Mom's Car: Tim Lovestedt

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25:38And so you feel what? The notion that some people hit the jackpot and some didn't feels terrible on my side. Okay. I mean, I'm delighted I hit the jackpot and hit the lottery. But I also just feel like there is just no justice. There are a lot of people that certainly deserve to hit the jackpot, if not the same amount as me, more than me. And I feel bad about that. And I was just curious what the experience from being in it and having some people around you pop in really significant ways. You know, there's a lot of people in our circle that not only got big, but got kind of massive. I mean, Kristen Wiig was in Sunday Company with me.

26:20And when she becomes this thing, it's crazy. All in our tenure, like Ben and Melissa, Ben Falcone and Melissa McCarthy. Even Octavia Spencer, who hung around. There was that one Academy Awards where Ben and Nat were nominated. Or Jim and Nat. I'm sorry, Jim and Nat, Nat Facts, and Jim Rash. There's four of us that are at the Academy Awards nominated. Caitlin Olsen. She's incredibly successful. I just think there's so much in the world that I can't control. There's only so much that I can control. You know, there's a lot of it that's timing and luck. But also what everyone I know is going to become famous.

26:56Like that's not reasonable at all. I get a kick out of people getting a kick out of my friends. And to me, it was always more about, I wouldn't give that time away for anything. And all the other stuff, nobody knows what it was like for all of us to be there late on a Wednesday night with Guy Stevenson putting up another gorilla sketch. Yeah, or a robot. Or like Callie McIntyre on a bike on stage doing a sketch that she had written on a dinner napkin. All of those things, those are mine. Yeah, yeah. And they're way more fun. What I would want to say, but then would stop myself because I would be afraid it would sound patronizing, is, and I've said it without you present a million times, it never got better.

27:38Yeah. That was it. Being in the Sunday company, having like a show to do on Sunday and actual people came and they paid money and they wanted to be there and it was sold out and they loved it. That's about as great as it ever felt. And that theater sold out every night. We never had to say bring friends. My only, because I did two years in the Sunday company, which is kind of unheard of. I just wish I knew at the time that two years, like swallow it up. They always felt like every six months there's this end game. It's hard to enjoy it because you're always a little panicked you're going to get kicked out.

28:14Yeah. And it becomes this competitive thing. You're counting other people's sketches. Yeah. It's a competitive environment. Yeah, yeah. Only so many are going to get in. What a gift, especially at that time. You look at the time we're in now and things have changed so much. But in that time, you could really let loose. You could create to your maximum, sounds weird to say, but potential. No matter how deep you wanted to dig on the weird things you thought were funny, you did have a space to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even more fun was Wednesday. Oh. Because you're putting up sketches that ultimately the director will go, you can't do that.

28:50And that's like what you want to do. You pretty much want to write the sketches that you can't do. Yeah, and also, like, watching your friends try stuff and then also not try stuff where you're like, you're doing another one of those ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's how you feel now. You never went through a depression or a sourness or anything, bitterness. No, this is a funny memory, but we went to the Without a Paddle premiere, which was at, was that at Warner Brothers? Paramount. Paramount. And they had built a lake. Flooded the. Flooded the parking lot or whatever it was. Yeah, they had a tank that they would film like naval scenes in.

29:26Yeah, and you could rent like a canoe or something. Well, just, yeah, people's seats were canoes. Yeah. And I remember being with Caitlin, we were walking to the bar. For us, it was weird. It's like, what is this? And why is Dax in a movie? Like, this is fucking incredible. And why is there a lake? There was a lot. Yes. And somebody walked by me that was on the crew of that movie. And they were talking to someone else and they said, yeah, man, it's crazy. Dax has always been that way. And I was like, first of all, there's no way you've known Dax that long. But then it also set my mind right as to like the trajectory of how these things go.

