Anthony Hopkins

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25:37So in 1963, you go to the Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts in London. Now, this is serious. This is big leagues. If you're going to go to school and you're on that side of the world, that's the spot, yeah? Yeah, I did an audition. And I walked on stage and my other gravelly voice said, What are you going to do? I said, Iago from Marthello. So I did the scene, and I had an uncanny understanding of what Iago was. And I finished the scene, and the last line was, I shall make a net that shall enmesh them all. So I said, thank you. And I was about to walk up the stage. This woman's voice, hold on, where are you going?

26:11I said, I'll finish now. Yeah, well, can we talk a moment? I'd rather not. And then out to this gravelly voice came and said, hello, my name's John Fernand Lamperman. Very good, very, very good, yes. Never seen it played that way, but it's wonderful. I said, oh, thank you. And two weeks later, I got a message I was in. Joined in September 1961. When does Laurence Olivier first see you act? Is it while you're a student there? No, no, that was the National Theatre. That was a different story. After you graduated from the... Okay. I got an invitation to go to the National Theatre to audition. And Olivier was running the National Theatre.

26:48It was then at the Old Vic Theatre, which was 1965. 65. I went in and there was a man, he looked like a bank president. It was Lawrence Olivier. So I did the audition. He said, good. He said, well, well done. About a week later, I got a call to join the National Theater in his production of Othello. I had to run on and say the Otomites, Reverend and Gracious, due course, steering towards the Isle of Rhodes. So I went on and spoke Iago's lines instead. Oh, oops. and somebody changed and I thought that's it I'm fine and I knocked at this door to apologise and somebody said Sir Lawrence was very annoyed he was taking his makeup off I said I'm sorry about that oh you went on and spoke to the young he said I thought we were going to stir up the whole bloody play all over again he said by the way that speech the messenger speech let me do it you must really hit it hard I said oh yeah like that yes to counteract the sleeping ghost that was in me that I was incompetent and I was going to be a victim.

27:49I thought, well, no one will ever touch me if I learn the entire role before we even start. I learn it and it paid because nobody could touch me. I mean, you could have some sadistic director and if they did, I would warn them. I'd get up and walk out because I wouldn't put up with it. Being bullied, I was a bit paranoid, I was a little nuts and I would walk away. I said, where are you going? To hell with you. Anyway, so that's what happened. And then he gave me a part in his production of The Three Sisters by Chekhov. Well, you understudied him. I understood him in Dance of Death. And he said, a new young actor in the company of exceptional promise named Anthony Hopkins was understudying me and walked away with the part of Edgar like a cat with a mouse between its teeth.

28:34That's pretty great. Yeah. I was told that night that I was going on stage with him. My God, couldn't believe it. but for goodness no probably fear I just got through it and probably overacted but anyway the audience came in big ovation and I got a call from him next morning he'd snuck out of hospital put a overcoat on and he said I saw you last night you did yeah he said you're very good well done he was very soft-spoken did you have any problems any fears I said no but I went through two shirts, you know, a sweat. That's called tension. How long does it take to get rid of that? About 20 years.

29:14Oh, wow. Do you agree now? Yeah. He said another thing to you, maybe it's apocryphal, but he also said to you, nerves is vanity. You're worried about what the audience will think. Yeah. I think that's incredible advice to hear. You don't have time to be nervous. Get on there and do it. And he said, you know, you may make a mistake. Who cares? It's not important. It is important, but it's not important. Get on there and do it. And if it fails, it fails and so on. Who cares? Yeah, that takes a while to learn, though, don't you think? Well, vanity, ego, you know, when you're young, you think everyone's talking about it.

29:45Nobody cares. Right, right. No, no, they don't. When you look back, have there been some performances where you're like, I shit the bed on that one. That was not good. Oh, yeah, I've done films and things like that. But you thought you personally didn't rise to that challenge? Oh, yeah. It may sound weird, blasphemous, but it's only acting. I think you have to get there for your survival or you can't do it for a long time. Stupid example, but I got asked to come honor my rheumatologist, right? And in the audience is, I don't know, there's a few hundred people and they're much older than me. And I make a couple jokes and they do not like them.

30:23They don't either get them or they just didn't like them. And I was riding home on my motorcycle. I was like, yeah, you didn't do well. You'll live and you'll go to somewhere else and you might be fine the next time. But I'd have learned to just be able to let that go. You've got to let it go. Finally, nobody gives a damn anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's important to hear you say that as the best that's ever done it, because so many people do sit with, oh, I need to do better, I need to do better, or I'm not good enough. So to hear you say it, I think, is helpful. I do at the same time, Mrs.

30:52Dichotomy, I do try to be cautious about what I say, because people have different values. And for some people, things are very important. I mean, some people find their job is acting important. I'd do it fine. I don't want to bring on their parade. So what I say is the degree of caution. I'm dispassionated about it, but I don't want to offend anyone because there's a lot of pain in the world. But what I say is finally maybe approaching 88. I've no idea how much longer I've got, but I just think I'll don't take it all so seriously. Yeah. And when I was working 60 years ago almost with Peter O'Toole and Catherine Knapp, and I was taken aback when they were knocking my door the theatre and there was Peter O'Toole so I want you to do an audition film test so anyway I ended up in Ireland doing interior scenes with Catherine Hepburn and O'Toole I was thinking I thought am I dreaming yeah she was great to work with she knew everyone on the crew she was that old style Hollywood actress my god how many lucky you're getting a suntan in the middle of January and come on beats working for a living yeah I always remember this moment beats working.

32:00Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the line in Winter? She said the exact same thing that Olivia said. It's just very important, and at the same time, it's not important at all. Yeah. You were nominated for a BAFTA for that. Yeah. Which is your first movie. Did it shock you, or did you feel like, oh, okay, this makes sense? It surprised me. There's much better actors than me around, much more accomplished. But for some reason, I think it was the burliness. So I was strong. I was tough and arrogant and all that stuff, I guess. But I was sure of myself inside. A very big movie that came next was Young Winston.

32:38And it's the first of five times you and Richard Attenborough collaborated. I'm just curious, what do you think was your guys' unique connection that allowed you guys to keep coming back together? I think he saw something in me that was rebellious. And I was slightly mad. I've always been that. You know, something that's not to be trusted in a way. Something that's unpredictable. And maybe that's in our nature. Maybe it's in my nature. I have no idea. I'm not a psychotherapist. But I think there's something unpredictable in my very nature, which comes from the past. Not that I'm crazy in any sense.

