Talking Limericks with Louie

10 Nov 2025 · 1 h 15 min · 33 chapters

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In short

Louie Anderson-style “Bad Game Show” chaos transitions into a wide-ranging conversation about dating, identity (especially Korean/Asian experiences), weddings/skate culture, weight-loss meds, and—most centrally—how comedians write and escape “killing” ruts.

Guests

Andrew Santino (comedian/actor; co-host) and Bobby Lee (comedian/actor; co-host). Louie is the focus of the episode’s “Talking Limericks” framing, but the transcript mainly features Santino and Lee discussing Louie’s comedy process and personal stories.

Key claims

Santino says the “family stuff” in comedy lands better than topical/political noise; Lee argues comics should push past fear of bombing by doing bad sets and short “no-act” chunks. Louie describes writing from premises and refining bits through repeated stage testing. They also discuss that restricting food can create binge tension, and that late eating can disrupt sleep.

Notable examples

Airport pickup disputes; a Korean dating story including “Have you eaten?” and “Juk Juk” (sex slang); a skate wedding with skaters like Eric Costin and Sean; Louie’s long-running “piss” opening joke; advice to do 90 seconds with no act to break panic.

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Chapters

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Therapy Talks

0:32 to 1:15

Discussion about therapy experiences and humorous therapist anecdotes.

“You know, one of those scientists, you know, those like, yeah, like FBI, CIA, you know what I mean?”

Dating Life Updates

1:15 to 2:42

Hosts share updates on their dating lives and recent experiences.

“So what, you did Austin, then you did Vegas?”

Cultural Heritage and Dating

2:42 to 4:53

Conversations about mixed heritage and its implications in dating.

“She ghosted me, but then I think she responded because it was easy because I was already back in LA.”

Wedding Experiences

4:53 to 6:04

Hosts recount experiences at recent weddings and the guest dynamics.

“And then they had a tight Hello Kitty shirt for me.”

Skater Culture and Wedding Attire

6:04 to 8:30

Discussion on skater culture and fashion at weddings.

“No, yeah, there was a bunch of cool skaters there.”

Suit Shopping Stories

8:30 to 10:38

Funny anecdotes about shopping for suits and celebrity encounters.

“It was one of those moments where you're like And you know what's so funny about skater weddings?”

Health Discussions and Ozempic

10:38 to 12:50

Discussion on weight loss, health trends, and personal health experiences.

“Dave Franco, a lot of guys that are under 5 '8".”

Philosophical Thoughts on Aging

12:50 to 14:00

Reflection on aging, exercise, and body changes over time.

“I would if it was a good idea, but I don't.”

Philosophy of Eating and Body Awareness

14:00 to 16:30

Explore the relationship between diet, hunger, and body feedback.

“He's still thinking about the old world.”

Cultural Discussions on Identity

16:30 to 18:00

A humorous take on cultural identity and assumptions based on appearance.

“No, what I'm saying is that, because I was curious, does Louis ever date Asians?”
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Language and Cultural Nuances

18:00 to 19:39

A lighthearted conversation about language and cultural expressions.

“and her raised in new jersey and she said that she had like two friends and they are still very close because they felt very isolated.”

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19:39 to 20:53

Promotional segment discussing meal delivery service.

“Fall always feels like a reset between back to school, busier routines, and shorter days.”

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20:53 to 22:10

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22:10 to 23:13

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“Sometimes your little Toki is going to bed and you got to wake him up.”

Navigating Relationships and Airport Dynamics

23:13 to 28:01

Conversations about love, relationships, and the dynamics of picking someone up from the airport.

“But is there one person more like, you know what I mean, obsessed with the other person?”

Texas vs. Maine: A Comedy Bit

28:01 to 29:52

Learn about a comedy bit comparing Texas and Maine, featuring impressions and personal anecdotes.

“We had this bit that I wrote called Texas vs.”

Engaging Family Material in Comedy

29:52 to 31:41

Discover insights on why personal family stories resonate more than general political commentary in comedy.

“I've seen clips of you guys together and stuff.”

Overcoming the Fear of Not Killing

31:41 to 36:20

Explore the struggle comedians face with performance pressure and the importance of evolving material.

“I mean, you're one of those comics that like, if you're performing, like all the comics will run into the room to watch you.”

Overcoming the Fear of Not Killing

38:50 to 40:15

Explore the struggle comedians face with performance pressure and the importance of evolving material.

“We have an online business here at Bad Friends and we use Shopify.”

Overcoming the Fear of Not Killing

40:18 to 40:51

Explore the struggle comedians face with performance pressure and the importance of evolving material.

“Psst, I have a secret that's about to seriously upgrade your downtime.”

Evolving Comedy Through Experience

40:51 to 42:01

Listen to the conversation on the importance of performing without relying on proven material to grow as a comedian.

“I've lost the room and I have to do a joke that I know it's proven or no, you stay in the...”

Louie's Special and Performing Pain

42:01 to 43:34

Louie discusses preparing for his first special and the pain he feels performing old jokes.

“And it's like when I was younger and I was like bombing and I was like trying new things and going what's my voice and all that more fun.”

The Challenge of New Material

43:35 to 45:34

Louie shares his process for developing new material and the struggles of refining bits.

“And every time I said it, it felt like I was pissing out of my own mouth.”

Bits and Cohesion in Comedy

45:35 to 49:48

The comedians discuss the importance of cohesion in sets and how to handle bits that compete.

“not just sit there and go this and have it all in their head.”

Specials and Distribution

49:49 to 52:44

Discussion about the release of comedy specials and the evolution of platforms like Hulu and Netflix.

“His spin was the way people talk in the news then versus now.”

Audiobooks and Performance

52:45 to 56:01

The comedians talk about the challenges of recording audiobooks and the differences in their styles.

“Yeah, I have a pile of books over there.”

Understanding Different Work Styles

56:01 to 57:12

The hosts discuss their contrasting approaches to memorizing lines and rehearsing for performances.

Favorite Scenes and Organic Moments

57:13 to 59:25

They explore memorable scenes from shows, highlighting organic laughter and the creative process behind them.

“If I could do it in the morning, if I read it right before I went there, and then I got one run through, I would be like, okay, I understand what I was doing.”

Collaboration with Louis Anderson

59:26 to 1:03:55

The hosts reminisce about working with Louis Anderson and the impact he had on their projects.

“Did you surprise, was it a surprise when she first heard it or you guys had already?”

Reflections on the Industry

1:03:56 to 1:06:42

They share their thoughts on the entertainment industry, including frustrations with agents and the changing landscape of Hollywood.

“Because the way he did it, that character was fantastic throughout the season.”

On Being Memorable in Comedy

1:07:09 to 1:10:04

Discussion about the importance of being memorable in comedy auditions and performances.

“Did you get like a book deal where they give you a two book deal?”

Comedy Crushes and Inspirations

1:10:04 to 1:12:24

Discover the comedians that the hosts admire and why they inspire them.

“Who's the guy that you really have like a comedy crush on that you're like, oh, I love the fucking way that that person works?”

Appreciation and Farewell

1:12:24 to 1:13:19

The hosts reflect on their guest's impact and share heartfelt thanks.

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Transcript

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0:00Bobby Lee:Hey, I'm Andrew Santino. And I'm Bobby Lee. And we made something completely insane.

0:04Khalyla Kuhn:We took celebrities, we put them in my mom's basement.

0:07Bobby Lee:We throw trivia at them, we hit them with absurd challenges, and then, just when they think they know what's happening, we blow the whole thing apart. Nobody knows the rules, we barely know the rules. It's chaos, it's comedy, it's The Bad Game Show! New episodes drop every Wednesday. Watch on the Bad Friends YouTube channel. Or on the Bad Game Show feed on Spotify Video. Follow, subscribe, watch, share, play along. Have fun. You two are bad friends. Who are these two idiots? White dude and an Asian dude. You two are disgusting. You two are something. We're bad friends.

0:44Khalyla Kuhn:How about you? Do you go to therapy, Carlos? Weekly. You do? Yeah, for seven years. Oh, wow. Yeah. What did your therapist say? He must have had like notepad. You know, one of those scientists, you know, those like, yeah, like FBI, CIA, you know what I mean? Boards. Connect the dots. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a hot girl and she gives me molly. That's not a therapist. Oh, look. It's a stripper you're seeing. Right. This is a sticker for where I go.

1:08Bobby Lee:It's a large mob. Fantastic therapy. What is it called? California what? Center for Psychedelic Therapy. Oh my God. Yeah, it's great. I don't know. That's so embarrassing. So what, you did Austin, then you did Vegas?

