The Secret to Speaking Without Fear and Anxiety | Zuby

29:20What do you do? You have to earn it. You can't bypass competence. And with competence comes confidence and comes self-esteem. Maybe downstream of that should be, okay if you are that valuable and you are that worthy then within yourself within your own brain within within your own heart um recognize that and firstly you treat yourself that way before you expect other people if you don't respect yourself and you don't think you're valuable and you don't think that you're worthy of care like it's going to be you're going to project about you more than you do, especially complete strangers. So I think treat yourself that way.

30:08And when you treat yourself that way, it doesn't mean just staying the same. It means going, oh, okay, well, okay, well, I've got this body and I've only got one of them and it's got to last me my entire life. I should respect my body. I should be careful about what I, what I put into it. I should make sure I take care of it. Right. I shouldn't run it into the ground. Um, in terms of your knowledge, in terms of your skills, your abilities over time, work on them, develop them, hone them. And then I think a lot of people, I actually think a huge problem in our society is people actually strangely focusing on themselves too much.

30:43I think it's a big cause of what people call mental health problems, right? It's like a self-obsession, which might kind of sound strange to say, but when you focus more outwardly on, okay, how can I be useful? How can I be of service to others? How can I, you know, worry about others more than I worry about myself in a way, then it gets you out of your own head and it stops you kind of just focusing on all of your own emotions and your feelings and all these temporary things. And it's just like, cool, like, let me get out there and create something, build something. It's important to stay in motion, both physically and metaphorically, just to always be working towards working towards things building things creating things being amongst people all of that is very valuable and i think you can snuff out a lot of um the the negative talk and thoughts just by diving into these things and um being a part of them yeah you know it's an interesting point we were talking about elon before this and i remember seeing a video somewhere from him and he basically said like i don't do self-reflection at all He's like, I don't do that.

31:56And then Marc Andreessen sort of parroted that. And in some ways, I understand that. I mean, we're sitting in Austin, Texas, the capital of self-help and ayahuasca. And I have so many friends that have been on 37 mushroom journeys with a shaman and done the thing in Peru and whatever. And I think you should do you and whatever you're into, that's great. But a weird thing starts happening, talk about similarities, where they look so much inward. There's this belief that they're God all of a sudden. I've seen it again and again. And people that I know really well and respect in many ways will say, well, I have the answers, sort of I'm God, I know what's coming.

32:40And then they will also just obsess on their own journey. It becomes much less building anymore. Building becomes less interesting to a lot of them, become less motivated and less focused I think on how to help other people beyond trying to get them to do mushroom journeys and shaman trips and wear feathered hats and whatever you're into. And so it's interesting you say that because we've seen this huge proliferation of self-help and mental health therapy and yet we're more unhappy than ever. And so it's like do you need to talk to a therapist or would some vitamin D and some strength training help as well?

33:20And I'm not qualified to say one versus the other, but it seems like a reasonable question. Yeah, like I said, I think a lot of fundamental pillars have been knocked out for millions of people and they're doing all sorts of things and exploring all sorts of avenues to try to replace them. The religion one is a really obvious one and I understand, look, not everyone's a Christian, not everyone's religious at all. There are, you know, not every people have all sorts of different beliefs and they're entitled to them, but it's kind of fascinating to me how many people will kind of reject traditional religion and the idea of God and so on, and then spend sometimes years or decades basically trying to substitute it with something that is like, they're kind of going around like all these very roundabout ways to try to get back to the same thing.

34:11This is very much the, you know, I'm not really just, but I'm spiritual kind of thing. And, you know, like you said, all of these journeys and all of these views and they're taking from this one and this one and this one. And I'm kind of like, you're just taking like a really long path to kind of get back to get back to that basic. If we talk about community, what you mentioned about therapy is really interesting, right? Because not so long ago, and it's certainly in most of the world, your quote unquote therapists Buddhists are predominantly your brothers, your sisters, your parents, your friends, the people who are around you, the people in your community, the elders, your pastor, whoever it might be, right?

