In short
Gal Gadot’s life and career, from pageants and military service to acting breakthroughs, plus discussion of astrology as an icebreaker, peptides/GLP-1 and hormone therapy, and women’s under-researched health issues (including her cerebral venous thrombosis after pregnancy).
Guest backgrounds
Gal Gadot is an Israeli actor known for Wonder Woman, Snow White, Red Notice, and Fast & Furious (among others). She also discussed her early life in Israel, athletic upbringing, Miss Israel 2004 (won a Citroën C5), Miss Universe in Ecuador, and mandatory IDF service where she trained and learned Krav Maga. She later moved into modeling in Milan and then acting after a casting director found her for Quantum of Solace.
Key claims
She says her English improved through watching Seinfeld and Friends. She argues women’s health has historically been studied less and that medications can affect women differently than men (example: Ambien). On peptides, she distinguishes “real” researched medicines like GLP-1 from risky, unregulated peptide sourcing, and emphasizes medical supervision and cancer-risk concerns. She describes her own rare pregnancy-related stroke risk (cerebral venous thrombosis) being dismissed as migraine before an MRI and thrombectomy.
Notable examples
Her 110-page running challenge for The Runner (Prime Video Sept 2); her MRI discovery at Cedars-Sinai and thrombectomy after delivery; her Miss Universe experience and Maxim controversy leading to major US media attention; her discussion of GLP-1 off-label weight/metabolic effects and hormone therapy advocacy.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGal Gadot's New Movie
0:45 to 1:47
Discussion about Gal Gadot's upcoming movie 'The Runner' and its intensity.
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Gal Gadot's New Movie
1:51 to 2:52
Discussion about Gal Gadot's upcoming movie 'The Runner' and its intensity.
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Gal Gadot's New Movie
3:32 to 3:49
Discussion about Gal Gadot's upcoming movie 'The Runner' and its intensity.
Podcast Origins and Dynamics
3:49 to 6:04
Dax and Gal discuss the origins of the podcast and their dynamic partnership.
“Jenny Chu, my hairstylist, was like, oh.”
Astrology Chat
6:04 to 8:01
Conversation about astrology and its role in their lives, including humorous anecdotes.
“Without naming anyone, or I don't have any specific complaint, but many of the podcasts, everyone involved has the same opinion.”
ChatGPT and Self-Reflection
8:01 to 14:00
Dax and Gal explore the use of ChatGPT for personal insights and reflections.
“One day I was home and I was cooking and the TV was on.”
Understanding Curiosity and Perception
14:00 to 15:36
Exploration of how perceptions of individuals can be influenced by curiosity and preconceived notions.
“I don't doubt it could know me better than I know myself.”
The Role of Peptides in Health
15:36 to 18:12
Discussion on the use of peptides, their history, and effects on health and metabolism.
“I'm just athletic because I've always been.”
Importance of Hormone Therapy for Women
18:12 to 23:38
Insights into the significance of hormone therapy and the differences in women's health research.
“This is probably the most transparent I've been about it.”
Personal Experiences with Health Issues
23:38 to 26:18
Sharing of personal health challenges related to pregnancy and neurological issues.
“It's like, if you're a woman, you're fucked.”
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Anecdotes about Anesthesia and Dreams
26:18 to 28:00
Recollection of experiences during anesthesia and whimsical dreams that occur.
“Because, first of all, meeting your baby for the first time is something I can't explain.”
Exploring Memories and Childhood Activities
28:00 to 30:50
The discussion dives into memories of childhood activities and surgeries.
“And at one point in the dream, I'm like, I think we're going to start again.”
Insights on Engineering and Family Dynamics
32:27 to 40:04
The conversation shifts to discussing Gadot's family background and her father's engineering career.
“I have a bit of a stereotype for engineers.”
Pageantry Experience and Military Service
40:04 to 42:00
Gadot recounts her experiences with the Miss Israel competition and her subsequent military service.
“Your mandatory two-year military service.”
The Origins of Krav Maga
42:00 to 43:13
Learn about the history and ethos of Krav Maga as shared by Gal Gadot.
“Okay, so then you start your military service.”
From Military to Maxim Magazine
43:13 to 44:24
Discover how Gal Gadot's modeling career began during her military service.
“Maxim magazine, for people who don't remember, who are not my age, it was a men's magazine with beautiful girls in it.”
The Impact of Controversy
44:24 to 45:50
Gal shares her experiences with the media and controversy surrounding her Maxim cover.
“And if you have any tips on how to do sage, I try different stuff.”
Early Career Aspirations
45:50 to 47:39
Explore Gal's journey through early career aspirations and academic pursuits.
“It's so bad to a point where Wolf Blitzer is interviewing me.”
Auditioning for Quantum of Solace
47:39 to 49:50
Gal recounts her unexpected audition for the James Bond film Quantum of Solace.
“You've just found the crack in my knowledge.”
Getting Cast in Fast & Furious
49:50 to 51:13
Learn about Gal's casting journey for the Fast & Furious franchise.
“I put the La Mer and I'm like, I'm so sorry I'm late.”
Navigating Fame and Family
51:13 to 52:41
Gal discusses the balance of her acting career and family responsibilities.
“And then based on that, they like you enough that they say, come to LA and have a, and this is in quotes, a personal meeting with Vin Diesel.”
The Struggles of Early Fame
52:41 to 54:00
Explore the challenges Gal faced during her rise to fame in Hollywood.
“That's what I think I picked up the tension in your life a little bit as I learned about you is like this reluctance to be in the pageant and this perhaps reservation about doing this thing.”
Rejection and Resilience
54:00 to 55:49
Gal shares her experiences with rejection and her thoughts on resilience.
“I imagine it felt like there was security on the table.”
Aspirations Beyond Acting
55:49 to 56:01
Gal reflects on her aspirations beyond acting and her creative endeavors.
“and I had a two-year-old daughter by then and Yaron had like a hotel and real estate and stuff.”
The Sculptor Misunderstanding
56:01 to 58:34
Gal reflects on a humorous misunderstanding about her aspirations and language.
“I'll go back to school or I'll be a sculptor.”
Auditioning for Wonder Woman
58:35 to 1:03:00
Gal shares her experience auditioning for Wonder Woman and working with Tom Cruise.
“Yeah, and you're not necessarily at that moment thinking, I'm auditioning to be in a Wonder Woman-only movie.”
The Challenge of Success
1:03:01 to 1:08:24
Gal discusses the complexities of experiencing success and managing personal challenges.
“I'll leave it at there because they're their own people.”
Ego and Its Duality
1:08:25 to 1:10:00
The conversation delves into the role of ego in success and personal growth.
“So I just ride the wave and I understand it clicks, but I'm not feeling it.”
Understanding Ego in Success
1:10:00 to 1:11:30
Explore the balance between ego and humility in achieving success.
“And then you go too far and you learn and you dial it back.”
Tom Cruise's Iconic Running
1:11:30 to 1:13:22
Discuss the fascination with Tom Cruise's running in movies.
“So I had brought up Tom Cruise because nobody has ever ran in a motion picture as well as Tom Cruise.”
The Runner Movie Overview
1:13:22 to 1:14:49
An overview of the film 'The Runner' and its intense plot.
“And already at this point in the movie, I'm like, how long is she going to run?”
Behind the Scenes of The Runner
1:14:49 to 1:17:08
Insights into the script reading and preparation for filming 'The Runner'.
“So for months, for the first months, I was just in bed, listening to podcasts, reading a little bit and just resting and walking with shades in the house all the time because I had migraines all day long.”
Physical Challenges in Filming
1:17:08 to 1:19:44
Gail discusses the physical demands and injuries during filming.
“All the neurologists that I went to see after what happened to me told me, you need to break sweat at least half an hour a day.”
The Rewards of Running
1:19:44 to 1:22:11
Gail reflects on the personal growth and lessons learned from running.
“You work in the cold, in the heat, whatever.”
Birthday Celebrations and Aperitifs
1:24:00 to 1:26:55
The hosts discuss their birthday experiences and the role of aperitifs.
“You're you take way less abuse down there.”
Dinner Delights and Eggplant Debate
1:26:55 to 1:33:32
A lively conversation about a special dinner and the merits of eggplant dishes.
“You know, I carry Drambouille when I have the bar.”
Coco the Robot and a Car Accident
1:33:32 to 1:38:00
A humorous story about a robot delivery service, Coco, getting into a car accident.
“Well, it was half gone when I dug into it.”
Robot Crosswalk Accidents
1:38:00 to 1:41:00
A humorous discussion about the implications of robot vehicles interacting with humans on the road.
“I mean, imagine how pissed you'd be if you hit a robot that was crossing the street and it damaged your car.”
Prioritizing Lives: Humans vs. Robots
1:41:00 to 1:41:58
An exploration of how human life should be prioritized over robots, with an ethical dilemma involving animal life.
“If you're going to walk out and even if you're walking out, you still have to be careful.”
The Button Dilemma
1:41:58 to 1:43:16
A discussion on the moral dilemma of sacrificing one life for another, inspired by a Twilight Zone episode.
“She was struggling and she was talking to chat and something or an AI.”
Personal Attachments to Characters
1:43:16 to 1:44:44
A light-hearted conversation on the emotional connections to fictional characters and their implications in real life.
“I might be willing, if I didn't have children, I might sacrifice myself for a silverback.”
Driving Dilemmas and Hit Toys
1:44:44 to 1:46:08
A playful debate about the hypothetical scenario of hitting a toy while driving and its consequences.
“Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.”
Shower Habits and Personal Hygiene
1:46:08 to 1:51:50
An informal chat about personal hygiene, specifically towel usage after showers and differing shower habits.
“And all of a sudden you squish over something and then you look and there's a Groot on the ground that someone threw.”
The Debate on Daily Showers
1:52:01 to 1:53:23
Explore different perspectives on the necessity of daily showers.
“I was thinking about it this morning, weirdly enough.”
Historical Context of Bathing
1:53:23 to 1:54:42
Discuss the evolution of bathing practices and the rationale behind them.
“And then we didn't even have indoor plumbing until the 1900s.”
Nature's Way of Cleaning
1:54:42 to 1:55:28
Examine natural methods of cleaning oneself without modern amenities.
“If I smell even a hint of smell, I'm bolting right to the shower.”
Gal Gadot and Height Discussion
1:55:34 to 1:57:59
Share fun facts about Gal Gadot's height and comparisons.
“And I've been saying Gadot this whole time.”
The Unique Cake Experience
1:57:59 to 1:59:24
Celebrate a personalized cake creation experience and its flavors.
“Is the goal, I mean, what is the Golden Gate Bridge in Lisbon called?”
Gal Gadot's Career Highlights
1:59:24 to 2:00:16
Highlight significant milestones in Gal Gadot's career.
“Who won Miss Universe the year Gal was in it?”
Music and Cultural References
2:00:16 to 2:02:29
Engage in a discussion about music from the past and its relevance today.
“You'd probably have to do, I'd have to, you won't sing it, so I would have to.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Miniker Mouse. Today we have Gal Gadot. She is an actor. She is Wonder Woman, Snow White, Red Notice, Fast and Furious, several, I think, for Fast and Furious, Hardestone. She has a new movie out on Prime Video September 2nd called The Runner. It is a very high octane, crazy. this woman runs for two hours straight it's uh it scared me yeah she said it was 110 pages of running yeah it's uh it's unreal tom cruise has got to take notice of this this i feel like maybe she's thrown a gauntlet down i'd like to see tom run an entire movie god knows he could you know if anyone could do it that's right he could do it uh please enjoy gail gadot this podcast is brought to you by Squarespace.
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3:48Oh, and you're tall. I am. Oh, you are. Hi, Monica. Hi, Monica. Nice to meet you. Jenny Chu, my hairstylist, was like, oh. I love Jenny more than anyone. How do you know each other? She did Kristen's hair, does Kristen's hair a lot. Oh, there you go. So you must know her, too, no? Yeah, then we're all just in line with Jenny. We love Jenny. She's the best. So how did you guys started doing this together? Well, Dax wanted to do a podcast. I was working with Kristen and I was at the house all the time. Dax wanted to start. It was like, she doesn't do enough, come do my podcast. No, we love to argue.
4:26So we generally have opposite opinions on any given topic. So our hobby when she worked for Kristen was I'd be walking through the kitchen and I'd be like, you're listening to Serial, right? Yeah. I'm like, you think Adnan did? She's like, he didn't do it. I'm like, of course he did it. And we would let it rip for an hour. I basically lived at their house. We were all hanging out all the time. I love that you do it from your house, too. And then this, yeah. And she lives directly across the street. So she walks 12 feet and I walk 30 feet. That's really nice. We've been doing it almost nine years.
4:56Eight and a half. You've been doing this for nine years almost? Almost. When it just started, you saw the potential with the podcast. No, we didn't. You were just looking for an arena to fight. Yeah, kind of. Well, really, I was starting to be on a lot of podcasts as a guest. And I liked it so much more than say, although I like late night talk shows because I'm a comedian. That's fun. But I liked going there and being like, I don't have a seven minute chunk to be brilliant in. I can be my full self. And I remember leaving those interviews going like, well, that was really worthwhile more than a normal interview.
5:32I just loved being on them. And I was like, I kind of want to do this. We're into a deeper dive, you know. And it's fun to have someone you can banter with. Yeah. Because if it gets tiring or if it gets to whatever, then you come to the rescue and vice versa. It's a good balance. But especially... Did we start now? I think we're always starting. Stop it! You know you're my first. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Okay, good. Well, you've chosen well, I think. We're honored. I think so, too. We'll see. Without naming anyone, or I don't have any specific complaint, but many of the podcasts, everyone involved has the same opinion.