1:19Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to a game in Austin, hung my family, then Vegas for a wedding. In Austin, what else did you do there? You're not giving us the details. I know, there's something. There's things going on in your life and we want to know. Well, I did match with a girl recently. Yeah. And it was the girl that we brought on stage in Houston. Ooh. I don't remember her. I don't remember her either. She's kind of Asian-y. Ah. And like... Yeah, but like, it's like 80 % white, 20 % Asian. Oh, that's a good mix. That's a good mix.

1:51Bobby Lee:80 white, 20, so a little Asian.

1:52Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. What does it show? just the eyes are not completely you know there's an angle to them right like a shark like when the eyes were being developed in the wound the Asian

2:08Bobby Lee:you say in the wound it's womb Carlos for years thought it was the wound it's inside your wound that's a vagina Carlos it's a wound I've heard it goes inside your wound

2:19Khalyla Kuhn:but you follow her Bobby I do? Who? Yeah, it's Marissa. Tomei? No, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And did you link up? Bring her up on the thing so I can see what she looks like. We're not going to pull up her name, her last name. No, she ghosted me. Exactly. No, but she followed me on Instagram, so we're doing okay. Okay. You getting ghosted a lot lately? What's going on? Yeah, it's all a numbers game. Yeah, I remember at the show. Yeah. I now remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad became... Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

2:55Khalyla Kuhn:She's cute. Yeah, she's cute. So she ghosted you? She ghosted me, but then I think she responded because it was easy because I was already back in LA. Ah.

3:03Bobby Lee:Oh, she waited until she knew she were gone? Yeah. Smart. Smart girl. It is smart.

3:07Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. So I'm going to try and trap her into a date in Austin. Yeah. I think we should move to the Midwest. Where do you want to go? It's a better dating pool. Oh, it is for sure. Every date I go on here is just like, you want to listen to my EP? No. It's not good. It's not good. It's never good. They don't say EP anymore. Oh, whatever. Oh, do you want to see my paintings? It's never good. What do they say if they don't say EP? What do you mean? They say EP. Yeah, EP. It would be like, go to my SoundCloud or whatever. Okay. It wouldn't be like, here's like a record.

3:37Bobby Lee:Well, I bet you some of the Eastside girls probably are like, Yeah, the Eastside girls are EP.

3:41Khalyla Kuhn:They press it, dude. I didn't know they were pressing.

3:43Bobby Lee:Yeah.

3:44Khalyla Kuhn:Eagle Rock girls? Come on, dude. They be pressing. They be pressing.

3:48Bobby Lee:They absolutely be pressing. Yeah.

3:50Khalyla Kuhn:I mean, that's okay. Okay, so that's the prototype of I think who would I want to marry. Oh, you mean really hot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hot. Really hot. Notice nothing about your past.

4:02Bobby Lee:This has always been your, the mixed Asian thing is your key. That's your key demo. I've dated. You've seen, you've met. I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

4:08Khalyla Kuhn:That's what you love the most. It's, I love it. Yeah, because Kalilah was mixed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Other girls were mixed. Other girls were mixed. You know, I dated some mixies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because full is a lot. It's too much. Well, it's heavy. Yeah. What do you mean?

4:23Bobby Lee:It's heavy. It's heavy. Because if you go meet parents and they're both whites. Yeah. That's a lot of defense you got to play. I know. But if one of them is part of your lineage in any way. Yeah. If you got like the Asian dad, you're like, how you doing?

4:35Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah.

4:35Bobby Lee:You know, like at least you got a little in. But if it's two whites, that's a lot of danger.

4:38Khalyla Kuhn:Also, there's bullying going on. Because like, I remember when I was dating Sarah Highland. She was from Louisville, Kentucky. Our favorite. And we went one dinner. One dinner, I came to the dinner, family dinner. Everyone was wearing kimonos.

4:52Bobby Lee:Well, that's respectful.

4:54Khalyla Kuhn:They were. That's respectful. And then they had a tight Hello Kitty shirt for me. So I put it on. It was really, everyone laughed. That's cute. It is cute, right? But it's like, it would have been nice if there was another Asian there.

5:06Bobby Lee:Yeah.

5:06Khalyla Kuhn:Oh, you're the only one. I was the only one, yeah.

5:08Bobby Lee:Oh, they should have brought another one in. Yeah. Just hire one just to be there.

5:11Khalyla Kuhn:And when the grandma, her grandmother didn't really like me that much. Yeah. But I did a little Asian thing. I have Asian techniques for them to like me. I went to the grand piano And I started playing Because I knew she was in the living room And then I can see her starting to like me Right You got to bring You either do that Or do your taekwondo or something You have to tell them you have Asian skills Right Yeah yeah yeah

5:33Bobby Lee:Get your abacus out of your car

5:37Bobby Lee:Yeah yeah Wait till you see Yeah Dude I was at the wedding last night My good buddy What a fun little beautiful wedding

5:43Khalyla Kuhn:Can I ask you Can I ask you what skaters were there

5:45Bobby Lee:Yes No it was Of course there's skaters Because Sean is a phenomenal skater Eric Costin's one of his closest friends Frosty he's always around

5:52Khalyla Kuhn:Are you nice? I have an Eric Costin story

5:56Bobby Lee:I know Costin I play golf with him a few times Why you don't like Eric?

6:00Khalyla Kuhn:Long time ago I went to a skate party What did you do? What did you do? Nothing and I met someone tried to introduce me to him And he was really cold To me and I remember walking away from that Going I hate that guy He's one of the best but back then I don't know maybe it was because I'm I'm a weird guy yeah you are very weird yeah yeah yeah and you know I you know I come I come to parties you know shifty you know yeah a little shifty I'm a shifty little guy yeah but I remember coming out of what it's very urban like crack yeah I was like what's that man right very funny skates yeah that is crack that's crack nollie huh yeah yeah switch switch switch yeah yeah yeah yeah laser flips dude you love them hard flip dog yeah yeah yeah so like i think maybe it was my shifty vibe yeah but you know sometimes you meet somebody and you know you don't know what people are going through right you don't know what he's you don't know but i always take it personally and i walk away from them going i need revenge yeah may i write down what i'm gonna do because you want to be worshipped that's right praise worship that's what the boy needs what and that's no i know i want to be treated like a human being not true i want to be acknowledged as a human being like a normal celebrity no no no what i'm saying is is that oh oh that hurt gearing him up yeah you got me

7:16Bobby Lee:geared up dad you're gearing him up yeah i know that's why you want to go to the midwest too

7:20Khalyla Kuhn:less competition with celebrity oh he's getting geared up i think that too though i i know what you're thinking gearing up the bobo i'm on raya right yep and a girl's on raya bradley cooper bobby lee which one carlos are you oh yeah you're on there too exactly yeah yeah i gotta say i think

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7:37Bobby Lee:I think Bradley. Just honest. Yeah, I think Bradley. Honest guess.

7:43Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah.

7:44Bobby Lee:Honest guess. No, yeah, there was a bunch of cool skaters there.

7:47Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah.

7:48Bobby Lee:Just guys that like I grew up like loving from when I was, it's just such a weird, it's awesome. It's a weird thing to be friends with guys that you're like, you know, and it was an awesome wedding. It was fucking beautiful. Everyone was so rad and nice. Cause you know, like we don't, I don't know. I don't know his family that well.

8:02Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah.

8:03Bobby Lee:So it was really nice.

8:04Khalyla Kuhn:What's the mix of the family? What do you mean? What is he? Ooh, interesting Filipino?

8:08Bobby Lee:I don't know I'm not gonna tell you

8:09Khalyla Kuhn:Oh Yeah There's some mix though

8:12Bobby Lee:There is a mix

8:12Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah, a brown

8:13Bobby Lee:He's not a fully

8:14Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah, there's a brownie There's some brown in there No? Mm-hmm

8:18Bobby Lee:What are you being so mysterious about? I don't know

8:22Khalyla Kuhn:Okay

8:23Bobby Lee:Yeah, there's a mix

8:24Khalyla Kuhn:There's a mix

8:25Bobby Lee:There's a mix family, yeah It was rad though And everyone was super fucking cool to us And very nice And it was a beautiful wedding venue It was one of those moments where you're like And you know what's so funny about skater weddings? Is that you know no matter what you wear, you're good. Because everyone's wearing cool shit. Like there isn't this weird expectation for like anybody to like go out of their way to be like, I gotta make sure. It's like, no, they just want you to look cool, be casual and have a little bit of - Have a little bit of -

8:51Khalyla Kuhn:Let me say something right now. A little bit of fancy.

8:53Bobby Lee:If I have a wedding, dress up. No, no, they did. I'm saying this incorrectly. I understand. I'm an idiot. Let me guess. What I'm trying to say is like the vibe was very like - No tuxedos. It was like cool clothes.