33:12I don't believe that. But maybe that's a sense. And I remember that was in something dangerous about you. I remember Jonathan Demme when my agent phoned me one afternoon in 1989. It was in a play in West End. And he said, I'm sending a script over called Silence of the Lambs. I said, was it a kid's story? He said, no, no. Anything but. Played the part of Lexi. He says, it's not a very big part, but it's with Joni Foster. I said, oh, she just won an Oscar. And he said, yeah. But he read it. I said, yeah. So I started reading the script and I phoned him. I said, this is the best part. He said, it's a very small part.

33:43I said, I know how to play it. He phoned back. He said, Jonathan Demme is coming to see you tomorrow on Saturday from New York. It's an offer. I said, OK. So Jonathan arrived on the Saturday. Came backstage and we went off around to a local restaurant. I was curious. Why me? He said, don't you want to play the bass? Yes, but why did you choose me? He said, I saw you in The Elephant Man playing Dr. Treves. I saw what's that got to do with the lecture. He said, well, there's something in you that I think you can do it. I said, well, okay. He said, do you have any idea? I said, I know exactly what I'm going to do.

34:16He said, like what? I said, like how the computer in 2001. A few months later, I was in Pittsburgh. We'll be filming the cell scene. And Jonathan was very nice. I met Jodie, and she was very nice. As I quote him, Jodie never spoke to him. That's not true. We were quite friendly. There's nothing spooky about it. That's publicity crap, you know. But we did the first reading, and I knew how to play it. It was the first reading around the table in New York, of all places. So we finished the script, and Kenny, out of the producers, says, holy Moses, Tony, what is that? I said, no. And Jodie said, you're scary.

34:52but the scene when she comes down the corridor to meet Lecter he was very flexible he's the director he said how do you want Jodie to see you he said we'll have the camera it'll be her point of view would you be sitting down or lying down or asleep or reading books he said no I'd like to stand stand in the middle of the cell I say I can smell her coming down the corridor he said yo we got the right guy for this role so they did the scene and the camera the crew were up there As the camera came, I heard John sing, Oh, he moves. Yeah. I said, Good morning, you're not real FBI, are you? All the way to the FBI.

35:31Is it the most fun you've ever had playing a character? Oh, it's wonderful. You know what you look like to me with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. Well, it's a crab-dustling rube with a little taste. He knows how to needle up. And all her vulnerability. But it's the right mix of charming, too. Terrifying devil. I met a couple of people like that who were vicious and cruel. Subtle. Horrible. Interesting as well. All the way to the FBI.

36:02When you're in character like that, when you come out of it, are you like, wow. No. I really went somewhere. You're not. You learn your lineshow. Hit the mark. Hope the catering is good. Yeah. You're honest about being sober or no? You don't like talking about being sober? It can be pretty boring. I was drunk. I drank a lot. What was it like? It was fun, you know. Booze works very quickly, and it changes your relationship, the space around you. It relaxes everything, and it's a false courage. And drinking is a very common thing. It's dianycin, I suppose. But I remember being insecure and all that stuff.

36:35Go and have a couple of jars and a couple of drinks, and things suddenly look relaxed, and you think, oh, this is good. And it is, and you're going to have some fun. Whether you're a lone drinker or a public drinker, you go and have some fun. You're all actors who drink because we're rebels. Yeah. But finally, I was just lucky to have enough brain cells left to say, you're going to die. Yeah. Because I was doing stupid things like driving my car and doing dumb things. We do dumb stuff when we're drunk. It's part of the fun. I get into fights with people and it's horrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:03A change of personality is to kind of induce schizophrenia. But what I'm curious about is once you got sober and you started, I'm assuming this happened to me, is I'm kind of learning why I am the way I am to some degree, right? If I'm working these steps and I do the fourth step and all of a sudden I go, oh, wow, this is illuminating. My whole life is being controlled by like three fears. That's interesting. I now know what I have to work on as a person if I want to be in harmony. Did that exploration start impacting your work in an interesting way? What I'm told by an old guy who'd been around for many years His name was Jack Bailey, and he's a comedian and well-known personality.

37:46He took an interest in me, and he was a wonderful son of a few, but he was smoking a cigarette. He said, how are you doing, kid? And I said, I'm all right. Yeah, I'm fine. You happy? I said, yeah, is that okay? Yeah, you dummy. That's what he came here for, to be happy. Yeah. I said, how long have you got now? A few months. Good for you. Don't take the first drink. That's all you have to remember. He said, another thing, don't listen to the gurus. He said, you know, it's not a mathematical formula, this. Live your life. Sure, you can do the steps, but live your life, enjoy it. Because there were some people, Richard, you know, and he said avoid them because they're nuts.

38:21He said they may have to do it that way, but you don't have to fall into their trap. He knew one of the guys was trying to take control of me. He said, no, just walk away. Enjoy your life. He said, this is what it's for. I mean, 50 years is so long. It's changed so much. Like my father went to treatment in 87, and it was still shameful. now I have no shame saying I'm an addict. Most people I interview that are addicts have no problem saying it. It's really changed in the last 50 years, right? Yeah. Was it hard participating while being famous? No, don't take that into consideration at all. Okay.

38:59I mean, you know, I go to meetings and some people will recognize me. I'm fine with that. That doesn't bother me. I'm just a drunk like all the rest of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And accessible and all that. and will be helpful. But I will never preach, lay down the law, or talk it all the time because it becomes boring for people. So I'm very easygoing about it. Have you had any scary situations in the last 50 years? Have you been close at any point in those 50 years of going like, I was so young, what the fuck? Oh, no, no. The craving left immediately. I'm not that sociable, but we had a bunch of people over when I was in England recently for dinner.

39:40lunch. We've got some wine. I said, as long as people don't drive, get a car to pick them up. If they want a drink, then fine. But no, no, if I have another drink, I'll even overpour their glasses. I prefer people drink around me than not to appease me. You had kind of a moment that, as you said, I don't belong anywhere. I'm a loner. But in the dresser, when Ian McKellen said it was wonderful, you said, we got on so well. And I suddenly felt at home as though the the lack of belonging was all in my imagination and all in my vanity. I think this is a very profound moment. When is the dresser? 2015.

40:18We had a ball. We had a wonderful time. That's what he's got. He's got charisma, muscle. He's powerful. He's daring. He's courageous. And we had a lot of laughs. Yeah. Could make you laugh. But when you have this realization, and I know you're not one to feel bad for yourself, but when you realize I'm not alone, Do you go, oh, why did I spend so much time? Yeah, there's all paranoia. I don't know. Do you have any kind of sadness or regret that it took you that long to realize? You can't regret things like that. I think I felt insecure because I was so lucky, really. I'm just lucky all the way through my life.

