Friends of the Stone Age w/ Josh Homme

19:54Bobby Lee:Oh, you'd know right away. Do you understand what I'm saying? So that's why that's not good. By the way, the funniest scene could have been is the moment he walked in somewhere as Batman someone goes, Bruce? Right away. Exactly. Could have spoiled the whole... Exactly. So give me a jawline where I wouldn't be able to tell between Bruce Wayne and Batman. Which one of them? Yeah. Well, probably Affleck. Let me see Afflecks. Affleck looked like the most un-Batman Batman. Look, that looks, I couldn't. I wouldn't know if that was Ben Affleck, maybe. I don't know that that's Ben Affleck. You're right.

20:23Bobby Lee:It actually looks the least like him outside of the mask. But he looks sad, too, which is I like. Well, because he was thinking about his performance.

20:31Bobby Lee:Also, the suit was so insane. It was so thick, yeah. This is like the steroids era of baseball, and they were like, we got to juice this guy up. he was too big oh my god dude i watched i went down the biggest robert pattinson massive pass massive pass mickey 17 huh oh no what good no i'm saying this this as batman oh absolutely not do you see the movie no i'm not interested did you see the movie look at his neck the movie is wearing a shirt with the collar up can you can you guys admit that movie is good i don't care No please watch it I cannot You have to watch It's so good And who's that And who's that His lesbian friend No that's Black Catwoman Black woman Yeah it's black woman dude Listen up Batman You better watch yourself Batman That's black woman dude What are you doing here black woman Yeah yeah yeah You been late on You been late on child support For months Batman Yeah So Black woman Black woman yeah So that's So you never really saw that one.

21:35Where is black woman? She's late again.

21:42That's so funny. I haven't seen it. Yeah. Please. I'll watch it. No. And also when I was watching her in the movie, I wasn't like, there's black woman. I was like, there's cat woman. Right? Okay. So it's good. I'm going to sing you some music. Yeah.

22:10Awful. No, you're not. I'm not done. That's awful. Yeah, I'm not done.

22:13Bobby Lee:I'll combat that. I'll match that and do you one better. What?

22:20Oh, with sound of music? Am I watching the sound of music? Say it. Say it in the mic.

22:25Bobby Lee:No, no, no. What? That music.

22:30Bobby Lee:By the way, that set the precedent for every other band. No, no, no, no, no, no. They reused that in all the Batman. If I was from a different planet, sing the song again. Hello. Wait, wait, let me be an alien. Yeah. Wow. Earth is beautiful. I heard about movies. Give me a theme of a movie, please. Of music, I mean.

22:53Bobby Lee:Oh, you want for themes of things? Movies and TV shows? And I will tell you what kind of movie it is.

23:03Broke back mountain.

23:10And what song is that? It's a Nirvana song. Something in the way. Yeah. Something in the way. There's something. Right? But that's a stolen song. It doesn't matter. It's an original composition. No, no, no. You guys know. No, they re - You fucking know. They re-do it. They re-do it.

23:29Bobby Lee:This song set the precedent for every other band. You hear it in every movie. Frodo, get away from the ledge. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, get away from the ledge, Frodo. Fuck you. Yeah, yeah. Now let me ask you another thing. Hold on, just be quiet. Let me do it, ready? All right, do it. Close your eyes. They are closed. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

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27:27the materials you need to keep your jobs moving. Just like that at Lowe's. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm a huge fan of Queens of the Stone Age, one of my favorite bands. I also like them Crooked Vultures. That album is so good.

27:44Bobby Lee:We've talked about you on the show behind your back very often. Very often. Enough where our fans are like, who cares, shut up. Sometimes what I do is, if you go to iTunes and you go to Queens of the Stone Age, right? Sure. And they have that animatic and it has him dancing in it. Yeah. Sometimes I'll just stare at him dancing. You know what I mean? You're wearing a leather jacket, you're dancing. That's not creepy at all. You know what it is? Because you're a tall drink of water and you dancing is the cell. They did that on the boomerang. You're talking about like the loop? Yeah, he'll do it.

28:18Bobby Lee:Yeah. And no matter what song is playing, you're dancing in that thing matches it. No, that doesn't sound that cool to me it doesn't yeah i mean yeah yes it does see no i mean do you choose that or no no because apple go hey look what we got i i can't watch i can't watch a video or a thing like that i i can't i can listen to music but i can't watch yeah you can't watch yourself dance no can you watch yourself dance well i've seen it well here's the thing i don't do you want to see though that's the i mean yeah i've seen it but i don't know if i want to see myself all right like it's not not even it's not specifically dance it's just like it's play and moves yeah yeah and but because i'm supposed to be funny it's fine but he's supposed to be sexy and cool yeah but his stance is it's gonna be sexier it's gonna be sexier than your dancing hair yeah yeah there's nothing i can do that's gonna dance as cool or even guitar moves it's all in the hips yeah it is You know, that realization.

29:18When I was 13, I went to the eighth grade prom and all those boys were sort of holding up the wall. Yeah. You know, and I wanted so bad to dance with Sheree Dunham.

