Rose Byrne

20:58I didn't really do sports. That was my thing. So does that movie though, City of Ghosts, had you A, always been like, well, we got to get there ultimately or the opportunity presented itself and then you followed it? It was the goal. As you said, the content capital of the world. As I said that, I realized maybe Bollywood. Oh, that's the content. I traveled through India and I went to a Bollywood film and it was incredible. It was one line for men to see the movie, one line for women lining up and then one line for tourists. Wow. And it was packed. I think we were in Jaipur. I will never forget it.

21:35I was like, if this many people could see an Australian film, we would have the richest. There is a great history of rich cinema in Australia, but this was unbelievable. Yeah. It was three hours long. There was a half an hour break in the middle. Yeah. When you need one. Everybody's talking the whole time. Oh, the whole movie. Everybody's talking. It's all in Hindi. I don't know what's happening. The people next to me are so nice. They're explaining it to me. I'm like, what are you talking about? It was the most joyous communal. I'll never forget it. Anyway, we should acknowledge the content coming out of Bollywood.

22:03That's fair. Yeah, I tip my hat to them. Had you traveled here ever as a kid? I'd been to New York at 18 with my family. We took a trip. I had never been to LA. And then I did a film with Heath Ledger when we were 18. We were just kids. Did you just fall in love with him? He was such a charmer. Did you ever spend time with him? Yeah, I did. He was a generous guy and such a talent and could have gone so many ways. We were close when we were 18, 19. We did a film together and it went to Sundance. He was such a great example of an artist that he was always getting off at these TV shows when we were starting out.

22:33And he was really like, I don't want to do that. Oh, wow. I don't want to just be a heartthrob. They gave to him on a silver platter after that night movie. They're like, hey, do you want to be sexy and make 10 million a movie? At that age? It's really hard. I didn't have that confidence to be like, okay, I'll just not do TV. I'd do anything. At 20? But I really wanted to work internationally and wanted to have those ambitions, but by no means knew how. Really, it's true, Heath. I came over here, I stayed with him a bunch of times, and he was so sweet. He would get me into audition for his things.

23:01I got an agent. That was exciting. and I started auditioning and spending time in LA. And then I went back to Australia and worked more there. And then I never heard from the agent again. Oh, really? Oh boy. But I still see her. Around. Oh, that's so weird. I was tiptoeing around this the other day in a fact check. We went to the night before party, which we haven't been to in, I don't know, 15 years. The Emmys party? Yeah, the night before the Emmys party. I think they do them too for the Oscars. They still do it. Yes. And the second we walked in, I'm like, oh, I remember this. You bump into endless representatives that you no longer work with.

23:32That is very, very awkward. and this is the party. So fun. What a fun party. What a great party. And then you see a lot of people you're friends with. Get me the fuck out of here. You see people that you're friends with but you can't talk to each other because too many people are right and you're like, yeah, this is a disaster. That was definitely part of my journey. And then I worked more back at home and then I got a part in a movie called Wicker Park and that was this film with Diane Kruger and Josh Hartnett. Yes. And Matthew Lillard. Yeah. Who I love. I've said everybody's names. Good job.

23:59Did you love Lillard? Such a sweetheart. Isn't he the funnest person? He had a tiny baby then who's probably now a 27-year-old young woman, I'm sure. Other than the film with Matt, that was my first American job. I said it, guys. I got it right. I said it. And you went straight to New York. No, then after that, I lived in London. I didn't want to live in LA. I liked London better. My sister was living there. We bought a house and lived in London. So I was there for two years. I love that. I don't know if you've spent time there. Yeah, we love it. I love it. Then I booked damages and that's when I moved to New York.

24:30We were enormous. Were you really? Enormous. I'm going to tell you the degree to which we were fans of damages. Please share with me. Are you going to say the thing? Because it's still a thing. Yeah, I'm going to say it. Oh, boy. So Kristen does a movie with Ted Danson. Neither of us know him yet. It's up in Alaska. So we go up to Alaska, a lot of dinners together. And we're sitting with Ted at dinner. We say, we are bonkers for damages. And he's like, really? And I said, oh, my God. Do you know what we are at this hotel? as, which we had been for a couple of years at that point, we check in everywhere is Holly and Arthur Frobisher.

25:08Wow, that is a fan. That is a fan. We took on, we made that our identity. Oh my God. That was your pseudonym. Yes. I'm so flattered. I'm so flattered. We came out the same year as Mad Men. It was that chapter of prestige. I mean, the Sopranos had set the bar. Yeah, but it'd been a long time. At that time, we thought only HBO could do that. You and Mad Men where the two were like, oh shit, Cable's gonna do this. And then Breaking Bad was soon after that. And then now we're obviously... It's all we have. Years later, it's like, that's where you see drama. Yeah. It's really on TV. Let's be honest.

25:41It's gotten way better than movies. It's hard not to disagree with that. I can move like three good movies a year and I can name like 600 episodes of TV that were brilliant. That's a good way to put it. Were you hesitant to sign up for a TV show because you had your foot so firmly in the door in the feature world? The material was so good. Working with Glenn was like a masterclass. But signing that contract... Seven years. They have you for seven years. That was a conversation I had with myself. But it's funny when you look back, right? And it was just like, wow, look how far it's been since that show.

26:08And I feel very proud of the show. And I'm so glad you saw it. That's so cute. And I used it as your suit and image. We had the most incredible support. Ted is so brilliant. He's so against type. Yes, yes, yes. As Frobisher. Yes. He's this sleazy, maniacal fire. How fun for us to see him. And like so funny. Anyway, they were brilliant with their casting. We had William Hurt, Masha Gay Harden. We had some incredible people. Are you a people pleaser? I feel like you are a people pleaser. Of course I am. I'm a people. I'm Australian. Yeah, are Australians. I love the colonies, guys. Oh, you're a tall poppy situation.

26:41Don't brag. Keep your boots on. But you're allowed to be a tall poppy. Unfortunately, you're a tall poppy. You have to take that back immediately. Immediately. Oh, we canceled. Please don't make that back. Please, please take that back. I need you to lean in to your poppy. Please take that back. I'm going to come out with it right now. It's going to wait. but here we go gosh yeah this is it it's making me so nervous good lord we are tall poppies it's too exhausting to not be i love it it's just fucking keep too much to yourself that's exhausting yeah that's true that's why i'm tired guys i'm having a podcast tour i'm very tired and rose for whose sake it's on my cellular level of keeping yours is at least cultural I'm leaning on that.

27:25But no, I interrupted you. What were you going to say? What I was going to say, this will be hard for you to hear, but I have said it on here many times. I really would put you and Walton Goggins in the exact same category, which is... I don't think I've seen two people that can be that good at drama and that good at comedy at the level you both are. It's astounding. I already loved you from Damages. But then when I saw... It had to be probably Neighbors. No, Bridesmaids. Well, I saw her in Bridesmaids. She was great. Melissa had this stuff. I'm very much the straight man. She's the straight person.

27:59Neighbors, you had a loose rhythm and confidence that I just hadn't seen yet. And I was like, get the fuck out. She can do comedy like this. And then I thought that a dozen more times since then. It's so impressive. Thank you. I hold you and my wife. My wife can do it all. Well, I was going to say I would put your wife in that category. I would too. And she's also incredibly disarming. I've only met her once, but she's so funny and immediately put me at ease. In a way that we're really not doing. She was so, so funny. Yes, she is. She's incredibly funny. Funny people aren't necessarily funny actors.

28:36Funny actors aren't necessarily funny people. And usually comedians are actually very serious. Yes. Which I've learned over the years. You never know, is my point. That's such a sweet thing to say. I'm very flattered. Everyone we've had on who's worked with you, which is a lot of people at this point, you always come up and it's always an absolute love fest about you. It is. Everyone loves working with you. Can we jump to Neighbors? Because A, how aware of it are you? You have to be. And then B, how do you explain it? And then C, how quickly did you notice it? You and Seth have this crazy symbiotic rhythm.

29:07It's so fun. How quickly into like meeting him and starting to work with him did you go? There's some magic floating around. Chemistry is so weird. How do you know? How do you describe it? I mean, obviously we're so different. But we sort of work the same way in that we're really into the work, kind of private people. He's an open book in many ways. He is and he isn't. And I told him. I think it's a little bit of a trick. He's a trick. I've told him, I'm like, you're someone who I think I could get close to, but I know I can't get close to you. And I don't know what to do with that because I'm the opposite.

29:33It's making Dax's brain. And there's something, I think that there's a similarity about that with us and we see it in each other. And I feel very relaxed with him, particularly when we're working. We just have such an ease. and he's a gentle guy. And that's where I find our place, I guess. I don't know. It's a very funny thing because on paper you'd be like, how did this? And this is so corny. And I say it all the time, but he's Canadian. And there's something about that too, that I think we have some sort of similarity in the Commonwealth. It's just a little bit different, but I feel really grateful to have that relationship with him when you get to work with someone again and again and again.

30:07It's a lovely, creative conversation. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert. if you dare. This message is brought to you by Apple Pay. Dax, can you believe it's already fall? This year's flown by. I know, right? But fall is my jam. Remember that farmer's market we hit up last weekend? Yes. All those vendors with their yummy apple ciders and the big pumpkins. I love big pumpkins. Artisanal apple cider, don't forget. And the smell of fresh baked goods, heaven. But here's what blew my mind. So many vendors accepted Apple Pay. It was so convenient. I love Apple Pay. Everywhere I saw the contactless symbol, I just double click the side button on my phone to bring up my card and then just a quick little face ID scan.

