Begin Again Moments: Hitting Rock Bottom And What Comes Next

13 Sep 2026 · 17 min · 14 chapters

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In short

A recovery story about overdosing, hitting rock bottom, rebuilding trust with a partner, and staying clean through meetings and treatment; it also touches on teen health messaging about meningitis vaccination.

Guests/backgrounds

Div (speaker) describes her addiction progression from intermittent use in late teens to habitual use for about 10 years, multiple rehab stays (Palm Place; Western Super Nightmare), and later building a women’s online community (Trini Tribe). Renshaw is her partner/ex-husband involved in rebuilding trust and supporting her during recovery.

Key claims

“Keep trying” and “never give up” leads to recovery; trust returns after sustained sobriety; rock bottom requires enough removal from the old life; self-responsibility at age 26 enabled lasting change.

Notable examples

waking in an ambulance after overdose; being allowed to read children stories after three months clean; celebrating divorce ending while choosing to “try again”; relapse after returning to old social patterns; selling a table/jewelry to fund rehab.

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Chapters

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Awakening in the Ambulance

0:00 to 0:10

The host recalls a life-altering experience after an overdose.

“That may include the bacteria that can cause meningococcal disease known as meningitis.”

Awakening in the Ambulance

0:15 to 1:22

The host recalls a life-altering experience after an overdose.

“I remember waking up in an ambulance and a paramedic saying to me, who's the prime minister?”

Struggles with Addiction

1:23 to 2:36

The host reflects on feelings of hopelessness and the desire to stop using drugs.

“Couldn't understand how I'd let it get this far.”

The Merry-Go-Round of Misery

2:37 to 3:41

The analogy of a merry-go-round represents the cycle of addiction and missed opportunities for recovery.

“There was still I always think of it as like I was on this merry-go-round.”

Rebuilding Trust with Renshaw

3:42 to 4:49

The host shares the journey of rebuilding trust with her partner after getting clean.

“Because you obviously had had no contact with the kids.”

Facing the Reality of Divorce

4:50 to 6:06

The emotional impact of divorce and the desire to rebuild life after separation.

“I hadn't been out for about three years you know my going out involved going to a meeting and somebody had called me up and said, did I want to go to some kind of sprauncy event at the V &A?”

An Unexpected Proposal

6:07 to 8:00

Renshaw's surprising proposal to the host after their divorce highlights the complexity of relationships.

“I thought, I cannot sit in my flat being miserable.”

The Downward Spiral of Addiction

8:01 to 8:43

The host discusses how addiction led to a decline in ambition and self-worth.

“You know, can we forgive each other in some instances?”

The Moment of Truth

8:44 to 11:17

The host recalls admitting her addiction to her family and the challenges that followed.

“At what point did it become really unmanageable?”

Rehab and Self-Discovery

11:18 to 13:52

The host shares her experiences in rehab and the journey towards self-discovery.

“and how much has to be removed from your life for you to think, I want, I will do anything to change my life, you know, and there's a lot of damage that's done.”
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Rediscovering Identity After Hardship

14:00 to 14:36

Explore the journey of self-discovery after life's challenges.

“And then I worked in a garden center in January outside.”

The Importance of Personal Choice

14:36 to 15:43

Learn about the significance of choosing who you want to be for yourself.

“And I think if I wind this movie forward for a second to the Trini Tribe on Facebook and Instagram, the biggest thing.”

Building a Supportive Community

15:43 to 16:22

Discover how a community can help women redefine themselves.

“How do you, I don't want to grow all fucking gracefully.”

Embracing Energy and Self-Care

16:22 to 16:52

Understand the importance of energy, self-care, and personal growth.

“You know, these are things I want for me.”
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Transcript

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0:00Teens share everything. That may include the bacteria that can cause meningococcal disease known as meningitis. Even if your teen's been vaccinated in the past, they could still be missing meningitis vaccinations. Ask your teen's doctor or visit meningitis.com today. Sponsored by GSK. I remember waking up in an ambulance and a paramedic saying to me, who's the prime minister? How many fingers am I holding up? Who's the prime minister? and I didn't know what had happened to me and told me you've overdosed and this fear gripped me of oh my god am I going to die like I because I had no control now I'd I didn't know how it worked like am I going to die now and he took and they took me on a stretcher into a room where I think I was injected with adrenaline or something and the doctor there was quite harsh with me.