6:14Yeah, it's true. And I find that a little bit, well, then why do we need a second person? Yeah, exactly. Let's just preach. Yeah, so she's a brown, tiny girl from Georgia, and I'm a super tall white. Big old personality. What about in Georgia? Duluth. Suburbs of Atlanta. Atlanta, basically. Okay, Atlanta. Yes. You've certainly made movies in Atlanta, yeah? Yeah. Did any of those superhero movies take place there? Mine were in London. Okay. Chic. Nice. Not that Atlanta is not chic. I love the Bucket area and all of that. It didn't sign on my phone because I did not know we were recording, you guys.
6:50You weren't told our slogan, which is ABR, always be recording. Okay. Now I know. Rob starts it before we even walk in. He's always trying to catch us. Yeah, yeah. This is all running. Okay, amazing. Well, you never know. No, we caught something amazing, which was we interviewed Brett Pitt last year. And so we're in here waiting for him to arrive in the nervousness between the two of us and particularly Monica. I'm so nervous. Why would you be nervous next to Brett Pitt? I know, right? It's like, that's so strange. I'm never nervous. And so it was kind of a weird feeling. What sign are you? Double Virgo.
7:25I'm a double Taurus. Wow. We just had somebody else. Since I've been back, every guest has been into astrology and I got to hear the whole. It's time for you to just embrace it. You're a Taurus because you're very logical. That's how I used to go. Okay, hold on. I just want to say, as an outside observer who's not in the religion, when I watch the exchange, it goes the same way every time. It's like, are you a Pisces? No, I'm a Virgo. Oh, yeah, you're a Virgo. I'm a Sagittarius. Oh, yeah. I get it. Everyone gets excited about their sign, and then really nothing beyond that, which is kind of funny to observe.
8:00It's a short combinator. I feel like it's a good icebreaker. And I find myself. So first of all, I'm a tourist. I'm logical. I never believed in astrology until. Okay. One day I was home and I was cooking and the TV was on. And they had this astrology time was the title of the show. It was back in Israel. And it was like a bunch of experts. And you call from home and they do your maps and they tell you what to do in your life. I could not care less. I'm trying to switch the channel and I could not care less. I'm chopping the aubergine. And then they say our celebrity for today is Gal Gadot. I was 25 back then.
8:43And I'm like, what? Okay, I guess I'm gonna listen to them. Let's see what they have to say. They were so accurate. They said she's influenced by Aries sign. Both of my parents are Aries. She's thinking about expanding her family. I was in my first few weeks of my first pregnancy and it's not something you would say about a 25 year old right and then they said all these bunch of things and then I was like oh I got curious started investigating a little bit and now I don't lead my life with that but I think it complements it's like a good blush it's a nice color I agree sure sure sure you're like sure sure no we are no that's okay I respect that hold on no from a Capricorn no no no hold on hold on That's what I say.
9:28That's what I say. So good. I recognize that we would all acknowledge we're very dynamic creatures and we're being influenced. Our context is so broad. It's physical. There's so many things influencing us. Right. I understand that you're like, yeah, this is a 8 % sprinkling that I think contributes to this. This is a little spice that I enjoy. I think it's just a fun, it's like an icebreaker. It's like a fun way to cut through. It's like, oh, I know something about you. Don't you find that sometimes you have phases in your life when you're more tired and you're more low energy and everything and everyone around you are the same.
10:03And then you realize that Jupiter is regressing. Yeah, or Mercury's in retro. You need to be aware. Sure, sure, sure. Okay, never mind. Some people might call those spurious conclusions, but it doesn't matter. I'm going to tell you one tiny story. I'm not a hater on it. Like, it's not for me, but I don't have an ax to grind. But I just said this one funny thing. So I had an astronomy class in college and the teacher was telling us that he had so many different students that were constantly trying to argue the legitimacy of astrology. So he agreed to have a prominent astrologist come to the class and they were going to have a bit of a debate.
10:36Now, again, this is coming from him. This seems a little convenient, but he got everyone's birthday and then he handed out these readings for each person. And everyone in the class looked at their thing. and my teacher said, I could see people going like, oh, I don't know. Feeling seen. And then the guy got done and he realized he had an extra one in his hand. He was like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Everyone pass it to your left and then handed that one to the last person. And then they all look at their thing and they went, you know, we love thinking about ourselves. So if you give me adjectives that you say apply to me.
11:12You will find how it works. That's my take on it. And I don't mind that. That's fine. I like feeling, no, people like feeling. known. Seen known. And seen. And they're like, oh, that is me. Someone gets me. Yeah. You know what I did today? The moon does. So I don't know. Maybe it's in America now. It's a trend as well. But in Israel today, there is a trend. Just today it started to ask ChatGPT or maybe it happened in America. I have no idea. Ask ChatGPT to describe you in one word. Did you ever do that? We got to do it right now. Let's do it right now. Thank you. This is fun. We never do real time challenges.
11:46Okay. Please describe me in one word. Before I hit send, I just got to tell you this. I had a weird moment already this morning with my chat. Okay. Which is like, I've never told my chat, I'm Dax Shepard. I never told it to my, and he knows I'm me. Right. But I've said, you know, I'm interviewing so-and-so. I had this weird recollection of running into you. You know, it's also murky doing press for 20 years. I'm like, I kind of feel like when I was doing chips press you were maybe doing justice league press i just thought that in my mind so i asked chat like have i ever been on a talk show with gail and my chat said no but she was promoting blank so maybe like this thing i just told you it came up but then funnier it goes on to say but you and kristen were on the red carpet with her at the golden globes award in 17 and i'm like it's so weird that it's saying you and Kristen.
12:41I haven't told him I'm married. I hate you. It's just so weird. If it knows it's you, it knows you're married to Kristen. But it just felt weird. It's very weird. All right, so I will now, please describe me in one word. I hope it says asshole. Curious or go-oriented. It would never. It's here to please. What? Does everyone get curious? Mine says curious. My mom, my mom, my mother-in-law. You're curious too? Okay, I'm determined, you guys. Oh, really? Okay, so everyone doesn't get curious? This is real time because I was like, I am. My sister was caring. My friend was family-oriented. Another friend was multitasking.
13:19Okay, they've gotten different. So me and you got curious. But it's probably because you use it a lot because that's what you do. You're curious about people and you're interviewing. You're asking a lot of questions. I am very curious. That's why this show exists. But what else could it conclude? I only interact with it to ask it for questions. I'm determined. So what are your searches generally? What do I search? So I use multiple. I use perplexity if I want to do comparison with other stuff to do more research. Chat is like my Google. Yeah. I just ask all the questions. And yet, it didn't say I was curious.
13:57Yeah. My mom and another friend of mine and my mother-in-law are. So are your questions task related? Like, how do you? Like, how do you get to the objective? No, they're not. No. Okay. I don't doubt it could know me better than I know myself. If you have comments, you should have your viewers. Yes. Do it. Write down theirs and you'll see a lot of them won't be curious or determined. But what if they just say curious if they don't really know us? I don't know if he knows me well. I don't like him. So maybe he... I'm always suspicious of him. That's why I never told him I'm me. And I got so upset when I realized he knew.
14:32Yeah, it should have. Then I would have respected it a little more. I would have respected him. I said, do you know what my job is? I have a pretty good guest, but I don't think you've explicitly told me your exact job title from everything we've talked about. No. And your pillow chat? He doesn't want to be intruded. From all of our hangs? I guess you work in podcasting entertainment. With X Shepard. Particularly on the creative branding and production side with a close connection to armchair expert and Monica Padman. Oh. So he doesn't think I'm her. He thinks you're Emma. You're a sister. That's how tall I am.
15:13Wait, sorry. I'm going to say, what do you think? Such a rabbit hole, but how tall am I? I'm going to say, what do you think my name is? Well, ask how tall you are. How tall do you think I am? Emma, who works on the show, is what is Emma, 5 '10"? Yeah, she's very tall. Yeah, I think she's six foot, actually. You're tall, too. I'm 5 '10 and a half. 5 '10 and a half. Without a heel. It's really nice. I'm really jealous. I think you were up at six feet with those heels. Yeah. What's the deal with peptides? Are you on peptides? Oh, God, yeah. You are? Oh, yeah. Tell me. You're not? No. How could you not be?
15:40You're so athletic. I'm just athletic because I've always been. We're going to get into why you're athletic because I know. You did. You're recently. All the more reason that you would want to know about peptides. I spoke to a few doctors and all of them scared the shit out of me from taking peptides. Well, first of all, there's a quadrillion peptides, right? Right. GLP-1 is a peptide. Right. That's the only one that has enough research and all of that. Well, not true, but... GLP-1 has enough research. It's not the only one that has enough research. Generally, what's happening, which was the case with GLP-1, is that was a medicine developed for diabetics to regulate A1C, right?
16:18So then they discover all these off-label effects of it, and they just can't ignore what they're seeing. Oh, when we try to treat these people for diabetes, they're also losing weight. Their metabolic health is also improving. So now you can apply this thing you've observed. But many of the peptides are definitely being used off-label for what they were intended to originally treat. So one of them being teslamoralin, right? This was developed for AIDS patients in the 80s. What they found while people were on this treatment is like, oh, they're losing all their abdominal fat. That's interesting.
16:50But it's a crazy safe peptide that's been being used on all these people for a very, very long time. And one of the unintended consequences was reduction in belly fat. So it's not not tested or not not safe. It hasn't been tested for belly fat reduction, but it has been observed. But it has been used for so many years? Yes, exactly. Since 86. Here's the problem. People are conflating two things. Are peptides dangerous or are how people are getting peptides dangerous? The second one, the latter, yes. So dumb, dumb guys on the Internet are ordering shit from China. for lab use only, and they don't know what they're getting, and it might not have the actual peptide in it, and it might be infected.
17:32So unfortunately, because that's happening now, it's like, well, peptides are dangerous. No, crazy shit from China that's intended for lab use is dangerous. It also is if you do too much. I mean, again, anything can be. And I want to be fair. They can be dangerous. So even the test of more than one, what it does is it tells your pituitary gland to make more of your own human growth hormone. So you know people take HGH exogenously. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. It is. Not good for cancer and all these reasons. And even if you do have active cancer cells and you increase your own body's HGH, that could be problematic.
18:06So you need to get screened. You need to get blood panels every three months. You got to do it with a doctor and be observed. And how often do you do it? Daily. Every day? Yeah, yeah. In injections, right? Wow. This is probably the most transparent I've been about it. I mean, I say I'm on them. You look amazing. Well, thank you. I'm 51 years old. Sorry, not in a second, like, you know. Get it on. He loves to hear that. I'm never appreciated by women. This is one of my complaints. Guys all the time are like, bro, what's your diet? I appreciate strong bodies and your body looks very strong. I said it from the first minute I saw you.
18:36But I don't think you need any. You're doing great. I'm not going to do any, at least not at this point. And I'm not where you are as you're like so confident about it. And probably you've done much more research than I did. Oh, I have a doctor. You know, I have a hormone doctor. But I'm open to if it's not risky and if it's not dangerous and if it doesn't feed into cancer cells and all these things. At some point when you're perimenopausal or menopausal, you'll explore hormone therapy. It's so impactful. It's crazy women were denied any help in that realm. I was just watching last night a show about it.
19:12It's, again, in Israel. It's a documentary show about this amazing woman who's a journalist in Israel. And the name of the show is I'm Hot, I'm Cold. Oh, sure. And she explored everything. And again, like with peptides, it's amazing to see in the scale. There's like the people who are super pro it. Right. And the people who are also doctors who are extremely against it. Yes. And it's all about the cancer and feeding the cells. And essentially, I think that if you end up doing anything like this, you need to do it the right way. And just make sure you check yourself. Do you know Dr. Mary Claire Haver?
19:46You should follow her on Instagram. She's kind of like one of the main faces of the menopause treatment. Perimenopause, yeah. She's like out there, always giving tips. Isn't it amazing how women's health is something that when you compare it to men's health, and I'm not saying it as a bad thing, it's just as a fact, there's so many things that had never been fully, deeply, thoroughly explored in the same way with men. And you know, the historical explanation for it. Can I take off my show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's round one. We thought maybe we'll get down to our essentials, our unmentionables at some point.
20:24So step one is great. The historical explanation is women make terrible research subjects because you have your period. Because throughout the month, you're going to have very dramatic rises and falls in your hormone levels. But it is what it is. It is what it is. That's not an excuse to study women, but that was the explanation given. It's like if I take your blood, I'm trying to test you for this one thing, but then 15 days out, I get this weird result. I don't know you're this point. Exactly. I'm not defending it. Researchers, wherever you are, if you say that. I'm not defending it. We just had an expert on about fatherhood.
20:58I'll tell you when men are not studied is parenting. There's almost no fucking studies on men and parenting. That's a big, big problem. We're locked in these vestigial, terrible gender things that exclude us from understanding each other. slowly yes but yeah also all the medication that applies to women they've just tested on men and then it reacts very differently on women it's like well yeah because you didn't test anything out on us yeah the best is ambien that was the one i think that's what caused america to go hold on hold on why aren't we testing on women because it turns out you know ambien is twice as powerful on women than men i didn't know that still to this day oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so doctors were prescribing the same dose to men and women men are like oh it's great i love it i fell right to sleep.
