In short
Katie Salmon Kay recounts her life story from a traumatic Liverpool upbringing to glamour modeling, Love Island, and later OnlyFans—then her legal troubles and her conversion to Christianity (“Born Again”). She argues that sex work and porn/OnlyFans are driven by trauma, lead to exploitation and mental decline, and should be avoided—especially by young women and during pregnancy.
Guest background
Katie grew up on a Liverpool council estate with an alcoholic father and a violent, police-involving environment. She started drinking around age 14, partied in clubs from about 15, and later entered glamour modeling after being spotted flashing at Cheltenham Racecourses (she says she was banned from UK racecourses). She went on Love Island at 20 (second series) as part of the first LGBT couple on the show. She later joined OnlyFans about three years after Love Island, initially claiming it was “PG” and dignity-preserving, then describes moving into “hardcore” content after a relationship with a Dubai-based partner.
Key claims
Love Island was scripted/controlled and promoted hookup culture; fame brought attention but not money. OnlyFans/“porn” is “dark,” spiritually harmful, and often involves financial and emotional abuse. She credits her exit to her relationship with God.
Notable examples
flashing at Cheltenham; Love Island with Sophie (bisexual couple); OnlyFans earnings (10k in two days; up to ~40k/month); pregnancy stress and premature birth; a “break point” involving law and a toxic relationship.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOKatie's Journey Begins
1:36 to 2:15
Katie shares her initial feelings and experiences before diving into her story.
Growing Up with Trauma
2:15 to 3:20
Katie discusses her upbringing in a challenging environment shaped by her father's alcoholism.
The Impact of Alcoholism
3:20 to 4:35
Exploring the effects of her father's alcoholism on her family and her life.
Life in Liverpool and Masculinity
4:35 to 5:35
Katie reflects on growing up in Liverpool and the masculine roles she had to adopt.
“They were like in they were in like a couple of years older than me so they weren't you know they were like 16 but they were a lot older than me.”
Navigating Adolescence and Identity
5:35 to 7:21
Katie reflects on her teenage years, relationships, and her evolving identity.
“My dad is very deep, very emotional, could speak to anyone.”
Exploring Sexuality and Relationships
7:21 to 8:30
Katie discusses her early relationships and their complications with identity.
“I think that the community itself was, you know, I'd start to dress like them and I'd obviously, with all due respect, with that community as well, come a lot of drugs.”
Glamour Modeling Aspirations
8:30 to 10:25
Katie shares her motivations and experiences in glamour modeling.
“then to be honest they all went to them clubs because they'd get the girls but really they weren't you know they weren't batting that way yeah i think if you're going to gay clubs i think you're gay.”
The Incident at Cheltenham Races
11:48 to 14:01
Katie recounts the event that launched her glamour modeling career.
“I know James, they were looking at me like, it's all coming together.”
The Reality of Glamour Modeling
14:01 to 16:49
Katie discusses the pressures and motivations behind entering the modeling industry.
“honors and more trauma to just add to the other trauma.”
Love Island Experience and Aftermath
16:50 to 21:28
Katie shares her journey on Love Island, its impact on her life, and the realities behind reality TV.
“What I was experiencing was, you know, traveling to a lot of these different places with, like, companies or lad magazines.”
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Navigating Fame and Personal Growth
22:48 to 28:06
Katie reflects on her rise to fame, personal struggles, and the effects of her reality TV experience.
“But then again, you know, I think that the producers were all for that.”
Reflections on Fame and Mistakes
28:06 to 29:17
Katie reflects on her past experiences with fame, mistakes made, and the pressure to conform.
“But even then you wouldn't have listened.”
The Appeal of OnlyFans
29:17 to 30:40
Katie discusses her entry into OnlyFans and the initial appeal of financial independence.
“and I'm like, oh wow, life probably would have been so much different, but also probably would have had a bit more protection if I didn't expose myself from such a young age.”
Shifts in Content and Relationship Dynamics
30:40 to 32:47
Katie explains the evolution of her content on OnlyFans and the impact of her relationship.
“I would say about, on good months, about 40, 40 grand.”
Impact of Motherhood on Career Choices
33:33 to 36:30
Katie discusses how pregnancy influenced her decisions and perspective on her work.
“I was just doing like a lot of boy-girl stuff, so like kissing and just got a little bit more.”
Dark Realities of the Adult Industry
36:30 to 39:24
Katie describes the darker aspects of the adult industry and its effects on women.
“Or like the phone calls I'd hear about with his friends.”
Spiritual Awakening and Advocacy
39:24 to 42:01
Katie shares her journey of spiritual awakening and her desire to warn others about the industry.
“How seedy is it for people who don't know because what we'll see is these girls are on private planes driving big cars the luxury lifestyle but how seedy and dark is it for people who don't know?”
The Impact of Pornography on Society
42:01 to 43:32
Discussing the negative effects of the porn industry on women and society.
The Effects of Toxic Relationships
44:47 to 45:09
Katie shares her experience of being in a toxic relationship.
“it then you lose touch with the soul and the purpose of what this is.”
Pregnancy Challenges and Responsibilities
45:10 to 47:09
Katie discusses her difficult pregnancy and newfound responsibilities.
“I think I should have, like, the saddest thing is I really wanted to enjoy the pregnancy, but I was in such a toxic relationship that it was just like fight or flight.”
Struggles Leaving OnlyFans
47:10 to 48:28
Katie reflects on her experience trying to leave the OnlyFans industry.
Escaping Abuse and Financial Control
48:29 to 50:29
Describing the manipulations and financial control from her partner.
“sorry that's okay Before we left was definitely like the break point.”
Awakening to Spiritual Truths
50:30 to 52:49
Katie discusses her journey towards recognizing spiritual truths amidst chaos.
“It's only that forces that you actually listen to because you think they're your savior.”
Courtroom Experience and Its Trauma
52:50 to 55:45
Katie recounts her traumatic experience in court regarding her past relationship.
“But what would my life been if I never even got to meet them people, because they kept me some stability over there.”
Life After the Court Case
55:46 to 56:00
Exploring the aftermath of the court case and its lasting effects on Katie.
“speak to normal human beings on the stand I didn't realize what it was going to be and they chewed me up and spat me back out and it was horrific.”
Katie's Journey Through Trauma and Justice
56:00 to 1:04:45
Katie Salmon shares her experiences of trauma, court battles, and motherhood.
“I was labelled straight away to OnlyFans and they literally tried to put me away for four years.”
The Flaws in the Justice System and Media
1:04:45 to 1:10:03
A discussion on the failures of the justice system and media sensationalism.
“So I try and keep my eyes on God, even when all of this was going on, because I know that this is much bigger than just me and you or bigger than my own circumstances.”
Understanding the Criminal System's Impact on Women
1:10:03 to 1:11:50
Explore the challenges faced by women in the criminal justice system.
“It's the paths that we get led on, all the things that we see and experience that shapes us.”
Personal Experience with Court Sentencing
1:11:50 to 1:13:43
Katie shares her personal court experience and the emotions surrounding it.
From Darkness to Spiritual Awakening
1:13:43 to 1:17:55
Katie discusses her journey from dark experiences to finding faith.
“with jesus or god i don't really know much about the born again stuff but um so again it was you you know, just before he left.”
Parenting and Spiritual Guidance
1:17:55 to 1:19:55
Katie shares her approach to parenting and guiding her daughter spiritually.
Reflection on Regrets and Advice on Lifestyle Choices
1:19:55 to 1:24:00
Katie reflects on her past actions and advises against certain lifestyle choices.
The Power of Modesty and Family
1:24:00 to 1:25:18
Katie discusses the importance of modesty and her relationship with her father.
“How was your relationship with him at that point?”
Father Figures and Their Impact
1:25:18 to 1:26:49
Exploring how a father's presence can shape a child's choices and stability.
“So if your dad was more in tune and never really battled with his own addictions how do you think that would have helped you more positively in life by having a role model there?”
Finding Happiness in Spirituality
1:26:49 to 1:28:34
Katie shares her source of happiness and the significance of love in her life.
“I just wanted to feel like seen and valued.”
Daily Life and Transformation
1:28:34 to 1:30:41
Katie describes her daily routine and how her life has transformed post-recovery.
“I'm a member of the church and I work with them.”
Religion vs. Spirituality
1:30:41 to 1:32:44
A discussion on the differences between religion and personal spirituality.
“I honestly, I think that I don't follow religion, I follow Jesus.”
Life's Purpose and Pain
1:32:44 to 1:35:01
Katie reflects on her life's purpose and the lessons learned from pain.
“school we used to go assembly and sing all the songs like fucking kumbaya and I think we used to say a prayer before school and then after at the end of school I'm sure.”
Advice for Overcoming Struggles
1:35:01 to 1:37:16
Offering words of encouragement and insights for those facing difficulties.
“I wish I could shame my younger self, me now, because then I could show her, you know, look, this is the way, because look at who you are now.”
Taking Responsibility and New Ventures
1:38:03 to 1:39:04
Katie discusses owning her past and her new projects aimed at uplifting women.
The Spudelli Experience
1:39:04 to 1:39:53
Katie promotes her spud business, emphasizing quality and community impact.
