US, Australia Ink Rare Earths Deal; Supreme Court to Hear Trump Tariffs Case

21 Oct 2025 · 15 min

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US, Australia Ink Rare Earths Deal; Supreme Court to Hear Trump Tariffs Case

Overview In this episode of Bloomberg Daybreak, hosts Nathan Hager and Karen Moskow cover significant developments in US politics, foreign relations, and the economy. The episode delves into a landmark agreement between the US and Australia regarding rare earth minerals, ongoing discussions about Trump-era tariffs, and implications for international relations.

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Key Discussions

  1. US-Australia Rare Earths Agreement
  2. Context: President Trump signed a historic deal with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese aimed at enhancing US access to critical minerals, countering China's dominance in rare earth supply chains.
  3. Details of the Deal:
  4. The agreement involves a joint investment in various mines and processing projects in Australia.
  5. It targets production of essential commodities for advanced technologies, including electric vehicles and semiconductors.
  6. Albanese noted an $8.5 billion investment pipeline ready to be implemented.
  7. Challenges:
  8. Analysts caution that while the deal is a strategic step, it may take 8-9 years for new mines to become operational.
  1. Supreme Court and Trump Tariffs
  2. Current Situation: Small businesses are urging the Supreme Court to support lower court rulings that Trump’s global tariffs constitute an illegal tax.
  3. Legal Basis: The case revolves around the legality of tariffs imposed under the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
  4. Impacts on Businesses:
  5. Companies like Learning Resources argue that tariffs infringe on Congress’s taxation powers, impacting market operations.
  6. The tariffs have notably affected sectors such as luxury watch sales, with Swiss exports to the US dropping significantly.
  1. Potential Sanctions Legislation Against Russia
  2. Legislation Update: Senate Majority Leader John Thune indicated a pause on new sanctions against Russia until Trump meets with President Putin.
  3. Proposed Measures:
  4. The legislation would give Trump authority to impose tariffs of up to 500% on imports from countries maintaining Russian energy purchases without supporting Ukraine.
  1. Government Shutdown
  2. Current Situation: The federal government remains shut down as Senate negotiations continue over funding.
  3. Responses:
  4. Republican Senator Ted Cruz criticized Democrats for prolonging the shutdown.
  5. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer emphasized the need for negotiations to reopen the government.
  1. Other Notable Stories
  2. Amazon Cloud Services: Amazon reported the restoration of its cloud services after a significant global disruption.
  3. Netflix Earnings Preview: Anticipations rise for Netflix's earnings report, with expectations for revenue growth driven by new content and advertising sales.
  4. Thanksgiving Turkey Prices: Walmart announced its lowest turkey prices in years amid tight production conditions.

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Key Takeaways

  • The US-Australia rare earths deal signifies a strategic shift to reduce reliance on Chinese supplies.
  • The Supreme Court's upcoming decision on tariffs could have far-reaching implications for American businesses and trade policy.
  • Legislative efforts regarding sanctions on Russia are closely tied to international diplomatic engagements.
  • The government shutdown presents ongoing challenges, affecting various sectors and federal employee compensation.

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Conclusion This episode of Bloomberg Daybreak provides critical insights into the evolving landscape of US foreign relations, economic policies, and domestic challenges. As key players engage in negotiations, the outcomes will have significant implications for various industries and international dynamics.

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0:00Hello, I'm Stephen Carroll. I'm in Brussels where many of Europe's biggest decisions get made. And I'm Caroline Hepker in London with the hosts of the Bloomberg Daybreak Europe podcast. We're up early every weekday keeping an eye on what's happening across Europe and around the world. We do it early so the news is fresh, not recycled and so you know what actually matters as the day gets going. From Brussels, I'm following the politics, policy and the people shaping the European Union right now. And from London, I'm looking at what all that means for markets, money and the wider economy. We've got reporters across Europe and around the globe feeding in as stories break.