21:43And then women are like, yeah, I got up and I drove my car or I went to the fucking 7-Eleven and got snapped. And the doctor's like, why are the men doing any of this bonkers behavior? Oh, man. And they're like, women are crazy. It's like, nope, just the medicine. So many different fields in health had been super explored when it came to men and very little exploration when it came to women. I had, I'm sure you did the research, CVT, the cerebral venous thrombosis in my head when I had a baby. It's a kind of a stroke. It's a rare stroke. Oh, scary. Only 3 % of strokes are these kind, right? I don't know the number.
22:20That was my research of you. You know that because you know why? Why? You're very curious. I'm so curious. But it's basically three of my Venises. Venus? Venus? I don't know. Like in the head? Uh-huh. Venus? Venus? I don't know. English. By the way, it's going to happen a lot. I love that. We love that. about it, as long as you understand what I'm saying, were blocked. And it was because of the hormones and because I was pregnant. And it happens. I didn't know it was even a thing. And many times what happens is that women get the clots in their brain and then they have the baby. And then soon after the delivery, they get a stroke.
23:02Women were not aware of it. I wasn't aware it was a thing for pregnancy. Did they put you on a blood thinner to deal with that? And that's miserable, right? I've had friends on blood thinners and they hate it. It was very bad. And another thing, I feel like my doctor, my neurologist, didn't take me seriously enough. Mike. I don't know his name. Shout out. He's a good guy. Yeah. I think it's just the attitude of, she's a woman. She's just being dramatic. It's just a migraine. Because you were like, I have headaches? Okay. And then if you're black, it's like 3x the data of not being believed for your pain.
23:37So it's like, there's all these strata. It's like, if you're a woman, you're fucked. And if you're a black woman, we're not going to take anything you say seriously. It's horrible. But anyway, I had major headaches throughout my pregnancy. And then the last three weeks of my pregnancy, I was not able to do anything. I was home, in bed, dark, quiet, AC. That's it. But you're fighting the pain. Now I know I was like in and out of conscious. It felt like a toothache in your brain. That's awful. And you're pregnant. And then you pass out. But I thought I was fine. So it was already restricting flow.
24:12I didn't know. And they checked me and I didn't show any symptoms. The back of my eye pressure was fine. My blood pressure was fine. Therefore, he thought I was just having a migraine until one day my mom was like, enough. Three weeks, you're not doing anything. Go get an MRI. And I asked to get an MRI for so many things they wouldn't send me. Were they saying they didn't want to give you an MRI because you were pregnant? I don't know. No, they probably were just like, you don't need it. They don't like giving MRIs. Yeah. Why? I want my own MRI. I know. If you buy one, let's share it. We should find like 10 people.
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24:44Yeah, yeah. But anyway, then they found out I was on the, like, almost dead. Oh. Afterwards, my wonderful neurosurgeon who did the operation told me that usually when they see this type of blockage, people are in coma. Yeah. I was supposed to be in coma. So what was the operation? Trombectomy. They put like stints in there? How do they? They didn't. They can for aneurysm and stuff, but that's not what I had. They go from your crotch all the way your brain. Wow, wow, wow. And they try to take out the clotting. That feels very dangerous. And you were pregnant during this surgery? No. They waited.
25:27So I did the MRI. They called me immediately on the way home. They called me to come to Cedars-Sinai. That was amazing. Cedars-Sinai, I love you. Shout out Cedars. They took the baby out first thing. And then they did the operation and put me on blood thinners and everything. It's a big day for your body. This is scary. Delivering a baby and then brain. By the way, just delivering a baby for a woman. It's a bit, again, underestimated. And I must say that I also was downplaying giving birth. It's fine. I'm back. It's a shock. It's a huge trauma. It's a trauma. And this was number four. Now, my mother told me they got easier.
26:06Did yours not get easier? Obviously, this is compounded by this. Exactly. Up until then, I loved giving birth. Okay. Loved. Like, I hated being pregnant. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Loved delivering. It was like, oh. Because you felt powerful. Because, first of all, meeting your baby for the first time is something I can't explain. It's like you want to see how they look, how they hear, do you want to smell? The creation of your own eyes. And they're looking in your eyes and you can tell they're going like, are you who's going to take care of me? And you're like, yeah, I'm going to take care of you.
26:41I got you, girl. It's so special. Yeah, it is. Although I was terrified the first time. I bet. Wow. So you had the surgery. Oh, my God. You know, I had a repeated dream when I was down. Did it ever happen to you? Uh-uh. Were you ever under? Like, did they put you under for a surgery? I've been under a dozen times. Yeah. For real. He does have fun. What kind of surgeries? Are you okay? I race motorcycles. So always broken stuff and stuff. You know. No, I don't race motorcycles yet. You walk. I do. I walk. That's my motor transportation. I froze my eggs. And so they did put me under for that. I did that twice.
27:19They don't always put people under, but they did put me. And that was nice. That was a nice little treat. You can see why Mike Jackson wanted to do that nightly. I mean, they call it the nap. The anesthesia nap. I was dreaming that I was in a plane and everybody in the plane were standing and like, you know, leaning over each other, trying to see the view of where we're getting. And we were supposed to land on the Golden Bridge in San Francisco. The red one. Golden Bridge is a song. The Golden Gate Bridge, it was clear. Exactly. And there were cars on it. And every time we're about to land, boom, we went back to the start.
27:59Weird. over and over and over. And at one point in the dream, I'm like, I think we're going to start again. I think that's what's happening. Do you think, maybe you asked this, but like, yeah, I've been out a bunch of times. Colonoscopies, the surgeries. I don't remember one thing. They hit the plunger and then I'm like waking up. Do you think it's because they were actively in your brain? I think so. I never asked my doctor. I should. You should because that's very abnormal, I think, for you to have any memory from while you're under MS. Tinkering around in there, you never know. And I remember it to this day vividly.
28:31Can I tell you a boring story you won't care about? So the Golden Gate Bridge, after the company that built that bridge erected it, they were like, that's a damn good bridge. Let's go try to sell this around the world. And you know, Lisbon bought one. Lisbon has a Golden Gate Bridge. It's identical to the Golden Gate Bridge. Same company, yeah. They got down there like, hey, look at this bridge we did in San Francisco. You want one? Yeah, we'll take one. What do they call that? Good on the Portuguese. The Golden Bridge. They do? No. The gullible is my word. The gullible bridge. Okay, so I'm going to maybe guess that for you, delivering was more tolerable because in your childhood, and mildly explained by the fact that mom was a phys ed teacher, you swam, you played tennis, you did volleyball, you were on the cheerleading team for the soccer club, You did hip hop dance.
29:25You did ballet. You are curious and with good memory. Thank you. I've been spared that procedure you had thus far. But obviously you've had an entire childhood of learning to endure pain. Once you learn to get through it, it is for me, I'm similar. That stuff doesn't bother me much. It's just not in my. Yeah, I broke all my fingers and did all the things. Yeah. When you're very physical, you have more tolerance to pain and being pushed. Was all of this motivated by yourself, all this physical activity, or was mother going, let's go? Both. I was born very active. Still to this day, I can't just sit and do nothing.
30:06My body gets aggravated. And my mom, it was like I finished school, I finished my homework, take a ball and go out and play. There's no hours and hours and hours of TV and stuff. And what kind of engineer was dad? Medicine, science. For example, he worked in this, how do you call it? It's like a pill that has multiple cameras that you swallow before you go to do colonoscopy. Oh, wow. And it films your whole digestive tract on its way out? Yeah. Cool. So he's like a biomechanical or biomechanical. But he also worked in like satellites. He's like in charge of all the... He's very stupid. He's the brain.
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32:34I have a bit of a stereotype for engineers. I had one as a stepdad. I have had two stepdads that were engineers. My dad is an engineer as well. Does he fit the stereotype? I mean, was he pretty cerebral? You know what, Chad, told my dad? You are a computer. Seriously? You're me. You're thorough. And then he said in two words, and then he said you're very specific and thorough. My dad is very like... Yeah. Very cerebral. Okay, now we're getting somewhere. So this other thing that's pretty well known about engineers too is like their bedside manner is not great. It's like, no, no, that doesn't work, period.
33:13Like I see that that doesn't work. They have no problem with that. Coupled with, we had this incredible expert on years ago, probably six years ago, that wrote a book about disagreeability across cultures. And you know who the most disagreeable people on the planet are? Engineers? Israelis. Oh, Israelis. This is not a negative thing. This is like, we'll challenge authority, no fear to object. It's all because of the Bible. Every Friday, every Shabbat, you used to get together and pepper over the story, the parasha, of this week's Bible story. And what, you're encouraged to challenge it and debate it?
33:49It's like debating over the Shabbat table. Okay, great. So when I combine the highest disagreeability culture with also an engineer, what was it like to interact with him? He's a softie. He's a girl's dad. Oh, he is. Well, you were texting him this morning about Chet GPT. Exactly. I was like, check what you are. My mom was like, oh, my God, he knows me so well. I'm curious. And my dad is like, I'm thorough. My dad, he was the breadwinner and worked morning to night and very loving. What happened when you became emotional? How did he handle that? Did he walk out of the room? Was he like, uh-oh, uh-oh, emotions?
34:28I can't compute. I think that now when he's older, he's embracing his emotions much more than ever. Than my mom, than anybody. This is all of us, man. He wants to talk about emotions. He wants to cry a little bit. Yeah. He wants to talk about his challenges if he's feeling anything. That's great. It's incredible. We were just talking about this with the guest yesterday. I think women and men are on this opposite trajectory. It's like when I met Kristen, she cried every couple hours. I hadn't cried in 20 years. And now she rarely ever cries. And I cry every 20 minutes. And I'm like, well, that's an interesting trajectory.
35:00And I've noticed that. It is the hormone. It's pretty consistent among the people I know. Well, at some point, the men, I think it's when you have children, something pops open and then the pipe has been clogged for 400 years. I also think you're so busy with building your careers and building your homes and providing and this and that. And all of a sudden, I think there is a point where the children get older that you start feeling we're not here forever. And actually, we're asking ourselves what's the most important thing in life and making you feel emotional. And I think that if you're smart and wise and have good emotional intelligence, then you connect to your feelings at one point.
35:48Now you have the time. You're not in the race. Yeah, I'm like, oh, good. I did it. I climbed the mountain. Yeah. That's over. I don't have to be tough and strong. I proved what I needed to prove to whoever it is. What did I miss? Oh, everything? All these emotions? Okay, great. Well, bring them all in. Bring them all in right now. Yeah. Okay, I have one bone to pick with you. Okay. So as the lore goes, you're in high school, you're doing all these incredible things athletically. People had at different times suggested perhaps you should model, right? And you were not interested in that. And instead, when you graduated high school, you got a job at Burger King.
36:21This sounds so American, right? You think about like someone's in Israel. Through high school, I worked in Burger King. Okay, great. Do they have the chicken sandwich there? I love the Whopper, the garlic Whopper. Garlic Whopper? We don't have the garlic Whopper. We're too agreeable for garlic. We have the chicken sandwich. It comes in a rectangle. I don't know if they have that in Israel, but here. With the proprietary Burger King mayonnaise. It's so good. Oh, it's so good. It's so oily. We love it. Okay, so you're working at Burger King. Now, here's my grievance. because I have heard this same story from probably five guests.
36:56And at this point, I'm like, I'm a little suspicious of it. So it's that you didn't want anything to do with modeling, but mom and a friend submitted you to the Miss Israel pageant. It's true. I just think it's very interesting that of all these people I've interviewed that are all pageant winners, none of them submitted themselves. Who was it? Priyanka Chopra was one, I think. So was Jenny Garth. I think she accidentally got herself on the podium at a pageant before you defend yourself. Would it be okay if you wanted to be in a pageant at 18? Yeah, in Israel. In my days, it used to be a big deal.
37:26Now I think they canceled it. They have a bad track record for the abuse. Pageants in general, right? The men have made it terrible. But not in Israel. It just became out of... Passe. Yeah, it's whatever. No one cares. But in my days, I was thinking to myself, all right, I'll go. And I'll get to tell my grandchildren that grandma competed in Miss Israel. It was like royal. Yeah. 2004? 2004. You're amazing. Computer. And then. You went to Miss Universe. I went to Miss Universe. You won a Citroen for winning Miss Israel. I won a Citroen C5. What's a Citroen? Yeah. A little car, a little French car.
38:03Oh. How fun is it to win a car when you're 18? And I sold it. You know what I did? I sold it. I drove it for three months. And then I was like, I don't need a car. Yeah. Okay. I'll take my parents' cars. They had a car for me. And I'm going to play with the money a little bit. And I sold it for 80 ,000 shekels. Nice. What is that in Peruvian? Last year's 30. Yeah, it's nothing. But it was amazing. And then I went to Miss Universe, yeah. Which was in Ecuador. Ecuador, si. Si, si, si. Ecuadorian. What was the experience like? I was so fearful, I'm going to win again, because I never tried or wanted to win the Miss Israel pageant.
38:47And I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to win this. No. But they wanted you to put on a cocktail dress that you weren't having that or something. No, and I was smoking everywhere. Not giving a care in the world. You weren't grateful enough to be there for them to give you the win. Who won that year? Was it? What country won? Australia, I think. Oh, good for them. She was amazing. I bet. You know what the thing is? You go to the Miss Universe pageant, you don't have a name anymore. I was Miss Israel. Oh, sure. It's kind of convenient when you're meeting people. I was with Miss Norway in the room, and we were best friends with Miss This and That.