34:49These are the people. Oh, I've got these problems. I have these worries, these concerns. I need this guidance. I'm not going to pay a random professional stranger to sit down and talk to them. And I understand there are niche situations where therapy probably makes sense. If you've been to war and you've been seeing all this horrible stuff where you've been the victim of some horrific crime or something and you need like very specific niche help. I understand that. But I don't think like the average middle class, you know, 16 year old or 26 year old or 36 year old who hasn't been through some like real trauma as a major issue.

35:24The idea that they all sort of need to be in therapy is very foreign and bizarre to me. I think that's why, at least the point of everything that we focus on here is we always say you should talk to the person. That one person who's listening to us, they can change their life. They could skip spending all the money on therapy consistently and just go build something, starting with their body maybe, starting with the business. I had an employee here who was actually a really high performer. I think really highly of her. And one day she came to me and she said, you know, I've been going to therapy and talking to my therapist about work and I don't really know what I'm doing, but I'm having a hard time figuring it out.

36:03And my therapist says like, you know, if this is causing me anxiety, I should just quit and I should take some time to think about what I want and I should just go figure that out. And I go, let's just, let's just play this because I actually think she's a high performer. And I said, you should do whatever you want to do. And this is like a life path for you, but do you want to hear my two cents? And she said yes, so obviously I yapped. And my response was, what is going to make you have to touch the world in order to understand and change things. So if you go home and you sit in your apartment and you don't talk to other people about their career paths, what is the natural inclination that you're going to find what you actually want?

36:44And if something is hard, do we have to stop it? And I thought it was so fascinating because she kind of went to therapy every Wednesday or Thursday every week. And I said, how long have we been going to therapy? Well, you know, 10 years. The same therapist? Interesting. Do we have a deep-seated issue we have to handle? No. What is it? Well, anxiety and I kind of don't know what I want to do next. Why can we not deeply figure this out? Why can you not figure this out? And why do you have to kind of like secede all of your thoughts to this other human that you have to pay to listen to you? It's a very weird construct if you actually think about it.

37:18Stranger gives advice on life they don't have to live with no repercussions for actions. Not a great incentive alignment. And so I think it's really interesting. I guess one of the other places I'd want to go with you is like, I think part of these issues are that it's scary being against the norm. And you had a quote that I loved that was basically like, most people would want to be with the majority instead of be right. And I remember when I first started following you online, I was like, God, he's got balls, you know? And I bet that like you just, you were willing to say things, especially at that time that were so outside of the norm.

37:58And of course you resonated with a lot of people, but a lot of people just went to battle against you. And so my circle back here is, I think people are scared. And if they found out how to have more courage and less fear, then maybe they would be able to change their lives. And I don't know if that's right, but maybe it'll help one person. And so I guess I would ask you, what do you do when you're scared to say something or do something? How do you do it anyway? Do you want a real answer? Yeah. I fear God. I don't fear man. I'd rather be canceled by man than canceled by God. So the strength of my faith and the worldview that's derived from that, it snuffs out a lot of the day-to-day fears that I think a lot of people deal with.

38:50So in terms of the, oh, I might get a negative comment, or I might get backlash, or I might be called this name, or whatever, if I believe that righteously and morally what I'm saying is important and needs to be said, then I'll say it. Is there anything you do fear or that still creeps in despite your faith? And what do you do when that happens? Is there a prayer you say to God? Is there a walk that you take? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think I've heard, I think I've seen you tweet that every time that you fear or worry you're practicing atheism, right? but he's often for me still a warrior and i love i love that quote um and so look i'm a human being right i'm not i'm not i'm not bulletproof literally or figuratively right i of course i have my my fears and my concerns for the world at large and for humanity and myself you know i have a wife and you know a child now lord willing many more to come um so you know i have the the basic human fears and concerns um but you know i have a lot of trust in god and i have a lot of trust i guess in my in myself and my ability so whatever comes down the pipeline i believe that i'm capable and competent enough to deal with it.

40:22So when I zoom out and I think, okay, whatever I'm worried or concerned about, if I zoom out. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required compatibility and availability varies 18 plus. Cody, it's so silly that in some cases, the worries and concerns that you or I may have are a result of the worry is something that is stemming from something that was like a previous dream.