0:52I was wasting their time. Like there were people who are really sick and need them. And here was I, some stupid junkie overdosed and they were having to, that's how I felt. Like I remember saying, I'm sorry to him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I was crying because I was frightened. I was crying because I was frightened. And I thought, how have I let it get to, how is it, how has it got to this? Like how, like nobody else is doing this. Nobody else is making me do these things. I'm doing this. Couldn't understand how I'd let it get this far. And he was very sweet and said, do you really want to stop?

1:31Yes, I really want to stop. You know, he gave me some pamphlets or something and it came out of the hospital. And I remember sitting on a bench and just feeling so utterly hopeless, looking at the pamphlets, thinking it's too late, You know, it's just too late. And then going off and scoring again. I mean, the insanity arc, the absolute insanity. But it did give me a fright. And, you know, a couple of other things happened. But I'd sort of come to a decision. Even, I can't really explain it. I didn't have this epiphany. I didn't fall to my knees and have some spiritual awakening where I thought I've I've given up.

2:24You know, I'm I've stopped. No, I never had that. But I think you just don't stop trying. I didn't stop trying. Yeah. Even though there were times of hopelessness. Yes. There was still I always think of it as like I was on this merry-go-round. It was like a misery go round. You're round and round on the misery round. And these exit signs flash up. And you either take them. Yes. Or you don't. But you don't know when the next one's coming. Right. Or if the next one's coming. Oh, my God. That's a very, very good visualisation. I put it in. And I kept missing those exit signs, being seeing them, but just missing them.

3:10And I just took one. and I stopped and one day turned into I didn't go to treatment I did go to meetings I did go to NO meetings and at that point if somebody had said to me you need to stand in the corner I was the same upside down in a bucket of pig's will for 48 hours to stay clean I'd be like yeah okay I'm doing it that's whatever it takes I was the same yeah when I was ready when you were ready I'd have done anything But what's so weird, Div, is why I was ready then and not earlier. I don't know. I just don't know. But I do know if you just keep trying. Keep trying. Never give up. It does work.

3:56So what happened then? Because you obviously had had no contact with the kids. No. Renshaw had given up on you. Renshaw had given up on me. So how did you start to rebuild the trust with Renshaw? primarily from staying clean yeah and like you said you know when somebody's clean yeah you know and I was allowed to come and say good night to the children and read them a story when I was three months clean and when I got to that three month stage I was allowed to come and read the children a story sometimes I'd stay for supper wow yeah yeah like wow so the love was still there but there was the trust needed to be damaged it was damaged exactly and then it slightly changed because then they were allowed after I can't remember how many months six or nine months they were then allowed to stay with me so he would come around and read them a story now bear in mind I hadn't been out for about three years you know my going out involved going to a meeting and somebody had called me up and said, did I want to go to some kind of sprauncy event at the V &A?

5:11And I said, yes, terrified, terrified. And I remember getting all dressed up. I didn't know, I hadn't dressed up for so long. I didn't know what to wear. I didn't even know what I liked anymore. I was like, oh God, I look ridiculous. And he came around to say goodnight and read the children's story to my flat. And I opened the door and I was all dolled up. And he was like, bloody hell, where are you going? I said, well, I'm going to this, you know, sponty event. And he said, as you know, he loves motorbikes. And he said, do you want me to take you on the bike? Because it'll be a nightmare, the traffic, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

5:46And I remember thinking, oh, God. Oh, my God. Huge part of the story I missed. The day before the decree absolute had come through. I remember calling him saying, oh, my God, the absolute's come through. That's it. It's over. That's it. So, bear in mind. The divorce was done. It was dusted yesterday. Today, that's why I went out. I thought, I cannot sit in my flat being miserable. I've got to try and start pulling a life back together that doesn't involve wrench for myself. So he comes around. Oh, do you want to lift the V &A? Yes, okay. And we walked in and I just remember being met by this kind of sea of glamour and I just thought, I can't.