40:53And I think I shouldn't have been so lucky. Because people have tough times, struggling to. And I've just been given this good fortune. You feel guilty about it? Well, no, not anymore. But I do look back and with curiosity, I think, how extraordinary that this happened to me. And all these opportunities came to me. So I never complain. You know, I was talking about the acting business and all that. I've known actors who've struggled for years and never quite made it. And I just don't know what it's about. Like why you? Yeah, why things happened to me the way they did. So I've got no ounce of complaint to me or regret.

41:31But working with Ian was great. I have one curiosity about your acting, and it's about you being a composer. So you were also a very active musician your whole life, and you even paused acting for a while to tour with some of your compositions. For some odd reason, it comes naturally to me. Improvise on the piano, and I improvise, and then I got a friend, Stephen Barton, who has a studio at the Weather Beatles. Abbey Road? Abbey Road. Go to the studio, and he's got sound equipment. And all the samples of every instrument there is, pure samples. of real cellos, real cellos. So I'd pick and choose.

42:06Let me start with an oboe or something like that. Yeah, cello. Yeah. The sound that's produced is so accurate. Even on a cello, you can hear the grind of a string. Yeah. They're so perfect. They're all done by German engineers, I believe. Real samples. So you're listening to a real cello, but electronically manipulated. I don't know how the hell it works. Yeah. But I'd use that because it's useful. Then it flows. I mean, I was listening to something. I thought, how the hell did I write that? I don't know. Right. I don't know. I mean, there's one that's called fanfare. Then it goes into a march.

42:37Now, remember the day, working it out, sitting there, keyboard. I just want to do this as a fanfare. Okay, everything. Tombones, trumpets. I said, I want to put a brass in there and another horn. And then suddenly it turned into a march. She's got the scores ready. And Stella is behind my life. Extraordinary. She said, let's talk to a conductor. and we got a conductor of the London Philharmonic. And he came to the studio just to say, hello, lovely man. Can I hear something? I see. You just did that? I see. Well, we're in the middle of it now. And I went to rehearsals at the London Philharmonic.

43:15I couldn't believe I'm sitting there. This is impossible. Yeah, yeah. Are you afraid to even try to figure out how you can do it? Are you superstitious? No, I just know that there's a way of doing it. Just let the music come to you. Which are you more proud of, the acting work or the music stuff? Both. Not one more than the other? No. But again, don't take myself too seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just lucky. Yeah. And I paint and I draw and all that. You're just artistic. Yeah. Stella told me, she said she found some old scripts before we got married, some old scripts I'd kept in the cupboard.

43:49And I doodled, you know, drawings. And she were a painter. I saw it. I come in. She, of course you can. Do it. I said, no. She went, you can do anything. Go on, just do it. So I got some canvases. because it's always the salt out little boy from Portor, but get some canvases. And I say, I can't be doing with oil paints because it takes too long to dry. I say, I want to paint fast. So we've got acrylics. And suddenly I produced these paintings and I had a show of them and sold them. I'm not supposed to say this, but I'm fast. I work fast. I like to work fast because it means that you cut down your choices.

44:24Too many choices, you get fat and lazy. Just do it fast. If you make a mistake, okay, go over it. Yeah. Who cares? Brush it out. Paint over it. Write music over it, whatever. Anyone who's listening who has a young son who is seemingly directionless in getting kicked out, I hope this is so hopeful for them that you just don't know what the future is. You don't know. Believe in yourself totally. Yeah. Even though you may think it's a lie, believe in yourself. Never give in to what other people say you are. Never give them the chance to put you down. Because you do that yourself anyway. Put yourself down.

45:03But don't let other people put you down. You get out there and you do it. And you may fail. You may run into a wall. So what? You get up and you do it. Especially when you're young. You've got the guts and the strength to do it. And the stupidity. Yeah, and the stupidity. Be stupid. Just have a go at it. Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid. Yeah. Well, Mr. Hopkins, we're so flattered that you were... willing to come on the show. We've both obviously just loved watching so many wonderful performances. Your book is wonderful. And it's very, like I said, unexpected, which I think is delightful.

45:36Well, I'm really grateful. I'm really grateful that you liked it. Yes, it's wonderful. Yeah, and we're going to play some of it for our listening audience, too. They're going to get a little clip of it. Oh, good. We'll have audio. Yeah. Yeah. I had to go old-fashioned and read with my eyeballs. But thank you. Yes, it's delightful to meet you. And thanks for making the big trip out here. And I hope everyone checks out the book It is called, appropriately, We Did Okay, Kid. That photograph on the back of the book, that photograph of my father, I was three and a half in Abravan on the beach because during the war he didn't go into the army.

46:09He was lucky, but he had to do some national service. He was in the Observer Corps, that's the RF, which was plotting aircraft, German, American, British, reporting movements of aircraft, warning the center in Cardiff. It was a network of observation. Anyway, I was there. Lost little kid like we all are. Feeling hopeless or lost, you know. And I look at them and think, we did okay, kid. Yeah. That's beautiful. But whatever it is, you know. It worked out just fine. Yeah. Thank you so much. I hope everyone checks out the book. Thank you both. Thank you both. Now, before we go to the fact check, we're going to play an excerpt from We Did Okay, Kid.

46:50I'm an alcoholic and I need help. I told my agent. He got me the time off I needed to focus on getting treatment. The tradition I belong to suggests that it's much better to change lives one person at a time by helping them one-on-one rather than by crowing to the world about having found a cure for one's affliction. This is known in the rooms as attraction rather than promotion. And so I will say only that if you are starting to wake up to the ways in which alcohol is ruining your life, as I did to the ways it was ruining mine, there are people out there who will take you out for coffee. You can find them in every city and town at every hour of the day.

47:35I still go to meetings now myself, almost fifty years after getting sober. The day after my revelation, I went out for lunch with my friend Bob Palmer, who brought along his friend George. They were going to take me to my first twelve-step meeting. I was in a state of shock because the urge to drink had gone. I saw a waiter carrying a tray with a glass of red wine across the room. How strange that I used to drink that, I thought. How are you feeling, Bob asked. Inadequate, he said. You are. That floored me. He explained that I had so little power. I was unable to predict what would happen in the next three minutes.

48:20Therein lay terror, but also freedom, if we accepted it. At the first AA meeting I attended, I was moved by the speaker's story. He's just like me, I thought. He was a truck driver, not an actor, but we were the same. I had something in common with everyone in that room. We were drunks, and we didn't want to drink anymore. I thought, they're all misfits like me, like all of us. We feel we never belong. We feel self-hatred. All of us are the same. I'm not alone. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare. He is an armchair expert, but he makes mistakes all the time. Thank God Monica's here.

