The Truth About 50 Cent Shooting Supreme Jr Tells All

34:51Because even his craft, even his lyrics now, I believe it's better than he was 30 years ago. I feel as if it's underappreciated because he's been about so long. But to stay at the top, anybody who can stay at the top of the game, obviously people will disagree. That's fine. Because I think Ice Cube is class as well. Naz, one of my top five. There's so many greats out there. But the longevity of people and to still stay relevant is... people only last two to five years yeah these guys have done it for 20 and 30 years but the thing about Eminem right Eminem has only really excelled in music like yeah he I think he I believe he got an Oscar from 8 Mile but he never like really pursued rapping I mean acting like that he never was into like fashion he only he's only been successful in rap so you're saying you think he's just the best in rap or like as far as entertainment or rap I think he's the best number one number one nobody comes close to pack maybe second i think naz is there ice cube um so jay-z you wouldn't jay-z would be there yeah well when you when you based it off longevity then you would have to say jay-z right numbers m &m's had the most numbers nobody comes close yeah nobody comes close you're going to say jay-z because he's local local yeah from new york From New York?

36:12Yeah. No, but like, if we're going to assess rappers, right? So it has to be more than just numbers because Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer have fucking, they went diamond. Only for a few years, though. So you can't really just base your assessment of the numbers. Like, you have to actually break down everything. You have to do influence over culture, over pop culture. Influence, longevity, lyrics, right? You have, it's like 17 things that you can, Eminem is not over Jay-Z, bro. Because his lyrics, some of his songs is timeless. Yeah. And what about Jay-Z? No, of course, but. Eminem, Eminem has never influenced anybody.

36:53He's won more awards than anyone. He's won an Oscar. Like that's got to count for something. Eminem hasn't influenced anybody though. No, he's influenced a generation. He hasn't won more Grammys than Jay-Z or Kanye West, actually. So I don't think he has more awards. Altogether. Altogether. But for a musician, Grammys is the top thing you can win. And Jay-Z has the most Grammys. I think Eminem sold the most albums. I think he's had more number ones. He's had an Oscar. His movie was a classic as well. Yeah. He doesn't need to do fashion. He doesn't need to do acting. He doesn't need to do that shit when he's concentrated on his craft.

37:28What you're doing is looking for folks. But my personal opinion, I think no one comes close. I think Tupac as well. I think if he lived an extra 10, 20 years, he would have been number one. I think his music Still hits the spot To this day Yeah I think Like we love these old Rappers but they never They weren't consistent enough Because they only were there A few years Yeah he got killed Yeah of course But so you don't think Influence is like The most important thing That you can have No like you said You said they're 17 Yeah And I think Eminem Releases an album today Goes straight to number one He doesn't really tour Like he doesn't really I think he's Tired of the fame I think he likes to Just sit in the house He's a recluse Yeah He's a recluse for sure he doesn't want, he could put his mind to him and do anything.

38:10He could have a clothing brand tomorrow that would go number one. He's already a multi-millionaire. And I think it's his loyalty as well, how Dr. Dre, Eminem and 50 have stayed together. Even 50, when you listen to him speak, he knows he's not the king. He appreciates it's them who set him up in life and he's never forgot that. And I think that's so important. I think that's why the game fell out with them because he didn't realise. It was 50 that put them on. And that's all ego. That's all Ego. Because the game. And I love the game. What a rapper he is. Yeah, he's an amazing rapper, right? So the thing about the game is, right, he sold 5 million records, his first album, right?

38:48And on top of that, he's from the West Coast. So like, 50 kind of sort of put him on. But at the end of the day, he's still from the West Coast. And then he also had Dr. Dre. So he's not going to bow down to you just because you think you put him on. You assisted him, right? It wasn't like a full-blown, you did everything for him. You gave him a couple songs and you assisted him, but he's still so 5 million. He's the king of the West Coast at this point. You don't think his ego is going to be through the moon and be like, yo, fuck you, man. I'm doing my own thing. I don't need you. That's 92 % of people who do that.

39:24Unbelievable. His first two albums, the game was unbelievable. Classics. His first album was a documentary. Yeah. I think that's one of the greatest albums of all time for rap. It's got to be in the top 10. I think it's definitely top 10. for sure top 10 some of my other favorite ones I think Kanye has maybe two or three of the top 10 the college dropout um my dark twisted fantasy like and maybe late registration possibly but then you've got throwing eyes in there Jay-Z Doggy style you can't never forget Doggy style Snoop guys Snoop has to be in the top 10 albums uh who else maybe one of Kendrick Lamar albums I don't like Kendrick.

40:06You don't? Nah. A couple of songs, I don't think he's consistent enough. Yeah. But he's a recluse. Like Eminem. Yeah. Him and Eminem are similar in like... And Drake. I wouldn't call Drake a rapper. I don't know why. I think Drake's great. I think he's got some great songs, but he's not the same as like Tupac's. Drake, no, Drake's in my top five of rapping. Yeah. And then when you... You're still 29. Yeah, but when you say you base Eminem's... Numbers. I knew you were going to say that. Yeah, yeah. Drake. He's over there. He has better numbers than Eminem. Possibly. As a rapper though That's not fair I don't know man Maybe I'm 41 bro Yeah I grew up in fucking NWA Okay yeah I grew up with the mad Yeah yeah Eazy E Yeah yeah He was fucking nuts Love Eazy Do you know I love Eazy And the story with him And Suge Knight as well Like he was a proper gangster He was a scary bastard Suge Yeah Suge was a motherfucker man Yeah Suge I still hear stories about him To this day And just like how The mystique Just how he moved And like the people that he helped And like Just I don't know why I think they should do a movie about Suge I think they will I think they will But He was only a bouncer Or a bodyguard It's crazy And then he took over Death Row But I think there was a lot of bullying involved And it's sad to think that Tupac died skint He had no money And nobody would bear him out either I think it was Suge who bailed him out Yeah, Suge bailed him out But the thing about Tupac he was a poet, he was an actor, it was all about the arts.

41:37He wasn't a gangster. He just hung around with them, so he ended up trying to project himself as one, but he wasn't. And even when he got shot five times, I interviewed the detective, he says it wasn't even five times he got shot. It was only two, one in the groin and the finger maybe. Yeah. But he says he wasn't shot five times either. Yeah, rapping is Hollywood, so they're always going to add more to the story just to sell more records. Like, people do that all the time. people fake stuff people will create something a beef or anything just to sell more records like it's at the end of the day it's business so the code of business is to make money did your dad ever come across Tupac?

42:15yeah him and Tupac was tight no way yeah him listen yo my dad is just like Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins Propel Hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes.

