Ocean Beach & Prison - Wayne Lineker Opens Up About His Life

36:32so they raided my house a big place I lived in the UK at that time a big place in Essex and I had separate offices at the side where my PA works and a girl that worked for us blah blah blah they just seized everything, took everything and they went through every single thing and they found 80 grand's worth of tax but yeah, that is what it is you know, I should have got a slap on the wrist and told you, you've got to pay this. That's it. But because I was Gary's brother, they put me away. And then we took it to the court with Peel,

37:10which Gary actually paid for. Because I think he did feel a certain amount of guilt that this should never have happened. And we won and they let me out. And, yeah, I'd like to see you later. I ain't coming back here. What was that late getting? 30 months? and then going to Brixton for the first day, how did you become a target because of who your brother was? Not really a target, just like, probably a little bit of a prize for people to chat to. Do you know what I mean? I got, I had two guys come into my cell. Cause you had this little tiny cell, yeah. Like in Brixton, I mean, you're there for three or four weeks before you go to Decaf prison, which is a walk in the park compared.

38:02I was in there for three weeks. Anyway, about two week two, this guy came into, these two guys came into my cell. At the time, there's the little flick phones, you know, you could take pictures on them, you could look loading them on Facebook, but they're only like Ericsson's and all that. So he's come in to my cell, he's like, you all right, I said, yeah, I'm all right, two of them, big lads. I'm like, you all right? He's like, come with me. I said, where are we going? He went, I need to talk to you in my cell. I'm like, okay. So I've gone to their cell and like, and they're proper aggressive, you know.

38:40Right, my missus wants a picture of you. I said, I can't take a picture of them. It'll be in the papers, blah, blah, blah. He went, my missus wants a picture of you. We're going to take it whether you like it or not. I'm like, ooh, this is the moment. So I said, I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll take it against a blank wall. And then I could be anywhere in the world. Anyway. I'm thinking he's pulling a knife. He pulled his phone out. He went, okay. I'm not fucking out. It's fucking terrible. I'm like, Jesus, man. But yeah, it's a proper moment, yeah. How long were you in prison for? Seven and a half months.

39:21Is that a long time, isn't it? It's best that you're living that. No, it's not. Yeah, I just got me down to learn my Spanish. I thought I want to take something out of this. So I just sat in my cell for seven months, just going and trying to learn Spanish. It was difficult because my daughter at the time was unbelievably close, you know, so I was took away from her. She had to visit me in the prison and we had this game we used to play. So I used to, I got a colouring book, so I'd colour one thing in on the picture, post it to her, and she'd colour one thing, post it back. So about 12, 14 times we finished the picture, which was cute.

40:06I used to get so excited to receive that letter with that drawing of see which picture she coloured in. Yeah. And when she came and see me I used to be, it's just be like an incredible feeling. But she used to come every single week. Is that the hardest thing about prison? Yeah, definitely, yeah. I mean, the fact that I was locked up in fucking April as well. So I missed the whole summer in Tenerife. How could you run your business? Could you still run your businesses from in there? Well, that was the growth of my son, Dwayne. He was thrown in at the deep end. He was now my partner in all my businesses, Ocean, everywhere.

40:50You know, he turned him into a man in seven months. He did amazing. So, yeah. I mean, that was the good thing that came out of it. He was only young. He was really young, you know. But he managed, he did well. And it grew him to be a proper man. And he's now an incredible businessman. He wipes his socks off of me. is so unbelievably clever, organised yeah he's going to go a long way that boy How was the press worth you? Did they have a field day when you got sent to prison? Yeah well I got I walked out the courtroom in the fucking in the cuffs I walked out of the courtroom into the security security court van, do you know the ones with the windows in?

41:50there's about seven little stand up things inside so I'm going in there they put me in there took my uncle some shut the door I'm literally you could only stand up you can't there's no there's nothing else in there then you got like an hour's drive to Brixton I'm like fucking hell this is fresh you know this I'm like can't believe this is happening to me so anyway the driver jumps on it's about all the all the little cubicles there they're all full all lads that just been nicked so I had to wait two hours before I got in there before everyone was ready blah blah and um no I'll never forget it it turned on the radio the guy the guy that's driving said all right lads do you want some music on they're all going yeah yeah yeah I'm thought why are they so happy I'm like visible as sit-ups I don't want to hear any music but I'm just sat there anyways turn the fucking radio on first thing Gary Link's brother sentenced to blah blah blah today I'm like oh for fuck's sake yeah mad how was your mum and dad still alive at that time yeah your dad what were they saying yeah just as well isn't it bless them yeah that's the hard thing about being inside no matter what you've done it's the worry that you put them through.

