The Faith War - Christianity v Islam - Sulaiman Ahmed

28:06and the third country was Nigeria. 330 ,000 Nigerians have come into the country. So the vast majority of the migration into the UK is not from Muslim countries. And so this is an example of it. Then the question might have come as birth rate because another argument they make is, guess what? These people are outbreeding us. They're outpopulating us. Again, the data doesn't show that to be the case. What it shows is when someone comes or migrated from, for example, Pakistan or various other regions, initially when they came, yes, the birth rate was high. but over time when it goes to the second or third generation their birth rate diminishes significantly it goes below 2 so it's like 1.8 to 2.5 depending on what study obviously the white birth rate is a lot lower and we obviously will speak about that that's like 1.2 or whatever which is completely like self-implosion and so the question mark becomes is most of the birth rate Muslim?

28:55no it's not the data actually shows the vast majority of births foreign births in the United Kingdom from males is Indian and from females is also Indian. And so this claim that there is this kind of Muslim invasion into the UK is just fake news. It makes no sense. And then someone like Tommy Robinson, who's kind of many people consider him, and I'm not trying to attack Tommy Robinson. I'm just trying to demonstrate his ideas. He's been put as the position of this kind of far-right movement who's standing against this kind of idea of migration. But then he supports Indian immigration. He supports immigration from Saudi Arabia.

29:31So he is someone who supports immigration And yet he's fighting against it Now I'm someone who disagrees with immigration I think immigration should stop completely I think we should completely shut the borders And the reason for it is I'm not talking about illegal immigration Illegal immigration is a way of manipulating people in the UK And because Americans don't know what's happening in the UK They kind of push it So in America as an example They do have an illegal immigration problem Because in like four years in America They had 11 million illegal immigrants into the US In the UK, we only have 40 ,000 a year Now, obviously, illegal immigration should stop as well But there's a huge disparity on that, right?

30:08So most of our migration is actually legal migration And I'm against legal migration Because the reason for it is this That when you bring people in now Especially now in the situation the country's in For cheap labor Let's say you bring in like a thousand Indians, right? A working class Brit Let's say he was going to get paid 15 pound an hour You're going to get away with paying him like£12 an hour Or£10 an hour or£5 an hour Because they'll do it for a lot less And that harms the working class The only people that benefits Is the rich, is the oligarchs Is the billionaires and the millionaires And so the people who support migration into the UK And the US is actually the rich people So in the US as an example I don't know if you know about this But there was this big drama about H1B visas And that's where I lost my blue check mark on it Because I spoke out against the H1B visas And Elon Musk got upset and because like obviously when I lost my blue check mark there was two reasons one was the H1B visas and then Elon Musk came out to support Tommy Robinson the day after and I was kind of one of the main people who was against Tommy Robinson on social media and what happens is when you remove someone's black by blue check mark it impacts their engagement so what happened was with H1B visas was bringing cheap Indian labor into the United States of America which harms the American working class and if you see it many people on the You can say far right But the people on the far right In the US Who aren't basically Zionist controlled Or spoke out against it And like Musk got angry He was like Oh I'm going to go to war With you people Because it's the rich Who want migration It's the rich Who want cheap labour It only harms the working class And actually This is one of the kind of Mental confusions That the people on the left have Because the far left now Is no longer left wing Because what were left wing ideals It was to protect the working class And it was to And this is why A lot of people are moving to Toby Robbins.

31:59So I understand the logic of why. Because it was to protect the working class and it was to be anti-war. And what's happened? The left now doesn't care about protecting the working class. They're like, we want migration. We want all of these things to harm society. We don't care if there's affordability issues. And they've become liberals. And liberalism has basically taken over the left. And now being left is like being woke, being pro-feminist and all these type of ideas. but actually when you look at working class values, they were always left-wing positions. That is something the left should have pushed but then what happened is because they kind of ignored the working class who are struggling in the UK, there is no doubt in our minds that the UK is struggling.

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33:46I'm not being horrible, but it's basically Jewish Zionist billionaires and millionaires who are taking over the country. When you say Blackrock, who is it? It's Jewish Zionist people. So these people are taking over our country. They have control over our country. They are the rich in our country. And the poor people, they've got them fighting amongst each other. And that's the real aim of it. Because the race issue, is it something that's new? No, it's not. We've had race riots and fights amongst people of different races or religions in the UK many a times. It happens, it blows over, and then people move on.

34:17But they always escalate. You know, for example, the 2001 Tottenham riots. Or for example, the 2011 Bradford riots. or the Southport riots last year because of what people like Tommy Robinson basically promoted and caused. But the point being, these riots have happened many a times. And so the aim is always to get both sides angry, fight amongst each other while they're fine. So even the Southport riots, do you remember when they happened? And this happened at BLM in the US as well. So if you look at BLM in the United States of America, BLM was basically people from the black population who felt like they weren't getting riots.

34:53And so then they were protesting, and they were protesting, they were rioting. But if you look at the areas that they were rioting in, where were they? It wasn't rich suburbs. It was... There were only areas. Exactly. It was working class, ethnic minority and black areas. But do you know who that was funded by? Black Lives Matter. Do you know who funded by? Yeah, I do. Who was it funded by? BlackRock. And who else? It was funded by... How is his name? Is it Soros? Soros. Soros. What's his... George. What's his... What's his... white jewish i mean i don't think they're the same um so yeah this is the issue you've got basically that's the point it's always the same people are involved this is but this is the problem i have yeah it's um i don't have any problems with legal immigration i think yeah we're living in a society where people think illegal immigration's get everything to do with race illegal immigration gets has nothing to do with race yeah the scottish the irish the polish have went to new york and all over the world.

35:53Illegal immigration as a father, what I'm big on is free speech. What I'm big on is illegal immigration. I believe you should not be able to enter a country unless you have the right paperwork. That's just a fact. That's just common sense. It's nothing to do with race. Police rushing, if they want to come here you've got to have the right paperwork. Reason being if you're causing destruction, if you're causing mayhem and harming children you can just disappear again. A lot of people are coming over in boats and throwing in their passports in the water. They've got a little sheet to say you're gay and you say and things they're following so they can get and i've refugees are more than welcome reason being america and the uk have destroyed more countries than anyone if a family wants to have a better life by all means give them it what i see is humans now that's what i want to need to stay with and stay down the middle that we're all human i don't care if you're muslim christian i have my own thoughts and opinions on certain religions i believe it can be a bit culty i believe it's great to have a belief, I believe, at a higher power.

36:49I believe people can be manipulated, but we need to be careful now as well. We feel as if the world is turning into a war zone. The world ain't that bad. You walk along the streets, you don't really see that much. There's a lot of great people, and the majority of people, white, black, gay, straight, male, female, they want to just go on with their life. You know, social media is turning us against each other to hate, to hate this person, to hate that person, because what change gets done without any compromise? What change gets done without any conversation to understand we're getting the wheel pulled over our eyes by the hierarchies to think everybody's to blame.

37:30When in reality, we're actually okay. Like social media has made us turn against each other and I was gravitating towards that but I'm not because now I'm questioning it all to realize I don't care who the fuck you are. If you're good to me, I'm good to you. You're my brother. You're my sister. I go to Dubai. Muslim city one of the best cities in the world I have no issues every Muslim I know is sound they treat me well I treat them well they don't try and force their agenda same as Christians the same as people who've been in prison I interview murderers and bank robbers and drug lords I have no issues with them because they treat me well and they're trying to do better you know but the thing about the only thing I have about Islam is when because the Muslim boys run the prison system yeah so I have an issue if they recruit anyone and that's including paedophiles that's including the bad I don't agree with that I think if you harm a children you should be excluded from life do you know I don't think I don't are you talking about in prisons yeah in prisons they're recruiting a lot of people in prisons no matter who it is and people want to be part of that brotherhood as well but I have an issue with that because I don't I believe in forgive and forget but not if you harm a child there's no forgiving you know because there's no change in the mind I just don't like the fact that anybody can be recruited you know but just on that In terms of prisons I'm not an expert on that So you'll know better So on prisons From my understanding is That what happens is When you go into prison It becomes like Kind of like Groups and gangs And you're either Going to be part of Like the Muslim gang Or you're going to be part of Like the Aryan gang Or you're going to be part of Whatever the other gangs are Which you'll know better More better than me And so what happens is From my understanding Like the Muslim gangs In prison Are a little bit more powerful Than the rest of the gangs And so therefore They wield a lot of power and so many people will probably i'm guessing join them in order for like safety and so that's just criminals right criminals in prisons act in this manner if there wasn't muslim gangs i presume because i watched i don't know if you ever watched that tv show oz right they used to have like all these different gangs and if it wasn't muslim gangs people would just be part of other kind of either race-based gangs religious-based gangs ideological gangs in prison some to try and get protection some to like safety because the concern is that it is like aggressive is that how it is or yeah i just think they should be excluded yeah they should not and if they want to go to religion then do it yourself i don't think they should be accepted anywhere yeah but like you say as prison people are willing to join these gangs for that extra bit of protection especially with those charges but that's the issue that's my issue because i speak to a lot of people from prisons and the muslim boys run the prison system yeah there's no denying it because they get they've got Friday and everything when they're going and praying they're creating that brotherhood and it's the fastest growing religion in the world and like I say when I go to Dubai it's the best city in the world I've no issues with any religions I'm at a stage though I don't think Muslims and Christians can be actually in the same countries anymore because I just think there's so much conflict I think everybody now is trying to overpower you know there's many Muslim countries there's over 50 many Christian countries both over 2 billion I think follow each religion I just think there's too much ego and there's too much extremism in both that everybody tries to win now and it could be a massive war and I think the war is going to be not white and black I think it's going to be Christian and Muslim I think it's going to be a religion war I think that's where the higher powers are trying to cause I think the point of the thing is that's the way I see it and listen I could be wrong I could be but that's the way I'm seeing it and I just don't think now people are getting on and I think social media has went too far with it because in the UK, you would think it was the Muslims causing all the destruction.

41:11You'd think it was illegal immigrants that only people who caused mehemia. That's not the case. It's the majority white here. I mean, the white people is the world's majority. We are the only 10, 12 % of the world's population. We are the minority. Yeah, true. You know? So I just think, though, we're using skin color, we're using religion as a way of blaming others we all need to look at ourselves we all need to stop pointing fingers we all need to look okay what's the issue here let's work together can Muslims who are high up in those communities expose other Muslims that's another concern where because it's in the religion is it not part of you can't stick another person in if they do wrong what is that?

41:55So I'll explain all those points so in terms of Muslim and Christians I agree with you that there is confrontation happening between them. But I believe it's manufactured by the Zionists. Same. By the Zionists. And I'll explain to you why. So the question mark becomes, and there's a question for you before I answer your question. You'll ask me again if I forget. Why do you think that they're not compatible, Islam and Christianity? I just think because of the way social media is, I think it's turned everybody against each other. And there's many religions, there's many gods. But I just think now we're at, mosques are getting burnt down, churches are getting burnt down.

42:28Look what's happening in Nigeria. and there's no media coverage you know I just think we're at a stage where whoever's being paid like you say you believe people are being paid to turn against Muslims and I think it's also been the same and the other way I think people are being turned against each other so if people are being turned against each other then they're going to believe their religion's right and they're fighting for their religion because they want to kill and die for their people so now I just think people are then making out their religions better than one another I believe in that there's a God Jesus has spoken many religions he spoke in the Quran he spoke in the Bible the Abrahamic the Abraham what forgot what's the Abrahamic religions?

43:08Judaism, Christianity Judaism, Christianity and Islam yeah they're all sort of similar they are yeah you know but we're living in a world where I just feel as if I see it the way it is on social media everybody's getting turned against each other and I see it as a religious war I don't see it as a colour I don't see it as a country I see it as becoming religious just because it's the two biggest forces in the world is Christianity and Islam. But I just don't see we're in a place anymore where people can live together. That's the way I'm seeing it. And that's sad because religion should be about peace.

