The Truth About Liverpool Grass Darren G - Amie Gee Tells All

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0:33and boomerang in today's guest we've got amy g amy how are we i'm fine thank you i was smiling it's no not you no more yeah first and foremost thanks for coming on the show thanks for having me your sister-in-law to darren g yeah married to billy dan's brother yeah dan's been online for many years he spoke shit about many people including myself many times he sat in many Podcast talking shit about me For people who don't know I had him on My podcast maybe 5 years ago Explosive podcast, it went viral I've done maybe 2, I think 3 podcasts with him, started speaking Shit about me, he says I was going to get murdered Me and Marvin Herbit Like just crazy stuff, took his podcast Down, he's kind enough I went over Got over it if I'm honest but Today's the day where you kind of know some Information that needs to be shared about this little Weasel and that's what we're here to do But first and foremost how are you I'm fine, thank you.

1:27Before I get into everything though, I always like to go back to the start with my guests, get more of a bit of understanding about you Amy, where you grew up and how it all began. Grew up in Anfield, I was a bit of a loose cannon who used to get called, wild child, loved to party. And then I met Billy, fell in love with Billy, spent 18 years of my life with him, I had three kids. and it obviously ended because he took his own life but I had to time my life with him he was the funniest person and he could entertain anyone he only walked in a room and lit the room up do you know what I mean the whole of Liverpool I miss him not just us typical Scouser then partying bit of a mad bastard everybody knows my love for the Scousers it's just nothing but love and respect because every time I'm down here it's just always an amazing time amazing people there's not many people there's only one person that I've got fucking hate for from Liverpool and it's Dan so yeah, love the Scousers, love everything about them, I always say it, it's like a little world within a world, so what were you like at school?

2:37I was doing very well at school, I was the class clown I used to just this one teacher Mr Owens, he hated my gut and I killed his fish and he never got over it. I couldn't sit in his class. He just dismissed me out of class so I had to sit out of RA for the rest of the three years in Anfield Comp. How did you end up killing his fish? Because he locked me in the cupboard because I was being cheeky. But in this day and age, how can you lock someone in a cupboard because they're being cheeky? He should have sent me out of class but now he never chose to lock me in the cupboard. How was family life?

3:13Mum and dad, brothers, sisters? I was great. Growing up was great. Normally the class clowns are the one who's more fucked in the head, you know, it's a good deflection tactic of pretending that we're okay, but really we're struggling. Yeah, I'm definitely fucked in the head. Again, typical scouser. So what did you do when you left school? I'd done a PC course. I'd done a Nile course. I'd probably done every course, and then I went to Hope University and done psychology. I enjoyed that, but I left. I left seven months before I graduated. because I got pregnant with Mally. What, did you, first pregnancy?

3:51Yeah. How old were you? 20. So what age did you meet Billy? Well, I already knew him when I was 16. Did you live next to each other? No, he lived in Cakesdale, I lived in Anfield. Did you know about the G-Brothers? Because they did have a reputation. Yeah. Back then, they did have a fearsome reputation. Yeah. Was that more of a turn-on for you, or were you nervous? No, he made me laugh. Billy wasn't like his brothers he was different he stood out I mean the name that they've got Billy was, he was scary do you know what I mean but he wasn't like them he was just hilarious and I don't know I didn't fancy him he made to do it because he had his eyebrows joined and I used to go over him and then the next thing I'm with him and you had that kid at 20?

4:41yeah how was that feeling for you? It was a shock. And we wasn't, we were, when I first got pregnant, we was together and then we split up and then we got back together. It was like that, we was on and off for a few years until Molly was like six. But it was scary because I didn't know how to be a mum. I was still a kid myself. Yeah. And what was their brothers? How did they treat you? Steve and Ian and Danny treated me fine. I didn't really, I wasn't really around, Darren. I didn't... He wasn't ever around in the day time. Why? I don't know. He was only here and he peers at night. Sunny hours.

5:26Snooping every night. And what happened, Dan, Donnie's first podcast with me, they spoke about child abuse. How true is that? Well, Billy never, never said that to me. I didn't know that he got beat up because he spoke about that a lot, but not the sexual abuse, that's, I can honestly say, I think that's bullshit because Billy never ever said that the 18 years spent with him. He could have been hiding it though? No, because he got sectioned Billy, because he shot himself in the head and it developed epilepsy. So he started having grand mal seizures and it scarred the seizures, scarred the brain.

5:59So he had to have MRI scans quite a lot and he got sectioned twice. So in the reports, it doesn't say nothing like that. It speaks about being beat up, but not about sexual abuse. So I've never mentioned that? Never. So what happens then with your life? How many kids have you got? I've got three. So three, two, Billy, 18 years. Yeah. And how was life with the relationship then? We used to kill each other. But when it was good, it was very good. He was a bit of a romantic, Billy. I'd be washing the dishes and he'd come behind me dancing and we'd dance and sing. and we had just the time in my life with him.

6:39I miss him, do you know what I mean? If I could have him back today, I would, but for my own selfish reasons. But, yeah, the relationship was good. He was a brilliant dad, like, unbelievable. Always had time for his kids. That was his main scenario, like, he was there for his kids. Why did he try and shoot himself? I couldn't tell you. I think it might have been the drugs, to be honest. What drugs was he taking? cocaine. Every day? No, just binged recreationally. So just at the weekends? Yeah. Pretty same as every kind of other lad, isn't it? Just kind of comes from the streets just partying at the weekend, kind of escape.