43:14Yeah, obviously we used to write to each other and my mum used to write to me and my dad because it was a lot different then. Technology's gone a long way since then. Was it slopping out then? Were you slopping out? It was all letters. Well, you clean your own cell. You keep it clean. Was our toilets in then? In your cell you had a toilet and a bunk bed and a sink and a kettle that's all you had who was your soul mate my PA no still my PA is that how he's met yeah bless him he did nothing wrong at all he got he got sent in bless him didn't do a thing wrong nothing mad maddest thing so they put the two yous in the same cell yeah but funny enough after because you get you get you get sent to um the first thing he said to me when the first night we're in the cell at Brixton.

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45:35I'm like, oh my God, that's fucking funny. And we were just pissing ourselves laughing. But yeah. But he left after two weeks. He got transferred quicker than me. And the security... What do you call them? I can't forget what you call them now. The screw. The screw comes up. Dave, Mr Hodges. No, Hodges. Not Mr Hodges. Hodges. Your transfers come through. Lineka, we have a new guest for you tonight. just gonna show yourself I'm all great Jesus worst day of my life I said okay I'm thinking I need to get out of this place so I just said be warned is a recovering crack addict I'm all great lovely so I'm so I'm all but the geezer's warts in is must be 25 stone must be huge guy and yeah it was like you know he said to me look i might stop shaking at night and stuff like that blah blah blah it's great and um yeah and believe me he shook he rattled that bed snoring i'm like i'll never forget it i'm like i gotta get out of here man but what can you do i had to put i had to put up with him four days never slept for four days.

47:02I was literally like dead. Then they went you got your transfer so then I went to Decap prison it was like it was like going to the fucking W Hotel in London it was amazing. It was it seemed like that but yeah. So what was it like getting out? Was it a relief? Unbelievable great greatest feeling ever. Has that put things in perspective for you for life? It did for a short while and then you forget about it. yeah you just crack on but i remember driving down the road and went oh my god look at this it's amazing even you notice the birds and the leaves and it's really mad and like you sound a traffic jam and think this is great and when you walk in a shop little corner shop i'm like look at this you know how was life then how long were you married for first time I don't know about eight years what about second time three months I love that shit mate fuck the three months isn't it but how's does see being with that lifestyle is that hard to have a steady relationship being in that part of life yeah I mean let's be clear it's not easy to date me is it I'm surrounded by girls every day and they all want the picture to talk to me they all want to talk to me and so yeah it's difficult um but yeah do you have any regrets with that kind of not stepping back and just giving a relationship 100 how can i regret anything man my life's unbelievable i'm so blessed man you know what i mean i'm surrounded by amazing people amazing children amazing partners great friends I own a beach club in Ibiza the greatest one in the world everyone was taught to me everyone's nice to me everyone's happy to me how can I not be how can I have any regrets how many kids do you have for for Freddie my youngest and tear my daughter and Sean and Dwayne my eldest how many different mothers three fucking hell Wayne I've got three to three as well have you I need to open a beach club to change my name to fucking Wayne but how's like how see when you're going through that stage when does that kind of become tiresome it must become tiresome living that life become a character where it's not really it's not normal no matter how much we sugarcoat it and say it's great this and that standing with girls and drinking but when does it does it ever become tiresome being this guy character it becomes tiresome when you take the piss out of what you're doing and you go out all night and you fucking get in at seven and you expect to fire on all cinders if with two hours sleep and all that that's when it becomes tiresome but finally over the years i mean last year i already went out to a nightclub last year I just went to the ocean every day, just go and have some dinner on the way home.

50:17I did the Glitterbox here and there, and Eden defected on a Friday. I'd either do it Friday, it defected, and then alternate it with the following Sunday at Glitterbox. I'd never do like two, three nights a week at clubs this year. I found that made a big difference. Whereas four or five years ago, I was out every night. 2012 I did 100 hangovers in 100 days. I never got in once in darkness. Never got in once in 100 days. Yeah. Every day I got in was daylight. I used to go sleep, few hours, go to the ocean, vodka red ball, back in the game. Bit of lunch, cup of glass of wine, another vodka red ball, off I go again.