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44:51Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. Over the thousands of years over religion, but I just felt as if that could be the biggest indicator for another world war and i could listen i could be wrong but that's just the way i'm seeing it i i agree with you i believe that there is this kind of attempt to make muslims and christians fight amongst each other but where i disagree is i think islam and christianity is very similar there's not much difference between them and this is why when people always ask this question i'm always like what's the difference tell me something that you were a problem with islam that isn't found in christianity and judaism and actually you will never be able to find it and so in reality when it comes down to it there's actually not much difference and this is why I do believe that people attempt to get these two religions to fight.

45:55It's why I never fall into that trap. If you look at me, I get many opportunities to debate Christians. And I always say I never debate Christians. I never debate like within sex, within Islam, because I just think this is done intentionally to cause friction. I'll debate ideas. So I'll, for example, debate Zionism or debate Israeli control of the United States and the UK and various other things. But I think that is something that's harming all of the people in my country, which is the UK and everybody in the United States where I spend a lot of time with who I've got a lot of friends with so this is the reason why I speak out against that but in terms of this intentionally destruction that's occurring I agree with you because and it's done by in my view the Zionists because what happened was in my view not in my view I can prove it that from people who are from the Jewish perspective and you have to understand from their perspective in their view they've been abused for a very long time mainly by Christians right in their view and what happened was this culminated in the Holocaust, right?

46:52And for them, that was like the worst thing that ever happened. And what, if you know their mantra, they always say, never again. And they really believe that. They say it, but they believe it. They say like, never again. We're never going to allow this to happen again. And then from their perspective, they think like, how do we make sure it doesn't happen again? Who are our biggest threats? So our biggest threats are Christians, white Christians and Muslims. We need to make sure those two people never harm us again. How do we make sure we do that? So when you look at both people They're different types of people Muslims are more ideological And what I mean by that It's harder to take away the religion from them But in my view They're a lot weaker In a physical sense They're not very good at fighting Right?

47:33They're not warriors On the other hand Christians It's the opposite You can take away their belief and ideology away You've seen Christianity in the UK die Within 10 years But they're very warrior-like They fight They fight Right? And so I believe they targeted these two people, made them fight on purpose. So the way they targeted them was they took control over Western governments, the US, UK, Australia, the various Western governments, and they destroyed their society from within. So that's by promoting certain ideologies that do destroy society. For example, feminism, liberalism All of these different ideologies And this is why you see in the West The decrease of religion You also see a population collapse And I talked about population collapse 10 years ago What does that mean?

48:19That means that, for example, for every two white people If you're only having one child You're halving your population And so it's the self-destruction But why that was done was through the media Through government policies And through various other things They did it to the black population as well through music and through housing policies in the United States of America. And so you destroy them ideologically. And then Muslims, you destroy them physically. And this is why you basically bombed the Middle East and bombed all these various places. And you caused destruction in them, which, as you said, caused a refugee crisis, but also destroyed their countries.

48:54And this idea that basically those people in those countries are not amiable to the West is ridiculous. Because if you look at now, the countries that are most pro-West are what? Saudi Arabia UAE Qatar They're the most fundamentalist Probably in my view Some of their positions are extreme Even within Islam I don't agree with their positions If you look at my writings Before I became big on X Because when I became big on X I specifically focused on politics But before that I used to write I used to write against extremism within Islam But And so they're good with them But if you look at the other Middle Eastern countries They're bombing them And they're a lot more liberal And I'm not saying liberalism is good And I'm not saying they're liberal But I'm saying they're not extreme So if Lebanon, for example, if you go to Lebanon They've got a flipping crazy nightlife It's like being in America It's like being in the UK And yet they're bombing their country And so this idea that basically they hate the West is fake Obviously, in my view, they're bombing those countries for Israel And that is harming the United States and the UK And in reality, no one wants to speak about it But the real problem in our nations is the Zionist control Because I think that's what's actually causing poverty That's what's causing our infrastructure harm That's what's causing the working class to fight amongst each other And then they'll highlight places like Nigeria And there is an issue in Nigeria There's no doubt about it, right?

50:09There is Christians being killed There are Muslims being killed But from my research, disproportionately There is Christians who are being killed But it's being killed by who? It's being killed by ISIS It's being killed by Boko Haram Who created ISIS? We have documentary evidence That the US government with Israel And Saudi Arabia facilitated these extreme elements within the Middle East and these African nations in order to attack. And so when I have Muslims on my shows and Christians from Nigeria, the Christians say there's the Muslims doing it, no doubt about it. I have to be honest. The Muslims say it's the extremist Muslims who are doing it and they're coming to our mosque and doing it to us as well because we're not the right extreme sector that they're in.

50:50So what's the difference then from a Muslim and an extreme Muslim? So, for example, for me, I believe Islam is the most peaceful religion. If you look at the Quran, I would say it's the most relaxed religion compared to everybody else. Now, I'm not saying it's liberal. No, it's not. And let me give you an example. Like, for example, homosexuality. In Islam, in the Quran, it says homosexuality is not permissible. So it means you can't, like, basically partake in homosexual action. In the Bible and in the Torah, it says kill the homosexual. Right? So what's harsher, killing the homosexual or saying it's not permissible?

51:28Killing the homosexual. So that's an example of how the Quran forbids something But there's not this extreme action against it And then within Islamic law, Sharia law And we should talk about that as well in a bit But Sharia law, we have like People say, oh Sharia law, Sharia law, taken over But people don't know what Sharia law is Sharia law is just how one practices the religion And if it was a Muslim country The legal edicts within the religion So as an example, within Islam You have like more than one form of Sharia law There's the Hanafi school, there's the Maliki school There's the Shafi school, there's the Hanbali school Hanafi is followed by the most people Within the Hanafi school, if someone partakes in homosexual activity It needs to be in public It needs to be where four people are witnessed there And the punishment for heterosexual public display is also the same So in reality, the punishment is Public display of homosexual behavior or heterosexual behavior There is a punishment and the punishment is lashing, right?

52:27And then what you've got is You've got one extreme group Which is an extreme minority Who may take that and say Look we're going to kill them as well And they'll hold the same position as For example the Bible or the Torah So extremism within Islam What they do is In my view a lot of them Are either They'll take the text And take it as an extreme aspect But it's an extreme minority But largely speaking what we find is Those people who are taking part in these Extreme actions or even terrorism I don't agree with the word terrorism Because I think it's created just solely for Muslims But if you look at these extreme actions It's not even done in the basis of religion So for example Al-Qaeda and ISIS It's now universally confirmed Based on academics and researchers and journalists That when they were taking part in those actions They were doing it based on being men for hire So what that means is whoever paid them the most They would go on their side And so they basically overthrew Syria They overthrew all the Middle East and it was done based on being paid.

53:25And just think about it, you're in the Middle East, you're in Central Asia because there was many people like, people from Central Asia who were going there, people from different regions. It was based on being paid as opposed to some kind of religious ideology. And so what happens is you kind of meld this kind of religious ideology with this idea of these people being for hire. So once you separate that, you realize that actually it's less got to do with extremism and more to do with being meant for hire. Now, there is people, for example, in the US, less so in the US, in the UK, who do partake in some extreme actions.

53:59We saw recently, right, in the synagogue where the guy did something extreme outside, he killed one person, and then I believe the police killed the other people. But if you look at him, he's someone who was extreme, but again, his position was extreme. Now, the question mark becomes he was someone who was known by the intelligence agencies, so why was he not picked up? I do believe that they push this and propagate this But even then there is this position That he obviously has which is extreme Even though I do think that he's been used By people in order to enact these actions What about then How many mosques in the UK?

54:32I believe there's about 3 ,000 right? So I believe in countries Having culture, I believe culture's a great thing When I go to countries I love the culture I love the flags, I love Their foods, I love everything about it Because it's different But what people may be a bit scary Scared of is having over 3 ,000 mosques The UK I don't think is a Christian Is a Christian nation Really anymore anyway I believe it used to be But In the Middle East You're not allowed, chapels or churches You're not allowed, you'll not see anybody in power Who is maybe Christian, a lot of it is From their own side, can you see why A lot of people might be nervous of The overpowering of something Growing so fast in their country as well And we're back streaming on Peacock.

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57:04They have churches as well. The only place that doesn't have it is Saudi Arabia. But that's, and I believe they're laxing their policy as well. but with Saudi and by the way I'm for anyone practicing their religion anywhere like I don't agree with it that's the only reason why I ask because I know you says you believe people can get on but that's why I'm saying well there's not really anything in the Middle East because there is mosques all over Europe and it is the fastest growing religion in the world yeah there is chapels and churches yeah churches in the Middle East but in Saudi Arabia there's not now the people make the argument that it's the same as the Vatican so you know how the Vatican you can never have a mosque because it's the specific a place for the catholic church that is how saudi arabia is for muslims and so it's a specific place where there is these kind of number one holy side for muslims and that's where the kind of similarity is so you know how the vatican you can you can't basically have a synagogue yeah and you can't have a must understand yeah but the vatican excel was probably maybe another podcast vatican city like that is mad what that's about and the underground tunnels and there like it's unbelievable but you're happy for chapels churches to be anywhere in the world obviously not saudi arabia if the vatican no i'm fine with it being in saudi arabia as well yeah so i'm just saying i'm just giving you the example of how saudi arabia is the same as vatican i actually think people should be able to practice their religion wherever they want i think that people should have freedom and i'm a big believer in free speech so i'm not i'm not someone who basically disavows that but in terms of there being mosques in in in the uk there is a large number of mosques in the UK, but that's just because Muslims practice, right?

58:35Muslims are very practicing. You are seeing a lot of churches closed down. People get angry when a church is converted into a mosque, but actually what it shows is a lot of churches are shutting down. They've been converted into night clubs, pubs, local bars, social areas, and also houses as well as mosques. So there is this basically collapse of religion in the UK. And I think it's a huge problem. By the way, I actually think that they should be, the UK should be a Christian country. I believe that the UK should be majority white. And the reason is because of what you said, which is that you need to have certain cultures and certain ideas that kind of breathe life into that place, which differentiates it from others.

59:14As someone who travels a lot, I go to Japan, I go to US, I've traveled the world. So I agree with you in that regard. But the issue you've got is with this kind of what's happening in terms of the minimization of religion that in my view is happening intentionally in order to harm and i do think the uk is a christian culture country but my question to you is this what is culture first of all you said it's the people which i believe you said is white people so i guess your position is that you want it to remain majority white which is what it is right now so i guess it's like whatever it is now but maybe not have too much immigration it's like 75 percent white at the moment i mean 97 in scotland scotland there's no issues yeah but like i say as we spoke earlier is under 10 % under of the whole world white minority right we are the minority in the world yeah yeah do you know what i'm saying so and there is a population collapse as well yeah of course because white people are only having like you say one child divorce rate is through the roof some people even having kids exactly so within the next possibly 100 years 200 years these numbers might come down to 5 % and it's only going to be it keeps going further than you're talking white percent and you know what there could be fucking nobody I agree you know because we've got the gayest generation we've ever lived in we've got but do you think that was natural?

1:00:28nah when we talk about poisoning the waters to turning people gay and making them more feminine the roles have reversed exactly between men and women women are becoming more masculine not that they want to be it's men have become more feminine true so now men but do you think that was done intentionally? of course because they want to depopularise the world that's the only information that I have I don't have all the answers and people But not everybody's been depopulised. Yeah, of course. Mainly white people. So what's the reason? I don't know. I genuinely don't know. I don't have all the answers.

1:00:54I can only get the information I get and maybe make an assumption. People can call you a conspiracy theorist as well, but white people are the minority and we're close to just dwindling down those numbers because we're not having enough children. There's not family structure anymore. There's no family morals. And one thing I'll say about the Muslim community, their family morals are so strong. You'll very seldomly see a Muslim mother, a father and a old folks home their kids look after them their morals of the family and having four and five kids we used to have that Christians used to have those values married at 16, 17 women were virgins, men went out and provided and protected the roles have reversed women have got three and four children and multiple men we've got only fans, we've got porn, we've got drugs we've got alcohol, divorce rates through the roof women are then, 80 % of women then want a divorce because the social media is making them think that they have a better life the most important thing and I will always state this women are the centre of the universe the universe revolves around women I believe because the way they can carry a child the way their energy changes the way that they understand life women give life I believe men build the world women create it and I think we're just so lost in a society I believe men should provide and protect but I just think we're so confused including myself sometimes I feel as if I have it figured out and other times I think I'm just completely fucking lost you know So I think you've made like a lot of important points.