Transcript
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1:32and boom we're on and today's guest we've got Katie Salmon Kay, how are we? I'm good, thank you first and foremost thanks for coming on the show thank you for having me fascinating story glamour model you've got Love Island OnlyFans we've got charges we've got court cases we've got community service we've got Born Again Christian for fair play and like I say it's a journey we'll take it on for people to understand you your ups and downs the things that you're doing now plans for the future but first and foremost thank you thank you how's things yeah really good busy but good yeah how are you feeling today a little bit nervous it's obviously the first podcast I've done and I think it's like opening maybe certain wounds that I haven't really spoken about so I'm just hoping that I can do it from a place of like peace and love instead of like bitterness so we'll see yeah it's difficult to when you've got sort of wounds there and we think we've kind of healed them but when you talk about it it does open them back up so whatever your reaction is is meant to be it's meant to be you know but before we get into all the madness i always like to go back to the start of my guests to get more of a bit of understanding about you where do you grow and what all began um okay so I grew up in a normal council estate house so I guess with that came a lot of trauma my dad's been an alcoholic since I can remember um and that obviously left me my mum with like quite a lot of heavy weight so it's just very like angry environment growing off a lot of resentment a lot of um a lot of pain I guess um but my parents did the best that they caught with what they knew how at that time but it definitely had some um repercussions on me for sure when did you realize your dad was an alcoholic um as far as i can remember really so when i started gaining like maybe the age of five yeah it was always a real issue in the family because obviously with alcohol comes violence and shouting and you know police and stuff like that so that was kind of just like normal for me did that affect your school life um no because in my area i mean it's pretty normal i would say so not so much but i guess i didn't think it was but it most definitely was i only kind of realized that as i got older brothers or sisters a brother yeah older older than me yeah um amazing he's like my best friend so yeah i've been really lucky to have him by my side when did you first start getting into trouble um i've never really gotten into trouble like that but i mean i definitely started drinking from a young age i would say about 14 i hung around with a lot of older people started getting noticed and noticed by a lot of older men at the age of 14 so my um my circle was a lot older than me which then obviously led to like going to park and drinking at a young age and then i was probably going to clubs from about 15.
4:34How old were these men? They were like in they were in like a couple of years older than me so they weren't you know they were like 16 but they were a lot older than me. I used to start going to like the gay clubs when I was about 15 because my brother was in the LGBT community as were all of my friends so I kind of jumped into the LGBT community from a young age as well. How was that for your brother especially growing up Liverpool? Yeah I mean it was hard again a lot of you know I had to play a lot of masculine roles trying to protect the family or me mum or me brother and looking back now I definitely you know was stepping into a lot of masculine energy but he's a lovely person it's just a lot of people in that area you know just used to do the the usual rob our sweets and bully us a little bit but nothing too traumatic.
5:27Did you that stay an alcoholic did they make any changes or did they get worse um you know like my dad like when i look back he was a really good footballer he was known for all of that he just the drank and the drinking controlled him and it changed him a lot i can't really remember him being ever like fully present he'd take us on fun days out and stuff but i definitely have more memories of like police and stuff like that he got sober after i had my little girl um so like three years ago but he relapsed after a year so yeah it's difficult man you know when you're trying to make those changes especially when it's so long you've been doing it and it's all you know yeah but we know now like the majority of people who have got addiction problems it is pain they're in it is trauma they're feeling like absolutely and it's hard you know men are like like processed to not show emotion or to be strong whereas my dad actually i have a lot of similarities to my dad I'm quite a deep person.
6:24My mum's quite hard faced. My dad is very deep, very emotional, could speak to anyone. Like I take a lot of traits from my dad. So it does break my heart to see him slowly like losing himself. Watching someone in addiction is so hard because you watch them get broken over and over again and keep running back to the same thing that broke them. But then you're kind of left there to pick up the pieces. So I think I like grew up wanting stability and safety. from men. Good luck with that. What about your dad's backstory? Again, same thing. So parents, alcoholics, you know, it's definitely hereditary in the family where we've had a lot of people in our family that have suffered with addictions.
7:10Yeah. You kind of see it does get passed down to generations. For sure. And it's trying to cut those ties in it, trying to cut those poisons from not making those mistakes for your own kids, but that is difficult. but what about relationships at that age? Were you straight by? I was confused for sure. Is that because of your brother? I think that the community itself was, you know, I'd start to dress like them and I'd obviously, with all due respect, with that community as well, come a lot of drugs. So I was like trying things from a young age and I would like, you know, I'd be really young and we'd go out to parties and it would last, days and I'd end up in hospital it was you know I was young and I definitely didn't have the mind or the body for that um but I met my first partner when I was about 17 and he was the first man and the first love of my life um but he was very much from the end the gay community and also loved the drugs and the party and stuff so that didn't work out well was he gay he wasn't gay no but um closet gay i mean don't think so but again what i will say is when you consume these type of drugs i think it completely alters your mind and it makes you do things that you wouldn't normally do um so i guess a lot of people might have thought that i think it was like that with a lot of guys back then to be honest they all went to them clubs because they'd get the girls but really they weren't you know they weren't batting that way yeah i think if you're going to gay clubs i think you're gay.
8:44I think if a woman who go, some of them have the best times there, I think it might be different, they possibly feel safer. But a man who goes to a gay club, for me, is gay. Do you think? A million percent. A man's not going to go to a gay club. Okay, there's a lot of gay clubs in Liverpool, though, that are completely, like, now taking it, like, it's not really... But there's a lot of straight clubs you can go to as well. Yeah. So as a man, you're going to go to a straight club. Because if you're going to a gay club, then there's a lot of lesbians there as well that you have more chance to picking up a bird in a straight club.
9:13So any man who makes it excuses for going to a gay club is a closet gay. That's the only way I can see it. I'm not here to disrespect anybody, but I can only speak the way I see it. There's no excuse for it. If your friends are gay and you're going for a birthday, whatever, listen, sweet. If you're going there every weekend, you're sucking dick at some point, I'm telling you, because it's not, it's not, there's no excuse. You know, I don't think it's, I think there a lot of closet gays as well yeah you know i think a lot of people struggle yeah i think the lgbt is very like drug orientated as well though especially in liverpool so there is a lot of straight people that go to these but it's all like it's where the parties are you know they're the ones that go for days it's not babe i'm straight i used to party for days do you know what i'm saying there's people who are gay straight white black whoever party you know yeah like it's yeah like i wouldn't listen we used to party there was gay people there yeah like some of my friends are gay and they always say oh he's gay because they used to have the gay dad everybody was gay a gay man but I just think if you're going down that route you can party anywhere you can go to any club so I think if you've got excuses why you go there and pretending to be straight I just don't see it as a straight man how they would enjoy it that's only coming from me and people probably say listen he's fucking gay but it's whatever well you're a man so I wouldn't know but yeah so after your first relationship what happened um we were together for a long period of three years but within that period of our relationship um I started you know wanting to be a glamour model and wanting to step I thought that it was empowering I was seeing it all over online and on the papers and I was like I want to do that and he kind of encouraged me for it he was like my biggest fan at that point um so he like let me go off and you know I travel Europe and stuff.
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11:44Make your move, order on the Sweetgreen app. We were more like best friends than it was actually a relationship. I know James, they were looking at me like, it's all coming together. but whatever he was regardless he was a good man and we had a good relationship um but obviously i was so young he was a lot older than me he was about 26 and i was about 17 so that's not a good sign either yeah i mean i've always gone for older men yeah something now that is apparent to me i'm like okay daddy issues yeah looking for that father figure that role model protection yes but then again a real man or a protector doesn't make you go and do glamour model either of course he doesn't support you like that's the worst thing is for a man's missus to be prancing around people say it's insecurity it's nothing to do with insecurity men are territorial absolutely i agree 100 percent but only got to realize that as i've got older at first it'd be like you're trying to control me but now it's actually when i hear men speak like that i'm like oh my goodness finally there's some sense you know i think that um if they're driven by lust as well they kind of see it as like a trophy because back when i did glamour modeling glamour modeling them were the girls that were kind of it because social media didn't really exist so it was a bit more like the katie price and the zoo and the page free that was at that point like the celebrities you know um so it was still kind of like applauded being on the daily star it wasn't such a ooh yeah but like I say look at how it's all changed from someone standing with their tits out to then a thousand men in a day it's we have normalized and page 3 I used to date a page 3 back in Glasgow years ago 20 years ago but I think even then they were getting cult sluts and slags absolutely and compared to how it's totally evolved now look people are planning about their tits on Instagram everyday mothers wives you know I just think people and it's not people are bad I just think we've normalized that absolutely people just gravitating towards that it's okay but it's not okay because you're losing yourself you're giving a little piece of your your soul away I think absolutely sexual exploitation comes as though it's freedom but actually it's bondage so we look at it like it's gonna you know give us freedom it's gonna make us feel amazing and have this power but it's really creating more bondage honors and more trauma to just add to the other trauma.
14:09I think any woman that steps into that industry, it's from paying or relying on money or financial. It's never, no matter what anyone says, no woman walks into this just because they truly enjoy the job. You know, it's really lies when people say that. It all stems from either trauma, pain of the past or men in some way, or because you're really truly trying to survive for finances what was it like doing the sort of glamour modeling for the first time well i actually first got like spotted because this is crazy but i flashed my chest in cheltenham race courses and yeah that was like the first big thing that kind of like happened to me it was all over the press and the royals were in like the next box so i got banned from every single race course in the uk still am to this day um that was like the first thing but But to me, obviously, at that age, I thought it was funny.
15:03And everybody else was like, oh, it was just like, you can imagine what everyone was writing about me. It was like the worst thing ever. But from what I did then, Love Island rang me and was like, we really want you on the show. So it just goes to show as well, you know, why people do such explosive, crazy things sometimes because it really is all marketing. And in this world that we live in, these absolute shenanigans of events often lead to like, big things like that led to Love Island. Yeah, it opens doors. Definitely. And that's why we're living in that day where people are pushing the boundaries and raising the bar.
15:38Because it opens doors. Yes. And sex sells. It does. No matter what it is. So instead of someone flashing their tits and someone saying, look, are you okay? Mm-hmm. We're celebrating it. Your friends are high-fiving you. Exactly. And you think, I'm getting this attention. And when you get attention, you feel as if it's empowerment, but it's fake. Because it depends what kind of attention you're putting out there. Yes. What age were you then? I was 18 when I started doing it as soon as I turned 18 I was off on that plane and I was you know going to the page free and um traveling around Europe to do the live magazines how much were you getting paid um not much page free dropped then just as I come into it it started getting closed down so it wasn't much but for a girl my age I was still doing a good a good healthy income for me anyway you know maybe like three four k a month which was for someone who's 18 and wasn't really working that was good how did you handle the money um at that age definitely just shoes and handbags let's go under that still partying yeah definitely still partying at that age i think um after love when obviously i got onto love island from that from there it's kind of downhill to be honest in terms of partying i just lost it even more so before love island were you doing a glamour model life was okay pretty balanced i'd say pretty balanced but what What I was experiencing was, you know, traveling to a lot of these different places with, like, companies or lad magazines.