29:29Bobby Lee:We love a Sheree Dunham. Yeah. Over there? That one's yours right there. I feel like they also love a Sheree Dunham. Yeah, yeah. You like Sheree Dunham, don't you? I love Sheree Dunham. And all the girls were dancing in the center of the thing and I said, fuck it, I'm going to do this. And I said, come on, I've tried to get someone to go with me. the girls were dancing and i just said fuck it and i just started shimming out there and i probably looked about as you know restuperdick lame as you could look yeah right you know you committed but i was it was too late yeah you're out you can't go back no you got to go deeper yeah so i went deep and i did sheree and these girls they're all dancing together they turn around they start laughing but it was like a cute kind of giggle and it was and i and i kept so I just added more to it like hey I think even I'm probably lying about this part but who cares let's say I wasn't I'm pointing around yeah yeah there's Germany that's South America whatever yeah yeah Antarctica wait that's wherever that is well whatever science says it is yeah and I went out but I realized their laughter was like like they started saying come out here yes yes ever since then I was always like I'm, I'm, goddammit, I'm gonna, I'm gonna dance.

30:47Bobby Lee:Who was your, who was your Sheree Dunham? Mine? Yeah, who was yours? My Sheree Dunham was, um. I can tell you. Well, I'm gonna say something. What? Why are you? I got one on the tip of my. No, I got one. Megan Stallard. Mine's a Megan too. Yours is? Megan Briscoe. Megan Stallard. And I'll tell you, she never did anything with me. No, yeah, neither did mine. But I'll tell you what song came out. What? When I found out that she didn't like me. Nothing Compared to You by Senator Conner. What a song. And I remember I had a fucking Honda Civic. Sure you did, yeah, that makes sense. Well, I'm Korean.

31:18Bobby Lee:That math out. What? Well, you didn't have a Hyundai. And I didn't have a back then. They didn't have it. Yeah, I would have been in a Hyundai. You would if they had it. Yeah. Oh, you would have country committed? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You would have backed it. You have to, yeah, you have to country commit. You have to. Yeah, yeah. As an Asian, they have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really weird if they don't. Yeah. So anyway, when Nothing Compared to You came out, I love sinking into sad music. Oh, yeah. I do, too. Do you? Oh, yeah. That's what it's for. Yes. Especially for all that stuff when you don't know how to say how you're feeling or you're unwilling to try.

31:54And, like, nothing compares to you, that song. Oh, yeah. You've got to be kidding me with that song. Yeah. I don't know what some of it means, like, Bubba. Yeah, Bubba. Who's Bubba? It's not Bubba. What is it? It says Mama. Really? Yeah, it's not Bubba. Bubba would be like - Wait, wait, wait. It's gotta be Bubba. It's Mama.

32:16Bobby Lee:It's Mama. So you think - Wait, I just - Wait, wait, wait, wait. I need to ask a question. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I need to ask a question. You think, you thought until now, it was all the flowers that you planted Bubba. Now, I want an answer. That's what I thought it was. Oh, my God. Because you thought Bubba was just some hillbilly. All the flowers that you planted Bubba. That's what I thought it was and in my mind always I'm like Bubba must have been the boyfriend of the guy that her No, no, that's the gardener Bubba the gardener Bubba the gardener Planted all the flowers In the overalls Oh, right Your flowers are done Oh, you've never done that where you thought the lyric was one thing and now I do it all the time Thank you I'm just focusing on you Yeah, we're fucking with you Alright, thank you, Josh, for correcting me It's Mama I think it's very cute that you thought that it was Bubba Thank you.

33:10Because mama would have been a logical jump. Easy. But you're like, fuck all that shit. Yeah. I'm going to Bubba's house. Bubba's house, baby. Well, she's Irish. I thought Bubba was a term. In Ireland? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey there, Bubba. Have a drink with me, Bubba. I'm Irish and I can tell you that Bubba's not a thing. It says by Sinead O 'Connor, but it's not. It's written by Prince. It's by Prince, yes. What is that? What's wrong? Why is it? That's some Wikipedia shit right there. That's some fucked up shit. But did she - That's how you know not to trust whatever the fuck. Maybe it is Bubba.

33:42See, it is Bubba. These lyrics are wrong. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. I knew that Prince wrote it. You did. And he wrote it. Maybe it was like an urban thing.

33:49Bobby Lee:Okay. What's up, Bubba? Yeah. I like music. We sung a song before you came in. I didn't even get to talk about the song. But it's called Put Me Down Easy. Ooh. And it's by... Is it about a dog? Sing it. Sing it to see if Josh knows what it is. That's insane. I'm not going to fucking sing in front of him. now sing it in front of him yeah sing it guys don't fight over me i'll go to but look it up this is what's fascinating about it because when i first heard the song i was it's a great song it's beautiful but i like soul songs that sound happy but are sad yeah that's one of my favorite things so the music and the melody is kind of uplifting but then you read the words and you go dark as fuck i love it so this song was written by lc cook none other than sam cook's brother don't make it rougher and don't make me suffer put me down easy put me down easy that's hard such a beautiful i said that's just like you know that's begging for mercy yeah and honestly things like mercy those topics are the things i love the most to sing about sing about yeah because they're so tragic fragile so you know and real though they're so yeah everyone you hear that everyone it's a universal feeling of like when you're going to get broken up with or someone's going to go away in your life you like that feeling you know that's coming.