9:02Khalyla Kuhn:It was like how Ron Howard dresses. right no like when he's like a suit but a t-shirt and a ball cap ron howard style it was like

9:12Bobby Lee:skaters they all have great style so it was just like cool like this one dude had a fucking super wild green suit on it looked so sick oh like some dudes had just the dopest gear i was like and and also wearing vans like rocking vans yeah they dress so good they just have good skaters have the best fucking style dude they do they just have like this vibe of like they pull it off it looks well to do and then still casual as fuck but it's still dressy

9:36Khalyla Kuhn:like this dude

9:38Bobby Lee:this dude Cole from Metalwood he had this just dope ass purple suit on and I was like this motherfucker it was so fly exactly it just looked so fly I wore a traditional black suit so that's all I wear to weddings I only wear black just black what color are you gonna Moloto was like colors are options what color do you want to do dude do you like a bright color and I was like, it's gonna be black bud.

10:01Khalyla Kuhn:I can't wear, look at this. I have to go to Jimmy out, you know that, that is his suits for five foot four or less? On Ventura? I have to go there now. And whenever I'm there, they're like, yeah, Seth, Seth Green just came in. Like all the smaller actors. Yeah, me and Brad Williams just picked up three suits. Tom Cruise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe, yeah.

10:23Bobby Lee:See what it's called? It's Joe Pesci, no, Elijah Wood, Tom Cruise, Kevin Hart, brother, Michael J. Fox, you are in good company.

10:31Khalyla Kuhn:They all go to that Jimmy Owl's place. Jimmy Owl's, short, what's it called? See what that place is called, because I love the guy, because he's always there.

10:38Bobby Lee:What is it, big and tall? Is it small and short? Jimmy Owl, small and shorts? Dave Franco, a lot of guys that are under 5 '8".

10:46Khalyla Kuhn:No. How about suits, 5 '4 or less, Sherman Oaks?

10:56Bobby Lee:so funny no tailoring needed yeah hello hello hello hello hello uncle louis

11:09Khalyla Kuhn:are you being real thank you wow did you really go to bob's big wow let him sit in that blue

11:17Bobby Lee:chair louie louie wow louie this is this is extravagant yeah so i kind of a fucked up story because i wanted a cheeseburger yeah so you brought five of them that's it yeah no i was i i was looking for i don't know like an in and out or something yeah i was kind of in a hurry and i needed i because i need to eat before a certain hour i wake up in a in a cold sweat if i eat too late so did you eat so so i went into bob's i was like oh this is like a family burger like cool right so i go in and i said and i pictured coming here with a bag a paper bag full of burgers yeah and just going here everybody have some burgers and i sat down and i ate uh bob's big burger yeah and it was really disgusting and i got a vanilla shake but i had a paper straw so i couldn't drink yeah yeah that's that's they gave me the burgers in this fucking horrible i thought i wanted it to be like an old-fashioned like cops uh yeah is it as bad as i yeah mine was yeah they're bad

12:19Khalyla Kuhn:louis can i eat it later once you leave can i eat it once you leave the whole thing was a mistake he has three over there yeah yeah no no he will eat those i'm on ozempic oh that's right yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that being on Ozempic is like being kosher or something. Yeah.

12:36Bobby Lee:It is. I mean, he did throw up for the first, like, two weeks he was on it.

12:40Khalyla Kuhn:It was tough. No, I had to switch from Ozempic to Wegoving. We're on Wegoving. I'm on Wegoving now. You don't do that shit.

12:44Bobby Lee:You would never. Never. Fuck that. Yeah. I don't know. I would if it was a good idea, but I don't. It's not a good idea. I think it's terrible. I think you're going to die from that.

12:55Khalyla Kuhn:You really do? No, I don't. Of course not. I'm an asshole. No, I don't like, I get nervous about things like that going, you know, that change how you feel or that change you neurologically. Oh, neurologically. And also, I like the fight I'm in with weight and stuff. Yeah, yeah. I like it. It's something to lean against, you know.

13:15Bobby Lee:I think you lost weight, no? Oh, thanks. Dude, he was doing, you know, he was setting us up. That's all he wanted us to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You look so slender. Yeah. Me? Well, I've been working out and eating more. Oh, that's good. Good. Yeah, yeah. When you do, when you separate, you start working out more and eating less, you're really hurting yourself.

13:33Khalyla Kuhn:Mmm. So I'm just going like a more exercise. Yeah. So let's lay it on.

13:40Bobby Lee:What's the one exercise that you actually enjoy? Because none of them are that enjoyable. I kind of like the way it all feels. You do? Yeah. Fuck, I don't know. I can't get through it lately. I guess maybe it's also the depression exercise is like I'm doing it because I know I need to do it. Oh yeah, no, yeah. Not because I want to do it. How old are you? 42 yeah i mean it just starts changing i'm 58 starts changing yeah yeah what happens feeling different i mean you just sort of like get philosophical about it and you go like i like the way it feels when my body heats up because i'm going on like uphill treadmill or whatever i'm stairmaster and if i don't want to do it i just don't do i never do it if i don't want to see i do that all the time and i'm starting to eat whatever i want like and what do we what do you mean it doesn't matter just eat it because somebody is explaining this to me that if you prohibit you're in this constant tension that you then have to binge to release but if you just go like whatever i want i'm going to eat it when i want it what happens is your body goes like that fucking hurt that actually hurt that was not a good idea and then that memory makes you go oh yeah i don't want that this time i want less things than i used to you know what i mean oh yeah Yeah.

14:50Khalyla Kuhn:Do you get hunger pains at night? No. You don't? Wait. He's still thinking about the old world. No, what I'm saying is that late at night,

14:59Bobby Lee:sometimes I'm like, should I get a sandwich? No, well, here's the difference. You're not explaining. He stays up all night, so he'll be up at 4 or 5, and it's now been 7 hours. It's important to me to go to sleep and stay asleep. So if I eat too close to bedtime, I wake up at like 3 in the morning and it's wet.

15:16Khalyla Kuhn:Oh, I see. My body's trying to digest. You think it's a white thing? Excuse me for saying. Well, you mean white versus you? You mean white in a way that you're not? I think our bodies are different, that's all. They are, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you stay up all night. Yeah, I do. But because, you know, I'm... Is it an Asian thing? I think it's an Asian thing. Are you Korean? Whoa. I don't know anything about you. Yeah, yeah, that's a good guess. Thank you. Yeah, because when white people guess, they never get it right. You could be Chinese. Yeah. Could I be? I almost said you could have Chinese.

15:54You could have Chinese.

15:55Bobby Lee:But that was a really good guess. Korean, yeah. It's like four. There's a punch. There's Thai, Cambodia. I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard it on purpose. Yeah. That was really good. You have a gong, so it's fair to talk about this. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Right? You have a gong and a fortune cat. You have a fortune cat? Yeah, yeah, yeah. His father made this before he died. That's why this is an homage to his father. Really? Yeah, no. Did he make it as a weapon? Yeah. We think about it every time. This is when we remind.

16:26Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. He feels his father. Stop doing that, dude. Sorry. It's fucking weird.

16:29Bobby Lee:If you wanted a good burger, you should have texted us. We would have told you where to go. Yeah. That's not where to go. I really regret it. Yeah, that sucks. There's so many good burgers, too.

16:37Khalyla Kuhn:Are you single right now, Louis? No. Oh, you're seeing somebody? Yeah, I'm with somebody very much. Oh, very good. Very in love with somebody. Oh, that's great.

16:48Bobby Lee:Yeah, somebody I want to be with.

16:50Khalyla Kuhn:Wow.

16:51Bobby Lee:He's looking for love. No, what I'm saying is that,

16:53Khalyla Kuhn:because I was curious, does Louis ever date Asians? Have you ever dated an Asian in your life? Yes. Oh, good. Yeah. Very good, very good. I dated a Korean woman for a little while, yeah.

17:07Bobby Lee:And what did you, what was that experience like? Because I've been dating a Korean woman for six years now. Yeah.

17:13Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay.

17:14Bobby Lee:So you are Korean.

17:16Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's why I said you got it right. Yeah. Yeah. I thought he, yeah. Yeah, very good. Yeah, yeah. Well, one thing, because she told me, the woman I dated told me, I asked her, what's your last name? And she was like, I mean, guess. You're going to get it in two guesses. All right. Because it's like Lee or Park. It's true. Like it's only one of those. There's some chose. Chose. There's some chose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's envious of a couple chose. That's why. But what was it like? So she was, I really liked her very much. she was cool and she was she had an interesting she was a different she talked about being korean without my asking her you know it was part of her uh she said that it was um um there wasn't many in my also she was korean of my generation there was nobody she was like in a desert of koreans and her raised in new jersey and she said that she had like two friends and they are still very close because they felt very isolated.