0:37So whether it's geopolitics, energy, tech or markets, you're hearing it while it happens. It's smart, calm and to the point. And it fits into your morning. You can find new episodes of the Bloomberg Daybreak Europe podcast by 7am in Dublin or 8am in Brussels, Berlin and Paris. On Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:02Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. Karen, we begin with the latest on the trade front. Just days before expected talks with China in Malaysia, President Trump has signed an agreement with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to boost access to critical minerals and rare earths. The deal is part of efforts to secure a stable supply of critical minerals, with Australia positioning itself as a viable alternative to China. President Trump says his administration is still talking to Beijing about a trade deal.

1:40I expect we'll probably work out a very fair deal with President Xi of China. So most of you will be with us. It's going to be very exciting. And I think we're going to work out something that's good for both countries. President Trump spoke from the White House. The U.S.-China trade truce is set to expire November 10th. Well, Nathan, the Supreme Court is set to hear arguments next month over President Trump's global tariffs. But before that, a group of small businesses is weighing in. They file briefs urging the high court to affirm lower court rulings that the tariffs amount to an illegal tax on American companies.

2:14One of the companies, Learning Resources, says the president usurped Congress's power to tax by invoking an emergency law that was never intended to be used to impose duties on other countries. A second brief, led by wine and liquor distributor VOS Selections, says the tariffs contradict what the nation's founders intended by giving Congress the power to levy taxes. And Karen, we're seeing the impact of U.S. tariffs on sales of luxury watches. Swiss watch exports fell in September, hurt by the Trump administration's 39 percent tariff on imports from Switzerland. In fact, there was a 55 percent plunge in exports to the U.S., which is the watch industry's largest market.

2:54Meanwhile, in Washington, Nathan, the government remains shut down after the Senate failed to pass Republican Stop Gap funding bill again yesterday. Republican Senator Ted Cruz says he thinks Democrats are prolonging the shutdown. There are 14 ,000 air traffic controllers who expected to come into work, but they didn't get a full paycheck. And this needs to end. It's not right. It's not fair. And I think Democrats are holding not only the U.S. government hostage, but holding the American people hostage. Senator Ted Cruz tells Bloomberg he does not know when the government will reopen. Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says Republicans need to negotiate.

3:32It's been over a month since the House of Representatives even took a single roll call vote. That's shameful. That's derelict. Government workers must work without getting paid. House Republicans get paid without working. And Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says health care premiums are a fix-it-now issue and should be negotiated before the government reopens. Well, in the meantime, Karen, the shutdown is having an impact on dealmaking. Anglo-Dutch consumer goods company Unilever has pushed back its demerger of Magnum ice cream. The company says the Securities and Exchange Commission is unable to declare effective the registration statement that's required for the ice cream company's shares to be admitted to the New York Stock Exchange.

4:15Unilever does expect to complete the spinoff of Magnum this year after initially being on track for the middle of next month. Now we get to the latest on the war in Ukraine. Nathan, Senate Majority Leader John Thune says he's hitting the pause button on new sanctions legislation against Russia until after President Trump's planned meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The bill would formalize sanctions that are already in place and impose up to 500 percent tariffs on imports from countries that buy Russian energy products and are not actively supporting Ukraine. During his meeting with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, President Trump was asked if he still thinks Ukraine could win the war.

4:55I don't think they will, but they could still win it. I never said they would win it. I said they could win. Anything can happen. You know, war is a very strange thing. President Trump spoke at the White House. He plans to meet with Putin in Budapest after meeting last week with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The president came away from that meeting undecided on whether to supply Ukraine with long-range missiles. Well, Karen, Amazon says all its cloud services are restored. This follows issues that disrupted Internet use around the world for about 15 hours yesterday. Sarah Fryer covers tech for Bloomberg News.

5:29When a large chunk of the Internet is reliant on one service, there are all these cascading effects, right? They said there was an issue in a database that was loading incorrectly. And that just had this domino effect for a large portion of the Internet. Hundreds of sites, according to Bloomberg's Sarah Fryer, including financial services outfits Venmo and Robinhood markets, Apple's music and TV offerings, software companies such as Zoom, Salesforce and Snowflake, food services giants including McDonald's and gaming companies like Epic Games. Even Amazon's own services, Alexa and the Ring home security system, were not immune.