30:54Tap. Boom. So easy. Apple Pay has been my MVP this season to buy festive fall treats and drinks. And, you know, I'm on a mission to find the best fall themed latte in town. You know this. I do know that. How's it going? That maple one you were telling me about sounded pretty insane. It was so good. And get this. You can also use Apple Pay at lots of cafes. No fumbling for your wallet. Just double click, tap and sip. It works at millions of places anywhere you see the contactless symbol in stores or see the Apple Pay button online and in apps. Exactly. Making it easier to enjoy all the fall goodness.

31:29Speaking of which, I'm totally set for Halloween. Apple Pay made it a breeze to purchase the perfect decorations online right from my iPhone. I just tap the Apple Pay button at checkout, double click to authenticate, and boom, payment complete. No long checkout forms, no fuss. Fall festivities have never been more fun or easy. Pay the Apple way. Terms apply.

31:55When you get that, neither party has the leverage to continue that just because they enjoyed it or they would choose to. My friend Joy Bryant and I have that. Oh, I love Joy. How is she? She's so good. Please give her my love. She's so fucking good. She's such a gorgeous, lovely lady. Yeah, and we had six years together. We're just the comfort level is just so off the charts. We're a brother and sister in such a wonderful way. But like, I can't choose to go do five more things with Joy, nor can she choose to go do five more things with me. So there's gift upon gift. And that is like a privilege that Seth and I, and that's due to Nick Stoller.

32:26Yeah, we love Nick Stoller. We love. This opportunity for these projects that have happened for us is so much because of Nick. And now he's wife Francesca with Platonic creating this show. And that was my idea to approach Seth. And I was like, I'm not sure if he wants to do this. I don't know. This is a show. It's a big thing. You want to sign on and he's an easy guy. Seven, you're contract. No, not anymore. Not anymore. But he did. I'm like, thanks, buddy. Now, how much of y 'all's rapport on screen is scripted and how much is improv? Like what percentage is playful off the cuff stuff? Seth's really loose.

32:59There is a script absolutely. And there's obviously points you have to hit and stuff. It's hard to explain as an actor, right? It's a very different job when you're doing an improv job than really specifically scripted role. And it's not something everyone's done. And it's something I've really learned baptism by fire when I did get him to the Greek. It was very much like, oh, okay. Try to catch up. And I didn't go to Groundlings. I didn't go to UCB. I didn't do any of that stuff. So it's not a trained thing that I have. So figuring that out was definitely learning a different muscle. And it always takes me a minute to find it again.

33:28And I don't know if I'm particularly good at it, but I will try. I mean, it's so ephemeral, that talent. It can be really bad. It can be so bad. It can be the worst thing there. What I was going to add is I think there's a ton of misconception within improv, which is I think actors who don't understand it and have had not any training, they think improv is non sequiturs or they think improv is just, I say something different. But the art of it is, of course, moving the story to the same place the script had moved it to. It's got to be original and off the cuff, but you still have to be very much on story.

33:59And I think that's the next layer of the talent. So my hunch is you actually probably backed into it, which is you probably have great understanding of the story and point of the scene. And then the new unwritten stuff came after that. I definitely always come from a perspective of like, who's the person? The traditional, like, you know, parameters of an actress or actor. The stakes have to be high. It's not saying fart. That's why you're better off because you care about acting than you're improvising in character. A lot of comedians just want to be funny. Yeah, they want to say something outrageous.

34:32Yeah, and get a laugh on set. And it's like, that isn't helpful. But isn't it wonderful? I so enjoy when you see a comedian doing something dramatic. What's your example you're thinking of? So Bobby's Good Friends with Bilbo. And Bill was on Broadway recently. Blangary, Glangary. Did you see it? No. They have great comedy in the play. But it's a David Mamet play. Yeah. Serious fucking writer. And he just killed it. Wow, that's awesome. I would have liked to have seen that. It's harder to get a deeply, deeply dramatic actor who we all revere to then do a wildly comedic performance. I'm going to say it.

35:04Comedy is way harder. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. No, no, no, I agree. Why do you think it's harder? There's no help. There is tons of help available if you're doing drama. If I just sit dead still and I give you absolutely nothing and you push the camera in on me slowly and you score it perfectly, you will fill in all the blanks of what I'm doing. The lighting is at your disposal. The music's at your disposal. The person who's acting off screen who you're benefiting from, you fill in so much blanks with drama. Comedy is math that you get the equation right or you don't. There's no cheating it.

35:33And when you see people try to cheat it by scoring goofy music under it, it's dreadful. It's like offensive, right? If you try to use the tools that are available to drama in comedy, it's dreadful. So it is just technically much harder to land. I love that. So you should be prouder of your comedic chops is what I'm wondering. Well, you'd be proud of everything. You'd be a top poppy. I don't think you can be proud of anything. It's apologically problematic. I feel like comedy is so subjective. Yeah, it is. We can all agree on what is sad. Well, that is true. We can kind of pretty much agree. That's a great point.

36:03But can we all agree on what is funny? No. Also, timing is kind of like what we were talking about singing earlier. It is a gift. It can be taught to an extent in the way singing can be taught to an extent. You can't teach it because I feel like timing is about unpredictability. So you can't teach that. Yeah, that's just a rhythm that exists in your head or not. I know. And it's wild. when I've worked with a Kristen Wiig or a Maya Rudolph or a Melissa, who's like the Michael Jordans of these performances. And it's effortless. Yeah. I don't even know if they know it's effortless. Yeah. Then we get into the really interesting psychology that's quite pervasive among comedians that do end up successful.

36:40It's easy. And there's a guilt and shame about the fact that it's easy. But of course it's easy because you've been practicing since you were a little kid how to do this thing. And then this guilt. Now I can do Shakespeare. There's a whole racket, I think, that goes along with success as a comedian. And then I wonder if there's a lack of respect for how hard it is. Polar just blasted off recently about this and I appreciate it. She's like, fuck reviewers. Fuck all reviewers who refuse to give any credit to comedy. Fuck the Academy Awards. And then so true. She did. That's so punk. I love that.

37:07And it's so true. It's like, how dare you? Why is it considered less than? Yeah. And then also, who gives a shit if anything's acknowledged? I know. I just want to talk about 2011. And especially now that I have a sense of your anxiety. what are you talking about what are you talking about I want to talk about 2011 by the way all I'm looking at is the Olsen twins up there behind you aren't they calming they're very cool I feel so cozy in their huge coats and their cool hairdo oh they probably cause anxiety because they're so cool that's a photoshopped photo just so you know yeah obviously I'm not with them oh really I had a hunch you thought they were oh I thought that was real I wish wow sorry I digress go back It's a manifestation.

37:52I'm sorry. Okay, good. You're doing quite well up to 2011. No complaints. It's going very, very well. But in 2011, you make a million-dollar movie that makes$97 million, Insidious. Oh, yes. You just minimally have to go like, fuck, that was lucky. We made a million-dollar movie that made$100 million? James Wan directing it, who has gone on to huge movies, different genres. That was shot in 22 days for$8.50. That's bonkers. 2011, you're in Bridesmaids. It becomes the biggest grossing R-rated comedy ever. Impossible. This is the same year. This thing makes$288 million. That's wild. I forgot it was in the same time period.

38:362011, X-Men First Class. $350 million movie. Oh, boy. How are you computing? Like, we've been trotting along. It's been improving a little bit. And now all of a sudden, this one year, everything I've touched has just been something you could write a story about. How were you computing that? Did you get superstitious about it? I definitely have superstition. And I think I still do talking about it. You're afraid to even. You know what I mean? I do. I have an innate. I have superstition around the process. And with this business, you have a moment. The moment will go away. But that was a chapter.

39:07And hearing about it, it's like a core memory of, wow, that was an extraordinary chapter. And you don't know. I have no control about how it will be received or how it will go. particularly something like Bridesmaids, shooting it and thinking, fingers crossed. This is crazy. You know, we didn't know. We were like, this is unusual because I'm with so many actresses. This is so funny and I love these women. And I was so naive. I had no idea that that's all I would be talking about too. Was like, oh, women are funny. I was like, what? I have to talk about that? Yes. What do you mean? It opened up so many weird conversations.

39:36It was so weird. It was like we were a group of dolphins. I was like, what's happening? I don't know. I grew up watching Julia Louis-Dreyfus and I didn't know any different. I think if you were on the, my bad, No, please. I squirted too much nicotine in my throat. Have some matcha. Wow, so you'd squirt the nicotine. I'd do both. Yeah, he has mints, mints, and spray. A lot of delivery systems. Thank God. I just died right there. Thank God. I think on the outside, people would assume, I'm going to take another drink of water. Take your time. Yeah, no, please take a moment. Take a moment. No, we lose the room at 3.15.

40:04Oh, God. So there's another podcast starts. Not ours, but someone else's. No, just kidding. Just kidding. Don't scare us. There's a lot of anxiety. She's scarable. I'm also gullible. I fully thought the whole, I was like having a whole scenario with you guys at like a fashion dinner or like the bungalows or something. Imagining her exotic life. Did you do that or did somebody do that for you? Rob did it for me because for Christmas he got me that sweater, but it didn't arrive. So he gave this to me as like a placeholder. And then this is actually the better present. Is this a sweater from The Row?

40:35It is. I know. Yeah, you know. Did you think I was really cool? You're like, oh my God, she's cool. She hangs out with the Olsons. What else could you think? It's like elevated Luke's like, what are you talking about? Wow. Look at that. I know. That's out of my league. What else could one conclude? I know. I know. It's the only thing on the table. Isn't that what I'm supposed to conclude? It feels like a lie. My integrity was like, I must correct this. I think she has just gone on a journey. That's not very nice to me. I want to gain some cool points, whether I earn them or not. Well, no, I think you want to earn them.