49:09She's gotta let him have the facts. Do I have lipstick all over my face? No, you don't at all. Okay. Because you touched it up from eating dad's oatmeal. I did. Do you want to tell people about dad's oatmeal? Because this could be the first unbiased review. Yes. Okay. So you eat the same breakfast every day. Yeah. 365. And I got to try it today. Uh-huh. Before you give the review, what was your guess at what it was? It tasted like. Like, blah. Blant. Yeah. What's this, mom? Oh, I made you something. Let me try it. Oh, like that would be the commercial. Yeah, that's the. Why can't we have Lucky Charms?

49:52It's like a Lucky Charms. Yeah, it's 100 % a cereal commercial. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. So I just thought it would be kind of bland because it's healthy. Yeah, right. Can I do the commercial again? Okay, sure. You be the mom. Give it to me. Here, honey. Enjoy your breakfast. Okay, I'll try it. Tastes good for me. do you think that'd be a good commercial i want lucky charms with your hand falling out like that that's a really sad boy tastes good for me i think you booked it that was good they are gonna ask um can you shave out your tooth shave my beard yeah exactly can we age you down a little bit well of Of course, I wouldn't have my tooth in because when I eat, I have to take my tooth out.

50:42Or it's like Lucky Charms causes your teeth to fall out. Right. That's allegedly. Mom would say, she'd say, well, hon, what happened the last time you ate Lucky Charms? Ding! Your tooth fell out. Anyway, so I thought it was going to be blah. Yeah. And I tried it and it is really good. It's really good. I'm glad that you tried it. And it doesn't even look that appealing. Other than I dressed it up with fresh blueberries, that part probably made it look a little exciting. A little bit. But it's, yeah, it's a mush. It's a big bowl of mush. Yeah. And it's a big, big bowl. Huge bowl. And as I was telling you, this is my big reward.

51:21Yeah, you said it's time for my reward. And I was like, ooh, what's your reward? And then it was the same thing you do every day. How many days do you think you've had it? Like how many months have you been eating this concoction? Over two years. This exact one? No. Okay, yeah. The flesh, and that works, the fresh blueberries, the fleshy fresh blueberries. I got into about probably nine months ago. And now that's like my real obsession. I put so, I put, I buy so many blueberries. It's crazy because I'll eat half of the tray per bowl of porridge. Oh my gosh. They have great antioxidants. Oh yeah, yeah.

52:02This is, I'm going to argue like if you, you could only have one meal to be perfectly healthy. Yeah. I think this is it. I'm going to poke a hole. Okay. But can I hit you with the macros first? Yeah. Okay. So it has, this bowl of oatmeal has upwards of 60 grams of protein. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a big boy's serving of protein. Big bowl. Baby like big bowl. That's what Eric says. A very good amount of fiber, which is elusive. Fiber is hard to get. Fiber is hard. So, yes, I like that. And then probably more antioxidants than any other frigging meal you could put together with that amount of blueberries, half a rack.

52:44Okay. Okay. Time to poke a hole. And wait, what was I? Fiber. Oh, also, people have predicted that fiber is the new protein. Oh. As far as like everyone's into fiber and you got to have it and you got to get the amount you need to get. So that's that's ahead. OK, right. And by the way, guys, Lane Norton has been saying this for years. Protein and fiber. You look at all these different studies. Huge. The big thing they all have in common for longevity is like you got to have a lot of fiber and you got to have a lot of protein. Yeah. And you got to have a lot of chocolate. You got to have a lot of wine.

53:27A lot of martinis. But you gave it a passing grade. I loved it. Okay, you give it an eight? I was shocked because your concoction is oats, Bob's Red Mill. Swear by it. And Justin's honey almond butter. Yeah, uh-huh. And I don't remember the brand, strawberry protein. Oh, Lane Norton's strawberry protein. Oh, wow. Because it's isolate, which I need. For people who are lactose intolerant or get upset stomach from whey, if you get isolate or isolate. It's better. There's none of the, what I, I assume there's no lactose in it, which is what I think gives you the upset stomach. Okay. Well, so. See, I said I think a lot and I think.

54:14So I don't want anyone to quote me. You think, yeah. I think and I think. And normally I'm pretty turned off. I can be turned off by protein powders because it does give the bad taste. To me, there's a taste that lingers that I really am not a fan of. Like, I like it when I'm eating it, but then there's an aftertaste. Okay. And can you tell me the brands you've tried? I can't remember. Okay. Okay. Because there's a huge difference in the different brands. I will say that. I've had tons of protein powder. I'm like, ugh, it's chalk. That's disgusting. Yeah. But I have two I'm in love with. Well, this strawberry one that goes in your breakfast is really good.

54:50Again, it's all counterintuitive. Why would strawberry protein powder work in blueberry oatmeal? Fruits. I guess. Fruit medley. I guess. It just doesn't seem like that would be good, but somehow that comes together, especially with the almond butter. Yeah, it's really nice. That's the other big secret sauce in there. Yeah. Okay, now my hole that I'm poking. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think in order for it to be the healthiest meal on planet Earth, I would like a green vegetable in there. You don't think the blueberries handles that? No. Okay. It's good. Yeah. I'm glad it's there. Monty, how are we adding any green vegetables to this?

55:35That's my problem. I don't think we can call it that because I don't think you can add any green vegetables to that. You could put mint. No, that doesn't count. Well, I mean, that's the least terrible option. Mint is an herb, Rob. It's green. It's green as hell. It's a green herb, and I'm looking for a green vegetable. I'm looking for spinach. I know. But it can't go. It doesn't. That'll have to be lunch. Okay. Yeah. You got to work on spinach in your lunch. That's fine. Okay. And you'd really, ideally, you'd want a little omegas in there. So you want some fish. I think you should smash up some fish in there.

56:15Well, I do my fish oil. What's our sponsor? Because that is actually what I use. Yeah, Nordic Naturals. Nordic Naturals. Yeah, every night before bed, it's three Nordic Naturals. Yeah, but I'm just saying, if you're saying this meal on its own, we need a little green vegetable. Okay, counter to your counter. Okay. You have to propose a different dish that would be better. Because I think you might find your way over to a spinach ditch. That would be great. But then I think it would really drop the ball on a lot of other categories. The fiber and the protein and the antioxidants. So I might have the antioxidants.

56:57And I think it's maybe fibrous. But regardless. So this is like, yeah, there's never going to be a perfect meal. Right. Unless you're just making a smoothie. Well, yeah. Which I used to do. Yeah. It's too much of a cleanup. I don't like it. That's my issue. Yeah. It's also too cold for my mouth. I think it is ironic that I've been making fun of Wilford Brimley for 40 years now in those oatmeal commercials. And lo and behold, that's my most consistent meal. Same as you made fun of Catheter Cowboy and then you had to get one. And then I had Cath. Yeah. And I don't like pain when I cath. Just like him.