17:00I'd be put in some really awkward situations. They'd tell me, like, I was going to a job where it was just page free and all lingerie. And then when I'd arrive, it would be, like, so much more uncomfortable. And I'd be, like, in rooms with just men on my own. Or they'd have keys to the rooms that I was staying in. Thankfully, I was always protected. But there was definitely, looking back now, I'm like, they weren't normal people. you know these men that were running these things and the dem I had one agency once he was really old and he was actually quite a big agent at the time and he used to um I went to his house and he made me put on my lingerie and walk out and then he measured me up with a tape measure on every angle and at the time I just thought this is pretty normal you know and now I look back I think absolutely not that is crazy and I hope and pray that nothing you know ever really did happen to any other women yeah it would have though of course predators you know what i'm saying why would you not that's preying on the vulnerable because anybody who wants to do that and no disrespect to anybody who thinks they're doing it now and they've got a clean heart where they're thinking yeah i'm doing it because i want to do it listen do what you want with your body but you can prey on these people easily i would imagine because they're getting their tits out they're getting their parts out for the money so it'd be more easily to manipulate i've interviewed people from the porn industry and they say it's it's cd as well a lot of people speak highly of and say it's a great industry i don't see it myself but i think people are in denial because they're maybe still in that industry yeah and i think a lot of people who do porn only fans they struggle to get out i don't know many people who's got out because they're so reliant on the money yes yeah love island what age did you go 18 um no i was 20 when i went on love island and it was a second series yes who won that nathan um nathan and carl won i like nathan they're lovely they're lovely everyone was lovely on that show obviously my couple was sophie so i was the first ever lgbt couple on the show um and that was something actually quite genuine at the time like she was like the nicest to me in the villa you know i got on with her the most but the experience as a whole it was scripted and very like um controlled and what sounds uh just by the producers you know they kind of make out their friends but then they go back into the room and then they come back out and they've got something to do or you'd have like normal genuine conversations with some of the cast and um they'd make you redo it just to get it back on camera so just like little things like that but I mean we'd all get like as well at this point we had a smoking area so even if you didn't smoke you'd get 20 sickies a day so I started smoking on the show it was like it actually created a lot of bad habits when I think back now it's the start of some anyway but it's your surroundings that were probably the triggers were all the bullets were kind of already probably in the chamber for you it's just certain circumstances have made you start pulling the trigger definitely so Love Island like what was the process the first show was I didn't watch it but the first show would have been massive I'd imagine I mean not as I think it's definitely gotten bigger for all the years but the first show did quite well and then I think the second series what we were on was kind of like the one like the pinnacle of it where people really you know the reality tv people started coming and then the influencers started coming in then because before that you didn't really have influencers or people that did that and then the more that the show was kicking off obviously there's a new one every season so now we've got so many influences and instagram's a big thing now yeah but i think it's dying off a bit now i see a lot of people in the media now when they've been doing the show three and four times like how many times can you do the show for yeah i don't think now people do it for love anymore i don't think they've ever done it for love i definitely wasn't doing it for love i wanted fame and i wanted attention and i think i mean really what are you prepared to do at that age you know we all want that we're all young we don't want to be in uni or leave and go to a nine-to-five job it's just unfortunately and there's nothing wrong with that but society today says that you should be embarrassed to do that so we're all chasing you know some fame or some money on some level and for me Love Island was the break I was like right okay this is the chance that I'm gonna get to like you know have my moments um but I don't feel like that really worked for me as much as you know people might think so because I gained followers and I got a bit of a name from it and press coverage for me my bank was still empty it brought me no money, it gave me a name the press would follow me, but I had no money you know, people knew me but there was nothing in the account So you went in there to find a man but found a bird?
21:39I guess so, yeah obviously the aim of the show is to couple up with a man, but yeah, I just Low energy unfocused, foggy you might be dehydrated Gatorade Zero powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body with a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration no matter where you're going. Shop now online or at retailers nationwide. Gatorade hydrates better than water. Is it in you? Symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration. Consult a healthcare professional if symptoms persist. Fall has never looked or tasted this good.
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22:58I was like, I'm bisexual. I was very, I was clever for my age. Like, this is what I kind of want to do. This is how I want to lead it. And then eventually they got me on the show and kind of did that for me when that was something I'd already spoke about at the very start. So definitely was tactics there. The producers, you know, wanted that to happen because Sophie was also bi at the time. So it was like putting two girls in there that were openly bisexual. it was gonna cause something wasn't it and how was the response uh good i guess yeah i got her definitely was supported um but then it was quite hard because she decided to leave at the time and go back to her boyfriend um and that like kind of broke me a little bit because i felt like i didn't know how it was being perceived on the outside but i felt a bit embarrassed because that was the first time i'd ever openly said like i'm really interested in girls too did you have relationships with women beforehand um yes but not romantically it was more just like you know i just do it on like after drinks and stuff like that it wasn't something that i'd like fully experience as a relationship until a bit later on more partying um yeah definitely how long you on love island for for about two three weeks and that two or three weeks changed everything definitely yeah in terms of like the name yeah it got me the attention that i wanted did you continue smoking um yes when i left the show yeah yeah smoking drinking partying crazy is there anyone because now we know the suicides the people that's been on that show and came out and took their own lives but was there anything in place for because it's okay when you gradually work through the years and build your platform but when you go into a sort of reality show and it and it boosts everything you're not used to that attention people think they've made it 99 % of people go on these shows are non-existent now and it must be difficult because you're selling yourself you're willing to do what it takes you're like you see you're going by and whatever people do was there people having sex in there oh my goodness yeah i have an evening i remember the first night i was in there i was a little bit like i actually was uncomfortable it was a lot i think that's why me and Sophie Gerald quite a bit because we were like we had to share a bed anyway so it was like at first we were like you know very friendly but it was very uncomfortable like everyone in the beds would just be completely at it no one would try and hide it everyone was very loud and I was 20 do you know I was 20 years of age and that's why I look at the show now and I think it proper promotes hookup culture and from the woman where I am today and the um this the the morals that I stand on today I would run you couldn't pay me a million pounds to go back in all stars I don't think they would ever even ask me now with everything that's happened followed but even if they did I truly wouldn't I honestly couldn't see it goes against all of my morals now because I know what it really is did they cut that out if everybody's shagging uh not do you know you know the sad thing is it's changed a lot now but at that point no they never and there was one of my friend who was 19 on there and they showed that and it ruined her life and that's the type of thing that I'm on about you know um whereas now they don't show any of that they don't show none of the smoking or any of that but we were like the guinea pigs at that time um and you know that poor girl she was 19 and they showed that on TV yeah it's the damage that it does but again listen the girls are still signing up for it of course of course but are we you know are we really consciously aware of what we're doing at that age you know we should be monitored based on our life experiences on the trauma that we've been brought up can we really handle this because as you say the years and the seasons come you've you've got that fame to a level and then the next series comes out and everyone's forgotten about you and then you're chasing that the high and that dopamine constantly and that's what really brings you depressed you used to see some of the girls on true geordie yeah and they're all getting fucked and it's on tv and at that time you're young you're stupid coming from a broken home drinking full of drugs you think it's great you're getting attention five years later ten years later when you decide to have kids and you're having to go to the nursery or the school when you're trying to make better changes you have to live with that sort of pain people will be saying listen this isn't this is going to affect you in later in life but people don't listen at that age they really do and even i didn't you know and it's kind of like we've we're in this thing now especially for women this is how i felt it's Like, well, no one can say anything about me if I'm rich.
27:28If I have all of these amazing items, then I don't care what you say about me because I'm in a big house, I've got a big car. But really, it's so much more deeper than that. But at that age, you really do think that that's all that matters, is how you look and, like, what you have rather than what you are. So what happens after Love Island? Crazy party years, you know, just getting a lot of attention, of course. And even, like, the people, the men that was in that industry at the time, like, people that I'd used to crush over. now like I was standing next to them or people that had watched on TV my whole life now I'm in parties with them so I met a lot of people that really were celebrities to me and oh my goodness had some crazy experiences really truly did but also some great experiences as well that I'll probably look back on and go that's kind of cool still to this day what bad experiences just a lot of obviously a lot of mistakes when you're you know you're intoxicated so there's just a lot of things like now if I go online I can see some horrendous photos of me and I'm like I was so young and I'm falling out of a club drunk and like my knickers are on show or just things like that I just think I wish I had more people around me that could have pointed me in different directions.
28:36But even then you wouldn't have listened. Probably not now because yeah. At that age we feel as if we know everything. We do. I'm 41 and I still feel as if I know everything so I think there's just a bit of maturity in your decision I think you can only learn from those when you go through the mistakes it's difficult to understand it then it's difficult to make better choices when you've never really made those mistakes because everything you're doing think is normal you're on tv you're in the papers that's celebrated as winning yeah well this is it but it was so far from that and i was just trying to desperately like get out of where i was from and i didn't want to be like anybody i didn't want to be like anyone in that area so it was like i really was prepared to do anything to you know be famous and to to be known and in the end i look back now and I'm like, oh wow, life probably would have been so much different, but also probably would have had a bit more protection if I didn't expose myself from such a young age.