41:07I know you. Fine, I do. You want to earn them. I do. I think from the outside, their guess would be, hey, if I had a year where all these movies hit, I'd be dancing around my apartment. And my hunch is that that wasn't how you processed the whole thing. Or were you dancing around your apartment? That's a really good question. You know what? I didn't think I was, but as I get older, I'm like, you should dance around apartment. You should dance around the fucking apartment because what are we here for? Like celebrate, enjoy. And it's not going to get taken from you because you enjoyed it. Exactly.

41:37And even if it does still enjoy it, you know what I mean? What's the point in not enjoying it. And I did have fun. It's such a fun ride with Bridesmaids. That was obviously so beloved, but I need to dance around the apartment more. We all do. But you feel like you can always lose it. That's the logical error. You can't lose it. It happened. It happened. But you can kind of lose it. Depends on how you define it, I guess. And how do you define it? I'm going to ask a nosy question that you're going to fucking hate. Monica, help me. You've done four of these insidious movies. Good Lord. The first one was made for a million bucks, made 97.

42:09The second one was made for five million dollars, made$166 million. The third one was made for 10 and made$167. The last one, almost$200 million. Wow, that's amazing. Please tell me you've got a juicy piece of this pie. You just get like, those movies come in and you're like, oh, we're getting a new apartment. It would be a financial question. Oh my God, this is not what I expected. How uncomfortable are you? Oh my God, I'm so deeply uncomfortable. And offended? I'm so deeply uncomfortable. Please don't be offended. I mean, obviously we know you probably don't want to talk about money, but how do you feel about money?

42:43Can you tell? I would love to. Let's talk about money. You couldn't even say money. Let's talk about money. The M word? Do you? How should I say it? Does financial safety matter to you? Of course. Once you have a family. Are you kidding? Like we're talking about the theater, right? And you had a modest household. Mom was an administrator at school and dad was. A bunch of kids. I got a job really early. I worked at an Indian restaurant. Nice. Currie World. No, we appreciate it. Darling Street in Balmain. And then I worked at Baker's Delight. I loved it. I loved earning money. I loved going to work.

43:15I loved the performative nature of being at a restaurant. And they say what I've read about, particularly raising boys, is it's good for them to have a job as a teenager is a really important thing. I had so many. Go see the principal, get a work permit so I could work at the restaurant at 12. Oh, the whole thing, yeah. To tassel corn and agriculture at 14. I loved my jobs. What she could be asking, and you could make a relative, which is financial insecurity is, I think, top fear for me. Where it's a sickness. Absolutely a real thing. People have it of varying degrees. It can tip into it being all-consuming.

43:45And I guess I wonder on the scale, like, where you sort of land. I think I have a healthy, like, we do not live a lavish life. I am not a wildly lavish person, but what memories do you want for your kids? The core things that I grew up, what I remember is a great holiday at a tiny beach house. Those things are the things that I feel are the most valuable. And you and Bobby are aligned? We are. Oh, that's good. I think you have to be. Well, to a degree, I mean, you have to figure it out. What kind of life are we raising for these kids? What are the values? Do you have the same thing that Dax is chatting about?

44:12No. I mean, yes and no. I think yours is realistic. Well, you know. And mine is unrealistic. It all changes as you get more. That's the truth. I am so financially safe. But the more you have, the more you get, and then the more you need. It shouldn't be that way. You should be able to remove yourself and be like, I don't need anything. I'm good. Didn't like Warren Buffett have one house? Yes, exactly. The same old house he bought in 1974 in Omaha. What's the psychology behind that? Well, what I like about it for him was it does demonstrate that you would think he was in all that for the money and he wasn't.

44:45He was in it for the game and I can research further and I can see value where other people can't. And that that was really what drove him. And that's kind of admirable. And being better at it than other people. He actually didn't want any of the shit. That's wild, isn't it? And then what does he do with? He's giving it all away. He pledged it to the Gates Foundation. Although I do think he took some of it back, but that's a side note. Yeah, I think he said like, my kids will get some, they're not getting that much. The rest goes away to people. See, I mean, that amount of wealth to me is a nightmare.

45:13Terrible for families. It's a lot. It breaks people up. It's like succession. I'll argue it is correlation and not causation. So I think what you're seeing a lot with these very wealthy families is they were not present parents at all. They had nannies raising their children and they worked endlessly to accumulate that. That was their main obsession. I'm not certain that the wealth is what caused it. Again, it's very correlated, but what I see in a lot of these families that end up with a lot of wealth is much bigger, deeper problems going on in the parenting. But then there's like infighting between siblings that can happen when there's money that's going to get divvied out.

45:51It can be crazy. We had a huge lottery here, a billion dollar lottery a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if you remember that. In LA? about that. It was nationally. It was the mega because the Texan won it. Some states, I don't think all states were a part of it. And I was talking to my parents about this. My dad was like, I would never want to win a billion dollars. He said, that sounds miserable. Everyone is going to want something from you. Everyone's going to know it's you. And I was like, oh my God. Wow. Did you say, what if you're completely anonymous? I did. I said, you don't have to. He's like, they'll find out and then they'll want something from you.

46:24That is true. I think that's a tell of that you cannot escape your childhood. So I bet where he grew up in Kerala, if you were the town billionaire, whatever the equivalent of that was, I bet he witnessed that that's actually dangerous. Yeah, that's true. I mean, everyone would agree, right? The more money you amass, the more problems. Some people say it. It's not not true. It's not not true. Because the more things you get, the more things you got to manage. And there's expectation. If you aren't giving it, then you're selfish. There is a lot that comes with it. I'm from watching a great documentary about happiness once and they were saying a certain amount of money can really help and then a certain amount can change so much the quality of your life and your mental health and your physical all those sorts of things but beyond that yeah it doesn't change for a while and then it diminishes yes and that was fascinating because it's not what we're sold and the discrepancy of wealth is just horrific around the world obviously which is a whole other conversation but that is pretty unsettling and awful and it's just getting worse okay we're about to talk about your movie, but I compiled this list and it took me a long time.

47:28So I am going to make you listen to it. Did you see the movie? Yeah, I watched it last night. You did? I did. Oh my God. Did you get it? What do you mean get it? Like, did you feel like I can't wait to talk about it? Okay. Yeah. Right. But not before you hear this list. Oh God. I sincerely don't know that anyone has this list. This is a list of your co-stars. Oh, cool. Fun game. Heath Ledger, Natalie Portman, Matt Dillon, Dennis Hopper, Brad Pitt, Nick Cage, Peter O'Toole, Snoop Dogg, Killian Murphy, Glenn Close, Kristen Wiig, Melissa McCarthy, James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Kevin Bacon, Ryan Gosling, Bradley Cooper, Vince Vaughn, Owen Wilson, Seth Rogen, Zac Efron, Susan Sarandon, Jude Law, Adam Driver, Jane Fonda, Jason Bateman, Tina Fey, Ethan Hawke.

48:17That's a bonker. Do you ever go like, I can't believe how many of these people I got to work with. That is a bonkers list. Can I take it with me? Yes, it's insane. And I've never had someone say it out loud and write it down. And I left people out. Oh, no. I mean, Snoop, that's a cool one. You know, I've also worked with Snoop. What did you do with Snoop? I did a... Dunkin' Donuts? No, it was a Burger King commercial. Even better. Fabulous. Isn't he lovely? He is very, very nice. He was so laid back, so fun. He was great. When you smoke a quarter pound of weed a day, you can be pretty chill, turns out.

48:49It's a benefit. The trailer was just like a cloud. around it. It was pretty funny. Yeah, like I bet it would be hard for you to look back. I think if I just list the movies you were in, you're like, oh yeah, but I do them. But you must be able to listen to that list and go like, my lord, what an incredible ride I got to have. I do. When you hear it out loud like that, it is wild. And then to remember too, like, oh yes, I got to do that. You know all these people. Yeah, and like I had that great scene and we had a wonderful conversation. I mean, you could have forgotten some of these. There's so many.

49:18You could have like forgot you were with Brad Pitt. that's probably a pretty memorable one no that's a crazy unpredictable list of people i only put two of them in bold actually i put three but we already talked about which are the ones in bold nick cage is like my great obsession in life oh really has he been on the show no i've written so many letters i'm just so obsessed with him yeah can you tell me what the experience was like he's a true eccentric we went to an animal farm and got to hold an eagle and he was working out at midnight in his trailer, you know, like all the incredible things.

49:50We were doing a press conference for the movie, like a pretty rote, typical, boring thing. And he leaned over to me and said, I'm going to try to do this whole thing without saying I or me. Oh, that's cool. There we go. That's great. He's a living art installation. And he did. He was like, when one believes that one is. Oh, that's great. He's having the last laugh. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I hope he comes on. Yeah, me too. Me too. The only other name I put in bold is Ethan Hawke. And for the reason that I admire him in such a specific way. A, he's incredible. We've had him on. He's such a philosopher. He's just such a storyteller.

50:33He's very close with Bobby. Oh, he is? Yeah, really close. And again, Ethan could have gone so many ways. He was a pinup out of dead poets. And he could have gone so many ways. And he's a true artist. That takes such drive and such belief, similar to Heath, like, I'm not going to sign the seven year. He's done theatre. He loves theatre. He's church like Bobby. Like he's that guy. And I was so lucky to work with him. And what's acting with him? Like, did you get that feeling where like, oh, I'm so planted? So funny. The dynamic in that film was very specific, but he's a true collaborator. So it was like endless creative conversation about this.

51:12And he's an open book. He's really candid. He lives for the art and he's inspiring. It's easy to get cynical and it's easy to get lazy. And he's just so the opposite of all of that stuff. He's just on fire. And I've seen him at these festivals. You know, he has Blue Moon coming out, which Bobby's in as well. Rick Linclair is one of his latest films and incredible storied history together, the two of them. And so every time I see Ethan, I'm just like, I'm home. Oh, that's beautiful. Okay. If I had legs, I would kick you. That comes out October 10th. I watched it a couple of nights ago. and it's grueling.