51:10And that was a cycle I couldn't get out of and lasted 100 days. Were you taking gear? No, no. Just booze? Just booze. But that's an alcoholic. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's terrible. It is what it is, but it's also fun. Yeah, but as a man who... You just got to control it, but it's difficult. Back then I couldn't control it. I was like, I was just like an animal. Yeah, that's not control because a man who used to do it myself, I see the red flags and I see when somebody's struggling because that's a massive form of escape no matter how well we sugarcoat it or the car we drive or the watch we wear what bird's standing next to is doing that stuff we're hiding from something one million percent did anybody ever say to you look at your son listen dad fucking head oh yeah my son yeah head out your ass man like you're flying in life you don't need to do all the other stuff yeah it's only really my family really everyone else has got our wine being used well i just don't want to see a sober wine then Do you want to see a sober Wayne Lineker?

52:14I want to see a sensible Wayne Lineker. Let's put it that way. See, when you've got Ocean, you've got all the big names coming through the door, who's the one name you would love to see come through the door? One or two people. And that's because I just think, I've just watched, one of them's Mr David Beckham. I would love David Beckham to come and have a day out with me I know David but I've not seen him for years and years and years since Gary played for England I think I just admire that man the way he went through you know he talk about turning your life around you know and I just admire him so much for what he's done and he's a lovely guy you can see in his smile he's a good kid so yeah one's David Beckham the other one's asked to be Leonardo DiCaprio I actually watched Wolf Wall Street again last night for the seventh time.

53:13He's the man, bro. He is the man. He's so good at acting. Yeah. But yeah, he's a funny fucker. He would fucking love it. I know shit where the young birds act. Every fucking year his birds get younger. 18, 19, all models. Listen to each turn on. It is a bit fucking too much for me. But he's... DiCaprio. Yeah. What a guy. I mean obviously you know I see his image like Wolf of Wall Street but it's obviously not like but oh man yeah Beckham's class as well he went through after the World Cup when he was sent off against Argentina man the only thing about Bex is he I mean he's married but if he was single he'd be taking all the tens wouldn't he I'd be left with the eights well he'd be fucking he'd be cleaning up but she seems a good woman as well she's a good girl so you don't realise how strong she is and having a woman like that in your life which has kept him because he fucking he was besotted by her he loved her and back then I have no disrespect to her but she wasn't the greatest I binged his documentary in two hours yes so much respect for him she's got better she's got older she wasn't the greatest back then so I was thinking how the fuck does he love her so much but because of the the mother and nurture of her saved his career saved his life but you forget people were hanging like fucking David Beckham's statues out in the pubs and stuff.

54:36Nuts. Young kid, man. He actually went through. You know yourself? The media kill people. Yeah, I know, yeah. It's a comeback from that, the way he's done. He deserves a day out of the ocean. Do you think he'll ever show up? I don't think so, no. Why? I don't know. Do you think it's... He likes his red wine in his fan house and that, isn't it? Yeah. Maybe one day. Who else has been? What other big names have been? There's so many, man. and like Dumble's Aaron, he came. It was a disappointment. Just a bit boring, really. Left early. Yeah, it was a big disappointment. But yeah, I mean, we get fishers, and all your DJs, they all come.

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56:44I got the video. Sweeping up on the stage. Just fell into the crowd. Funny guy. How is Big Maya? She's beautiful. Big Maya. Yeah, she's nice. She's stunning. She's a beautiful girl. Yeah. She's very pretty, yeah. She's like, yeah. Proper. Yeah, she's very conscious of how she portrays herself, which is good. I think everybody is, though. Yeah. Majority of people. They're not. Yeah. Some people just let the herd down. Don't give a fuck. But yeah, she's a good girl. What's the worst thing you've seen in Ocean? Worst thing I've seen, I shouldn't. Guy had a hot sack this year, fell on the floor. Yeah, bad.

57:32Just like, he was just walking through the venue, and I just fell on the floor. And yeah, fortunately the medics pulled him around, got him to hospital and he was alright. But it was mad. We actually closed the venue for like an hour, until we knew it was alright, because we thought it was going to go. Just, um, just, no sign, nothing. We've got all the CCTV, we've got him walking through the venue, happy as anything, just walking with his orange cup in his hand and as he was just getting to the dance floor and he just fell over and cardiac arrest yeah so we had to turn the music off then we got word that because we acted so quickly and we've got a little clinic in there with qualified doctors and nurses and and they brought him around and got him into the ambulance and yeah fortunately it was okay.

58:34You must get people taking bad turns all the time because I think I was on the mandy then and then i was tripping balls i got through out i chased a guy there was a guy in a suit who used to walk around your pool but i was that was just yeah he had a fucking suit and it was a weird so i ended up getting huckled out i think that's the mandy mate like a penguin i've never said yeah i've never said anyone that's what i thought yeah yeah and i was chasing him in the pool but then the bouncers fucking weaked me out Tuckled out Fucking good times mate I miss that old James That was cringe But I mean I look back How you fucking cringe But I had a black eye Not then as well man Sounded right wrong I knew mate Yeah fucking hell When are you your happiest when?