43:01and more time together. Shop now at palmolive.com. Like, people laugh at me when I say crazy, outlandish stuff, but I really feel like my dad is an icon. Him and my cousin, I really feel like they're icons. Like, Snoop Dogg was in my dad's movie. Ice-T and Snoop Dogg and Clifton Powell and Tyron Turner, like, they was in my dad's first movie. Like, think about that. Snoop Dogg, who's probably the biggest, most recognizable rapper in the world, was in my dad's movie. What movie? Crime Partners. Did your dad direct that? Yeah. And Ice-T and Snoop Dogg was in the movie. He's cool with Snoop. He was cool with Tupac.

43:48Name him. Jay-Z was his best friend. Like Irv, Ja, everybody. What about Frank Lucas? Mike Tyson. What about Frank? Did they ever come across Frank? I think Frank was before his time. Was that the 70s? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think like the 60s, 70s. I think Frank was a little bit before his time. That was a great movie, American Gangster. So could you imagine how good my dad's movie would be? How crazy. And you know what's so crazy? So Jamie Foxx was supposed to play my dad in the movie. Irv was going to do the movie. And yeah, but I think Idris Elba should play my dad. I think Idris Elba would be a great supreme.

44:31Because he kind of favors him a little bit. I think more so than Jamie. That's the thing about the 50 Cent stuff. It's benefited 50 with the nine shots. But when your dad comes out, it's also going to benefit him because how big 50 is. It's a win-win for both. For both. And even in the movie, your dad's got a right to respond. So obviously, he might not even mention it, But it's still a great platform to elevate your name. Not that it needs that because everyone knows who he is. But it's a mad fucking story. I think both of them helped each other in a way. Because 50 got bigger because of his situation with him.

45:13And then when my dad comes home, like you said with the movie, it's going to be big also. Not just because of who he is and what he's done. But of the attachment and association with 50. Like, they've, they've, they, in another lifetime, in another world, they probably would be best friends. I truly believe that. Not, not in this lifetime, but like, in the next simulation or in another simulation, I think 50 and my father would be best friends probably. Because they think so similar. They so much alike. They walk the same. They talk the same. They think the same. They maneuver the same. They have the, the same aspirations of being the best, of not taking no full answer of.

45:49And my father was one of the first people to do movies. Like he did a movie in 2000. Like people wasn't doing movies back then from our culture, from our community. I think him and Dame Dash were some of the first people doing stuff like that. Like just the way he thinks. My father owned a beauty salon, barbershops, a cab stand. He had his own satellite company. Like the way they think is just so far beyond what normal people in the realm of normalcy is just crazy. So I think him and 50 are very much like-minded. Both what else? Both winners for sure. What about P. Deaddy and Biggie? What about him?

46:27Did they know them? Yeah. Biggie said, he said, my team supreme, stay clean. You feel me? Like, there's a lot of references from the Biggies, the Jay-Z. Yeah, Diddy, of course, Diddy. I think Diddy is, like, enamored by gangsters. His dad was a gangster? His dad was a gangster. But, you know, he never met his dad. I think his dad, Dom, is, like, one years old. So, Diddy, he loved street culture and gangsters. So, of course, he's from New York, and he's 50-something years old, so of course he knew who my dad was. And I'm sure him being... my dad being cool, Irv, I'm sure they encountered each other a couple times, um, Diddy and my pops, for sure.

47:03I'm sure they partied together. Not, like, how he partied. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not how he... not how he parties, but, like, at a party, like, in a club, so I'm sure they crossed paths. Yeah, but I heard that there was a good guy back in the day. Diddy? He never used to drink, take drugs. people say power yeah he used to say he used to go after people's ex-girlfriends oh he was bad for that but he never used to take drugs he got addicted to drugs i think he had a bad fall or he's back and he get pharmaceutical drugs and then it kind of made them crazy that's that's how that's how it is always a combination of things that drive somebody to where they're like borderline crazy but you're but but it's powered power drunk you get power crazy like when you when you're a billionaire and you feel like everything can get swept under the rug or you can pay to get out of a situation like you almost like you're thinking about yourself as invincible but diddy's one of the people like you can never take away his business acumen or like his accomplishments and his accolades like you know sometimes in the world or in business whether it's wall street whether it's real estate whether it's the entertainment business you got to step on people.

48:16You got to crush your people that you're going against or your oppositions or your competition. You got to crush them. So when people say like, oh, Diddy did anything to win? He did anything to do this and he did anything. That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to do anything to win. If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. That's one of my favorite things, funny things to say when I'm playing a board game or when I'm going up against somebody in competition. If you're not cheating, you're not trying. And if you don't want to be the best, why are you even doing it? Diddy always wanted to be the best.

48:49Another person with his work ethic. He just has that work ethic. So like, I don't really get caught up into like all the negative stuff that people say about Diddy because yeah, oh that's true but everybody was loving him two years ago. Before we knew about Cassie and we knew about all the stuff that he was doing allegedly like everybody loved Diddy. He just got the fucking key to the city. Five months before that shit when Cassie came out, Mayor Adams gave him the key to the city. He had just got an award at the VMAs or whatever award show that was. We was all loving him. And that's the same thing with Donald Trump too.

49:23Everybody hates him now, but before he became president, everybody loved him. So I'm not one of those people that just keep flip-flopping. I love you one day. I hate you the next day. I love you. No, I'm going to stay. If I liked Donald Trump before he was a president, I'm still going to like him. I might not agree with everything that he says or that he does, but I still like him i still like diddy i don't agree with everything he says or he does but i'm a fan i like diddy i had the punisher on yesterday he was the sex worker who used to go and fuck cassie well did he used to play with himself behind him he used to wear a mask yeah did he would it would not come close to him he wasn't gay he wasn't he was just fucking masturbating while he was getting shagged like him but he says they were fine there was no badness like he never called any of the prostitutes He never phoned him He never messaged him It was all Cassie Yeah So if anything It was Cassie Who should have got done So he had four charges So I was always against Eddie Because when I seen the videos Of like Justin Bieber And He was only like 14 I thought that's very creepy But then there was only four charges And then I have a good source Who says he was going up against Sorok Who came to a lot of money I think Diageo Yeah It came to a lot of money I think it was hundreds of millions And then that's when all the allegations come out a bit get him listen the cassie stuff is is disturbing it's terrible but they out of court settlement 20 million dollars it was finished but then she's come back again but she's had her part to play in it because that's what that punisher said he says listen cassie was loving it she wasn't forced it was her it was phoning me she was doing her thing with me and there the papers have made him like he is a bit of a creepy bastard but what he does indoors has got nothing to do with anybody Nothing.

51:04You know? If you didn't force anybody to do anything, they was in compliance, you've done nothing wrong. If somebody lets you put a broomstick in their fucking asshole, if they say, yes, I want the broomstick in my asshole, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Was his mom a prostitute? I don't think so. Yeah, someone told me she was a prostitute. I think I heard something like his mom was like a madam. like she ran like the prostitutes yeah yeah I think she was like a madam or something don't quote me but allegedly I think his mom was like a madam or something like that back in the days and he lost his dad and I think she used to get fucked when he was in the bedroom really yeah oh I never heard nothing like that that's kind of crazy yeah so he's obviously got his own demons how did the beef with 50 and Jarul start what is the true story behind all that the the issue with him is um So Ja Rule had got robbed.