51:47It's hard. It asks a lot. It's pretty radical. Yeah, and I admire you and I'm curious how you decide to leave the fun world and throw yourself so deeply into that. And I'm really curious about, you asked Dax, did you get it? I'm waiting to hear his take. He said grueling so far. I wonder if I got it. Whatever you had is right. Whatever speaks to you or doesn't speak to you. I reject that in this case. This is a writer-director. she has obviously a real, I don't know if it's her experience, but she has an experience to display or let you inside of or some feeling mentally that you're going to experience.

52:27So I do think it's actually quite specific as opposed to a lot of movies. Yeah, where I could say like what was in the box in Pulp Fiction? I don't know. Is it the fucking Ten Commandments or not? That's up for me to decide. But this is like, well, let's set it up as much as we can. It's probably a hard one for you to promote. Well, it's funny because it's not set up for the audience. you are dropped into a crisis, a madness, and the tension does not stop. It is a relentless experience. And it's purely from the perspective of this woman. You're almost the only person we see in the movie. Yes. And it is a fever dream.

52:58You're not sure what's real. It sort of defies genre. There is some horror. I laughed. I think it's funny. There is some gallows humor. There is a valve relief throughout the film for the audience. But you're a mother and you have a child that is sick. Yes. She has some illness. We're not quite certain, but it does involve a feeding tube. And she has weight objectives. She has to hit a certain weight before. She's discharged from this program. Yes. Yes. And she won't comply as kids don't. You can't get her to eat and gain weight. And you're kind of stuck in this purgatory. And you're unraveling in many, many ways.

53:30You have a terrible relationship with your husband. And my therapist. He's vomitous. Conan's her therapist. Oh, amazing. It's very fun to watch him act. I enjoyed that quite a bit. And you have these interesting parallels between the way you are inappropriate with your therapist and you yourself are a therapist and your patients are quite inappropriate with you. And yet you don't seem to see the parallels between any of this. She can't see anything. She can't see her child. The audience doesn't see the child. It's someone in a crisis and it's someone who's a caretaker more than a mother. I feel the film is about that in many ways.

54:06She's not in that role as a mother anymore. And she speaks about that. Like, this is what I want. This isn't what it's supposed to be. And everyone's been a caretaker, whether it's for a friend or a spouse or an animal or a parent. And that feeling of drowning under the pressure of that. That was the exact word I used. I was like, I felt like I was watching you drown for a very, very long time. It's a radical movie and it's kind of punk rock too. It's very bold. Things about being a mother people don't want to talk about. A lot of shame around any mother if you talk about disappointment or fear.

54:34So that's what I think it's about. I think it is an extremely heightened metaphor for the impossible pressures that are on modern mothers. See, there you go. There's your take. Oh, you got it. Yeah, yeah. But why it makes it hard for me to watch is I'm sure it's hard for you to watch. The notion of talking to my children the way that you talk to your kid, I hate it. Yeah. I fucking hate it. It's deeply uncomfortable. It is. And I imagine one of my little girls getting that source of comfort in a situation like that. and I'm irate. So in that way, the movie's extremely powerful because I'm having very intense.

55:12Strong reaction. It asks a lot. It's a radical kind of take on this stuff. And this is a tradition of seeing a woman break down. We've seen it before. The great Jenna Rollins. But I'm just saying this is a tradition of storytelling. It's a trope. This is through a female storyteller. This is through a female director, writer. And that is so wild and radical. We just haven't seen it that much. And truly from that perspective, literally through the lens of that. So it's interesting to hear how people feel and respond about it. How do you come to be involved? You get the script at some point. And what is on the page of this movie?

55:45My agent is very discerning. And she's only written a few times where she's like, you need to read this. I devoured it. And it was like fire. This hot piece of paper was just ripping through. And there was great symmetry in the script. What is happening in front of Linda in many ways is happening. How do I put this? There's metaphors that are happening in her life that she can't see that are also happening in her work, that are happening in her relationship, that are happening in her home. It skirts around existential stuff, which is great and something I'm drawn to as a viewer. And depression.

56:16What also is very clear to me is you get yourself into such a hole that objectivity escapes you and it's the thing you need the most. And the disease itself is what makes that impossible. Like the cruelty of that spiral. And she's trying to escape. Like, you know, it's bad choices and bad decisions and this constant need of trying to escape. But when I saw the film, I obviously knew the language Mary was using when we were filming it. The camera was extremely close. I was like, okay. Back up. Okay. On the first day, I was like, are you going to be that close? She was like, I am. But the visual storytelling is so arresting and I'm still figuring out the movie.

56:55There's so much ambiguity in the movie. There's so many questions asked and no answers. And I felt like that for me as a viewer, something I'm still trying to figure out, which is really cool. Did you enjoy it? Was it fun to play? Could you enjoy? Yeah, that's my question. Oh, I loved it. What a gift. What an opportunity. It was a high wire act of figuring it out every day. We had five or six weeks just Mary and I at her kitchen table talking. Oh, wow. About every line of dialogue, every piece of punctuation, like rehearsing for a play, you know, this gift of just talking. And without that, I would have felt untethered.

57:25And it was shot in 26 days. It's not a big movie. It's an ambitious movie. there's these crazy sequences in it, like with the hamster, the hole, falling, the sequence at the beach, all this very practical stuff. There was no CGI. Yeah. You got to figure out how to shoot that. She pushed the whole thing up. But do you suffer personally? I don't take it home. I have two little kids. I am not interested in, they're not interested if I'm having a hard day and nor should they be. And that's like, you know, we just talked about the giving tree. I have problems with that. Yes, it's a heartbreaking book.

57:58We just broke it down for way too long on the fact check. Yeah, we did. Do you think it's like a wildly misogynistic book? We think the tree is the mom. Yeah, I think the tree is the mom. I think it's totally heartbreaking. He is selfish. He's abusive. He destroys her. And also, this is the point I was trying to push on Monica, that's parenting and you don't care. I don't want anything back. Take my limbs, Take my legs. I'm happy if I push you over the finish line while I have you. So weirdly, it is heartbreaking. But also, that's parenting. And that's great. Because I'm not a victim in the parenting.

58:36I received it. And now I'll get to do it. And if you think of the tree as a mom who genuinely gets joy out of caring for and providing for and taking care of. And that way, it's not as bad as it's a heartbreaking book. I just read to my kids last night. That's why we're talking about it. And I'm like, yeah, this book is the saddest book. I hate this book. But I'm like, but also I don't feel that way about parenting. If it's a kid and a mom, whether the parent feels like it's okay, it's also just not okay. Like take, take, take, take, taking and not giving. It was parasitic. Exactly. So yeah. Probably problematic.

59:12Yep. Yeah. I will revisit. But can you relate to what I'm saying about how if you were to evaluate a friendship by that book, that would be a terrible friendship. And I would never have a friend that was a one-way street that I gave. No, of course, or a marriage. These relationships are conditional on treatment and respect. And you're not staying with that friendship or that marriage. They have to be symbiotic. Of course, there are conditions. But with a child, absolutely. It's a whole different framework, which is interesting. And if you maybe make it that physical and literal, it points out how extreme the situation is.

59:44But also, that might be what's so beautiful about the situation. I will read it. It's a complicated book. We're discovering it might be more complicated. We decided we want to invite Shell Silverstein to the pod when we do our ghost podcast. When we find a medium. Yeah. We need a really good medium. We have questions to ask him about this. Wouldn't that be fantastic? Right? Oh, my God. Bring a medium in. The notion that you willingly went through this is, like I said, it's really admirable. I didn't want to fuck it up. And it is a personal story to Mary Bronstein. I felt like it was such a wildly, unconventional, extraordinary thing.

1:00:17Enormously brave to acknowledge that whole side of someone. Especially of mothers. That's a scary thing. And I have an undercut in the movie. What's that mean? An undercut. A buzz cut. Okay, I liked that. I liked that. Oh, wow. Did you like that? Well, can you give me some credit that I shaved my hair? Yeah, I love it. That is wild. You don't even know what you just walked into. I have been begging Monica for eight years to shave the side of her hair. I'm like, you've shaved the side of her hair. I'm like, you have such red hair and it would look so cool. You have gorgeous hair. Your hair is like Vidal Sussi.

1:00:52Can you imagine how good this level of growing would look in black? I can't do it. She thinks she can't. And I accept that if it weren't because I think she thinks she can't pull it off. And that I refuse. It's not that I can't pull it off. It is not me. It's not my personality. You're limiting yourself. We don't know what you are with that haircut. I'm fine with it not being my personality. You're the one that wants me to have a new personality. No. I have a friend who has it here with a tattoo. Oh, that's cool. A leopard print tattoo. But it's probably that person's personality. It is. It is.

1:01:23Yeah, yeah, it is. But sometimes you can work from the outside in and you can discover like, oh, what's new? You know, when you're figuring out the character and you're like, or the person. Exactly. Okay, fine. You can write a script and cast it. Oh, that could be how I do it. But I need to be able to pick my co-stars. Okay. I need it to be like, who are you picking? Like I get the best of the best. And I got to self-finance. It's going to cost me a lot of time and money too. A hefty haircut. Oh, I have to tell you one funny thing. So I was cutting Monica's hair on air. I cut hair. He does a good job cutting hair.

1:01:54I have not had my hair cut by anyone but me in three years. Do you do Kristen's hair? I have done Kristen's hair. I've done her mother's hair. And so I was giving Monica trim before she took a trip. And I had secretly in my back pocket, I put my clippers. And she was sitting in that chair. And I was like working on her thing. And then I just started up the clippers. Pretend. He was a trick. He was a mean trick. Not okay. For us anxious girls. It was scary. Were you like, fuck, do I really want to shave my head? That was my idea. I was like, something's missing. Yeah, that was a good move. Did you love how you looked in it?