39:23Oh, wow. Oh, tell me about Miss Norway, because they, too, culturally have some fun stuff going on. Really? Was she wild? She was amazing. Okay. You're not going to say wild? She wasn't wild, no. Well, no one was probably wild at Miss Universe. It goes like this. So, the South Americans, they are the most experienced, super poised. They're there to win. They own that ship. The European ones, they're very mellow, no drama. There's the Asian girls who were great, too. There wasn't much drama. I was not making drama, but I was the rebellion compendent. Competitor? Yeah. Contestant. Contestant. Thank you.
40:03Okay, so you left that, and then you pretty then immediately start your conscription, right? Your mandatory two-year military service. That's right on the heels. I went there. I came back to Israel. the fame of being Miss Israel was too much for me. So I went to do some modeling in Milano for three months, then had to come back and do my service in the military. Really quick. How was that three months in Milan? Wild. I bet it was so fun. Was it so fun? It was amazing. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how my parents let me. I was 18 by myself in Milan. Were you living with other models?
40:38I was living with more models. Miss Guam, Miss Mongolia. A lot of Russia and a lot of Ukraine, a lot of, you know, girls from everywhere. Is that what the primary ethnicity was at the time in modeling in 04? Was there a lot of Eastern Europeans? With me, yes, there was a lot of Eastern Europeans. They were from everywhere. But yes. Can we go back for one second? I want to ask why you were afraid to win. Because it felt the responsibility. Okay. You weren't like feeling fraudulent. The exposure, the fame. I was like a girl. I was a dancer, an athlete. I think this is part of the reason people want to distance themselves from it is it's fun to do for a minute, but it probably didn't feel terribly substantive to you.
41:21What is substantive? Meaning in athletics, I set this goal. I have times. I reach for it. I work very, very hard. It's objective. There's a timer. I take this test. I did this number. This is like a very subjective. Yeah, you don't look great in heels. It's all about how you look. and it's very superficial. Yeah, and you were probably desiring something a little more concrete. Well, were you? I guess that's the question. But I was enjoying it. Don't get me wrong. Sure, sure, sure. I was like enjoying both words. I was looking down at it. Yeah. Looking down your nose at it and enjoying it. And enjoying it.
41:56That's the dream. You can feel above it and participate in it. Yeah, but you're definitely not going to win if that's how you look at it. You have to respect it, right? No, they're kicking you to the curb. No, I didn't. Okay, yeah. Okay, so then you start your military service. So because of this great athletic background of yours, you become a trainer in the military. And then you learn Krav Maga. And I just am curious if you can tell me the history of Krav Maga. Is it pulling from other martial arts? What I remember is using your surroundings against your attacker. So if there's stones, if there's sand, they teach you where to hit first.
42:32Pretty simple. Okay. If I know it correctly, the ethos of it is it's all about real world combat, not in a ring, not on a mat, not at a contest. It's like, OK, when you're in the shit in real life, let's look around. What can we utilize? Although we did it in a very contained space on mattresses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be fun if they had like foam training rocks and foam broomsticks. Yeah, like logs. Foam tea kettle. Then this really interesting thing happens that if it doesn't happen, you and I never meet in our life, right? Your life is on a completely different trajectory, which is somehow you, well, not somehow, and I want the explanation.
43:12You end up in Maxim while you're still in the military, right? How did that come about? Maxim magazine, for people who don't remember, who are not my age, it was a men's magazine with beautiful girls in it. Yeah. Israel decided to promote Israel through the beautiful women that go to the IDF. and therefore let's put them on Maxim Magazine. And I was one of the women. And then I was invited to the gala. Oh, and I went with my husband. Back then was trying to think if we were married already. No. You met in 06, right? In 06, yes. Yeah, yeah, okay. That's amazing. You remember this about everyone you interview?
43:51Yeah, it's the goal. And then you forget? The goal? No, unfortunately, I remember quite a bit of it. Wow, that's really impressive. That's very impressive. The goal to let you in on my game I play is the goal is to never look at this piece of paper. Okay. So you were asking about Maxim. I don't think that Maxim was the thing that changed the trajectory. This Maxim spread ended up on the cover of the New York Post. And this and that. And there was controversy within the country of whether the tourism board should have. I do nothing. And I feel like controversy chases me wherever I fucking go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:24And if you have any tips on how to do sage, I try different stuff. It always follows. So we come to the gala. We go to sleep. We wake up. I'm on the cover. And I know there's like this controversy going on in Israel. Different ministers are starting to argue whether or not it's the right thing to do to promote Israel. Crazy stuff. All I did was being paid 500 bucks to do the photo shoot. And now I'm invited to this thing in New York and I'm 21. I wake up and the ambassador is calling me in New York and he's like, listen, there's been a thing. Go downstairs. It's when you still can buy the newspaper at the corner of each.
45:06Yes, she is Stan. Go get the New York Post. You're on the cover of the New York Post. And CNN wants to interview you and Fox News and NBC News. Oh my God. I'm like looking at my husband, Yvonne, and I'm like, why do I? And Yvonne's like, we ride the wave, the ambassador said. Which is what your name means. Your name means wave. Wave. We ride the wave. So we go and I do all these interviews. My English is nowhere where it is now. Gail became fluent in English by watching Seinfeld and... Friends. You got it, girl. I know. That's why I connect with you. That's why I understand you so well. I'm about to be 39.
45:48Amazing. Yeah, we're the same generation. 41. Yes, yes. Amazing. When's your birthday? Monday, August 24th. Rosalto. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay, 39, 40 is the big one. I know, it's coming up. So your English is rough. My English is rough. I do this thing. It's so bad to a point where Wolf Blitzer is interviewing me. And Yaron was standing next to the cameraman. And I'm like, Yaron, how do you say this in English? And then Mjoln is like, no, you don't look at me. Never, ever did he ever go inside a place so I don't ask him. That life, right? Can you imagine someone's starting to speak a different language while interviewing him?
46:29And that was how I started my… Public life. Yeah. Are they asking you specifically about the controversy or are they just like, who are you? I remember I had two agendas. What agendas? Two like… Talking goals. Talking goals. One is I'm not going to get into this silly argument. I'm just going to acknowledge everyone can have their own opinions and that's it. And the other one was I invite everybody to come to Israel and la-di-da because it's crazy what people think about Israel. They think we're like riding camels and everything is deserts and people walk around with M16, which is not the case whatsoever.
47:11We ride donkeys and we carry M4s. No, you're more chic. You're like cowboys, you know, you herd kettles and you do the things. But I was like, I invite you all to come to Israel. It's great. It's so much fun. Like a 20 year old girl would. Representing your country. Yeah. What do you do? OK, you get out of the military after two years. And then this is also comedic. You go to college, university, and you're going to do medicine because primarily Allie McBeal. Not Madison, Law. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. Law. I didn't watch Ally McBeal. Okay. You've just found the crack in my knowledge. If she watched Grey's Anatomy, it would have been Madison.
47:52Yeah, exactly. You were thinking Grey's Anatomy. I'm so sorry. So you wanted to do Law because of Ally McBeal. And at this point, I said to myself in the research, this bitch loves TV. I do too. I'm with you. Very influenced. Very easy to influence. Listen. first off my whole idea back then was not really to be i feel like it's something you say on interviews yeah i love dally mcbill but i think first of all i wanted to be so many things i wanted to be a chemist like in the pharmacy yeah which is weird to me why would i ever okay i wanted to be a choreographer that's okay i understand that 12 years of dance then after all my dad is an engineer or my mom's a teacher, I needed to have a proper job.
48:38So I was like, okay, it's either medicine, which I'm not smart enough for, or law, which I don't like to argue and I don't like conflicts. But I was thinking about, I don't even know how to say it in English. Like when you do diplomacy and you know the law and all of these things, I was like, I'll go there. Never happened. So there is a casting director in London who somehow comes across your modeling card. Correct. And decides to have you audition for Quantum Solace. Right. The James Bond movie, which is a crazy thing to happen. Very random. It's very random. And I did not want to go. Just randomly saw your card.
49:20She went to the agency and she was looking for girls because she was looking for the Bond girls. And she saw my card and she was probably thinking, oh, maybe she can be right for it. And she asked to see me for an audition, which I wasn't planning on going. And then my agent called me and I was in school. I was in university and he called me and he said, where are you? She's waiting. You should go. I was like, I'm not going to go. I'm not an actress and it's all in English and blah, blah, blah. Go. So I walk inside and I had a La Mer. Do you know La Mer? I love that. I had a La Mer lip balm. I put the La Mer and I'm like, I'm so sorry I'm late.
49:56And she's like, oh my God, my lips are so... Do you mind if I use it? And I'm like, yeah, keep it. Oh, keep it. That's generous. For people who have never bought La Mer, it's very pricey. Man, it's my lips, her lips. We just met. Too much information. I agree. It's like sharing a toothbrush. Just take it. Exactly. You can keep my toothbrush. That's a crazy thing of her to ask. Well. Because if it's the pot, which it's the pot, right? But it's the pot. Yeah, it's your fingers all in it. But I almost feel that if it was the lipstick, it's more worse. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. That's like sharing a condom.
50:31But the pot is all fingers. But anyway, I give her the very expensive lip balm. That might have been the reason. And to this day, I think that my kindness led my way. Because she did not get that role. Right. No. However. But years later. Say it. Say it, Dex. This woman who was gifted a very expensive topical. Lips were now beautiful and perfect. Not trapped. urged Universal to meet Gail for Fast and Furious. Crazy. To this day, I'm so grateful for this woman. Yeah, unreal. And you put yourself on tape or somehow you get an audition that is sent to Los Angeles. And then based on that, they like you enough that they say, come to LA and have a, and this is in quotes, a personal meeting with Vin Diesel.
51:23No, a test, like a camera test. Oh, it was a camera test. That sounds much better than the words I read. Have a personal meeting with Vinicius. And we went to a hotel suite. And it was hot. Just a chemistry. Okay, it was just a test. Okay, great, great, great. Do you know how many finalists there were? How many people were testing? A bunch. What clicked? Why did that work? I don't know. I had good chemistry with them. Were you nervous? Did you want the job? Or were you kind of like take or leave it? No. I wanted the job. I came here. I remember I had to go back to it. I came... for like a night morning, and then I left.
52:01I don't know. I was ready, so I came very prepared. So I did a good audition. And I had good chemistry with all of them, with the director. Okay, so you end up in Fast and Furious. That was the fourth one was the first one you did? And so at that time, what are your thoughts about the future? Like you're in this enormous franchise. I have two parents who are like, you need to go back to school to get a job. You need to get a real job. This is temporary. This is a phase. And I had an incredible, I have an incredible husband who was like, this is the lighter side of life. Just let's enjoy it. It's okay.
52:38He was the dreamer and I'm, you know. That's what I think I picked up the tension in your life a little bit as I learned about you is like this reluctance to be in the pageant and this perhaps reservation about doing this thing. And it feels like it's the tension of having parents that were professional. And perhaps your fear that they would think what you were doing was vapid and pointless. I think I need to lay down on it. So fun. I think there's something there. And I think it's also when you start a career in such a young age and it's not like medicine. You're not a doctor with a goal. And I never knew being an actress was an option.
53:17And it goes against my sign. I'm a Taurus. I like stability. I like to know what's going on. You're a Taurus through and through. Taurus with a Taurus horizon in the ox year. Ooh. That's where it gets tricky. And I must say, I'm not stubborn at all. I'm very open either. Yeah, because aren't Tauruses stubborn? I'm like tourists in other ways. But anyway, let's go back to subject. You're flexible. But it was all new to me. It was going a lot against my personality because it's a lot of traveling, a lot of uncertainty. Nothing is up to me. Yeah. I'm not in control of anything. Yeah. Powerless. And it's hard.
53:53Very. And I don't like it. Yeah. And sometimes I get roles and you do all these auditions and it's awful. I would say now there's this murky gap between that extraordinarily auspicious thing getting in Fast and Furious and then Wonder Woman. Tell me about those years. I imagine it felt like there was security on the table. And then the next month you'd be like, no, that was it. No, but it's different phases. So I did Fast 4, 5, and 6. They killed me on 7. It was such a hilarious way when the director called me. But Justin Lin called me one day and he's like, listen, I'm going to send you the script.
54:29On this one, we're going to have to deal with your death. And I'm like, she's death? And he's like, no, no. Death, death. I'm like, yeah, I hear you. She lost her hearing. I can learn sign language. Die, die. You're going to die. Oh, no. You're dead. I was like, oh. There will be no fast eight for you. Did you take it personally? No, I was bummed. Yeah. Because it was a great. Fast and Furious is crazy. It's like a community. The casts are huge. There's so many of us. And within the years, 25 years, everybody loves each other and everybody knows each other. The good parts and the less good, but everybody love each other.
55:19And I was sad not to be part of this community anymore. After Fast and Furious, when we came here, I did so many auditions. We came for the premiere of the last Fast before they killed me. Supposedly, I'm back. I did the eighth. Oh, yeah, I came on a cameo. Come on, it's Fast and Furious. They resurrected me. Yeah, exactly. So around there, I come and I do so many auditions and a callback and a match and I don't get it. And another one and a callback and I don't get it. and I had a two-year-old daughter by then and Yaron had like a hotel and real estate and stuff. And I told Yaron, I don't think I can do it anymore.