30:09That success or that experience is becoming its own thing. And it's not for me to covet. it. Like I can't sit and fight against that guy's memory or the way he talks about you. It's like, yeah, he doesn't even know Aaron weekly. How the fuck can he say Dax? He's been like that forever. Right. And he doesn't know 10 Aaron weekly stories. Yes. So that sort of set me up for that famous friends experience. My friends are going to be my friends, not based on the fact that they're famous, but because we are friends. Yes. So that sort of set me up that one guy, That grip on that movie. And then, you know what?

30:44You did a way better job of and that I'm quite envious of. Because like, as we were saying, the poker game. I just started going to that poker game again. I think I've gone twice. And it was like through a series of bumping into Ben enough, I guess, where he invited me. Which is like, I couldn't wait to go. And it was so fun. But you did a much better job. Probably the most profound feeling is like getting kicked out. I felt ashamed of that. I was embarrassed to have been kicked out of the Sunday company. And then in the embarrassment, I was also resentful at whatever group of people I determined were a part of that decision.

31:17I just left with a bad taste in my mouth. You know, I did not leave on great terms. More than half of the people probably have that experience. Yeah, it's got to be right. Because there's so few slots on the main stage. Through numerous reasons, I both got really busy. I got to go do movies all over the place. I was like starting that whole experience. but I didn't do a good job maintaining those Groundlings friendships. And you did. You stayed very dialed into the whole crew. And I'm pretty envious of it, especially like when I went to poker. I was like, oh, yeah, I fucking miss this so much.

31:48This is so fun. You and I stayed friends. I'll add that. Yeah, you and I. But I've always liked being part of a team. I know that sounds really weird. When it all ended, since I was the sort of senior guy, like whenever we would do things, I had to help organize it. I always liked being part of a team. So that part of it, I don't know. I just carried on with it. Right. You know, I wish I could see those people more. But did you go through any, like when you were kicked out, what was your experience with that? Well, I mean, I did two years, so I definitely was not happy about it. But I sort of pivoted because I felt like after the Sunday company, I had developed a skill set that I had never had in my life, which was like a hardworking.

32:29Every Wednesday, I'm going to have my stuff written. Every Sunday, I'm going to perform. I'm going to line everything up. And so I finished college after the Sunday company because I was like, well, I want a degree. So in order to do that, I'm just going to transfer all that hard work and that work ethic. It's just a writing discipline, which is almost impossible to learn. And the competitive part was, OK, if I'm going to be doing this, then I need to do it. So that means investing time in the writing, investing time in the other people, investing time in making the show better. because Sunday, I remember having shows where I was only in one sketch and I was like, that just can't fly.

33:07Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got to figure out how do I get on stage? Then you can get a little Machiavellian. Like, oh, I got to give so-and-so a sketch. Or I just yell more. I remember. I guess I got to be louder next week. Yeah, I remember Josh coming up to me. I think I had four or five sketches. It was really great for me. I did a couple of sketches that I really liked and Josh was like, you're doing like four or five sketches where you yell. Do you think that's too much? And I was like, come on, man. I'm like, I feel so good right now. And you just killed me. Yeah, I'm just. Are you concerned about your voice?

33:39Have you been taking throat coke? You weren't embarrassed when that happened to you. Or were you? No, I was worn out. Okay. You're welcome to the reprieve. Meet at door. Oh. You might get to meet somebody. I like to meet people. Jacob's in for a surprise. Yeah, he is. Oh, this is so close. This was a freebie virtually. Oh, dude, that's a dropie? Yeah. It was a nice little bit of cashier. Nice little bit of shed. Now a guy can make a living of these kind of deliveries. That's right. Yeah. So I guess maybe in summation, minimally, I don't need to carry as much survivor guilt in regard to you. No, no, no.