29:27You are selling your soul. And I've done a reality show in Glasgow and that was my intentions. Get money, get fame, it will fill all the pieces. And we get slaughtered for it. It was an online show, man. But it opened so many other doors, so I'm grateful for it. But when you chase it and then you get it, you realise that's not what the answers you're chasing, you're going to find and I think that is difficult but you've got to sort of learn those mistakes and I've been blessed enough to realize yeah that's not the direction I want to go yeah but completely at 19, 20, 21 that's an age even in your middle 20s like I don't think you really make changes I say 20, 35 when people really start seeing the world a little different but did you feel used?
30:12yeah for sure i think though i was so used to that point uh being from such a young age that i was sexualized already because i'd already stepped into that role but i noticed that the press were very infatuated with like how revealing i was and that's just what kept the attention because it wasn't i didn't do long on the show you know i was just i had the most provocative outfits and i was just very like out there with everything so that's what kept the attention when did you get into only fans about three years after love island yeah what was it doing that because it must have been easy for you then doing that at the start if you're already doing that stuff beforehand yeah well this was it like it was first sold to me like only fans would message me and be like you know there's a way that you can make money and you know own all of your content and have control of your content so i was automatically i think i'd just come out of a really bad toxic narcissistic relationship as well where he really did try to control me by what a war and it made me go 10 times the opposite way so then when I broke up with him it was like I was full force like I just really wanted money he was he wasn't very nice to me and he you know was achieving things and he put me down where I was in life so I was like right I'm going full force with this now and I stepped on OnlyFans and you know I made like 10 grand in two days and I remember showing all my family and even my family were like oh my goodness because they'd never seen money like that and that was the start of it really it was hooked from the day dot because I've seen the money was there but I kept what I believed was my dignity I kept so it was just very strictly glamour for many years yeah yeah but I still know of course but at that time it was like I'm keeping my dignity you know I've done this already in page three so I'm not really doing anything else um it was just like nice photos and stuff bikinis and very different to what it is now because only fans did start off trying to be a bit more like it's not that way now it's a porn site right now but it did start off like that so you started off very pg oh very pg yeah and i was like one of the first reality people to join the platform how much were you making at the height of that at the height of it.
32:23I would say about, on good months, about 40, 40 grand. But I know that people make a lot more than that now. I know it's gotten a lot bigger. But a standard every month, it would be about 20, 25. But that was so much money to me even then, you know? It really was. When did you start doing the heavier stuff? When I got with my child's father. Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade Electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes. Fall has never looked or tasted this good.
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34:22What was the discussion to do it? The first, was that a sex scene? No it wasn't and it wasn't really a discussion to be honest it was I moved to Dubai, I ended up going to Dubai during Covid and I met him there and he was part of a big circle, a well-known circle that had some spotlight on them and it was kind of like my old manager and stuff and they were all kind of like you know imagine how much money you'd make oh my goodness you'd make you know this mountain a day and and he was like yeah come on we can do it we can be a power couple it's me and you like bonnie and clyde like it's fine no one can say nothing about us look at the lifestyle we're gonna live and i already had money then um well for that age i was financially stable you know so i moved to dubai for a few months and then it led from there camera crews green screen rooms i had producers it i took it seriously i took it I also took it as a business.
35:18Were you making more money? Yes, that was when I was hitting the highest, for sure. But it very fastly changed the way that I thought about myself, the way that I felt, and my mental health was rapidly declining. Bonnie and Clyde, Bonnie and Clyde were robbing banks together. Yeah, I know, but that's just the way, you know, the bad. He was, he was a criminal. He was all of that. so he was very much into just doing the most crazy things like he really didn't have a conscious of how like this was going to affect me or the backlash of any sort he'd just seen money signs and also took advantage of the fact that I was prepared to do anything for love as well is that what you thought it was yeah for sure how long did you do the hardcore stuff for About a year.
36:08Then what happened? I fell pregnant with my little girl. And I obviously didn't want to do it anymore. And that's when the relationship started declining. Because I didn't no longer want to do that. And you know, it just, I couldn't, I'd get up of a day and I just didn't like how I felt. I didn't like how he'd treat me. I didn't like how he'd speak to me. Or like the phone calls I'd hear about with his friends. Or what he'd say about me to the friends that I'd find on his phone. I started realizing that this was definitely, you know, erm, not what I thought it was. Because you're not bringing in the money.
36:46I didn't want to do it anymore and I was providing, it didn't work you see, so I was providing for the whole household and my lifestyle at that point was very expensive. I had like a seven bedroom house in Thailand, I moved his mum over, I moved his friend over, I paid everybody wages, I was looking after everyone. Um, yeah, so then obviously when I got pregnant, I just started to think I don't want my baby to experience these things and I'm not feeling good. I want to be mentally stable to have this child. And it was all a good decision for a short while. And then the baby came and then I was with the baby.
37:23And then it was like, okay, I'm going now. How much content were you making? um so I would still very much like see my friends like obviously I had a lot of friends in the industry who um were very were big on the channel as well so I'd team up with them a lot so it wasn't you know I was still doing a lot of things with my friends and solo it was just every now and then um he'd make a little feature or he'd like can you know we'd agree to do something a little bit more on there but I think it was just at that point I seen it as like a production business I look back now and I'm like that is so scatty and also like oh it gives me chills you know when I think about even all the girls in one big house and just one in one room the other that's what that's what OnlyFans do now we like rent with the rent a big house out everyone chips in for it and you all share content and do content and I remember when I had the baby she had a couple of difficulties she was premature and she was born with like a tumor in her face non-cancerous but it was visibly clear so that had immense impact on me as well.
38:37I had postnatal so I was very fragile at the first few months of that birth but I never decided to come off it until she was about one so for the first year I was still using the money that I had and just resharing old content I wasn't really taking new content I was using old content what sort of girls were you working with who anyone high up oh yeah yeah I was work I'd sit directly with the OnlyFans owners you know I was I was at tables with them I was about to do a podcast with them um I'd go to the top-earned meals um I would have meetings with them I was you know I was in talks with them about doing a lot more things as well like for that platform which is just crazy thank goodness I didn't.
39:24How seedy is it for people who don't know because what we'll see is these girls are on private planes driving big cars the luxury lifestyle but how seedy and dark is it for people who don't know? I think it's extremely dark and I think it's one of the darkest industries that you can get into. I think that it will attach you to a lot of things that you might not even be aware you're being attached to. It's got no benefits at all. And I think that, you know, everything about it is seedy. I remember that even one of the, that had become a female owner at the time. And I thought, this is really good, you know, like I'm going to be your body, your choice, feminism movement.
39:58We can do what we want with our body. And that's why we do it though. We think that that's, you know, what we're doing and it's the absolute opposite of what we're doing. I think it's seedy on a level as well where you just every single time you're losing a piece of you every single time how hard was it to come away from it though if it's all you've known being sexualized from 18 flashing your tits and then doing sex scenes and then trying to become a mother known I guess the penny would have dropped that how lost you were how hard was it to actually stop you know what I'll be honest the only reason and the only strength that I had to stop is because of the relationship that I found with God that it was automatically overnight the realization of that everything is spiritual in this world the way we think the way this we speak the way we act and what I was engaging in was actually tying me to a lot of spiritual things that I I weren't prepared for and also I had no protection with So when I found God and started, you know, understanding who he was and the word and diving into that, it was very apparent to how I'd ended up in this journey and what I needed to do to not gain clarification from people.
41:13Because, you know, I've already done what I've done now. People might hold me to that for the rest of my life. And that's OK, because I'm humble still in my ignorance. I don't know at all. and at the end of the day the only thing that I want to do now really is stop young girls from joining the platform to think that it's a way out or to be financially stable because I really know the repercussions of it and I know I know who runs that industry and it's darkness and it should be something that all girls and men are kept away from it will literally just spiral you down into not just um bondage in this world but spiritually satanic absolutely who runs that saying i believe he's i believe he wants women to do that it's to take us away everything that women are supposed to be like feminism has become such a movement now i was one of them but it's like i would say why do you want to just sit at home and cook you know we have more power than that we should have the right to work and as much as there's a lot of women that are full for that and it's amazing that we are entitled we should be entitled to work but we also should be entitled to stay at home and look after our children and look after our men and i think that he's using that industry to just destroy women and take away the um the gentleness of us and also what we're built for which is children because really how many women are going to step out that industry now and become mothers or you know really feel like they've fulfilled the life look at the destruction of the porn industry you know the damage it does to young men and women not just who working it but watching it does more damage and you look at the majority of videos are paedophilia it's like young school girls and incest of stepfathers and fathers mothers sisters brothers a lot of the oh i think over 80 percent of the videos that are on there is abuse and um yeah it's very low vibrational very but again when it's so in front of you and it's free and a lot of people are lost in life it's a quick fix to get that dopamine hitting people, that's why people end up addicted to it it's just to reward the brain that think they're doing something but it's the damage that does the more porn you watch the more depressed you are Well this is it and I think that you know God really did create us to be intimate together for a reason, that's secret, it's intimate Low energy, unfocused foggy, you might be dehydrated Gatorade Zero Powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body with a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors great tasting hydration no matter where you're going shop now online or at retailers nationwide gatorade hydrates better than water is it in you symptoms noted are signs of mild to moderate dehydration consult a health care professional if symptoms persist fall has never looked or tasted this good sweet greens fall harvest menu is back with seasonal favorites dressed to impress and made to be devoured.
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44:56And that's why now our men are the way they are and our women are the way they are. Like, think about it. it's a plan of his to completely depart us from everything that we were supposed to be and everything that we're meant to be together as men and women. How was your pregnancy, the nine months? Really hard, yeah. I think I should have, like, the saddest thing is I really wanted to enjoy the pregnancy, but I was in such a toxic relationship that it was just like fight or flight. It was just surviving. When did you go home? I left Thailand just before she was about to be born. I did plan to stay on Thailand for the birth.