59:18When I'm with my family We go to the Maldives every year Well we've not been for Since Covid But starting again next year We used to go everywhere To the Maldives All the family All my kids all the girlfriends, boyfriend for Sean, because he, bless him. We all used to go together, and the grandkids, and just be away from everything. And it's beautiful. That's when I'm at my happiest. Family seems everything for you. Like, I know you don't really touch on it much, and you don't have to, but how is it not speaking to your brother, Gary? Especially getting older as well. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna speak about anything to do with that with my brother, but it's obviously Obviously disappointing, but because we used to be so close, but yeah, it is what it is.

1:00:05That's the painful thing, because for me, it's everything I'm doing as I got older, family's everything. Yeah, it is. It is. Nothing else matters. Yeah. I know you love Ocean and all the fucking glitz and the glam, but it's all bullshit when you bring it all down when family's fucking everything. Yeah, everything, yeah. Do you think you could ever resolve it? I don't know. I don't know. It's not in my hands to do that. I've tried, but it is what it is. How's life now? For me? Yeah. Fantastic. Did you just say that though? No. Because you're used to saying that. It's fantastic. I just love my life, man.

1:00:42Because you've done the reality shows now. What was the single show you've done? Celebs Go Dating. Celebs Go Dating. How was that? It was the best. So in COVID. Everyone's in fucking lockdown. Me, Tom Zanetti. I like Tom. Shout out to Tom. Tom, love sock. Tommy boy. He's a mad bastard as well. He's the funniest guy, bro. Yeah. He kills me. His energy. I've never seen anyone with energy like him. He's got more energy than Fisher. Matt. But good energy. And he's got a good heart and a good soul. He loves his family. He's got good morals. But he's a mad fucker. How was I going on that dating show?

1:01:24It was the funniest part. What made you do it? At that time, I was getting a lot of stick on the on the social media and stuff and I did a post about my criteria and a girlfriend and it went worldwide viral went across the world it was ridiculous they were talking about on loose women this and the other but it was a piss take was me just being funny but it went so viral it meant it got alerted celebs go dating because it was about me trying to find a girlfriend to contact at me and say, look, do you want to come on the show? So I sort of thought about it, I thought, yeah. I just want people to see me for who I am.

1:02:05You know, they either like me or don't. I think it was the best thing I ever did. Yeah, I had the best time, man. It's the funniest thing. So we're all in a mansion and it was just brilliant. Curtis Pritchard, Chloe Ferry, Kimberly Hart. just the best squad. The best squad. Karimi. Yeah. Great memories. You came good friends with Chloe Ferry. Oh yes, it came me, Chloe, yeah. Then we did the fake engagement. That was the funniest thing. Yeah, that went viral as well. But Chloe's Chloe. There'll never be another Chloe Ferry. She's the funniest, man. She's just hilarious. she's just constant just laugh yeah she's a good girl how long did the show last?

1:02:59I think about 8 weeks something was in there something like that loved it you seem to love everything you do right enough you seem you just go I like life innit yeah I do enjoy my life yeah I know you man you're a good guy how do you deal with the stick and shit when people talk shit online how does that affect you it never i'm so thick skinned i just don't care what i care about is my daughter having to read you know i went to this crouch fest through the week like i got on my way so i got crouchy and christart they said wayne come on the show because they used to take the piss out of me but saying i'm the best club manager and pep guardiola's and nothing compared to me and all that and there's this ongoing thing on their podcast so they said come on the show we're gonna do the crouch fest come on come on stage I went all right sounds good I'm on my way I've gone on the tube so if I don't want to drive because I'm gonna have a probably have a drink and so I went on the tube I'm on the tube all groups of lads on there we know we know we love you we know all coming up jumping on me having pics I'm like okay okay so I've got there and um honestly everyone's so so nice to me and the crowd were going wayne wayne anyway got got to the actual moment i walked out i've got two birds on me on both got a bottle of goose in their hands probably wasn't the best idea with 12 000 absolutely wasted football fans and like i'm thinking oh that was all right and then i've walked out everyone's gone yeah then all of a sudden some kid's gone pedo and his mate's gone pedo then it's spread it spread across the venue.