34:19You don't seem to be mad at me. No. But you've also gotten to witness that now firsthand front row seat to how dynamics change around people who get success. Yes. I don't know. Is it chicken or the egg? Did other people change and then they change or did they change and other people change? Yeah, who changed here? Right. Which one are you? Are you leaving? Let's talk about Max. Jesus. That guy could not care less, Max. No, no one can. Nobody cares. It's been a very humbling. No one likes to make eye contact anyway. Just deliver it. Dope. And then the people that do, they're more confused. Yeah.

34:56That's that dude, but that's obviously not that dude. Why does he have all those cameras? Why does he have that tech rig? Now, as you might expect, when Kristen was with us, that took all the guesswork out of it. Yeah. 100 % of the people that saw her in the backseat were like, why is Kristen Bell in the backseat? Let me ask you, do you resent her for all her success? No, I'm so grateful. Yeah, yeah. Because there was a long period of us together where I don't claim that I was ever more famous than her, but I was definitely more recognizable than her. Kristen, for years, people would see her and I'd see them even whisper to their friends like, that looks like that actress Kristen Bell.

35:31When they'd see me, if they recognized me, they're like, yeah, that's him. He's 6 '9", the huge nose, the whole tattoos. There was a long period where I would get blasted more than she would. And so in general, I'm fucking delighted that there's someone that people are more interested in talking to than me, which is unanimous at this point. If you bump into both of us, unless you're an arm cherry, you want to talk to Chris. I'm like, go get him, girl. I'll be over here checking my phone. I take pictures a ton. I'm delighted about it. I got to experience it. It's waning. I'm less and less famous every day.

36:05The longer I've not been on TV, I can feel it. And it's delightful. Yeah. I almost feel like it's almost too good to trust. Like, wait, you don't get to be and then not get to be, or get the perfect amount you want. You get into a restaurant, but then you're not taking a lot of pictures. I've seen from afar, even from Michigan, it's definitely the other people that have changed. Mm. Mm. Oh, well, the people around you? Yeah. When Dax was first starting out on this journey, and it must be nice to be on that movie. Hollywood! You know, whatever. Must be nice knowing how you're gonna pay your rent.

36:44He's the exact same. We got in the movie. This is what we only could fucking wish for any of us, right? Or this is why we get excited. He did it, because we knew he'd be the one to do it. I always felt like I was the only one that stayed excited. I'm like, you guys suck, dude. And I'll spend my entire life sticking up for it. When I think back at the Crownlings, Caitlin told me one time, she was like, I always knew Dax was going to be famous. And I was like, you did? Right, right. But based on what? His lack of headshots? Lack of representation? No, I mentioned it. Honestly, that guy and the fucking dipshit I hang out with?

37:21The one who's wrestling a pretty big drinking problem? That guy? You mean the guy who's collecting quarters so we can buy a tall boy? Discharging his 12-gauge above the heads of some gangbangers and racing to his apartment? Right. Maybe it was a mistake, but none of that became tangible where it was like, I'm going to do this to get to SNL. Everybody said that. But for me, I was always more present than that. I have in a weird way felt like moving here is a blessing in a sense, because me, Caitlin, we left our family and all of our friends to do this thing. So if we left everyone for nothing, that was going to be a big miscalculation.

38:05And I think for people like Jess lived here, he had his friends from home. He could eat dinner at mom's house. Yeah. And I do wonder if that prevents a little bit of the pressure you would put on yourself otherwise if you moved here. I think there's truth in that. But hence my devastation when that door shut. Like Saturday Night Live is completely off the table. There's no way for me to get there now. That's over. This whole dream that's been going on for 10 years is dumb. To that point, too, I do remember people would from time to time audition for SNL while we were there. Yes. And you would find out they didn't make it.

38:40And I remember thinking like, well, that's just crazy. So that guy can't be on SNL. So it sort of spelled out a little bit of randomness of it, I guess. Well, that's what's funny as you're even saying it. I'm remembering like I did not think I would get to SNL. And yet I also was trying my hardest to get to SM. Right. Well, things were true. I was like devastated I was no longer going to get there, but I never even thought I would get there. I'm learning you're not as neurotic as me. I think that's what I'm learning this whole conversation. Tim's like, psycho. Totally. The thing he made it, he would have killed himself.

