In short
Bloomberg “Instant Reaction” to a Supreme Court ruling curbing the use of race in drawing voting districts, effectively gutting Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and enabling states to redraw maps with less legal constraint on race-based dilution of minority voting power.
Guests
June Grasso (Bloomberg legal analyst). Michael McKee (Bloomberg economics and international reporter).
Key claims
Roberts Court has been dismantling the Voting Rights Act in stages (preclearance gutted in Shelby County; now Section 2). The ruling lets states systematically dilute minority voting power without legal consequence. Gerrymandering based on politics remains allowed, and minority districts can be “traded” for surrounding white-majority districts.
Notable examples
Louisiana likely to act; Florida already trying to redraw; Louisiana’s “sliver” district shapes; Texas and other Southern states previously covered under preclearance.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSupreme Court Ruling Overview
1:24 to 2:14
Breaking down the implications of the Supreme Court's ruling on race in voting.
“This is a breaking news update from Bloomberg.”
Impact on the Voting Rights Act
2:14 to 5:10
Discussion on the history and current state of the Voting Rights Act.
“Instant reaction and analysis from our 3 ,000 journalists and analysts around the world.”
Gerrymandering and District Drawing
5:10 to 6:50
Exploring the practice of gerrymandering and its implications on democracy.
“So I don't think there's much left of the Voting Rights Act.”
Immediate Consequences of the Ruling
6:50 to 8:30
Discussing the immediate actions states may take following the ruling.
“So the way to do it is to, you know, have a commission.”
Long-term Effects on Minority Voting Power
8:30 to 10:00
Analysis of how the ruling may dilute minority voting power.
“And it's okay to gerrymander based on politics.”
Reaction and Future Implications
10:00 to 11:40
Reactions from analysts on the ruling's implications for future elections.
“It used to be the very end of June, and then they would go on vacation, but it's now we've had a couple of times where it went into July Why?”
Transcript
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1:57that moves the business. Let's create smarter business. IBM. Bloomberg Audio Studios. Podcasts. Radio. News. This is a breaking news update from Bloomberg. Instant reaction and analysis from our 3 ,000 journalists and analysts around the world. Supreme Court ruling today curbs the use of race in drawing voting districts. Let's get some perspective on what all this means. June Grasso is our legal analyst at Bloomberg here. June, talk to us about just the background of this case and then maybe what we may know about this ruling here. So, I mean, the Voting Rights Act has been under fire for, you know, such a long time.
2:45And the Roberts Court has been very receptive to sort of destroying, I'll use the word destroying, the Voting Rights Act. In 2018, I believe it was, they took one part of the act which required preclearance. Certain states that had a history, considered to have a history of racism, Texas, et cetera, certain states in the South would have to get preclearance before they redistricted, before their plans were approved. They took away that. And now this is really the other significant part of the Voting Rights Act. The remaining part of the Voting Rights Act, which was passed in 1965 to address discrimination against black votes, and I'll just read a line from what the dissenting opinion of Justice Elena Kagan, the three liberals who are in dissent, said, Under the court's new view of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, a state can, without legal consequence, systematically dilute minority citizens' voting power.
3:44Of course, the majority does not announce today's holding that way, but it's understated, even antiseptic. So, I mean, this is really consequential and it's consequential for, I think, the Republicans, you know, holding the House. If some of this if some of these states can redistrict before the midterms. I mean, I don't know if that would be possible as far as timing, but it really it really is consequential for for voting rights. And the court has, you know, systematically, the years you hear them say, well, you know, we're so far away from the time of the Voting Rights Act. And there isn't I mean, I think Justice Roberts was the one who said in Shelby County, you know, we don't have that kind of discrimination anymore.
4:28So we don't. And how long can we keep doing this? How long can we keep having these rules that prioritize, you know, race in voting districts? So it's I think it's it's a stunning decision, although the court has been heading in this way for a long time. I think a lot of people hope that they wouldn't get to it at this point. But so, you know, it's really consequential. It's consequential. And you go back to the Voting Rights Act that you mentioned and how this is kind of part of the dismantling of it. What is left of the Voting Rights Act right now? You know, I don't think there's much left of it.
5:02I have to get an expert because the two biggest sections were the section that was eliminated or gutted in the Shelby County case and then this section. So I don't think there's much left of the Voting Rights Act. How are districts drawn up in the first place? I mean, that's my question. That is a great question. Gerrymandering? Have you seen some of the – Like, even if you look in Louisiana, in order to get to keep the House speaker in a Republican district, you know, they have these odd shapes that you would never imagine, you know, different kinds of weird shapes so they can get in people that they want.
5:42It's it's it's political at this point. It's, you know, and, you know, the Democratic states do it as well. The Republican states do it as well. And it's, you know, it's just the. I don't know. My old district in New Jersey, which we've since moved from, I finally saw it on a drawn somewhere and it was unbelievably. It's just a bunch of squiggly lines everywhere. How did they figure that out? Because having lived there, like, that's not how I think of my area. My area is this town, this town, this town, you know. No, it's been cherry picked. I mean, they have people who do this for a living, you know, and they have also, they have all kinds of, you know, electronic ways of doing it.
6:16But if If you looked at this, I mean, the one in Louisiana looks like a sliver up the coast. I mean, it's but all the states and, you know, there's the only thing that has happened is but only in Democratic states they've had maps drawn by commissions. So in that way, you get a fair map because it's drawn by a commission with maybe equal representatives. representatives, but only Democratic states have done that. And that's put them in a bad position, which is why you have some states like California redistricting in a different way, not using the commission. So the way to do it is to, you know, have a commission.