57:31Exactly. Have we not spoken since Halloween? I guess not. Yeah, no fact check. Wow. That feels so long for a catch-up. Yeah. For the audience, for the cherries. I guess the Halloween was Friday and today is Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about Halloween. Okay, but hold on. We can't go on without addressing your tooth. Oh, I thought it'd be cool if we didn't address my tooth, but I'm happy to. Okay, yeah, there's no way. I've been wanting a gold tooth for, I don't know, seven years. I think even when we interviewed Kirby. Oh, yeah. Didn't we discuss it? I think we did. Do you know somebody? I think we did.

58:13And then our good friend Eric found for me this dentist that we both go to. Who would have known that this very normal, classy dentist also does gold teeth and shit? Yes. So I had a grill made. Yeah. That was first. I mean, I should wear that in one of these fact checks. That one's not very attractive. Okay. It's intentionally not. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Because it's for a character I'm going to play. Oh, thank you. Okay. Oh, yeah. I guess I assumed you knew that somehow. No, I didn't. Okay. Okay. So the grill is for a character I'm playing. Got it. That they did not ask for. But great. Okay, fun. And then I, and it was, it came at some expense for me to have this thing made.

58:57Sure. Well, acting is expensive in the heart. It takes a toll. You pay a price. I sent a photo to the showrunner and I was like, look, use them. Don't use them. I don't care. I did have these. Yeah. And God bless. He said, use them for sure. Right. Yes. Oh, fun. And I don't think that's a topic I can tackle. I'm well, I'll tackle it. I am having again. And I think it's in the effort of being honest or in the pursuit of honesty. I don't need to make money for the acting. Right. So I said to them, I don't just pay me the minimum. Oh, please pay me minimum. Give it to another actor you want to hire for the budget.

59:38Right. It's not even that nice of me, but, but for me, it was so. That's a huge growth. It was an emotional thing where it's like, I used to be so panicked all the time. Like, please, you got to pay me the most. Cause I probably never work again. That whole thing. And this is like, I just want to come play and you guys don't have to pay me. I know you legally, you have to, but whatever the minimum of that is. Wow. that's huge that's really awesome yeah it feels great and actually it's how i should have been started acting well you can't though but also there's a reality yeah money we don't have to we need it yeah we need it and so you are lucky enough to not and i don't need it now yeah and now i can act solely that's great to go play with people i think would be fun to play with and it's, I love it.

1:00:27That's great. Okay, now the tooth. Okay, the tooth. So then the tooth I just always wanted. So the tooth is for me. Sure, okay. So it's nothing to do with the jobs or, okay. No, no, no. And how do you feel with the tooth in? How do you feel? I'm largely unaware of it other than I like to play with the backing with my tongue. Yesterday was day one with it. I went to the movies and you got to take it out to eat. But I was like, man, get away with some popcorn. Oh, God. Because I can throw it past the gold tooth and just get it on the molars. Oh, my gosh. So I did mess around with some popcorn with it still in.

1:01:07Okay. And then I went to, now this is a big thing I learned yesterday. I went out to lunch with a friend and I took it out. And I'm like, I have nowhere to put it. So I put it in the tiny little pocket of my jeans so I won't lose it there. and then when the meal was over and I wanted to put my tooth back in the backside it was like it's like the back of earrings the back oh so it's like it had poked through the denim and I could not get it out it was like embedded in my it has a post yeah on the backside there's two like um uh what do they call them vampire clips like you'd have on a mic oh to snap into your tooth and so not only did those puncture the denim and were caught in there like I was like trying to get a fishing hook out of my pocket and and then it was all miscalibrated oh shit i had bent up the fucking day one yeah yeah so then i recalibrated them and then a lot of the movie i was like i didn't do that right this feels really tight like a orthodontia now is it is it um did they do anything to your actual tooth oh no okay okay well they took a mold which is how they make at.

1:02:19Right. But then they didn't like have to like shave anything down or anything. Right. Oh man. You're really getting all the secrets out of me. So he's like, close your mouth. Okay. It's hitting here. You know what we ended up doing, which feels insane. Veneers. No, we ended up grinding my real tooth down a little bit. So it would fit with my fake tooth. And I was like, is this, what am I, this is like a, like a fad I'm going through and I've already altered my bottom seat to match this fad. I wasn't going to tell anyone that part. Yeah. Oh, you told me. And now you told everyone. Which one did they share?

1:02:51So this one's now a little. He's like, that one's too big anyways. He sold me on it like that. The one that's now small? The baby tooth? No. I got the one that goes backwards. The jacked one. And then next to that is this one. You think that's small now? Oh, my God. It's fine. You do know the look on your face was like, it looks small. It's shorter than, it's shorter. It's shorter. Why do you do that? So it would fit my fake tooth. Okay. All right. It's fine. It's great. I knew I shouldn't tell you that detail. No, it's great. It looks great. But I did go, this is nuts. I'm grinding my real teeth down.

1:03:25And then I'm like, I don't know. Who cares? I also think who cares a lot. Oh, my God. I'm a little. Mom, this tastes good for me.

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1:03:51oh boy okay um now halloween okay halloween it was spectacular so fun per usual hayride by you hayride was louder and brighter it was so it's so great you sent me a very nice text a couple days later. Yeah, and I meant it. Like, it's a very, very special thing you do for the neighborhood. Everyone in the neighborhood hops on and is in such a good mood and it's such a community builder. And we just don't have things like that anymore. And it's a really special thing. It's kind of small towny, which I like. You're like in LA, but it's very small towny. Really, it's just the like everyone coming together and cheering and being excited.

1:04:40I did. And it's very special. It is very special. You did it. It is very special. And my brother was there for the first time. He rode with me the whole night and he did some filming, which was lovely. That's his new hobby. Oh. And it was a great, like, getting to spend three hours with my brother driving around. Yeah. It's just funny because siblings is funny, right? So sometimes when I would make the turn into the alley, people would cheer. Yeah, I cheered. Thank you. And you probably let it cheer because you know I like that. And I'm a cheerleader. And you're, yes, you have the credentials.

1:05:11And then other times crickets. Oh, okay. So my brother would be like, oh, crickets. You know, like he was like making fun of me a little bit, which was very good natured. Yeah. And then if they would cheer, he would be like, oh, god damn it, I should have been recording. But then a couple of times I would yell out the window. Yeah. And he's like, it's kind of a cheat because you're kind of initiating the channel. It's like, you're right. That is a little. Okay. It doesn't count. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And then, yeah, we had the In-N-Out truck. You guys went all out. It's so fun.