39:14Yeah, Jesus. And I actively was. Aaron, you want to take over on that wheel? I've got children. I think people being angry is funny. And I think people getting angry with themselves and embarrassing themselves is funny. It always makes me laugh. Saying things in the worst spot is funny and for good or bad. I was just having this debate with Monica and Alexander Skarsgård. Okay. It's very Swedish. So the whole time I was just like, all I wanted to talk about was like the difference between Swedes and Americans. So fascinating, right? but somehow it came up. I'm like, well, let me get this straight.

39:53When you guys walk into a room and you see a dude in a wheelchair, do you not immediately go like, don't talk about running. Don't talk about jumping. Don't talk about how much fun you had, like on a hike. I just start listing everything we got to avoid saying, but that goes for almost anything that's in a room. It doesn't even have to be as extreme as the wheelchair. And they could not relate to that. And I thought that was like a human thing, but it's not. Do you do that? Of course. Yes, the guy with an eye patch. You're like, don't bring up guns. Don't bring up pirates. Don't bring up Johnny Daffy even might trigger this guy.

40:31All right, you got a question? Yeah, Tim. And I'm wondering, because we don't know each other as well as we should. That well, we don't know each other that well. No, of course. As well as we should. Just from today. I don't think you're as petty. Yeah, yeah. I know, I'm feeling kind of bad about myself. In a great way. Anyway, I wrote this down beforehand. man, do you ever brag about things that you were good at, but it's a flat out lie and that no one knows? Oh, like something that I'm not good at, but I would tell a story about how good I am at it. Well, we'll go first so that you know the bar.

41:06OK. I don't even know how we ended up admitting this to each other. But like I somehow admitted to him that at some point I told Guy from Groundlings, it was bigger than me and stronger. Yes. and I was trying to demonstrate my bona fides. Yeah, yeah. And somehow he's, I said, I lived in Detroit. He said, oh my God, did you ever go to the Kronk Gym? And I go, oh yeah, all the time. I trained there. And I'm locked into this lie with guy now going on 21 years. I still text him all the time. He probably still thinks I trained at the Kronk Gym. With Tommy Hearns? With the Hitman Hearns. Of course. And I happened to just randomly say that to Aaron and then he hit me with this.

41:46Yeah, so I told him that I have been telling people I was a Marine.

41:58Oh, no. Which came with a lot of stories. Once you commit, you can't fucking, people want to know because that's a good story. Did you ever learn people more than you were gone to? Of course I was overseas. And Dax can't just quit with you trained at the most fucking famous gym in Detroit. Like, there's more that comes along. So you keep digging. And then I hope it doesn't get to where someone knows me good enough that knows that. So I have to keep it only between a certain group of people. Do me a favor. Don't tell my mom that I was a Marine. When he was a Marine, he boxed in the Marines. Oh, yeah, I boxed in the Marines.

42:42Oh, my God, I'm sorry. That was the connection. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I boxed in the Marines. Oh, my God. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yes. You know what's funny is that, A, it makes me so happy when you told me that story. And then also, like, my guilt and shame over having lied about that is 11. And when I heard that you said it, I'm like, oh, this is adorable. This is like a boy trying to be a big man as a Marine. And his dad was a Marine. It's so obvious what's going on. I just told my dad's story. Maybe your dad wasn't a Marine. Right? He lied. It's so funny because it's semi-small, but really big for you.

43:24Do you know what I mean? It's not like I... And it becomes almost untenable. When a guy would bring it up, I'm like, oh, I'm panicked. I can't remember what... Did I tell him I met Emmanuel Lewis or Stuart or whatever the trainer was? I said I had lunch. That's one of the most interesting things about you. It really is. Have you had Tommy Hearns on the podcast? Especially for Guy. That was why. You know, one thing I have lied about. Oh, God. I loved when I skateboarded as a kid. It was a big deal. But I didn't skateboard for that long.