6:53But when you let Republicans or Democrats do it, they're going to do it to their own advantage. And it's so easy for them to draw maps and just eliminate certain minority populations. It's a mess, really. It's just a mess. Let me ask a really dumb question. When the Supreme Court makes a ruling like this, people jump into action right away, right? I mean, this has immediate consequences? Well, yeah. Well, I think what will happen is, yes, states will start looking at this and deciding what to do. Louisiana certainly is going to jump into action. Yeah, because what they're going to do is, you know, the politics of it, they're going to start looking at their maps and seeing what they can do and how they can use their power as legislators to redraw the maps.
7:40I mean, I just think this is opening up a can of worms that, you know, the implications are just crazy, I think, as far as what's going to happen next. Because, you know, we see that what's happening. Florida is trying to redraw its maps without even this decision. So, you know, we've come to the point where are we going to have Democratic states with all Democratic districts and Republican states with all Republican districts? It's just it's sort of mind boggling. I'm still stunned by this. Does this change any of what California voters just decided or what Virginia voters decided? No, I don't.
8:17I don't think this has anything to do with that because that was a separate. I think that California, didn't the California, Texas passed the Supreme Court. I think California may have passed the Supreme Court as well. They're saying that wasn't based on race. That was based on politics. And it's okay to gerrymander based on politics. So think about that. Think of it. It's okay to gerrymander based on politics. So, you know, Republicans and Democrats are fine. They're allowed to go in and gerrymander based on politics. Before this decision, it was just, you couldn't gerrymander based on race. And now you can gerrymander basically based on race, no matter what the Supreme Court said in its majority opinion.
8:54What's left for the Supreme Court this session here? I mean, this was a big one. Yeah, the big case, the case that we're waiting for at Bloomberg is the case of the attempted firing by President Trump of Lisa Cook, the Fed Reserve governor. And the thing is that every week that it's opinion day, we expect that case to come out because it was argued so long ago and because it seemed like the justices were on board with not allowing her to be fired. But it's taking so long that you start to wonder what's happening. Is it because they're writing a lot of concurrences and dissents? You know, why is it because they're having a hard time distinguishing as they want to the Fed chair from other other board members that he's fired?
9:42So is that what's taking them long? Are they just holding it? That's what I think. I think they're just good programmers, and they're holding their juiciest one for the year. They say they don't, but I really don't believe that, because it's no coincidence that all these controversial cases come down the last day of the term. When is the last day of the term? Well, it's a movable date. Ah, okay. It used to be the very end of June, and then they would go on vacation, but it's now we've had a couple of times where it went into July Why? Because they couldn't get their stuff finished and they had so many late breaking opinions.
10:20There used to be I mean, there's a story about a justice that used to have his car waiting outside the court the last day. So they could drive him to his vacation spot. Then they all disappear and go to different, you know, different locations for the summer. I want to bring in Michael McKee, covers all the economics and international aspects of our reporting for Bloomberg. Boy, we just had a Supreme Court ruling, which has obviously political ramifications for this country, maybe economics as well. What's your initial take of the Supreme Court ruling here? Well, the ruling sets the stage for states to redraw congressional districts.
10:56But the question is, do they have time to do that? In some states where they have a number of black majority districts, it's already too late because filing deadlines for primaries have already passed. The issue is how many states could still do it. One expects that Louisiana would try. But the secondary question is then how far do they get with this? Because if you draw the districts, you know somebody is going to complain to the courts about it. It goes back into the court system to question whether the new maps are discriminatory in one way or another. It does have a long-term foundational impact, however, in that it dilutes minority voting power in the sense that you can't create a district that is basically guaranteed to elect a minority.
11:43And that would be a question of disenfranchisement for a lot of people. And the kind of deal that many states made that they would never admit is that we'll give you your own minority district and then we will be able to use the rest of the state for our own white majority districts and most states Republican districts. So at this point, there could be a shift in the balance of power in some states once they can get around to actually changing their congressional districts. Boy, this gets messy really quickly. that's that's the net effect of this kind of decision was this a surprise the way that supreme court ruled no it's not at all uh in fact uh legal and political analysts had been expecting this for quite some time the court has uh not liked the voting rights act for many years chief justice roberts has said that uh while it was useful at one time it cannot be permanent law because many Many of the states and many of the aspects of the Voting Rights Act have been, you'd say, cured, taken care of.
12:49People can vote. Poll taxes are gone. That sort of thing. So they've been gutting it one section at a time. This is section two, and now it is gone. So the Voting Rights Act itself is not worth much anymore. But that was expected, and that's why you have a lot of lawyers, especially on the Democratic side waiting to pounce on any new districts redrawn to see if they can make the case that they discriminate in one way or another and aren't fair.
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From the publisher
The US Supreme Court limited the use of the Voting Rights Act to create predominantly Black or Hispanic election districts in a major constitutional ruling that buttresses Republican efforts to keep control of the House in this year’s midterms and beyond.
Voting 6-3 along ideological lines, the justices rejected a Louisiana congressional map that was drawn with a second majority-Black district after a lower court found an earlier map to be discriminatory.
The Supreme Court ruling undercuts what had been the most significant remaining part of the Voting Rights Act, a law passed in 1965 to address rampant discrimination against Black voters. The justices had already significantly weakened the law twice since 2013.
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