55:57It's like, fuck it. It's too much rejection. Why? I'll go back to school or I'll be a sculptor. Then I wanted to be a sculptor. Sculptor. Thank you. Sculptor's the product. I know. I thought about it. I thought about it. Monica, that was why there was a long delay. I didn't correct her immediately. You're the best and I appreciate you so much. I wanted everyone to know you don't mean that you want to be a statue. I did see the meme. I did already see the meme. Yes, I just wanted to help everyone. No, you corrected me once too. Please always correct me. I just, I love to hear you. What happened to me this weekend?
56:34So I'm having friends over for brunch and I'm cooking and we talk and we talk and then I go, yeah, well, you know, it's like, it's water across the bridge. And then they go under. Yeah. But for years, I've been saying across the bridge, no one said anything. I speak to my friend Melissa here and I go, you know, but we need to think about the objective. And in the back door, I'm translating from Hebrew. Sure. In the back door, I just feel. And then my husband, who was on the call, is like, God. You don't want to get your objective. Your back door is more like anal. Maybe you do it That's okay too I don't want to shame anyone Yeah, no, it's fine It just was completely translated from Hebrew So thank you Always feel free to correct me I'm always learning Oh, I only felt important in that moment Because I know she didn't want to be a sculptor I thought it was sweet Maybe she didn't want to be a sculptor Well, that's why we needed to correct it And that's also cool I don't know We need to know Okay, so you wanted to be a sculptor potentially Sculptor Sculptor?
57:45Sculptor. Sculptor. It's hard. It's a hard word. One day. On your deathbed, you'll say the perfect English. Sculptor. Sculptor. One of our best friends is from Venezuela, and I'm around her all the time. And so we do run into this often. And I'm always deciding, like, what does she need to be corrected on? What does she not? Just not disturb the flow of the conversation. No, I get that. But that was a good fix. Remember, I always wanted to be a sculptor. To be admired, you know. Honestly, I do want to be a sculptor. I know, it wouldn't be at all. It would be great. You got to be worthy of a sculpture.
58:24And then I told you, let's just stop it. And then I did the audition for Wonder Woman. And just to remind people, so first was Batman v. Superman. And Wonder Woman was going to make her first appearance in it. So at the moment, it's not like we're thinking you're— They wanted to test the water. Yeah, and you're not necessarily at that moment thinking, I'm auditioning to be in a Wonder Woman-only movie. No, you didn't know what you were auditioning for. It was like a secret. They didn't tell you. They gave me a scene that only later I realized was an Uma Thurman scene from... Pulp Fiction? Yeah.
58:56Oh, wow. But then finally, when they called me to do the test with Ben, then the director called me and he said, I don't know if you have it in Israel, but did you ever hear about Wonder Woman? you're like bitch i watch all the tv
59:18exactly
59:21yes we skip one thing and i only want to plant a seed because i'm going to bring it up later but you also after the first fest you did night and day tom cruise movie and you're in a scene with Tom Cruise. An incredible man. Yeah, tell me about the experience. I flew to Vienna to do the scene. I had, I think it was one night of work with him. And he was the most wonderful and they changed the scene completely. So you come, you learned all your lines and now with my English, they completely scratched that. Oopsies. And somehow I figured it out and we did the scene together and it was an incredible experience and we had a lot of waiting to do like you have when you shoot a movie.
1:00:06And he was talking to me a lot about my grandfather was a Holocaust survivor. And Tom did... Oh, Valkyrie? Was it Valkyrie? I wanted to say that. I think so. But now I'm like, yeah, so Valkyrie. I think so. Yeah, you're right. And he was like so curious about my family and my heritage. And years later, after I did Wonder Woman, we met in his house with another director and producer. No, real reminisce of the days. No, but another producer and director. And he opened the door and he greeted me. And I didn't even think he would remember who I am. So I introduced myself and I was like, what are you talking about?
1:00:48We did that. How's your grandfather? Is he still around? That's kind. Yes. That people really. Is he the one that does the cake? Yes. Did you get a cake? Have you gotten a cake from him? Okay, we shouldn't have brought that up. Never mind. Either it will. Either it will. But we beat that cake. He makes cakes. He sends the same cake to everyone. Most of the people he's worked with. A large percentage of the people he's worked with. Only some people. Well, I worked with him for one night. Tom, it's fine. It's okay. I can take it. Tom, let's get Gal the cake. No, no. It's fine. Gal needs a cake. I need the cake.
1:01:24I don't like cakes. It's fine. I like chocolate. No, it's a fun thing in Hollywood. And it's like basically in your friendship circle, the goal is to know someone who gets the cake and then to go try it, which I got to do last year. So you don't get the cake? I've never worked with him. I've never even, well, I have met him. Look at him. I'm not supposed to get the cake. No, I don't deserve it. Yeah, you should have got the cake. Did you get Vin's, how do you call it, the house you built from cookies in America? Oh, gingerbread? Gingerbread house? Who gives a gingerbread house? Vin. Oh, that's his thing.
1:01:54Did you get it? No, I've never worked with him. No. Do you get the gingerbread house? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, the biggest one. I need a house for that. They bring it in a mobile home trailer. We should start doing this. We should start sending out something and it's like special. Our guests will get it. You should send like cool chairs. Obviously. That feels expensive. Yeah, could you do something more like a$100 range? I think the gingerbread is very expensive. I bet. I think the Tom Cruise cake is pricey too. You see? But that sounds great. Wait a minute. I think of us trying to compile the list and get addresses and then I'm out.
1:02:27So wait a second. You didn't try the cake. It was a game night at Liz Banks' house. And someone at this party had worked with Tom Cruise enough that they got the cake. And they're smart. They know to bring it to the party because everyone wants to try the Tom Cruise cake. What was it? It's coconut. It's always a coconut cake. With like a vanilla spongy middle. I guess. I've looked up pictures. It's beautiful. I've considered ordering it myself. It's a thing. I'm so out of the loop. It's so hard to immerse in the American culture fully. When you're a mother of so many children and you're so tired.
1:03:00You don't need to. How many kids do you have? Two. Two girls? Two girls. You have four girls, right? Yeah. How old? 11 and 13. Oh. That's right. How's it going? That's right. How's the 13th? I'll leave it at there because they're their own people. Okay. Well, no, I tell everything that's spectacular about them. Good. I think that's what we should do. That's right. Oh, so you live it at that. You're fucked. You know we're entering teenagehood. I know, I know, I know. How old's your oldest? Fourteen and a half. Yeah, you know exactly what's happening. Going to high school now. I have like a teenage girl, a girl, a toddler, and like a little girl.
1:03:35A little girl and a toddler. It's everywhere. You got them all. It's amazing. It's exhausting and it's hard too. It's very hard. They didn't expect it. As soon as you figure them out, they change. Exactly. There's never like a status quo. And every time someone has a different need that you need to adjust everybody to. Yeah. But it's the most rewarding and amazing thing. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.
1:04:10It's funny, my mom always tells me, oh, it's so hard. Like any challenge about life or my mom is like, wow, it's so hard. How do you do it? It's like she relates too much that she feels more suffering than I ever will. Not just the kids, like anything. And I started telling her, Ima, I feel like life is a struggle. Every day, it's not comfortable. Life is not convenient. Correct. It's always like we need to overcome. But then is when you're happy. That's when you get happy. Yeah. When you earn it. OK, so through the Batman v Superman, you end up getting your own movie, Wonder Woman, the first one.
1:04:53And Monica, do you remember how much money this fucking movie made? I don't. 862. It opened at$103 million. The estimates were like 65. And this fucking thing was just a juggernaut. I love that. How after these years of frustration, did you integrate this new bit of information that was virtually opposite of your whole ride prior to that? How did you join these two experiences into something cohesive? And how hard or easy was that? I think like in life, it builds up, right? You don't leave the jumps. I'm not still stuck in where I was and all the rejection. Now I had to deal with filming a movie and be the little girl that needs to conquer this mountain.
1:05:35And how do I do it? And it's the first time that I'm doing a movie that is my title and it's so physical and how do I do it and being a mom. And so there was a lot to do throughout the film. We were always pushing. Patty and I were always like, let's change the script and the studio wouldn't give you the extra money to film it. So you need to film the two versions of the scene all in one day to make sure. So you do all of that. Also, yeah, they had half the budget. A normal movie of that kind would have had. We were like the underdogs. Yeah. Again, going back to women's health awareness and all of that.
1:06:12Let's do a movie for the girls and. Exactly. Hopefully it'll break even. Yeah, exactly. Let's see how it's going. Let's give them no resources. And Patty and I were like, this is going to be so special and we need this type of movie and we need this type of, and it's all about love, love, love. We were all, from the first time Patty and I met, all we talk about was love and humanity and how do we bring light to the world? And it sounds a little bit like, who the fuck do we think we are, right? But when you're given an opportunity to tell a story that is about something and you want to say something about something positive, why not?
1:06:49Yeah. So we were super invested. And then the movie comes out. It was amazing, but I wasn't popping. Okay. To be fair, I was going through a postpartum. I had my second one and she was eight weeks old when we started promoting the movie and I had a major back injury. So I was miserable. And then, so when the movie opened, I was very happy and I felt satisfied with the success, but I wasn't happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was some kind of asymmetry between where I was personally in my own life, in my own body to what the outside world would think about me. Okay, so that kind of answers my next question, which is so often I think for many of us who get lucky, it's weirdly hard to be present for it because the lucky event can potentially lead to lots of opportunity, lots of options, lots of shit in the future.
1:07:53It signals, oh, wow, I might now have this future. And so the monkey brain can't resist thinking of now what's possible because of this one thing. You often kind of miss the thing. Did you experience that at all? For me, it's not even that necessarily. Well, first of all, the way my mental health works, and it's nothing that I do to control it, I only realize what happened to me in retrospective. So when I'm there, it's too overwhelming. It's too much to grasp and to understand fully. So I just ride the wave and I understand it clicks, but I'm not feeling it. Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only in retrospective when I can actually grasp it.
1:08:39Yeah. In retrospective, I can grasp on these type of things. I feel like when it happens, it's too overwhelming. You don't have time. It makes me sad, though. But I think it's a protection mechanism that our mind has. Because you can lose your mind. Some part of you doesn't trust it. It's very hard to compute what's happening. It's also not about me. It's not about you. Yes, it's my success. It's my face. It's my movie, blah, blah, blah. But it's not me that they love. It's like this image, this character. A female being a matriarch, which no one gets to see. No little girls get to see. Or it's very rare.
1:09:18Yes, I agree with you. And when I say it, I'm talking about not just as the female. It's funny. I'm trying to find the right words to put it. But I think that if you really get it, if you're really present in the moment of success because of the ego, it can bring you to places that can be very tricky. You're suggesting that it might be healthier to miss it. Not to miss it completely, but it's like the best food for ego, right? Yes, yes, yes. And I think, most people think that ego is the worst enemy a human can have. It can take you out. I think ego's gotten a bad rap, but I know what you're saying.
1:09:56Okay, I'm interested to hear. Yeah, this notion you should be egoless is ridiculous. You need your ego. You can't be ego. No, and you need to pursue your own. And then you go too far and you learn and you dial it back. But it's a yin and yang and it's a balance. And I see the ego like this, like, yeah, give me yourself. Bottomless. Yes. Insatiable. Exactly. On a very superficial level. And it is. But there is a percentage of it that is ideal. That makes you a better person. Yeah. That makes you live up to what the ego tells you you are. That thinks, I might be able to do this thing currently. It doesn't seem like I could.
1:10:25That's your ego. And that's good. Someone stared at Everest and was like, yeah, no one's got to the top of that. I think I could. That's ego. Now, if he gets up there and he's like, oh, my God. Yeah. Now we're in trouble. Exactly. But the ego got you up there. But don't you think a lot of people, I met a lot of successful people that when I talked to them about the moment of success, the moment of breakthrough that they've had in their careers, I find that a lot of them were in the same area as I was. They didn't pop the champagnes and like parties and we did it. They had some weird tension going on with it.
1:11:01I had it even more because of the postpartum and because of my back injury. And some would say that it's all one. Yeah. It's all part of one thing. Well, yeah, I think it's hard when people are like, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, you're the greatest. And you're you. You don't feel like the greatest. By the way, you're not. And if you feel like you're the greatest, then that's also a problem. It's a huge problem. Yeah. So I think being wary of it's wise. Yeah. You got to keep your eye on it. You got to keep. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the runner. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I had brought up Tom Cruise because nobody has ever ran in a motion picture as well as Tom Cruise.
1:11:39I'm so obsessed with his running. My children are, too. We watch the Mission Impossible movies on repeat. We love them. I love it. And I love that every one of those movies, they're going to build in a sequence where you're going to watch this man run. And sometimes you're going to watch this man run in a one solid wide shot for like two and a half minutes at a sprint. Yeah, it's amazing. And I'm like, how does this guy not rip his Achilles and his hammies and his everything? He did. He did. Okay, that's the answer. How does he not? He does. Yeah. Okay, so the premise of the runner is you are a lawyer and you are also a runner and you have this little boy and the little boy's diabetic.
1:12:19When we meet you, you're dropping him off at school and then you're going to go for your run. We can tell immediately this is your half hour of your day. Right. That is bliss. She starts the day. She goes for a run. What's the great song you start with? Blondie. Was it Blondie? Yeah, it's Blondie. It's so good that when I heard it, I was like, fuck, I got to drop back into some Blondie. It's so good. She's so good. So you start running. There's another dude in the park. Oh, now it annoys me that I can't remember. Rob. Rob. Help. Trying to find an help. Help me. I love the bell. I love the bell.