6:09Well, Nathan, earnings start to pick up this week, and Netflix reports after the close of trading today, Bloomberg's Tom Busby has more on what investors expect to see. Expect a combination of new hits like that blockbuster K-pop Demon Hunters movie and returning hits like the latest season of Squid Games to give earnings a big boost, along with growing advertising sales from its live sporting events and its ad-supported subscription tier. Also, expect to get a little boost from some favorable foreign exchange rates. Bloomberg consensus calls for revenue of$11.52 billion, less than half of that coming from the U.S.

6:42and Canada, and earnings per share of$6.94. Tom Busby, Bloomberg Radio. All right, Tom, thank you. Finally, maybe a little cheaper to buy that Thanksgiving turkey next month. Walmart says it'll offer its lowest prices in years for butterball turkeys, 97 cents per pound, the cheapest since 2019. Turkey production's been tight due to shrinking flocks and the resurgence of avian flu.

7:09time now for a look at some of the other stories making news in new york and around the world and for that we're joined by bloomberg's michael barr michael good morning good morning karen israel's military says palestinian militants in gaza have handed over another body of a hostage the remains of 13 hostages have been handed over since the ceasefire began it is shaky at best after a weekend of deadly clashes between the two sides at the white house president trump says he still believes the ceasefire will hold and suggest other nations could get involved. We had a dark cloud over the Middle East, and now it's all, I mean, we have a little situation relatively with Hamas, and that will be taken care of very quickly if they don't straighten it out themselves.

7:54Meanwhile, White House advisors Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff are back in Israel this week. Police in Atlanta say they thwarted what could have been a mass shooting at one of the country's busiest airports. Authorities say Billy Cagle of nearby Cartersville drove to the south terminal of Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport to assess crowd levels, but police say they were alerted to his activities by family members and arrested him at the airport. Chief Darren Shirebaum says they found an assault rifle in his pickup truck. I do believe that Mr. Cagle was headed back to his truck to retrieve it, and I do believe he was likely to use that weapon inside the crowded terminal that he had just seen.

8:37Chief Shirebom says Cagle was not able to legally own a gun since he is a convicted felon. New York City police are looking for answers after a newborn baby was left in a subway station during the busy Monday morning commute. An anonymous caller led police to the baby at the station on West 34th Street and 7th Avenue. Fortunately, the newborn girl was wrapped in a blanket and is okay. New York City Transit President Demetrius Critchlow called her the miracle on 34th Street. Just grateful for the work of the NYPD in responding and caring for the baby. Police brought the baby to Bellevue Hospital and she's in stable condition.

9:17Nicolas Sarkozy entered prison after his conviction for criminal conspiracy, marking the first time a former French president goes to jail. Sarkozy, who was convicted last month after aides allegedly sought electoral funding from Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's regime, has consistently denied any wrongdoing. Global News 24 hours a day and whenever you want it. With Bloomberg News Now, I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg. Karen. Thanks, Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports Update, and for that, we bring in John Stashauer. Thanks, Karen. A thrilling Game 7 to end the American League Championship Series in Toronto.

9:53Seattle took a 3-1 lead to the seventh inning when George Springer hit a three-run homer off Edward Bizzardo. The Blue Jays won the game 4-3 and won the series 4-3. The World Series, starting Friday, will be the Blue Jays against the Dodgers. NFL Monday Night Football, Detroit at home beat Tampa Bay 24-9. Seattle at home beat Houston 27-19. That's your Bloomberg Sports Update. Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Daybreak coming up after this. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall. The time is approximately 11.15 a.m. About to start consensual telephone call with Dr. Daiwa Zhang.

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11:46Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM and around the world on Bloomberg.com and the Bloomberg Business App. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. President Donald Trump has signed a landmark deal with Australia to counter China's dominance in rare earths. But the president is still sounding optimistic on making a trade deal when he meets with Chinese President Xi Jinping at the end of the month. If we don't make a deal, we'll charge them a very substantial tariff. and they'll be paying us hundreds of billions of dollars a year, which they're basically paying right now.