35:03Bobby Lee:Oh my God. Everyone's felt that. I don't care who you are, where you're from, what you're done. And so yes, this is the kind of shit I'll cry to if I really want to get hit. Yeah. I like about Mercy too. You are. You're a Mercy boy. I love Mercy too. Let me ask you, is it hard to write lyrics? No, I mean, no, because I mean, imagine all the albums. Hold on one second. Did everyone just have a flashback to Chris Farley talking to Paul McCartney? When you write songs, is it songs that you write when you write them? Are they songs? that's what you just said no that was a legit I think it was a legit now fuck him you suck get a real question what I'm saying is it hard to write jokes yes that's an annoying question oh all right no but I I the reason I actually like this question don't do this can I rephrase it no you don't need to okay thank you Josh I think I think fuck you dude you're humiliating I'm a fuck a fan you're okay yeah all right all right I think it is extremely difficult sometimes thank you i find it i find it challenging because i would like to say something especially as the year is going i really want to say something vulnerable in sort of in words that are kind of juicy and colorful and economical like i wanted to and some things are actually hard sometimes you write words or you write jokes that you're like ah can i actually say this we do that we say it we just will say it unfortunately yeah all the fucking time you know yeah i i'm i'm because i want to say something and and i actually want someone to i want a certain group of people to be annoyed or upset by what i said oh yeah oh right in in the manner in which you say it you know yeah well how about this tell me it was a good question i'm just teasing i love you what's okay i let it go okay this is artist this is artist self-stroke stuff but i do want to know in your opinion whether or not it was the like universally received in that way what's the song that you wrote that you're like that's the best song i've ever written where you're like it's no doubt in people like there's jokes we talk about this sometimes comics will write a joke and it's not our best joke to them right but i'm like that's so i love that joke and they may think it's they think another thing is funnier you know i think you get familiar with something and so you're and you're i mean i'll it's not exactly the answer to what you're saying but our our biggest song no one knows i don't get sick of playing that ever I find that annoying when people say, well, we're not going to play this anymore.

37:29I think it's somehow, I love our audience, even though I hate groups of people. Yeah, I get it. We get it. We can't fucking stand these guys in the window. I'm just highly suspect of not just them, but yes, them. But I'm highly suspect of groups of people. Dangerous. It feels like the mob. Yeah. And I know that we're asking for groups of individuals, which doesn't make any sense. I would like a bunch of, but I would like a few people from each clique. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we just played in Madison. Do you ever go to Madison to do shows? Love. Madison, Wisconsin? Fucking love it. It's one of the best cities ever.

38:12It's one of the best cities in America, hands down. And our audience is so bananas. It was like a grandpa, the grandson, fucking goth girls. Fucking love goth girls. And then tweakers, bikers, hippies, college kids. It was such a hometown buffet. Oh, wow. You know? Yeah. And I just thought, oh my God, this is the type of group I like. Perfect.

38:41Bobby Lee:It's like a picking of all of the people. So I have a couple of dumb questions I can ask before I forget. No, for Josh, I have a couple of questions, if I may. Please, please, please. Okay. If I may. They're dumb questions. It's very cute. It's going to be better than the writing one, the questions. It was an intro question. Right. Yeah. You're starting. All right. So when... Come on. Let me... I want to be cool, dude. Yeah, you're doing it. You're doing great. When you're playing Austin City Limits with them crooked vultures. Yeah. And you're with Grohl and... What's Bonham? Is that his last name from Led Zeppelin?

39:15John Paul Jones John Bonham John Paul Jones you're on stage in your head do you know who you're on stage do you get nervous around John Paul Jones he's a legend it's funny because you're sitting on the bus and Dave's telling a story and then you realize it's about Nirvana and then and then Jones is telling a story and you realize it's about Led Zeppelin it's the only other band he's been in wow that's it's insane and uh and then it sort of comes to me and i was like well i've been arrested in fact on the second day on the second day of the them crooked vulture session i was it was the first day of recording you know i didn't know jones well um and this is how we got very close was uh i was driving home in burbank my studio was in burbank at the time and uh the burbank police call themselves the cowboys they do which is kind of gay but whatever okay so gay well this is you're under arrest well he told me in the back of the squad car he's like we call ourselves the cowboys and i just told him i was like that's the gayest thing and i don't care but I'm just saying, guess what it is.

40:39I don't care. Any hoodles. I'm driving home and I had a Magnum. Remember the Dodge Magnum? That looked like a wagon. It's such a fucking great car. Anyways, so I'm driving home and I get pulled over because I guess I had put the wrong - Sticker on the - Registration. I switched the registration. So I had two cars. And he starts getting me out and cuffing me. For illegal registration? he's like i'm gonna i'm gonna yeah i at the time i didn't know that when someone says i'm gonna detain you for my safety that i could have been i could have said there's no fucking way yeah yeah fuck you i didn't do anything dude and i had you know i had some vicodin on me but i had a script i had a back injury i had but they were just tucked in my coin pocket and so he took me to jail and i was like you're making a mistake here you know you're making a mistake and and he's like no I'm not we call ourselves the Cowboys and that's when I that's when I made it worse right what would you do I just told him okay okay right right and then and I was like why do I care what you call yourselves he's like he's like wait you see us ride horses and suck each other's dicks and then yeah and then he was like as he was driving I said uh he said don't I know you from somewhere and I was like I don't know what you know you know like no that's what you drop who you are.

42:01No, but that makes me feel like shit. I just can't do stuff like that. That's not my way. Do you think I would say something? Would you? No, wait, wait. Would you? Yeah, yeah.

42:11Bobby Lee:Do you think I would say something? Would you? Would you say? The first words out of his mouth. I'm a comedian. It's me. It's Bobby Lee. That's what it is. Right away. Within seconds. Would you? Boys. You know what I would. Look at the window. Look at the window. You know you would. Oh, you know what I've done? Out the window. Oh, you know what I've done? And I'm going to tell you what I've done. Josh okay I don't give a fuck okay like for instance if I don't have my ID right at an airport I'll just say google me he does that he does that often does it work oh yeah it does okay well why couldn't you have done that just google my name I just I'd rather go to jail that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying why your pride he has dignity that's not dignity that's not dignity that's dumb but then he says to me he goes don't I recognize you from somewhere else I don't know what you know you know such a combative statement yeah yeah and and and he said are do you play music and i said yeah and he was like why didn't you tell me and i was like because i didn't know you're a fucking asshole you know that would like i'm already arrested right late what are you gonna do right double arrest but he still took you to prison oh yeah oh my god a night in burbank and that there was this like heavyset mexican guy which was kind of bullying these other people around He wanted to lay down on the, he wanted to lay down and everyone else to stand up.