1:04:49There's 12 ,000 people shouting, call me a fucking pedo. I'm on stage. I'm like, whoa. I'm like, come on. That's the worst. Pedo, pedo, 12 ,000. There's one person there that wasn't shouting at me. I'm like, you fuckers, you just say what great matter about the fucking tube. And now you're calling me a pedo, which is for me, one of the worst. That's the worst. That's the worst. so i thought um i just i turned around i walked off stage and i went home because they said to me we're going to bring you on every 20 minutes 30 minutes we're a big part of the show up and so i thought i said i'll go i'm going to quit why not why i'm ahead i think it's the best thing for me to just walk away from this um because it only got worse you know what I mean because it was funny for them they're all pissed up aren't they herd mentality I call it and yeah it was a bit of a moment I wanted the fucking stage to open up and just suck me in like you know like fucking Gemma Collins you know get me in that trap you're alright now

1:06:00that is the worst thing 12 ,000 cunts because they in their mind listen everybody goes to Ocean they're spending thousands on your bar but like I say the same people come out yeah a picture with me we love you Wayne you're the best blah blah blah but it's just I get it because like it's a football they're football fans you know what I mean they go and sing they they all join in about giving I don't know like on David Beckham's thingy you know on his um documentary there was a moment when the same thing happened to Posh to Poshbeck's takes up the ass yeah she takes it off do you know what I mean everyone at the stadium you would rather somebody shouting but Wayne takes it off the ass than fucking Peter do you know what I mean I'm not keen on either of this but yeah it was a moment and how hard is that for you then because that is it doesn't matter people laughing it's alright us having a laugh now but it's still going to affect you do you know what I mean it's still going to fuck you up it actually don't affect me at all it honestly it just does not affect me it affected me that moment because I thought this is not comfortable I mean I can't you know but I know in the back of my mind they're just doing it because they think it's a laugh they don't really understand they don't give it any thought process wait shall I go into pre-dome everyone else's okay I'd fuck it do you know what I mean they don't think about it so you know I don't hate them for it it is what it is it's just a laugh It's not a nice laugh.

1:07:36It's not to be on the receiving end of it. You know, I've got my daughter, having to see shit like that. 12 pounds of people calling their dad a pedo. That's the thing that upsets me, nothing else. I don't give a fuck. I care about my family, you know, me and my grandkids. You know, Mila's, she wouldn't see it, but, you know, she's at that age now, she's starting to look on TikTok and, you know, she sees a TikTok of her granddad being called a pedo. not cool, not nice. It's very upsetting. That's the only thing that upsets me, personally. I know they don't mean it. But her mentality. But my granddaughter, for example, or my daughter, it's going to affect them a little bit more than it affects me.

1:08:22Did Crouchy reach out to you after that? Yeah. They looked uncomfortable, though. Yeah. As soon as I left, he messaged me, I'm sorry, this should never have happened. We didn't see it come in. And then, yeah, then Chris Starr messaged me and, you know, Abbey, Abbey messaged me as well. They're all super nice. And everyone's like, why didn't Crafty do something about it at the time? But I understand why he didn't, because it would have, it would have made things worse, I think. I think the right decision was for me to just walk away, slip out of the back door, get on the fucking tube back home.

1:09:00I actually got an Uber because I didn't want to go to the tube. and get home but yeah they were super nice Crouch is a good kid super apologetic it was bad for him as well it's not nice for him to have his guests on and get slaughtered like that yeah that's next level like I say that that can fucking put people into a depression yeah exactly yeah and I always say this people say sticks and stones but words kill people more than anything nowadays words are the worst mate words are the worst they do more damage do you rather a fucking broken nose or a broken arm than fucking somebody shouting that exactly yeah um yeah i mean i did a podcast not uh two a couple of years ago and no excuse for abuse because i i was seeing there's so much abuse on twitter and and this, that and the other.

1:09:56And I've just got celebrities on every week. And we used to sit down and talk about abuse, you know, and stories. And I think it did a lot of good because it's not nice, you know, when you're continually getting hammered. You know, I've got close friends who've took their lives, you know, a few. And because of that reason. You know, my ex-girlfriend, Sophie Graydon, took her own life for that reason. Because she got battered when she came out of Lubbock. So it's not nice. But yeah, it has got a little bit better. Not just for me, for, you know, it's not accepted anymore as much as it was. You know, all these, and Twitter and Instagram are so much better now.

