Begin Again Moments: What Makes a Successful Marriage?

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0:47That's really the truth. I mean, I wish I'd played the field and been taken advantage of my youth and the situations I found myself in. But I just always chose to be married. I was never happier than being married to someone.

1:09Davina McCall:I mean, it is different being married. I'm thinking about your mum and your dad. Yes. and how even though your dad was a complicated man and you really loved him. Yes. When you were a little girl. Yeah, of course. Before you went inside for a while. And your mum, you could see, you understood why your mum saw in him. Yes, of course. So when they were together, maybe that kind of was an influence for you. Do you think so? Was it a good example of a marriage? Or, you know, I think I've become, like I said, at 14 when he'd been away for seven years. And my brother and I were sworn to secrecy about this.

1:57So nobody on our street, we'd actually moved to the local council estate by that point. And, you know, it was very everyone, you know, everyone's business and quite, it was this sort of close, like Brookside close a little bit. Everybody knew everything. Everyone knew everything. So my brother and I had to pretend for seven years that, oh, yes, our dad's in South Africa. That's what we had to maintain. And because my mum said, you can't, this is what you say, you say this at school. So is your dad going to come? He's in South Africa. It was just that. And then, oh, he's back from South Africa.

2:38Davina McCall:It's quite restrictive that for a kid, like to have to lie about something. To have secrets like that. Yeah, it's big. They weigh very heavy on a young person's soul. And like I said, I would do anything to protect my mum, to help her, to literally anything for her. And so I just felt like, and she was so beautiful. I look like my dad. My mum was just this, you know, violet eyes and this beautiful skin and, you know, very Irish, real Irish beauty. And I always thought she could have had a much better life. I didn't, you know, but she did love him very deeply. And we'd be away on jobs and some of the other chaperones or kids or whatever would be carrying on with crew members and all this stuff.

3:30My mother was never like that. She really wasn't. Wow. And when he died and we went to the hospital to see the body and we walked in together and I just remember going, oh, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, and sort of stroking his face. And I really saw love. Yeah. It was very sweet. It was very sweet, very sad.

3:58Davina McCall:But it also showed you that it was possible, you know, against all odds was a very complicated relationship it made me feel I think there are so many couples who get together, they're in love and then they stay for their kids or whatever they don't really love each other anymore and the kids can feel it but for you your mum loved your dad until his dying breath it's very rare and I think it was also it was a great example to me of a partnership and a patient woman she was very patient and it was good for me to see that yeah that that they really had had something together this segment was sponsored by garnier Oh my god!

4:54Davina McCall:Oh, lady over there. Hi. What's your name? Shoshanna. Shoshanna. We've got a colleague at work, Emma, who wants to have her hair coloured. I'm trying to find somebody to come with me to come and colour her hair with some Garnier Nutrice at work. Yeah, why not? Would you really? Yeah. Follow me. Follow me. So this is the Begin Again Studio. And this is Emma! Shoshanna seemed really confident. She has coloured her friend's hair and stuff before. We've got to put this one into here and shake to activate the colour. Shake it like a Polaroid picture.

5:28Davina McCall:Already the colour's lovely. The shade that we are doing on Emma is Mocha Brown, which is my shade. Mine. I own this. I don't. There are actually 35 shades to choose from. It's got fruit oils in it. They are what nourishes it. Emma, you're very lucky. You have no grey hairs. but Garnier Nutrice, the permanent color's got 100 % gray coverage. I can vouch for that. That is it. Oh wow, okay. Easier to do it yourself, do you see what you mean? Is that easier than you thought? Very easy. Just like putting like hair oil in here. It's like so easy. Time to go. Go Emma! Oh my god, it looks great! Oh my god, I'm not being funny, you've done a great job!

6:12Davina McCall:Look at that, look at that! Can we just discuss the shine? That's amazing. Are you pleased with it? Do you like it? Love, love, love, love, love. How confident are you now out of 10? Oh, 10 out of 10. That was a lot simpler than I thought I'd be. I'm so pleased. We did a thing. Thank you for trusting us. Yeah, thank you. You guys have done amazing. And thank you, Garnier and you, Therese. Love you.

6:41Davina McCall:You mentioned earlier about, you know, you've been married twice. and obviously you and Michelle, I know because I've done it, splitting up with somebody in the public eye is a fucking nightmare. Terrible, yeah. Oh my God. And you were kind of on good terms with both your exes. Exactly. Can you tell me what that's like going through that? It's so difficult to do it because it becomes public. and I don't you know people say well it's part and parcel of being a famous or a celebrity or whichever way you want to describe it but but you know personal lives and with your you know things basically I look back and I look back and we had this thing particularly back then whereas that is really that's a sight on your you know that you get divorced that's that's a failure you're to someone has to they used to have this thing that someone has to take the blame.

7:43Davina McCall:Yes. Which was ridiculous. It was so funny. Someone's got to be at fault to get a divorce. Exactly. Thankfully, that law has now changed. Because it was ridiculous. One of you had to admit, and you not only had to say, we had to invent something. We had to invent something for it. It was ridiculous. I mean, I took the blame for both marriages, but we had to make up the thing, because actually it was just an amicable arrangement. Because, you know, I look at it as I had two... People say they're failures. No, I had two really successful managers. Yeah, you did. Really good. 20 years together, four children, Michelle.

8:16Danielle, we had a few years. We split in the end because of children. And we're best mates, absolutely best mates now. We see each other regularly. So, and it works. And, you know, I'm not sure we're meant to be the same people forever. Some people are, which is great. And other people are not. But, you know, going through it in the media and it's front page news. and it's like, you know, when you've got kids as well, it makes it really, really hard to deal with. But it is part and parcel of being in the public eye, but I don't think it should be at least fair.