7:20How was the relationship then? Just cat and mouse all the time, kind of at each other? Not really now. We used to party together because I was doing it with him. But when we did fight, the police got involved it was it was a bit of a mess do you know what I mean like it wasn't just them it was me as well we used to kill each other I'd give as good as I got what about Dan's mum? Janie she's lovely nice person yeah lovely Craig Barker when Dan spoke about the killing of Craig Barker and they they said they were going to kill Darren but Dan's went in the back seat or something to play the computer how true is this story?

7:58well from what Billy says dad hadn't seen them but billy i i don't really know because i tried to stay out at all and i said when that was happening i wasn't with billy at the time but it was sad do you know what i mean really sad that craig died mark and ian got shot um and dad walked away scoffery and that was all because of his doing do you know what I mean because of what he was doing and innocent people lost their lives and innocent people went to jail you haven't someone caused that much trouble and then stands up in the dock and start grassing you're either on one side of the fence or the other yeah I believe that it's all or nothing you know what I'm saying if you're in that life you die by it but you know yourself people are weak when the coppers come knocking people are very weak when they're going to get put behind bars for the rest of their life and everybody turns and it's not just him it's many people do it.

8:58I've spoke to mafia men who have killed 20 people but yet they turn on their own because they want a lighter sentence and I don't know how they can get a lighter sentence if they've killed so many people but this is just the side we're in the police know how to manipulate it for the weak ones to then sing so Craig's been killed so you think Darren's seen that he was going to get killed in switch seats? No, Billy said that he thinks Darren's seen them when he was driving in and swaps seats with Craig. He was going to pick his washing up. But as I say, I can't confirm that because I was in with Billy at the time.

9:34And then the murder after that, another innocent man was killed because they tried to retaliate, but they killed their own man. And it's sad because Davey looked after him. Davey and Nicky, he was always in their house. They took care of him and he switched up on them. He does that quite a lot, switches up on people. So he knew Davey as well? yeah but he says I think on my first podcast that they'd heard it was David that tried to kill them yeah definitely not and who was it to end up killing David I think someone's in jail for it aren't they yeah because it was darn he never done it he was he was sitting off the streets in a car wasn't he as he do he's a shithouse isn't he oh yeah so what happens with the court cases because everybody says he's a grass but how true is it because everybody they got a 28 wreck he got an 18 and he was out in 12 because there's still people in there yeah what's the evidence of him standing in the dock and pointing fingers yeah he stood in the dock he stood in the dock and got Willie and Porky jail for trouble he caused ruining family his grave dies he ruined that family Mark got shot he ruined that family Ian got shot he ruined that family he ruined himself he ruined everyone's family Kirstie, Natalie and Amy lost their dad and so did poor his kids because he gasped.

10:59You can't go around causing trouble and then stands in the dock and gasped. It's not right. You're either on one side's defence or not and then he's sitting on podcasts telling everyone's business. Tell your own business. Gas on yourself for the things you've done. What has he done? Sutton has went on. I don't know exactly what, but Sutton has went on. Mad on it. who hurts their own one this is meant to be a man that's healed and he's got over the trauma so you let it lie he's not healed, he's not trauma his conscience is eating him alive and that's why he's sitting daily slagging everyone off, telling people's business you know look at what he's done to my daughter she was 12 years old showing her all the pictures that girls had sent him for 12 years, nacles in their underwear uncle that's no uncle who does that that's a predator asking her questions has she ever been with a boy and has he ever touched her that's who asks a young girl things like that and then there's a video on her in the street when she's coming out to the shop with her mates getting sweets see this girl's mum she's a slag he was saying that about you yeah about doing your daughter when was that?

12:12in 2017 when did Molly tell you that he was sending her photos? No, she was in Janet's and she sent me a picture. So when he come out of jail, Katie come to my house and said, Darren, I want to speak to you. And who's Katie? Darren's wife. And she says, she phoned him and he said, are you ready to build bridges? I haven't been burnt on. So I went up to see him. And the Darren years before he went to jail, just without blinking, just glaring in your eyes. saren couldn't even look me in the eye and he got up and walked out and casey went to me why is he like that with you i says probably guilt and she went guilt for what i said the voicemail he left billy and she went what voicemail i said oh didn't you know i said the week before billy's eyes when saren had been granted his parole he left billy a voicemail you're fat selfish you're a bastard next time try and kill yourself too properly and she just went white i went that's why you can't look at me and then when we're leaving we're getting in the car he's giving us the kids hugs and giving me a hug and he started crying and he said look i've got a ring to sell me properties want to buy a big house for me casey and roma i want you and our billy's kids to come and live with me and i just went so now we're not your responsibility and after that he switched up terrorizing commenting on pictures on facebook was wife standing next to me and he's commenting on me silence is golden and I just make things a million times worse and I was just commenting saying be fucking quiet then and everyone saying to me stop it, stop it no I won't, do you want me to be victimised by him, not a chance, that's my kid's uncle he shouldn't be doing the things he's doing When did Dan get married?

14:022013 I think In prison? Yeah So how did the relationship with Katie start then? um so suzanne daren was with suzanne and suzanne was my friend and um suzanne got sectioned so and she's brought casey to my house once and we was going to see suzanne and because billy wasn't in from work i said phone suzanne phones and i said i can't come in because billy's not from work but casey's come and i've given the stuff that i bought for you to come to take in and she went to me, don't you let her speak to Zaren and with that when Casey comes back, she comes to my house a few days later and we end up all having a drink and then the next thing is, her going on is to see Zaren and Suzanne got legs So you married Taren in prison?