6:31I just cannot deal with this. I'm not ready for this yet. So I said, I can't do it, Wrench. I can't do it. And he said, let's go out for dinner. I was like, why would we do that? And he said, to celebrate the end of our marriage, to celebrate the divorce. And I was like, oh, I don't know if I can do that. But I just wanted to be with him. So I was like, I feel a bit weird about it, but okay. and he went to this restaurant that we had a relationship with, but, you know, birthdays, anniversaries, we would go to this restaurant. So we walked into the restaurant, sat down. I felt very sad, you know, because I wanted to be with this man and here we were celebrating our divorce.

7:20And he said something I need to tell you. And I was like, oh, my God, he's met someone else, you know, Some like supermodel and still those old messages, you're not good enough, you're not good enough. I thought, oh, God, here we go. I don't know if I can cope with this. And he said, do you want to try again? And I was like, what? What? And he said, do you want to try again? And I said, yes. Absolutely yes. But I said also, do you think that we'll be able to? So much has happened. There's so much water under the bridge. Can you forgive me? You know, can we forgive each other in some instances?

8:10And he was like, well, let's try. Yes, Redshaw! Oh, my God. So that's what we did. Being self-employed is convenient when you have a drug problem because you kind of don't always get up at 8am to go to an office. And so, you know, in those in a few of those times, you know, my using effective things and I wasn't consistent. And it was slowly eroding my ambition. When I was about 16, I was quite ambitious. Yes. And I had been really bad at school. and then my parents thought I could go to America if I came from 23 out of 24 into top 10 so I came third so I knew a little bit was focus and attention yes um and I I it was in me and I felt it was in me and then from 16 I started using intermittently and then you know by the time I was 20 I was using fully and then 26 I stopped so I had 10 years where you know I was sort of habitual use.

9:12At what point did it become really unmanageable? I think a few things happen. I think it depends what people use. Friends of mine who used smack, you kind of, you know, you can't sit in a chair and not look like you're using. Yeah, and you look different. You sound different. And you're blurry and, you know, everything. We know that. We have friends who've been in that position. And also, you can die. and quite a few of our friends died and overdosed. With Coke, it's different because you sort of think, I'll just use at the weekends. It's recreational. You start in a recreational use. Then your weekend comes a Thursday to a Monday.

9:52And then the rest of the time is just you're trying to recover so you can use again. So that was my using. I had a few years of that, but I felt I presented as a together person. and it was still important for me to look nice and to put on makeup and to make an effort. I had very bad acne but I still, you know, there was really like what you present to the world and how you feel inside and we know this thing of fitting in your own skin. You know, my skin and my body were so far apart and you wouldn't necessarily see it. But then my parents began to notice and then my dad was like, what's happened to you?

10:31You just changed. And then one day I just thought it's going to be easy for me just to say, look, I use. It was just it was actually a release to say it. And I remember exactly when I said it and I was probably 21. And we were sitting around the kitchen table in my parents' flat. And my brother was there because I remember my dad said, now you've told me you can stop. and I remember my brother saying, like that was the biggest deal, and I remember my brother saying, I think it's going to be harder than that, Daddy. I think she'll have to go to rehab or do something. You were 21 at this point, right?

11:10Yeah, 21, 22, maybe 22. So then I went to rehab, but I wasn't ready. And we talked a bit before about this sense of what a rock bottom is and how much has to be removed from your life for you to think, I want, I will do anything to change my life, you know, and there's a lot of damage that's done. There's a lot of things that happen. But you have to have had enough of that old life and want to let it go to be able to successfully get clean. And that first time I came back to London after a few months and I remember going to meetings. And I remember when I went to meetings, I would arrive late.