1:12:48One way or another? One way. No. No. Bring a fire? No. Okay, we're not going to find it. Okay, whatever. All right, go on. I thought you were going to look at the movie credits. I ain't, but it's not. They're not there yet. Okay. Okay. So. I love you, Rob. You have a hard job. We're constantly like, how many feet are in a kilometer? Go. I need it now. Now I say easy. We checked. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So yes, you've dropped your kid off. You're going through your run through the park. You know, you're on a call with a client. We learned that you're a lawyer. And then it's back to fun time. And you see another dude who's running.
1:13:23He's fast. And already at this point in the movie, I'm like, how long is she going to run? Yep. Y 'all, she's going to run the entire fucking movie. It's insane. So just in a nutshell, you get then another call. It's coming from your child's phone. You learn quickly that your son's been abducted by somebody. And now this person is giving the kind of, I would say that things that it parallels is on the bus speed, a lock. You're on a phone call. Someone has the leverage. I'm racing time to save my son's life. That's right. And you run through all of London, I'm pretty sure. Over six miles of London.
1:13:58And are they like, if you stop running, he's dead? I'm not allowed to stop running. I'm not allowed to talk to anybody. I'm not allowed to get on a cab or a tube or anything. I need to run and save my child. Because there is a legal case she's involved with. We're not going to tell her the whole movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A nonstop. When you start watching it, it's like not a second to take another breath. You're at the edge of your seat. In no particular order. What is the game plan? You go like, okay, you read the script. Okay, yeah, this is really cool. And then do you even let yourself go like, but how are we going to film this?
1:14:35And what will that experience be like? Do you not let yourself even consider that because you like the movie? Okay, so I'll give you the time frame. So I read it after what happened to me with my fourth baby. and almost dying, blah, blah, blah. They did the whole thing. It took me many months to recover. So for months, for the first months, I was just in bed, listening to podcasts, reading a little bit and just resting and walking with shades in the house all the time because I had migraines all day long. And then I read the script and I think to myself, really fucking good script. I couldn't put it down.
1:15:10It was so good. I read it one go. When it works, it works and you know it. And I speak to my agent and I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this film now. And honestly, I don't even know if Tom Cruise can do this film. I think the running is nonstop. Who can do this film? Is it AI? Who's going to run? Yeah. 110 pages of running? And she's like, okay, just take the call with Kevin MacDonald, the director. Quickly add, he directed one of my very favorite movies of all time, Last King of Scotland. Yeah. Amazing, talented, great, great director. I take the Zoom with him. And I say to myself, I'm not going to start talking about what happened to me in my head.
1:15:48I'm not going to, I'm just going to be professional. Let's talk about it. And he's like, so I heard you just said your baby. I'm like, yeah. He's like, it gets easier from one pregnancy to the next, no? From one delivery to the next. I was like, well, not really on this one. He's like, what happened? And I'm like, I had like a thing called CBT, but it's fine now. You had cerebral venous thrombosis. He knew about it? He had it before I did. No way! We call that sim. No way. Six weeks before I did. Six weeks before. Oh my goodness. What number child was his? Three. Who was he giving birth to? We're pregnant at Elisean.
1:16:26No, but I was like, there's a migrant stage? Yes, I'm in it. Anyway, we connect on this level. We talk about the script. He tells me his vision. I love it. But I say, listen, I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not there. I'm just recovering. Yeah. And he says, well, after talking to you now, I can't imagine anybody else doing this role. How long would you need? And I go, nine months, one year. And we hang up. And then he calls me back, I think within the hour. And he said, the studio is willing to push it for you. Would you be in? Are you in? And then I said, yeah. And you know what else is crazy?
1:17:10All the neurologists that I went to see after what happened to me told me, you need to break sweat at least half an hour a day. If there's one thing I hate, it's running. Hate. Oh, really? And I'm also spiritual a little bit. I was like, this is the universe giving me exactly what I need. A director that will understand what I've been through. Breaking sweat like there's no tomorrow. Forcing you. What can be better than that? So a couple of months later, they brought me the most amazing trainers. And were they specifically like running coaches? The first one, Malachi, was for running. And was that person like a collegiate coach or something for running?
1:17:46He trains the U.S. Olympic winner. Oh, there we go. Incredible. And I worked with him every day for months. And was he a sprinting coach or a long distance coach? Sprinting, but I ran long distance. Yeah. So my question was, I had a sprinting incident on my birthday this year. Are you a runner? Well, I'm born on January 2nd. My New Year's resolution was, okay, I got to do sprints twice a week. That was your New Year's resolution. You've got to do sprints. Twice a week. Yeah. Your life is in a really good place. Absolutely. I'm down to that. You're right. What a privilege that that was. No, it's amazing.
1:18:22Anyways, first run out. I happened to do with a bunch of people. We got a little competitive. My friend blew out a butt cheek. I fucked up my foot. And then I was like, okay, I got to learn what the pre-sprint warm up is. And then I asked chat. And, dude, it's lengthy. He's fucking swing this way. I mean. Of course, it's hard on your body. Sprinting's very hard. Don't make me feel stupid. Super hard. I know. It's hard. Like my husband say, don't try. I don't know. How old are you? 51. My husband, he always say, never pick up a new sports after 50. Yeah, I think that's fair and smart. Yeah. I mean, I had sprinted before.
1:18:57Anyways, was there an insane warmup before you would do takes? Yeah. I'm an impatient person. So that part of the process would be very hard for me. Like, okay, I'm about to do the scene. I'm going to do 20 minutes of warm up. No, not like that. Okay. But it would be in like seven minutes. Now I need to do some cycling. Then I need to do some stretching. Then I need to do this. And then I go. But I finished the film on crotches. Oh, my next question was, did you get hurt? How many times did you get hurt? I got hurt multiple times throughout the film. The character had a watch and I connected the watch to my phone so I can see my steps and everything.
1:19:33I had weeks where I had like 150 something thousand steps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was nonstop and there's no time to recover. You don't sleep well because you film all the time. You work in the cold, in the heat, whatever. And when people watch this movie and they're like, wow, that was a really long sprint. I don't think I could sprint that long. You must remember that was one of eight takes before the fucking extras crossed at the right time. It was a whole thing. But I had like stress fractures. In my feet. I bet. And I'm an ugly runner. No, I was just about to make the opposite statement.
1:20:09No, because we know how to film it. Okay. I run beautifully until my knees. Knees down. What happens? Phoebe from Friends. No. I'm telling you. Her whole body is smiling. No, she does it. No, that's all in control. But knees down. But what do you mean? There's not much to the knee down. You mean the feet? Well, you'll be surprised. Okay, I kind of want to see it. I kick them out. I kick them out. Oh, because they're like, I think. Okay, well, that did probably hurt your feet. Okay, so we want to do heel-toe next time. Just reminding people about it. No, heel-toe. I did heel-toe and everything.
1:20:48It's just the way I'm built. Did you have days where you, you know, you've got your 6 a.m. pickup or whatever, you have longer hair and makeup, it's probably 5 a.m. Did you have any days where you woke up and you're like, oh, yeah, not a chance we can shoot that scene today? Never, ever, ever happened to me in my entire career. Wow. Even in this movie. I trust the people that I work with. I know that everyone that are going to show up are going to show up. And I need to deliver. Wow. Okay. But if I have these type of moments, even then. I was about to say, unless I'm like super sick. But even then, I work.
1:21:19Any cortisone shots in joints or feet during the filming? Were they having to work on you like a boxer? Yeah. They worked on me every day, every other day. Yeah. It was insane. That's the athlete in you. You're going to keep pushing. You're just going to show up and do it. Yeah, even on crutches. By the way, when I was on crutches, we filmed tighter shots. I'm envious of you to have this movie in your life when you're older and your girls are grown up. And like just the physical fucking test you passed. But I knew it was a gift. It wasn't like, oh, fuck, how am I going to do it? It was like, shit, I'm going to learn how to run.
1:21:55Oh, my God. But you did it. It's like it's an accomplishment in and of itself, which I hope is rewarding to you. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have something, period. You'll walk away with something, period. Exactly. Which is rare. Forever. That's right. Well, Gail, this was a delight. It was so much fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope you enjoyed your first podcast. It was great. Okay, good. They're all like this. I'll always remember you guys. They're all like this. So just say yes to all of them. I promise they're all like this. It's a lot of fun. They're fun. Thank you so much for being so interested.
1:22:23Watch The Runner on Amazon Prime, September... Second. Second, second, second. September 2nd, September 2nd, September 2nd. Okay, The Runner, Amazon Prime, September 2nd. Thank you so much for coming. This was fun. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He is an armchair expert, but he makes mistakes all the time. Thank God Monica's here. She's got to let him have the facts. I want to start with revisiting my hemorrhoid thing. Okay. I've done a bit more of an autopsy on it and what I think actually happened. Because I think when we talked about it, I kind of blamed Hannes, if you recall.
1:23:00that's what precluded preluded it and um I know actually what happened I'm so used to having the brondle the sprayer and here I had this harness on the road and I was doing a ton of wiping and I'm out of practice wiping without the bundle and I go too hard and too frequent because it It just doesn't because I'm so used to being able to clean, clean. And I realized that's what caused it. So I'm back kind of on the toilet, spending more time again on Instagram and stuff because I've decided it was definitely more about the white bean, I think is what it was. Okay. Good luck to you. I believe it.
1:23:45You now have one, right? I had one. Not a hemorrhoid flower. That's what I thought as well. A brundle. Like you have a you have a flushy or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I have now in every bathroom. Yeah. And it changes your life, right? It's yeah. You're pampered. You are. You're you take way less abuse down there. Yeah. Yeah. You get the job done way less. Yeah. Well, report back on if you get another one. OK. Next time you're on the road. It won't be. It's going to be because he's on the toilet for a long time. He does spend a few minutes down there. Yeah. Yeah. Some me time. I just read a comment the other day that said, I know you're reading on this on the toilet.
1:24:33Get off. And I wrote on there, busted. When else am I going to do it? I'm not looking at Instagram unless I'm on the toilet. Yeah, that's true. Speaking of things people have said, a lot of people asked if Jack McBrayer texted me on my birthday. He did not. I'm very sorry. So I just need to make that known. Did you text Kechner? No, he texts me, but he didn't. We haven't, we actually haven't done that in a few years. You haven't celebrated a birthday buddy Stan as well? No, but I wish, I wish him the happiest birthday. You share with Kechner? Yeah. And he used to text me on my birthday because we were birthday buddies.
1:25:10We're very sweet. Yeah. So I guess I didn't make the cut for Jack. And he can try again next year. Okay. This is. Putting that out there. Formal heads up to him. August 24th. Big one next year. If ever there was a time to start sending the text, it's next birthday. That's true. So, you know, my birthday, I went to a really good restaurant. I was just about to ask, how was your birthday dinner? It was incredible. It's called River. It's in Venice. Highly recommend. It was so good. And there were some arm cherries working. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. And so they brought over a special treat. Treat. What was it?
1:25:52An aperitivo. That's a cocktail? It's like an after dinner drink. Okay. An aperitif? Yeah. I think it's an aperitif. Yeah, not an aperitivo. Oh, I thought the actual name of the drink was aperitivo, like a spinoff of aperitif. No, I was saying. Is it Aperol in it or is it some kind of apricot? I don't think it has Aperol in it. Or teef. Aperitifs have different ones. It was like Fernet, ding, ding, ding. When we had Burt Kreischer on, we gave each other drinks to drink. Yes. And he wanted me to drink Fernet. That's an after dinner drink, an aperitif. Okay. They're all interesting. They kind of have like a licorice.
1:26:34They taste kind of weird. I think they're meant to like. Syrupy. Do they coat? A little. I think they're meant to like cleanse your palate. Grambouillet? Drambouillet? Drambouillet. Drambouillet is an aperitif. Drambouille? Yeah, people only drink it after their meal. Or Grand Marnier. Grand Marnier is something, but I don't know if that's aperitif. That's in like... Drambouille. You know, I carry Drambouille when I have the bar. I don't have a clue what it is. Have you ever tasted it? You would never have it as a cocktail, or I would have never. How do you spell it? If they're a sponsor, I'll be happy to...
1:27:07B-R-A-M-B-U-I, I think. Okay. It's liqueur. Liqueur. Golden Color. 40 % ABV liqueur made from scotch, whiskey, heather, honey, herbs, and spices. See, that's an aperitif for sure. Yeah, definitely. That's a dessert. No wonder I never served it or tried it. That makes me think you're declaring this is my last drink of the night, which I would never have done. It might have been, though, it might be like Grand Marnier where you like cook with it or something. I'm not seeing the word aperitif anywhere on this Wikipedia. Could you ask it when it's normally drank? It's a brand. Wait. See, brandy is an after dinner drink for sure.
1:27:52But aperitif is not all. All after dinner drinks are not aperitifs, but all aperitifs are after dinner drinks. Are there different types of cigars that are for after dinner? Probably. Right? With your brandy. an aperitif translates directly into english as a pre-dinner alcoholic drink meant to stimulate oh that makes sense because aperitivo is pre-dinner that makes yeah but there's a but no sorry so there's aperitifs and digestifs and those are for after okay so which one is it's neither no no it says it's traditionally a digestif okay traditionally yeah look i've been at a million meals where people order that after.