1:02:18I just agree with everything you said there, by the way. But just to add to what you're saying, this has been done intentionally and I believe it's done by the Zionists in order to basically destroy the white population. And my evidence is who controls the media, who controls the government, who controls the policies, who controls the NGOs, it's the same people. That being said, the question mark becomes, what is British culture? And I think this is really an important question because people talk about it, but I feel like they can never be concrete about it. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So in my, because I'm third generation, so when my grandparents, so for example, my grandfather fought in the World War II with the alliance, and then after the basically colonization of India, which later became Indian Pakistan, they came over.

1:03:01So they came over in the 60s, early 60s. And so I'm third generation, my children are fourth generation. When my grandfather came over, he came over with this idea and they came to the north of England, you know, Middlesbrough. And they basically thought, we're coming over. We're going to come for a temporary period of time. We're going to try and make some money and we're going to go back. They worked in one of the most like brutal jobs. As you know, at that time, it was like the coal mines. It was the steel, steel factories. It wasn't, it wasn't good conditions to work in, right? Not how we've got it now.

1:03:27It's easy. And so they worked in brutal conditions. And when they came to the UK, they thought, Oh, guess what? We've come here. Okay, people will call us a packy or people will insult us, but we're foreigners. We're just going to take the abuse and we'll just carry on. But in addition to that, they thought we're going to be here for a temporary period of time and then we're going to leave. But when they came to the UK also, they thought, wait a sec, what is British society? What is British culture? They're Christians. They have the same values as us. They believe in the family. They believe in the nuclear family.

1:03:58They believe in the family structure. They believe in Christian values. All the things that you mentioned, right? They believe in, for example, defined gender roles. They believe in having children. They believe in God. They believe in looking out for your community. It's a society. And I thought, wow, it's very similar to our religion. There's not much. We can definitely become part of this. And so therefore they came on that basis. And they end up staying because the society was very similar to what one would consider, Muslim society or what the society that they came from before. So that's what the culture was then.

1:04:29It's not a culture now. Now, that's not the culture. Now the culture is liberalism, feminism, LGBTQ, these type of ideas. And so for someone in the 60s, whether it was my grandfather, or maybe even your grandfather, the culture was different to what it is now. And so the question, and the evidence of my point is, for example, in schools, Ofsted who come and basically examine schools, they'll come in to see if you've got British values. Very important. We all want British values, right? But what is the thing that they check to see if you've got British values? If you're teaching LGBTQ in schools, if you're teaching feminism, if you're teaching liberalism.

1:05:07So those in power have told us what they believe British values is. But those British values aren't the same as what our family members came to the UK for in the first place. So that's one thing. So I think British culture is different now to what it was before. And this kind of semi-revival of Christianity is an attempt to take the culture back to the 1960s. And what that shows you in the UK is the culture is ever changing. It's not the same as the US. In the US, the US was basically founded and built by white Christian Protestants And they still control the kind of fabric of what American culture is Or American society is In the U.K.

1:05:50we don't have that We've had a massive shift and a massive change And in addition to that, when I were like And this is why I disagree that basically Muslims have not Or Pakistanis or Muslims have not assimilated I think it's the opposite I think what's happened is they've assimilated so much they've become the same and I think that's I don't know if it's a good thing or not because for example me I'm a nerd right so I just read books but when I look at for example the Southport riots and I do believe it was inflamed because they for example Axel Radhawankar they claimed that he was a Muslim right and they then went and protested outside went and rioted and tried to attack mosques and so what happened was these guys who you mentioned with baseball bats came and defended right and both sides when I looked at it, well, I was like, I don't like either of them.

1:06:36Like they're both acting like the same. The Muslims and the kind of Tommy Robinson's crew or the far right were acting in the same manner because they'd act, they basically become the same people. If you come to the North of England, these people act in the same manner. Now, it's not the way I act because I'm like a nerd, right? I'm a podcast. I'm a streamer. I don't go out. But that being said, that's the product of assimilation because our grandfathers actually hadn't probably assimilated. so when someone smashed their windows in they just stayed in the house and now what happens is someone smashes someone's windows in who's for example a pakistanian muslim they're like wait a second i'm british i'm gonna come out and attack you and so if you look at working class people in the north i believe they're acting the same manner yeah but that's when that's where the divide comes in them because nobody's different they've got everybody fighting against each other without actually asking questions there's murderers and all killers true now what he did was fucking wrong and it was just it's very disturbing and the media keeping it back yeah fueled it even more as if there was something suspicious yeah so it's all a big game we're being played i agree we're being played and we're falling into their hands we're making it easier for them including wars yeah all war for me is murder i don't care who you are now i've interviewed a lot of soldiers from all walks of life and i've got nothing but respect for people who serve their country it's the same as 9-11 inside job but as soon as as soon as 9-11 happened you've got everybody patriotic what to fight for the country and rightly so if people try to invade scotland i would have to protect more and i would get the boots on and grab a rifle but why are these people wanting to invade our island so you've got 9-11 people wanted to fight for their country and then it never became apparent that it was an inside job so people who have lost their life for their own countries same as britain have and varied over 90 % of this world.

1:08:25So when people want to fight for their country, I have no issues with men thinking they're doing it because people join the army for so many different reasons. Get away from the household, a better life, travel the world, make some money. Some people have got anger in them. They just want to kill people. But the majority of people just want to have a better life. It's not until 10 years, 20 years later, they start questioning, why was there no weapons of mass destruction but they killed over a million Iraqis? Why did we take their oil? Why did Saddam Hussein? get killed why was the biggest cash robbery in history over a billion pounds um from saddam hassan you look at gaddafi what he did to these people these dick there's never any good dictators but if you actually look at tony blair and obama and what the destruction they two have caused what especially tony blair now you look at his son with digital id there's so many questions why in this day in this human race have we got humans killing other humans you know i think it was the second world war i think it was christmas day when i think the british and the germans stopped fighting and they played football.

1:09:23Yeah. I think, like, we're all human. I agree. But all the history books, you're a historian, you'd have read many history books. Yeah. So, I'm at that stage now I'm even questioning those books. Definitely. Because everything's been a fucking lie. True. You look at Hitler, there's a lot of videos now come out about this mad bastard that I was always told to hate him, which is understandable what they've done to Jews. But now there's question marks of how many Jews actually got killed. There's question marks over the gas chambers as well. Because you could read something and you can take it away something different from me you can we can look at a tumble and it could be half full you could think it's half empty I could think it's half full people's minds are different there's been a study to prove that we think differently so we can read a paragraph and see it totally different but I'm at the stage now I've got to question everything I don't know about Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Tony Blair I'm only getting fed this information in a hundred years there's going to be books about Covid vaccine there's going to be books about lockdown it was like a plague everybody was locked in a house when you're reading that you're thinking man look at what they live through when it was all a fucking hoax anyway it was all a hoax people were banging pots and pans and whatever we went through in lockdown I believe it's a test run for what bigger things are to come because that then shows me how dumb humans are and it's not that and I don't want to put us all down but human beings follow order and they followed order and that shows me how because the power of people is stronger than the people in power there's only a few thousand of them there's billions of us but yet we're so caught up in this rat race the schooling system was set up by john rockefeller in the early 1900s feminism kicked in john rockefeller seen a woman with a sign about rights to vote and he said you know what i'm going to let them vote because instead of men just paying taxes we'll get the women working get them paying taxes then if both are paying taxes where does their kids go they came into the system where we'll brainwash them about things who gives a fuck about your timetables and other things when we should be concentrating on now, we should be concentrating on inventions, we should be concentrating on helping to humankind and being a better society, being a better world but we're just caught up in such a rat race that we're all just full of hate, will I ever see a better world?

1:11:28I don't think so in my time, but for the younger generation they've now got so damaged by social media they're vaping, they're drinking, they're having sex such a young age we've got porn like we're so disconnected and that's why we can't ask the real questions because we're so full of static and noise you know? Yeah. So first of all, I agree with it, with everything you said. You need to do that. You need to question everything. People are sheeps. Like people just listen and follow and then never analyze. Whenever I'm speaking to people, I'm saying, okay, where's the evidence for that? Where's the claim for that?

1:11:57Where's the basis of that? Most people, 99.9 % of people aren't able to produce it because in reality, people don't research, people don't study, people don't look at things critically. I mean, the benefit of what happened with COVID is that now people realize that this was a massive scam on everyone, right? But what, again, it comes back to the same thing, like, who are the people who are trying to do this? So when you mention the war in Iraq, of course, it was something that was planned well before. You had Netanyahu who went to the US and said, we need to take out Iraq. You had, for example, the clean break memo, which was mainly by the Jewish Zionists who said, we need to take out these countries, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia sorry Sudan and they took them out and so when you look at what happened in Iraq I mean I don't think it was for money it was clearly to basically disrupt the area for Israel because these countries were considered rivals for them and so because when it comes to oil they already had policies in place where it was basically food stamps for oil so they would already be basically taking oil off them for hardly anything but in reality what it was is basically Saddam who was basically a US asset, was then used in order, basically they then turned on him because they wanted to attack and destroy the Middle East.

1:13:139-11, you're right, it was an inside job. Who was involved in the inside job? It was three countries. It was the United States of America, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. And these three countries have been involved in everything that's happened over the last 25 years, including the destruction of the Middle East, including Libya. Gaddafi was like a massive secularist, a feminist. His entire body cast were women. So this was a guy who wasn't like some extreme fundamentalist as the pair what they try and claim they destroyed Syria Bashar al-Assad was overthrown by these people the entire destruction of the Middle East was solely done for Israel and for their interests and you mentioned about like British people yeah British people sacrificed but unfortunately they did it for a foreign nation so when you say that if someone invaded Scotland you would defend them but the question mark becomes like would you would someone and this is why most Brits have woke up and they're like we wouldn't actually fight a foreign war for somebody else now.

1:14:04And because most Brits realise that when these foreign wars are happening, they aren't happening for Britain, they're happening for Israel or they're happening for the Zionists. There's outside interests that aren't for the United Kingdom. Yeah, I wouldn't fight for Britain. I wouldn't go somewhere. Muhammad Ali says it perfect. Exactly. When he says, why am I going and killing someone of colour and I don't even know that person? That's why he ended up in prison. This man was so ahead of his time. Exactly. But it takes balls to stand up against the grain because they will discredit you, they will tarnly sure nail, They will put you in prison They'll freeze your bank accounts Like it is difficult to then It's great to say Everything's free speech But it's not free speech Because me and you I guarantee are still scared To say things We know A lot What's going on in the world But there's certain things we know I can't say that Because they will fucking Take my social media away They will discredit So There's just so much I would never go and fight For someone else But then I did try and join The Marines At 18 years old Again that's the path I was on at that time It's a lot of young Working class kids in the UK Like my daughter's school all the boys are like, oh, we're going to join the army.

1:15:04And they've been conditioned into joining it, unfortunately. But this is like a mass manipulation because in reality, when you look at what's happening, like you mentioned that you respect the army and this is the problem we have. Again, it seems like I mentioned Tommy Robertson. By the way, I did offer him a debate, but he agreed to it, but then he didn't basically continue on with it. Is the point about Israel. He is someone who is important to British interest first. And the problem with that is, for example, when the three British military personnel got killed in Israel, he ridiculed them.

1:15:37So clearly it's not about Brits. Clearly it's not about the British army. It's for this foreign state of Israel. And in reality, this is the biggest problem we have in the UK. When we've got people in the far right who are against immigration, who are against like many of these things, we don't have anyone who isn't Zionist controlled. This is what differentiates the UK to the US As you know in the US There's this massive difference Where in the US There is actually this non-Zionist controlled Right or far right However you want to call it Who do speak out against Israel But have you got proof of these people working for them?

1:16:13What do you mean? Like Tommy and stuff is a proof I proved it, he was paid by Robert Shulman Right? So this is without a shadow of a doubt And Robert Shulman as I explained before Is an American Jewish Zionist billionaire who funds the IDF, who funds Israeli propaganda, who funds all of these things, anti-Islam hatred, and also funded Tammy Robinson. Like who has, what is a Zionist then to you for people who don't know? Because we see that word getting thrown about all the time, but what is a Zionist? So for me, a Zionist is someone who believes in Jewish supremacy. So they believe that Jewish people are more superior to non-Jews.