1:02:30Because it's a cool look. She looks busted. She looks really busted in the movie. Because she's losing it. Someone who's given up. Also, it is a sign of, it can be a sign of real depression. I mean, I remember having a therapist who looked like they'd given up. Oh, God, that is not a good sign. And we didn't last long, but she had given up. She'd quit. Yeah. That's not who you want to be therapizing you. I'm sure we've all had therapy in this room. And it is a rich examination of that, particularly with the Conan character in mind, because it's at the bitter end of a relationship with a therapist when they're both deeply misbehaving.

1:03:08Wow. And not doing their jobs properly. They're not doing the work. A lot of transference going on. Lots of transference. Just the notion you're telling him about a dream you had about him. And I was like, I can't imagine saying to my therapist. So, hey, I had this dream about you and you kissed me. And then your patient says the exact same thing to you. Oh, that's the symmetry. No one's doing therapy right in this building. But the reveal is great. It's a lot of twists and turns. Well, listen, I wish it followed the same trajectory of insidious. may this 100x the budget. Oh my gosh. That'd be great.

1:03:43I wish you a ton of luck. You're so brave. And once again, proving the point I made earlier, my God, can you do it all? Oh no. You're just like devastatingly good and heartbreaking and fucked up. She's like, get me out of here. And then you're simultaneously being funny and wonderful on Plutonic. Yeah. You're so sweet. Thanks for having me. In your armchair, finally. I got to come here and chat it up. Well, thank you, Rose. Thanks for coming. Thanks for supporting the movie. Yes, of course. I wish you luck. Everyone see it October 10th. Find it in a theater near you. Yes, sir. Go see it live. I imagine the experience in the theater will be a little bit like our movie last year that was intense like that.

1:04:21Substance. Oh. Did you see Substance in a theater? It's funny. You can be in them, but you can't. The gore. It was very gory. For me, I'm creepy crawling. It was intense. It's so funny, though. It is very punk rock, that movie. Yeah. It's wild. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.

1:04:57Hi. Hi. First and foremost, I want to say it was so heartwarming. all the Jennifer Aniston comments. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're so heartwarming. And especially because, so I feel like I should say this because people are probably going to be upset. I do look at the first few comments because those are people I know. And I do, and it's nothing against people who are strangers. Well, you can't trust them. No, I just I just don't want to be like swayed in any way by strangers opinions, good or bad. But the people in my life, I do feel like I want to, you know, connect with or whatever. Sure. So.

1:05:49Also, heaven forbid Jen commented. Heavens. Not forbid, but heaven. Heavens. Heavens. Heaven willing. Jasper's prayers. That should be a saying. Oh, Jasper's Prayers. Jaspers? Jaspers. Who's Jasper? I don't know. Jasper Daniels. Jasper Newton Daniels was Jack Daniels' real name. Oh, wow. I think it's a name, Jasper. Sure. I didn't know if that was a person you were referring to. No, no. I don't think I've ever met a Jasper, unfortunately. Me, that's kind of... But what did I just say? Jasper. Jasper's Prayers. Jasper's Prayers. Like, that should mean something great, fortuitous. Yeah. Well, anyway, a bunch of a bunch of a bunch of people really came out of the woodwork.

1:06:35Oh, in your friend group in in people I knew in high school and stuff. And it was really sweet because they they were around for my the height of my friend's addiction. And so that was so cute because they were like, Monica, I can't believe this for you. Time fabric is torn. Yes. And like someone from my improv group, my UCB improv group was like, I had, we would practice in my apartment. Yeah. And she was like, I have the images, the image of your box set like burned into my memory. I was like, oh, how sweet. But if there's a comment that said, guess I was wrong about Dairy Queen, cry face, cry face, cry face.

1:07:24What? What? The guy? Jasper. Jasper? Yeah. And then crying faces. You want us to feel bad? No. You think he meant it for real? No, it's a regret. Oh. He's like, I guess I was wrong about Derek. Cry face, cry face, cry face. He was wrong about that. I could have been. I mean, he was literally wrong and he was metaphorically wrong and objectively wrong. That's right. And emotionally and spiritually wrong. Yeah, but spiritually right. I don't know. You got to throw one right in there. I don't want him to hold that. My comments on that episode were solely about you. I mean, God bless Jen Aniston, but she didn't get a lot of feedback.

1:08:13Jasper's prayers for Jen Aniston. Someone did write a shokes just showing off now. I know. Oh, you saw that? No, but he is. Yeah, he's just showing off now. Oh, my dad. He's so cute. I hope it's not his grand finale. Dax! Monica! Don't, for real, don't say that. Wait, hold on. Let's be clear about what you think I'm saying. He's going to die? No. The Sims is going to be over in that, I guess in that way, we're all going to die, but don't live on. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I've been feeling a lot of anxiety. You're real on edge. Yeah, I don't know why. I feel even like, I feel jinx-y saying this. Okay.

1:08:52But I think obviously I'm sure it's just because his sister just passed away. Oh, uh-huh. That I'm like, I just feel anxious about him. Yes. But he was a good 14, 16 years younger than his sister. Like 12 or 11. Your dad's almost. My dad's 70. Oh, he's 70. Wasn't she 84 or 82? One or two. We don't really know anyone's real ages. That's the problem. India didn't. They didn't. Yeah, it wasn't for them. Yeah. Yeah, so. Well. Yeah. I understand. So I'm just a little anxious about him, you know? Yeah. And then I called them on Sunday to chit-chat. Have a little check-in chit-chat? Yeah, we check in on Sundays.

1:09:39Sundays check-in? And they were watching some documentary or something. Ooh, pin in that. Okay. Okay, they're watching some documentary. And like. I think it's earmarked, but go ahead. Okay. Pin in it. That means stop, right? Put a pin in it. I want to say what I want to say. Okay.

1:10:00Now, there's one side of the couch that has a chaise. It's a small couch. The living room is kind of weirdly shaped. So it kind of is this size. It only accommodates a couch of that size. Yeah. Yeah. And so one side has a chaise. And my mom always gets that side. Yeah. Okay. She's going to be doing her YouTubing on her. She does. She has a whole setup. Yeah, yeah. She needs it. Your dad doesn't need all that space. Well, okay. Then they're watching TV together and he's like, he looks so uncomfortable on that couch. And it makes me so sad. I don't think he is. I think you're projecting. I think he's, he would get himself comfortable.

1:10:39He's a very smart man. He doesn't know what comfort is. I don't think he knows what it's like to be comfortable. You have a really dynamic assessment of your father. He's like, you like infantilize him at some time. And he's a dad. Of course he's a dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. He like knows everything. And yet he doesn't know what comfort is. No, it's okay. He doesn't because he's like, I don't care about. He just, it's like, as you said, you said this once about dads. Like you're starting to understand, like dads just start to like, they just like be quiet and they deal with it. They deal. They don't speak up.

1:11:21They don't say I'm uncomfortable. Right. So that's what's happening. I'd argue that your dad is comfortable in that scenario. Well, his body looks uncomfortable to me and just - That's because he's not lifting. That's because he's not lifting. He's not lifting, no. I know. If he started lifting, his posture would take over and his form would be a little different. No, okay. Well, also when I was, when I'm home and sometimes I've sat there, it's not, okay, maybe this is a better, this was a better way to start it. Objectively, it's not a comfortable spot on the couch at all. Because there's this like other little pillow to kind of put your feet on and it's like not good.

1:12:02Now, why aren't you buying them a couch for Christmas? I keep saying, let's get a new couch, but there's not a good couch for that space. In this modern era with AI, if you put in the dimensions of the current couch and say, I want a couch at this dimensions and this price range, I bet it'd find you an answer in one second. Okay. My mom's going to be mad at you about this because she's like, I've looked, I've done it. But she's a human. We can only look so good. No, it's because like the angle of the living room is strange. Like you walk in, you can't really have a J's on both sides. You're making it seem like this living room is somehow like 22 square feet and shaped like a peanut shell or something.

1:12:50It is shaped really strange. Why? Is there a stairwell in the middle of something? There are stairs, but also. Could you have them send a pick over of this? Yeah. Lay out. We'll post it. Have them get on the couch too. I want to see your dad in this position and see if I agree that he's uncomfortable. I'm glad you're bringing up dads. My wife is out of town. Yes. For the week. And it's an inordinately busy week with the kids and the schedules. Oh. We have, Lincoln has play rehearsal at night. Great. Delta has, Delta's up and joined a volleyball team. Oh. Yep. So she had her first practice on Monday night.

1:13:34And then last night, Lincoln, her rehearsal tonight, her first game. Her first practice was Monday. Her first game is tonight. Delta. Oh, my God. That's too fast. That's not enough practice. It's very quick. We've got two different projects that are due at school. Oh, I saw one on the table. It was so cute. Yes, like the whole chain of food chain in the tropical food chain. Yes, yes. And then Lincoln has this crazy sewing project. Oh, cool. I mean, it's all cool if you're not the only adult at the house. Yeah. And so like Monday night, Delta goes, what is the, yeah, Delta goes, are you going to get up and make us breakfast?

1:14:24And I go, no, I'll be journaling and meditating. Oh, shit. Okay. You can make your breakfast. Mind you, she makes dinner and lunch when she wants it. She makes breakfast a lot. Kristen, especially if she's about to go out of town. Oh. She'll really get up early and put on a show. Oh. I get it. Okay, yeah. Pancakes and stuff. Yum. I know. I can't really imagine this childhood that these kids are having. I know. I want that. So I'm like, girl, you know how to make toast, oatmeal, cereal, eggs. They can cook eggs. I'm like, you know how to make breakfast. But she wants to do her hair and get ready and then come and sit in the breakfast is ready, of course.