1:05:46Yeah, you guys got an In-N-Out truck for the neighborhood. It's for so many people to enjoy, and it's really lovely. Halloween is a special holiday because everyone shows up eventized. They've put together a costume. So, like, everyone's arrival is fun for them. It's fun for you. Yeah. Everyone feels special because you're getting the attention. They're trying to figure out your costume. Yeah. So it's just like very heightened. In some ways, it's a very vulnerable holiday. Tell me more. Because. If you go like sexy. If you do anything, you're just deciding to like put yourself out there, participate.

1:06:22Yeah. And look silly, perhaps. Like I always feel it because I normally park a street down. Uh-huh. And I remember when we did Harry Potter Halloween and I was Rita Skeeter and I had a wig and it's like bright green outfit. You look like a little schoolgirl, as I remember, didn't you? No, I mean, she did have a quill, but no, she was a lady. She's a lady. Yeah. Oh, last year I was a little Mary-Kate and Ashley. Oh, that's the overalls. Yeah, that was the overalls. I'm thinking more of the bookworm. But I guess you were a teacher, but it came across as like a - I was a journalist. Okay. Anywho, it was really a look.

1:07:09Yeah. And I remember when I parked and I got out of my car, I was like, oh my, I got it. I can't do this. Yeah. Like, I don't think this walk, I'm going to make it. Like, I'm so embarrassed. Oh, wow. But then as soon as I enter with all these people doing the same thing, it was gone. and happy. So I think it's vulnerable. Do you know the story about Charlie? Getting in the fight? Yeah. Yeah, please tell it. It's so good. Okay. Again, for people, I know everyone knows, we did mashups. That was our theme. Right. And quickly to explain a mashup, you're going to come, they're going to share one mutual word.

1:07:51Yes. So what was Carrie Bradshaw Shank Redemption? Yes. It was Kristen. Yes, that was Kristen. You were Ro Ro. The row, row, row your bow. The row, row your bow. It has to be the row because it was the row. Yes, right. I was for Ariana Grande. You were for Ariana Grande. People were upset because in the picture I posted, you had left. So you weren't in the adult picture, which was a bummer. Oh. There was one with you with the kids, but I didn't post that, obviously. Okay. Anyway. Okay. Charlie and Erica and their two children were on their way and they were close to the house. And they, Erica was Edward Scissor Handmaid's Tale.

1:08:31Really? Hers was great. It was so good. Yeah. And Charlie was hot dog the bounty hunter. And he crushed it. It was so good. But he's in this huge hot dog costume. He's in a huge hot dog. And he has the huge blonde wig on with the braids in the side. Yeah. And as we know, Perfect 10 Charlie is enormous. Yes. A human. Yeah. And now they're on their way to the party and he somehow pissed off a motorcycle. Yes. They got in a tiff. He like, and he waved and apologized. And that wasn't enough. Yeah. So when Charlie turned into our driveway, the motorcycle decided to come back and get in front of his car in our driveway.

1:09:08Yeah. And let him have it. Yes. And he did this. Yeah. He made that cutting your throat side. Yes. Which is so weird. And Charlie, it's funny. Charlie and I were bonding over this because this happened to me more than once, which is like, I'm nice. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And if you're now indulgent and you're in, then I go, okay, motherfucker. Like then I snap. Well, also it wasn't just like you owe me an apology. He was threat. He was being like so aggressive and threatening. Yes. So ultimately it got to the point where Charlie said fuck this and got out of the car. Yeah. And this motorcyclist, What could he have thought?

1:09:48First of all, he's a hot dog. And he's Dog the Bounty Hunter. And he's huge. And he's screaming at this guy as a huge hot dog. Hot Dog the Bounty Hunter. I wish there was video of that. Me too, so badly. It was so sitcom-esque, this idea of a Halloween fight and these people looking absolutely ridiculous. A hot dog gets out. Oh, my God. And like so serious. Yes. And if you got beat up by a hot dog, that would be so humiliating. Anyway, the Hayride was fantastic. And the neighborhood took it to another level. Oh, my God. Yes. I believe we can credit a friend of the pod for this. Yeah, I wonder.

1:10:39I'm not sure. But I do think. I do, too. Yes. Ellen Pompeo. Yes. Friend of the pod. She was like, oh, you want to do a hayride? I got tricks too. Yes. And she hired six professional actors to be zombies. Yes. Going around the neighborhood like you were at Not Scary Farm or Universal Horror Night. Yes. So we worked in perfect concert with the hayride because people would be on the hayride and all of a sudden zombies were like chasing them and stuff. Yes. It became the haunted hayride. It was so amazing. And it really, again, just the commitment. Yeah. I did get a little, I mean, I was personally extremely scared.

1:11:25Yeah. There is a very funny husband-wife story that came out of this, right? Which is like, I pull up into the same spot in the neighborhood every time for people to unload and load. Yes. And people know that's where you get on or off the hayride. So I pull up and Kristen's there and she's like, you got to go find these zombies. And I go, what? She's like, you have to talk to the zombies. You got to tell them, tell them they got to stop scaring kids. Oh, I was nervous about that. And I go, oh, hon, I can't deliver. Sure. Like, that's just what this day is. Yeah. And she's like, three little kids have already left.

1:12:05And I was like, oh, fuck. I know. We don't want that. We don't want kids leaving Halloween. I know. So I'm like, oh, you know me. I want to be cool. Of course. So I'm like, fuck. And I'm the one that's going to see Ellen next because I'll be at the top of the hill. And it's such a cool thing she's doing. It's so cool. Yeah. So I get to the top of the hill and she's out in front of her house. And I go, hey, I really hate delivering this note. I think it goes against the spirit of the holiday. But if the zombies could maybe not scare the little kids. Okay, great. And she's like, yeah, yeah, zombies don't.

1:12:40She didn't care at all. I don't think the zombies cared at all. OK, but I did have to like clamp down on the zombies, which felt really compromising. Yeah, but probably was the right thing. I did think I did think, oh, like these are scary. Oh, yeah. And what about these little kids? If I'm scared, some left, Monica, is what I was told. We walked. Yeah, Rob, what was what were the boys? We walked up there first and Vinny was leading the charge, like just walking. And they laid off him. One feet tall. But even just seeing them is a little scary. Yeah. Did they give Calvin hell? Yeah, yeah. They chased Calvin a little bit.