1:28:39Drambouille? Yeah. I think my father even would bang a drambouille. That's funny. I had a bottle and I don't remember ever serving once in seven years. Of course. That bar? No one came to that bar to have the last drink of the night. A digested. No one had eaten. I would have punched them in the face if they asked me for a digested. Get out of here. We have that as a test. It's also used in classic cocktails. Rusty Nail. Oh. That was my dad's drink. Yes, it was. Okay. So that's just a cocktail That's not a DG Steve. Then a Bobby Burns. That sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. Bobbies are fun. That's a Scotch Sweet Vermouth Drambuie.
1:29:16I can't even say it. That sounds so stupid. Drambuie? Yeah. And bitters. Yeah, Drambuie's really bumping for you, I can tell. It sounds like a word you completely made up. Yeah. It sounds like baby talk. Yeah, it does. What do you want? My Drambuie. Your what? Your dark bottle? Your dark blanket?
1:29:38Yeah. Well, it was a tremendous meal for you. What were the entrees? What did you? Oh my God. We got so much stuff because it's in Venice, notoriously very far away from my home. Time-wise. Time-wise. Not at all far. Nautically. That's true. Yeah. But so we are not going to go that often. Plus it's very hard to get in. So I don't, so we had to kind of get everything we wanted. Eat the whole menu because it's one and done maybe. Yeah. So we got we each got a hand roll, different ones. We each got no, those were the each. So we got this like kind of fried chicken thing. It was so good. I love fried chicken.
1:30:20Wagyu skewers. Come on. Yes. A rice. What? Leftovers? I think there was a few leftovers that obviously just took home. there was a rice like kind of a fried rice but and it had sweet corn and it was delicious we got oh we got a ramen that was amazing what else did we get there we were I'm missing like a big section I think a lot of vegetables an eggplant dish a sweet potato dish a something You traditionally like eggplant. I do love eggplant. You like eggplant. I love eggplant parm. Okay. I mean. I think it's a big mush. Well, if you're just boiling it, yeah. But if you are creating a yummy eggplant dish, it's good.
1:31:12I think that sounds delicious. I can't remember the last time I had it. To me, it's mush surrounded by a skin you can't even chew. Actually, I like it in my Thai food. Yeah. Eggplant? Oh, wow. Yeah. If you're just cooking it willy-nilly, Like an eggplant steak. Yeah. If you're just boiling, it sounds like you're just boiling it. I've never prepared eggplant. I've just taken a bite of eggplant parmesan. Oh, I love eggplant parmesan. It's mush with this ring around it that's hard to chew. Probably prefer chicken parm, but. Well, yeah. That's my issue. When I've been next to people that order the eggplant parm, they're not vegetarian.
1:31:53I'm like, they have chicken parm. It's not like they don't have it. I had it at Little Dom's on Sunday, eggplant parm. Over chicken parm. I think I'd order both and eat the eggplant on top of the chicken maybe. That would be a move. Eggplant parm to me is almost more lasagna-ish than it is chicken parm. Okay. All right. Because it's often stacked if it's done correctly. Speaking of leftovers, so you had a girl's only birthday party on Sunday. It really wasn't a birthday party. It was like a last minute. I was like, I want to play Mahjong today. It's my birthday weekend. So I just kind of texted all the ladies I know.
1:32:35And I was like, does anyone want to come over for this? And then you catered it with all time in that you got a bunch of takeout from all time. Yeah. And so then Kristen brought one of the dishes back to our house. Yes, she did. And then I opened the fridge and I see, oh, is that an all time box? And then I go and it's that fucking rice with that insane sauce and eggs. Aaron, it's so, we have to figure out when we're going before you go out of town. And there was just a little half of it. Didn't we just go yesterday? Well, that's why we went. Oh, okay. So then I went. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God, I wonder if there's more at Monica's house.
1:33:10So I text you, hey, is there any more? You didn't respond. So then I just went over there because I was like rabbit now. And Jess had just finished. It wasn't. To be fair, we didn't get into it. It wasn't him. Okay. He's like barely eating. It's a little stressful for me. But it was a bunch. It was a big party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And most of the food was gone. I mean, Kristen took an entire thing. So I assumed for you. Well, it was half gone when I dug into it. All right. But then that got me a little crazy for all time. So then Aaron and I went and he had never been. So good. And we had the most romantic dinner on the sidewalk candlelit.
1:33:51Yep. And they do a steak for two for lovers, really. It is. We discussed the steak for two because Callie and I would always get the steak for two and we'd eat it all. And everyone was surprised because it's a big old steak. The steak is easy to take down with two people. It's the sides that are impossible. We did not accomplish eating all the sides. We probably left three pounds of potatoes. Yes. A lot of potatoes. And it's so good. And I mean, I ate a lot of it. Yeah. The cauliflower, the peppers. We had ordered stupidly a side. I didn't even know that steak came with all that stuff. So I'd ordered the shrooms, the King Temple or something shrooms.
1:34:26I would love to do a double date with you and Kelly. Yeah. Two steaks. In between our tables is a puddle of oil from those dishes. Does that happen when you get it, Monica? Because we were outdoors, so it didn't matter terribly much, but it was just gushing fat off the side of it over the table. And the whole sidewalk was stained where we were eating. Like I think they'd have to throw kitty litter on it. Oh, no. Absolutely. I've never noticed that before. It's like someone dumped their oil out of their engine. Oh, God. But it was still lishy. It's so good there. It's so good. Love it. I have a story.
1:35:03Okay. I was with my friend Sally. We were driving to Honor Bar in Beverly Hills. And we look over and do you know Coco? Coco is a robot. Oh, wow. The gorilla. Okay. Coco is a robot that carries food. A delivery system. And it's like a box and pretty low to the ground on wheels that travels across the city and drops off. It's the cutest thing ever. I know. It has a little smiley face on the front. And like eyes. I think it has eyes. Now, I do think normally they have a flag. So it's like you can see. They started with flags when they came out seven years ago. The flags are gone. They've all been ripped off and broken.
1:35:53Well, yeah. Because so we're at the stoplight. Yep, that's Coco. Oh, that one has a flag. They get themselves into a lot of trouble. They're rascally. I see them sometimes. I can't tell if they're playing or they're really stuck. They'll be going in a circle around a tree. And I'm like, is it playing? It's uncomfortable. And also Jess said that if it's at a stoplight, it asks people to press the button for it. Oh, really? I've never experienced that. I would love to help. I would carry it across. No, you might have seen that on TikTok or something. But anyway, so we look over and there's a car accident.
1:36:29A car hit Coco. Oh, no. And Coco was under, like, kind of under. Oh, no. And then they were trying to pull. They were so confused, obviously. And they're, like, trying to pull over, but it's, like, stuck under there. By the way, lots of damage to the car. Oh, sure. So then Sally and I are screaming. Like we've seen a kid get hit. Yeah, I'd rather see a kid get hit. Sure, we all know. a dog, a kid, a grandmother. No, Sally had the right. I was, I was like, Coco, Coco! I was screaming and she was like, that's bad. That's really bad. But she was saying, cause the car, like she was like, oh my God, that car is like serious.
1:37:15She cared about the car? No, this is where I'm going. Where I actually then after was like, oh my, I can't believe I felt like real feelings about that against a Mercedes, kin of my car. Sure, sure, cousin. Yes. And it's like a kind of older couple and they're so confused. And like the lady like opens the door to see. And I imagine being that lady and you're in the car, something's clearly horrible. You've hit something. Yeah, you're dragging now. Yeah, and then you open it and you see it's Coco. And so first you're like relieved Because I'm sure you're like, I hit an animal or a person. Someone on a bike.
1:37:57Yes. Yeah. So first you're relieved and then you're so pissed. I mean, imagine how pissed you'd be if you hit a robot that was crossing the street and it damaged your car. And now you have to call, what, 911 and be like, reporting an accident. The police come. Coco's there. Coco seemed actually okay. Really? Yeah. They're sturdy. Wow. I know. Then I thought about the people not receiving their pizza. Yeah. The glass of wine that was inside. Yeah. It was probably me. Erin and I think that you can order a glass of beer and cocoa. We're like, be careful. And it's just bouncing through the sidewalk.
1:38:34Am I talking to Sarah? Be careful. Yeah. There's a sip left. So it was traumatic. And then yesterday I was walking by, in Venice, there was like a bunch of cocos. And they were all like in a line. And we said it was for the service. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, of course it was. Now, I'm inclined to think that Coco was probably following the rules. I don't think they can break rules. So this woman probably didn't look in the crosswalk. It was a man driving, to be fair, but yes. Oh, I thought, why did I hear you say - No, because the woman was in the passenger seat, so she opened it to see and was like, what the fuck?
1:39:10Yeah, so they were probably chatting and they missed that Coco was in the crosswalk. I know, but I don't think, I really think it's very hard to see when you don't have the flag. So, yes, obviously they turned on red. Coco doesn't just drive out into traffic or go on red lights on the crosswalk. Yeah, I think it was crossing and they turned probably in front of Coco. Was it an SUV or a car? Monster truck? Yeah, I'm wondering like. It's so tall. Yeah, if you're in a big SUV. She said Mercedes. Was it a G-Wagon? It wasn't. It was a, I think it was a sedan. SUV. It was like my car. I believe in the human.
1:39:48I do too. But Aaron. If you now have to pay for damage to your car, like that is life ruining. If a robot pulls in front of you and is just dragging, like the car is just getting crumpled. Who owns Coco? Exactly. And then I thought this, I was like, okay, now whose fault is it and who should pay for what? And now this human has to pay. That's what's tricky is like, we can say almost for sure it was the people driving's fault. Because, again, they don't jump out into traffic. But Coco can't give a statement. Oh, I bet Coco has onboard video. They probably do. Yeah. So I bet when they call Coco's parents and say, you owe me so much money, Coco's parents.
1:40:36Yeah. They're going to go, well, let's review the tape. And they're going to go, Coco had the crosswalk was inviting Coco to go into it. It's your obligation to see if anything's in the crosswalk before you turn right on red. And they're going to say, go fuck yourself. They're going to say we couldn't see her. And then they're going to have to call their insurance company and their insurance company's going to pay for it. See, this is horrible. I hate to think of Coco getting reprimanded for this. No. Yeah, me too. No. If you're going to walk out and even if you're walking out, you still have to be careful.
1:41:07Coco is extremely careful. This is why sometimes you see them stuck at a tree. No, they're not careful. They're just like. The other funny thing about Coco. They have learning disabilities. Just to tell people, Coco goes so fast sometimes. Have you ever seen Coco haul ass? Yeah. Oh, it's so funny. Have you seen it? Yeah, I have, yeah. Because they're so scared all the time. And they go so slow most of the time. But when they get some wide open sidewalk, they fucking, they punch it. Yeah, yeah. That's why I think they're a little rascal. They go slow when they're around people and stuff. They have sensors, obviously.
1:41:40Whatever. I just, I couldn't believe my reaction. I could not believe. I think that's the right reaction. No, I don't know. I'm trying not to. We shouldn't have too many feelings around these robots. It's getting people. Some girl died. Well, she did. She died talking to her chat. Oh, what? Yeah, she did. She did. She had mental health issues. Yeah. She was struggling and she was talking to chat and something or an AI. She's talking to an AI. Yeah. And I didn't finish reading it. Yeah. Okay. But basically, I don't think we need to have two. I think we need to. This is how I feel about animals.
1:42:19Okay. It's the same thing where I'm like, we still have to prioritize humans above. It's hard. And I'm going to say humans, animals. I'm going to give you guys this. Humans, animals, robots. In that order. But there are some exceptions. Like you have to. Okay. A silverback of which there are very limited number. versus one of the eight and a half billion people on the planet. No. If there's a button I have to hit, that's a tough call. Doesn't matter what person it is. I won't know who it is. This is like that interesting. There was a great, what was the old spooky show from the 60s and 70s? Twilight Zone.
1:43:04There was a Twilight Zone with this guy. Someone comes to his house, basically says, for X amount of money, you hit this button. somebody on the planet who you've never met will die and then you know through the course of the episode he agrees what do they get money a ton of money okay he hits the button and then he says to the person what happens now and they go we take it to someone on the planet that you've never met or whatever basically what you realize is someone you're next whoever hits the button now kills you pretty good twist. I hate pressing that button. I would never press that button.
1:43:42Over a silverback? Yeah, I'm for humans. I might be willing, if I didn't have children, I might sacrifice myself for a silverback. Okay, you can sacrifice yourself all you want, but killing for Coco. No. What if I dove out of the, like I dove and pushed Coco out of the way right before he got hit and I got hit by a car saving Coco's life. he'd be a hero in my eyes to give me a police military send off I hope this city would have like a big presentation for me I miss her I'm sorry that happened to her I wonder what happened to those elderly so you think it's a her that one was they're different because I most often think it's a little boy oh I think of it as a her you do yeah they have names They do?
1:44:33Yeah, their names are printed on the side so you can tell. See, it's just fucking what's up. It's trying to, oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. I hate Coco, but I love her. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.
1:45:01What's the difference? Like you're fine with me loving Groot, right? Of course. But Monica, is there a huge difference between like here's why I love Groot. I look at him and he's always in a good, he's in the best mood. I know. And I know he has challenges. He has a lot of challenges with the respiratory system. I know. Yeah. And I look at him, I'm like, God, man, despite all things, he's always got the sweetest smile on his face. And I love him a lot. I know, but that's different. If it was a gorilla or Groot, watch out. I don't know what to do. So it goes Groot, gorilla, humans.