44:02And my two best buddies, who I've known both since kindergarten, skated much longer than I did. Sure. And their stories, I mean, we have a famous story of Aaron got caught stealing wood from a construction site to make a ramp. And it was like at two in the morning, Aaron got caught by the cops and walked down the alley that everybody had hid and was like, all right, guys, come out. They know our names. They know where we live. He rolled. And I always tell that story in the first person. Sure. I was not there. And half of the stories that any of those guys tell about skateboarding, I have adopted.

44:47Because I love skateboard culture. I love skateboarding. I got a job and I stopped skating. I've had this moment within the last year where it's like I'm meeting someone new. This is when I would lay out this lie. And I go, when are we going to stop telling people this lie? When I met people out here and I wanted to drive fast, I'd just be like, oh, I raced for years in Detroit. Like, just lie. So that you would trust me to drive like an asshole. Yeah, when you get far from home, you got to keep them going. Especially how you come out here and it's like, you just write your own story. That was a fucking black belt in Taekwondo in Detroit.

45:26I worked for the Edison. I invented the assembly line. A strong telephone wire. I was an electrician. Yeah, it's like mundane. Someone was asking me like where I boxed. Oh, no. It never occurred to me like where I would be boxing, right? You didn't tell out that part of your story. Yeah. I said I boxed on a ship. Oh, my God.

45:59Jesus. That's so sad.

46:05They're like, so you're on like a Navy ship? I'm like, yeah, exactly. The Marines, the Navy. You name it. I was boxing gloves. I was boxing. We're all together. On a balance beam. I boxed a guy on an I-beam while building a skyscraper. Aaron comes by this natural. I don't know if I have such an excuse, but the best part was his dad told us a story when we were working for him. His dad owned a roofing company and we roofed for him. He has his uncle, Tom. It was incredible. This is exactly what he sounds like. Matt, what are you motherfuckers doing? Tim, it's that extreme. You're like, is he Cajun?

46:46Is he black? Is he in his long, long gray hair? Looks like a biker. So his dad was telling us that one time, they were both in Vietnam and his uncle was a medic. His uncle tells this elaborate story about jumping out of a helicopter and he's got his sidearm and he's got to start using his sidearm. And then this happens and that happens. When I was hearing the story, I was like, I don't think they give the medics that. Smelling some bullshit. He said he was shooting these motherfuckers with his, you know, machine gun and shit. Machine gun. So Aaron's dad hears this story. It doesn't sit right. He said, I kill women and children.

47:22Which, by the way, I'm telling you, it's a smart tactic when you're a liar. You got to add some stuff that's unflattering to yourself to build credibility. I'll be like, well, you wouldn't be saying that, right? I killed a woman. Oh, my God. I know her children. So Aaron's dad is at home a couple years after he heard this story from Tom. And he's fucking watching a rerun of MASH. And it's verbatim. Every single detail he had told his dad was from an episode of MASH. but to your thing with stealing stories this is the god's truth because we've been together so much since we were 11 sincerely sometimes i don't know if it's his my story or my story but we were both there we weren't so it's like car shows we were mostly on all the car shows together but sometimes we weren't and it's just straight confusing without even trying to lie well timmy lovestead i love you to pieces oh i love you guys thanks for having us well we're like 30 years into friendship it is really crazy we're still alive still alive we're gonna beat our fathers I know.

48:29You're in the club. How old was your dad? I beat my dad. My dad was 42. Oh, yeah. That's the new winner. You just took the lead. What's your dad, 54? 54, yeah. That's how old he was when he died. Yeah. Those are insane numbers. My dad was 42. He was retired. He was retired with 42. I don't know what's crazy. Is that he died or he was retired? Or that he died 10 years into his retirement. All right. Love you. Yeah, baby. Thanks, guys. Thank you.