1:16:48Because my position is this, I believe it doesn't matter if you're white, black, brown, yellow, whatever race you are, it doesn't matter if you're Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, whatever it is, all man is equal. There is no superiority. It doesn't matter who you are. Each person has a different skills. You can say each race or religion or whatever has, race is probably the best way of describing it, has different skills and has different deficiencies, but nobody is more superior to another person. In terms of Jewish supremacy, there's this idea that actually Jews are more superior to non-Jews.

1:17:20And it doesn't mean, to be a Zionist, you don't need to be just Jewish. actually the vast majority of zionists are not jewish but the majority of jewish people are zionist and so there's this idea of and and so what that what that basically what we find in society is how this replicates is because it's based on foreign wars it's based on the destruction of societies it's the based on based on the fact that israel has this kind of supremacist ideals which is for example if you're a jewish person there's certain laws in israel which benefit jews over gentiles and gentile is someone who is a non-jew so you could be a christian or a muslim or white or black or wherever it is, if you're not a Jew, then you're called a Gentile or a Goyim.

1:17:59And so if this idea, or for example, the right to return, if you're a Jewish person and you've never been to Israel and you have no connection to Israel other than saying that you're a Jewish person, you get the ability to return to Israel. You have the right to return, even though you've got no connection. Whereas a Palestinian, their parent or grandparent can be from Palestine. If they're removed from the country and they want to go back, they're not allowed back. So this is an example of Jewish supremacy. But also what they do is they work as a collective, and this could be Jews or non-Jews, but Zionists work as a collective in order to benefit Israel or to basically benefit Jews as a group in the world.

1:18:40And this is the basis of what Zionism is. But if the Jews control the world, if Israel has a big say in the world, listen, China and Russia have got their own say, but why is there so much media attention then towards Palestine and Israel? Listen, Palestine's a genocide, no matter what people say, no matter what side you pick. 80 ,000 deaths to 2 ,000. 200 ,000. Yeah, do you know, like it's massive. But why is it getting so much media coverage? Why would they let it happen then if they're controlling the media? This is a really good question. So they control the media, but what they didn't expect, and this was a failure on their part, was they didn't expect TikTok and they didn't expect X.

1:19:20Those were the only two outlets That allowed And even they've changed now But just as an example They are the only two outlets That allowed people to speak out For what's happening in Palestine That's how I blew up even more I had a large following But now I'm like Became one of the most viral accounts Because I was debunking a lot of the lies That the Israelis were saying Whether it was about October 7th Or various other things And so they didn't expect that And so what happened was an ex, people, we all blew up on TikTok, people blew up speaking about it and didn't have control of those. The reason they didn't have control over TikTok was because it's controlled by the CCP, right?

1:19:57It's controlled by China through like a company in Singapore, right? ByteDance. And if you remember, there was calls in 2023 and 2022 to have take control over TikTok. The US government was saying there's a problem that China controls TikTok, but then they put the legislation forward, but then it was just completely ignored. X was controlled by Elon Musk. He'd taken over it and he'd made it into a free speech platform. And he said, look, you can speak about anything irrespective of what it is. And so what did they do? All of that information got proliferated. And when I spoke out against what happened, you know, in terms of October 7th, I was the very first person to speak out against for the Palestinians.

1:20:36That's the reason I blew up. But when I spoke out, I actually thought, look, this is a huge risk. Like if I speak out, I'm probably going to lose my social media account. There's going to be a lot of attacks against me because I knew they controlled the media. But I thought, look, let's do it. Like, it's worth doing. It's worth sacrificing for the truth. And so I did it. But the opposite happened. The majority of the world was pro-Palestine that actually ended up resulting in one blowing up. So what they did was they got Elon Musk and they made him, and Elon Musk, they got Elon Musk and they made him go on a tour to Auschwitz.

1:21:04They made him go to Israel and they basically made him spew the Israeli proposition. And then what you saw was X shift. The algorithms start shifting. the algorithm got to start changing. They redirected the algorithm. So now if you look at the algorithm on X, it's very much Zionist propaganda. All the accounts that are pushed are Israeli accounts and the non-Israeli accounts are not pushed as much. TikTok was the same problem. As I mentioned earlier, Jonathan Greenblatt said, we've got a generation problem, we've got a TikTok problem. The war on TikTok is really important. What did they do? They put legislation in place that banned TikTok under the Biden administration because it doesn't matter if it's Biden or Trump.

1:21:42It doesn't matter if it's Starmer or what you call it again, Rishi Sunak. They control all of them. And so what happened was they got TikTok. They put a bill through to ban TikTok, the most used app in the world. And they put it in place to ban it. Trump then stops the ban. But with the idea that actually we're going to not ban it, but we're going to put it under American control. It was put under America. Who are the Americans that are going to be put under control of? Jewish, Zionist, billionaires. Larry Ellison, David Horowitz, you know the same people I mentioned earlier in the interview? Those are the people who've taken control over TikTok.

1:22:19And so now, if you look at it, they've taken control of TikTok, they're able to control the algorithm, already the certain words you can't say now, which are pro-Palestine. So they realized they made the mistake and they made moves in these two outlets to take control over it. The rest of the outlets, if you look at the mainstream media, it's very much controlled by Zionists. If you look at the language they use, if you look at the information they propelled, they'll say Israelis were killed Palestinians died they'll say oh this many people died in Gaza according to the Hamas ministry so all of the statements they make is very much controlled as an example do you remember the lie they made about the beheaded babies on October 7th so I was one of the main people who debunked it and I'm actually writing a book on it but this is something that they pushed on something called I-24 News which is an Israeli media outlet so an Israeli media outlet which is their mouthpiece of Netanyahu pushed the lies about the beheaded babies and it was pushed through their media.

1:23:14Now the question mark becomes, how did it get into American media? How did it get into British media? It was two people who work in the US media, who work in UK media, who worked for Business Insider. One was a Jewish American, one was a British Jew, sorry, yeah, Jewish American, one was a British Jew, who basically then pushed it into the media in the UK and the US. So it's always the same people who are pushing it and they all control the same media. So what they'll try and do is use their power to diminish anyone who disagrees with them. So this is how they control it. So yeah, they control all the media outlets.

1:23:47They control all the mainstream media outlets. You saw basically Ellison now taking over CBS News. Just think about this. Barry Wise, who is, again, someone who suspects many people think she's part of Israeli intelligence, but she's definitely a Zionist, right? Left wing. Her organization called the Free Pest, it has less views than you. It has much less views than you. Do you know how much Larry Ellison gave her to take control over Basically the direction of CBS News And to take all the free pass $150 million So if she's worth$150 million You're worth$300 million But really how is it not worth that That was again some kind of like Money laundering operation Or an operation that was done In order to get Barry Weiss to control the direction of CBS News So it is completely Zionist propaganda And this is why they'll have on just they'll put on Zain's propaganda Dave Portnoy recently was put on where he complained about basically you know anti-semitism and then he did a whole long show about anti-semitism because it's about their control and they'll talk about that but they won't talk about for example attacks on Muslims so what happened in the US was some kid which I don't agree with basically threw some pennies at Dave Portnoy you know in front of Dave Portnoy you know trying to say basically you know to take money and he was like look this is a massive anti-semitic attack and then he was like went to CBS news to speak about it they said it's anti-semitism they got the boy arrested but then recently they did the exact same thing in dayborn michigan against muslims and nothing happened and so this is kind of like how they control the media what about october 7th for you because i see i don't have a side of palestine and israel i see innocent people being killed on both sides yes there's more palestinians than israelis but obviously israel was what was that not british palestine many years about 1940s or something but what was your opinion and what you think happened on october 7th my own opinion i think it i wouldn't say it was an inside job but i think the reins had definitely been loosened for something that was planned or something to happen that's the way i see it because how can you have one of the best intelligence in the world not knowing what was happening i was told that they knew weeks in advance but again i don't know i don't know but i feel as if it was allowed to happen from maybe i don't know for again because like the gulf of tonkin incidents which was many years ago which created the vietnam war they created that they said they shot at the boats and then it allowed americans to get in cause of war but what's your opinion on october 7th so i'm agnostic whether it was an inside job or not and the reason is i've researched a lot and both arguments are strong so the argument for why it's an inside job is as you said there was intel a year before there was also intel weeks before the egyptian military also give intel as well as israeli intelligence within itself give intel also there was like you know within the israeli stock market there was a massive short position this uh met the soldiers who come out and also claim that basically people were aware of it so there is arguments for why it was inside job it is massively surveilled as well but i don't think the israeli idf is as strong as israeli intelligence and so the idf is extremely weak but and so there's a differentiation that should be made on there.

1:26:58Then on the other hand, why there's a possibility isn't is the people who made these claims, a lot of the reporters are Zionist. And in addition to that, there was like a six hour gap. Now, was that because of incompetence or was that because of intentionality? There's a huge question mark about that. That being said, what happened on October the 7th is this. The Palestinian resistance, who had been oppressed for 75 years, who'd been kept in an open air prison, who didn't have access to land, air and sea, who had a calorie diet in terms of what was allowed into Gaza and what was not, decided that they wanted to basically break out of the open air prison.

1:27:37And the reason they did it is because there was Palestinian hostages that had been held in Israeli prisons, over 11 ,000. A large proportion of them are women, sorry, women and children. And a large proportion of them also Are people who've not even had a trial So they basically are hostages So the aim was this The aim was to go into Israel And to get Israeli military personnel Take them back into Gaza And trade them for Palestinian hostages So it was a military operation It was never an attack on Jewish people It was a specific military operation Now what happened on that day was There's a lot of things that went wrong The first thing was that there was the Nova Festival.

1:28:20The Nova Festival was never meant to be there. The Nova Festival was only meant to be 24 hours. They had an extension, which no one knew about, to extend it for another 48 hours. And it ended up being there when it was never meant to be there. This is why when the resistance came there, they didn't expect it to be the case. And the aim was, if you look at what they targeted, they targeted the military base and they targeted the kibbutz. Now, people say, oh, they targeted the kibbutz, but the kibbutz had military personnel in there. If you were doing an operation, that's what you would target. you were targeted where there's military people, right?

1:28:49There was non-military people there, but there's also military people there as well. And so the aim was to do an operation to take control of these areas, to take Israeli military personnel there. They didn't expect the Nova Festival to be there. And that's why they ended up taking a lot more hostages back than they ever planned to do so. Now, when they went into Israel, one of the things that happened was, first of all, there's 1 ,150 people who were killed. Of them, about 400 were military personnel, which leaves about 750. And my position is the vast majority of them were killed by Israel And the reason and my evidence for this is this If you look at the way Israel acted on that day They lost their minds First of all, they deployed Apache helicopters And Apache helicopters burned those cars and people to a crisp Such was the extent of their kind of mental behavior In terms of burning it through hellfire missiles Which can only be done by basically these Apache helicopters you can't do with RPGs or anything that the resistance had, whether it's the resistance or Hamas.

1:29:50They basically burned people to the crisp. For example, initially, if you remember, the numbers were a lot higher. They said, oh, 1 ,500 people are being killed, 2 ,000 people are being killed. The reason they thought that was because they'd end up killing 200 Hamas people, burned them to the crisp, and couldn't identify whether they were Hamas or Israeli. So that was the level of attack they did from the air. So the attack they did from the air was so significant that I do believe they killed a large proportion of them. Galan, who is the head of the Israeli defense at that time, said that he deployed the Hannibal Directive.

1:30:21The Hannibal Directive is that Israel kills its own people, it's mainly soldiers, but it's also their own people, in order for them not to be taken back to Gaza or wherever, in order to swap them for Israeli prisoners. So they deployed that, but they killed their own people in order that they don't go back to as hostages. Because previously what happened was, when there was an exchange of Israeli prisoner for Palestinians, it was 1 to 1 ,027. And they thought, well, look, we don't want that. And they might have key information. Therefore, we're going to kill our people before they ever get there.