52:06With the chain? Of the chain. And the guy who robbed him, Troy Casey from Baisley's, from my father's neighborhood, the place that my father was doing his thing. And, you know, if somebody robs you, right, and then you see me talking to the guy that robbed you and, like, dapping him up, having a drink with him, and you're still mad about being robbed. Just because you got your shit back, you're still like, he tested your manhood so you feel some type of way forever. You would be mad at me too because you see me talking to this guy so you don't know if I set it up. You don't know if I had anything to do with it.

52:45You don't know if I told him to do it. You don't know what's... Your mind starts playing tricks on you sometimes when you don't know. So he's seen 50 talking to the guy and I guess later on, 50 tried to go up to him and dap him up. He's like, fuck out of my face. You just talking to the nigga that robbed me. Why am I going to be cool with you? Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade electrolytes. This episode is brought to you by Palmolive.

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53:59From athletic to athletic-ish, Sierra's got it. And then there's also competition. 50 looked at him as his competition. Like Ja Rule was the biggest artist in the world when 50 was coming up. And this guy's from 10 blocks from Queens. Oh, that's my competition. I hate him. Let's go. I'm going to go at him. That's all it was. When you're the top person, everybody wants to come after you. And 50 just was one of the people that went after Ja. Ja was the top guy. And it just so happened that Job was cool with Preem, and Preem was from 50s neighborhood. And then, like, it's just the storyline is crazy, man.

54:32But it's all ego. Who is Preem, for people who don't know? Who is he? No, Prince, sorry. Prince. So Prince is my dad's nephew. He's my cousin, my dad's nephew. And he ran the Supreme Team when my dad went to jail in the 80s and the 90s. So he was, like, second in command. because Eminem got involved with the the Jarryl thing Eminem yeah because he's on 50 yeah he's on 50 side yeah he's on 50 side so of course that's what I'm saying when you draw your line in the sand you're either on this side or you're on this side the people that play the middle are normally the people that that get it the worst so when that line is drawn in the sand you either got to be on on one side or the other so me a lot of people feel like oh you you misspoke or you talk out of turn or you shouldn't be involving yourself in that or you shouldn't be doing this.

55:26No, the line in the sand was drawn. My dad is on one side. Murder Inga's on one side. John Rule's on one side. All these people are on this side. So I'm on this side, right? I'm not going to play the middle and be politically correct with everything that I'm trying to say when somebody asks me a question about 50 because the whole entire world thinks that I give the interviewers the questions and make you guys ask me about 50. No, I don't make anybody ask me about 50. It's just like when you interview the game, they're going to ask him about 50. When you interview Ja Rule, they're going to ask him about 50.

55:59When you interview somebody and they have an attachment to somebody, the question is going to come up. I cannot ever do an interview in my life where they're not going to ask me about my father or 50. I don't give the guys the questions, but I chose my side. I was loyal to my father, loyal to his friends, and I went against 50. That's just all I know. That's all I know. Some people say, yo, you shouldn't have said anything. Some people say, you shouldn't have said anything. You shouldn't have said anything. Blah, blah, blah. Hindsight is always going to be 20-20. I did what I did. I got to live with it.

56:31Yeah, because I think Jay-Z or Irv Gotti had done an interview and they heard 50 Cent, it's album. And they thought, shit, this guy's coming. I think Jay-Z called it before his album dropped and says, listen, we need to get working. But when they started firing to Murder Inc., they never really recovered. Murder Inc.? Yeah, Jarrell never really recovered. It was because of the case, too. Because remember, they was fighting the case. Murder case. Yeah, they was fighting the money laundering case. Simultaneously, as Fiddy's growing, as he's getting stronger, he's not only beefing with them, but they also beefing with the feds because they got the case.

57:09The case went on for like four years. Millions of dollars for their lawyers to beat it. So it's kind of like they was fighting entities at one time. You get what I'm saying? But they always had money, though. Ja and Irv always was good. It's never like they were starving for money. It's just some... It comes some periods of time in your life where, you know, you can't spend how you used to spend, but that doesn't mean you don't got it anymore. You just got to be more safe for how you're spending. Because the petting is so 50. He, when Ja Rule had a concert, 50 bought the front row seats. Like that.

57:41I don't even believe that shit happened. It's funny, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it is funny. But if you look at Ja's shows, all his shows are sold out. Not stadiums, though. He's still touring. Yeah, but not stadiums. I mean, I don't think everybody can do a stadium alone. I think only Eminem could. Here you go, this Eminem shit again, man. I tell you, bro. Remember, I'm down the middle, bro. Drake can do a stadium. Kendrick? No, after the Drake beef. Kendrick's elevated himself through that song. What about NBA Youngboy? I think NBA Youngboy can do stadium. Yeah, yeah. Young boy yeah Yeah But like But there's so many Even Lil Wayne in that's great as well Like I loved his music Lil Wayne's my favourite rapper Lil Wayne and Jay-Z are my favourite rappers Unbelievable His collabs with 50s Eminem Yeah Just fucking class Yeah I thought someone told me he was dying A few years ago with cancer Who?

58:35Lil Wayne Really? Yeah No Bullshit Yeah he's not dying of cancer Because He's Drake's manager Is that correct? No he's not Drake's manager So Drake was signed to Young Money. Young Money is Lil Wayne's label, but he's not signed to them anymore. I think he fulfilled his contract and now he's doing his own thing. So I think he just got to deal with Universal. But Cash Money and Young Money was underneath the Universal umbrella. So now once he fulfilled his contract to Young Money and Cash Money, now he's just completely just, I think his OVO is just signed with Universal. Like he's good. He doesn't have no big homies, but Universal is his big homie, but like not Lil Wayne anymore.

59:13but they're still brothers though they're still brothers because Lil Wayne helped him Lil Wayne the same thing that Fiddy did for the game, Lil Wayne did for Drake Yeah it's unbelievable though how these people actually go to superstardom it's crazy like how high they go in life and the popularity and the money and the influence over the world is just crazy Did you ever see them slipping though when the money goes to their head like there must have been a lot of unknowns who should have made it but never got to the heights You say sure to have? I feel like he would have been a major figure in Hollywood, my dad.

59:49Because he had both the rights to Donald Goins. Donald Goins is an author. And he publishes and makes a lot of books for people that's incarcerated, like the folks, the stories and stuff like that. And my dad had licensed six books to make into movies. And then he had Murder, Inc. back in him. He had Universal back in him. he had like he had like the whole plan the 10 year plan set up he was going to be like the biggest director one of the biggest directors in the game and then life happens in the most unexpected time and then you know you're in jail for the next 25 years but I think they will make a move if you're bad if you've done one with Frank Lucas but Denzel Washington some actor did you ever see The Hurricane?