43:33So I just sat down on the, and he moved this kind of little scrawny kid that was clearly a tweaker. Trust me, I know.

43:46So, and I said, why don't you just chill out? And then he got up and he was a pretty heavy set dude. and he said some shit to me. So I just said, what are you going to do? Like hit me with your fat. I don't know what you're going to. Oh my God. Josh, what the fuck? And then escalate, escalate, escalate. Why? But he wasn't because he was not scary. Oh, okay. He's just hungry.

44:09Bobby Lee:Also being a fucking asshole. Okay. Okay. He was bullying this kid. I was like, let him sit down, but it's your size. There's not a much room. four, you can't do that. You're the guy he was bullying. He's talking about. Oh yeah. Yeah. He was like, get up. and you were like, no problem. Yeah, that's okay. Go ahead. And so he's justice. Well, I would not have let that happen. I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm not a tough guy, but I was just like, this is ridiculous and we're in here. What are you going to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Okay. And then this window opens and this really gnarly looking gal, she was like, I will mace both of you if you move.

44:42And I was like, I believe you. Like, I don't not believe you right now. I know you're saying stuff and I hear this stuff and I'm interested in what you're saying. And so I just didn't move. And he looked at me and he was like, under his breath. And so I just blew him a kiss and everyone got to sit down. But it was, and we ate bologna sandwiches and talked about times. It was fine. It all worked out. It was fine. When was this? This was the first night of the Vultures recording session. So then I go into the recording session the next day and i've been up all night jones is there dave's there and i walk in i'm a little disheveled in the same clothes because i wasn't gonna i didn't want to be late so proper well i like it fuck the cowboys i will be on time well that's the you know i just i don't know that's that's me no i i so i go there and jones says what happened and i said i'm i just got out of jail and he goes, oh, like this.

45:51He's clutching his pearls. And he goes, oh, and I thought he was gonna be a little disgusted. He's like, oh, let me make some tea, tell me all about it. And I realized that he made me tea. I realized he's kind of a goth dude himself. He's like a little bit of a dark lord. Wow. And the wilder I got, the more he was like, wow, which was good. Earl Grey tea, English breakfast? English breakfast. kiss.

46:16Bobby Lee:It's my favorite guy. Do you put milk in your English breath kiss? You know what, guys? I needed a line reading. Sometimes when I act, I fuck up the line, and they give me another shot. I'll just take English breath kiss, please. Girl, grey or English breakfast? If I'm honest, my little son always said breath kiss. So I say breath kiss no matter what. That was not me. Thank you, Josh. You don't, you know. I have other questions. Swearsies. that I memorized. I don't know if that answered your question. That was a great question. No, no, no. I mean, there's other questions. It's just, I mean, you could have.

46:51By the way, I showed my script and they dropped all the charges. Oh, really? Wow. Hell yeah. Take that, Cowboys. Over there, Cowboys.

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49:59That's not... I just... Look, I feel really... Am I the weird one? No. Be honest. Am I the weird one? To each his own. Okay, thank you. I think to each his own. I just never planned to be doing this this long. And I feel like someone's going to ring my doorbell and say, yeah, the music's done. It's over. And I would be like, I would say, that was a really long time though. Yeah. And then I would grab my shit and I would get out of there. We talk about, every day I say, are we done yet? Yeah. Or you know what sometimes I'll say? I go, I think I'm done. And I kind of look at my assets and go, where can I go?

50:42It's about showing your assets again. No, no, no. It's about my asshole. Dude, I do not want to see your assets. No, no, you'll never see it. One day you will. No, I'm going to. When we get closer, you will. I'm going to see it. I think you will. I want to see it. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to see it now. Because you will if you want it. No, I want it prepped. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to be too judgy, but I want it prepped. Should we get it over with and just do it now? Yeah, okay. We'll just do it now so we get it over with. Is it kind of prepped? What? Is it kind of prepped? It's a little dirty.

51:08Hold on, let me get my glasses. Hold on, let him put on his glasses. Jesus. He didn't even get to put on his glasses. You know, I'm no doctor. I'm no doctor. But also, I'm not a doctor. So, my other question is this. Nurse, you're right. Maybe if I was arrested, I shouldn't bring up my name. No, you will.

51:28Bobby Lee:I know you. You would in a heartbeat. But that's okay. And if you're jailed, don't show your asshole. Don't do that. Okay. All right. Don't do that. Just eat the bologna sandwich. Okay. Just eat the bologna sandwich. Let's eat a few things straight. All right. Yeah. Just eat it and be quiet. My second question would be - Eat it and be quiet is a great - Eat it and be quiet. What a great thing to say in a general sense. Yeah. Eat it, be quiet. Yeah. My second question would be, because I've been following you for a very long time. I saw you outside my house. Yeah. And I noticed over the years, you've always been around comedy.

51:59Because I remember back in the day, I used to see you at Largo. Yeah. You mean on Monday nights and stuff, right? So you always surround yourself with comedy. You know what I mean? I see you at the store. I see you at clubs and stuff. What is it about comedy that you're a huge fan, obviously? Yeah. When I was nine, in that year in which I was nine, I saw two separate shows of the desert and I saw my old man, we were with my grandparents. No one ever swore in my family, you know, around each other. And my dad was like, George Carlin is funny, right? And I was like, I don't know, I'm nine. I think it was rhetorical.

