can make as many accounts as you want.

1:41:17And so Kirgos, for example, other casinos do this as well, but I don't play on those other ones. If they don't let me look at the back, I'm just completely disinterested. So on Kirgo, you can play. they're regularly giving out like a sign on bonuses and this kind of benefit, etc. Right. So this is what this is not that I'm advising people to do this. My real advice is nobody should gamble. Definitely don't gamble. But people aren't going to listen and they don't listen. So if they're going to gamble, what they can do is make as many accounts as they want and abuse all the bonuses as much as they can.

1:41:48Right. And eventually one of them hits and it becomes profitable. That's a sign of an advantage gambler getting money back. When you play on some dumb sites, like I don't even know what they're called. anymore. Spinbet and Razor and whatever dumb, I don't know, dumb online casinos exist. Most of them are illegal, have no licensing, just total offshore nonsense, right? They're just losing money. They lose money every day. When you play on a place that gives you money back, it's so simple. That is your signs of being an advantage player, is playing on a casino's weakness. You're not playing for enjoyment.

1:42:22You're not playing for sport. You're not playing because you're having fun. You're playing because there's a weakness that you can expose where it can become profitable for you as a player. When was the last time you cried?

1:42:37I feel like it was recently, but I really can't remember. I remember I moved at the beginning of September. And I remember standing in my empty closet my last day in that house. I remember crying and talking to my grandfather who passed away. So what did he hear about? Yeah, yeah. He lived a beautiful and full life. And I remember he passed away some years ago, but I remember just a couple months ago in September, my last day in my house, standing in my closet, empty, all my clothes were packed up and gone, and crying, kind of talking to him like, look what I did. You know, I made it. You know, look at this beautiful house that I'm leaving for a better house.

1:43:18you know all his pain and all his struggle and all his fight to keep me alive and give me whatever i could to be a better person like finally paid off you know the thing i see with you brother i see a good person i see a genuine fucking soul like i see someone who is a good and i believe you can do greater help than what people actually think instead of people asking you how to gamble i think they're asking you the wrong questions i think you have the answers for other side of it for people to be better and how to make changes because it's not can you take compliments can you accept compliments I could hit you with a thank you I think from what you've understanding your story from what you've been through to what you're doing now like it's fucking unbelievable like it's it is a mad story are they going to do a movie about your film about your life yeah yeah they're working on it right now beautiful matter of fact oh I can't say anyway any Scotsman in that movie any crazy fucking Scotsman at the roulette machine full of cocaine I can you know what I can maybe do am I even kidding I might be able to throw you like a cameo in some recreate as like one of the maniacs I could probably find a spot but like I say I think it's unbelievable and I know I'm very proud of you for what you've done I know you don't need that that sort of pussy shit but like I say when I hear these stories it's amazing because people you don't understand how many people listen and watch these podcasts who are battling so many different demons and a lot of people in life are lost sometimes I talk as if I have it figured out, but I don't know as much as the next one.

1:44:50I just, I've masked a good game. I'm playing a character like we all are. I've just, this character's just making me win for the first time instead of losing. I'm more in control, but I think it's a great thing that from fucking sleeping on the streets and snowballs, what we call them here, to then making movies. You're in contact with some of the biggest names on the world, like Kevin Hart and other big names. How is that feeling when they contact? Bro, it's crazy. It was crazy, you know? I'm just some kid, you know? That's barely not homeless, how I feel about it. And all my biggest idols from growing up and all that are contacting me, begging me to hang out.

1:45:32They're begging me for my knowledge so I can teach them. And I'm like, are you guys good? Are you sure you want my help? Crazy experience, very surreal. My brother, listen for coming on today and telling your story. I thoroughly enjoyed that. I think what you're doing is amazing. I genuinely look forward to what you see for the future I believe this is the start of a great friendship I think we're definitely going to do Something together I don't know what it is but I genuinely Feel that would you like to finish up On anything else I'm definitely tired of Doing interviews where people ask me about gambling It's the same interview a hundred times I always I tell interviewers that you know I go why are you Going to ask me the same question someone else asked me So I appreciate you know I switched it up a bit I think that anybody watching this podcast is looking for inspiration emotionally, but not rationally because if they were actually...

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1:47:52ZocDoc, ready to be seen? Looking to do something with that inspiration, they wouldn't be watching his podcast, they'd just be doing it. I think people who watch podcasts, I know it's your business. that's going to piss off everyone's going to hear this because the only people that are going to hear this are the people it applies to. I think they're all lazy and weak. You're listening to us. You know, these people are listening to us talk about things instead of them doing things. I ain't got time for that. They should be doing these things. I hope that this is the last podcast any of them ever watch.

1:48:20I hope they get up and do something. Not that podcast. Keep watching, fuckers. Keep being lazy. Keep being bums. You know, keep being lazy as fuck. My brother, listen, thank you for calling on. Again, enjoy the rest of your stay in the UK. And I look forward to seeing what you do for the future. Thank you, brother. God bless, bro.