41:13Right. You're running, you're running a company. and with that comes responsibility and pressure and challenges and you're trying to do all these cool and amazing things and so on so sure that you've got these issues and complications and things you're trying to work out with people or with systems or whatever but you're like wait to even have this problem how lucky am i to even be able to to have this worry right like how many people even have that right like this is what i dreamed of this is what i wanted this is what i This is what I fought for. Right. So that that's how I frame things. This is literally what I wanted and what I chose.

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43:02And then after a while, you keep lifting heavier and heavier and it seems the same way with your mind. And so I love this idea of like sort of first zoom in all the way out, which is that God is the only thing to fear. Then zoom in out with most humans have it harder than I do. And then, you know, zooming in a little bit, which is remember you asked for this. And it's like, it takes me to that other quote of like, my husband sometimes quotes it at me I'm like, but he'll say, he'll say, you know, don't get mad when there's a lot on your plate because you said you wanted to eat. And I'm like, you're right, you know, don't use that with your wife.

43:40That's not, that's not there. I might use it in a song. Put it in a rap song. Yeah. It's not mine. So you could use it. That's like public, but that's really helpful actually. And I guess, One other way that I would be curious your take, sometimes it's not the random haters and the people on the internet that hurt. It's like, how do you overcome the people that you love wanting you to live a different type of life? And I think these days, if most people are going for less God, less family, less success, less building, you're going to have people who love you, but they want you to stay the same.

44:19And they don't want you to change. And the ones who discourage you sometimes are even the closest to you. And I'm sure it's happened to you, too. You know, what do you do when somebody that you love and care about actually feels you're disappointing them, but you believe you should be? Well, I think it's important to actually think it's important to listen to everyone. This is not I know a lot of people say you don't don't listen to people. I actually think you should listen to everyone, but it doesn't mean that everyone is correct or you need to take everyone's advice. If somebody genuinely loves and cares about you, I believe it's always worth hearing them out.

44:55If you know that someone has your best interest in mind, then generally speaking, they are going to be coming from a perspective of what they think is best for you in terms of protecting you and keeping you safe. Those things probably primarily. They're probably thinking more about your safety and security than your success or dreams being fulfilled type of thing. So I say with those individuals, certainly listen. But then it's up to you to decide what to take on board and what to discard and what to do differently. And it's also up to you to live with the consequences of that. if you want to go out and do something that is weird, out of the norms, strange, it could just be starting a company, becoming a creative, making whatever YouTube videos you want, pursuing something that's unorthodox.

45:49There will always be people who warn you against them. And that doesn't come from a bad place because statistically speaking, most people who pursue those things, it's certainly not a sure thing. And most people are like, are you sure? So I would recognize that is not coming from a malicious place with those type of individuals and then um and then do what's what's best and also recognize that sometimes people won't believe in you until you prove them until you prove that you can actually do it if you say you want to do this crazy thing even your parents even your siblings even your close friends there will always be that person who like believes in you maybe more than you do and eggs you on but a lot of people won't believe you can do it until you actually do it.

46:35Was there ever anyone who said something to you that really stuck when you were building? I mean, you've had multiple careers, you know, and from an author to a rapper to a business builder to a podcaster to an internet personality, many things. But can you remember somebody who said something that stuck with you about how you weren't going to make it? And like, does that fuel you or do you just ignore it? It's a good question. The honest answer is no, at least not anyone whose opinion I particularly care about. I'm very fortunate and blessed that my family have always supported me, even when I knew for sure that they had doubts or they thought that I was being a little bit crazy.

47:21So to give the most obvious example, I mean, I quit my job in 2011. So I've been self-employed now as a creative entrepreneur for 15 years. so and I quit my job when I was 24 okay so I went to Oxford University I studied computer science I graduated when I was 20 obviously there's a lot of a lot of things I could do I went into the corporate world I was a management consultant for three years and then at the beginning of going into the third year I made a decision that by the end of that year I was going to quit and I wanted to become a full-time rapper and to an outsider that might sound completely insane to someone at the company that might seem nuts like what you're gonna why did you even get that degree and do all this if you just want to become a rapper right like it seems very strange to people but you know and I've actually know people who were kind of in similar positions who wanted to do something more unorthodox and actually they let the people around them sometimes including their very own parents discourage them to the point that they either didn't pursue the thing at all or they started and then they quit um i thank god that my parents are especially being nigerian parents nigerian and african and asian parents in particular have like a you know it must be a doctor a lawyer like you know accountant type of thing right like people have that viewpoint because there's so much focus on education and traditional achievement and so And again, that's about that stability and security.