18:14There just wasn't many people from their culture. Same with him. But she told me interesting things like that when Korean people say, hello, they say, when have you eaten? Or like they say, have you eaten? Yeah. That's their, how you doing?

18:26Bobby Lee:What is that? What's it? Your mom says that when we see her?

18:28Khalyla Kuhn:Pekopah?

18:29Bobby Lee:Pekopah? Pekopah. Yeah. Are you hungry?

18:32Khalyla Kuhn:Are you hungry?

18:32Bobby Lee:Yeah.

18:33Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. His mom does say that. And then Pabulo is, I'm hungry. I'm full.

18:36Bobby Lee:I'm full. Yeah.

18:37Khalyla Kuhn:And I know gochu, which is penis. Okay. Tonka Mok which is butthole. Yeah. Jut which is tit. Boji, pussy. That's all I know. That's all I know. That's all I think that's all I know. Plural for tit, you can only say them. Yeah, bojies maybe. Yeah. Bojie bojie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bojie bojie. That's like titty titty. Yeah, yeah. And then here's another thing. I learned juke juke. No. No, let me finish. Ugh. What? Go, go, go. You know what juke juke is? Yeah, isn't that jizz? No, no. No, Juk Juk isn't jizz. Trying to start a Korean car. Juk Juk.

19:15Khalyla Kuhn:Juk Juk is slang for sex. So I asked a Korean guy, I go, I've never, like, why Juk Juk? He goes, that's what sex sound like. Juk Juk. Lots of pussy farts in cars. Yeah. I guess they're queefing a lot over there. You know what I mean? But yeah. They are. Yeah, I've never heard Juk Juk when I'm having sex. No.

19:36Bobby Lee:Well, I'll go see.

19:38Khalyla Kuhn:I just hear a Korean guy in the room going, chook chook. Yeah.

19:42Bobby Lee:Sitting in the cock chair.

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23:18Khalyla Kuhn:Is there a limerence involved? No, I don't think so. Oh, okay. I mean, both of us are single. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But is there one person more like, you know what I mean, obsessed with the other person? No, we feel pretty equal. Whoa. And it's nice, you know? Like, I heard somebody talking once about like, you know, I don't want to be the kind of guy who picks girls up at the airport. Like, I heard that said is a bad thing, picking them up at the airport. Right. And I've picked her up at the airport. You like her. Well, how did that? That one time I was coming home and she goes, hey, I could pick you up at the airport.

23:54I'm like, you don't have to. and she said, can I please pick you up at the airport? And I was like, good, we're equal, we're men.

24:00Bobby Lee:It depends on what airport, to be honest. I mean, that is a big piece of it. What? It depends on the airport. Oh, for sure. My wife has never, never, I mean, but I don't, it's such an annoyance, like I don't even want her to because I'm pissed off when I get to the airport. She's going to show up annoyed. It's like, I'd rather you just be chill at home. Yeah. Yeah, because I, yeah.

24:21Khalyla Kuhn:I don't like it when they don't do the full thing.

24:24Bobby Lee:What do you mean?

24:24Khalyla Kuhn:What? Let me finish. All right. Let me finish. He speaks in limericks. Let me finish. Okay. All right. Kalilah, my ex-girlfriend, she goes, I'll pick you up from the airport. Right. But when I would land, she wouldn't be there. And she's like, I'm stuck in traffic. No go. You're right. Be at the, when the escalators go down where the baggage claim is, be there with a sign. All right. And then sometimes it's like, come to the parking lot because I'm not going to go in. You just have to find my car. No, fuck you. no yeah yeah yeah you come to me you come to me yeah i think that's fair thank you yeah i mean well it's not a full endorsement yeah yeah i'm just being polite yeah yeah um i just don't expect i

25:06Bobby Lee:just it's just i'm doing my best to travel better now to have a better attitude because it's such a nightmare when you get that far but that's why whenever she used to do it when we were younger and broke she was like you know you can get a fucking cab yeah like you make money out when Yeah, but you're married. Yeah, but I'm saying before we were married, when we were dating, she was like, get a fucking cap. How long have you been married for? Almost 10. Fantastic. It's fantastic. Yeah. You have kids? No kids. Can't have kids. No. She's got a penis. No. Okay. I don't know. No, she doesn't. No, no, she doesn't.

25:45Khalyla Kuhn:Is it worth it? What? Having children. You have some. I have two. Yeah. That's two. that's some I think some is I think some is three or more do you really?

25:56Bobby Lee:a couple is two some is three is some three? I think some it's like a series is three or more it's crazy to teach an Asian math that's like the wildest shit yeah yeah yeah a couple is two

26:04Khalyla Kuhn:some is three it's more cultural social math though yeah okay he's bad at all of them sure yeah okay so that you have um a couple I have two children what? it's worth it I think I think anybody who's on the fence about it should just do it really it's never a mistake it's impossible for it to be a mistake okay person yeah yeah for

26:27Bobby Lee:whatever happens wow well your kids are grown like grown grown right 20 and 23 wow wow out of college yeah or at college any of them college yeah yeah yeah that's fucking great because i

26:39Khalyla Kuhn:remember your first hbo special the half hour i think that was your first right on hbo or no i did one uh back in the 90s that was just goofy jokes but the one i did that was a half hour was You talked about your kids and stuff. Yeah, that was a great special. Thanks. Amazing. Thank you. You know, I met you. You don't remember when I met you. I think I brought it up the last time I saw you. It was on MADtv with Lauren Abrowski. I remember. You don't remember meeting me! I do because my friend Dino wrote for you guys. Oh, yeah, Dino. And I was on the lot doing something else. I don't remember. Maybe Cedric the Entertainer's show.

27:13Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah, that's right. That's right. And so, yeah, I do. I used to see you around. I didn't really, we didn't like hang out. Hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you write for Cedric's show? I did. You did? Cedric the Entertainer Presents. Pretty great, huh?

27:24Bobby Lee:You wrote on that show. I was a writer and co-executive producer, yeah. Wow. Give us some good said bits. Cedric? Yeah. I mean, Cedric was like Jackie Gleason. He was like a great performer. He's fascinating. He's so fascinating. Yeah. He really, like, and now, because now he's on like a traditional sitcom and it's massively popular, right? Yes. Neighbor? The Neighbor? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, I've never seen it. That's still there?

27:50Khalyla Kuhn:That's still going on?

27:51Bobby Lee:Oh, it's got to be. Those network shows, they'll just keep riding. He was one of the most natural performers I ever worked with. A guy could make anything funny. Fucking eight seasons that day. Wow. We had this bit that I wrote called Texas vs. Maine. And it was some local access cable show in Texas. And he's a Texan. And it's about how much better Texas is than Maine. And he hates Maine. and he does this kind of like, kind of like, what's his name? The cartoon character with the cowboy hat. Yes, I know. I can't think of his fucking name. Yeah, yeah. Yosemite Sam. Yosemite Sam. Yosemite Sam. He does sort of an impression of him and I used to love watching him do it.

28:33He was really something. Yeah. A good guy too, like really good guy. Yeah.

28:37Bobby Lee:You haven't talked to him in years. Oh, I haven't? No. You haven't talked to him in years. I can tell. I can tell. It's been a few years. Well, because you're talking about him in past tense like he died. Like he died. Yeah. Yeah. No, we just still, we didn't stay friends. I mean, not actively, but I'm always happy when I do see him. I said, hey. Do you hug him or no?

29:01Khalyla Kuhn:Because that tells me a lot. I don't think you're a hugger. We hug. You do? Yeah, I like to hug people. Okay, good. I mean, when I saw you the other day, you gave me a side hug. That was very fruitful. Yeah.

29:10Bobby Lee:I'll tell you the best thing that warmed my heart. You said to me, this was great. this is probably the best piece of advice I've gotten from someone. We were at the cellar and we were in the fat black lounge and you were in the hallway and you were like, that was really good. When I got off stage, I said, oh, thank you, man. And you go, that's family stuff. That's great. And I go, yeah, oh, thank you. And you go, that other stuff, get rid of that. And I was like, okay. And you go, the family said, that was good. And I go, right, right. And you go, but the other stuff. No, he didn't. Yes, he did.

29:42Bobby Lee:Yes, he did. Yeah, he did.

29:44Khalyla Kuhn:You did?

29:45Bobby Lee:In a jokey way. No, I meant...

29:47Khalyla Kuhn:No.