1:30:52So they killed their own people from the air. And they also killed their own people from the ground because we have reports that they basically deployed shore artillery fire into kibbutz. For example, there's a woman called Yasmin Porat. She is an Israeli. And she actually said, she went on radio and she said, look, when the firing was happening in the kibbutz, the Hamas members were basically shielding us. The Israelis were just shooting at us and they were shooting at us crazy. And this is in Kibbutz Bari where over 18, 180 people got killed. And so, and by the way, Yasmin Porah now, they disappeared her in the sense of like, she's not even allowed on media or anything like that.

1:31:29So what we know is that Israelis killed a lot of people from the air. They killed a lot of people on the ground. So my position is that the vast majority of people on that day were killed by Israel or there were military personnel. Now, the question might become, did the resistance kill any people? Of course, I'm not someone who just lies, right? I've looked at all the videos. There is at least about five instances where it does look like that Hamas intentionally killed people. About five instances. Now, we don't know what happened before or what happened after. We don't know the people involved in there, whether they were military personnel or not, but they do look like that there was about five instances.

1:32:02Now, for those five people, my position is, of course, those people should be tried. for the full extent of the law. Just like when we have British military personnel, as you know, Pace Morgan exposed it as various people who basically partook in, an American personnel who took partake in certain actions that weren't accepted or basically directed by the army. Similarly, these people who've done that, they should definitely be held for trial. But this idea that basically there is some instances of certain people partaking in certain actions and now you need to kill everyone is just completely demonic.

1:32:34so that's my position and on top of that as well the other claim was about mass rape there is zero evidence that there was any mass rape there's zero evidence that there's any rape whatsoever the UN went in to Gaza to Israel in order to do an extensive amount of research and to do a study and what they found is that basically they went in and they said we didn't look at any of the videos because Israel didn't allow it we didn't look at any of the picture evidence because Israel didn't allow it we didn't look at any of the footage because Israel didn't allow it. We didn't look at, we weren't allowed to speak to witnesses because Israel didn't allow it.

1:33:11And so they said all of these things. They said that basically when they looked at the bodies, no evidence was, there was no physical evidence of rape. There was no physical evidence that any of these things had happened. And the whole bit, so I agree with the assessment because they've done the research. They've said, we weren't allowed to do any of these things. There's no physical evidence in terms of the bodies. When you look at, for example, the genitalia, there was never targeting of genitalia. Whenever someone was shot there, they were always shot in the body as well. So there wasn't specific targeting.

1:33:40The whole basis of why she came to that conclusion in the UN, first of all, she was friends with Qadari, who was basically someone who was part of the Israeli foreign ministry, who was friends with the UN, who basically got them to do the investigation. So again, there's this kind of biases that occurs. And I agree with the study. I just don't agree with the conclusion because the conclusion isn't based on the study because the study says there's no evidence. The study says there's no physical evidence. The study says that only the, you know, the position of the bodies gives her the indication that there was rape.

1:34:17But in reality, even with, she says in the same report that those positions of those bodies were moved by the Israelis. And so when you take all that into consideration, I said October 7th, all of it was lies. The reason they lied about it was because they wanted to manufacture consent. If you tell everybody that people have been raped, if you tell women have been abused, if you say that there's been murder of Jews, then this manufactures consent. And this is why immediately after it, they were like, glass Gaza, turn it into a parking lot. Many of the big Israeli pundits, all of them said that.

1:34:48And the reason they said it is because they wanted to manufacture all of this consent in order to take over Gaza. Because the Israeli position is this. They never want Gaza in terms of, they want Gaza, but they don't want the people within Gaza. So if you look at 1967 After they won the war They had a choice They could have taken control of Gaza And made it part of Israel Or they could have made it a separate state They didn't want to make it a separate state Because they didn't want the Palestinians to have a state They didn't want to incorporate it as part of Israel Because then it means that Jewish people are the minority Because there's more non-Jews who live there than Jews What do you think of Hamas?

1:35:24So my position on Hamas is that Obviously they are terrorist organizations So according to UK law and this is something we're going to speak about in terms of free speech obviously you can't support someone like Hamas, right? That being said, in terms of what they are is they are a resistance group and if there wasn't Hamas who was resistant and Hamas aren't the only resistance group you have other resistance groups like the PIJ and various other Marxist resistance groups if you didn't have Hamas resisting other people would be resisting as well because the whole idea is to resist against Israeli oppression for example, you look at the West Bank The West Bank don't have resistance The PA is in control of the West Bank And what are we seeing there?

1:36:02People get killed in the West Bank People get arrested in the West Bank The illegal settlements are increasing in the West Bank Palestinians are losing their land without ever resisting And so, irrespective of whether you want to call Hamas or whatever Somebody will always resist Now the question mark becomes, Hamas themselves specifically Is their goal to eradicate Jews? It's not And the basis and my argument for why that is is because if you look at the Hamas Charter, whether it's the 1988 Charter, if you look at the Hamas Charter, whether it's the 2017 Charter, or you even look at the booklet that they released after October the 7th, they quite clearly say this.

1:36:38They say that we want to, obviously they want to eradicate Israel because Israel is an occupying force. Their war is with the entity, the political entity that is Israel. But they actually say in the Charter, if we were to basically eradicate Israel or we were to take out Israel, we would have a land which has freedom where Muslims they mentioned this Muslims Christians and Jews can live in harmony that we will give them protection and they'll be able to practice the way they want what do you think of the IRA?

1:37:10it's the same I think the IRA in terms of what happened in that regard I do think that this was done in terms of the separation of Ireland was done intentionally you know that's why I'm asking because it's another man's freedom fighters another man's terrorists exactly like I say all war is bad but I understand like I spoke earlier if people come to Scotland then I'm there to protect it because I'm not going to go and fight exactly if people are going to try and hurt our children then I'm going to try and protect it but same as IRA like when Britain were trying to take over and would you say they were like resisting as well and so again like I didn't I didn't agree with the IRA in terms of certain actions they did but in terms of this idea that they want to resist because they want Ireland to be controlled by the Irish that is something that you understand logically it's their land it's for their people and this is why i've always said that even in the uk when you made the argument about white people and how it is part of what culture is i agree with you this is what makes britain britain this is what makes ireland island and so yeah i do think that resisting any kind of occupation and remember the irish people they never ever oppressed anyone whenever ireland went around to different countries and basically occupied or taken control or oppressed people.

1:38:25It's never happened. They've been oppressed for many, many times in many different instances in history. So yeah, I'm for, in terms of, I understand the logical reason behind why people are resistant. And again, I'm trying to be careful in my terminology because unfortunately we don't have free speech in the UK. And like any of these statements that are made, we could get arrested for. And therefore we have to be like very precise. And this is why I would say to my followers, try and be precise. It's because when you look at the free speech in the UK, it's completely being eradicated. And I know people in the far right feel like it's a target to them.

1:38:57And I do think there is some targeting on them for sure. But I think largely speaking, a lot of the arrests that are happening, a lot of the censorship that's happening is against anyone who speaks out against Israel or speaks out against Zionism. People are being arrested in the thousands. What do you think of two-tier policing? What do you mean by two-tier? you will see certain people getting imprisoned and other people not but if you look at the protests and say epping you had the protesters but when you're protesting i believe everybody has a right to protest you know you've got to have the right to protest when there's violence in it i think what the fuck are you doing when people are looting and stealing things and bombing cars like that's just what it's not you're not going to get changed through that but i don't believe people should be going to prison for words on social media i agree you know i don't get that but when we talk about uh when the muslims had the baseball bats and all that other stuff they weren't touched so people talk about two-tiered policing where muslims can be left alone but the whites are getting done for protesting and shouting and words on social media so i think i don't really see it i can only judge from the clips i've never been to these protests sort of things i don't really understand that I'm not really there other people do it but I just don't want to get involved because I feel as if when you do that you're choosing a side you know so it's going to sound like I'm biased but sometimes you might be as well though because of your beliefs yeah maybe but let's look at protest and then let's look at free speech and censorship and by the way I'm literally believing in free speech I love the US system where they have free speech and I was speaking out against how that's being attacked by the Zionists in the US to stop free speech in the United States of America but look we've had and I mentioned this earlier we've had three big instances of riots right race or religious based riots we had the 2001 Pottenham riots we had the 2011 Bradford riots and then we had the South Pot riots right the data clearly shows that when it came to the Bradford riots the people the time you know the sentences that people got in terms of time length they were the most harshest so actually the Pakistani Muslim community from the Bradford riots got the most harshest sentences based on the riots.

1:41:12And by the way, I agree that when riots, and the reason they do it is this, and not that I agree, I think this is a question about they need to have, but the reason they're very harsh on riots is because you can't have civil disorder. Because if people think that rioting is going to have a minimal sentence, everyone's going to start destroying buildings and places. This is why the argument they made for why people from the Bradford riots were given such harsh sentences. Like people did some, even - There was buses in that on fire though. Exactly. Like there was crazy shit. No, I didn't know that.

1:41:38Can people look on that? because like you say with the two to your policing I see the incident at the airport when the boys battered the fucking women and battered the police and then there was nothing of it but like I say I think people like you says jump on that as if it is a problem but I think the system here is actually not too bad when it comes to sentences I think a lot of sentences are lenient when it comes to paedophilia and stuff I think they should be live sentences I think it should be harsher but for other sentences I don't think people should get in three years for a Facebook post But if you're telling people to go and fucking burn down a house or kill immigrants, you should be getting jailed.

1:42:14There's no difference for conspiracy to murder from sending a text message from posting online. So I think there's got, you can't have vigilantes. You can't, like you say, you can't have the whole world. It's important because, like I said earlier, the power of the people. What was your thought about Lucy Connelly? I don't think she should have went to prison. Okay. A woman, you know, I don't agree with what she says, but she deleted it. You know, I don't think she's. How long after she deleted her? I don't know But the reason I asked that Is because you said You shouldn't incite But she was inciting What did she say?

1:42:45From the top of my mind She said something like They can Something like For all I care Yeah burn down the hot Burn down the hot People can burn down For all I care I don't agree with that No matter who I'm not agreeing with it But do you think It was inciting I think we both Don't agree with it Because I think Both are like peaceful guys I think it's just that You've got to understand When you're looking at social media And you're seeing these videos you're going to hate whoever it is you're looking at but the brain is a program so we're being programmed to believe the world is a mess that's why I need to step back from social media and actually be a free thinker and actually act on what I speak instead of just looking at that because if I see 10 Muslims harming a child I'm going to hate that but if I see white men doing it I'm going to hate them so I need to be careful because where your focus goes your energy flows so I need to be careful that I'm not being brainwashed, you know, and hating on demographics or certain religions because that's not what I'm about.

1:43:42I know people from all walks and who I respect. So I need to be that guy who sits on the fence. And listen, have your opinion. I'm not here to fucking not ruffle feathers. I'm not here to have a voice. I'm here to have a voice and go, I don't really agree with that. The Lucy Conley thing, she shouldn't have says it. Should she have got two years, three years, whatever it was, I think they tried to make an example. Like you says, people can't just be shouting that shit because people's emotions are heightened. when they see these videos. But I just think social media plays a massive part in all.

1:44:11And I think anybody inciting violence, I feel as if you need to be punished. I'm going to mention about the two-tier system in a second, but just on the Lucy Connolly, the reason I brought that up is because it's a really important test case. Because if you believe in free speech, right, it should be allowed. But what's the difference? But free speech and hate speech is different for me. Because I believe in free speech. Hate speech is free speech. Yeah, but I see, I think free speech and having an opinion. But I think when it comes to harming someone, I don't see it as free speech. If I'm going to murder him, I don't think that's free speech.

1:44:43I think that's dangerous territories, you know. We'll come to that in a second. So, for example, would you think that if somebody said to call someone like a Jew, a paki, a cracker, do you think that should be allowed in free speech? I don't think so, no. So that's the difference between your opinion and the First Amendment. The First Amendment allows his... Everything, yeah. Yeah, and I think that's an important... And I'll explain to you the reason why, because you can then say, oh, all of this is hate speech. And when you did that, it became liberal. You know what? The liberals did it. It became war.