12:21That was the president during his meeting with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at the White House. And for more, we're joined this morning from Hong Kong by Jenny Marsh, Bloomberg's team leader for Greater China Economy and Government. Jenny, good morning. Walk us through this deal that was struck between President Trump and Prime Minister Albanese and what it could mean for China's stranglehold on rare earths. So Trump and Albanese have struck this deal to help the U.S. secure better access to China, rare earths, to rare earths rather. I mean, for China, this is interesting because it shows that the U.S.

13:00is now sort of turning to other countries to try and secure these rare earths. It's an$8.5 billion agreement. And, you know, the U.S. is a significant ally in this because it is currently home to the only company that is actually sort of mining and processing heavy rare earths at the moment. So Australia already in the past has helped Japan sort of wean itself off rare earth dependence. And so now the U.S. is sort of turning to Australia to do a similar thing for it as China sort of wields its chokehold over these supply chains. So will this be enough in the short term for the U.S. to sort of wean itself off its dependence on Chinese rare earths?

13:48It's going to take a long time. I mean, this$8.5 billion deal, you know, it's going to take things to the next level. They said that it's going to take years, you know. There are sort of various estimates out there of how long it takes for new mines to come online. but you know i think goldman sachs had a note this morning saying can be eight to nine years just for a new mine and then to build out sort of the processing capabilities as well also takes a very long time and these plants are often dependent on chinese machinery as we've seen in malaysia so this is a step in the right direction it's a good thing that the u.s is sort of looking beyond its own borders you know it took that sake in mp materials but now it's sort of turning to the experts in Australia as well to try and beef up its capabilities.

14:32But, you know, this isn't going to produce results of any sort of meaningful scale that will allow the U.S. to sort of reduce its dependence on China for years, you know, probably until after Trump's presidency finishes. And of course, this all comes after China announced these restrictions on rare earth exports and that sort of upset reaction that we heard from President Trump regarding that. Is this kind of deal what the U.S. has struck with Australia, the kind of thing that could move China when it comes to its own plans for rare earths? I think this is exactly the kind of thing that China's latest restrictions are aimed at stopping.

15:10because those restrictions, you know, that China unveiled this month put curbs on the export of machinery and that sort of the ability of foreign companies and plants to process the rare earth that China is helping to extract from the ground. And so when you look at those curbs, what they're sort of really the intention there is, they want to try and keep this leverage for as long as they can. You know, the thing about putting these sort of export controls on a product is they immediately sort of start a race for other countries to reduce their dependency on you. So you're telling everybody, you know, we're going to use this as a weapon.

15:48So people don't want to sort of find alternatives. And I think China understands that. And what it just wants to do is slow down the sort of collaboration that the U.S. and Australia really are kicking off here so that it can use this leverage for as long as it possibly can do. So in our last 30 seconds, what could this mean for the meeting that we're still expecting between Presidents Trump and Xi in South Korea at the end of the month? Yeah, I mean, rare earths will be a big part of that. I think this enables Trump to go to Xi and say, look, you know, you've got this big leverage over me, but we have friends and allies around the world who are willing to work with us to sort of expedite our ability to mine and process our own rare earth.

16:29So it gives Trump a little bit more sort of clout going into that meeting. But I think she probably knows he has a pretty good hand when it comes to rare.

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On today's podcast:
1) President Trump signed a landmark pact with visiting Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to boost America’s access to rare earths and other critical minerals, an effort to counter China’s tight grip on the supply chains of key metals. The two governments will jointly invest in a swathe of mines and processing projects in Australia to boost production of commodities used in advanced technologies from electric vehicles to semiconductors and fighter planes. Australia has an $8.5 billion “pipeline that we have ready to go,” Albanese said at a meeting between the two leaders at the White House.
2) Small businesses are urging the US Supreme Court to affirm lower court rulings that President Trump's global tariffs amount to a massive illegal tax on American companies. The justices are set to hear arguments on whether Trump legally issued the tariffs under the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act, a law that gives the president financial tools to address national security, foreign policy and economic emergencies.
3) Senate Majority Leader John Thune says he will wait until President Trump meets with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the coming weeks before deciding to whether to bring legislation on Russia sanctions to a vote. The bill would give Trump the authority to impose tariffs of up to 500% on imports from countries that buy Russian energy products and are not actively supporting Ukraine. This specifically targets major consumers of Russian energy, such as China and India.

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