1:00:33No I never watched The Hurricane about the boxer I heard of it though was Denzel in that too? Yeah so he was the world champion boxer and then he got set up for a murder and it wasn't him and then Denzel played his part unbelievable movie Denzel I think Denzel is the greatest actor ever I would say top 5 you know what matter of fact it's like him he's tied with two other people I would say Al Pacino and probably Leonardo DiCaprio Cap who's up there yeah Denzel Jack Nicholson I never really got into that whole Jack Nicholson thing but One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is one of the greatest movies of all time you need to watch it I'm gonna go watch it tonight what is it called?

1:01:12One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest yeah so he pretends to be insane to get a lighter sentence and gets put into a mental institute is that the movie where he's like here's Johnny no that's the hotter one I think that's the shining but One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and you'll see he'll understand he has range you think he has range yeah really? yeah because he's done The Departed and A Few Good Men with Tom Cruise was an unbelievable movie but Denzel he's one of my favourites unbelievable Yeah, I think Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Pacino, and Denzel. Leonardo, he doesn't really miss. All his movies are top.

1:01:44Amazing. Top eight, top nine out of ten. Amazing. Will for Wall Street, even the love stories of Titanic. Yeah. The Departed, Shutter Island. I've never seen Shutter Island. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. DiCaprio has range. His range is out. And then, but you know, Samuel L. Jackson has the highest grossing out of all of them. All the time, yeah. He's grossed more than all of them. As far as box office money that he's made from his movies, he's number one, I think. Yeah, I don't think he's ever, I don't think he started acting until the late 30s, 40s. It's crazy. It's crazy. You like John Travolta as an actor?

1:02:16It's a bit gay for me, you know, like Grease and Saturday Night Fever. Because I think Pulp Fiction elevated them. I think they only get$5 ,000 or$10 ,000. Because these stars in the 60s and 70s, it's hard to then kick on. But that revised their career again. Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta. Pulp Fiction was unbelievable What's your favourite Gangsta movies of all time? You've got Well you've got Goodfellas You've got Goodfellas Carlito's Way Scarface But The Godfather Godfather 1, 2 and 3 But for me it was Not a long Good Friday It's Al Pacino It's Robert De Niro It's the four kids From the Bronx Bronx Tale?

1:03:05Bronx Tale is a great movie as well um but once upon a time in america i've never seen that we need to watch that bro yeah you gotta give me a list of all the movies you want me to watch man classic bro it made it all the way over there yeah yeah we've got all the big movies over there y 'all got netflix and stuff right yeah we don't live in the ice ages bro it was it was something it was something that i was talking to one of my friends from from where you're from and it was something i think was It's something that we have over here that y 'all don't have. I got it confused. Maybe it's not none of the movie stuff, like the Hulu.

1:03:41You have Hulu. Nah, Netflix, Amazon. See, that's what it was, so it might have been Hulu. But you guys don't have Cash App either, though. Like how you send money to people? Apple Pay. And what about PayPal? No, we just do bank transfers and PayPal. Okay, okay, yeah. So y 'all don't have Hulu and Cash App. But once upon a time in America, Kalito's Way was a classic. Casino was good. The casino was good. I think whenever Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci's together, you can't miss. But the Irishman was shit. I watched that. You didn't like it? Nah. It was just too long. Yeah, I don't like it. And because they were using CGI, when they were trying to kick the person, it was all computerized, but it looked dead slow.

1:04:21I think they've obviously passed it, but they've gave us so many great years of entertainment. You got to watch my dad's documentary. Have you seen it? No. You got to watch it. My cousin just put it up on YouTube. Yeah, the supreme truth. when did you first fire a shot to 50 cent when did you first do a video I think my first video ever I did was about him. I think Al Prophet, I did an interview with a guy named Al Prophet about 10 years ago, my first interview. And of course he asked me because that's the story. It's Supreme vs. 50. That's the story. You can't get away from it. I cannot get away from that.

1:04:59And I wish people would stop telling me like, yo, you got to stop talking about 50. This is impossible. Unless I just don't never do an interview again, then you'll never hear me talk about him again. But like if I sit down with a camera and a microphone in my face, the interviewer is going to ask me about 50. It's a given. But yeah, like 10 years ago, I did an interview with Al Prophet. That was my first one. And it's just been like, it's just been that ever since. So 50's son, did you get a photo with him? So not, and I know you're doing your job, you're doing this, you're interviewing. You have to say it and put it and work things a certain way.

1:05:33But like a lot of the times when I'm doing an interview, people say, oh, your dad got him shot. Your dad did this, your dad allegedly... And the government, if they keep hearing interviewers say that, it just puts this stigma on my dad, where he's never been convicted of that. And they even try to put the Jam Master Jay thing on my dad too. Jam Master Jay got killed. They always try to put something on my dad, something that has something to do with somebody getting shot or somebody getting killed, and he's never... Like, it's just, it puts a bad light on him. Like, he already has a bad light on him, but they're just turning up the voltage or the lighting on it.

1:06:13And it's just like, it's putting a microscope on things that didn't even exist. So it's kind of like he's fighting a ghost. He's fighting ghosts, but allegedly, whatever happened between, transpired between him and 50, and then me taking the picture with 50's son, it was just like the headline. Remember how earlier we was talking about, like, the movie script and, like, the storylines and all that stuff? Like that's another storyline. Meet this guy who's enemies with this guy. They two sons are together. So I seen him in a club one night. Somebody was doing a performance and we just happened to be in the same room.

1:06:44This is the first and last time we've ever been in the same room. And, you know, one of my guys made us take a picture. I didn't know who he was. He didn't know who I was. Like I was, how the hell am I going to know who this kid is? He's a nobody. And I was a nobody also. So we didn't know who each other was. And it just so happens that I released the picture two years later. I sent it to one of my friends that has like an Instagram page dedicated to like nostalgic pictures of all the drug lives in kingpins. And I sent it to him like, yo, look at this. He's like, yo, do you care if I post this?

1:07:16And I was like, no, you can post it. He posted it and that shit was on TMZ in four hours. And I'm like, oh shit. Like that was like my first taste of virulness and like going viral. and then after that it's just always been like everything that I do in the media it's been like you know viral that is a heavy photo though it was that doesn't matter what way you look at it friendship met the guy once it's the storyline yo and it could have been interpreted 30 different ways I could have made him take the picture we could have been cool we could have been trying to troll our fathers like it's just so many like that's why I just blew up like that And then, you know, 50 left a comment underneath the picture like, if these two kids get hit by a bus, I will have a great night's sleep.