52:39But I got this giant yellow, it looked like I won a golf tournament, men's jacket that they loaned to you. So here I was like a small child than an adult man's world. And we had great seats, like third row. Wow. And it was tables back then. And I saw Fred Travolina, or was it Fred Travolina? Or Judy Tenuta. Judy Tenuta. Open for George Carlin. Wow. And it changed my life because I realized all in this moment that talking about things that hurt and are difficult and laughing about it, that gallows humor. And, you know, George was, as I don't have to tell you anything, but his use of language, like, you know, get on the plane, Mr.

53:26Carlin. Fuck you. I'm getting in the plane. Leave that for the daredevils. Yeah. That twisting of words and using them correctly. Yeah. And the notion of being a good communicator. We're talking. It's important. It's so hard to be understood and to understand someone in this life. It's so fleeting. and so being a good communicator and being good with your words start really meant something to me from that moment forward you know and also i saw rodney dangerfield with fred travelina opening and ronnie got booed off stage now i had never i didn't know that that was possible that the crowd could be like fuck this yeah that's enough of this and chase you off stage it's your fucking show yeah but he was doing the same stuff which i had grown up with watching carson and you know yeah and uh when that was happening how did you feel when he was being booed off i was scared yeah scared because i was little and i and i thought oh my god something's gonna happen what's what does it mean what does this mean and i think that's why i've always had a very attack um style with the audience it's softened over the years but i I grew up on Iggy Pop and all this stuff where concerts were scary.

54:39You go to punk rock shows, they're scary.

54:41Bobby Lee:That's that mob thing you were talking about, though. It is very much like I just did a show last night, and it was a lot of people. 19 ,000. It wasn't my show. 19 ,000. It was fucking great, though. 19 ,000 people. Well, Shane Gillis. Shout out to Shane, not me. But I popped up on his show. But you do have a moment. You're prepared. We've been doing it for a long time. Was that in town? No, it was in San Jose. Oh. but you'd feel you're like prepared for it you're excited to do your shit but there is a second that you get on stage and see all those people and you're like yeah they can turn on you yeah they if if they're if you're not you have to be on your toes leaning into them yes they have to be on their heels so i got booed off a stage in front of 16 17 000 people where in san jose not during your show last night but yeah what are the chances i don't remember that at all like why is that even a real thing.

55:31It was probably like 15 years ago. It was Chappelle. Big Asian community in the stand. It was big Asian community there too. Yeah, but this show was called the Doghouse Comedy Jam. That's all Asians. And it was Chappelle, Cat Williams. It was a food thing? Carlos Mencia. And I, so Leslie Jones when she was young was before me. And she jumped off the stage and she dry humped of like a 16 year old white kid in the audience. That's your bit. What?

56:00Not with her butthole. And you could hear the walls shaking. Oh, she's crushing. She was crushing that hard. Yeah. And I looked at... When someone's hard to follow, yeah. Yeah, I looked at Jeff Wills, you know what I mean? The guy, you know what I mean? At Live Nation. Yeah. And I go, you think it's gonna go well for me? Because I don't think so. Right? Right? And he goes, you'll be fine. Two minutes in, they just booed me offstage. And then I started doing gibberish. I started going, I gotta... Right? And then I literally just turned around. I started to cry. Like starting a Honda. Yeah.

56:37And I walked off stage and still to this day, I don't know what I did wrong. You didn't do anything. I think it was just doomed from the beginning. Well, some things can only get so high and then they must drop off the cliff. That's right. We played a, what's it called? Neil Young had this thing, bridge school benefit. And the request is everyone must play acoustic. That's fine. Yeah. Happy with that. So it's two nights in a row. Played the first night, killed it, had a blast. And then the second night, the lineup changed, and the person playing in front of us directly asked for that slot because they wanted to play and leave, but they wanted it to be dark.

57:18They wanted it to be nighttime. Can you name this person? The person was Tom fucking Waits. Wow. So, and I said, okay, that sucks yeah and I love it when people try to reassure you that don't know what they're talking about

57:36Bobby Lee:oh it's gonna be fine man oh yeah yeah that sounds like you on the

57:43yeah yeah yeah

57:44Bobby Lee:what's coming up what's coming up and I was like I foolishly watched him play as well and he's going he starts a song and then he'll be like what you know I'm only he'd stop I'm only doing this because I owe Neil money you know it's like a comedy routine a show, vaudeville, all wrapped up into one fucking enormous dildon't. Because I don't want to follow the hat. How long did you have to do it for, the set? Too long. It was probably like 40 minutes. You closed it? We kept... We were like second from the top or third from the top or something. And after us was Crosby, Steele's, Nash, and Young.

58:27where it was like we were the the cream filling in a terrible cream filling right yeah double stuff from hell that was just not yeah what am i supposed to do yeah yeah yeah you know i just you know so even you guys have bad we're playing deep cuts all right i gotta play something different every night i can't fucking i can't i can't i'll fucking lose it and so we can't play what killed the night before because that's the night in case there's repeat there could be five repeat people and well they need to see something else yeah and i i actually i love insurmountable odds you know i so that's why we're not really a metal band we're not really an alternative band but i'll play any i'll play anywhere especially if i'm not supposed to be there even even more even more uh titillating

59:19Bobby Lee:to be where you're not supposed to be. A little bit. Or doing something, you know, like last night, Chris O 'Connor, you know, my boy. Yeah. He, you know, he knows that when he does this joke and I'm not doing, I'll never, I don't want to do somebody else's joke, but he knows when he does it, they're going to be pissed off because of the core of it. He says, it's very brilliantly written, but he says in some way or another that like it's a fuck Trump, a little bit of a fuck Trump thing, but he knows that that audience is going to boo him. Right. And 19 ,000 people did. But he's smiling and it's fucking unreal.