1:15:00But this girl gets up so early she got time for all of it. All right. So anyways, it was the way she accepted it. It was sad. No, she was like really kind of generous about it. Oh. That I then felt bad. Yeah. So then I did wake up really early. Today? Yesterday morning. Oh, okay. And I make, cause Monday night she said, are you going to make breakfast tomorrow? I said, no. Yeah. But then the way she like, okay. And then I felt bad. So then I did wake up and I made eggs for everyone. That's great. It's great. It's really great. And so last time I was like, I can't, something's got to give. Something's got to give in this scenario.

1:15:43So I did a pre-order from Starbucks. I really endorsed. Yes. Okay. By the way, pin and something's got to give. Okay. Right. And we have another existing earmark. Or is that the same one? Because you said put a pin in it a minute ago. Now I already forgot. Damn it. So yeah, I just kind of splurged and I put in an order. I know the refreshers they like and then they like the pesto. This sounds like an ad. It's not an ad. I wish. It's insane they're not a sponsor. Yeah, because the egg bites are great. So I got four of those bad dogs. Yeah. Got myself kind of a fancy coffee. It was great. Other than I will say this.

1:16:18There, you know, there's often paparazzi in front of my gate. and there's probably two million photos of me getting Postmates. Of course, they don't sell one of these photos. No one wants to see this. Food delivery, yeah. But I scrambled outside. It did occur to me. I grabbed this Starbeez at seven in the morning and I was wearing a very thin pajama bottom and a tank top. And I was like, as the gates were opening, I was like, oh, this is not the wardrobe for a paparazzi. unless I want the entire world to see my penis. Okay. So. So keep your eyes peeled, I guess. There was not a paparazzi, luckily.

1:16:58But I just was like, oh, I didn't think this through as it was too late. Yeah, and then you were upset because you were like, oh, like I can't even get my egg bites. I wasn't upset. I just was like, I got to have a better game plan if I repeat this move tomorrow morning, which I'm likely to do. Okay. And then, so busy, busy, busy. Messy, messy, messy. That's from Frosty the Snowman. Oh. So anyways, I hit the, by the time I was, I took the girls to the In-N-Out last night. Uh-huh. And on the ride there at 5 p.m., I said to them, I said, Lincoln, you might have to take the steering wheel. I think I'm going to fall asleep.

1:17:37Wow. I was so tired at 5 p.m. Interesting. But then I stayed, we stayed up naturally till, I don't know, 9.30, fell asleep. And I was so tired. then Monica 3 a.m wakey wakey put my grant book on tape back on fall back to sleep 30 minutes later I do that three times fine 4 40 I'm like what's we're doing it so again I got up at 4 40 this morning oh wow and then I did get a lot of writing done oh that's good yeah that was that was good that was rewarding you use the time to make breakfast why I'd already put in the Starbucks Oh, God, you could. I didn't end up needing to do that as Murphy's Law would have it.

1:18:21Sure. But whatever. It was coming and I was going to accept it. Okay. And I needed the caffeine. I understand. When my mom was sick or have a sickness or something and my dad was in charge, we would have Subway for every meal. Sure. Did you like it? Yeah. Yeah. But also it was like, oh, God. when is she gonna be better oh my god um speaking of that I'm reading a book called the wedding people and there was a line in there that said something about people who wake up at 3 a.m what did it say and I meant dog ear dog ear another word we could use instead of pin or earmark earmark okay and i didn't okay it's in my bag i'm tempted to go look really quick okay go ahead i'm just curious if i may be asleep when you return but that's okay stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare

1:19:36well because i'm sleeping about five hours a night and then i'm doing the job of two parents yeah but why don't you nap while they're at school i know but we didn't have anything yesterday i had stuff rolled a wall yesterday oh what'd you have well one thing was incredible i took a bike my first buddy bike ride with Nate. Okay. He got a bicycle, which is so exciting. And we went up to the observatory. Then we had breakfast. So that doesn't really count. But then I edited two episodes of the show. I wrote my opening. Of mom's car? Mom's car. Oh. And then I wrote my opening for an MC job I have.

1:20:14And then the kids were home from school. On that note, I do just want to say, the Breeze episode came out so good. And I'm so happy about it. I'm really, really happy about it. I'm happy mostly because she liked it and her mom liked it. And that's a big relief. That's huge. And then the Arm Cherries really, really love Bree. No shocker. Yeah. But that just makes me so happy. If you haven't heard that episode of Mom's Car, I recommend it. It's so good. All right. Well, it's something about people who wake up at 3 a.m. Now, in your mind, can you see what side of the page it's on and where roughly?

1:20:54Yeah. Isn't that weird? Like, that is how my brain works. I don't want to go so far as to say a photographic memory, but I do know where anything I remember is physically situated on the page. I think it's on this side. Okay. But I'm not finding it, so. Can you believe that guy that Rain Man was based on who reads books all day long at the Salt Lake City library, that he reads both pages at the same time with two different eyes? Can you imagine? Well, I thought you found it. Oh, no. I thought I was trying to do it. No, it can't be done. It can be if that guy can. Yeah. All right. Tradeoffs. Maybe one day I'll find it.

1:21:35But it was a very interesting point. What book is it? It's called The Wedding People. Okay. Pin in Something's Gotta Give. Okay. Okay. I watched it, that movie, Something's Gotta Give with Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson. Oh, yes. Yes. I just, I guess, I mean, this is a horrible thing to say because, you know, I love rom-coms so much. It's a Nancy Meyers movie. Yes, a Nancy Meyers movie. and I love rom-coms and I love Nancy Meyers and I can't, but I was like, I haven't seen it. So Diane Keaton sadly has passed away. Yeah, former co-star of mine. Really? Yeah, I did a movie called Smother with her.

1:22:21Wow. Well, I love her and so I decided to watch it, but I think I hadn't watched it because I was like, oh, that's that like old person rom-com. Mm-hmm. You know, when I was like young and sprightly. But is it Keanu and Favreau in it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And Amanda Peete, maybe. Yep. She's in it as well. Wow. You know it well. Yeah. And anywho, I loved it. She is. She's so good. And like, she's just doing a rom-com and it's so believable. It's so believable and heartfelt. Yeah. Oh, my God. I loved it. I love it. Wait, wasn't it? Was Greg Kinnear also? No, that's another one I love. And the dog Trudell.

1:23:06Trudell, Trudell. And Helen Hunt. Yeah. What is it called? All's well. All in all. As good as it gets. As good as it gets. And what's the other one? Something's got to give. Something's got to give. This is insane in Nicholson's in both movies. Yeah. Okay. This is part of. And he has little bacon treats for the Brussels graffon. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's complicated. is another one. So that was a fun thing I did. I left a party to watch it. Okay. Let's see. I had... I went to the movies by myself this weekend. Yeah. Which is a fun thing to do. It is. I like it quite a bit. I really enjoy that.

1:23:47I saw After the Hunt, the Julia Roberts, Iowa Debris, Andrew Garfield movie. Oh, I have not heard of that. It's by the director of Challengers. Oh, your favorite. My favorite. And Call Me By Your Name. And I'm still processing. So I'm not going to give an... A score? I'm not going to give a score. I'm not going to talk about... We don't really even do that, do we? We don't give a score. He makes... In real life. Oh, yeah. But never on here. No, no, no. But yeah, I don't need to talk about the movie. But I will say, there were people... I guess to be fair, it was during the trailers. but there were multiple people in the theater that were talking at full volume.

1:24:33And I was so. Where did you see the movie? The Americana. Okay. Yeah. And it was at 12 o 'clock. Okay. PM. Yeah. And they were talking at full volume. And I was like, I was like doing this for the listener, just like looking around. Hoping to shame some, like catch their eyes. But more like looking to see someone other, somebody else be also looking like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I thought, is this because of streaming? Is this because people don't know how to be in a theater anymore and be around other people? And respect that other people don't want to hear what you're saying?

1:25:13No, I think it really has a lot to do with where you see the movie, personally. Really? The Americana is so nice. I'll say, yes, there's a rash of insanity happening. We were at our trip to In-N-Out yesterday. This guy was watching on his phone at In-N-Out. Yeah, I've seen this. A TV show or the news or something like as loud as possible. I know. Coughing, he could have only had tuberculosis. And I'm looking in, because you know, at that In-N-Out, you can be seated right next to somebody, but you're not at their table. Like they've got those two tops like stacked in. And we just kept as a family, we kept going like, this guy just doesn't give a flying fuck.

1:25:53He's watching TV. And I'm looking at this poor woman next to him who's up seven inches from this guy's face. Yeah. And I had to make like CBT. I had to make I had to start distracting myself because I started getting so sheriffy. Right. Exactly. I'm like, this is insane. He's ruining this poor woman's thing. He's ruining those people right next to him. No one's saying anything. Yeah. He's just allowed to ruin everyone's meal. I know. that they all stood in line for an eternity to enjoy. And I'm like, you know, I'm going to say something. And then I'm like, I'm not going to because Lincoln will hate that.

1:26:30Yes, good. So however much I'll be saving their discomfort, I'll be creating my own discomfort. But it is so hard for me to watch that. That is how I felt. I was like, should I say something? I don't think at a movie theater you should expect to have to deal with people speaking at full volume. Like that is not to be to be fair. Once the movie started, that did stop. OK, so I guess they thought like. I'm not willing to say that full statement because when I lived in Detroit and I'd go to the movies in Detroit, everyone there talks the whole movie and they love it. Like they don't mind at all. Like that's what's culturally happening.