1:10:50you know these got words flagged and you know you can't write nonce now you can't write pedo you can't write certain words because it will flag up and you'll get blocked or deleted or warned or so it's much better How did you deal with that losing an ex-partner to suicide? Yeah it was it was tough obviously you know I was in love with that girl at one stage and you know we had three years together and she's funny as fuck, she's a great girl, and a beautiful, her welled at her feet, she went on Love Island, got abused, and she come out by the public, and for that reason she took her own life, she's saddened it.

1:11:38You know, my theories, I had Nando's within three days before he killed himself, in Loughton. no one ever seen that coming did they but you know he used to get he used to get attacked by the by by the media and social media yeah Caroline Flack Caroline I love Caroline Caroline used to speak on the EMS I was telling her read the book Caroline stayed I live at a place called Seven Pines and she was there a few weeks before you know we were having fucking breakfast together. Do you know what I mean? Knots. Yeah. No need. But yeah, hopefully it's going to get better. How do you, like I say, but it's people asking you for falls.

1:12:29I seen the fall of four girls one time that were making faces and I was kind of cringing at them. These people are paying money in your place, spending fucking thousands. Listen, you don't mind the laughing people drunk. You're always going to get assholes. I was an asshole when I was drunk, but it's the, it's the fucking abuse that comes from the vile stuff that people and yet nobody sees says anything to you on the street i get shit oh they never do nobody's ever come up to me and says fucking anything and i'm thinking everybody's nice i think storms i came off of social media because he was saying i know who i am as a person i don't need people on social media telling me because nobody does that in person so i don't know what it is for people behind the screen talking shit what's worst thing anybody's ever says to you online well it don't get no worse than nonce does it yeah you know that's that's a that's a child six offending rapists that's the worst you know what it's because people's mindset is they're seeing you in ocean getting photos of 18 19 20 year olds they're all over you're the most selfied man on the planet or something is that true or is that just something that's throughout now I think I'm the most photographed man on the planet selfie man on the planet that's draining in itself though that's not specific have you ever had any photos when you're fucking out you're nut are you always trying semi ok when you take a photo I've got my security he knows what I'm allowed to say if I'm absolutely stinging I never say no I never say no he'll just whisk me away and go away Right, I say, I know you, you're a good gang man.

1:14:12We're like, wait, it's home time. Yeah. Is there much shag? Because he knows I'm going to get hounded. He knows everyone's going to go, what? Is there much shagging goes on in Ocean? I don't know. Well, obviously, yeah. I presume so. Is there? In the toilets and stuff, I guess. Does it get stopped, us people? Yeah, obviously, you know, it's not, you know, we're not going to encourage it, are we? But I'm not stupid to know it don't happen. there must have been many fucking babies made in there a lot I wonder if anybody called to be it's ocean there's a lot of babies have been born because the mother and father have met an ocean I know loads that's the only people come to me all the time we met an ocean we've got a baby now and I'm like that's fucking great do you know what I mean but the actual you know pistol bangs in the toilets I don't know it must happen many proposals quite a few yeah but I'm like no don't propose to your missus in fucking ocean man no it's not it's not the one you know have a great time come and have your fucking party there or celebrate or you know your hen do's and your stag do's and this and this but don't propose at ocean I don't think it's the one it's not you know what I mean I just don't yeah I find it a little bit some some kid came up to me and said look Wayne I want to propose to my missus.

1:15:39What day should I propose? I went, where? He went, at Ocean. I went, no, mate. Take a fucking Esweger. Get a fucking, you know, go and have a picnic in the sunset and do it there. Do it properly, but Ocean, surrounded by 1 ,500 people that you don't know. Do you know what I mean? Nah, don't do it. Do it properly, man. How is it having a daughter? knowing you see a lot of these girls as well drunk steaming falling about i've got a daughter i love to bits but and i'm a protector i worry as well how is it with your own daughter she's done amazing in life she used to have the chow dogs we used to because that's my chow chows and uh yeah she's incredible yeah so proud of her she she don't drink to you very very rarely if she does she'll have a little shandy or a little pawnstone martini that's about it bless her but she's uh she's very special with that one it's my only girl in it but um yeah my princess but she's done super well she's held herself so well over the years you know she's always you know she's built her business up through social media but she's done it well you know she's not done no no other raunchy pictures or anything like always classy always fashionable always on point always good backdrops always thinks about everything.

1:17:08She's kept that up for years and now she's doing really, really well. I think she's got over half a million followers now. But they're real followers, you know what I mean? They're not, they're people that volunteer because she's so good at what she does. And she's so fashion, her fashion sense is amazing. She's got a new brand now, kids brand out, because she's got my grandson now, Helva. And she designs clothes and they've got a little brand now called Label, The Label. But, yeah, she's doing really well. Yeah, that's what it's all about for me as family, my kids. I'm way away at the bank. She's such a good mom.