14:51Yeah How was the relationship between Billy and Van? Billy never really spoke to Taren He hated him. Why? Because of what he'd done He wasn't he was very jealous of his brothers, Darren. Everything they had, the families, the kids, because he didn't have it. How many kids has Dan got? Two. So he's not got older kids? No, well, DNA tests was done. Swabs, no, what are they called? Yeah, DNA. It was inconclusive. Did Dan raise that kid thinking it was his? No. No, I never know. She never, ever told anyone. What would you? What was he like before prison? I didn't really go around them up there then.

15:39How was Danny? The big BFG, big friendly giant. I liked Danny. He's not what he's perceived to be, do you know what I mean? But the papers and the media portray him as an artist. Yeah, he's trying to be a monster, but he's not. Was Dan, what was his reputation like? Was he feared back then? Yeah. Who was the most feared? Darren. Was it? Not Danny? Because that's what I'm led to believe from people you speak to and things that you hear, that Danny was the main... No, so, from what I can remember, if Darren G was after you had to leave the country, if Danny G would just come to your door, he'd take your door off, he'd pull your windows off, because he's an absolute monster.

16:21Because he's huge, but... No, I'd say Darren was health. Were you scared of him? Yeah. I was, yeah, I was pretty wild. I'm a woman, I'm a mum. Even when Billy was around? No, Billy had killed him with one hand. He was scared of Billy. But he wouldn't admit that. So when he's went into prison then and got 18 years, became a snitch, like what was happening in his life then, like with Katie and other family members, did the brothers have sown him because of what he'd done? So, Taryn, Danny and Stephen was in jail. there was only being a billionaire and I was in, he was both working so I don't think they really spoke to him anyway because he was always in work and he didn't have a phone time in jail.

17:12Was he in protection? Something, something now. Can't remember. Because his problem is he's all here trying to expose drug dealers this and that but when he get out of the jail he try to get back on the grass. Yeah, and no one will give me. And he got legged out, you know, because he was a grass. Yeah. And I think his mum threw him out because of the trouble he was bringing to the door. I can recall he's kicked off in the house and I can remember a video that he posted and it was saying his mum, Isaac Ferrer, who was a police officer and he sexually abused him. Have Janet only ever been with his dad, Billy?

17:58I've never known if there's another fella and Billy never ever mentions another fella. So I think that's been made up in his head. And I think the police removed him from the house and he has not allowed back there ever since. Yeah, because when he'd done the podcast with me, he was talking about there was a copper who abused him. I've never heard nothing about that. So do you think that's all made up? Yeah. This is what I'm saying, like, he's very convincing in his words. He's a master manipulator. I got told he was a berlin and he was a grass. But I'm all for giving people a platform who I think has changed their life.

18:32Like I say, I've interviewed mafia men who's became snitches, but they still get to tell their story. And I thought the fact that he'd changed his life and chose a life, not a knife. After stabbing his wife in the head. Did they stab his wife in the head? Yeah, she has a CT conveysible and he put the knife right through her and stabs her in the head with her daughter and passenger seat as well. when was that? 2017 and what happened? I don't know, it wasn't there but I do know she got the police from and this is the thing you can phone the police all you want but you won't prosecute them you won't do nothing he walked and then he robbed her house she lives in a house in Mersey Road Leckie Gates and he robbed her house he's walking out the house with a carry bag of clothes of the fella who she was seeing at the time and Roma's iPad on her laptop and the police left, checked it all he couldn't put the codes in the laptop, the iPad and he didn't know the passwords for the laptop and they still let him walk away with it and he must have been wearing the man's clothes whose case he was seeing at the time So he stabbed on the head because she was seeing someone else?

19:48I don't know I think that was before, just before she was seeing someone else what happened with that? nothing? nothing but like I say when they come on the podcast explosive podcast I think it was like one and a half million views or something in just a few weeks like I say I don't know the politics down here I was only just starting off I like the fact of somebody coming out of prison changing their life and trying to help others done a second podcast in quick sensation big podcast so it's views I'm going to get them on again it makes business sense and then the third one then things changed I had to work in Glasgow three times and I'm very friendly with everybody but if you fuck me over you're done and I don't know if we had anybody around him like I like to see myself as a decent person try and help people out like I said I never bent a broke when people are saying listen don't have his broadcast out he's a fucking berend and I still put it out and then Marvin Herbert who's a good friend of mine done a podcast with him Darren was on the third podcast he was saying yeah can't wait to see Marvin's podcast great guy and Marvin wanted Darren on his podcast like it's all a bit gay but he wanted him on his podcast I said no problem we were out for dinner and I says yeah I'm with Darren he says can I speak to him I says Marvin's what to speak to him he says yeah let me speak to him and ever since then I don't know if he'd get jealous it's like a it's like a weird fucking change in energy like in any dinner video saying that because i was going to do an ayahuasca documentary it's like a plant medicine but i was going to do people who was in prison take them to this jungle then i started doing videos saying i mean maverick were going to get him killed when we were at the jungle and i'm thinking what the fuck is going on so i responded straight away