1:27:17And they're all happy as hell. So I make, who am I to say how they're supposed to be watching? How anyone's supposed to be watching a movie. Well, at a movie theater, literally it, it tells you to be quiet. I know. I know. So that's a rule. That's an etiquette rule. Sure. Maybe there's some theaters where people are like, no, this is a theater where everyone talks or something. And that's, that's not the Americana. I go to the Americana all the time. this isn't that yeah and it was like i you know i was kind of doing a little bit of like notice me and notice that i'm uncomfortable yeah yeah yeah right right a little pass aggressive yeah yeah yeah passive aggression believe me i was trying to get the guy's eye contact he was coughing but i couldn't compete with the news program he was watching and all the coffee yeah they were the lettuce that was shooting out of his mouth yeah similarly they They were too deep in their worlds to recognize that other people don't want to be involved in your conversation.

1:28:16Or then I felt bad because I'm like, because then they were just laughing really loud. And I was like, yeah, but I was annoyed. Now, I am somewhere between them and you when it comes to trailers. See, I didn't I came to see another one battle after another. Yeah. If I'm seeing some terrible trailer for a movie I'm never going to see, I'd certainly rather be talking to Nate. Dax. And the movie hasn't started. I would never interrupt you. But other people, it's about other people. Yeah, this really. What about if they talk during the commercials before the trailers? That's fine, but still not at full volume.

1:28:51Like I, I guess, so I was realizing this. I was like, oh my God. That, obviously we know I have injustice stuff, but I think it's, very specifically triggered when it's people who think they're the only people on earth, like people who are not aware that other people. That's very unattractive. I agree with you. I agree with you. We already know what your thing is in this situation because we've already talked a lot about it, which is what I think what's really getting triggered is you always felt like you had to do everything right or you'd be excluded. so when you see someone have total public disregard making a spectacle of themselves and they're not even afraid of getting excommunicated i think that's what's in the mix that we've already talked about in the past no that's not it that's not what's happening here here i'm watch i am enjoying the trailers yeah you love them i love trailers all trailers no okay but i was enjoying a bunch of these and then i was like i kept getting like jolted out because of these dum-dums.

1:30:04And I was like, it's a very much like, how dare you think your time or your enjoyment is more important than mine? Yeah, so you prioritize your experience over everyone else. Yes, and that's so shitty. Selfish. Then it's so selfish. Yes, selfish is really, that hurts, that annoys me. And also, but then I had to think because I do like to be thoughtful and self-aware. And I was like, is it possible I do this? But I'm not, I don't know it because I don't see movies by myself very much. Like I'm obviously so hyper aware because I'm by myself. Yes. And so I really had to think like, maybe do I do this?

1:30:45You and Jess might have been laughing during the trailers. That's what I was wondering. Yeah. But I feel actually pretty certain that I don't speak at full volume. Maybe I would laugh harder with other people there. You would love living in Japan. Okay. Because that's where the absolute social contract is thoughtfulness to the people around you above yourself. It doesn't have to be above yourself. That's like, to me, that's a misconception. It's like in order to, like, I have to, it's not a sacrifice to just whisper. Right, right, right, right. You know, like they could have talked. I'm not saying they had to be like silent and in a little bubble.

1:31:31Yeah. But they needed to have some awareness that, I mean, am I wrong? I don't think I'm wrong. Am I wrong? You know, Chris and I always say this, we go, am I right or am I wrong? Yeah. Am I right or am I wrong? Yeah. So I don't know. I just, that was tricky for me. Yeah. Then as soon as the movie was over, one of the person, one of the people ran out so fast. I think she had a Tonka. And I was like, that is karma. That was karma. Yeah. But if I had the ability, like my superpower was to make people have diarrhea. Oh, and you could look at them. Like in Wednesday, the kid with the snake hair would turn you to stone.

1:32:19Right. Yeah. If you could like, you had to cover your hair, but when you took your headband off and they saw your hair, it would just squirt out. Diarrhea, yeah. But the painful kind. Oh, yeah, yeah. Moaning.

1:32:34Anyway. I have no opinion whether it's right or wrong. Okay. I just think you you would, I just feel like you just said you agree because I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, driving me nuts. The guy was coughing and shooting food all over the table while his TV was. I don't know. That drove me nuts for sure. I know for me, the goal is who suffered? I did. Not the guy. Yeah. I suffered because I was uncomfortable and agitated. Right. And so I do know my goal in life is to not let that kind of stuff affect me. That's my ultimate goal because I'll be I'm the only one that pays the price. The guy doesn't care.

1:33:19He doesn't know that I was agitated and distracted by all this coughing. So all I've done is I've made myself suffer. We just had an expert, the semi-similar, had a similar, oh, let them. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, why is this ringing a bell? But I do know the path to me having the nicest time on earth is to not be affected by that. I mean, that's just a truth I know for myself. Right. So I aspire to accept the world as it is. Unless someone's getting hurt, I do want to get involved if someone's getting hurt. But I do think the happiest version of my life is one where I'm not annoyed and agitated by other people.

1:33:59Sure. For me. Yeah. I mean. That doesn't sit well with you, does it? Something about that feels thorny. Yeah, it does. But I mean, I agree. Because you feel like it's a surrender that you're accepting bad behavior. No, it's not like I sat through the whole movie and I was like. But even while it's happening. I know, but like, I guess to me, that's, I'm not choosing it. Oh, no. I think it happens quite organically. Yeah. Agitation. Yeah. Agitation happens organically. And then you can try your best to let it go. And then when they start screaming again, it's coming back. Like. Is anyone screaming fire?

1:34:37No, I don't know. Because they say that's illegal. They say it in a theater. Yes, it is illegal. go. I mean, I'm mixed on this because I agree that you should not let other people's, you know, you should being annoyed is not a good feeling if you can let it go. Great. But I also understand if someone's doing something like obnoxious, obnoxious, you're not an island of you are amongst others. So like you are and you're right. And you'd win in court. The point is, if you got to work backwards from reality. Can I control that? Do I have any say over it? If I can control it and change it, if I have that power, then I should care and I should do something.

1:35:22But if I assess that I can't do anything about it, then I know my quickest route to relief is to just accept this is how life is in this movie theater. No, but I guess that maybe that's part of the agitation is like, should I say something? In fact, there is the option to change it. It's, excuse me guys, do you mind keeping it down? Sure. I could have, I think you could have, but it sounded like there were a lot of people, right? You couldn't have gone through the whole theater one by one. These two people. Oh, it was. Yeah. I mean, but then I think they were having a contagion effect because then some other people were kind of.

1:35:59Were they treating you in any other way? Were they like boys that seemed rowdy or it was a man and a woman. I would guess around my age. Like, I want to be clear. I'm not saying anything wrong. Do you hear that? Yeah. Okay. And I'm not judging you one iota. I know. But do you think I should have maybe said something? I do think potentially that is the cause of what's like, because yeah, it's one thing. If you're in a position where you really cannot control anything, then you're like, okay. Okay, now here's another thought. Okay. This is basically what you're always telling me to do, which is almost impossible for me to do.

1:36:36Okay. You said it was Tuesday in the middle of the afternoon. No, Sunday. Okay, how packed was the theater? Not at all. So you could have got up and moved away from them. No, no, I was not close to them. Oh, how far away were they? Also, the theater was small. I don't think that movie's doing well. So there literally would have been nowhere in the theater to go without being, that's what I'm saying about how loud it was. This is not like I was sitting next to them and they were just being loud. They were being obnoxious. And I did think, should I leave the movies? Like that really crossed my mind.

1:37:17Like how much am I going to take of this before I decide like, I got to go. I can't handle this. But then that made me so sad. It's like I made this whole plan to see this movie by my little old self because all my friends are out of town. Uh-huh. And no one wants to hang out with me. And I guess I have to hang out with me and I have to be my own best friend. Yeah. So I'm going to take myself to the movies. I'm going to be my own best friend. I'm going to take myself to the movies. Yeah. You want to spoil myself? Yeah. I did. I got a hot chocolate. I'm going to wear something pretty. Oh, no. Do you think this could be my own karma now that we're talking this through?

1:37:52because I got a hot chocolate at the Starbucks, ding, ding, ding, at, I almost said Baskin-Robbins, Barnes and Noble. What? Nothing. What? Nothing. I love that. I love Barnes and Noble and I love that hot chocolate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get a little bit of whipped cream. Oh, yeah. It's so rare. I used to get that all the time. The whipped cream in your hot chocolate? No, the hot chocolate, that hot chocolate. I used to get it all the time. And then, you know, I've grown up and I don't get it anymore. But I thought, I'm going to indulge. I'm taking myself on a date. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I got it.

1:38:27But the thing is, you're not allowed to bring in outside drinks. I've learned this the hard way at the Americana. Yeah. So I put it in my purse. I smuggled it in. So great. This is great. So your thing was like loud things, hearing all that chatter and you couldn't. Someone else would be so bent out of shape that you brought something in when it clearly said not to bring any food. and now I bring outside food all the time. I smuggle it in. Yeah. I want caffeine-free Diet Coke. They don't sell caffeine-free. Put it in my pockets. Sure. For some other person, their big thing is, well, I'd like to bring too.

1:39:01Maybe I want to bring a full ham sandwich in here. But, okay. But I follow the rules in this, right? So we just have to acknowledge that like, we're also doing things that somehow would make people mad because. Okay. I want to push back on that. Okay. My bringing in the hot chocolate only affects me. I'm glad you did, by the way. Well, no, they smell it. They'd be like, I don't want to smell hot chocolate. That's why they have a rule. Okay, first of all. No, but don't you think, easily you can imagine someone who's like, you're not supposed to. Yes, yes, I imagine that person. But I'm saying to me, there's a hard and fast rule in difference in that one is impeding on other people's experience.