1:08:03And then that just amplified it even more because the picture was already going viral. And then when he commented, it was just like, holy shit. Yeah, that was like a crazy moment in time. Yeah, because 50 seems very petty. Very. But he's so calculated in how he operates. It's crazy. and to go up against him, there's not many people actually go up against him. I think a couple of people are firing shots back now. I think a lot of people are scared because of the lengths he would go. Look what he's doing with the Diddy stuff. I think Diddy, I don't know if this is the main reason, but I think 50's ex-partner, I think Diddy then started sleeping with her.

1:08:43I think he was filling her up with drugs and getting other people to do mad shit. His baby mother. Yeah. So the level of pettiness that he has is just like out of this world because they've been having like little back and forth like 20 years so you waited until this guy goes to jail to do a documentary on his life about him going to jail about everything that he does like that that level of pettiness is just crazy it's crazy but you have to crush your opponent in the 48 Lords of Power you have to crush your opponent. And Diddy is his opponent, so he had to crush him. So you can look at it from two different ways.

1:09:24You can look at it as him being calculating, or you can look at him as him being petty. However you choose to look at it is how you choose to look at it. But when you have an opponent, when you have a competitor, you got to crush him. We can be friends after we're done competing against each other, but I got to crush you now. What did you think of that documentary? Did you see it? I feel like when people are trying to paint a narrative of you, I feel like it's only going to be bad things in the dark. And like I said, that's not how I choose to remember or how I choose to think about Diddy. I choose to think about him as him taking brands and blowing them up.

1:10:00What he did with Ciroc, what he did with Sean John, what he did with the artists that came. He made people around him stars. If you didn't have your business right, if you didn't read the contract over, if you chose to still sign whatever he wanted, that's on you. He told you, I'm going to give you fame. I'm going to keep all the money, but I will give you fame. So whatever you choose to do with your fame is on you. He had people like French Montana. French Montana is still lit right now. He was signing Diddy. Why Diddy didn't screw him over? It's like the narrative that people just try to pin on you and try to kick you when you're down, I'm not a fan of that.

1:10:34Why do you think he's being targeted then? I just think that every time you get to a certain level, you can't stay there forever. You just can't stay there. everything has everything has its expiration date so you can be on top of the world for 20 years 30 years but you got an expiration date and that's just what it is this was just his time what about the meek stuff? the meek mill stuff? yeah what about it? did you hear that video? which video? the video when it looks as if the fucking somebody's getting fucked right in their ass man that wasn't meek was it not? that's not meek man but it shows you how the media operates.

1:11:14The media is sick. That video was nuts, bro. Is that video real? It's only audio, but it's real. But with all the AI shit going on in the world, we don't know what's real. We don't know what's fake. And I feel like the media tries to assassinate Meek also. I feel like Meek, he's a great rapper. He's a great entertainer. He does his thing. I don't know why. When you piss the media off, they're just going to come at you. They got an agenda. They got a narrative that they're trying to paint. I don't think Meek did no crazy shit. that that's crazy it's crazy yeah that's fucked up though but i'm you talking about with all the sounds and oh yeah yeah that's that's some a that's some ai shit man meek meek ain't do no shit like that man do you know him meek yeah yeah yeah yeah i know i know i know meek i know meek we've seen each other a couple times he's always in new york what about the have got his stuff when he passed away in 50 fired shots at that also He's like He's relentless He's relentless He's relentless I mean One thing about him He's true to who he is He's not going to change He's a troll He's a relentless troll And he's not going to change So it's almost like You've got to applaud somebody That's being true to who they are He's being true to who he is He's trolling He's not through hatred Though it's through business I listened to his audio book and it's one of the best motivational books I have ever listened to.

1:12:40He knows the four, he loads the power to the T. And it's a great listener, great read for anyone about business. It talks about how to come from, and he even gives Diddy's props to saying Diddy's came back from losing his biggest star, basically nearly going to prison. Like Diddy's lost it so many times and pulled it back as well. He actually gave him his props in that book as well. So I'm surprised he's then went and fired so many shots and took it to levels that, like the documentary commentary stuff I think wow like when you're at the top when when three people are at the top and all three of them want the number one spot they're all gonna go at each other who do you think the biggest is in New York I would say Jay-Z how Jay-Z he's the king I mean remember how we was talking earlier about reinventing yourself and being successful and different it's nothing that Jay-Z has done that he hasn't been successful in from liquor companies to wine companies to music, the clothes.

1:13:38I mean, he has Beyonce. Jay-Z, he just got it, bro. He just got it. He's fly. He got the charisma. He was really in the streets back in the days. I don't think nobody from New York is iller than Jay-Z. I just can't say that nobody from New York is iller than him. What about Nas? Was he ever in contact with your dad? Nas and my cousin are really cool, actually they're really close prince and nas are really close uh nas wrote prince a letter like when he went before the judge to come home nas wrote him a letter like saying like yo this guy is he's rehabilitated you know i'm gonna give him a job when he comes home like nas wrote a letter for my cousin to come home so like i always tip my head off to nas i'm always going to salute him he's a he's a cool dude mad down to earth mad cool i rock with nas that's Nas is good people He's a legend He's an icon He was the first to really He's an icon Properly do it from New York Yeah he's Definitely Definitely Well I mean I don't know If you would say that Or rock him Yeah But I think Nas's popularity He went global Yeah I think early 90s 90s Yeah for sure And I think Nas His name is also In the range of like Being the king of New York Like quote unquote Like Nas definitely has A dog in a fight with that For sure Because you know he has he's opening up the casino.

1:15:00He has his investments. He invested in Ring, camera, Uber and all that stuff. So he's definitely up there with like, as far as like being the king of New York. And, and you know, you know, so crazy, those guys probably don't even care about that title, but like Jay, I think Jay, I think Jay got it for sure. So what about big Meech and Jimmy Henchman? Um, so

1:15:23it's, it's crazy, man. So Jimmy Henchman is like one of the biggest, like, uh, notorious people from New York. And he's also had issues and situations with the rapper guy. And, um, yeah, Jimmy's just, he's, he, he, he, he's different, man. He's a, he's a different, he's a different breed. And, um, the whole thing with Meech, um, I had, I had did some shirts. I had put it on a Live in Legends shirt together, a graphic t-shirt with my dad and Big Meech, like, on the shirt. and then I took that and gave it to Big Meach's brother and then like that went viral and you know 50 had something to say about that too for me going to go see Southwest T and he wasn't like he wasn't happy about that yeah because anybody who attaches themselves to me I guess he's going to say something about them that's just him trying to crush me completely I guess the 40 loads of power but that must be good for business for few if he's riding shorts Of course.