21:39the first time yesterday was actually i'd put a post out about you but the reason being is because i didn't know what you were like the first podcast i'm thinking fuck man i need to step back from this kid man he's a crackpot i'm going to go on his second podcast he's actually okay and then i've seen you out in videos and i used to always think when am i going to get outed that's what i used to think so i used to james look i think i did i know but i can only reassure you so many times yeah i know but i think i've sent you messages and i sort of said yeah your boss kid james don't worry i'm never going to do anything towards you i've come up here three times by myself i've got in your car you've accommodated me and not one thing has ever happened to me not one little negative glitch or hang on he might have set me up with all this bullshit so that's in the trust the way you treat me when i'm here you fear me well you speak to me right it is what it is la because you're coming to ayahuasca when i put a poster who was coming people like we're the fox dan g but we don't have this book you never had your passport well hopefully at the end of well it's all done i just need someone to sign and then i've got the passport so it is what it is so you're on board for that ayahuasca i'm on board with you if you want me to be there there's some people coming into the podcasting area now that are worth watching aren't they yeah like um who's the kid with the glass eye oh marvin herbert has his explosive now he's explosive yeah do you understand what i mean so if you look at every interview that this marvin's had he's explosive and i've said to people you can't change in two years but you can he's not changed in the sense of who he is to understand that this is my opinion yeah he's changed in the sense of what he's done and what he's doing now so it's still Marvin like I'm still Darren I've still got this mindset but the mindset's focused on the positive things for the youth and making a difference in his community because you can only embrace the damage you've done when you're at it the way I've looked at it and the way he's looking at it it's gonna be explosive I think refer to that podcast earlier on and basically that's the one I was all about someone about this Marvin podcast where he's where he's got this somewhat what a Sean Sean I would in the fucking in the hot seat mm-hmm in the heart seat yeah so it is what it is you're gonna see this little fucking rapper exactly what he is on the back of get on to Marvin's podcast and watch it because I'm waiting for it on the back of you give me that opportunity of a podcast without you understanding or realizing you have indirectly helped thousands of young men just by giving me that platform and helping me promote my message and helping me penetrate the minds of the youth and the masses that's your way of fucking doing that's the good you're doing yeah I love it I know I've changed thousands of lives and I wouldn't have if you never come into the picture.

25:01You know, it's a lot of people. Nobody respond. I'm responding. Let's get a few things right. Let's get the facts right. Do you know what I mean? Because you asked to be on my podcast, not once, not twice, but three times. You wanted on my podcast. The first time, not a problem. You came on explosive. Bear in mind, I had already done 100 podcasts before you came on my already successful show. second time you wanted on three four months later because you said your stuff was hacked people were talking shit to young girls i had you on again to have your peace have your say i was always wary of you because if i'm honest i always knew this day would come i don't out anyone but like i says needs must had you on the third time to try and promote a positive message promote your clothing brand you've got a kid on the way i done that as you can see in the videos that you've just watched there, Darren has been thankful, it was a mutual agreement that he was coming on the podcast listening to spread his message which is great, a message choose a life not a knife that was actually brought in in 2016 by the Met Police, these are facts, so you've come up three times, I've had you up to Glasgow four times, three for the podcasts, put you in nice apartments, fed you well, I've had your missus up here with the kids as well just for a break so i've had you up here four times you bring big numbers i've spoke about that before you agreed to that but now you're doing videos saying that i've used you i've used your videos let's get things fucking straight you've come on my podcast people know you because you come on my platform not the other way about i don't owe you a fucking thing you came on my podcast and people know you from that and your word has spread you should be happy about that but you're always outing people you're a walking contradiction someone who's always going about choosing a life not a knife while talking about killing families someone who talks about drugs they're destroying the city drug dealers are the worst but yet you buy weed from drug dealers every single fucking day i ain't a monk a saint i make mistakes every day and everybody darn outs turns a nonce straight away a grass or gay but let's face it sure as fuck you're looking in the mirror when you're saying that shit because there's so much shit about you says about all that but i'm not going to get into that because i just want to state things clear that your podcasts have been taken down it's not a conspiracy it's no conspiracy your shit's been taken down because you're talking shit about me you're saying that i used you when you've just seen the footage here that darlin was happy to come on my podcast and as for the thing with Marvin you knew Marvin was coming to the ayahuasca documentary you spoke to Marvin we had dinner Marvin phoned he says he wanted you on the podcast I gave you the phone this isn't a conspiracy this just happened you promoted Marvin on my podcast just two or three weeks ago so I don't see the problem the the title of the video I put up saying darn G versus Marvin Herbert it which is nothing basically you can see it in the thumbnail it says best bits it says best bits two of my most explosive podcasts in 2020 i put the clips together it's a clip of darn clip of marvin clip of darn clip of marvin and it's just their best bits it says it in the thumbnail best bits it says it in the title best bits you'd already seen this video before you'd done my podcast you never mentioned it you've promoted marvin on my podcast you've spoke to him on the phone and now it's a mad conspiracy as if i can spy against you now you put a thing on twitter also saying that i gained a hundred thousand followers from you you haven't even got a hundred thousand followers yourself i've got over half a million that is irrelevant you saying that that i've gained a hundred thousand from your podcast is a discredit for me and my team the fucking work that we put in daily i release two podcasts per week fucking two it ain't easy but i do it i've whole mixture I guess explosive podcasts yes yours was explosive I give you that but it ain't fucking what's made my show it ain't what's made me you're putting posts out saying that I've gained from you fair dues but I think it's kind of a mutual agreement people come on my podcast to tell their story I give them the platform to do so I believe I'm a good interviewer that I guide them through our story you've been on many other podcasts before and you've not reached those numbers reason being is because I wasn't fucking sitting at the other side of the mic and that's not a blonde won't trump it is because i believe i'm the best at what i do so you put these posts on twitter i never butt to it because i couldn't understand why you were mentioning me but maybe it's because you have your own podcast starting soon maybe because you know my name is clout you know you're mentioning my name it will hit headlines people will talk about it but again what all that shit it's just negative drama that it's all bullshit you put a post out two days ago saying you would never out me.