29:48Bobby Lee:It was fucking great. Oh, you did? I saw him at the Fat Black. I had never seen him. I've seen clips of you guys together and stuff. Yeah. And so I was just watching him, and he was doing this stuff about his family, and he was doing a really smart bit about if you... About how you can... About resentment towards his parents, and that later when they become weaker, you start controlling their lives you can get revenge on them and it sounded really like the feelings felt real yeah and that was really engaging and then he talked about if you really want to get back at people that age give them bluetooth for presents like bluetooth items yeah yeah and uh and it was a great bit and then he started doing something about trump and the those issues that you know and it's like i just felt i just went away and that's how i feel about most people yeah he's as good though i think i said you're as good as anybody while you're talking about your family yeah you're as good as anyone like really great and then the other things you sound like everyone right you sound just like everyone else because uh this thing my take on you know everyone's trapped in like four issues for like since 2016 yeah trump trans blood it it's just the same fucking stuff and here's my take on the woke this it's just so boring yeah and uh and everyone takes a shot on on twitter and on the podcasts we all do it so on stage it's like why why you can fashion a great you know no one has your family no one has your voice you know it's totally interesting to watch somebody you can tell where they're you know and where they're coming from uh ethnically where they're coming from in where they are in their kind of family

31:36Khalyla Kuhn:they had that's i'll listen to that all day yeah can i ask you it was awesome i loved it can i ask you a question yeah you don't have to ask no i'm on your show i know but can i ask you one yeah okay um let me okay so um i want no this is the way because i want to be real for a second sure okay so um i've always been obsessed about killing uh-huh so i'm not as prolific okay right yeah i understand that yeah and i haven't changed my i mean right now i'm doing a special for hulu so i'm trying to come up with new stuff but my point is is that i'm so afraid of not killing that i i've been i'm in a fucking rut i totally because of that fear yeah you know what i mean and it's like i know that there's more that i can do i know there's more that i can say and i just don't do it because i hate bombing you know i mean and it's like i I just know that I'm not growing.

32:36Khalyla Kuhn:And I know that, you know what I mean? You're so, you're very prolific. If I can say that. Yes, I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you're one of those comics that like, if you're performing, like all the comics will run into the room to watch you. When I perform, they fucking leave. It's a fucking fire. They don't leave. They do, they do. The whole background. It doesn't matter. None of that matters. Okay. Fuck the other comedians. That's not your audience. Okay. You're not doing this for them. Yeah, who am I doing it for? Just their competition and their colleagues. They're just people that also do what you do.

33:06Okay. Has nothing to do with them.

33:08Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. How do I get over this rut, though? What you're describing is a very important thing, and it's a very vulnerable place to be. You know exactly what you have to do. Your problem is your solution is right in front of you. What is it? It's just you got to get over it. No, in other words, I mean, what I'm saying is you're way ahead of the game because a lot of people don't understand what their problem is. Yeah. I totally understand and that is the basic problem for most comedians um because they're afraid of that feeling I'm not killing I was raised to kill as a comic I started in Boston and in Boston it was like you might get hurt if you don't kill because the room might get really nasty right and someone might throw shit at you they might wait for you outside like there's a feeling in boston of like there's the bad version of this is fucking bad and also there was this kind of like this biting spirit there so i i liked it i was 18 when i started so i was killing killing killing it took me a long time to realize that this is i still try to untrain myself there's bits where i'm like that crushes but it's not making me better i gotta stop doing it so it's not only not wanting to bomb it's also like backing away from the obvious sometimes and just going like yeah that bit annihilates but yeah what are we doing you know better yeah yeah yeah it's not there's no quality to it there's nothing that's it's not taking me anywhere new i mean all the thing is uh the problem with comedians is they take everything very personally and it's a it's a scientific thing kind of comedy and it's an art so you should think of the like privilege the work what's what matters is this bit right um like i was watching this kid in uh new york and he was doing bits about the election the last one and it had been over for a while and uh and the bits were strong yeah but people weren't really into it yeah and he made some comment on stage like oh i guess you guys don't like my politics or something and i pulled him aside afterwards and i said it's because it's an old topic no one wants to hear about it old elections and he said i know but these bits were killing and i don't want to let him go yeah and what i said to him was because he was very young guy so i said if you took the two minutes of political material and instead you stood there and did nothing uh you'd grow more as a comic it'd be better for you as a comedian yeah i think every comedian should try to put especially in these workout sets in the clubs yeah at some point have like an alarm go off or some way that you go i'm gonna do 90 seconds i got no act just 90 seconds of just of just try to see what happens if you don't keep coming and coming and coming with it it's that panic moment of like i gotta kill right now if you can just get past it it's like the sound barrier you know with that big explosion yeah on the other side of the sound barrier is like there's a calm you go like oh i'm i got power now i'm not killing they're looking at me this is weird yeah i'm still here i'm alive i can do a bunch of things i couldn't do on the other side of this yeah you could only do one thing when you need it to be kill kill kill but if you get past that you have like this bunch of other options that you're like wow i could do this they're looking at the room comes alive when you stop getting laughs it does people yeah people start going what is going on there's no because there's a ha puts you to sleep yeah ha ha they're not even listening after a while you know if you're doing jokes ha ha joke ha you could one always do one joke where you go and then I flap the jet black laps ha ha ha it like where you literally make no sense and you'll get that's why a lot of comics have like 15 tags and they're getting jokes just because the motor's in motion they're not funny yeah but you just get you know what I mean I mean it's you just have to you're 54 what are you waiting for it's time it's time yeah yeah yeah yeah it's never too late okay You need to start going on stage and having bad sets.

37:26Yeah. You have to. You have to, yeah. You have to. Otherwise you won't grow. You have to.

37:32Khalyla Kuhn:No, you have to. No, no, no. I do it all the time. Every time I go out to start writing a show, I struggle mightily for months. This message is sponsored by Raycon. Raycon's everyday earbuds have become a go-to gift for the holidays. They sound great, last all day, and then some with 32 hours of battery life and actually stay comfortable no matter how long you wear them.

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41:03Like when I'm developing a new hour, I go to the cellar, I go in, I haven't been in for a while. I do five minutes, maybe just a few jokes I have, and then I get off. And next time I do 10. When I get to about 20, then it starts filling in and it starts getting strong. When I have a strong 20, I put it away. I'm like, you can't do these jokes anymore. And I go back in with nothing. And I start with another zero hard. What's so funny? And then you get -

41:32Khalyla Kuhn:That brave hard joke. Well, I'm gonna do it. Okay. 1996.

41:42Khalyla Kuhn:so i don't do it on the special he's got a brave heart joke yeah it's funny it's fresh listen my last special or one of the last ones i did a special a joke about good will hunting and it was i love it yeah yeah well you did a whole thing about the bible that's fucking old the bible bible's been out for a while yeah yeah so louis i'm gonna make a deal with everyone in this room okay yeah for my special i'm gonna because i've never done a special right right so i have to do the things that i've amassed no you don't for my special it's in two months okay well i know but for the next you know main thing yes look do the special and clean house i'm cleaning house and then start over i'm never gonna do those jokes that's great that's right yeah i love that

42:31Bobby Lee:he's gonna clean house the way a hoarder does where they're like don't really don't get rid of that right there and I'll throw out one of the four Kermits I'm keeping the other three Kermits

42:45Khalyla Kuhn:unboxed I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell you why I'm doing it sure yeah because when I perform I don't feel good I feel pain yeah man every fucking I get it I've been there yeah I feel pain I feel disgusted when I drive home I don't feel good you got you totally get what's going on. I know there's something going on. Yes. And it's like when I was younger and I was like bombing and I was like trying new things and going what's my voice and all that more fun. It was in retrospect. I mean, back then you were struggling. There was no money and getting stage time and all the fucking shit that you have to go through.

43:19Khalyla Kuhn:But still, in terms of performing, it felt new. It felt fresh. Jokes that kill are traps. They're they are prisons. Yeah. And they keep you from, I mean, you're stuck in these bits. It's horrible. I had the same opening joke for like 10 years or more. And every time I said it, it felt like I was pissing out of my own mouth. I hated it. I hated it so much. Can you tell me what is the joke? Yeah, and it's actually about piss. I hate saying it. Please do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, oh God, it's so horrible. I mean, it is what it is. it's a joke but yeah but i live in new york it was like uh new york is the only city where you actually have to say things like hey that's mine don't piss on it yeah i love that that's a great

44:08Bobby Lee:joke yeah i like i like yeah i've heard you it's a fine joke but do it for 10 years every night like it's not you felt sure he that's um he's autistic sorry he'll he'll move furniture the

44:18Khalyla Kuhn:whole it's just kind of what he does when you when you try new stuff do you have a button or Or is it sometimes like just a premise? Yeah, usually it's a premise. Like I come up with, I'll be walking around and I'll have a thought or in a conversation where I'm like, I know that area is a bit. Right. And I'll write down the premise, just like two words of what it is. And then I try not to think about it too much till I get on stage. And then I go on stage the next time and I explain it to the first audience and that's how I write it usually. wow and then it gets refined over time once in a while bits come to me full like well i don't know where that came from but just like a joke like i'll come up with a i'll think of a sentence and then i'll think of a joke because i do still like jokes you know yeah so i jokes i just they come they pop in uh but bits where you're talking about something that's that's the way i do those you just you know there's an area there's something there and you wait because they're listening.