1:39:43Yeah, yeah. And again, if these two people want to talk through the entire movie and I can't hear it, I don't care about that. I don't care that they're talking. I care that I can't engage in my experience because of them. Okay, do you want to - And the hot chocolate just smells great. I figured out a way though. Do you want to hear how? Okay. You can spill it. I spilt it in my purse. Oh, sorry. So again, it only affected me. Right, but you could spill their hot chocolate, which you weren't supposed to bring in. And then the next showing, someone could sit in the seat you're in, And they're like, oh, the floor is fucking sticky.

1:40:20Probably because someone fucking brought a big sugary drink in here. And it says you're not supposed to bring a sugary drink in here. Okay. You're really grasping at stress. I don't think I am. I'm just saying. Because they sell slushies there. It's not because you can't eat or drink in the theater. It's because they want you to buy the stuff in the theater. Yeah, yeah. I know what it's all about. So there could still be a spill regardless. And here's the other thing about me, Monica. Yeah. If I spilled hot chocolate everywhere, I would clean it up. You brought a mop with you? No, I would go get the paper towels.

1:40:53That's not going to cut it. You need water in a mop because of the sugar. I mean, same as someone spills a Coca-Cola that they bought. I concede to that. Oh, my God. You're always trying to fight me. No, I'm not. No, I'm kidding. I know. I know you're not. I'm trying to do what the guests we had on, which is like, let them let me. I'm attempting to apply that strategy to this problem you had. What I went to when they were behaving in this manner is, do I say something? And then I didn't. Then I was probably like, why am I not saying anything if this is bad? You know? So that's my own thing. You felt cowardly.

1:41:32Maybe, but then there's this like, who am I to tell them? But I think I am just a human on earth who could be like, can you please keep it down? What if they go, sorry, we're utilitarian. You're one person. We're two people. I'd be like.

1:41:52You're like, have you been listening to my podcast? What did you go? I didn't expect you to be so smart. Ew. I would definitely not. If I had an interaction with them that was bad, if I did approach them, I would leave. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, so this happened to me. You may remember this story with Bree and her friend and some dude I never met. And the guy in front of me, a gangbanger, took a phone call. Yeah. He's on this phone call so loud. And I just was trying, trying, trying. And finally, I said, hey, can I say hi? Right. And he goes, what? And I go, well, I'm part of this fucking conversation.

1:42:28So can I have the phone and say hi? Yeah. You want to go? So now I go outside. As you recall, I don't realize he's there with five other guys. I don't know why they're all spread out in the theater at the AMC City Walk. and I walk out into the lobby. And yeah, now I'm out there with six dudes and I'm going to get killed. And there's a security guard making$1 an hour who's also 21 years old and 100 pounds. He's got a walkie-talkie. That's my only hope. Thank God they start talking to him. I go back in the theater. And yeah, then I sit down. I'm like, okay, here are my options. I got to go in the lobby and I got to call Scotty.

1:43:00And I got to get together five friends to come up to this movie theater so that it's a fair fight when I leave. Or we got to leave mid-movie, which is what we did. Yeah. So like in that case, I learned a real hard lesson. I know, but again, I'm going to have to push back. Okay. What you did is so different than what I might have even done, which is politely say, hey, excuse me, I'm really sorry, but do you guys mind keeping it down? That's how it would have gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that is not this, that's not provoking. My hunch is though, if you had done that and they complied, when you walked back to your seat, I think you would have regretted it.

1:43:45I think you would have sat down and been like, I didn't need to do that. I know, that's why I didn't do it. I think you made the right call. Because I don't think when we do that, I don't think ultimately what we do is we sit down and we go, we shouldn't let that go. So you should be happy. You did the right thing. But did I? Because like, there was an old person nearby me. He couldn't hear you or the movie or the trailer. No, they were also there by themselves. They also took themselves on a date. But no, but also circling back, what happens to me is I start thinking, why is this happening? So that's why I said, I think maybe streaming is the cause of this.

1:44:23Like, have we as a society moved away from knowing how to be in the movie theater? I'm 50 people been talking in trailers the whole, my whole ride. It was agreed. Anywhere I lived in Detroit, you weren't allowed to talk the entire film. Okay, well, I've been to the theaters a lot too. And I'm 38. I'm not young. I just thought the way this was happening and maybe the age demographic of these people, I was thinking like something feels like wrong because they don't even, they don't, they're not thinking anything about this. Yeah. Like they think it's totally fine. And I, they do think they think they're in, they're in their own bubble.

1:45:06And it's like, you remember you came to the movie theater and there's other people here. But I think they thought they were on their couch. I've also been a bad person at the movies. I'm just remembering. Okay. Because Nate and I used to go to movies all the time. And if a movie was a real stinker, like a really bad movie, we had a kind of routine. This is how you would signal is you would try to sit back in your seat and get out of your whole shirt. Oh, right. without them noticing and then lean forward like you're going to watch the movie a little closer and then Nate realizes oh that says his shirt off either one of us would do this yeah and it was so fun and then it became like you'd walk like you were gonna go get popcorn with your shirt off you know so I did I've done a lot of so I was about to say actually that's would be fine because that's not affecting other people.

1:45:59But then the walking is not okay. That's distracting. It is. It was distracting because it would make me laugh extremely hard if I was watching a film and I just out of the corner, I saw Nate lean forward and I noticed he didn't have a shirt on in the movie. I would laugh pretty hard and it might not be a funny scene in the movie. Oh yeah, I don't like that. So my apologies to anyone that was next to Nate and I. Okay, let's do some facts. Okay. So we talked about Wicked for a second and you said Alphaba. No, you asked what the woman's woman, the name, the character. I mean, she is a woman. The witch.

1:46:42Right. Is she, are we allowed to say she's a woman? She's a witchy woman. Witchy woman. Interesting. Anyway, and you asked her name and I said Alphaba. But really quick. Yeah. Which woman is redundant? Hey. It is. Why? We don't ever refer to men as— Yeah, you'd be a wizard. So we don't need to say which woman. Someone in Wicca is going to be mad. There's probably a male Wicca witch, but I'm talking— That's a woman. So it's just redundant to say which woman. It actually sounds like you're saying W-H-I-C-H. Which one of these women? No, which— I don't know. I think when you say which, it's implicit.

1:47:28Well, I don't know if I like that, and I got to think about it. Okay. Okay? Okay. Alphaba is not her name. I said Alphaba. It's Elphaba. L-E-L? E-L. And I said A-L. That was embarrassing. I thought it was Alphaba, too. Alphaba. The new movie is coming out very soon. Yeah, TikTok. Wow. Um, okay. I'd like to have Ariana Grande on. I would too, because we had Elphaba slash Cynthia Erivo on last time. And I'm going to Halloween as for Ariana Grande. That's right. So I just feel like all the, I'm making as much of a commitment as I can to woo her. Yeah, that'd be great. Okay. Now, Australia's relationship to religion, she was like, is different from here.

1:48:17So then I looked it up. most religious countries. Saudi Arabia, number one. Sure. Just as we would expect. Number two, Israel. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Three, Iran. Mm-hmm. Four, India. Oh. Five, United Arab Emirates. UAE. Six, Egypt. Seven, Qatar. Qatar, Qatar. I don't know what to say. You didn't say either. Eight, Jordan. nine, Turkey, 10, Oman, 11. How many can I do? Okay, I'm going to scroll down. You just basically say the Middle East plus India in this case. Yeah, and Israel. That's Middle East. Israel number two. Oh, kind of count that as separate. Thailand's on here as number 23. Mexico's 25. That makes sense.

1:49:11Yeah, where's the US? I know I'm looking. I would have thought we'd be way up higher. I haven't got there yet. I'm at 50. I mean, we have a lot of agnostic and. But when you look up what percentage of Americans believe in basically Jesus or some Judeo-Christian, it's super high. Like in the 80s percent, I think. I don't know. It's 69. Number 69. Perverse. Yep. Do you mind if I ask? Sure. What percentage of Americans believe in God? What percentage of Americans believe in God? 83 % of U.S. adults believe in God. Jesus or God? Well, we got to say God because we have Jews and Islam. We have Muslims.

1:50:04We have Christians. Well, that's. But if I, let's see how you're, let's ask France. Okay. What percentage of people in France believe in God? 44%. So 44 versus 81 was like twice as many people here. Yeah, that's true. But I guess just on the scale, there's a lot more. Must be in the 90s in all those places. Exactly, yeah. Okay, what did Poehler say recently about comedy? She said, every single year at the Oscars, everybody gets blanked. said the 50-year-old. That must be fucked. I guess. I don't know if that's a word people use. Oh. I can't imagine Polar saying blank. She'd say fucked. Well, it says it's some hot bullshit.

1:50:55Oh. Interesting. Because comedy is not easy. That's what she said. Yeah. That's true. That's true. She's right. Yep. Warren Buffett did pledge the majority of his fortune to be donated to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation along with four other family foundations. He made a public pledge in 2006 to give away the bulk of his wealth and has been making large annual donations. Good boy. Yeah. It says, he has stated that the Gates Foundation will not receive any money after his death. The remainder of his estate will be distributed to his family's foundations. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. You said what's in the box in Pulp Fiction.

1:51:37When you said what's in the box, I was like, that's seven. You thought of seven? Yeah. because it's a briefcase case yeah yeah and I don't know what's in it no one does I know yeah someone said one of the rumors is the Ten Commandments yeah that was one of them is Marcellus Wallace's soul oh wow glowing I thought you were going to say Marcellus the seashell the seashell no

1:52:06Marcellus the shell yeah all right Well, that's it for Rose. That was all for facts. Light on facts. Pretty light on facts. That's okay. We like it sometimes. Sometimes. When it's light on facts. You get what you get and you don't get upset. That's right. That's the same. All right. Love you.

1:52:53Tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondery.com slash survey.