48:53It doesn't come from a bad place. But I think I don't know if it's just that, like, I'm the fifth child and my parents were like, well, we've already got four successful kids. So, you know, we can let Zuby go off and pursue his crazy thing. But, you know, I just I just think genuinely they they believed in me and they also just knew they, you know, certainly when you're a kid, your parents probably know you better than you do. and my parents often comment on like how from a very young age I was always very determined and like I would pursue what I wanted and I didn't give up and so on so I think they just knew like look whatever Zuby sets his mind to he's going to achieve some level of success so if he wants to be a rapper if he wants to start a business if he wants to climb the corporate ladder whatever he does if we give it time he's gonna he's gonna succeed at it so I think they they just had that belief in that faith and um you know like my every single album i've put out my mom's been the first person to buy.

49:50I love that. You know they're subscribed to my youtube channel they like you know someone writes a hate comment on my facebook page my mama might be jumping there in the comments right my mommy.

50:03Sometimes she'll send it to me too like you what Ashley's a real bitch. I don't know Ashley. I don't know why are we? Yeah so I'm so fortunate in that regard that I haven't had to like fight against my loved ones and have that like extra uphill battle to you know pursue the things that I do. But you know there have been times especially over the last seven years where I've been a lot more publicly outspoken you know there have been things that I've posted which have like gone viral where you know it's gone so viral that it's like reached my siblings workplaces or it's reached like my parents community or whatever and people are sending oh is this your son like who said this thing especially during like you know the covid time or whatever you know so i have had things where they're like oh you know like what did you you know maybe they maybe felt that one was like a little bit too much or something and like i said i i will always listen yeah um and you know sometimes i'll be like yeah okay maybe i could have framed that one a little bit maybe i was a little bit harsh there.

51:00But other times I'm like, yeah, I know people didn't want to hear that, but ultimately that is what I actually honestly think. Yeah. But I think that's good because these days people say, like, there's one real aggressive side of the equation, which is like, I think I hear a lot of young women say like, I have boundaries. I don't need to listen to feedback. You know, if they don't support me, they're not on my side. And that's really actually isolated because I've never met another human that I agree with 100 % of everything they agree on. And so that would be, could you imagine if you could only be friends with people that you had to agree on every single thing?

51:37That would be ludicrous. And so I think it's kind of liberating to say you should, it's funny from you too, because I think if people didn't meet you and they just listened to you online, they might think he'll be tough. He doesn't listen to the trolls. Don't read the comments. But in fact, you're kind of the opposite. You're like, if I believe that your opinion is valid I'd like to hear it yeah and even if I don't think your opinion is valid um sometimes I find it funny like I've I've read some I've received some hate on the internet which genuinely makes sometimes it's so good and I share it with my audience right I'm like guys you check out this one I've added them to my bio before right me too can I tell you my favorite it's so inappropriate it's cussing but um but one time I said I don't like to pick up people from the airport, which I stand by.

52:24I will send you an Uber. I don't want to come to the airport. I will do many other things for you. Harder things, I think. But apparently the internet finds that unbelievably rude. And they think that I am the worst. And so I really kind of got a kick out of that. And so one of the retweets was great. It was like, no wonder this cantankerous has no friends and i don't know why i first of all i think we should use the word cantankerous and you're british so you guys actually use the c word i don't think americans were allowed to okay i know i know you're good i'm good um but it really gave me a chuckle yeah and so you're right the kind of it's like uh hear people's opinions but let them rest lightly yeah and when it comes to strangers as well because i do get a lot of questions from people about how do you deal with the online date or whatever.