1:45:10All the Americans are saying the N-word now. Exactly. They're doing videos and saying the N-word talking about the First Amendment. But I don't... And I don't do that. I try and be careful about hurting anyone's feelings. You're big on free speech. Yeah. But at the end of the day, there's free speech and hate speech. It's totally different from making threats. You know, like, have an opinion. Have your opinion on it. And if you want to say any word, by all means say it but it's I just think we're in a world where we can't let everything just go by and saying everything's free but then again am I contradicting myself because I'm for free speech but then should you be hating on other people because I don't want to be hating on anybody exactly you know so it's like a contradiction so as a sticky one I understand what you're saying a lot of my friends because I'm in America a lot like Myron and all these guys they use the N word all the time right and I'm always careful I don't use it and the reason is because not that I'm scared of the word but I just don't want to hurt people's feelings and I don't care if it's like black people or even white people, like I'll never use the word like, you know, this conkey, yeah, like I understand.

1:46:10And similarly, all the kinds of stuff. Just try and be careful on people because now everyone, even white people say, oh, it's anti-white racism, anti-Christian. So everyone has this kind of idea that people are being racist to them. So I try and like respect people. That being said, I don't want to make it illegal because we've seen the slippery slope it gets into and I just believe that the slippery slope is not good. We need to be in this situation. I mean, you are talking, We've got slightly different opinions. We've got to agree on certain things. And that's the best way to understand each other and understand ideas.

1:46:38And I think once you get into this avenue and you start censoring people, this is the big problem that's going to occur. Now, we've spoke about hate speech and free speech. And now the second point about is incitement. And that's why I bring Lucy Connolly in because Lucy Connolly's case is almost very interesting when it comes to that aspect. Because one, I think there's a very strong argument to say that what she said was inciting. And then the question mark becomes, where's the line? Because I know she got emotional But I believe she's the wife of a politician If I'm right And she is someone who said Burn the hotels for all I care And people were burning hotels, right?

1:47:11There's a strong argument to me That was incitement for violence Now the question mark becomes Does one agree that incitement for violence Should be something that is imprisonment? For free speech as well Yeah I think if you're inciting violence And telling people to do stuff Then you should be in prison Okay but then what about when it's indirect so as an example people make this argument and again I'm not trying to bring Tommy in but I think it's a very good argument from a logical conversational perspective so he was like everyone get I can't remember the exact word but he was like everyone get up take our country and you remember he was also exacerbating it would that fall into that category or do you think there's too much of a jump no I think if you're inciting violence and telling people to go places and sending addresses then you've got to be done for inciting violence I think running with your emotions on social media and looking at certain videos it can heighten your emotion so I think if someone deletes something and go listen I apologise okay you made a mistake but I think if people are talking about killing people killing different races killing illegal immigrants then no you've got to be punished no matter what it is like I believe like no matter what colour you are if you're telling people to go to fucking mosques and chapels and whatever it is then you've got to be punished because where does it end?

1:48:19you know there's got to be some boundaries there's got to be some boundaries on free speech you can't just be texting people saying oh I'm going to kill you and your fucking family but yeah I'm allowed free speech no come on you've got to have common sense like you have a discussion but that's not part of free speech so in the US in terms of the first amendment incitement to violence isn't free speech but the question mark when incitement comes where does what falls into that so anyway I think we're in agreement about this but I just thought it's worth a conversation and the reason in terms of sorry you can say about no sorry no I was just going to on you go finish up first so I was going to mention about the two tiers so it's a different topic so yeah no the two tier is interesting but social media would make you think it's two tier yeah so I think it's two tier but against Muslims and against pro-Palestine and I'll explain to you why.

1:48:59So I gave the... Do you think the algorithm though could be playing me and you? Oh, of course. There's no doubt about that the algorithm is playing. The algorithm is definitely pushing these riots. I'm just saying it based on the data. So based on the data because I don't look at the algorithm I never listen to what people say because I just find people I don't find most people to be smart. So if I was to go on social media and look at two-tier policing I would think Muslims get away with more than the white man. And that's because Elon Musk's pushing it. Elon Musk controlled social media. But an X.

1:49:26Now, I give the example of the 2011 riots. Pakistani Muslims were given their most harshest sentence. The second harshest was 2001. And the least harshest was last year. Right? So what that shows is actually last year was the least harshest compared to those three in terms of riots. In terms of people who got prosecuted, I haven't looked at this in detail. But from my understanding, there was actually, there was Muslims who got prosecuted for that. In terms of how long they got. I know, because I'm from Middlesbrough. I know quite a few lads who basically got sent down for basically, again, they believe it's defense, whatever it is, in terms of what happened in those riots.

1:50:02So when you look at that, that's one thing. The second thing is this, in terms of, because I researched grooming a lot, the data quite clearly shows that up until 28, 2021, when we had the data, basically when it came to people being arrested minorities and actually Muslims were arrested a lot more than anybody else they were sent to trial a lot more and they were found guilty less because it was incorrect arrest but when they were found guilty they were given longer sentences so they arrested more they are sent to court more but then they found no guilty because they're like, presumably believe they're innocent.

1:50:46But then when they are found guilty, they're given longer sentences. And then if you look at the attack on free speech, I don't think anyone should be arrested. I believe there was a comic who came into the UK and he was arrested as well. I believe he's like a right-wing guy or whatever. I don't agree with any of that. But let's be clear on this. In the UK, it's anyone who's pro-Palestine who's been arrested a lot more. We have thousands of people from the pro-Palestinian protests who were arrested. Grandmas, granddads, disabled people, elderly people. But then Tommy has been in prison as well And he's been arrested multiple times I agree, I agree But when Tommy was arrested First of all, I was happy that he got found not guilty on the last one Because them taking his phone away He's a journalist And to be honest, we all don't want those rights taken away And whenever they attack people who we disagree with They use that powers against us So I was very happy that he was found not guilty Because it benefits all of us Because that would be more power and control they have over us But in terms of Tommy being incarcerated I mean, that made sense.

1:51:44And I'll explain to you why. Because he lost his legal case, civil legal case, against that Syrian boy. It went to the core of law. He provided his evidence. They provided their evidence. He lost. There was a court order to say, you're not allowed to release this information or this documentary. He then basically released it. Now you can either hold a position that Look no one in the UK should follow court orders And that's fine We've got no legal system We've got no justice Or if someone does break it Then there has to be some kind of reprimand for it So quite clearly he broke the court order And therefore he got reprimanded for it But if you look at it In my view Tommy Robinson in South Park Rights Definitely incited those a lot Yet nothing happened to him If you look at a lot of his tweets They're a lot harsher than anybody else And yet he never ever gets arrested We have people like Richard Medhurst We have people like Sarah Wilkinson.

1:52:35We have people like Asa Winstanley, all of them pro-Palestine, not doing anything other than being pro-Palestine. And all of them being arrested, all of them got court dates. We have basically a doctor, Dr. Rahma, who basically, and many other doctors, who have had their medical license taken away for being pro-Palestine. The medical institute has now basically taken their license away. And West Streeting is working with the Jewish lawyers and the lawyers for Israel in order to, or the Zionist lobby, in order to basically censor these people. Just think about it. You're a medical doctor. We already, the NHS is on his ground, on the ground.

1:53:13It's basically struggling. And you're basically taking doctors away because they're pro-Palestine. And so we're seeing mass censorship occur But we believe it's quite clearly on that side As opposed to anything else There is far right people doing it Because I'm not one of these people who are like Oh it's just happening to our side But it's disproportionately happening to these guys Right Israel Why is Israel so big? Why is all these presidents and prime ministers Going and touching this wall? Why have they got so much control? Are we paranoid? Like why is it the same as if Israel are calling the shots?

1:53:44They are calling the shots And they do it through various methods some of it's financial some of it's career progression some of it's based on Epstein, like you know Epstein and his multinational blackmailing ring which had many of the prime ministers, people like Priest Andrew people like Bill Clinton, he was friends with Donald Trump even now they're not releasing the Epstein files even though the vast majority of Americans want it, people who are Trump supporters are turning on Trump because he isn't releasing the Epstein files Epstein was more sad he was he worked for Israeli intelligence and also yeah he worked for Israeli intelligence and so when you look at all of these things the reason they do it is because just think about a politician in the US or in the UK so either they'll be paid by AIPAC or Zionist lobbies so they're gonna be guaranteed their seat and it's not due through AIPAC it'll be like through the Edelsons if you disagree with them what do they do look what happened to Marjorie Taylor Greene she stepped down.

1:54:43You look at Thomas Massey, and they're literally saying they're going to spend tens of millions of dollars to make sure he doesn't win his C in the mid-elections of 2026. So when you go against them, you lose your C. If you stand with them, A, you get paid, but B, also when you don't get paid, you get career progression. So basically, what happens is if I'm a young congressman or I'm a young politician and I want to become a congressman, I know what I need to do, what moves I need to do to get into the positions of power. And the moves I need to do is to make sure I don't speak out against them.

1:55:12I need to agree with them. And so what they've done is they've taken control of the political system. They've taken over the media. I've just given, I've spoken in depth about all the different media outlets that they've taken control over. They take over the NGOs and the lobby groups. They've taken over everything in order for people to basically subservient. Preeti Patel can literally in the UK, when she was Home Secretary, she redirected money that was meant to go to the British military to the IDF. It was on the news for a little bit and then Nothing happened to her. She came back again. So our politicians are completely occupied and completely controlled and they do everything for the interests of Israel and the Zionists and it harms our people.

1:55:53For example, we're struggling. You know, I look at, I travel a lot. I go to all of the countries in the world and when I come back, you know, 15 years ago when I used to travel, or 10 years ago when I used to travel, I'd come back and say, oh man, there's nothing like UK. UK is the best. Now when I come back, I'm like, flip. Every country is better than us. Like it's one of the worst places to come to. and the reason is because of the harm that they've done to our society and the harm that they've done to our people they've caused this friction they've caused poverty they've caused even Brexit they pushed Brexit they pushed all of these things and for example in the 12 day war between Israel and Iran Iran would have destroyed Israel if it wasn't for the United States and the UK how much money did we spend in order to help Israel during them 12 days billions of dollars and so when it comes down to that when money is being spent for this foreign nation and we're completely occupied and people are talking about a Muslim invasion when we've got a Jewish prime minister, it's completely controlled.

1:56:50You look at COVID measures. If you look at the people who are in charge of Pfizer, they're all Jewish Zionists. If you look at the COVID restrictions that were put in place, as you rightly said, it was a test case because the aim, as you said, is judicial ID, is to control who's been given the contracts. So if you look at the UK and the US, during COVID a large number of our contracts were given to Palantir. Palantir is Peter Thiel. Palantir is Alex Karp who are Jewish Zionists who deployed their weapons in Palestine or their technology in Palestine they also do mass surveillance and they are behind a lot of these things.

1:57:29You mentioned Tony Blair Tony Blair's son is part of the digital ID but the mass surveillance that they're going to basically put in place for us those major contracts in the UK and the US has been given to Palantir. So they have contracts in terms of our medical records. They have control over all of those. NHS, they have control over the defense contracts. They have control over surveillance contracts in the UK. And they have, even in the UK, they have contracts over undisclosed contracts as well. So contracts that we can't even look at. We don't know how deep this goes, but they want mass surveillance.

1:58:03And I actually think that's the reason why they've deployed someone like Tommy Robinson to cause these riots because the world started uniting against Zionists. If you look at it, the whole world was uniting against it too. And they did a study and they said, how do we get people to go off the anti-Zionist bandwagon to get against, you know, everyone, if it's Muslims, Christians, everyone was against it, right? And they said, and the research, they did the research and what they found was, it was a study and it was a poll. And what they found is the best way to do it is to create anti-Islam propaganda and you can then get these guys to fight again.

1:58:35And so then that's what they've been deploying. And I believe that the reason for people like Tommy Robbins to be deployed is to cause these riots, to cause this destruction. And then both sides will agree to it. They'll tell the left, look, we need to stop these far right hooligans. They're going to try and smash you up. They're going to smash your windows. We need to have surveillance. Do you want these guys to be watched? And they'll be like, yeah, yeah, we want our safety. And to the right, they'll say the same thing. We want these Muslim terrorists to be stopped. Do you want surveillance?