1:45:46Groot, though, is connected to Delta. That's the real reason. If you just saw a Groot on the street, you'd be like, oh, my God, look at that cute stuffy. Right. It's my grandson. It's my grandson. It's her child. Yeah, so that's obviously different. He's so cute like a Coco is. I know. But let's say, okay, let's say you're driving and you're turning right on red. No one's there, right? And all of a sudden you squish over something and then you look and there's a Groot on the ground that someone threw. Someone threw a Groot. Not Delta's Groot. I think any Groot, you know, that's what they say when you have a kid, all children, you know.
1:46:27Clearly not, because you're willing to kill a human and a human. No. An old adult. An adult is someone's kid. Not anymore. There's an old enough that their parent died. Whether your children are old, they don't qualify. If I'm dead, yeah. No, none of this is helpful. Okay, so someone throws a stuffy. Yeah. It gets caught, and somehow that stuffy has metal in it, too, and it's like ruining the car, right? No, that sucks for the people driving. No, but you've made it that. Even though he's cute. But someone threw it. So now I'm mad at whoever chucked, whoever treated Groot that way. No, okay, Groot has the mechanism.
1:47:04And they fucked up my car. They got a real problem on their hands now. Exactly. Okay, I think if this happened to you, you would be very upset that your car was hurt. I hope they televised this court case. I know. I agree. Your mom will be all over it. She will be. She really will be. It was wild to see. It was wild. When you were telling the story of seeing the car, it made me think of yesterday. Aaron and I were recording mom's car and we're driving around. And again, there's so much going on when we do mom's car. We're delivering food. In this case, we had three different orders. We have two guests in the backseat.
1:47:40There's a lot. I'm driving. There's cameras everywhere. First episode. Yeah. First episode. We have things we got to say now. And I spot a guy who's opening his door of his truck while he's driving. and forget, do you, do you know how long we were with that guy? Like, had you clocked it as soon as I did? We were with that guy for like, I didn't hear anything anyone said for like eight minutes. All I was like, when's he going to open his door again? We were behind this truck, Monica, and the guy was opening his door all the time while he was driving. And I'm like, what's going on? Is he going to barrel roll out the side?
1:48:13Finally, I said something. I'm like, gang, we got a guy with open his door and everything. Then we pulled up next to him at the traffic light. And then I felt a little bad. It seems our theory, our current theory was his air conditioning wasn't working and his power windows were broken. And it was so brutally hot yesterday. So he had to be fanning the door while he drove. Yeah. And he had what seemed to be his wife or girlfriend. Looked like a girlfriend. Yeah. Girlfriend. How embarrassing for him. I know. We felt really bad. It's also my mom's birthday on a positive note. Happy birthday, Laura.
1:48:46Happy birthday. So many birthdays. Yeah, it's heavy. It's a heavy, heavy week. I was just saying it this morning. I know, it kind of sucks. We got Carly. You say your birthday's bad, but I think my birthday's bad because everyone has it. And then like. It's not as special. It's not. Like you're like saying happy birthday to everyone. I got Carly, Grandma Yolas, rest in peace. Then you, then my mom, then Jess. Then there's like eight birthdays that I know of in the 10 day stretch. It's impacted. The only other one that's as impacted as I'd say Aaron's birthday. Five people in that window of July 1st to July 8th.
1:49:30July's. Ryan Hanson, I know. Ryan Hanson, you. I'm forgetting. So, Anna. I'm forgetting some, but there's a lot. Aaron Tyrell's son shares a J2C. Oh, lucky him. He actually, I saw him recently, came over my house. He took care of the dogs for a couple of days. And he said, it was right before the birthday. And I was like, happy birthday. He goes, you think it would be cool if I got a tattoo? How is he, 15 or 14? He's 16. 16. And what did you say? No, tattoos are not good. I said, technically, there's only two people in this club. But you do what you want. That's cute that he wants it. Okay, I have a question I'll ask both of you.
1:50:20And then we need to do facts. How often are you changing out your towel after a shower? You know, you shower, use your towel. How often are you then putting that in the laundry and getting a new one? Well, once a week. That doesn't happen because of me. Okay, that's fair. Once a week, Ruthie does a whole gathering of floor mats. You know, the whole thing. If we were. Just you. Just me. I'm always, I always think it's still good. You think it's clean. Because you're clean. You just cleaned yourself. But it's water. It's like you got that mold and mildew. If you hang it in a place that dries quickly, I would definitely go five showers on a towel.
1:51:08Okay. For like a week. And then the bad news is, you know, we were just talking about this yesterday. I don't shower. shower a ton because i i sauna and then i cold plunge and then i get in the hot tub and i'm like what are we doing i'm gonna go get more water on me you know and then i don't smell and i only wash my hair once a week because it's i have such dry hair yeah so because i would only wash it once every probably five or six showers that might be six months worth six months now i'm thinking i I think mine is changed twice a week now that I think of it. Okay. That's nice. And my showers are a little more frequent.
1:51:51Yeah. Than that. I don't know. Yeah. But they're like probably every other day. Sometimes it's every day when I'm. You guys aren't showering every day. No. And you know what's funny? I was thinking about it this morning, weirdly enough. I don't mind when I'm in the shower. But the thought of the shower, I hate. So hard. I'm like, fuck, I have so much to do. I don't want to go get wet and then put on new deodorant and then put my moisturizer on. Everyone feels this way. Everyone. It's a time suck. But do you think everyone feels that way? I know a lot of people that love taking showers and baths.
1:52:27And do it multiple times a day. A couple times a day. Like those people clearly love showers. No, I often shower twice a day and I do not like it. It is a huge pain. You're rushing. You have to get because you go to work and it's a mess. but you do it for the, you're not doing it for the enjoyment of the shower. The bath is different. I like a bath. I did two baths this weekend. There you go. At night. Yeah. As a post, as a relaxation, you put the bubbles and you put the powders in. Oh, candles? And a candle. Yeah. I do a candle and the lights are dim and you listen to music. Saxophone music. Yeah.
1:53:05I love it. But that's not for cleanliness. I shower after that. Okay. I don't think I'm clean. I think I'm even more dirty because I'm in my stew, you know, and sweaty. We can just back up for half a second and start with the fact that humans didn't shower for 300 ,000 years. And then we didn't even have indoor plumbing until the 1900s. So we're talking we're looking at that people have been showering for like 120 years. So this notion that we have to shower every day is comical. We don't have to brush our teeth either. But well, but we've added something that makes that necessary, which is we didn't have refined sugar.
1:53:42So now we have to brush our teeth or our teeth will fall out of our mouth. Well, the people's back in the George Washington days. They were getting dirtier. They lived in a dirtier world than us by far. What? I'm saying they didn't brush their teeth and it was disgusting. Yeah, I'm all about brushing your teeth. I'm just saying the reason we have to brush our teeth is because we now eat sugar. We were designed to not have to brush our teeth and we didn't brush our teeth for 300 ,000 years. but now we eat a ton of sugar. So now we have to, but nothing has changed in our life that would require us to all of a sudden have need showers every single day.
1:54:14Our environment's only gotten cleaner and cleaner and cleaner. We don't interact with dirt. You know, we walk on cement to a indoor house with the carpets that you wipe your feet on. You know, you, we wear shoes and clothes. So it's like we've gotten in an increasingly cleaner world and we've showered more and more and more. So I'm just pointing out that for anyone who's like, Oh, gross, fine. But also, this is insane that we do what we do. It's unnecessary. I've never smelled you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. If I smell even a hint of smell, I'm bolting right to the shower. You know, I don't want to fuck with that.
1:54:49And again, I've told this too. If I didn't have a bidet, I would shower a lot. Well, that's, yeah. But I clean my butthole with water every day. So I don't, again, my butthole is really clean. And then. You're not worried about adding soap. You don't want to add soap to that mix. you know then we'll get into the whole thing about soap no I don't think I need to add soap to the mix to get my butthole clean okay yeah well great yeah finger well sure yeah I mean you use what you got that's what mother nature intended right it used to be in the old days your bath was you jumped in a lake and then you rubbed your butthole with your finger underwater and you rubbed your balls and your penis and that was your fucking that's how you kept yourself clean I'm glad I didn't live then yeah me too I prefer to live now All right.
1:55:34Some facts for Gal. Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot. She said Gadot. I think it's Gadot. And I've been saying Gadot this whole time. Okay. How tall is Emma? You said, we said 5 '10". You're like, I think she might be six feet. She's six feet, one and a half inches. She's almost 6 '2". She was wearing heels and she was, we were looking eye to eye. She is a tall one. She is. Tall gal. Tall gal Gadot. Ding, ding, ding. Is Ambien twice as powerful in women as men? Women process the drug much slower, leading to blood concentration levels that are up to 50 % higher. Female bodies clear Zolpidem, the active ingredient in Ambien, about 35 % to 50 % slower than male bodies.
1:56:23Higher levels of the medication can remain in a woman's bloodstream in the next morning, causing next day drowsiness and higher risk of morning accidents. and trips to 7-Eleven yeah gotta be careful reminder of where Tom Cruise's cake is from Doan's Bakery D-O-A-N in Woodland Hills, California holiday cake speaking of where was that word sounds Persian might be you didn't mention your cake last night it looks so good thank you it was from a few nights ago actually because I was celebrated a few times which was very kind. But yes, there was a cake from this place called Chariot LA. And they, they took my astrology.
1:57:11They took my birthday and my moon and sun and rising. And they created a one of one cake. Mermaid. And it was so good. And it looked like a mermaid cake and it had a lot going on. And at first I truthfully was like, oh, this is probably not going to taste very good. There's so much going on. Yeah. Vanilla Rose Chiffon, a Yuzu curd, fresh plums. Dremboey. Dressing. I was a little worried. Congestif and aperitif. Yeah. But it was so good. It was so good. Shockingly so. And moist. And I'm back to saying that. Moist. I'm done putting that on the shelf. Okay. Yeah. And highly recommend Chariot LA. If you want a yummy cake, and if you, especially if you have someone who likes astrology.
1:58:03You don't get a moist cake to oven. You don't. It's hard to find. They dry up on you. Yeah. They really do. If you want moisture, go with eggplant. It's a mush. It's a wet, wet mush. There's too much. Covered in a skin. Okay. Is the goal, I mean, what is the Golden Gate Bridge in Lisbon called? Um, it's called the 25 day Abril bridge, which is April the 25th bridge. Okay. I just did that. Really nice. Thank you. April teach. I took a lot. I took a lot of Spanish, although this is probably Portuguese, but a striking red suspension bridge across the Tagus river. Tagus. There it is. There she is.
1:58:45Oh, hello. Okay. This does America have a garlic Whopper? No. Nope. While countries like South Korea and international regions have featured dedicated garlic-infused Whoppers, and Israel, obviously, according to Gal, the U.S. menu has only seen garlic flavors appear as temporary or regional items, such as a limited-time garlic aioli pairing or recent-themed items like Grogu's garlic chicken fries rather than a standard garlic Whopper. We can't get that here, sadly. But it's okay because we get the chicken sandwich instead. Mm-hmm. We would get that anyway. Yeah. Okay. What is 80 ,000 shekels in US dollars?
1:59:26$26 ,853. Okay. $26 ,853. Who won Miss Universe the year Gal was in it? Which was 2004. She was right. Miss Australia. Jennifer Hawkins. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sure. How expensive is La Mer lip balm? $85. Yeah. But best$85 she ever spent. It really bought her a whole life, a whole career. Yes. Now. Tens of millions of dollars. She was on the Forbes list several times. Oh, we love that. Yeah. Number three, most highest paid actor. Now, this movie, The Runner, which isn't out yet, which is why Rob couldn't find the song, the Blondie song. Because if you type it in, like, that doesn't come up. But I wonder if I say it, will you know it or no?
2:00:16You'd probably have to do, I'd have to, you won't sing it, so I would have to. Right, because I don't know him. Okay. Say the name. Dreaming? Yeah, see, I don't think I'm going to know the title of this one. Dreaming, dreaming is free. Aaron knows it. Is that the song? That's not the one. Oh. Call Me? Do you want to sing Call Me? Call Me. Boy, I love. Call me, call me. Those are the only two. I'll just quickly tell you the song. Probably a deep cut. No, it's not at all. It's one of their biggest songs. But are they popular? One way or another. Rapture? Yeah. I bet it's Rapture. That sounds right.
2:01:03Oh, maybe. Heart of Glass? Oh, no, this is it right there. That's Heart of Glass. Is it Heart of Glass? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is popular. Yeah, what a great song. to jog to. Oh, yeah. Oh, great song.
2:01:211978, and it still holds up. Oh, man. I'm going to add this to the lights. She's 80, I think. Really? She's still sexy. Yeah, and still performing. Yeah. Who is it? Debbie Harry. Oh. Not falling asleep on stage. I didn't name the person, but I did tell our guest today that you had recently gone to a concert with a legend and that they were asleep a considerable amount of the performance and that you thought maybe they passed. Who was it? It's the scariest concert I've ever been to. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, oh, yikes. How old is the person? I think he's 93. Oh, wow. Well, then that track.
2:02:06So everyone was saying around me. I didn't look it up. Just from the look? It seems that most people knew the answer to that. Yeah. Well, Debbie Harry's original name is Angela Trimble. What the hell? Yeah. Well, I don't like any of the music now. Yeah. Debbie Harry's a better name for Blondie. Okay. Well, let's. That sounds like that's all the facts? Yeah. Got them all. Well, I looked up Krav Maga, but she did a good job explaining it. Okay. So we don't need to do that. All right. Well, well, well. Happy birthday, Laura. I love you guys. I love you. Bye.
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