59:54Bobby Lee:Wow. It was the funniest. I think it's powerful. Oh, it was so rad. Yeah. Because he's cracking up. He's laughing audibly as they're booing. And then it in turn made them laugh after the booing. Because he's enjoying it. No, it was perfect. Wow. I told him, I was like, dude, that's the fucking coolest shit. Because he was like, yeah, you're going to be mad at this. And then he goes into it. And I'm thinking, oh, he's just going to tell this joke, this good joke. But then when he starts taking the shots, because he just wants to he wants to feel the thing. Yeah. Right. I think this is why I'm to your original question.

1:00:26I think this is why I love comedy so much. And I look at it as it's it's really it's it's the you know, the gallows humor about the philosophy and difficulties of life. Right. And so I see this value. I love the sort of comedy renaissance that's been happening. where all you guys have done so well, you know, because I think it's, it's important that this is big and is a feature and is, it's such a different night out to just going out to something like that. I like to be a fan of things. I like to love the things I love and just enjoy them. And, and I always would go to Largo cause I was doing, I'd be the only musician doing benefits with a bunch of comedians, you know, because I don't, I don't take myself that seriously i take what i do seriously but i don't really that means i don't need to take myself seriously you know and so um i just think uh and i think a lot of you know so i've known a lot of comedians for a lot of years you know and i think there's a little overlap i know a bunch of

1:01:27Bobby Lee:comedians that want to be musicians you know oh my god yeah some of them are good well how about this every this is a bad theory i'm not going to articulate it well but every comic wishes they we're a rock star and every rock star kind of has a little comic in them yeah it's like you have this weird crossover and you see it when you go to largo because a lot of times there's pairing with comics musicians well you i've been in bands you've never been in a band i i was i played with friends but we were never a band yeah yeah when i played when we were young but i was we were so bad we were like we can't show anybody this i'm not kidding we literally shout out adam nicholas we should go to his mom's house and i was like we were so fucking bad we just didn't care yeah Because we weren't doing it.

1:02:09Bobby Lee:We didn't want to make music because we were going to go show it to someone. But isn't that the key, though? I think, you know, music is interesting because it's a bit like bowling. Like, you don't need to be good to enjoy it. Yeah, just doing it. It was just fun. We thought it was fun. But we were very self-aware because my mom sometimes would be like, are you guys still practicing? I was like, yeah, we're jamming. That's because she wanted you to stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she was very honest. Did you stop practicing? what if we didn't have drums here anymore yeah my dad was my dad was actually very rad they were both rad about it but my dad didn't give a fuck he was like whatever dude fucking smack the shit he didn't he couldn't care less i think when you're doing that you're not doing something else well we weren't doing drugs and getting in trouble yeah well we were doing drugs and playing music but we weren't getting arrested i think because i was doing all those things yeah until a couple years ago yeah yeah yeah that that um it is certainly like a healthy exit strategy.

1:03:06And honestly, in my family, it's like when something difficult will happen, it would be like, we'll cry and be upset later, but we don't have time for that now. There's things to do. And I respect that and I appreciate that. That's Irish, by the way. That's Irish in a nutshell. We'll cry about that when everybody's dead and gone. Yeah. First, we got to bury this body. There's no time for that shit. There's no time to cry. Right. And so I turn out the lights so everyone can conspire, make out, fuck, party, hang, do whatever. And because I think escapism is a devalued commodity. So these things where they're under the guise of escapism, but you're really getting these lyrics that are vulnerable and real, or you're getting comedy that's about something real that you should be thinking about.

1:03:53this is the way to the spoonful of sugar that makes the medicine go down to me and so i think escapism should be elevated you know yeah i like that escapism is pretty powerful i mean i

1:04:07Bobby Lee:you say it so profoundly but like i do love the biggest pet peeve for me i mean we talk about it is when there's a lot when there's light in the room i really get a little shaky yeah and so like i just shot a special and one of the biggest things that we had to deal with was the lighting lighting it was lighting and so uh but is it the same with the 19 000 because it's the spots of the thing oh we pitched i mean again that's shane's show so like his lighting package was whatever he wanted but it's it's what i would have done too it's like it was it was are you okay no you guys you know i've never done i'm doing a special too why for hulu not this is his first my first one why is why because i'm doing it now okay i'm doing it now yeah okay yeah yeah josh i'm doing it now It was just a Y.

1:04:48Yeah, it's called Finally. My special's gonna be called Finally. Yeah, that makes sense. Great name. I can't believe you're announcing this. So I'm now, because I'm now, textures and lighting. There goes my album title. That's it. You know, I shouldn't have fucking told you. I know. I did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It's like baby names. So I'm learning now about what I want. I think I want it dark, but I also want the audience around me. You want to be surrounded. I kind of want them there. Sure. You know what I mean? where I'm kind of, in a theater, can you do that? Yeah, of course. You can do whatever you want.

1:05:19You can set up in the middle. They'll build it. There's places you could. Yeah, yeah, where I can just have them stacked around me as well. Yeah. But there's also some of these specials like Maria Bamford, some of her stuff where it's so small. Oh, yeah. Sarah's done something in Largo that was really tiny too. Maria did her parents' house one time. I love her. I mean, it was in her mom's living room. I fucking love her. Yeah, me too. I'm mental illness on display in such a beautiful way. Yeah. and the voices. Yeah, she's incredible. She's fucking incredible. As a musician, are you afraid of AI?