1:13:25Did he like it or hate it? He loved it. Oh, good. Yeah, that's the thing. You don't know who's going to love it and who's not. One of the zombies knew my name. Oh. Which was flattering. Yes. But also scary. I didn't like it. Right. I'm a car. Oh, wow. That's what she did. It was a girl. Yeah, I think. Because what if it was one of the boy zombies? Oh, she called you pretty? Yeah, which is nice. Oh, this is all very flattering. But it was too scary. Want to date you. Maybe it was Groff or whatever. What's his name? Groot? No, not Groot. The grandson. son, the scary singer. Oh! Gwar. Gwar. The horned pig-faced goblin?

1:14:13Yeah, maybe it was actually Gwar. What's his name? Blothar the Berserker. Blothar the Berserker. We should have invited Gwar to the... Fuck, should we have Gwar? Oh my god, we find... Because I'm like, this whole night, I'm like, we've peaked. I really don't even know if we should host next year. Well, you have to, yeah. But fuck, If you got to the top of the turnaround and Guar was on a stage up there shooting blood out of their penises and stuff, you think kids were leaving with the zombies? Wait to Blothar the Blizzaster. Penises out. We've got to get Guar performing in the neighborhood. This made me ask him to wear pants over all those penises.

1:14:54Yeah. Desexualize it a little bit. Just a little bit on Halloween. I guess that's it for Halloween. It was just really fun. Yeah, it was so much fun. It was really, really fun. What a holiday. One thing we need to talk about. Oh, God, yes. And we're adorned in it right now. So not a problem. Not a problem. Our new merch is the best we've had ever. Absolutely ever. It's so high quality. This is actual embroidery. Embroidered. And yeah, so for the listener, you might want to go to YouTube to see it. I'm wearing a sweatshirt. Black. Gorgeous sweatshirt. Gorgeous sweatshirt. It says armchair expert.

1:15:28Has a crow on it. It has a little mouse on the sleeve. Uh-huh. Tiny mouse. Very cute little mouse. And I really can't get around over the quality. The quality's off the charts. I, and I've been wearing this nonstop. Yeah. I wear it like four days in a row. Yeah. It just got out of the wash though for today. Finally, a really great station shirt. And then I'm going to turn around and look at the back. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. Hey y 'all, really great station. So this is going to be available. in time for Christmas. In time for the holidays, but it's coming out November 14th for pre-order. November 14th for pre-order.

1:16:06And there's other stuff too. There's plenty there's lots of stuff. Oh, I got a hoodie here too. A new gorgeous hoodie. Oh yeah, show the hoodie. I'm going to show off the hoodie. It has a cute crow embroidered. Gosh, yeah. Oh my god. It also has a mouse on the sleeve. Anna has cherries on the hood. But it's all very minimal and like cheap. It's very discreet. It's a really good looking collection, guys. Yeah, I applaud you, Monica. You really spearheaded and steamrolled. What is it? What are the words we use? You're really micromanaged. Well, you made people's life hell to get here. Yeah, well, you know.

1:16:44You really did all this and it turned out great. I'm so into it. It's a really nice classic collection and we're excited to put it out. I think I was wearing one the other day, too. There's a super cute heart-shaped cherries. I love that one. Yeah. What does it say on that one? Just armchair? Nothing. Okay. Have a good time. Have a great time. We love it here. Guar. Vote for Guar. Yeah. So go check that out and pre-order and it'll be for domestic. It'll be ready by the holidays. Buy yourself something for Christmas. Yeah, do it. You deserve it. Okay. So I started watching a show, an old show. Me too.

1:17:22Oh my God. Well, it's in the air. What did you watch? No, I don't want to trump your thing. Defending Jacob. It was a show. It's a show on Apple and it's old or, you know, it's older than Apple. 2020. 2020. OK. And it has Chris Evans and is adapted from a book. And it's a little bit of a whodunit. It's kind of like a broad church whodunit presumed innocence. Sure. Murder mystery. Exactly. And, you know, obviously I watched the whole thing in two days because that's how I operate. Yeah. And there was something really interesting. So you used to you haven't brought this up in a long time, but you used to bring up a something you read about a gene that you called like you called Matt.

1:18:19Oh, M.A.O. You called it M.A.O. Yeah. This is the watching the grass grow gene. Right. So, yeah, you talk about it and you say. It's not a gene. It's just a chemical in your brain. People have high levels of it, low levels of it. Okay. And then what happened? Tell people about it. Well, if you have a lot of MAO, you're very content to watch the grass grow. And if you have very low MAO, you need a lot to stimulate you. So these are like adventure seekers and adrenaline junkies. Right. Now, you used to talk about that all the time. Yeah, I did. And I think I probably like looked it up at some point.

1:18:51I don't remember. But on this show, they talk about something called the murder gene or the warrior gene. Ooh, warrior gene. And it is the MAOA gene. Oh, so maybe that's the gene that makes MAOA. I think it's connected to this. Yeah, it's monoamine oxidasis, MAOA enzyme, which breaks down transmitters like serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine. epinephrine. Low levels of this enzyme are linked to a predisposition for aggressive behavior, especially when combined with environmental factors like childhood trauma. The MAOA gene is located on the X chromosome, leading to differences in how it affects males and females.

1:19:35But yeah. So it's passed by mom. Oh. Isn't that interesting? They talk about that in the show. Oh, wow. Yeah. And so some like in the show, I don't know how, I don't know if this is used in real life, but like in the show, they test kid for, yeah, this boy, Jacob, for it. And they test the family. Yeah. Jacob doesn't have it. He doesn't have it. Yes. Okay. He doesn't have it, but also the mom, because it's passed through the mom and the dad and the grandpa have it. Okay, the maternal grandpa. No. Okay. Okay, you just gotta watch it. Okay, in the show. Yeah. This is a spoiler. Well, it's five years old.

1:20:21Yeah. Yeah. Chris Evans has the son, and then he also has a dad. Yeah. But he's been lying about the dad. He says he didn't know his dad, and he never knew his dad. But turns out he did know his dad. Okay. And when he was about six, the dad went to jail for rape and murder. Oof. I wish it would just murder. Yeah, everyone wishes that. Yeah. It's played by J.K. Simmons. Oh, we love J.K. Simmons. Love. Yes. So, Jacob is in a little bit of a pickle. Uh-huh. Okay. A legal issue. Yeah. And so, the legal team is trying to see if they can say that he has this gene. In case he's found guilty, they can say it's not his fault.

1:21:06Okay. Okay. So, I just thought this was a full circle moment. It really is. Murder Gene. Now I want to watch it. I've decided to start Boardwalk Empire. Oh, I never watched that. It's great. Of course it was a hit. But within two episodes, I'm like, yeah, this is phenomenal. This is like Sopranos kind of. It's fun to find shows. It is. If anyone else wants to recommend more whodunits, I'm in the mood for whodunits. I'll try to keep my thinking cap on. Okay. All right. Now we can talk about facts. Facts. It was so cool that he did Silence of the Lambs. Then we got him to. That was scary. You know what's funny is I would never have the gall to say like, could you give me a little Clarice?