45:25There's no better. They're the instrument. So when you're working in the dark, it's like being a composer. They like to have a piano. They like to hear it, you know, not just sit there and go this and have it all in their head.

45:38Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. When you have an audience, that's your instrument. So they're sitting there waiting and that makes you, that brings it out of you. And it makes you come up with it funny because that's what you do.

45:49Bobby Lee:Pitch Louie some bits. You got some, he's got some new shit. Pitch him some. No. No. Pitch him some bits, man. I'm not doing it now. Yeah, do it. No, no, no. I'm not doing that right now. He's got a couple in the chamber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. Tell me one. Tell him one of the new bits. One idea for a new bit. Come on.

46:02Khalyla Kuhn:Well, I have a bit that I'm trying to get to work. Look at Louie when you do it. Don't look at me. Yeah, I want to look at you, too. I want to look at you. I want to look at you right now. Sorry, it's for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good for you. Yeah. So I have a bit about like, my dad used to tell wild stories. I don't know if they were true or not, right? Like when I was 14, my dad goes, when I was your age, okay, in Korea, I used to kill wolf. Right? I go, there were wolves in Korea? So many wolves. You know what I mean? Everywhere, wolf, you know? One time wolf attack, I break a leg. Right?

46:35Khalyla Kuhn:I take a stick, pop, pop, in the face. Right? Then a couple of days later, my friend John brought his corgi over to my house. And my dad goes, how old is your wolf? I'm like, you used to kill dogs?

46:50Khalyla Kuhn:It's a great bit. What's wrong with you? It doesn't get a huge laugh though on stage. It gets kind of a giggle. It's a great bit. Key, you got to do that bit. See? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a great bit. Yeah. Give him another one. No, I don't want to give him another one. No, no joke. You got to keep doing it. Yeah. All of every bit I have. I give up. That destroys. Yeah. started either weak or like pissing people off but i just keep doing it and it's like it's like walking to a firing squad and saying shoot me it's hard yeah yeah yeah and you go and they go but these all these bits are really there's still a few in in my set now even though i'm doing theaters that i'm like i still know i'm not getting what i should be getting with that one it still feels weak but i still believe in it so i'm still and it keeps changing and changing so I gotta because sometimes you gotta keep doing it you gotta do that bit over and over again okay that's what it is yeah over and over over and over are you doing the bit are you doing the bit about

47:48Bobby Lee:the uh how we can mount and dismount an entire race in one I don't remember I remember those words oh I love I don't remember what the way you said that that stuck out mountain you're saying the way that we say like when you have someone on the fucking news yeah says like oh that yeah no I don't do it anymore why dude yeah I had a whole bunch of stuff about people the way people talking the news and i had some about trump and all this stuff and that stuff i just decided i didn't want either here and i'll tell this may help you okay okay i was giving that bit it's so i was doing um when i went back on the road i took a year and a half off of comedy i wasn't i was gonna quit like i decided i didn't want to do it anymore and i so it was a really great break because I wasn't like just taking time off.

48:37I was like, I'm done. But then I started coming up with ideas, jokes. So, you know, I just got full. I wanted to do them. And then I was like, let's just get back to it. But when I first started going out with this new set, it had these weird bits that are kind of strange. And then this killer chunk about the news and all that stuff. And I was like, where do I put that? Where does it hurt these other bits? How do they, you know? And then I was in Omaha doing a bunch of shows at the Funny Bone. And one night I was like, what if tonight you don't do those bits at all? Just take them out. And I took them out and everything else in the show kind of rose up.

49:20And the show just got, because it had a cohesion to it. And it just got better. Like your bit is competing with these other bits. Like it can't follow Braveheart or whatever you're killing. Oh, I see. Yeah, so once you're done with this special, that bit should be like your... No, I'm doing that bit in the special. Okay, but I mean, these bits will do better, the new ideas. Oh, I see what you're saying. When they have a little feeling. But also, the bit about the news, Brian Regan did a bit kind of like it.

49:51Bobby Lee:No, not like that. His spin was the way people talk in the news then versus now. And you were saying the way that you'll have an anchor. No, but he did. He did a thing about people saying there was a fire today in Nicaragua. Oh, Nicaragua. Oh, that's right. Right, right, right, right, right. That's right. So I was doing that. It was kind of near it. It was near enough. The phrasing was great. The phrase stuck out of my brain when you go, how did you mount and dismount an entire race in one word? And with one word of your life. I love that. Yeah. It was fun to do. I like that. And then I did a thing about homeless versus unhoused.

50:30Bobby Lee:The unhoused. But I just don't want to, I don't, I'm tired of having clever takes on what's going on in the world. Oh, fuck. I'm tired. Fuck.

50:38Khalyla Kuhn:My whole act is fucked. I have a whole homeless bit. That's just me. I have five minutes of homeless.

50:43Bobby Lee:That's just me.

50:44Khalyla Kuhn:Oh my God.

50:45Bobby Lee:His special is literally called clever take on what's going on. Fuck.

50:50Khalyla Kuhn:We got to change. I'm just going to put the greatest hits out. And then the next time I'm going to grow and it's going to be. Okay. What about the greatest? What about you? Where are you at?

50:57Bobby Lee:I just put out a fucking special on Hulu, which, you know, it was a good time for me to put out a special because it was Charlie Kirk got shot, anniversary of 9-11, and then they took Jimmy Kimmel off the air, and I was like, put out a special, baby. Boom, drop it here. Drop it right there. It's fucking insane. And Hulu, he's doing it with Hulu too. Is that your first one? That's my, Hulu, that's number one. I did one before. I did one previous. Well, no, I did technically. You've done two on Netflix. No, Showtime, then Netflix. Netflix was the first real, real special. Does Hulu have it forever, or do you get it back?

51:34Bobby Lee:No, you get it back. Netflix, too, they took mine down after it was a license. So I might just put it up on YouTube. We were talking about that. Yeah, don't worry about it. It's a body of work you're compiling over time. Yeah. So it's got a life on Hulu right now. But I did a special called Hilarious, and it was on Epix. Yeah. Great company. Great company. Who cares? Who gives a shit? It doesn't matter. No, I know. It doesn't. It's all. All of the. Back when I used to. Before I started selling them myself. I used to just find. Who wants this one? And it would be like Showtime. Or one was Epix.

52:07One was this. It just doesn't matter. No. They're all. You're compiling a library.

52:12Bobby Lee:But now you'll sell them yourself forever. You're never going to go to a thing again. You'll just do just you now. Right? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I mean. I kind of like to be on a platform. Just to get more new eyeballs on the work. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see.

52:26Khalyla Kuhn:Also, plug the book. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you have a copy of the book?

52:29Bobby Lee:No. Dude, this is so funny. You would never read it.

52:33Khalyla Kuhn:I have a library. Oh, you want to just in the... Yeah, I have everyone's thing. Okay. You guys have a copy? They should have sent you one. Yeah, Bobby has a copy. Well, no, honestly, where's my copy? I literally don't have a copy. I handed it to you.

52:43Bobby Lee:Yeah, he did hand it to you.

52:44Khalyla Kuhn:Where is it? It's over here somewhere. It's got to be over here somewhere. Yeah, it's in his pile of books. Yeah, I have a pile of books over there. Thank you. I'm going to read it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I mean, you should show it to people, right? Or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Whatever, man. I don't know if I have it. Where is the book, by the way? Star Trek, The Next Generation X-Men. I didn't write that. At the Catholic Bible.

53:04Bobby Lee:Yeah.

53:05Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah, I don't know where it is, dude. Bring it up on the fucking, bring it up there. Yeah, bring it up on the fucking thing, you know? That's probably.

53:10Bobby Lee:Wait, my favorite thing is him getting mad. It's your book. He gave it to you. I fucking don't remember it. There it is. There it is, baby. ingram ingram that's my new i just wrote that and that's about rick ingram from chris roxel what is it about ingram it's about a little boy who's uh kicked out of his house when he was like nine and he's just walking around texas and he's alone and he's uh and he's and

53:35Khalyla Kuhn:life gets really hard for him like chauncey gardner from being there yeah but he's like much younger okay yeah but chauncey gardner the character was a young because he had no influence except for on television, so he was kind of a child. Sure. Well, that's not what this book's about. I know, but what I'm saying is that it's not that, you know what I mean, different. Sure, if you want, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's about a guy named Chauncey Gardner. Yeah, if that's what you want. It's a little boy, kind of like Paris, Texas. He's kind of wandering. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know Paris, Texas.