1:05:53I don't use AI. And today, I heard the guy from Google, the head guy from Google AI quit. And he had this, it really bummed me out. Normally, I don't get bummed out by things like this. Yeah, but this already sounds like it's going to be a bummer. It's a bummer. It's a bummer.

1:06:09Bobby Lee:It's a bummer because he got scared of the future and he was like - Yeah, and he was like, we're now the second smartest thing on the planet. We've made this algorithm and it knows how to solve things we don't understand. And he said something like 150 million people need to die to turn it off. I was like, holy fuck. And I don't know. Well, let's go through which country could die, I guess. 150 million. Well, I was like, do we start in Fresno? I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. Not California. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I actually like Fresno, too. Yeah, I do, too. Yeah, I like Fresno a lot. It's a great theater there with a good audience.

1:06:38I'm trying to think of a place.

1:06:39Bobby Lee:Yeah, not Fresno. How do we get rid of 150 million? Where are you playing? San Diego. No, no, no. San Diego's great. I don't know, dude. Countries by population. Don't do Madison. In Asia, they have enough. Okay. There's chunks of Asia we can get. They have enough. Yeah, yeah. In Asia, they have enough. Are you going to take this? You have enough Asians? Okay, how about this? There is a lot of Asians. What if we just knock out Brazil? If we just knock out Brazil? No, it's soccer, soccer, soccer, soccer. About Pakistan. Big butts. Pakistan. No, no, no, no, no. They have nukes. They have nukes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:07:09Bobby Lee:What about the first one? What's the first one say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. China. billion that's way more than we need how about every country we that's how we negotiate dude it's way we we need you've got a small fraction of no 10 every so china 10 yeah we do a deal that's fair fair yeah yeah 10 india 10 us united states 10 indonesia yeah yeah we're good 10 % we're good there yeah just 10 people oh that's there's enough country and we get to choose yeah that's like you gary get over here no fuck really yeah dude it's your time but in terms of like you You know, sometimes I'll just do a playlist and an AI band will appear.

1:07:46I mean, are you scared of it replacing music? Someone sent me some dirty Elton John stuff that AI had done and I found it staggeringly too good. Yeah, it's scary. You know, I'm hoping, my grandpa always had this saying, if you can't outsmart them, out dumb them. And I think I sort of extrapolated that for music, if you can't outsmart them, out weird them. and so I hope that when I'm out dumbing and out weirding that I'm more stupider and more weirder than AI would naturally go hopefully it's shooting high and I can just keep going low go way low what is this?

1:08:25Bobby Lee:is this an AI band? some of the new AI bands that have creeped up on my playlist Paper Sun Rebellion well that's clearly an AI name yeah that's fucking terrible I know Paper Sun Rebellion and they have 370 ,000 monthly listeners are you fucking kidding me holy shit but I mean what fucking is listening to that shit you know what I mean what the fuck so somebody that's the band oh my god they're so hot look at there's one of each look at the sort of like book reader in the middle you know there's the Mike Mills like a hiredly one then the drummer on the far right drummer's far right and the guy clearly the piano player yeah yeah the the blonde guy is this is like the luke wilson theory where you're like he's not handsome is he that's what that is yeah he's tom petty's nephew yeah yeah that's right right right and the front man is obviously like this perfect front homogenization of fucking like every you what is he everything yeah he's just all the stuff let's see i can't stand music that's like that either where there's like a rap verse and this and then it goes over the like who are you trying to i think you can't try to impress the goal is to try to be yourself right and this is such a deliberate look at that look at that now look at the old school gear plus the computer that that's exactly my fucking problem yeah yeah yeah my fucking problem with all this bullshit it's bullshit yeah is that it's like give we'll give them a little of everything it's like look at Stephen Hawking.

1:10:03You're not giving anyone anything. But they won't replace live, though. And that's right. I mean, AI can't replace it. Well, here come the holograms. Although, I hear the ABBA thing is fucking amazing. Is it? I hear it is from people that I actually like. That's scary. I don't like that.

1:10:17Bobby Lee:Well, we have, you know, Howie Mandel has that technology. You know the technology they used for Tupac at fucking Coachella years ago? Yeah. Howie Mandel owns that tech at his studio. You've seen it, right? Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. Because he can touch a hologram without getting any German. Yeah, exactly. he hugs holograms i've been fingering that uh tupac one i didn't get anything on me which is so different than your butthole where it's covered yes yes tupac ain't nothing but a gangster party yeah that's the most gangster thing ever it's fucking so gross and weird and creepy and but he's i saw it and it fucked me up man it's it's so look at that unfortunate picture though of abba and their suits wow that that didn't need to be commemorated they don't they They look like velvet sundown rebellion.

1:11:02Paper, paper echoes of dust, yeah. Wow.

1:11:05Bobby Lee:I don't know. Why did they take that fucking photo? I'd have been like, no, we're not fucking taking this photo. Yeah, like put this one out. I look depressed. Sweden's cool. Yeah. That's so - Go back, was that them in AI? That's them in AI. Wow. Looking fine as fuck. Not looking like the other photo. No, no. Yeah, yeah. Looking rather spelled. God, that's so fucking weird. AI don't like that. Yeah, no, man. But we have to find a way to - Well, it's here. That's the thing. I think the biggest thing I've been working on my whole life is just accepting what is and not trying to - You're just not in control.