1:21:48Yeah. But he just did it on his own and I thought, get out of the way. Yeah. Hopefully he'll do this for the next 30 minutes. I could have watched his entire role. Exactly. Yeah. We should invite someone on to do their whole role from something. What would you pick? Nicolas Cage from Vampire's Kiss. I know. Because I need you to see him count to or do the alphabet. Yeah, I want to see that. Also, though, that's tricky because we also want to talk to him. Like, who are you willing to not talk to, but just have them do their role? Tom Cruise as well would be a good one. Oh. Because as I've said on here many times, and this is another pledge to anyone in his world or sphere.

1:22:26Yeah. I won't ask a single hard hitting question. Yeah. I just want to talk about his career. I don't care if he killed someone on the way over. I won't mention it. For anyone listening, I have not agreed to that pledge. That's not your thing. Yeah. Yeah. People have already yelled at me and it hasn't even happened. People are like, you can't have them on and not. And I said, no, I can just worship somebody. Yeah. Because you get a lot, you know, you get a lot of the other version. It's okay if I just fillet someone once in a while. You can. I won't be doing that. Okay. What are you going to ask?

1:22:59Because you might have just ruled us out. On the way home. And how'd you do it? We both know. And who would you call? He saved somebody on the way over. Yeah, that's probably right. Because that's kind of his thing. That's probably right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's see. He said he thought Edgar Allan Poe said, if we think about it, our lives have been written by some other author. Now that quote, it seems, is a misattribution and a popular misunderstanding of a philosophy expressed by Will Durant. Says Durant did not say this, but he wrote about how other people's opinions and actions can influence our lives.

1:23:39Who's Will Durant? Historian and philosopher. He's a philosopher. What era? 1885. He was born. You know, my kids have grown fond of saying to me, you were born in the 1900s. And it sounds so funny. Because it's true. And it's true. I know. But it sounds ridiculous. It does. She's like, oh, you were born in the 1900s. How tall is the Empire State Building? He knew that because of his books. Yeah. Do you want to guess? Okay. I think it's probably 70 stories. So I'm going to say 680 feet. More. More. Is it like 100 stories? It doesn't say stories on here. Okay. I'm sure. 860 feet. It's 1 ,250 feet.

1:24:32Almost a quarter of a mile. That's a lot. Almost a quarter of a mile. Oh my God. Do you ever get toothpaste? Toothpaste. Toothpaste. Toothpaste. Toothpaste. Toothpaste. Toothpaste. Toothpaste. Toothpaste. Yeah. It's really tall. Yeah. That's much taller than I would have expected. Say it again. 1 ,200 feet. So it's got to be like 110 stories or 108 stories. And it's actually 1 ,454 feet to the tip. 1 ,004. So more than a quarter mile. Wow. 102 stories. 102 stories. I don't want to go to that 100. Actually, I've been. I forgot. Yeah, with Kristen. We went to the top. For a press thing or something?

1:25:16It's so funny all the places you end up going on a press thing. And you can't, because you didn't frame it right, you don't really experience it. Yeah, it's a different thing. I have to go to the Empire State Building today. Right. At 10 o 'clock and then we got to be blank at what? Yes. And then you're leaving and you're like, oh, fuck, I was up there and I didn't even really. I know. And you do go up some like creepy stairs. To get to the tippities? Yeah. Oh, I thought it was interesting because he knew Hitler's, I mean, it's just his memory was so amazing. Yeah. And he knew Hitler's doctor's name immediately.

1:25:49Like you were telling a story and you said Hitler's doctor and he said Dr. Morrell. Yeah. And he just knew it. Yeah. Wow. I know. We were discussing this, you and I, off mic. And I was saying we have found this with a lot of people that were born in the 30s, 40s, 50s. My mom. Yeah. I do think there's something to be said with there was no stimuli. There was like you watch TV for an hour at night. Yeah. That there was just way less info hitting you. I guess. And so everyone of that age seems to have a much higher retention of names of kids and teachers from their youth. I think that's a good theory.

1:26:27I mean, there is something. What else? Something's different. Yeah, something's different. Or maybe it's that we're juggling a much huger pool of people because we're online and that opens you up to like thousands of people or whatever. Something has to be the explanation. But he like knew lines. He like knew lines from movies and stuff he wasn't in. But that part is, I think, unique to him. That's why he can do Shakespeare. Right, right. Like he has that kind of memory. Yeah. Remembering sonnets and poems and stuff. I can't do that. I have some rap songs from the 90s I know inside now. One. Would you like to?

1:27:08No, you never enjoy when I do colors. When you do colors? That's always the one I'll do. That's the one Aaron and I will do together. I am a nightmare walking psychopath stalking king of my jungle just a gangster stalking living life like a firecracker quick as my fuse then there is the death that's the colors I choose red or blue cause of blood it just don't matter so I could die for your life when my shotgun scatter we come to LA we never die we just multiply colors that's just the first verse nice we could go on you can go on we will you want was Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf Mike Nichols' first film yes highly recommend yeah an Edward Albee play it was one of my theater professor's favorite plays.

1:27:46It was. So she would talk about it all the time. You know stuff that we don't know? I don't think so. You don't remember? Yeah, I don't have the memory that he has, so no. What do you remember? You remember Friends episodes in great detail? Not in as much detail as I used to. It's actually very sad. I don't like to be put to the test because it makes me sad. Yeah. I used to be able to name all the episodes and stuff like that. I don't think I could do that anymore. I used to know every single word in Smokey and the Bandit, like from beginning to end. Yeah. Every single word in Raising Arizona beginning to end.

1:28:23Yeah. There were movies I knew inside and out. Good Will Hunting, obviously. Yeah, I did someone's podcast and they put this to the test. They had me finish lines of Good Will Hunting and I couldn't do it. Like I did a couple, but I missed a lot and it was really upsetting. I'm sorry they did that to you. I would never do that to you. Thank you. Is that a commitment? Yeah. Okay, thank you. Out loud. A verbal pledge. Well, that's it. That was all the facts. Yeah. He knew Hitler's. Well, I just thought that was interesting. It sure was. It's more of like a. It is a fact. He got it right. We had like a, we named the things we thought were interesting about it.

1:29:07I mean, that is a lot of what I do. That's true. So I guess it's in keeping. It's a fact. That you found it interesting. I checked it and it was correct. The name was right. Yeah. Yeah. It's impressive. It really is. That's it. All right. Love you. Love you.

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