30:07I never replied to that either because I thought, fuck this man, it's a new year. I can't be annoyed with all the negativity. But, it is what it is. You've done what you've done. Your podcasts are down. They're all on private. Only reason these podcasts will get put back on if I get an apology. As simple as that. You talk about your message and you want to promote it. My podcasts were doing that for you. My podcasts were making you a crust. Big sale in your clothing brand. But now you want to talk shit. that's all you fucking do is just talk shit so i'm here to respond and i'll fucking respond right i ain't talking shit people who follow me know listen you're going to talk and people will listen some assholes will listen but you don't state facts these are facts and that's fair you can come on i know you're going to do responses yourself and come back he's fucking this he's a nonce he's a grass he's he's gay fucking get a grip because you say it to everybody else it's like the boy who cried wolf that's all it is you're going to say enough shit and people are just going to stop listening to you i was all for help promote your message supporting you i have supported you i was taking you to an ayahuasca documentary would have done that you knew the names that were coming marv's name was there you knew all this so i don't get where this has came from i think your paranoia has led you to this i believe or maybe it's a wee agenda behind you but I had to respond today because I'm not taking that pish I find it very disrespectful and if I'm honest I'm kind of hurt by it I didn't think I would have to do this but I did genuinely believe that Dan would do what he's done this is what he does he does it to everybody pushes everybody away and that's fair enough now you talk about me using you and making money every one of your podcasts none of them are monetised everyone has a little yellow flag None of them are monetised because of the stuff that's in them.

31:59Because of the shit that you speak. None of them get monetised. So I don't make money from your podcast. And even if I did, so fucking what? I spend money to get you up here. It is what it is. But this is just a short video to show you what Dan was like in part three. And that's it. My podcast will continue to fly. As of next week, I'll be back to releasing two per week. And that's it. I'm not here to tarnish anybody. people who come on my show I start their own podcast and I will help those people it's as simple as that I don't know if there's a bit of jealousy there involved I just don't know and frankly I don't give a fuck I don't care because I know what I'm building I know what I'm creating and I'm doing that through hard work I don't do it these stupid videos I find that schoolboy stuff people doing videos and live feeds for me that's childish that's not the way it should be but people deal with things differently and then that was it took his podcast down I never spoke about them again I'm too busy and once you start seeing the patterns of these people how they react they thrive on this he'll thrive on this as if it's giving them air time but still if you're talking shit you're going to get put in your place now I'm very calculated whether it's a month a year five years I'll wait I'll fucking sit and wait you know what I'm saying when people these people play their cards and think it's they've defeated you or they've won it's not I'm too busy I travel the world I've created a multi-million pound platform I do alright so when people talk shit say what you've got to say I'm still thriving I still keep raising the bar and I know that burns people more than anything but Hammett was different responded that night took all his stuff down because he was always creating GoFundMes taking money off people never doing anything with it the thing about this plonker is over the last five years everything he says he's never backed it up you know where I stay come to my fucking door not once have I had not once have I went hiding I go about myself Liverpool myself I'll walk about either with my kids or my dogs or whatever.

33:55I've got teams of people. I'm not on videos screaming, shouting, I'm going to do this and that. Come see me. Where I'm from, if you've got grievances with someone, you either try and get it sorted out through mutual friends before things maybe escalate, or you make them for a square goal, make them for a terror. I've had three fights in my life in my 20s. With that, people try to sort it out. Two became my best friend. After that, other ones passed away, sadly. but that's what we deal with things in Glasgow you meet someone you try and sort it out like I say before it escalates or you meet someone for a square goal three I've had in my 20s with him it's just all shouting you're sitting in a screen in a fucking single bedroom shouting at people who are doing things with their life and it's not just me it's not just you he's done this with hundreds of people and I started to see he really struggles with mental health smokes a lot of weed his head's gone I see this I'm not fucking stupid but sometimes people think because he says so much people believe he believes his own hype and people buy into his own hype because he's so believable you think man he's on it but he's a fucking diddy what's he done over the last 5 years what's he done over the last 10 years everything he's ever said he's gonna do he's never done he never he walks about at 4 in the morning he walks about with masks on back something up what you're gonna do he makes out he can fight he's about 5 feet fucking 5 wears extra small t-shirts and he thinks he's a big strong man he's a fucking plonker and this is like I say it'll come for me and you talking shit because of what we're doing but it's all lies this and that but people he's done about 10 or 15 podcasts on me talking about me but that just fuels him again because this will give him more air time but listen like I say everything that he says is waffle and he doesn't back it up just question what he's done over the last five years I don't know how many doors he says he was going to not one has he fucking showed up on he knows where I stay in Glasgow come to the fucking door and everybody's always in my back garden I've just seen the videos that just shows you you know what I mean yeah you sent me videos but so who do you think that is it's one million percent but you can't really see his face no so it's understandable he says it's not him as well because it's not clear cut you sent me the footage and er why do you think he would come to your door though at four in the morning because that's all he's ever done he'd done it when after the rejections I had to move in with me and the kids he was in my back on three o 'clock one morning one minute past three the next morning two minutes past three for two whole weeks and he was on the I've still got my hard drive he's on the camera sitting on my back on my chairs on my patio smoking a spliff saying wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait like I owe some something and I remember Casey his wife saying to me only that I know you'd think something has went on between you the way he is over you it's weird behaviour I was the same it's like it's like fucking weird like how we can just switch it was broken hearted that I've got other friends or I do other podcasts he started doing videos saying it was him it made me it was his podcast I've interviewed 500 people travelled the world bear in mind I've interviewed where nearly 500 people I've interviewed the only person who talks shit is him so that's a big ratio to have 499 people speak pretty highly of you I believe if I'd phoned any one of them they would answer the phone or if I needed help they would help but I wouldn't but that shows you the percentage of people who I've had on who don't do videos and you've got this plonker who does videos all the time but people love to believe it you've got to have your haters who believe what he says Because they don't want to see you succeed or do well That's fine, I'm not arsed about that Like I say over the last 8 years I've done this You'll never see me fucking break or fold Never see me melt Yes I'll go home and think okay What's the best moves for me here People come for me all the time Media, this prick Never folded, I'm still here I'm still doing my thing, I don't hide I've created platforms, I've created businesses I've created friendships I'm not on videos saying I'm going to do this And I'm going to do that You don't see me doing that Because if something's getting done It's getting done Like I say Back in the day It was either sorted By mutual friends Or you had a square goal You shook hands And you moved on All this gay shit Sitting on cameras And shouting at people TikTok's turned Half the fucking world gay All these men dancing And talking shit And making false threats Like it's so false You know It's so fake Like be a fucking man If you've got a problem Ask for my number Take my number Meet me That's it No videos No cameras No nothing Don't have that not where I'm from and I certainly know the Scousers the majority of Scousers don't act like that it's just sort of hangs out like men but the world's becoming soft a lot of these people think they're celebrities they think they're bigger than what they are because they get a couple of hundred people on lives like I'm not really on TikTok there's a couple of clips pages for my podcast but when you're on it it's like mental health issues these people talking on lives to two and three people who the fuck are you talking to?