1:11:44What can you do? I know.

1:11:46Bobby Lee:You know what we do? We do the same thing that you do, what you reference with politics. It's like, well, it's just fucking bullshit. I'm just going to continue to do my own thing anyway. because the less you pay attention to it I have a creepy assumption that it will start to really kind of dissipate if we stop giving it anything then it'll continue to exist but if people don't give it anything anymore it's just going to be its own goal every night I talk to ChatGBT for like five hours a night why do you do that I talk to her right now have you ever talked to ChatGBT no I don't own it I don't have it I'm actually really proud I still don't have it so I'll do this I'm good I don't want to know this stuff I don't know.

1:12:23Hey, has Arsenal signed any forwards yet? What's her name? I don't know yet. I haven't named her. But she's named herself, I can guarantee. Why is she clicking? What is it? It's African. African AI, that's what it stands for. African intelligence.

1:12:39Bobby Lee:Do you want to know about Arsenal's new forwards? I don't want to know. All right. So you're not gonna promote anything, but - No, okay. We played in the catacombs in Paris. Yes. We're the first people to ever do it. So cool. And it just came out. Awesome. And if you'd like to, you can check it out. If not, it's cool. Okay. I went to the catacombs one time in sketchy Italy. Why can't I think? Rome. No, no, no. Sketchier. Way sketchier. Napoli. Napoli. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right. I went to the catacombs in Napoli and the guy was like, hey, man, go during the... It is true. Isn't that insane that you guessed that?

1:13:19I can't believe that. No, but that's the city. That would be the city. Dude, it's awesome. I love night.

1:13:24Bobby Lee:The guy was like, hey, man, when you, oh, San Gennaro, that's it, right? And the guy goes, when you go there, he's like, go during the day. And I was like, why? You could go at night? Yeah, you can go at night. Oh, wow. They light it up. And he's like, when you go there, go during the day. And I was like, why? He's like, well, it's in a pretty tough neighborhood. And I'm thinking, there's a piece of me that's like, oh, man, dude, I'm fucking, I've lived in cities my whole life. Like, I'll be okay. And for sure, when it got dusk, I was with my wife and I was like. I kind of like it like that a little.

1:13:49Bobby Lee:we're we're we're this is is this bad yeah we're gonna get fucking robbed and she was like genuinely nervous i was like getting your wallet taken is only the beginning yeah that's how it starts yeah but that that in those regions i kind of feel like sexy dirty yeah i feel alive you know i'm ready to roll fuck yeah i think as a former druggie it's like that's that's my comfort you want a little a little bit of uneasiness to it yeah yeah because like when you go to a museum it's it's so sterile that you're it's it's almost it's just hard to like get engaged sometimes There's too many people on a stale and bright and boring.

1:14:20Bobby Lee:This was like creepy and dark and very weird. I also think that, you know, I love museums, but I can only do three hours or something like that. Oh, I'm in and out. And because it's such an exalted thing you're looking at, it can be hard to relate to. You go to the catacombs, it's what you will be. Yeah, it's your own experience. And, you know, I just saw this movie 28 years later. What, would you like it? It was interesting. It was a different take than I was expecting. but there was one part that was really there was a memento mori all these skulls and all this stuff the one thing that was interesting that's the Paris one and that's where we played in these locations you're seeing I wouldn't want my skull to be in a nice place yeah we'll get you up front in the circle like there I want mine there right in the center see that one on top that'll be you it'll be flat you'll know and i'll bury your i'll bury your butthole somewhere deep okay good thank you thank you it is it is scary it's it's there's something about it that's like uh not scary it's it was shocking to me how still it felt yeah i wasn't freaked out it was very it was almost calm but the calm is what's a little odd that you're like wow this is it should be intense but it was very kind of like i don't even know you know you know it feels like desert nights That's a weird, but you love you from there.

1:15:44Bobby Lee:Yeah. I lived in Arizona. The desert night is so still, but you're also like, yeah, it's something. It's out there. Yeah. Well, I think one of the mainstays of a desert night like that is you feel small. Yeah. The environment is massive. The environment is very dominant. And so there's something of a relief in realizing I'm doing my little part. Yeah. But I'm not as significant. And it makes your little part important. Oh, yeah. And so when I was in there too, that's how I felt. That space is so dominating. Yeah, we played there. Yeah, like there was one moment when I first got in there, I just kind of went off in a corner, got on my knees, put my head down and was like, I promise to try as hard as I can.

1:16:31And I promise to do as good a job as I can. Yeah. And we played songs that was like, what would I want to hear if I was stuck in here? I'd want to hear about my family. I'd want to hear about difficulties, acceptance, and moving on. And so that's what we did. But I felt small in there. You know what I mean? And I kind of cherish those moments to, like I said, I feel blessed to kind of do what we do. So in there, it was like, I know what to do for you. you know and and and and also in those moments i'm like i could just be myself there's nothing else i can i've got nothing else to give you know and so i i kind of i'm looking for the next moment to try to feel that for a second wow you know it's heavy dude yeah and we and we show our butthole on on today's episode yeah the juxtaposition like if you're doing a trailer it's like on tonight's episode.

1:17:28Bobby Lee:I know. Catacombs, buttholes. Josh and Zantino reveal their feelings. Bobby reveals. All right, all right. But Bobby reveals. All right, all right. I regret showing it. You know what? I read it wrong. No, no. Yeah, I thought we were close. It's the window into your feelings. All right, anyway. It's like the glass bottom boat. All right, so Josh, look into the camera and go, thank you for being a bad friend. Thank you for being a bad friend. Woo!

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