11:52I'd sit at the back. I wouldn't get to know people. And then I felt, because I wasn't finding a grounding there, that my old life was appealing because it made me feel less lonely. And one night I was out with friends and somebody said, do you want a line? I thought, why the fuck not? There wasn't that barrier of, look what's going to happen if I do again. You couldn't pull it forward. Couldn't pull it forward. So then I relapsed. And then that time of relapse is when, And anyone listening who has or been through this knows this one. When you know there's a solution, the joy of using disappears.

12:28So I had three or four years of just very knowing this was never going to go anywhere, seeing at this stage friends not making it and just thinking at some stage, I will not be able to do this anymore. And then it got to that stage. And then that time I was 26 and I really knew I had to do it for me. There is something where if everyone helps you or puts you in. I remember my parents sold a table at auction to pay for my rehab. And I heard about that table for two years. You know, they would always talk about that table they'd had to sell. And I just it was a good table. But I knew I would have to.

13:09So I sold. I had some jewelry I'd inherited and I sold the jewelry and I paid for my own rehab. I think what happened to me, age 26, is I thought, because I felt I'd lived a whole fucking life, okay? You had. And I felt I have to, for the first time, take responsibility of myself and do this for me. So that first step was doing it. And I spent a year in rehab. You know, I did seven months at Palm Place and six months in Western Super fucking nightmare. It's quite funny. We've just got to explain that people in recovery that go to Western Supermare call it Western Super Nightmare. Yeah, Western Super Nightmare.

13:44I'm so sorry. I really apologize for people who live in what might be now glorious Western Superman. Well, it is a gorgeous place if you're not in treatment. I was in treatment. And it was just, I remember I think I lived on£13 a week and that went on cigarettes. And then I worked in a garden center in January outside. Just like, I remember always just being freezing. And you've got the wind and the sea and just, you know. And then I worked a bit in an old people's home. And it was very, I then came back to London. And it was that feeling, and we know this conversation, when you feel everything has been stripped back from you so much, and you have to build it up again.

14:28You have to really, for the first time age 27 by now, discover who am I and who do I want to be? And I think if I wind this movie forward for a second to the Trini Tribe on Facebook and Instagram, the biggest thing. Can I just quickly ask you something? So this is your community. Yeah. How many people are in there now? A few hundred thousand. I mean. Yeah. But this is this thing that is so important to me is to ask ourselves as women, who do we want to be today for ourselves? Not who does our mother, sister, daughter, husband, partner want us to be. and I spent so many years trying to be what all these people in my life felt I should be or I felt they felt I should be and so to have that choice and to develop that in myself of who do I actually want to be was something I felt when we you know all these people start this community separately but there is this I think the the premise for me the most important thing for a woman is to figure out how can I decide who I want to be for myself today and so that place especially during COVID when people felt they were living in family environments and feeling so lonely yes is how could I actually have a place where you know get online Trini's having a chat sorry I hate talked about myself in third person um I'm chatting with these ladies but we're talking about these subjects we're talking about who do you want to be today and that does then transmit in get dressed wear color, put on makeup, do your hair, decide to look after your body, think about what menopause might be for you.

16:18How do you, I don't want to grow all fucking gracefully. I want to have so much energy in my life. You know, these are things I want for me. And I really, the passion that probably drives me every single day is, is to, I spent many years in my life, Davina, compromising and being something for other people. And I don't anymore. I don't for one millimetre, even to the extent where some family relationships couldn't get their head around it, you know. And it's the most freeing thing I have done for myself.

From the publisher

In this episode of Begin Again Moments, two powerful conversations explore what happens when you hit rock bottom and how you begin to rebuild your life.

Sarah Hiscox and Trinny Woodall open up about their experiences of addiction, the moments they realised their lives had become unmanageable and what it really took to choose recovery.

Sarah reflects on losing her marriage and children as her heroin addiction took hold, while Trinny shares her experience of rehab, relapse, and finally reaching the point where she was ready to get sober.

Together, they explore why hitting rock bottom can look different for everyone, why you have to be ready to change and the difficult journey of rebuilding your life after addiction.

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