39:05like they think they're bigger and like it's going to people's heads and this is when he has head I should have exposed this prick many times but I didn't because he's not on my level he's so far beneath me but you messaged me when I had the podcast with him what five years ago and I kind of swerved it if I'm honest I'm going to be honest but I just thought nah like I didn't want to get involved you know but he just speaks so much shit about people and it's like an obsession he's like obsessed with me I think he fancies me I genuinely think he's a bender I think he's he's always talking about willies and arses and cum and I think he done a video says he was thinking about going jail gay listen you're either gay or you're not you're a sucking dick or you're not and for me he's a wee bender he's a bisexual or something but he's got weird creepy tendencies and it's like when his feelings get hurt he doesn't know how to handle that emotion so it just goes so extreme everybody's a nonce everybody's a grass everybody's a woman beat her everybody's fucking this that's everything he is that's a reflection of him we call him the mirror because everything he says a reflection of him he's a fucking bear end and like I say this has been a long time coming I don't want people thinking that this is some sort of plan between me and you to try and target him that's not what I do this is only for for your side but I've also got to have a say because of the shit that he spoke about me you know and sometimes with these people they're so thick they don't see what they do like there's so many videos with him contradicting himself that I had to respond when he started speaking shit about me because I had a video with saying wait a minute just says that you love Marvin you can't wait to see his videos but all of a sudden they were trying to set you up to kill you and then just weird behaviour I've never tested that sort of venom from anybody you know somebody's maybe going to speak shit they kind of speak shit and then it fizzles he was consistent every time consistent and every time I kept raising the bar it's like it was filling him with hate and more rage and I'm thinking this guy's got serious fucking issues but like I say if you were ever going to come to my door come to my door nobody was ever hiding I can handle myself I've done my time boxing for years just because I'm not in videos saying I'm going to do this or I'm going to do that it doesn't mean you're not fucking capable for me silence is more powerful than anything but it's difficult especially being in the spotlight because you've got to defend yourself as well you'll get haters online but nobody ever say anything to me outside everybody's sound, according to yourself everybody will be sound when you ever get trouble you don't, it's just social media has changed that with people when the first podcast started I remember the email she had when I spoke to you and I said well you mute Molly's name she's 12 and he said you can't because that was lies she's 12 years old in the park early hours in the morning with drug dealers, she was in bed she was up for 5 o 'clock, she had to be on the bus to school she went to Bellarive School, the other side of Liverpool and had to be on the bus and she was so upset and I thought you're meant to be her uncle, you should be looking after her but you're not, you're trying to ruin her she's a child and it made me angry and the reason I wanted to come on this time is because my son sent me a video off to Hiltrach of him saying the monster where he forgot to put beautiful before it about me, he stabbed his dad now his dad was on a bender with Ali and they come in and I heard them went down the stairs, there was a man's a coke, well two bottles of vodka, a memory in the vodka and her wife swiped the coke and because Bobby had broke his leg and I heard the table cheers no scraping along the floor and Ali shouting well Az what are you doing, I take mine, Billy had sweat like about the mifs and stabbed himself in the chest and Ali ran away and only Ali is in jail now he would have sent a voice note or he would have spoke to say he was there but he can't because he's in jail and my son asking me questions, doubting me if I stabbed his dad, I'd never have had Billy, I'd never have left him as much as, yeah it was toxic just before his dad because we was both drinking and snorting coke all the time but I'd never have left him because he was suffering with the epileptic fits and they weren't just the visionary ones, they was grandma's seizures he had to be hospitalized every time he had one and then another one another um tiktok video saying him about oh he never got any love because i wasn't there he doesn't even know love he doesn't know what love is he's never got a bit of he doesn't love himself the way he's speaking about people say what he wants about me um tick skins um that doesn't doesn't bother me but when it comes to my kids but they're not kids anymore they're older now like me old molly's 22 now bobby's 15 stacy's 13 they're older they understand right from wrong and i will you know i i haven't been able to be the mum the loving woman the nurturer i'm a terrible mum if they're too totally honest but i'm an absolute fucking amazing dad because i've had to be the protector and the provider and that's the credit you know he doesn't look at it like that he just thinks well my brother killed himself so and pointing fingers now do you pointing fingers at the wrong person because if billy had to come and slept and come home to my house that night where he lived he'd still be alive today but he never he chose to go and stay in your mum's house where he took his own life and he was messaging everyone but he never messaged me or he never messaged dian if he's a messaged me or already and we'd have been there but now he messaged someone who's so cocaine saying i'm playing the piano upside down with me feet that text got ignored because he thought he wanted a coat now, he was letting you know, he was going to do himself in, but that person wasn't meant to know that but if he'd messaged one of us we'd have known, and we'd have touched Janet's door after the injuries, but he didn't message none of us.