54:08Khalyla Kuhn:Oh, yeah, yeah.

54:09Bobby Lee:Why are you doing that?

54:09Khalyla Kuhn:I don't know.

54:10Bobby Lee:Just let him have the book.

54:11Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

54:12Bobby Lee:You're trying to shoehorn some other fucking story into it. I mean, it's fine. It drives me nuts.

54:16Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah. I was trying to sound intelligent. It's not working. It's not. It's not. Stop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I, now, audiobook, is there an audiobook? Yeah. And are you doing the narration? I read it, yeah. Oh, that's great. I'll listen.

54:30Bobby Lee:I find it very odd when people don't read it. Yeah, that's weird. That wrote it. You wrote it, you read it. Well, I'm a performer. I perform, so I can do that. Some authors probably would have a hard time doing it. It's hard. It's like really hard. It takes a couple weeks. Yeah, but I mean, I think a lot of times we find, right, that like, look at Stephen King. Like, you know how bad Stephen King got off doing his reading? Do you know what I mean? Like, I think some of these guys, they love to write, but they're also like, you want to hear me talk about it? Well, it's weird when you read it because you're faced with what you wrote.

55:04Yeah. And you have to read it with all the, you can't go like. I kind of wanted to do a version, like a whole version where I read it like this or something like a whole, the whole book in falsetto or something. Yeah. He's walking around the fucking farm. Yeah. He's walking around the farm. But anyway.

55:26Khalyla Kuhn:But do you read in paragraphs? Like, and then you go cut, you cut it there. You go as far as you go in one piece and then you keep, and also somebody's there to keep stopping you because you fuck up a lot. All right. So you have somebody going, you got that wrong. It's tedious. Like when we do the movie,

55:39Bobby Lee:it's when we did the animated movie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We did an animated movie.

55:42Khalyla Kuhn:Where you give me notes. Where you give me notes.

55:45Bobby Lee:I give him notes.

55:46Khalyla Kuhn:I do give him notes live. Every line, he goes, that's not how you say it. Well, cause - I'm like, what? He's like, well, and then you give me scenarios. Imagine this and this and they go, okay, I get it. Well, try to have him say focaccia. It's fucking - Focaccia.

55:58Bobby Lee:Yeah, well, he got it there. Because we worked on it for like a week.

56:00Khalyla Kuhn:In your fucking face, dude.

56:01Bobby Lee:No, we play these two little creatures, but we're bouncing a lot like we do on the show we're bouncing you know it's like bouncing conversation and and sometimes he'll be am i the worst no no no be honest no you're am i the worst shut up no but he's so good but sometimes he'll be not in our conversation yeah reading the characters if it's existing in another space i'm like yeah we're doing it it's you and me it's you and me right but when i do say that you do come back and you kill it am i wrong no thank you then we had to go do we had to go do extra and i left because i went separate and he goes how long did to take and i go dude it's 40 minutes you're in and out yeah he called me he's like took me two

56:34Khalyla Kuhn:fucking hours i was like because i was gone but you read it before because i haven't read it so i'm showing up and i'm like i do not read it before oh so you're good no it's just i just no we just work differently yeah that's like a neurological difference yeah it is i just we just

56:52Bobby Lee:i just yes yes it is i just see things like that okay with lines with lines do you have like a memory without like can you memorize lines real fast no it takes me days right it's i can see it and do it right i have this weird trick i don't know why i'm so lucky but i've been someone that can just what your brain does eat it and i can throw it right back out wow you know who they said used to do that that was that charlie sheen i don't know if you saw that documentary we've talked about it because we love it they used to say a john cryer would go this fucking guy would never rehearse would would be be on time on the nose be unprepared and then look at and go I'm gonna mess it up Okay yeah Yeah Yeah yeah yeah Okay yeah And get an entire Two page scene Incredible And not even It's just his brain Had that digestion And regurgitation I used to just need Like two Two rehearsals To know it Two and then Yeah cause I need to Reading it I'm just not It's not getting in Right But if I Wreck through it And kind of do this Two takes Yeah Then I know it Cause I lived the scene Right So you don't memorize it In the night before That never did me any good Me neither It only stressed me out.

57:57Me too. It didn't do me any good.

57:58Bobby Lee:I was always bad at that. If I could do it in the morning, if I read it right before I went there, and then I got one run through, I would be like, okay, I understand what I was doing. I understand what I didn't see because - Well, and you do it in pieces. So it's like when you're filming stuff, you only have to worry about this one scene, and you do it a bunch of times from all these different angles. Yeah. And then you throw it away, it's gone. So you only have to worry about one thing at a time when you're filming stuff. Can I tell you my favorite scene from your show that to this day I watch all the time, like over and over and over.

58:25Bobby Lee:Is it the art room scene? That's my favorite scene. It's my favorite scene in the whole world. With you and Pam Adlon in the press a button. It says press. It's the best scene. It's my favorite scene, dude. I love that scene. Just be, here's, and let me, dude. Great scene. And let me ask you, let me ask you something because I get nerded out on those scenes. I'll rewind a scene like. It's Jay, it's Jay, Big Jay Oakerson's voice if that's what you're gonna say. It is? It is? Big Jay Oakerson, yeah. I hope I'm not getting him in trouble. No, no, no. I mean, I've asked him to do it. I wrote him and I said, can you please say this word to choose one five times into your phone and text it to me and I'll send you a SAG check.

59:08That's so funny. He said, sure. And he did it. And it's in there.

59:14Bobby Lee:On the first take, Pam turns her shoulder and walks away. Yeah, she's just like, yeah. But is it, did she, it's an organic laugh that you can hear in the audio. I don't think like she laughs as she walks away, but I don't think she meant to laugh. She doesn't really laugh. She kind of goes like, oh, like. She goes, okay. I hear her say, okay. Yeah. Did you surprise, was it a surprise when she first heard it or you guys had already? No, we knew what. Oh God, it would have been so funny. No, sorry. If it was a surprise, I wanted it so bad to be. Like, cause we, cause I like, there's a scene, there's a scene that I've nerded out like this about that I'll loop is in baskets.

59:53Yeah.

59:54Bobby Lee:Um, and I know you could tell he knows that scene. Cause I've watched it a hundred fucking times, but Louie is drinking a Gatorade. Yes. Your scene, that scene, it's the exact same comedy feeling in my soul where I go, this is so fun. And they knew it was fun. Oh, dude. So I remember that they really well, because so when, when we set up Zach's show, yeah. Um, We had this meeting, me and him, and I don't remember who else was there. But I started asking him about, we were just trying to decide what the show was about. And it was just a show for Zach. And I was working at FX. I had a show that was successful.

1:00:31And I said, I want to make another show. So they're like, all right. And I went to Zach first because nobody ever made me laugh that hard as Zach did. So anyway, when we sat and talked about what his show would be about, we had already made a deal. He's going to have a show. um i was like well what if your fan what if you have family in it you know and i and um he so we're talking about i said what's your mother what about your mother if you had a mother and he goes yeah maybe and i go what's your mother really like in real life and he goes she's always like ah zach why don't you do and i and i just said your mother's louie and we all laughed and then there was this pause and i said what if we get louie anderson to play your mother and he's like why does that sound like such a good idea like it just was me like what a crazy idea yeah that's how it came about because i was making a flip joke and then i was like this is i enjoyed this part of the work i was like i just got on the phone said get louis anderson on the phone i don't know him that way we've met in person a bunch of times i always liked him but i didn't have a relationship with him but i just said get me louis anderson on the phone a few minutes later i get this call from louis in his car and he goes hi hi louis it's louis ck yeah so i'm making a show for fx and zach califanakis is the star of the show we're doing a pilot okay and i go we have a part in it it's a substantial part for you the thing is we want you to play zach's mother and i just hear the sound inside the car and he goes i love it wow and it felt like this we didn't know what he would do we gave him the job he there was no nothing written and there was no it was just that day we gave him the job wow made a deal right it was like no we're doing that so i didn't know how it was going to work out and i didn't know what what zach so zach hired john uh chrysler

1:02:23Bobby Lee:chryster yeah chrysler uh uh uh what's wrong with me please look it up johnathan chrysler chrysler yeah chrysler chrysle john chrysle chrysle i don't know chrysle say it jonathan chrysle had done this show portlandia which is one of my favorite things ever it's awesome yeah and he just had this way of setting up improv setting up setting this scene for two characters he knew how to shoot it how to get how to shoot it well and how to just make it happen so these guys just i went after this one meeting where we talked about everything i kind of went away and let them make the show and then i showed up that day and there's louis anderson in a dress and i'm like we're really doing this huh wow and i'm like i don't know what what is the character what are you guys doing and i sat and watched them shoot that scene which just happened there was nothing to it yeah they had something to argue about that he doesn't respect he's being a clown right and martha that was like an introduction from and then there was this obsession with this gatorade and when that moment happened i remember i had just arrived a few minutes before with the gatorade and that hits the spot i was like i was like what do we do this is incredible this is incredible and louis and i got to really love louis we got to know each other much better yeah and then he won a fucking emmy and it was such a glorious thing that louis because i loved him when i was a young comic and he's such a sweet and good guy he's open for him struggled with his health you It was really sad when he passed away.