53:16First of all, a lot of it is not real. But secondly, it's remarkable how many people allow... I have another quote. I say, like, never let the opinion of a stranger on the internet ruin your day. You have to remember a lot of it has nothing to do with you. There are, right now as we speak, let's see, there's 8 billion people in the world, about 5 billion on social media. I would say right now there's at least 200 million people in the world right now scrolling social media looking for somebody to be mad at. Right now. At least 200 million. Right now. They're looking literally on Instagram X. They're looking for somebody to be mad at.

53:55And sometimes you just come across. Sometimes your face just pops up. Giving your take. Saying your hot take. And they're like, F you. like some sometimes you're just that person and so it's not it's not about you personally it was someone was having a bad day and you just happened to pop up and you know maybe you your thing was getting generating a lot of conversation and you just catch their ire that day so it's not about you it's it's genuinely about them okay i do want to end with like two things so we've talked a lot about you know what's happening with men we've talked about not being fearful i want to talk about the other side for a second, which is how do you live a meaningful life?

54:43Like in your mind, if a young person is searching for meaning and purpose, what is the way to lead a meaningful life that actually matters? It's an excellent question. And I genuinely do think that the answer is different for different people in terms of the specifics, at least. And I think, Cody, I think that if you think of it for most, for the first 20 years of most people's lives, they're kind of just on train tracks that they didn't create for themselves. You don't choose your family, your parents, where you were born. You probably didn't choose what school you went to. You probably didn't choose what subjects you studied.

55:21At the beginning, you're kind of just, cool, go through the school system and other people make all these decisions for you. And I think as a result of that, a lot of people get to their late teens or sometimes even their early 20s and they've never genuinely like deeply thought about what they want and what they value and so this is where uh you know that therapist you mentioned earlier on you know this is like the tidbit i'd say like where i think there's something to be taken from that is to is to genuinely think of like okay not just what society or my parents or my family or my school has told me like what are the things I genuinely value and what do I what would a meaningful life look like you know what would it what would it look like what would it look like to you because different people value different things in different orders and life is full of sacrifices and trade-offs we don't like to talk we I wish our society would talk more about trade-offs because almost everything is a trade-off literally by you and I being here it means right now it means that we're not somewhere else.

56:29By marrying one person, you're not marrying everyone else. By living in one city, you're eschewing all the other places that you could live, right? So before you go about doing that blindly, I think it's very important to think about it consciously. So if you've just, say you're a higher achiever, you're someone who's always gotten good grades, you went to a good university, so on, you can automatically, unconsciously, put on a track to think that career and or money are the top priority when actually for you they're not right so you're on this pathway and you're just trying to maximize career and money and in doing so you're sacrificing lots of other things perhaps your health perhaps your relationships maybe you're living somewhere you don't want to do perhaps you're sacrificing hobbies sacrificing dreams and so on whereas in reality there are other things you care about more so i think it's important to take that pause and go through that exercise, I guess, of really thinking, okay, what are the things like I really, really care about?

57:28So for me personally, I realized early on, like 20-ish, that I really, really value my own, how would I call it? Personal liberty, autonomy, ability to make my own decisions when I want to the degree that I value money, I value it mostly to the degree, firstly, to the degree that will enable that. And then to the degree I also knew I care a lot about family. I care a lot about my pre-existing family that I come from, but I also care a lot about being able to create my own family. And before I ever had children, I spent a lot of time thinking of like what I want to do for my children and be able to pass on to them and so on.

58:08There's only three ways money motivates me. One, being able to have that freedom and autonomy, even in terms of like geography, in terms of where I live and so on, and not to have to be like constantly worrying about being able to meet basic needs. That's the first. Number two is being able to provide for a family. Like I've told people for years and years, like God willing, I'd love to have at least five kids. First conversation I ever had with my now wife. How many kids do you want? brain bite if you're all like oh i don't know this is not gonna work right so um you know i want to be able to provide for them and to be able to give a good life and then number three is i'd like to have an abundance to be able to give and help a lot of people and so i thought about all this early so it may once you do this it makes it a lot easier to make decisions because you know what serves your purpose and what doesn't and it makes it easier to um prioritize and prioritization is very important because depending on what your goals are and how you probably how um how those things are ranked you there are some life paths you you don't want to take if you're someone who does this if you're a 20 year old man or a woman and you decide okay you know like actually the number one thing for me is like, I want to get married and have kids, then it would be very foolish and self-destructive to pursue a path for the next 10 or 20 years that steers you away from that, that makes those things even harder and harder to achieve.