45:11Why did they not message you? I don't know, I think he's had enough, he was like so at the beginning of the week, he'd lost his job they'd sacked him, and um unknown to them, Ian hasn't got another job for him, but Ian didn't want to tell him until he had left the lamb's company and so he was down about that and then he's had an eight milligram mal seizure and he had to be took on an ambulance to the hospital and he was he was just looked you could see it in him he looked so tired his soul was exhausted but i didn't expect him i don't think any of us expected him to do that and then um kay who was bobby's godmother she worked in the pub he was in and she rang me at half 12 and she went he wants to speak to you and i can remember his ticor eyes and on the phone he was off his case and he went i'll be home soon and i was in bed and woke up the next morning wasn't home so we phoned him no answer phone janitor so where is he she went he went to mine because we were still in the pub at three o 'clock so he says um he's got to watch Sadie while I go and get Bobby's uniform so I was standing on the clothes and I thought to myself you're a cunt you're doing this why if he stays out because I thought he'd stay out all night I thought he's went to the party somewhere and I'm driving now the pub's looking for him and Johnny I went in the valley pub and as I'm walking out to get back in the car Molly's hysterical Janet phoned me phone because it was through the car Molly has answers and she went you better get up here he's dead and I went he's not he's not dead and when I pulled up outside Janet's she stands on the step Mia's crying everyone's crying and I went to walk in she went you're not going in girl she went he's dead she's not going in and I could see his feet at the top of the stairs he was black so I don't know what time he had done it but for him to be that colour at that it was just after 11 in the morning for him to be that colour of that quick.

47:14He must have done tied some fucking it must have been some strength for him to tie the sheet like that. And he was tall Billy as well and he'd done it off the door. So on the chocolate jallet store frames it was glass. So he'd put the sheet through. And I was thinking how the fuck I was I remember when he he took the what did he call the Oshers Undertakers Undertakers when he took his basi I went up and I was looking and I was thinking how have you done it? So he must have just dropped his legs. And then Janet had to untie him on her own, do you know what I mean? And I said, I'll never get my head around it because he was big.

47:56Billy, he was like six foot three and he was huge. His hands was, he was a monster. Five times the size of Darren. And I just, I'll never get my head around it. How hasn't that glass snapped? And how did you do it? How many times did they try and take his life before it? Erm, twice. He shot himself, he took an overdose. Oh no, three, because when we lived in, we lived facing his mum in Mary Paul close, and he bought a new telly, and I was cleaning out. This is before, he bought a telly before I moved in there, and there was a cupboard at the top of the stairs and the telly box was in there, and I was cleaning it all out because I was making that into the wardrobe and there was all, excuse me, there was all papers in the telly box and there was a note, he left a note and I went down the stairs and I went like that to him and he snatched it and his eyes felt up and he went I'm still here and laughed it off and I thought, no, because for you to write that note and to throw it in there, you was going to do yourself in and then so when he'd go out on a bender I'd phone everywhere I'd stay up and wait for him because I thought I wouldn't go to sleep until he'd gone to sleep because after finding that I thought no you're going to try and do yourself in and then I think it was after two years I stopped then I stopped staying awake and waiting for it to happen do you know what I mean?

49:32Did you split up? No we stayed together So he was still together when he'd done it? Yeah it's sad I know when someone's mental health goes because you're no control no matter what but the drugs and that that just pushes you over the edge that gives you the sort of confidence to just do it yeah I believe I mean it takes a lot to take someone's life but to take your own you've got to have some balls to do that is Dan blaming you for that don't blame me for whatever the fuck you can blame me for his shoes as well if you want so couldn't really give a flying fuck yeah it's sad how was your life like after that how do you deal with that with three kids and trying to keep playing cocaine was my best mate but it took me to one of the darkest places and it is a few months ago um i took myself to please please please house because it wasn't needed a section and note yourself never get onto cocaine or sniff it yourself because i don't know sometimes i just question myself and think could i have done something is this did i miss something but I don't I can't even give you any answers or anything but my kids laughed they smiled like I think it was if it wasn't for them I probably wouldn't be here but they're happy do you know what I mean and I don't think it wasn't just me it's Billy's family as well like even though me and the family fell out like I'd never I wouldn't have kept the kids away from because that's always they have to do and they're very good to my kids do you know what I mean like the love they showed them and the time that they've got for them and they've got good bonds with Billy's family and especially the cousins and Ian and Steve and like they're brilliant with them, do you know what I mean?

51:08And I really appreciate that and I'll be forever grateful for it and so will Billy. But it's just saddening, like let him rest. That's why I've come to do this because it's been 10 years and you're still online chatting shit. So let the truth be out there and let him rest because it's not fair, like there's five, he left five kids and you're shouting your mouth off, telling lies. But that's what he wants. That's all he's got Is hate He's just an angry little man Like I say People think he's massive This and that He's fucking tiny All he does is wear Extra small t-shirt He gets a bump on Before he goes on alive To make himself look strong He's about 5 feet 5 Everything he says Is a lie Everything And I only experience that Because I know the shit He says about me He says I work with the mafia And I try to get him killed And I'm thinking What the fuck are you talking about I'm a public figure I do well I've created a multi million pound platform and I travel the world everybody eats well my people around me are good everything's good why waffle shit come and see me any issues like I say send me your number come see me don't block me from your platforms you little fucking coward you know if you're going to talk shit own it back it up but the thing is mud sticks people want to believe he's hype people want to believe he's shit because he's so convincing he's very convincing see the thing with your daughter when he was showing her photos when did she come forward with that?