45:37Thank goodness it didn't because I would have been obviously over there on my own. But I come back and I think she was born within about eight weeks because she was premature because I was under so much stress. And yeah, it was really hard. Do you blame yourself for that? Yeah, definitely. I just wish that I had more knowledge or more protection. You know, I didn't, I didn't, I was alone a lot and I didn't really, I always had this real fear of not wanting my daughter to experience what I experienced growing up. And that's not from what I've seen or what I experienced. I was very deep emotionally.
46:18I had a lot of intrusive thoughts from a young age. And I was very spiritual from a young age. So I didn't, I was trying, I'd constantly go back and be like, I don't want my daughter to experience these things. Like I don't want her to have trauma. I don't want her to feel this type of pain. So at the same time that was putting more stress on me and I was constantly worked up with that I wasn't going to be able to be a good mother because I was so traumatized. Were you married? No. We was engaged. What was it like holding your daughter for the first time? Amazing. Amazing. She, that love really triggered responsibility in me.
46:55And it was like a love I'd never felt. She's definitely my greatest achievement. And I think that that day in the hospital when she was born, that really did change everything. It started changing my outlook of life, of who I was and what my purpose was. you see some of these girls still doing only fans while pregnant yeah i think that's that's got to be banned that i think that's disgusting and i think that it's sexualizing something that is so beautifully given by god and how women are created to do these things it's not something to be exploited or sexualized um i think that to carry something in the womb and to be able to give life to something is magical and this is just the society we live in we sexualize everything now and the sad thing is there's women out there that will just do that because they know that it's going to make the earnings go up and that's sad really because you're explaining your own you know your own child in the womb still they're not even here and you're explaining them what was the other men and women saying when you were trying to leave only fans obviously my partner at the time didn't like that at all he you know he didn't want me to do that so he would then start going out and filming with other girls why I'd be at home with the child my child and he would tell these girls that I was okay with him doing this so then everybody was just doing whatever with him and I was at home like really suffering with my child and I just I'm not joking I lost the plot I really did I'm surprised I made it out alive that bad?
48:32yeah were you ever suicidal? sorry that's okay
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48:43Before we left was definitely like the break point. Um, obviously it's when I had, I run in with the law, but also the relationship was like the toxic, the most toxic thing I've ever experienced in my life, or at the same time as well. I just didn't know how to get out and I so desperately wanted my child to have a father that I was just putting up with the most horrific abuse. And it was so much more worse mentally than it was physically. And what were you? Just, you know, I was very aware of a lot of things that were going on. I could see it with my own eyes, but also again, like that intuitive thoughts, like I knew the truth, you know, and it was hard because my accountant, my money manager, they were all part of his people and they'd all be taking money off me every month and it wasn't going anywhere like it was it was a lot that was going on you know there was a lot a lot of things that I look back now and think wow how is that even allowed but I had no protection because I was just on my own so like my financial advisor was his person they were robbing thousands off me a month my accountant was his person it was all very much like i was trapped on every single way um but mentally he would be like you've got bipolar or you know you really need help mentally so i was just like unraveling because i just i could see so much and i was just like maybe it's me did you feel like a slave yeah yeah they're all taking from you they're all using you and people say you have your own choices you don't have yourself to blame as well i know what people be thinking as well because you chose to be in that industry and for anybody watching or listening that's what it's going to lead to is low vibrational people absolutely taking full control and completely using you and it's a prime targets of someone coming from the broken home or addicts his parents and it's not to put anybody down but it's the majority of it i've interviewed enough people to understand the sort of patterns of people's life choices by their upbringing yes and then it's more difficult to go against or listen to anybody clean because you think they're crazy.
51:00It's only that forces that you actually listen to because you think they're your savior. Yeah, yeah, exactly that. And you know, he, he got me into the relationship by pretending to be spiritual, which for me at that point was just like, cause I was so deep and I've always been very deep, but like deep on a spiritual level where I, I, you know, I was very much like, oh no, bad vibration, good vibration you know low energy good energy that I started seeing a lot within him that was triggering me and that I knew wasn't good I was so far from that even down to like being in rooms where conspiracies were literally happening in front of my face so I knew that these conspiracies were absolutely the truth because I could see it with my own eyes that then I started being like I know that I need to get out and like spiritual things would happen like I remember being in Dubai after I'd just met him, this sounds a bit crazy, but a crow came and flew on the table right opposite me and I remember recording it on my Instagram because this crow was going crazy looking at me and it was like screaming and the whole restaurant was like looking like what is going on and it was like that close to me and I knew it was a warning, I knew it was telling me like no and I didn't listen so I got a few signs like that that I was like I don't think I should be doing this.
52:15But I'm, I've always been that type of person as well that sees more than beyond the person. I want, I want to help people. I want to heal them and I want to be helpful to them. I, I love them past their pain. I've always been that person and I always will be that person. But then I had to realize that sometimes I am, I need to help myself before I help other people because if I'm that person, they can just take advantage of me or vice versa and it's just going end up in chaos yeah because like you say it's the responsibility and sometimes we are the problem absolutely I had multiple I had so many problems and at some point you know it absolutely was my decision to do these things and I am glad that I had all of them experiences because today I wouldn't be able to stand here and say actually I tried it run you know but like you say if someone pure did come into your life and say look stop doing this like you're selling yourself short it's embarrassing you're going to completely lose yourself you'd have told them to fuck off you'd have said they were controlling when someone's trying to look out for you so you've not really got that mindset of understanding who's really good or bad it's difficult to make better decisions do you know the maddest thing is um when i actually was in thailand just before i got pregnant and we met this christian couple in thailand and they were only young and they used to preach the gospel to me all the time and i'd go yous are crazy leave me alone and they knew what i was doing they knew what we were doing and this in these you know and they were like trying to baptize me and he was like no way because they were saying you're going to be changed forever and and he was like no way and I just used to adamantly have these debates with them because I was all about quantum physics then and you know I still am but I was very much so like that in the universe and stuff like that and I would have these people out on conversations and just be like didn't believe a word they'd say and then later on when I actually experienced it I think wow wow, that actually, that never came to me at that time.
54:09I don't know where I would have been, because even though it was just a little seed that was planted in me in Thailand, months after that is really truly when I actually got, it got revealed to me personally, and I got to experience it. But what would my life been if I never even got to meet them people, because they kept me some stability over there. So it's mad how like I look back and I think everything does happen for a reason. I believe everything's already laid out. I was meant to do all them things and I was meant to suffer like that and have them experiences even if they almost destroyed me because the pain has a purpose.
54:40You're doing community service now, you were charged, you were convicted, what's that story? So again it leads back to him, so he was having, I don't know how much I can legally actually say, but he was having an affair with someone, they were making a lot of sexual explicit content she would send me them um they were have they were openly having this affair online but I actually couldn't see it because I was quite hidden away from it because I was just trying to raise my child um we ended up getting back together he set a situation up where it really did blow out and obviously three years later was when he finally got into court which was just quite recently so this happened three years ago and they didn't believe my story and that court experience was probably one of the most traumatic things to this day that I've had to experience because I've never been in trouble before I've never had a run-in with the police I've never had a fight in my life so then to go there and to be criminalized the way that I was and because I'm not used to this industry I thought I could go in and share my story and you know speak to normal human beings on the stand I didn't realize what it was going to be and they chewed me up and spat me back out and it was horrific.
55:59I wasn't able to share my evidence. I wasn't able to share my story. I was labelled straight away to OnlyFans and they literally tried to put me away for four years. Yeah, that does discredit you though. Of course it does. OnlyFans or some sort of negative industry. So you lose credibility. All parties were involved in that industry though, but it was just, you know. Where's the line then of making content and actually having an affair? Because if you're making content and people are sleeping around and doing things, what's the difference? So them two were about to fly to Thailand back to my house to go and live there and leave me with the baby at home.
56:38The new business that I'd just invested the last of my savings into, they took from me and stole my products and had it all there. so he even took that from me because he told me I mentally wasn't stable to do it um so they were building that they were going back to my house in Thailand so it was much deeper than that like they were you know there was um it was vindictive things set in place ready to like hurt me and obviously I left that I left the situation that day with 14 stitches in my face I was hospitalized I was scarred but you won't read that in the papers you won't read none of that in the paper you won't read any of my sides or how badly I was injured and you it's actually such a twisted story and the sad thing is like no one that day was innocent nobody none of us are innocent so I'm not trying to play the innocent part because I most definitely wasn't innocent but nobody was but I felt as though I had to take for everyone because he's no longer here I couldn't stand up in court and you know give evidence so I had to take the blame basically for everyone's trauma response why would you care if he was leaving with another bird anyway if you knew it was sort of bad for you because at that time i was so still toxically invested into him it was like i was tied to him it was trauma bond absolutely it was i look back now and think that is so scary it was like i was under a spell i was completely different person and i would do anything for this man even though he would do the most brutal vile things I would still show up for this man and be prepared to do anything and I look back and think how like that that's scary but he was a good father to Tiger and I'll give him that you know he really was he loved her when she when she was first born because I did suffer postnatal the first few weeks it was all him so he'd do the knife feeds for me and you know I thought I was like wow you know he's the best man ever it was only it was only and about four months in when he was like I'm not doing this this is getting hard now and then that's when he left and started getting back up to his old life which was the cheating in there what you're thinking when you get charged broken completely broken it felt like everything I'd been working on for them three years and because the thing is about me I don't want to hold resentment to anyone in this situation because I know none of us were innocent and I know that it was painful and we all got hurt but also the girls in the situation it was really instigated by a man and so he hurt us both and twisted and lied to us both and tricked us both so I'm also not stupid you know I see really the biggest story I had but broken just completely broken worried about how it was going to affect my career with criminal records and angry angry at God angry at everyone that like how how can I not share my story how is like what happened to me not even being justified where's my you know where's my chance to speak it was just the whole system is so scary and so awful like i i honestly i don't know how i was going to make it out what'd you get charged with gbh with intent so that's what they could you could have got four years yeah
59:57I'm laughing because it's fucking crazy listen I went through the family courts I'm also going through the criminal courts so I understand where you're coming from where they portray one side of a story and there's so much more to it thankfully my side will come out as well so I understand how men can be but I understand how women can be as well when it's not all one-sided you know and like I say I'm dying for my side to come out because people want to believe the negative stuff about you I ain't no fucking saint never portrayed myself to be a saint but on the other hand I will kill her away from anything I've done in life I'll never shy away from it but when the media come after you and when they try and destroy when they try and tarnish you think okay you've got to put kind of put your big pants your big boy pants on to stand strong most importantly because the family court in itself is such a negative emotion to have male and female it's not just I'm not saying every man is innocent but can I assure you not every woman is innocent but what you go through with the family courts and the money and the mental damage that it does you know fighting and it's the family courts want you to throw mud I'm 41 years in this planet I've never been convicted of any domestic in my life and that doesn't mean men are not abusers behind closed doors but it's also a good indicator okay wait a minute 8 years you'll never see an ex-girlfriend ever come online and talk shit about me listen I'm a fucking idiot I'm a cheeky bastard at times but it's just when you have to defend and I've not really defended myself either to the extent because I wanted to wait because waiting is perfect as well because it shows you who people really are it shows you people's true intentions and then when the time is right okay listen release what I've got and then I don't want apologies but it's trying to keep your name when you work so hard for a reputation and to build something that's been non-stop graft and then someone tries to take it away you think like fuck me you do experience the evil in the world and it makes you question people like i didn't trust beforehand and it just makes me not trust even more now because you don't know people's true intentions and that's the scary place to be how did the media treat you well i remember being in the courtroom and like I was distraught, obviously.