1:59:01And they'll say, yeah. And so it's a way of creating mass surveillance. That's their objective. And so you look at these contracts That have been put in place In these countries It is for that And then our Labour government Has been put in place In order to create these tensions Because you know, isn't it That Labour in the UK Corbyn was in charge of Labour in the UK, right? He was against that He was against Israel He was against the Palestinian oppression They made false accusations Of anti-Semitism against him They made him stand down Keir Starmer was the guy They put him in power They put Keir Starmer in power Then they also had Nigel Farage, who also is a Zionist, who also propagates them.

1:59:38So they basically play on both sides. And for example, other elements are involved as well, like Russia, I do think, support Farage. For example, Alexander Dugan, who is the kind of the philosophical position of the Russian government, supports Tommy Robinson and supports Farage. So that kind of tells you how it's the Russian benefit to cause this kind of civil war as well. And so they support them. And so what you saw with the Labour was With Labour They won the vast majority of seats So they can do anything And no one can speak out Like no one can stand up against them But how did they do it?

2:00:11How did they get the majority? You know they only got 40 % of the vote They got it by Farad Splitting the Conservative vote But nearly 50 % of people didn't even vote For me I just think they're all part of the same bud You know I don't really see it What do you actually think happened to Charlie Kurt Because Charlie Kurt was very pro-Israel And then over the last couple of weeks Before his death he started speaking out against him. He says he was going to start exposing certain things. But what do you actually think is behind his death? Yeah, so I have a controversial opinion on this that both sides don't like it.

2:00:39So I'll give that answer. But just before that, in terms of the Peter Thiel thing and Palantir. So Peter Thiel, who's head of mass surveillance and Palantir, you know he controls the US president. So J.D. Vance is his guy that he put in as vice president. He made him senator for two years and then he put him as vice president and then he's going to be the new leader of the US government. And where do you think that goes in terms of Palantir and Massivella? Coming back to Charlie Kirk, I know it's a bit controversial. So I do think that Israel were involved, but I don't, but in terms of how they were involved, I don't agree with, so you've got basically the Candace Owens kind of position and then you've got the kind of.

2:01:18I've been off her as well. Why? I don't know. I just think they're all full of shit. Really? Yeah. I look at Charlie Kirk's wife. Listen, everybody deals with trauma differently, but there was a lot of stuff coming out about Romania and human trafficking. and I don't know, I just feel as if everybody who's got a certain platform that big, I think they're all controlled and I just, I listen to Candice and she's supposed to be a Christian woman, like why are you not just taking, looking after your kids, why are you not with your husband, why are you online pretending that you're fighting for people, I think it's just all about views and money if I'm completely honest and listen, I could be wrong and if I'm wrong, I will apologise, but I don't know, I used to like her but I just think now she's full of shit, I think they're all the same, I think they all work together.

2:02:01I like Candice Yeah Even though I disagree with her And And I don't I don't I mean if she's doing it for money She's doing a really bad job Because she was on a really good contract With the Daily Wire She was making a lot of money She left that And she was demonetised on YouTube And so her sole income Is through sponsors And You know people who give donations Super chats That's not a huge amount of money Patreon And Patreon yeah And her website But the point is As you know YouTube ads makes a lot of money and if you're working for like Daily Wire you're going to be making a huge amount of money so she hasn't lost money I could be wrong but just the way I'm seeing it now I just look and think I don't know man it just doesn't sit right with me with these people and the Americans are different the UK I would say the Americans are more political than the UK like there's proper left and right wing over there like it's got it here but it's very minimum because not everybody's not everybody cares here you know like not everybody votes when they play the national anthem and there's not tears Americans are patriotic they cry and they love their country and I love the Americans the one thing about the Americans they help you out there's no badness about them like they give you phone numbers yeah I know him here in the UK nobody works with each other true everybody's kind of backstabbers here I agree I kind of doing it myself now I've took a few steps back and I just want to interview people I just want to be open-minded to everything and not completely lost but for the Candice thing I don't know I hope I'm wrong yeah I used to listen to and watch her But just after Charlie Kirk got killed I don't know Everybody's moving shifty Yeah I understand what you're saying I know what you're saying And with Candace Owens So I don't agree with a lot of her positions That being said What do I think happened But at the same time I don't agree with the Israeli position as well on it So I do believe that Israel was involved And I do believe that the Mormons were involved as well And I believe that they were working together to do it And the thing with Candace Owens is she is getting some of her information from Mormons.

2:04:02So I think some of it is kind of like misguided. And so what do I mean by that? Because the Mormons are very much pro-Israel. And in Utah, there's a lot of Mormons. And if you look at many of the people who are high up in TPUSA, they're Mormons. I'm not saying they were involved or not. And then if you look at, for example, that area, for example, George Zinn, the guy who... Who's that? He's the guy who misdirected everybody when the shooting happened. He was Mormon. Tyler Robinson the shooter was Mormon Lance Briggs the boyfriend slash girlfriend of the shooter was Mormon and Mormons have very strong links to intelligence both the FBI CIA and Mossad in addition to that when I look at what happened with Charlie Kirk I do think he was very much pro-Israel and I think he supported them more than anyone else and I think he was not changing I think that what happened was in the US they were seeing that the vast majority of youth people of the people who are young were moving to Nick Fuentes and they were losing their position and so therefore he was kind of trying to move his position a lot more because he was just losing the battle with the youth everyone was moving away from him in terms of so I don't think he was ever being anti-Israel I don't hold that position but what I do think that he was against the war in Iran and I think that was a problem for the Israelis because somebody who is against the war with Iran is against the existence of Israel.

2:05:27Because without America and the UK and Europe and the Arab countries, but really America, because all these countries just follow the US, right? Without them, Iran defeats Israel in the 12-day war. You saw the amount of damage they did to Israel. And so if you don't have America, Israel ceases to exist. Israel can't defeat Iran without the United States of America. And so therefore they need them. Charlie Kirk privately went to Donald Trump and told him not to go to war with Iran. Or Donald Trump was very much thinking about it. And so him and Tucker Carlson were probably the sole voices within the Trump administration who stopped the war in Iran from happening.

2:06:08And that meant that Israel always has the threat of Iran. Now, I'm a big believer that they're going to fight with Iran sooner or later again. And they can't have that voice speaking out against Iran. And so I do think that Israel were involved. I believe that what they did was either Tyler Robinson is an actual agent or he was someone who was manipulated by the israelis through antifa or trans tifa because remember even trans tifa goes all the way back to israel through ehud barak and various other organizations and either he got manipulated by them but i think more likely is that i think some of these people were actual agents what do you think of digital id completely against it i think this is again something that has been done by the zionist lobby in order to controllers in order to see what we're doing, in order to take away our rights, to take away our freedoms.

2:06:58And again, digital ID is being done by Tony Blair and his son, but the Tony Blair Institute, you know who's the biggest funder of Tony Blair Institute? Same names again, Larry Ellison. So Larry Ellison, the same funder of, the same guy who controls TikTok now, the same guy who controls CBS News, the same guy who's about to take over CNN, Paramount, and all these different organizations is also the biggest controller of the Tony Blair Institute who is also taking control over Gaza and is, in addition to that, connected to the Tony Blair Institute in terms of the digital IDs. So why is this always going back to the same people?

2:07:34What do you think of Nick? So when he says he's went viral? Yeah, I mean, look, he's a friend of mine. And funny enough, I went to AFPAC4 which was basically an event that he holds on a yearly basis or semi-yearly basis. I was the only like British I think I was the only British guy Who was invited And obviously I'm Asian as well So Look With the right in the US What makes it unique To the right in the UK Is the UK right Is completely Zionist controlled As you've seen with the war In the right in the US It's been split down the middle You have the Zionist Israeli controlled right Which is demonstrated By people like Ben Shapiro Mark Levin And various others Dave Rubin And all the rest of them is one side, Ted Cruz.

2:08:20And then the other side is people like Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and Tucker Carlson. And there's been a great split. Now, the reason why someone like him has become popular is very simple. He speaks about Israel. He speaks about the Zionist control of the United States of America. And they have a problem with that. He's gone viral for that reason. And now what you've seen is this massive, in these last two weeks, discrediting campaign because he's become huge. When I met him in 2023, free. I met the guy that said, this guy's smart. Obviously, I respect people who are smart. And I was like, this guy's definitely going to become sooner or later.

2:08:54I do believe he's going to become the US president at some point. That's the level of power that he's wielding in terms of the level of how his popularity is increasing. And that being said, the reason they've attacked him, just think about it, it's based on jokes that he's making. It's based on jokes that he's making in the past. And if you know anything about Gen Z, they like they joke around they'll you know make racist jokes they'll make you know they don't see it as bad and this is kind of like a generational problem where he's able to speak to the youth where me and you probably wouldn't because we probably wouldn't make those to make those type of jokes and what they're seeing is that his following has increased a lot and so they're trying to basically minimize him and basically attack him but in reality like what are they trying to attack him about they call him an anti-semit but what has he said that is anti-semitic He's against the Jewish control of the United States of America In his position, I think it's a Zionist issue He thinks it's a Jewish issue We disagree with that But why is his position so bad?

2:09:56Why is it someone like Piers Morgan Who's afraid to have someone like Ozan Is willing to basically call him an anti-Semite He's saying that when I have him on his show I'm going to attack him But doesn't attack people like Douglas Murray Like Ben Shapiro Like Garth Saad Who come on his show And say that Muslims are a problem That Islam's a problem they're fine to go on Pierce Morgan's show but for some reason someone like Nick Fuentes is considered like a Holocaust denier somebody who attacks Jews and what this really is is that they want to control the conversation they're afraid that this guy speaks to the youth speaks to the fact that they're poor which is what's happening there's affordability issues and speaks to the fact that a lot of those issues are happening because of according to him Jews according to us Zionists but they're taking control of the United States of America they're no longer a sovereign country You know, if you say you're a patriot, and this is why I've got a problem with the far right in the UK.

2:10:48When you say you're a patriot, being a patriot means you're having a sovereign nation. That's the number one thing. You control your own country. If you don't control your own country, how are you a patriot? And so any of these people who don't speak about the people who are really controlling the US government or the UK government, there's huge question marks about them. But someone like Nick Fuentes is speaking clearly about the fact that this Zion is controlled. And that's the reason they're going after him. If you look at it, his popularity has increased. You look at his analysis. His analysis is very academic.

2:11:19He's a streamer. And yet they took away his... They've tried everything in their power to cancel him. Ben Shapiro tried to cancel him. And Daily Wire tried to cancel him in 2016. He had his payment process taken away. He was canceled from all social medias. I know because in 2023, I was one of the biggest advocates to try and get him back on X. And then through my advocacy and the advocacy of many others, he was then brought back on X. And since he's been back on X And since he's been allowed a platform on Rumble He's had a huge following He gets 50 ,000 live viewers on Rumble Not YouTube Rumble Because he's not allowed back on YouTube And the question mark becomes Why is it Nick Fuentes was banned on YouTube But Ben Shapiro wasn't Why was Nick Fuentes banned on YouTube But Jordan Peterson was If it's really the left that's cancelling Would they not cancel someone like Jordan Peterson Was he not talking about trans Was he not talking about pronouns would they not have been triggered more by him than anybody else?

2:12:13Yeah, he wasn't cancelled. But Nick Fuentes was. And that'll show you who really controls things. In terms of Nick Fuentes, the reason they're going after him is quite simple. He's speaking about the Zionist lobby. He's speaking about the fact that they are controlling things. And the jokes, what issue has he said, my question mark to people is, that is not being said by anybody else. And what I mean by that is, I mentioned Garth Saad, but Pace Morgan has him on. And never pushes back on him. Yeah, Douglas Murray. Pace Morgan has him on, but never pushes back on him. Penn Shapiro literally said Arabs should be in sewers.

2:12:50Arabs destroy Jews' build. Garth Saad said, there's not a problem with extremism in Islam. There's not a problem with Islamism. There's a problem with Muslims and Islam. Did Pace Morgan bring him up and call him a disgusting Islamophobe? Did he say that he's horrible, I'm going to push back on him? No, he didn't. He literally gave him an open platform and, you know, made him find, you know, make him, gave him the platform to say what he wants. What do you think of the new New York mayor? Zora Mamdani. So I went through... It actually looks... It actually looks okay. But the people who are against Muslims, we have to be honest, they've had a complete meltdown.