1:16:29Of course. Like, I would utilize it to my full gain. Why wouldn't I? I wouldn't be here in front of you if I didn't, you know, like, it's a gift and a curse. More gift than curse, but it's a gift and a curse. But do you do that to poke the bear as well? Absolutely. To get videos and photos and T-shirts with enemies of him? Why not? And I wouldn't even say enemies because nobody died. It's not real. It's all entertainment. That's what people have to focus this whole life on. If we're in this entertainment business, it's not just a business. It's not just for the stuff that you like, but it's entertainment.

1:17:07All of this shit is entertainment. None of it is real. It's all an illusion. And that's why I think people get lost in it. They buy into the character so much that they forget that it's only for entertainment. So when I do stuff, I don't have no malice behind what I do. I don't want to see 50, I don't want to see him hurt, dead, whatever, and in jail, none of that. It's entertainment. You guys are here to be entertained. You do a podcast to entertain people. That's all it is. He does stuff to entertain people. He gives people to talk about it. I'm surprised, though. It hasn't started some sort of mini war because of.

1:17:43This has went further than that online beef. The 50, like with documentaries, it's went deeper than that. I've never seen a level of that. Listen, diss tracks back in the day when Ice Cube done No Vaseline and like EZ, that for me is one of the best diss tracks ever. Yeah. And that's what I remember sort of rap is. But now it's became deeper, it's became more personal. It's people's lives, people going to prison. Like what happened to just doing a diss track and then moving on? Now it's got making Netflix documentaries like that. That for me is the next level. I think that's going to be the new thing.

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1:20:51What was the video you done about Irv Gorty? Try to back him for the funeral. You done a video, no? And then your dad done a... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so, so, um, the 50 said something about Irv passing. And, you know, I went and said something about 50, and then my father just had enough. And he was just, he made a video where he was like, I don't agree with anything my son does on the internet and like that's you know I'm not gonna talk to him unless he gets off the internet and I understood what he meant because like I sometimes I do lose my mind on the internet and I do a little bit too much and um I made my video in response to that to like kinda mellow things out and yeah that's what that was.

1:21:44It put us back in a good space, though, because he didn't expect me to do that. He thought I was going to crash out and say some crazy shit. But, you know,

1:21:55maturity. It all goes back to maturity. And I don't have an ego with my dad. You can't, because he'll be 10 steps ahead. And he doesn't understand this new level of pettiness. Back in the day, the way people dealt with things was you have the meat. And if it goes further than that, then people are getting took out. Back in the day they never had social media They never spoke on phones Now people are just telling their whole life stories on camera It's changed days Doesn't mean it's right But things have changed And I think you've got to have that element of respect for your dad Because he's stuck in the kind of 25 years ago You know he's not seen the elevation of the way this world is operating And how people beef with each other You know because as soon as you beef with somebody As soon as you put it online If anything happens to them You're number one target you're the number one to be ripped in by the police.

1:22:43And I think that's where he was coming from, from that. He's like a real gangster. So like, he doesn't want to get on the internet and do none of this stuff that he's not used to. Like you said, it's about me looking you in your eyes, having to meet with you, and if we have a problem, we're going to handle it. It's not like that on the internet. We going back and forth on the internet, trolling each other. What about Dame Dash? Has he got a good relationship with your dad? I wouldn't say great He does have a relationship with my dad Because like all of them They all was Murder Inc. and Rockefellers on Def Jam And my dad was with Irv And Murder Inc.

1:23:20on Def Jam That's how he got cool with Jay-Z and Dame Dash So yeah Dame told me a couple stories Of him and my dad He's cool with my dad He got a lot of respect for my dad He showed me a lot of love When I went and met up with him I get a lot of love from a lot of the people That's in the industry off the back of my father because my father was always good to them. So they, in turn, are being good to me. One hand washed the other, they both washed their face. Dame's a good God, though. Rock with Dame. So what sentence did your dad actually get? He got sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.

1:23:59And how many convictions? How many would they actually get charged with? I think racketeering and murder. and what about your cousin who just got released so my cousin um he was only charged with the rico yeah he he and you know so crazy he got sentenced like four life sentences for the rico he and you they over sentenced him that's why he was able to come home because you can't over send somebody just for selling drugs and he didn't he beat all his murders so that's why he was able to come home from the second step act something i think it's called the first step act or the second that where you can't, a certain guideline that you can sentence somebody on based off drugs.

1:24:38And he met the criteria, like they over sentenced him for selling drugs and then he was able to come home. So where do you go forward with Shubh Foto? Is it possibly your dad will ever get out? Absolutely. I feel like it's always, it's always going to be a fighting chance. Cause you know, laws, laws change all the time. Presidents pardon people all the time. If, if, if the case gets big enough or against in front of enough ears, against in front of enough faces, how he was railroaded at his trial. They wouldn't let him testify. And his lawyers were working with the government. And then the people that testified against him were incredible.

1:25:11That's why I said you got to watch the Supreme Truth. It was just a railroad case. They just wanted him and they did everything they could to get him. And he's been in jail since 2002. So everything is in his favor. He's done enough years in jail where he would be able to come home on certain technicalities or the law is changing. You get what I'm saying? So yeah, I definitely think he has a hell of a fight to come home. But we got to get bigger names to like advocate for him. Like it's not going to, it's not, once the media grabs a hold of certain things, then everybody starts talking about it.

1:25:46And then you need like three or four big names to associate or attach themselves to what's going on. So if like a Jay-Z or like a Mike Tyson or one of those people, they speak up about it, I think it'll be put in front of Donald Trump, and then Donald Trump will be able to go over his case and see if he's going to pardon him or not. How many people has Donald Trump already pardoned? He has, like, a lot, actually. Some of those people from the Capitol, that stormed the Capitol, he pardoned them. Some people from his cabinet, he pardoned them. He pardoned a couple... He's pardoned a lot of people.

1:26:18He's pardoned a lot of people, so that's why I'm saying it. It's likable. It's probable. What about your own trolling, where you just keep back and forth sometimes where you ever take a little break? I think I'm done with it. I think I'm done with the troller. I've done that for 10 years. Yeah, I've been trolling for 10 years. So I think it's time to close that chapter and move on to the next chapter more. This chapter of my life is like the business chapter, like me opening businesses, me getting into film, me doing my own podcast, me launching the clothing line, relaunching it because I already had the clothing line already.

1:26:54I wouldn't put, had the varsity jackets, the hoodies, the, so it's just business. I'm, I'm focused on business and, and getting millions of dollars. You can't really troll and get millions. You have to get the millions and then you're allowed to troll. You can't flip flop it, you know? Yeah, no, you've got to be at that level first before you can start talking bollocks. Yeah. Like, like you said the other day, the fuck you money. Yeah. I got to get the fuck you money before I can say fuck you. I can't say fuck you if I don't got the money. You feel me? Yeah. so how is life like now then like like you say what's the big plans then is that what you want to do acting yeah yeah for sure i'm gonna go to film school probably like may but until then i'm gonna be doing doing interviews podcasting i'm gonna relaunch the clothes like i said and i help other people that have their brands or like musicians i help musicians get with this producer get with that do this for the album and i'm just a businessman i hustle i like i like you said our our phone books and our contact list is crazy so you know we might get a call one day and make thirty thousand dollars just from putting up a deal together or play together so like that's that's my life man story of my life my phone rings and i put a situation together and i get i get money yeah but the connections your dad would be able to put you on to as well and sometimes you don't really want to get help from anyone as you get too much ego want to do it with herself but you've got to utilize that phone book you've got to utilize that connection to your advantage And I think all of my contacts, they love me because I don't call them every day.