1:02:15I've never been in a situation like that and I had to relive all these painful moments. And he's no longer here, so it was quite sour, you know? What happened to him, for people who don't know? He committed suicide a year ago in December in Thailand. And how did you feel after that? It's heartbroken for my daughter but also for him because I don't believe that anyone's born evil. I believe that the circumstances and the situations that we have in life can bring darkness or light into us and he had a very traumatic life growing up and he had problems with women and it's not my story to share but he had you know things that happened that he resented women for growing up and unfortunately we had to take the reap for that but I still would never wish anybody dead not even my worst enemy you know I don't want anyone to suffer or be in pain I would have helped him if he called for me I would have I would have been there and I would have helped him but I think that in some way people can move on now and that I wouldn't wish death on anyone but i also think he was struggling and living a very dark life that it could have got really scary in the end for him or for people around him again listen people taking on life you never want that you wouldn't wish it upon your worst enemy you know but yeah but like you say he's not here to tell his side but you can only say things from your side going through the court case the media the fuckers media kill people we know this and they can portray a narrative how they want to portray it and they can like it they've done it with me for years they've done it with me for years like whether you like me or not listen i'm not asked but what you can't take away is the graph that i've put into create one of the biggest independent podcasts in the world you know and do you become a threat for the hierarchies i don't know i don't want to go down this route of i'm being set up this and that but something's not right with the whole situation which i'll get into more depth hopefully in a few months but you do become a target when you become a threat and you can i can have anybody on and have a discussion and it hits millions of views not just on youtube but downloads and facebook instagram tiktok and you do become a threat yeah i will bend a break and you see a lot of people sell out and i will never sell out no matter what and it is lucrative when you're getting off for gambling deals and alcohol deals i think possibly yeah how the fuck can i be telling people not to drink and not gamble if i'm then promoting it and but you i think the majority of people can be bought the majority of people do sell out because everybody craves money money's a root of all evil really yeah and i think we do completely sell ourselves you've experienced it first hand listen i've experienced it first hand but it is an illusion yeah it doesn't exist just paper it's just numbers on a screen we've been taught like how do we know we've been taught you know by like the people higher up that this is how this is what we're supposed to do like I think the whole world is a stage and I have experienced and seen things in this life that people I wouldn't even speak about because people really would be like that is crazy but the truth sounds crazy in a world full of lies and that's the problem that we're facing we're all controlled you know there's a war against humanity and there is a much bigger fight at hand than just the next gossip or what happened here.
1:05:47So I try and keep my eyes on God, even when all of this was going on, because I know that this is much bigger than just me and you or bigger than my own circumstances. This is humanity. You know, this is a war against humans, about the way that we think, they're taking things from us, they're polluting us, you know, our food, the things we watch, the things that we consume. It's all around us. And when you like fully detach yourself from that that's truly when you really start to be like what am I here for what's my purpose who do I want to be to people do I want to help people or do I I want to distract people that's when you really start weighing up what we're here for and what the world really is how long did court last it lasted about a week it went on trial for about a week um but then I had to go back about four weeks later for obviously the sentence and I honestly believed I've been waiting for this for three years I was I could not wait for my story to finally come out and my name's gonna be cleared, you know, with everything that I had in terms of evidence.
1:06:46It was a no-brainer. It was so clear as day to everybody that it was gonna really be revealed that no one was innocent. It was just a fight and, you know, it was just something really embarrassing and quite scatty that happened three years ago. But that wasn't the case. The media twisted it to a point where they was all in the courtroom and I was crying my eyes out asking them to leave. and the judge told me that it was an open courtroom and legally they were allowed to be in there every time I left the stand and went outside the reporters would come over to me and go I'm so sorry they were women I'm so sorry lovely hope you're okay you're gonna be okay you're gonna get through this the next day they wrote a massive horrible article about me with my home address shared online and so twisted that my story wasn't even shared I don't know legally how they were even allowed to print some of the stuff they printed.
1:07:37Because really go back on the court records, that wasn't said, that was twisted and that was proven not true. So why legally are you allowed to write that? Yeah, but that's what they can do, they twist. They can do anything they want. Anything that says in court, they can twist it in such a way. And a woman's scorn is the worst one to mess with because I know from also being a woman like that from before I, you know, changed truly inside now, but they really can. If you hurt a woman, and she is prepared to go to the lowest steps to do anything. And I think in this industry, as you'll know, you've got to be careful on, they got offered money to sell these stories.
1:08:11So these people give them the press, the story in the first place and they get money for it. They take money for it. So then we're always labeled as you sell stories on yourself. That's not even possible because if they ever do an interview with someone, it says exclusive interview. If someone sold the story on you, who would really want that reputation? You know, the same as me, why would I sell that story on me? They sold it and they took some finances from it and yet that in a loan I had proof of that, that should have been enough alone and court to go look here's financial earnings that these people are making from the back of these stories but no because I was on OnlyFans and they wanted to make an example of me.
1:08:53What are you thinking when you got guilty? That I was going to jail, that I was gonna, that my daughter was gonna be without any parents and that, oh my goodness, I was just, I was just like, I'm ruined, you know. It wasn't even about, I didn't care about people's opinion, I was, all I was thinking about with my baby. I was like, what is she gonna do about her mother? I failed her, you know. I also was like quite deep for me because it was like, God, if you see all and hear all and you are all, how have you allowed this to happen? but I think that I had to be humbled even then even though I'd been humbled I had to keep getting humbled to remind me that this was not ever about the redemption or the healing that I found along the way it was because I need to see this industry and this justice system to help these women because the justice system is so screwed up the girl that I'm doing community service with she was getting battered by a boyfriend um near death she hit him over the head with something she got charged there was a girl that tried to commit suicide and she got charged for having a knife it's like these stories that I hear now that I'm brushing shoulders with these women don't get me wrong first I was a bit intimidated and I was a bit like this is quite hard for me but now I'm like these women are broken and there's actually no help for them they just want to criminalize them and it's okay but actually only like 20 % of women in that system are actually like going to the jails and stuff but majority of women that enter the criminal system can't get out of it because they keep going back because they don't know any difference so that's the sad thing when they probably and a lot of them as well comes from men it's all like you know trauma from childhood or abusive relationship I'm not saying this is all women I know I've dealt with some very toxic women and I've been one myself so I know but seeing really truly now i'm in the system what it is it's terrifying terrifying yeah but it's the same for men a lot of men who are in prison are drug addicts but they come from the broken home the abuse of relationships the abuse of parents and a lot of people don't deserve to be in prison they deserve to be rehabbed to get help because it's just the vicious cycle and sometimes when it's all you know then you're just going to repeat the same patterns yeah and like i said earlier you You know, no one's born evil.
1:11:12Not at all. We're all born completely innocent. It's the paths that we get led on, all the things that we see and experience that shapes us. So it's like, you know, how can a child have control over who their mom and dad are or the environment they're brought up in? They physically can't. They're a child. So it's okay for people to go, but you made that choice. But yeah, I didn't control what I was brought up in. And it all had repercussions. Yes, as you get older, you can mature and you can make changes. but when you're constantly looping in the same cycles it takes a lot to come in and break them cycles and really turn the opposite way thankfully i did so you're getting sentenced you get community service what are you thinking then you're not getting prison time oh no he he my barrister was like handing me my bag ready to go down he made me sweat it out to the very last like it was who's been called for really he he made me believe that i was going down my mum was in there she was crying like i was just distraught and then he um he gave me a tag for three months um 140 hours of community service and um a five-year silence in terms of like i'm not able to go go deep about the case or show anything online yeah but we can still speak about the stuff that's already yeah we're all out there isn't it yeah of course yeah but that's the thing is when they silence you and you can't that's my concern you know but silence me why because also if i spoke up about what happened and how they treated me that alone is something to to ring alarm bells to people's ear for their person um the prosecuting barrister to continue apologize to me about how i was being treated nothing was right you know a lot of people in the room were aware of it um and a lot of people you can see a person by the character of how they present themselves the fruit is revealed in a person you know and he could clearly say that I wasn't this big horrible monster they were trying to make out there was much more to the story but they just want to deal guilty not guilty they're not really bothered about the the nitty-gritty stuff are they it's just black and white and what is on that paper guilty you know you finished yeah but any story in any court case there's always so many different sides to it but of course the evidence can gravitate one way where you look guilty and if they have an inkling that you are then you're going to get found guilty 100 you know no matter what the true intentions are no matter what the story is and that's the difficult thing but listen you're over it what about the born again stuff like let's touch on this you said you were spiritual but when did you start getting involved with jesus or god i don't really know much about the born again stuff but um so again it was you you know, just before he left.