52:29So when she, at the time I was, I moved out to the house, I'd done a Florence overnight, seven o 'clock in the morning got removers to empty the house, box the house up and just left. And I was living in an apartment in Whittle and Molly was staying with me mum for school. So my mum, I phoned my mum one night and I said where's Molly, she went she's in Mary's, to Molly's friend and Mary had messaged me asking where Molly was so I drove over and I went to Mary's and I said where is she she went I don't know so I went to my mum's and said where's Molly she went to Mary's she's not just been to Mary's and I knew and me intuition told me and I went she's with Darren and I says and you know quite well she's not allowed there and me woman went well I can't stop it it's her uncle and I was gonna go up and I thought now I'm gonna let you see why exactly why your dad's hasten now finds out yourself which i shouldn't have done that because i thought she would have been safe with him and unknown to me she wasn't and i went over i drove home and it wasn't until about half 10 at night she sent me a picture sitting at janet's kitchen table and all the pictures of girls naked in underwear a hundred letters as well and i'm looking on her cell phones and i went what's that and she went to that and showed me all the all the pictures and letters girls had sent him and I was just well lost the plot then and I phoned I said send me his number she went now and I phoned Casey for his number and I phoned him called him all the fucking answers and he went haven't you realised yes Ireland is going I went well what do what you're doing come and do it and then he started doing little things like my brothers my younger brothers baby's mum he's got kids of a girl and she lived she's moved now she lived by the Aston and Walton and on she lives on one corner on the opposite corner was a domestic violence refuge so they've got all night vision cameras and he's got off his bike leant on the wall and tried to petrel bomb the house he's never done that himself he only burnt the door so I had to like think wow what are you gonna do next okay if I had a conker so I fell out my old family all over Facebook so we could see so we couldn't go to none of my family so you he had to come to me and that's when he started sitting in my garden Do you think he loves you?

54:49It was weird Did he want to move you in to start a family with you? I don't know but why was he leaving I start? Because Casey his wife said to me she went it's only down on now she went you think something's went on between us he was weird it was weird behaviour But that's Nons behaviour and I can believe it why? Because have you seen the videos of him on TikTok when he's speaking to the 12 and 13 year old girls speaking sexual shit. This is a man nearly 50. Yeah. You just need to type into YouTube Dan G speaking to minors and there's about four or five videos where he's speaking to 12, 13, 14 year old young girls.

55:26Who are you talking? I'll finger your bum hole, mate. Who are you? Who? You seductive little bitch. Who are you talking to? Don't dare say you'll finger my bum hole again or I'll put things in place for it to happen. You are beefing a minor. Look at ya I don't care I don't care If you're a man What about the hat Why the fuck Is he wearing a hat 24-7 I think he thinks He's still Just the age he was When he went to jail Baldy bastard Like he's It's creepy How he can just sit there And talk shit And wear his little hat Take your hat off I'll send you 25 grand Now if you've done A video Wear your hat off Take your hat off And I will donate 25 grand To any charity you want Because he was always Trying to do charity work go fund me he was just scamming people for money you messaged him and asked for that 20 grand yeah hand on my heart i will donate 25 grand to any charity he wants if he takes his hat off in a life no problem but it was weird it was all just it's all weird fucking behavior it was just all creepy it's like and he gets obsessed with people yeah and he talks about everybody people i know Dan Till Billy Moore everybody's a target everybody he speaks about Sam Walker he speaks about everybody because these people are doing something with their life he's doing nothing he's always mentioning people and trying to target people and hate on everybody he speaks about boxers UFC fighters I have boxers on my podcast and they say it's all connected I interview 500 people I interview people from all walks of life but it's just the way he portrays it all and people buy into his his bullshit people buy into his madness you know and that's the the sad reality of it but It's just a fucking weird situation with him.

57:17Like I do regret having the prick on but then again he fuels me sometimes if you see videos just to kick on and show this and this is what I'm doing. I'm not going anywhere. I haven't went anywhere. But you can understand why it puts people back in their shell because of the vile things that he says about people. Like I say people calling people nonces and wife beaters and fucking grasses. it puts people back in their shell because when you come out and speak against them it triggers them it triggers them with hate and more rage and like it's somebody who's very very vulnerable somebody who's very weak when this gets dropped it'll be oh she's a co-head yeah and you're a pothead I struggled with alcohol and cocaine because my fella took his own life and I gave birth to two babies both had 22 weeks with no heartbeat of course we're all addicted to something to numb the pain but I'm in recovery now and yeah I'll probably relapse again it happens it's life don't say that because if you're on a good path then stick to it you know you never know what's around the corner but if you're already on it you don't need to worry what's around the corner yet I come across a video on TikTok of a girl she wasn't from Liverpool saying this one person on TikTok the realist Darren Jay and I just I commented and I put you don't know him and she put I do know enough and I put listen I've known him I've been a part of his family you do not know him he's not the person you're thinking he is they're giving him air time and you know but he's a dad now so what he does in the bible it says what's done today will be done today how bad is he?

58:58he's a monster no I'm the monster he's put it this way he makes Jeffrey's arm look like a fucking walk in the park why is he so protected? because he's a snitch yeah it's a weird one isn't it though it's a fucking dark in there in the exhibits for the court you can take them with you and read through them and Michael Eleanor there's a cockney full blown in Jackson's heroin punter the one who attacked me and in his statement he describes Darren in there to the T and the police knew it was didn't do a thing I was the suspect on my own assault I was unconscious the police statement in there I was unconscious I was either suspect on my own assault What happened?