1:03:55But yeah, it was one of the happiest moments of my career was him winning an Emmy. Wow. That was such a beautiful thing. Because the way he did it, that character was fantastic throughout the season. Two seasons. Great. Fucking great.

1:04:11Bobby Lee:I did a show on FX called Dave with Little Dickie. And when I was on the show, I was in love with Baskets so much. and i was like hey i'll i'll i don't want to get paid like can i just do a anything in the thing i just was like i'll do an anything anything any and they were and they were like dude they you got to stop asking like because i kept asking my agent i was like just tell him i'll fucking

1:04:33Khalyla Kuhn:they were like they don't want does that work if people if if talent no but they said they don't they were like usually because i've asked so many times they're like nah it's not gonna happen i was

1:04:42Bobby Lee:like i don't even want lines i just want to be in like a background the burger king i want i really wanted to be at the burger right and i was like just let me be in the thing they're like they don't want like an actor comic they were like they're not looking for that yeah you're not you're in the wrong i was like i just want to be in the back yeah no you wouldn't have been right for i know see that's right there you go that's right he was like no you can't do it dude so when

1:05:02Khalyla Kuhn:people go like my agents try to track projects yeah like when the crazy rich asians were happening like we're tracking this for you we're putting your name in that past you know and it's like I couldn't even get an audition at the end of the day. No, yeah, it doesn't. None of that works. No, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's good if you're trying to be an actor. You go in for a lot of stuff because they remember you. You just do the best version of you at the audition, and then you just are memorable. It doesn't matter getting that part. If you read something, you're like, that's not my kind of guy, and you try to be it, you're going to suck.

1:05:38So you just do a weird your version of it. Right. And they'll go, that guy was good. He can't do this, but that guy, and they'll remember. I mean, I've cast a lot of things in my past with people that I've seen in other stuff that I've seen in stuff that I had them cast, you know, come in for. So go in for everything. Go in for everything and do any part you get. I say no so much. Because that's where, you know, agents don't get you work, no. No, they're terrible people. I'm not, they're just, they are what they are. They're terrible people. They're terrible people. Absolutely worthless people.

1:06:12Bobby Lee:Some of the worst ever. they give some of the worst advice they're snakes they've set you up for something and then when it goes bad they're not there to back you up they're the worst i think they i think they're just they're just uh terrible pigs they're they're out of their pigs they're out of their depth a little or they're not in the they're in the wrong business i hate them they're on the backs of us they stink yeah i can't wait to fire mine i'm done with the business forever anyway whoa dude why would you be done with the business yeah me too we're out dude this is yeah we're the last show in Hollywood.

1:06:41Bobby Lee:This is it. I think we're the last. This is it. It's dying. It's dying. That's a shame. You do a movie. And the book, by the way, is available literally everywhere. You can pre-order it now on all the things. And it'll be out November 11th. November 11th, Ingram. It's the first one. I wrote another one after that I'm still working on. I finished a draft of it. Did you get like a book deal where they give you a two book deal? You know, they do this thing. It's a weird, like give them a deal. And then they, then they make people write another book, even if they didn't want. No, no, I didn't get any kind of deal like that.

1:07:20I just, I just wrote this one. Good. See what would happen. And I sent it out. And this company, Ben Bella in Texas is publishing it. It's a little company.

1:07:29Bobby Lee:Ben Bella. Ben Bella. Did you find them? They found you. I got a book agent and he's a really smart guy. And he found, uh, found them. He, he'd worked with them on other stuff. They don't do much fiction. but it's distributed by Simon & Schuster so that's who sells it but I didn't get a book deal from them I haven't been paid anything I just wrote it and they're putting it out we'll see what we make together but I don't have an advance or anything that's a good deal we'll see what we make together I like it that way I don't like the thing of like when I book on the road and stuff agents like to get advances because they sound you know hey we got you the money Yeah.

1:08:09But all you're doing is betting against yourself. Totally. The last thing you want to do is like take a bunch of money from somebody and then you didn't do well. And then you're like, ha ha. I want people to sort of have a good experience of you. So yeah.

1:08:21Bobby Lee:Because you're a big crowd work guy. Clips, you started crowd work. Can you imagine? Yeah, that was my innovation. That was Louis, big crowd work clip guy. You were the first on TikTok to do it as far as I'm concerned. That's right. I saw most of your. I just saw it. I saw it as a new way. And here I am.

1:08:41Khalyla Kuhn:Thank God. I would love to see that. Does that annoy you, like these crowd work guys doing clips on TikTok? I mean, they got what they got from it.

1:08:49Bobby Lee:Yeah, it's fine. It's all a part of the thing. It works for them. Good for them. I don't care. I love stand-up. I don't enjoy watching that. Also, when I see friends of mine do it, it's like you're killing in the moment, but no one's going to remember it. Yeah. And you're not building anything. But I have a different goal than them. They just want to run their numbers up and they want to get whatever. Yeah. And also, a lot of people, it pleases them a lot. People really love it. People like it. Yeah. So if an audience, if someone's enjoying it, they're right. Yes. And the person who doesn't like it, it's none of their business.

1:09:23If you don't like something, it's none of your business. As long as somebody likes it. If nobody likes it forever, someone needs to talk to them.

1:09:33Khalyla Kuhn:Yeah, yeah. But you know what? If literally no one ever liked a comic ever doing anything, that'd be pretty fucking incredible. I want to see this. David Tell had this. I don't think he ever did it more than once that I saw. He said, if you tell somebody you have a small penis, if you tell a woman you have a small penis, she won't be interested. But if you tell her you have the smallest penis in the whole world, she's going to want it.

1:10:04Bobby Lee:Yeah. He's one of my favorites. Great. Unbelievable, that guy. Yep. Who's the guy that you really have like a comedy crush on that you're like, oh, I love the fucking way that that person works? These days? Yeah. I mean, that used to be Zach for me. I used to put my head on the table and cry. Yeah. Todd Glass has always made me laugh like that. So funny. Just fucking destroys me. Yeah. Jim Norton, who I've been working with lately, just also really kills me. There's a lot of guys I really love. But that kind of like, I can't believe it. Yeah. Todd Glass, I mean, I don't know if it's okay to do other people's bits, but I'm - You just say it's Todd's bit.

1:10:45I'm naming him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we call him? We'll get approval. Yeah, he did this thing about a lady next to him on an airplane has Reese's cups and she's taken one out and she looks at him, looking at him and she goes, do you want one? And he goes, I want both.

1:11:05and he did some clip i don't know if you can find it but it was during the pandemic he did some fake commercial i think on maybe instagram or something where he's showing you how you can pee outside uh but he's uh he's he puts a just a bag like a shopping like a plastic bag over his head and he just stands near a bush and he just starts pissing his pants completely fucking nuts so he and I haven't seen him for a long time but he's always been he's always been a guy that destroys me we love him

1:11:44Bobby Lee:yeah he was doing a bunch of fake cop bits that were very funny do you remember that little run he had for a while of like getting fake pulled over he used to do a bit with breakaway glass bottles like fantasy of like breaking So it's him walking down the street with a beer bottle, and there's some teenage girls, and one of them gives him a typical teenage girl, like, ew. And he goes over and he breaks.

1:12:10Yeah, he's pretty great.

1:12:11Bobby Lee:He's the one right now. All right, look, the advice was good. I learned so much today. Lou, did you have fun here? Of course I did. It was really fun. I wanted to do the show because you guys have a great energy. It was fun. And I had a great time. well we we listen we love not gonna sell a single one of my no no no no no no that's not true no no no ingram louis ck no no he's right it's not that's not gonna but it doesn't matter five five people yeah yeah guys please please uh go uh purchase ingram right now louis first book it would mean a lot to him he uh asked us for a loan before the show we were a little concerned i'm

1:12:51Khalyla Kuhn:being real i mean i um i dude i'm thanks for being on the show man i appreciate it no no no that's it go ahead do your gay bit do your little i forget i forget do your sense no i just think i'm just a huge fan dude i really am i just think you're so great thank you well you make me laugh a lot thank you thank you but um but um just having you on here was just a fucking great thanks

1:13:19Bobby Lee:dude why can't i yeah dude he's the best living comics yeah yeah okay shut the fuck up shut up thank you for being a bad friend

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