1:13:55So I, we were having a lot of paranormal experiences in the house where things like sex toys would fly across the room. And he was, you know, he was a bit in the gangster world. He was petrified. He wouldn't, you know, if we had quite a big house, it was like a couple of floors. So he wouldn't, you know, travel late at night or when it got dark on his own. He'd want me to go with him. There was just an airy feeling, constantly like a dark presence around us that I could feel and, you know, see sometimes. And I just kept getting this profound voice over and over in my head, which is why I thought I started losing genuinely the plot, because it was like, Jesus, Jesus, follow me, Jesus.
1:14:33And I was like, what is this? And because I dived very deep into plant medicines, I actually thought that I was going through spiritual psychosis. I would wake up covered black and blue in bruises, hand marks on me that I had no idea where they were coming from. I started losing all the back of my hair but at this point because I was so clinically depressed with the baby I just thought you know it's because I'm so run down you know I'm obviously not well I was six stone there was a lot to play might have been like a blood infection so I'd go to I went to the doctors and they were like yeah it doesn't sound right so they would send me in CT scans and they wanted to rule out cancer because all of the signs were there you know everything come back completely normal and um they were like don't know what it is there's nothing there's nothing there but they could see the evidence on my body of that I wasn't okay you know and I was getting a lot of suicidal intrusive thoughts and for the first time in my life I obviously had my child but I was like if you're real God you need to come and help me because if you don't I can't be here anymore like I can't do this like I just was at the end I I honestly I didn't want to ruin her life by having a mother like me that was suffering so much so I was like god if you are real you really need to help me I cried out for him and I I had this dream this amazing dream that I woke up and I was like I need to I need I need help and there was a knock on my door and it was the same guy who's actually my partner now from eight years before who got me into plant medicines but also told me to buy the bible the same bible that I read to this day and um he was like I felt like I needed to come and see you as I've been okay and I was like I'm gonna sound so crazy but like Jesus and he was like oh my goodness came in he said some prayers over me and was like let me take you to this church and I was like oh no I'm not walking into a church and he was like it's not a normal church just trust me and come with me so I walked into this church and um normal building not like a religious building or anything and the it was like he knew me the pastor straight away everything that he preached was my life was my story and I was just like help me I just started crying out I was like help me like I don't know what's happening to me like I need to be baptized I just felt this really intrusive thought to be baptized and that first day I ever walked into the church I got baptized which is not normal um but after I come out the baptism time it was like pain it was like something was trying to pull me under that was actually causing me severe pain something was trying to pull me off and it was like a war spiritually and when I left that day I was like I I need to find Jesus like I need to know more about him like what is he you know who is he like I've only ever been taught Jesus when I was younger and I'd be like oh whatever you know religion go away I'm not I'm not I'm about the universe I'm about energy but then I started relaying all my life and how actually he was been planting seeds in me the whole time and I was like I've got nothing to lose I need to look into this a bit more and honestly James the more that I learn about him the more that I read about him there's absolutely no denial in my brain that he is not real and that he has been everything I've been looking for my whole life he is the love and the peace and the creator of humanity they're like he is really the way the truth and the life and he saved me and he's continually like working on me still to this day but I just I've been changed radically and I hope now to be that change for my daughter and that she will never grow up in something different to what I was because I finally found what I was looking for which was God do you worry that she potentially could be like you when you're younger years does that worry you I think that I am so so blessed that she hasn't got to see what I got to say because I've protected her and this is why I start to look at now okay you know if all them things didn't happen that relationship she would have seen a broken home and she would have got to experience the things that I did when I was younger but she doesn't know any different she just knows me and you know she comes to church with me all the time now she knows who Jesus is she prays by herself it's actually quite cute and fascinating how much they absorb her and I just know that she's gonna know I mean I can't protect her from the world as you know we can't protect our children from it but I can show her where to look before the world tells her where to look so keep your eyes up on God rather than the world and I know and believe that she's gonna learn from my life and I'll be so open with my daughter and I hope to you know share all experiences with her but I think she's gonna be okay because now I'm actually covered and now you know I think there's many different spiritual routes to take it's all true it all exists 100 % that's proven you know but I think that there's a point in life where we have to like question what what we're and I'm just too deep I'm like why am I here what is this you know and what are we doing like what is this purpose so if I'm that open with her about all my experiences and what ways not to go and what ways to go then that's between her and God she's her own person she's got to figure that out for itself but as a mother it's my job to protect and to pray over us and to make sure that our mind is protected from the doctrinations of the world from the corruption from the you know the the elites like there's so much that i am as a mother i still need to protect us with which is what i'm doing trying my best anyway what about the bruises where were the bruises all over my body head to door i interviewed a woman i don't want to scare you charlotte and she was a drug amazing girl from Essex changed her life she's over one years clean now but she used to have a man come up to the house and give her drugs he never wanted anything else but she used to wake up covered in bruises and then she found out that she was being drugged and other people were coming up and abusing her wow I would say that of course I didn't I mean I don't think he would do that but then again I would say he was pretty capable of doing all things but what I will say is it left straight after baptism so it didn't really you know it instantly went to the point that it was like I also posted pictures of all this on Instagram like I was covered in scabs as well like it was like my body was like it was in my nervous system was truly in fight or flight it was like head to toe psoriasis eczema bruises it James I haven't suffered with any of it in three years it's I've it's completely left my life that in itself is the one thing that's kept me going with this journey because you know I've always been spiritual I've seen plant medicines I've seen some fascinating enlightened stuff you know and when we experience these things we can go whoa okay there's much more than just us out there there's something bigger and greater than us but then I realized that everything is really truly spiritual and that I think that by the things I was doing, I was opening doors and giving these things agreement to me, to access to me, that once I went and was born again, under water and baptism, I was reborn and nothing, and then like, I now belong to Jesus and nothing can come near me now.
1:22:24What's your biggest regret? My biggest regret? Probably. My biggest regret is probably sexually exposing myself from a young age because that led on to all of this. So I wish that I kind of just got a normal job like everybody else and wasn't really chasing them things because chasing the fame made me prepared to do anything for fame which led me into sexually exploiting myself. Hindsight's always a wonderful thing and if you're working that 95 and still seeing people glamorize that lifestyle it doesn't matter they've always gravitated towards something wanting more wanting that more money wanting that more attention but for those girls who are maybe thinking about doing only fans are doing porn what advice would you have for them i would say that not everything in this world is about money and even if you think that right now it might give you short time happiness which it will because the finances will be there it will bring you long-term bondage and it will break you down and take pieces of you every single day until you look in the mirror and don't realize who you are anymore you become an object you're no longer a human you're an object and I think that now we have these influences as such on these platforms that glamorize it even more so now it isn't just pictures now it's doing 100 men in a day how much prepared as a society are we prepared to go to literally remove women from our birth given right what we're supposed to be which is nothing of the sort which is why i've stepped into a journey of like modesty you know i want them to know that it's beautiful to look after your children and to stay at home and provide it's beautiful to cover up it's not actually about the body it's about the heart and stop chasing things in this world that are going to fulfill you for a short time and make you lose eternity literally How was it when your dad decided to start trying to make changes?
1:24:29How was your relationship with him at that point? I'm close to my dad, I'm definitely a daddy's girl like I love him to pieces and he's a good man he's just, you know, he just suffers with his own stuff but he's never really, we never really, we don't have a relationship like that you know, we're not like deep, we'd never go into deep combos like that it's just kind of, he comes to me more as like spiritually like literally i guide him and all my family they all come to me for wisdom or advice and because i'm quite positive i never look i never like to look at the negative so i'll always lift them up i'll always lift them up and i'll always you know i'll pray for them and stuff like that so i think they find comfort in that but i think that if he doesn't get a hold of that soon he's definitely gonna lose his life.
1:25:19So if your dad was more in tune and never really battled with his own addictions how do you think that would have helped you more positively in life by having a role model there? Because I think it's important for fathers to always be there no matter what. But at a rate now divorce is through the roof. We get it. But coming from the broken home it's not good for any kid no matter who you are. I'm present but it's still difficult to be distant as well and not there 24-7 because you're being you're being raised by different parents and then different step parents and it must be confusing confusing confusing you know but how do you think things would be if your dad was more present and never had addictions do you think you'd have made those sort of choices no because i think that you know he would have told me right he would have been like you're not doing that as my daughter or he if he wasn't trying to survive then he would have been able to like look out for me a bit more and probably try to protect me I think you know if your father holds the door open for you and opens the door and stuff like that you become used to that so then you look for that in other men but when you're used to someone just turning to the bottle shouting you kind of like you think that's normal it normalizes it to you so I'd never like to hold it to him I'm not saying that that is the reason you know why my life turned out the way that it did, or I went through the things that I did.
1:26:41I don't blame him for that, but I think that I would have had a bit more better direction and stability. I wouldn't have been seeking to be protected because that's all I was really looking for was to feel seen. I just wanted to feel like seen and valued. When are you yet your happiest? When I'm in the presence of God and I feel that overwhelming peace and love that take away everything from this world. It all boils down to the love, how much love are you carrying? And I think for me to be able to still have so much love to give to people after everything I've been through is true explanation of itself that that's not me, it's God.
1:27:23That that's what it is. That's the transformation that it's done in me. Do you question why you're still here? yeah I think that it's um I think that I look back now and there was times when I'm like how did I make it through that I literally was so close to Gowan and it's because he has a plan for me you know um the thing is about me and my very open book and I tend to overshare with everyone so if I can overshare with all of these turbulent things in my life and all these things that have nearly broken me then at least people then start to feel heard because if I've suffered with feeling unvalidated or you know um being misunderstood how better yet with my openness to now share everything to let even if some people are going to hate on it because they will it's embarrassing for me to still go back and admit these things and relive them.