1:28:21When you annoy celebrities, they block you or they'll never talk to you again. And I understand it because I'm like a celebrity on a lower scale than they are. So all the people that be calling me, asking me for favors or for help, I can just imagine to the 10th power how they get it. So I'll just text them randomly, like, yo, I'm just checking on you, just calling the salute. You say thanks for you helping me or you doing this or you doing that. I keep it real short, simple, and sweet. And they appreciate that because I'm never calling them, asking them for nothing. So when I do call them an action for something, they do it for me because I don't nag them.

1:28:54You can't nag people because that shit is annoying. And I understand that. How's your cousin adjusted to life after 30 years? Beautifully. Effortlessly. It's almost like he never was away. And it blows my freaking mind that he has adapted and adjusted to this life so easily. It literally, I cannot fathom how he does it. Like, he's normal. Can you imagine somebody doing 35 years and being normal? People that do three years come home on K2, on drugs, shot out, crazy, suicidal. This guy is normal. It blows my mind how normal he is after doing 35. And the feds. He wasn't in state prison. He's in the feds.

1:29:38That shit blows my mind. What's that? That he's just so normal. The feds? Yeah, that he did all that time in the feds and he came home and he's normal. What prison is your dad in? He's in Beaumont, Texas. He's in Texas right now. How far is that away? Driving or like, yeah, probably like 30 hours, 35 hours. Could he not go a bit closer to New York or is he wanting? When you're in the feds, you don't really want them in New York. The feds is like the weirdest place in the world, like fucking Colorado or Kentucky or like Pennsylvania, like Idaho, Nebraska. Like when you're in the feds, they put you in the weirdest places.

1:30:19Yeah, that's fucked up, isn't it? Yeah. But your dad's okay and he might get out soon then. You got to be optimistic. You got to approach life with optimism. You can't never be a pessimist. I learned that from a kid. My baseball coach told me that. That's one thing. Like everybody that's entered my life, I always take one thing away from them and just utilize it in my own way. But my baseball coach always said, When you go to at bat, when you go up to bat, do you tell yourself that you're going to strike out or do you tell yourself you're going to hit the ball? You have to approach life like it's a sport, like it's baseball.

1:30:53Every time you get put with a task in front of you, you got to always tell yourself to knock out the park. It's being an optimist, being an optimist. Because when you tell yourself you're not going to hit it, you're not going to hit it. You already failed before you even started. So I'm not a negative thinker. I'm always positive affirmations, positive reinforcements, positive thoughts. how do you start on your go no whatever you whatever you think is what you become so if you're a negative thinker negative shit gonna happen to you if you're a positive thinker positive shit gonna happen to you that's just life how do you think things would be when your dad gets out instant millionaire i think the day he walks out of prison he's going to be an instant millionaire i think he's going to change people's lives i think he's getting back into the movies he's going to do everything that he was supposed to do before you know i told my cousin he lived three lives, my cousin.

1:31:39So he lived his life when he was a kingpin in the 80s. Then he lived his life when he was incarcerated for those 35 years. And now he's living another life now coming home. So he lived three lives in one lifetime. And also for my dad, he lived his life as a kingpin in the 80s and the 90s. He was with Murder, Inc. He lived that life. He's in car. So my dad's living four lives. A lot of people don't even fulfill and live their one life. And these guys are living three and for different lives. So that's like amazing in itself. But he's definitely coming home. How many people did they say used to work for your dad?

1:32:13Has there been hundreds? It was hundreds. Because it was one worker that had they 10 workers that had 10 workers that had five workers. So like it was like a family tree. It was like a pyramid scheme. He was at the top of a pyramid. And you know, when you have a pyramid scheme, it could be 700 people there and they all worked indirectly for you. So it was hundreds of people. There is photos out there. It does look like a scary fucker. I think he's got green eyes. They always talk about his green eyes. There's a couple of mug shots and you think he does look crazy. Yeah, because you don't really typically see a dog skin guy with green eyes.

1:32:46Why do they always, is that why they always talk about the green eyes? Yeah. Yeah. That's scary. You never really, I can't name you another dog skin person I know with green eyes. Yeah, it's either blue. Yeah, but you can't name me anybody either that's dog skin with green eyes. I never met anybody like that still to this day. I haven't met him. Who tall is he? Like 5 '8 So he's not as if he's 6 feet 2 Just a purebred head Purebred Yeah Ain't it mad how the mindset And people's How you operate People judge you as a person And how you can have fear over people By how you operate Your reputation precedes you No nonsense Even Suge Knight The story was Suge Knight Suge Knight seen him but he hadn't knew who he was before and then Suge Knight went to go meet Murder, Inc.

1:33:38and then Suge Knight seen him in there because he probably was in jail with some people from California. When you're in the feds you have somebody from down south the west coast and New York all in the same spot. So he probably was in jail with a couple dudes from the west coast and Suge probably heard about him. So when Suge seen him similar to this in the hotel room he's like, oh shit, Murder, Inc. Y 'all got a friend with y 'all? Oh, I know y 'all mean business. And that's Suge telling That's Suge saying this out of his own mouth. One of the most feared people ever in the history of fucking music and the entertainment business.

1:34:11And he has respect for my dad. So, like, that just goes to show you who my dad was. Yeah, he was a bad, he was bad, Suge. Because even the story with EZ when he had AIDS, Suge done him interview and says, yeah, I injected him with it. Yeah. Because it wasn't gradually. Yeah. He had instant AIDS. Yeah. He had the instant effect of dying. And then he died in three months. Yeah, he went through stages and it's supposed to take years. And then he says, yeah, I injected him with it. Because I think he wasn't wanting to sign the contract or something. But he was a little gangster. He didn't want to let go of Dr.

1:34:43Dre, I think. Something like that. Yeah. And then she'll, yeah. What about Dr. Dre? Did he ever speak to your dad? I don't think so. Cause he 50? Yeah, I don't think so. But I think Dre would talk to my pops or me. I don't think Dre's on it like that. Yeah, I don't think he would care. I think he knows what 50's like. Yeah, I don't think he would have any. I actually want to meet Dr. Dre. That's like, Dr. Dre is on my bucket list of people that I want to meet and sit down and talk to. Like, Dre is definitely one of those people. Yeah, he's a legend. For what he's achieved. Is it Icon? He was a proper producer.