1:17:43She absolutely worships her boy and Harry, her boyfriend, who's, I call him, father-in-law's dream, you know. Don't drink, sensible, funny as fuck. smart, cool. Yeah. He's a, he's a good kid. Very lucky. How has it been a granddad? It's great. I love Myla. Myla's my, my first, she's too, she has my heart. I mean, I love all my grandkids obviously, but yeah, me and Myla, we're like best mates. I pick her up from school. She chats to me all the way home, I chat all the way, you know, um, she absolutely loves me, loves me to bits and we spend a lot of time together but yeah she speaks fluent Spanish now goes to Spanish school she lives in Ibiza with her dad and her mum and dad and her sister Aria but yeah very special very lucky to have the family I've got I really am How's your love life now?

1:18:52Zero Why is that? Not found the one yet trying to get committed to Ocean? Is that like a relationship? I actually really enjoy being single. I've been in relationships constantly all my life and not that there was anything ever wrong with them. You know, it's what it is and the ending comes to what they're ending for. But I'm happy on my own, you know. I mean, secretly searching for the one, but I'm not in any rush. I'm still young, isn't I? Still a baby. Don't answer, bastard. But that's what we say We're happy single But the bottom line is We're always searching Because all we want to do is feel loved It's the best feeling in the world It's the choice I'm of the choice You're scared of it though Because now you've seen the divorce And you've seen exes Suicide Where it just becomes too painful Having just a breakup in itself Is fucking painful To protect yourself with But do you feel as if You protect yourself more To not give anybody a chance Because of the pain you've been through No, I'm not been through any pain, I'm okay.

1:20:00I'm very strong-minded and I'm not stupid, you know.

1:20:08If the girl comes along, then she comes along. But if she does come along, I will give her absolutely everything, 100%. You know, that's what I've always done. Because that's what I am in life. I'm 100 % or I'm nothing in every single thing I've ever done. i'm just so if she does come along then she'll get every single piece of my heart and mind and everything else that comes with it what if she tells you she doesn't want you come back to ocean that's up to her innit you're married to ocean ocean comes first yeah to be fair yeah no i mean i'm not yeah it's going to take a lot to drag me away from that place what do you look for in the women

1:21:00it's probably different to what I used to look for but I don't know like I say I don't want to pick and chew I don't want to give my criteria away again because last time I got handed for it but obviously I like a good looking woman that's in nice shape and good personality clever yeah one of my quotes was um one of my criteria points was you know you you must be intelligent you can't you know in geography for example you can't think Lincoln is in Wales you know where's Lincoln is in Wales no you know just um so you need to be clever intelligent and hold a conversation at dinner. I don't know.

1:21:48Yeah, it's the awkward silence I don't like, you know, when you're with a girl and you've got no conversation with her and like a chat and have a laugh. It's scary now though with social media and all the fake shit. It's hard to connect with somebody on a level, especially with the businesses you've got, the money you've got. How could you trust somebody as well? Well, there is that, yeah. Are they with you? Because, you know, I mean, over the years I think I've managed to work them out, you know. But they still slip under the radar, especially because we're all searching for love. Of course, but they weren't last long.

1:22:23Yeah. Because I know people think you're a mad shag or this and that, but that's not the case either, is it? No, it's not at all. No, not at all, you know. I'm not... I've got a feeling someone's sleeper than mine. Believe it or not. Sorry to disappoint you, lads. But yeah, that's the truth. So where does people get that concept from? Because of all the fools? Because they see me in the pictures with the girls. So young lads' mentality is he's got to be banging them in me. But he's not. Yeah, everybody they see and they're thought, what other girl you're going to think they'll shine to you. Yeah, of course.

1:22:59Yeah. It's just the way of the world, isn't it? But the reality is far different from that. Do you think you're ever going to retire from it? Give it up? Try and go for that other life? No, just. things will die in ocean i see me 90 years old rocking in ocean in a zimmer frame taking selfies with the girls come on girls do you have no no i like to class myself certainly the the silk the silk shorts on yeah no you'll die in there then is that if you just came to the conclusion that's that it's a strong possibility it's fucking mad that you're still going strong you go there every day and fucking do what you do to then what do you think how do you think where how do you see your future i don't really look that far you know why um i've just i've just never been that sort of person i I mean, obviously business-wise, we look at our future and what we're going to do and where we're going to progress, which is done mainly by my son now.