2:13:31They're saying the UK is going to be like the UK and this and that. But I've watched his videos. He seems a good guy. He actually seems okay. I don't give a fuck about politics. but I do get caught up in that scene when I say that I still take interest but I don't know too much about him but people have really had a meltdown people are saying we need to leave New York it's going to be bad I hope he proves everybody wrong but I don't know him so what do you think? Yeah, I'm massively involved in US politics so like I said I'm like Piers Morgan but in terms of involved in US politics vast majority of my audience is actually American and that's why I go live like 7pm Eastern which is midnight here But in terms of Zahra Mamdani, I went through a few shifts with him So initially, if you remember, he was on the podium In terms of the Republican primary Sorry, in terms of the Democrat primary Because the primary is who's going to be the candidate to stand for the Democrats In New York So he was in the Democrat primary And the presenter asked about where are you going to travel And all the candidates, despite being the New York mayor Was like, we're going to go to Israel Next one, we're going to go to Israel We're going to go to Israel Next one's like, my heart and my mind bleeds for Israel And he was like, I'm not going to go to Israel I'm going to stay in New York And that blew up And everyone was like, wow This guy's putting Americans first He's putting New Yorkers first He's not saying he's going to do his pilgrimage to Israel And standing in front of the Wailing Wall And so we all were like, brilliant We want him to win And then what happened was As time went on I kind of didn't stop liking him And the reason I stopped liking him Is because I saw some of his funding is coming from Certain left-wing Zionists and also the fact that he was kind of retracting on some of his positions you know his more his positions about Israel I think they all do that yeah I think they all do that Donald Trump as well he's going to release the Epstein files he was going to release things about JFK and these are minor you know what I'm saying well it might not be minor for his donors yeah do you know what I mean but I just feel as if they're all full of shit yeah all these people empowered to get to that level and to get in that door you've got to be dancing to their tune.

2:15:38No matter what they're saying, no matter, yeah, I'm going to be here for New York, or no matter if I'm going to Israel, or I'm pro-Palestine or I'm pro-Israel, I just think they're all getting taught what to say. Because it's all that hate. Oh, I like him, I hate her, I hate him, I like him. I just think it's all madness. Yeah, so then what happened, I agree with you by the way, and then what happened was, I then changed my position again, and I did support him. And the reason was this, because what we found was in the mayor election, people like Bill Ackman, people like the Zionist lobby, Jewish Zionists and the right-wing ones and actually various others were pushing hard for him not to be elected.

2:16:12And someone like Bill Ackman, who is a Jewish Zionist millionaire, maybe billionaire, who was a Democrat, who shifted his position to the right after October the 7th, who has, in my view, with him, Silicon Valley, big tech, with the billionaires, got Trump elected. He also got many students expelled from universities in the United States of America. He got deans of universities fired. He was choosing elections He made the Hampton visit with Charlie Kirk Where Candace Owens claims that he was pressured But he definitely did have that event Where he was training Zionist influences In order to propagate their positions The way I saw it is these people Had ultimate power And they believed that they could choose the president They could choose the deans They wielded unbridled power And so I wanted them to lose So that people had hope That people realised that actually If you're not a Zionist You can actually win elections You don't need to be controlled by them The people will choose you over them And what you saw with the elections was Mamdani won the Democrat primary And then he ran for the main election You had Mamdani as the Democrat nominee You had Curtis Silver as the Republican nominee And then Cuomo was then saying The guy who lost the Democrat primary said I'm going to run as an independent And also Eric Adams said I'm going to run as an independent They then have a conversation with Eric Adams And tell him to drop out He agrees and he drops out Because they want Cuomo to win Cuomo then goes and then they realize that Mamdani is still going to win The Republican president Donald Trump Elon Musk who is now meant to be a Republican Who should they be supporting?

2:17:53They should be supporting the Republican candidate, Curtis Silver They endorse the Democrat They endorse Cuomo Cuomo who destroyed New York Cuomo who is involved in Basically the death and murder of Basically pensioners And people who were in nursing homes In the United States of America Who did horrible during COVID Who has many of these sex allegations against them They supported him Over the Republican candidate And so that demonstrated That party politics is fake It's really about who's their guy And who's not their guy And they wanted Mamdani to lose And so when Mamdani won Which is what we wanted because we wanted all of those people to lose, it became a good thing in terms of, now if you look at US politics, you know the amount of people who came out and said, we're going to run as an anti-Zionist candidate.

2:18:41It's unbelievable. So I think the benefit in that regard outweighed the wins. Now, in terms of New York, the reason Mamdani won is affordability. He literally said, and this is the reason why there's a lot of Trump voters who voted for Mamdani because Trump also spoke for the working class. You know, like a lot of working class now are basically voting for reform because the thing like these guys are speaking for us, Which I don't believe they are I believe all of them are speaking for those in power But Trump, they believe Trump was Mamdani was saying the same thing, affordability We're going to bring rent prices down We're going to freeze rent prices We're going to bring childcare in We're going to, you know, make it easy for groceries People understood that message And because in the US people struggle really badly You know, like here, it's hard for Americans to understand how Although I love the United States of America But the poverty levels are really bad in the US Worse than here You know, like out here you see a beggar on the streets and you think, oh, it's really bad that there's a beggar.

2:19:32You go to the US and you see a homeless person and you think, wow, their level of homelessness is not just more, but even the homeless people are really struggling. Like they'll have deformities. They'll be like on drugs. They'll be shivering on the streets. It's really bad. An average American can't afford to pay for rent and groceries. If I'm traveling on Uber and I'll talk to, I'll talk to working class people in the US and obviously wealthy people. And I speak to working class people and hardly any of them have one job. Most of them have got two or three jobs. It's very hard to be a working class American.

2:20:05So Mamdani spoke to those people just like Trump spoke to those people. And I think that's where the shift is, the problem is that in the US, you don't have working class people to speak for him. In the UK, we have the same problem. There is nobody speaking for the working class. Either you're like on the left and you have to be a woke liberal. And Mamdani is a woke liberal, but that wasn't the aspect. It was the fact that he was speaking for the working class. Or you have to be on the right and you have to speak for the working class. out against minorities or Muslims or really Muslims they don't care about minorities and so that's really what it is no one speaks to the working class whereas in the US or the UK there's no political party whatsoever and that's how they're able to create division and that's really why mum Danny won.

2:20:42What makes the world a better place then because there is a lot of chaos but there is a lot of beauty but you don't think people can be divided like you think religions can live together you think yeah things can be better but what do you think makes it a better place? I think what makes it a better place is people speak to each other. People discuss ideas, speak, people understand where other people are coming from rather than people. I know I use the word far right, but I don't like using that word, but I don't know what's the best word to describe it. But giving people labels, you know, he's a far right, he's a Muslim, he's this, he's that.

2:21:13I think that's what causes harm. In reality, what people need to do is have conversations, speak about what's where, you know, how we can make the world a better place, how we can make the UK a better place, how we can make the US. Let's be clear on this. You're not going to make the UK a better place by having riots in working class areas and destroying working class areas. You make the UK a better place by standing up for the working class. And let me tell you, Labour aren't doing it, Conservatives aren't doing it, Reform are doing it. I don't think your party are going to do it because again, your party, when they came out, they were like, oh, we're going to speak for like wokeness and liberalism and all these kinds of things.

2:21:47We don't have anybody speaking for them. If you speak out for the working class, the poor people, I think that's the way you're going to have a better place. People of all religions speak. And this is why I mentioned to you, like I don't debate Christians and I don't debate people of other sects. I debate Zionists. Look, I am a debater. I do debate people. That's how I became big. But that being said, only on those issues, because I think that issue actually harms society. But anything else, I think there needs to be conversations. There needs to be ideas. People on the far right, like are afraid to speak to me because they know that I speak rationally.

2:22:17They know that I can dispel a lot of their positions. And that's why I think it's intentionally done. And this is why I give, I know you're not On the far right now I've met you But I initially thought You were right But I gave you a lot of credit Because you are speaking to people You are having these conversations You are willing to have these ideas And then we're able To break it down And I do think that people On the far right In the UK Because in the US They're willing to do so I go to the US And I get platformed By far right people All the time In the UK They're afraid And the reason they're afraid Is because I know They know their ideas Aren't as strong I will interview anyone There's a lot of people Reject coming on this podcast As well because of Who I'm connected with I've interviewed Andrew Tate, Tom Robinson, Katie Hopkins, David Dykes.

2:22:55I was interviewing these people through their cancellation. Now it's trendy to interview people who's kind of cancelled. I was taking the heat then because I understand we're all different. I could have different views and beliefs tomorrow, next week, next month. And that's okay. It's just the way we see the world. It's to have that conversation. That's why these conversations are important. The majority of stuff you say I agree with, there's a majority of facts that you're saying, I'm not the most educated. yeah i'm not the most my vocabulary is not great but i understand humans i understand we're all being programmed i understand that we can all give a little more which is the most important thing i think i think we all have the key elements of life we all know right from wrong i just think we can make bad decisions certain because we're gravitating towards what we're seeing online and the media but all in all humans are good the majority of humans just want to go on with their life the stuff you see online is a very extreme on all all aspects of life you know so i just say to people watching or listening question you question me yeah and just have your own assumption but look at all angles you know don't just follow something and not really know all the facts and figures because that's again that's why it's important for these conversations you know but like i say i respect what you do coming on here today and telling things from your side how can people message you or what's your stuff what's your social media links yeah yeah i appreciate so i'm on x it's uh sheikh suleman x i'm really big on x and also i stream on party.com what's that it's basically sounds like some fucking swinging website you're not on there shagging hookers are you doing some sort of OnlyFans what sites are listen listen it's not OnlyFans it's not controlled by Zios they don't bless that bro so it's basically an alternative to kick and twitch so it has myself on there Myron Gaines is on there sneakers I know Myron I spoke to Myron yesterday he's coming over to the UK definitely we should have him on yeah he's been on before I had him in I had when they were doing fresh and fat yeah yeah yeah years ago but we were all kind of linked at that time when we done the Andrew Tate thing yeah yeah you know but what else what is party yeah party so party.com I stream on there Monday to Friday 7pm Eastern midnight UK and then you then you can watch it back but my show is a political show so what I do is like you know what I'm speaking to you about is what I speak about daily basis whatever the news is US politics UK politics Middle Eastern politics and then I'm on YouTube where I'll put clips of my show onto YouTube and that's also Sheikh Suleiman X good on you my brother listen for coming on today thank you so much I've finally enjoyed that but we'll do like some sort of round table as well yeah just all different opinions that would be awesome you know someone from the far right maybe someone from the far left someone from other right brother it's just trying to get people together yeah so people are caught up in their own ways that they just don't want to listen to other people's and that goes left and right I've tried to interview so many from the left and they would reject but do you think do you think with the left I understand they get triggered very easily I got thrown out of a university because they thought I was too far right.

2:25:50But in terms of like with the people, I feel like I'm mentioning Tommy Roberts or not, but he's like the leader of the movement, hence why I mentioned him. Yeah, he's a massive name of a massive following. He's the leader of the kind of current movement, right? So someone like him, why do you think he's like afraid to have a conversation with someone like me or DeBeer? Or even for example, someone like Steve Laws, right? Someone I disagree with a lot. But one thing I would say about him is his position is a lot more honest compared to Tommy Robinson's because Tommy Robinson makes it look like he's for immigration, but he's not.

2:26:22He makes it look like he's for the working class, he's not. Now, I disagree with Steve Law's positions, but at least it's consistent. But I'd feel like Tommy Robinson's not. And I think that's why Tommy Robinson runs from debates, either from myself or from him or from various other people. And I think that even if it's not Tommy, but people who have the same position as him should be willing to have these conversations because then we can see how strong their arguments are. And I think that's really important. I'll ask them the question. Yeah. What do you want to have a debate? If not, why not?

2:26:50Yeah. You agree to it because I've got similar friends as Tommy as well. Like Myron, we agreed to a debate. Myron was going to moderate. He said to me, he said, wait a second. He literally said this to me. He said, he agreed to the debate. And then he said, and I said, look, I'll debate you anytime, anywhere. And then he said, look, I can't do it. I don't want to do it online. I said, no problem. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

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2:29:38Thank you very much.