1:35:20Icon. But even his music, I didn't know. The one with Snoop Dogg. I think it may be the last episode, but it was Jay-Z who wrote that. Yeah, he wrote it. Yeah. He wrote the verses and the hook. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. That's one of the greatest rap songs of all time. One of the, definitely. For sure. Whenever Dre and Snoop get together, it's crazy. I think that's the best rap duo, like the best partnership, the best duo, the best feature team. Like, I don't think nobody's bigger and better than Dre and Snoop. I would love to have known their story though. Did you see the story when they were coming back in a private plane?

1:35:55And because I think Snoop got the photo with Diddy. or said something nice about Diddy. I think he fell out with Tupac. Oh, when he said he was in the back of the plane. Yeah. And he had the life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that. Because you got to imagine you being around Suge and Tupac and seeing everything they was doing and then you thinking that that's going to happen to you now. That got to be like, that fight probably felt like it was three days long. It's crazy. It's sad that a lot of people fall apart because a lot of their music, like we had Oasis, which is totally different, but the two brothers fell out, Liam and Noel, for like 10, 15 years and they never, because their first few albums were unbelievable and now they've started touring again.

1:36:37But having those fallouts with like The Game and 50 Cent and Tupac and Snoop. But it always happens. How far and how much change they could have created with their legacy. I actually spoke about, you ever remember the guy from The Crips? I think he was doing three live sentences. He got a... A Tuki? Tuki. Yeah, or Larry Huber. he was the crypts Tukey Williams but Arnold Schwarzenegger never pardoned him to let him out but this man's knowledge because I think he got a Nobel Prize Tukey? yeah for writing books children's books wow so he would have had the knowledge to try and stop gang violence but Arnold Schwarzenegger ended up getting him killed because he was on death row I think you should have let him out I've just kept him alive yeah you know we can't be killing people who's making changes and who's lived that life that's where we get the change that's where we get the inspiration, not to make the same mistakes.

1:37:29But the Crips and the Blood story is absolutely mega. Do you realize like every group or every team or every, and no matter what it is, whether it's sports, whether it's music, whether it's whatever, they always break up. It's like Shaq and Kobe. Who knows how many rings they could have won together if they didn't break up. And like you said, like the boy groups or the rap groups, they break up. but it's always ego, man. Ego is like the biggest, scariest thing that you can possess. And if it's used in a wrong way, then it's just crazy what it can do to you. When are you 30? When's your birthday?

1:38:08September. So that's you still 29. Still very young as well. Yeah. You know, my birthday's two days before my dad's. My birthday's September 17th, his is the 19th. But you're very well educated as well and very well spoken. You're clearly not daft. Yeah. You know, you've clearly learned a lot and you've obviously got your dad's genes as well. But yeah, I think it's good to fire back. I think it's good to cause a bit of mayhem. You know, you've got to play the game, but the only thing is it is tiresome and it is draining because you can completely lose yourself. And if you haven't got that fuck you money, then what are you doing it for?

1:38:41Because then you just become a pest and sometimes people don't want to work with you. Like 50 can do whatever he wants. People will still work with him. He's got that elevation. He's got that charisma and character and reputation. but when you're coming up, you don't want to be the kid just, oh, he's living off a 50 in his name. He's living off his dad's name. So I'd imagine there's a lot more pressure on your life to try and do it right without people saying, oh, it's only your dad that's helped you. So much pressure. Man, sometimes I can't even sleep at night. The pressure that's been on my shoulders from day one, just will you live up to this?

1:39:16Will you live up to your dad? Will you be your own man? Will you be successful? That's what a lot of people don't see. pressures and how I think I handle it so gracefully. I think I handle all the pressures of the world on me so gracefully and I'm destined for greatness. I just feel like I'm destined for greatness. And I feel like whatever it is that I'm going to be successful at, I'm going to be the best at it. The same way you think you're the best at podcasting, I think whatever my niche is going to be, I think I'm going to be the best at it. When are you at your happiest? When I'm in front of a camera.

1:39:48Do acting then, podcast, get it done. When I'm in front of a mic and when I'm in front of the camera, I'm at my happiest, man. I just, I think I've been groomed to be like in front of a camera and a mic because my mom used to have me perform in front of her friends at her job. Like I used to sing songs and like dance and like, you know, like the little kid that has old energy and like wants to be like a singer or a dancer. Like I used to perform in front of her friends. So like I always loved when people's eyes were on me and like the attention, like the spotlight. So I'm at peace when I'm in front of camera and a mic.

1:40:21What's the best advice you have ever had?

1:40:28Probably from Mike Tyson. When he told me, control your ego and don't let it control you. That's one of the best things that somebody has ever told me. And from my dad too, recently, my dad told me, you got to be able to look yourself in the mirror no matter what. And I was going through something at the time where he told me that as long as you're able to look yourself in the mirror, you don't owe anybody anything. If you're able to look yourself in the mirror, that's all it boils down to at the end of the day. If you can't look at yourself, you shouldn't even be here anymore. So whatever you got to do in your life, whether it's good, whether it's bad, whatever it is, you got to be able to look yourself in the mirror.

1:41:12And I love when I look at myself in the mirror, I love who I see because all I see is growth and progress and progression and ambition and like the hunger to just succeed. So I love who I see when I look in the mirror. Where do you see yourself in the next 10 years? Mogul. Mogul for sure. Millionaire. TV star. Movie star. Everything. Everything. I just everything mobile for sure though yeah go for that you've got the look you've got you speak the part you speak well all you need to do is just put it into action you know it's just consistency for me like i only do podcasts i do documentaries but everything's consistency nobody stops me but me if i fail it's only down to me sometimes i eat my emotions my weight goes up and down but that's okay it's not it's not the worst weakness but always get shit done i'm here you know I'm interviewing people and that's all I can do smashing it yeah learn my craft and just keep doing what I do I love interviewing I love these stories I love getting to know people I love building friendships and that's what it's all about for me you know so you clearly got your head screwed on you clearly get and you're still young so you're still going to mature even more and I don't do drugs either that's the most important thing yeah I don't have any well I'll I was gonna lie just now, I don't have any vices, but women definitely are like my vices.

1:42:41Those fuckers are the worst, bro. That's the worst drug that you ever could have or be on is women. That shit is worse than crack. You should just be diddy, mate, and just fucking look at guys' asses, bro. You save yourself a whole lot of trouble, brother. Yeah. How are you feeling today? I love this, man. This was beautiful. This was beautiful, man. I appreciate you, man. What's your social media links for anybody? they maybe want to ask questions. Supreme underscore McGriff. It's spelled exactly how it sounds. S-U-P-R-E-M-E underscore M-C-G-R-I-F-F. Supreme McGriff, man. You can find me every, just type me, Supreme McGriff, or anything, you'll find me.

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