1:24:11He's took over the realms, and I just... He does all the work, and I take all the credit. That's the way it is now. But I'm more than happy to put everything in his hands. He's the dad of the relationship, not me. He's not a drinker. He's not a party. He never goes ocean. he's always there but he's in the offices he's on the phone he's in meetings, he's doing this, he's doing that which is what people think I'm doing but I don't do nothing if you've seen the video with Faris absolutely nothing I just have a good time but I built the foundations as I always said it was the foundations for everything that's come since then and I built them, nobody else, just me I'm very proud of that and yeah so maybe I've earned my stripes.

1:25:04It's nearly 40 years in that industry. A lot of ups and downs. You always seem to have been busy though. Was there any moments when COVID must have been a fright for you? COVID killed us. Absolutely wiped us out. Killed us. Like you know talking about 20 businesses all hospitality. All fucked. For what? For two years not one. You know we absolutely. Fortunately we were financially strong and we survived but it hit us very very hard like incredible you know i walked in there on a he just called quarantine and i walked in on a tuesday in a kistory event seven o 'clock at night when normally there's 1500 people in there standing on the beds tables junk and having the best time of life dan's floor is full this something other walks in there's seven people in there 14 people in there two beds I drove got I'm going in the car I cried my eyes out I'm like what the fuck that was in August um you know mad but yeah and now we're back with a vengeance what makes a good business man oh you just got knuckling when you know when it's when the guy gets tough the tough get going isn't it oh and uh unfortunately that's what our company has done come back strong you know Maxi my Indian partner he's always just constantly alive and looking for new ventures and businesses and connections and this and that we've got a really good partnership the five of us and we're going to keep going, we are going to keep going and going and going Where do you go from here, Micunas?

1:26:53America? Yeah, we've got a big announcement to make very soon, but I can't share that at this moment in time. But something big's happening. Huge, huge, huge, huge. That's got to be the bias out there. I'm not obliged to say at this moment in time, but sometime in the new year it will be announced. I'm surprised you're not doing more oceans all around the world. well that was the plan then Covid came and so we're we're we're now back in the game enough to be able to continue our plans so life's going good then just doing your thing yeah not looking for love but looking for love yeah that's the one I'm looking for love but I'm not really looking for love but I'm looking for love yeah yeah I'll yeah I'll tell you what comes if you could change one thing for the past, what would it be?

1:27:56That 80 grand of tax, probably.

1:28:01Have you ever written a book? I got halfway through. What happened? A book. Do you know what? I can't write a book. I can't write a book and tell the truth. I can't tell the truth about my life. I cannot with my kids. when Tia reading that book I couldn't do it to her so I opted not to write a book yeah and now I've got my grandkids and you know I think if I want to write a book I want to write the truth and I can't write the truth no chance I can't any more TV stuff coming up? not at the moment no nothing what's the plans I'm not really looking for any what's the plans for Christmas New Year?

1:28:46I'm going to see Tia in Dubai

1:28:50and Harry and Albert and then Dwayne, Megan, Myla and Aria are joining us in Dubai and hopefully Sean. Freddie can't this year spend it with us because he's super busy doing it. He's so busy. See Freddie, yeah, he will be the UK's number one DJ by the time he's 25. Absolutely no doubt about it. He's so talented, so good looking. Girls love him. His music's amazing. He's got this energy about him, this aura, that when he walks into that DJ box, he can feel it. He can feel it in the crowd. He's like, whoa, that's my boy. He was great for me, I love it. I look at him. I was with him at the weekend.

1:29:36He played a set in, I did a PA in, I did a PA in, where was I?

1:29:45Nottingham and he did a set and he was like, does the crowd just love it? He's got this energy and it's like, you can see he's like, he's passionate about what he does and he loves music. Like I say, he's always loved music. So I'm very happy for him. He's probably the only person in the world I would switch shoes with. I would take his life because he's got an amazing future out of him if he can hold it together because obviously as we all know in that industry it's it's hard to get loose but he's a he's a clever polite humble kid um i think he'll stay that way yeah good for anybody watching that maybe writes negative comments towards people what what would you say to them i don't know if it's like you know freedom of speech in it i want to take notice of it do what you like don't really care um yeah no no what's the greatest life lesson that you've learned so far oh greatest life lesson never take the house vodka always take the gray goose

1:31:04when listen thanks for coming on today listen like i say i know you're a good man you're a good cunt I've just walked to you for a while mate you would help anybody out anybody that doesn't know you would you like to finish up on anything else no just I'll see you all in the beefer 2024 let's go baby take care brother cheers bro thank you

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