59:41Right. And again, everything is, everything is trade-offs. So if you prioritize this one, you might have to deprioritize this one, least for a time, for a season. It doesn't mean you can't do multiple things. You can, but you can't realistically do every single thing at once, right? You know, it's interesting because I think most of us fall into mimetic desire, right? So we become an amalgamation of all the things around us, like a mirror in a hall of mirrors. And so then you end up having this life that you didn't architect, you don't actually want, turns out actually doesn't make you very happy because introspection is hard when it's real, when you're actually asking yourself the very tough questions, aka one trade-off versus another.

1:00:24So I like that. But you're also really an inspiration in that way because a typical career path is not Oxford, rapper, author, wayne lifter, podcaster, internet or you know that's not normal no really actually and so and then to go even more into ideologically what you want can i say something yeah a lot of people might look at hear what you just said and look at all the things that i do and have done and think it's kind of random um it's all the same thing my goal has been consistent since i was 19 i want to use my voice and my words to positively impact millions of people. That has been my explicit goal since I was 19.

1:01:10That's why I wanted to become a rapper. And so whether I'm podcasting, whether I'm on stage, whether I'm on TV, I'm doing an interview, I'm writing a book, it's all towards the exact same purpose. So I might look different and scattered to someone else, but it's all the same thing. Yeah. Well, I think the more interesting part is that it's, you can't have looked at somebody else's career and thought, oh, I'm going to mimic that because you didn't really exist. Now there are now rappers who have written books and there are probably authors that have become rappers, although I don't think that's as common.

1:01:48And so anyway, I think that part's cool. And it just goes to show if you're listening right now and you have a weird thing you want to do in the world, weird as a not normal for everybody else, there's a way to do that. And I think you're an inspiration in that way. I guess the one part I want to end on here is for that person listening who maybe feels a little lost or isolated in this world, if you're here to share words to change people's lives, what are the words you would leave them with? Life is very much worth living and it has its ups and downs and the downs can last a long time it can feel unbearable at times um but i always just tell people it sounds cliche but man just keep on going just keep moving forward if you're going through something difficult if you keep going forward you will you will get through it it will pass time does heal things um and there's just so much goodness and positivity that already exists in which you can also create and contribute to so rather than focusing on the darkness all the time and all the negativity do your best i know it's hard to do a hundred percent of the time but do your best to focus on the light and focus on the positive and be a part of it.

1:03:13What's your favorite rap lyric you've ever written? Oh, a hot one-liner. Is that what the kids say? Oh gosh. When I was 19, I wrote that, you know, you can call it masturbation because I'm feeling myself. I thought that was, I thought that was, that's not on grants for you today. This is not on it. You're like, fine God, I'll so masturbate. I wrote that one when I was 19. It was funny. No, I'm trying to think of something deeper. Okay, what's your favorite rap song you've written? One of my favorites is a song I made just called Perseverance. And it's basically about, in all, everything we're talking about.

1:03:56Just persevering and just continuing doing what you're doing and trying. That's really what it's about. It's just about hope. Okay, I like it. Zuby, where do you like people to follow you? A lot. I am on X, Instagram, YouTube, and Facebook, all at Zuby Music, Z-U-B-Y Music. And you can find my podcast, Real Talk with Zuby, on all platforms. And you can find all my music on all platforms. Just search Zuby, Z-U-B-Y. Easy to find. I have a lot of stuff out there. So pick and choose. I love it. whatever you find value in. Well, thank you so much. I happen to subscribe to all of them. My favorite is X.

1:04:39Thank you. And also I like your YouTube and I like your Instagram too because it's more personal. Thank you. So thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing this and thank you for being really loud about opinions that need to be said in the world. I appreciate Cody and you too. God bless. Thanks, man.

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