1:28:25But hopefully then there's women there that go, oh, wow, I feel like that. Maybe I now know where to go or where to look instead of the world, you know? What's your daily routine like now? I'm a member of the church and I work with them. I do a lot of things. I go to the gym. I love working out. so I tend to like I think that is so important for me like if I didn't have that that also transformed me physically but mentally more than anything um so the gym church and work my daughter it's literally like just my life now that's like but I'm happy with that James I have peace you know even like going back to a normal job it's been so nice and humbling because I say normal because for 10 years it's all I've known is social media so now to like do these things these like normal activities I love it I love being around people I love speaking to people I'm very like that um it's humbling now but it's actually it's got peace and being a part of the ministry in the church like I'm there three times a week like I'm part of the ministries now where I can help people heal and share my stories like if that's what needed to happen in order for me to go through all that then at least I can help other people who are going through the same thing as I was.
1:29:51How do you protect your daughter from obviously your life from your past when she gets a little older and understands it a bit more? I think that because she will know that everyone is human and everyone makes mistakes and that we shouldn't judge somebody at all like we're not called to judge one another we're called to you know hold each other's hands and lead each other home I don't judge people so she will be brought up knowing not to judge or at least try you know or not have these opinions on people so I think you know she's gonna have a different mindset to a lot of kids anyway will it affect her I hope and pray that it won't but I'll be open with her and I will try and as best as I can to be real and raw with her so that she actually knows the precautions that life had but I will try and shield her from a lot of the information about her father.
1:30:40So the religion you think was a big turning point? I honestly, I think that I don't follow religion, I follow Jesus. I think that religion is based on control and rules and regulations. Jesus actually came and dismissed all of that. He, he, the problem he had the most was with religious leaders. So because when we're brought up in a world of just healing, because remember the system tricks us and they like to control us. So they use a lot and twist the narratives and twist the truth to make it a control mechanism to control us. But really when you go and find it for yourself, you realize it's actually quite the opposite.
1:31:16So I think that like, I don't follow religion. I follow Jesus and I follow his teachings. Um, my, my. So what is the difference then? Because I think was Jesus, he's in the Quran, he's in the Bible. I think he's in all the Abrahamic religions. All religions point to Jesus and acknowledge that Jesus existed and that was real. But obviously, you know, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth and the life. I think the humanity, humans have created religion, of course. But really, it's spirituality. But obviously, a lot more people are awoke to this now, aren't they? And they're like, okay, we know the world's a bit more spiritual.
1:31:51But I think that you just have to be careful with counterfeits because a lot of these things are true. But you have to be careful the rabbit holes you're going down. But I think at the bottom of every single rabbit hole, Yahweh is at the bottom of it. And it's written in the DNA. and it's okay to look at things on paper and see the evidence there but then when you truly live and walk with them the transformation that's happened in me I can't deny you know, I can't deny and I just hope and pray that people see that before anything that people can see it in me So you're going three times a week?
1:32:24Are you singing the hymns in that? Well, we don't do none of that I do not do it We sing all the shit No, we have music and it's lovely upbeat music and everyone's dancing and it's joyful it's a beautiful you know. Yes you're not a proper bible basher then like um so I don't I don't I'm not religious myself I was raised Catholic my name's James Joseph Francis Inglisley I was baptized christened Catholic school we used to go assembly and sing all the songs like fucking kumbaya and I think we used to say a prayer before school and then after at the end of school I'm sure. I wish we had that now still because they took prayer out of school now.
1:33:00It's all away but so like I don't know what the difference is. i think the difference is religion says follow these rules or you're not going to be okay and tries to control you where jesus says come to me as you are and i will clean you up so we don't go in the shower you know we go in the shower because we're dirty and we go to get clean that's exactly what happens when you walk with jesus we go we come as we are he tells us to come as we are and still to this day he's still working on me it's just not one overnight thing religion you go in there you know you're feeling you confess your sins to whoever you know and you also idolize these priests and stuff like that like yeah no fuck all them non-seas man like this is the problem that's satanic like not everybody priest is bad but you do see a lot of them on the media and the the money the christ the money the churches have paid out to cover up the pedophilia is scary but they use that for a reason to also distract the people from the living truth and the bread of life which is him it's like hollywood let's look at hollywood they are the center stage of people it's very apparent there's only two people that are worshipped and that's the god of this world or the god of the heavens and earth and they make that very apparent you know the god of this world is i believe again is run by darkness and the whole matrix is escaping that and believe in the true identity that we belong to christ and that we follow christ and find our way home this where there's a trap and it's a matrix that's trying to get us to follow satan and darkness to take us away from god to distract us so much and pull us so far away from the truth that we're not we no longer know where we come from or why we're here what is life to you life to me now is about saving souls because if i can experience that amount of pain imagine what other people are experiencing people that you know don't know a way out I think that all I am now my life to me is a vessel a vessel to spread love and light and hope and I hope that I can do that by sharing my journey even if people might not understand it I'm here to be a vessel for hope and love because otherwise what was the point of all that pain my pain has a purpose did you ever think you would have got this far not at all no do you think you've been talking about jesus no no i was so far away from that i honestly would be like if i could see now but it makes me emotional as well because i also wish that i could show my younger self me now because that was everything i was always trying to be you know like holding that peace and the feminism and stuff was everything that's come along the way back then i thought like i was quite masculine and i was quite you know always half naked i always had I've always been a good person, I had good intentions, but it's always been twisted and manipulated by things I was participating in or saying and doing.
1:35:58I wish I could shame my younger self, me now, because then I could show her, you know, look, this is the way, because look at who you are now. I'm not saying I never struggle still, because of course I do. I think that we're always going to be, but I know who to look to now. I know that I'm, you know, it's only by God's grace alone that I'm still here. yeah whatever you're doing is working you look great you're vibrant you're doing well you're speaking clear and you overcome your struggles which is most important you know and no matter what you go through in life if people can start learning from the mistakes it's only a good starter of where you can actually go and what you can achieve because if you keep repeating the same cycles the bottom line is nothing's going to change yeah and in humanity you know if we can look at other people and try and correct them or say well they need to do this how about we look inwards and start working on ourself first that's really them and we'll start seeing a difference so as much as I can speak about OnlyFans and everything else I'm not you know I'm not saying that like this is I am saying it's wrong but I'm also saying it with understanding like we are all lost and I know that do you know what I mean I'm not saying I'm perfect I'm not saying I know it I'm humble in my ignorance but at the same time it's like we all need to really go inwards and start pointing the finger at other people or what they did and look inwards and start changing ourselves because that's when then we can really be a true difference in the world especially to our children for anybody watching this and a life who's struggle right now what advice would you have for them the i would say that you're you are loved beyond measures and that you were created for a special purpose and that he's calling us all we all belong to him we all belong to god we all belong to christ and he's calling us all and in them moments when you feel like there is no hope he is all things and he's waiting for you how are you feeling today i feel good now i've had that chat i feel like it's been a bit of therapy i've been waiting for two years for therapy but listen you're doing amazing again thanks for coming on today what's your social media links for maybe people to reach out and people maybe ask questions you've lived that life you've overcome it listen you're still doing community service but who gives a fuck like is you're owning your madness which is important for anybody you've got to own up you can't point fingers we can't blame yes other people come into your life and we can sort of gravitate and do bad with them but you've got to take full responsibility sometimes of your own actions but for anybody that's maybe want to reach out ask questions how can they get into contact with you my instagram is it's Katie Salmon but most importantly I've just started a faith company for women so anyone that wants to grow mentally spiritually and physically then follow House of Faith Crow because that's going to be a new project that I'm working on and I'm hoping to uplift and help a lot of women for all this so yeah what about the spud business you've been promoting Spidelli yeah give them a okay Spidelli it's it's on the Wirral we we plan to expand it but if you want the most tastiest spuds like honestly he's the best chef in the world and i'm not just saying that he really is amazing so yeah spidelli follow us on instagram we make the best spuds those fucking spuds are massive now man you see people on tiktok thousands of people are watching their lives with jack of potatoes and cheese like see but ours are that you know ours are like slow cook so all our stuff is like slow cooked so beef brisket we're trying to put nutrition back into our hometown where we live and feed people good meals that aren't going to break the bank and it's better than taking your kids to mcdonald's we want to give them nutrition we want to give them you know good meals for good prices and add to the community that's what that's what we're there for really we hope to expand but it's been crazy james i didn't know how many people love jack of potatoes yeah neither did i man but they are nice when you actually get one i got one when i was in gretna i think it was gretna now it's like they got cheaper clothes you can get there but they have their little spud van I got my tuna and cheese and I thought yeah it's no wonder they're popular but listen Katie thanks for coming on today you're doing amazing I wish you nothing but the best for the future and anything I can help with you know I'm only a phone call away thank you for having me thank you and God bless God bless
From the publisher
Anything Goes with James English Ep 545
Love Island - Only Fans - Prison - Broken to Born Again, Katie Salmon Tells Her Story
From the spotlight of Love Island to a completely transformed life… this week’s guest is Katie Salmon.
Katie opens up about her journey from fame and the pressures that came with it, to her time on OnlyFans, facing serious legal challenges, and ultimately hitting a turning point that changed everything.
In this powerful and honest conversation, she shares how finding faith in Christ helped her step away from her past, rebuild her life, and make choices aligned with purpose, healing, and truth.
This is a story about redemption, growth, and the reality that no one is ever too far gone to change their path.
✨ Topics we cover:
* Life after Love Island
* The reality behind OnlyFans
* Facing consequences and accountability
* Finding faith and purpose in Christ
* Leaving the past behind and moving forward
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