Kevin Durant On LeBron's 76ers Move, the Knicks Ring, Westbrook Retiring, & His NBA Future

22:51So why not? How do you come up with the lines? Are they just on the fly? Come on, bro. I'm a vet. Right there. I listen to a lot of rap too. So you really know how to pop your shit? Especially in that setting. I've been doing it my whole life. Since I was 10, I've been talking shit like this. No bullshit. I'm better than you in life. Not cursing, but just really popping. That's what we do. That's how we play basketball where we're from. People knowing that you're going to respond to them is a big reason why they're going to continue to tweet at you and say shit to you. But you're welcoming of that.

23:25I feel great that I can provide them one of the core memories of their life.

23:33That simple. Like one day they can tell their grandkids like yo. They will. Can't be disrespectful. I had an interaction with this dude. I talked to this dude. And he told me his life is better than mine. They feel like a part of my family when I go at them like a real person. I want to talk about your time in Golden State pregame. Y 'all would get lit in the tunnel and shit like that. And it was like one specific move used to hit in the center of this circle. What is that? What was the origin of that? It's really just get me loose. And then they seen me doing that one time and then they just circled around me and just gassed me up every time.

24:07It just took a life of its own. I really, I seen one of my veteran teammates just like moving around like that before a game. I'm like, that shit look like it get me going. So I tried and it got me loose a little bit before I ran out. And then they ain't never seen me do it before. My teammates at OKC was just like, all right, they were like, hurry up, let's get ready to go out. They circled around me and was gassing me. So yeah, it took a life of its own. Do you still do that to this day or not? Nah. I do a little, I just switch it up. What do you be doing now? Just like regular legs, swing. It's like more basic activations.

24:41That's not as sexy. Do you feel like sexy was the accomplishment? It was not. I never try to be sexy. But like unintentionally it was sexy. I mean, I don't know. Some people might say it was sexy. Some say it was lame. I didn't see people say it was lame, but I did see jokes about it. And like the audio, they would like mute the audio on certain parts of it and shit. Yeah. It was funny. I mean, yeah, it was. It was. It was. R.I.P. to that routine. Maybe bring it back? Nah. It's something better. I upgrade it. To just leg swings on the wall? Just something that would activate me even better. To get ready to play.

25:17That's what I'm focused on when I'm out there, not being sexy. I'm wondering where you feel you rank in terms of two-letter people. Tops. Hold on. So obviously it's KD, right? We got AI, we got MJ, and we got JC. See, they don't go by those. People call AI, AI. People call MJ, MJ. They don't call him, not like that though. He got so many names that MJ is on the lowest level. So you put him there at the bottom. KD is first when it comes to me. I think so is AI though. No one calls him Allen. No one calls him Allen. You're right. That's AI. That's AI. So AI is - But AI is getting competed by, is in hard, heavy competition with AI.

26:06You're saying AI is in competition with AI? Yes. I don't have a competitor. Also with KD? Yeah. That's true. But AI is stiff competition for KD, I think. Rob Markman But still, that's what I'm saying. Mine is just like stand alone. You see what I'm saying? Like MJ, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan. Rob Markman You're right. Okay, MJ is, you're right. There's two MJs. I was thinking of that. Rob Markman AI, AI. Rob Markman Right. But there's only one JC. Rob Markman We don't call him that though. Rob Markman Some people do. Rob Markman That's like you at church every day, Bible school, Wednesdays, Saturdays, Sunday church.

26:42Like really, really into the, when you call him JC. Rob Markman - Right. When you that acquainted. We just call him Jesus. One name is better than JC. Rob Markman - Also JC, Jordan Clarkson. Some people call him JC. Come on. Rob Markman - Are there any other active two letter people that you can think of? KG. Rob Markman - KG is a good one too. KG would be up there. Rob Markman - Okay. Do you edge him out? I edge him out, but just because I'm just better. Rob Markman - Okay. It's me and Cash Doll, that's it. Wait, yeah you do have competition with Cash Doll. But that's not competition. She knows that.

27:20Somebody referenced KD. She referenced that in her new song and I was pissed. That's what it was. It was a couple years ago, right? No, recently. It was a couple years ago and then recently she dropped a song that was like KD when she was on the intro of the video. I was sitting there like, you just throwing people off, nobody associates you with that. That hit NBA Twitter because people were like, Cash Dog, nobody calls you KD. Nobody calls you Cash Dog. And that's a hard ass name. Cash Dog's a great name. But if she just spelled the regular like how you usually spell Cash, we wouldn't have had this trouble.

27:55But she wants to throw the K on there. Mess you all up. That's what I'm saying. So now when somebody says KD, do they mean Cash Dog? We don't know. Hell no. They don't. Out of 100 % of the time, maybe 90... I'll give her that 0.1 or the 99.9. 99.5 are thinking you, and then 0.05 are thinking... I don't think it's that many. No, not even that many. Maybe that 1.1 is like her block in Detroit. Where's she from? I don't know what side of Detroit. I don't want to disrespect her. Somewhere in Detroit. That's probably the only block that call her KD. KD, KG's a good one. I didn't think about the AI with AI.

28:36Don't get into three letter people. There's some solid. Who? MPJ. That's not. MBJ, Michael B. Jordan. LBJ. LBJ is goaded. OBJ. No, I'm talking about the president. Who? LBJ. Lyndon B. Johnson? Yeah, that was the first LBJ. How about JFK? JFK. That's the best. JFK. That's the hardest one because the airport, it's just ingrained in my mind for so long that like JFK. This is such a substantive conversation that we're having. It is. Two-letter and three-letter. It's the shit you think about, actually. I've never really thought about it until I was prepping for this and I was like, KD. People don't even call him Kev, they just call him KD.

29:19I thought about it with AI. I just kept seeing AI and I always just think it was Al Nyrson. So did I. So did I. But now it's bad because I only think about artificial intelligence. I know. Don't really think about Alonair. See, that's what I'm saying. And that's my point. Rob Markman Yeah, the tides have turned a bit. That's my point. Rob Markman That's like cash though, she's on the rise. It might be cash though with Kevin. I don't think that gap will close. Rob Markman Maybe not. One perspective of yours that I found intriguing was your perspective on love. You were sitting down on a podcast and it was like Speed and Logan, Paul and Mike and He was like, yeah, in my years of dating, I've come to this realization that a woman could be your girlfriend, but she's not yours, even if she's your girlfriend.

30:02That's not love. That's dating. Love and dating is two different things. In dating, you just do whatever you want. Like, all that was good. You know what I mean? I'm not committed to you. You're not committed to me. You might go on a date tomorrow. Love is a totally different thing. And I'm not in love with this girl. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't, she knows that and you know, so that's dating and love is a different thing to me. So if you're not in love, I've seen you say like you prefer them to check out at maybe like 12 in the afternoon or 11 a.m. or something like that. When you do love them, what time are they allowed to like stay until?

30:41Listen, there's no time. There's no, I don't have a concept of time at that point. Mmm, that's deep. Tell me more. Just whenever you want to. Before, I would tell you, all right, now it's time. Rob Markman Do you say it like that? Rob Markman Yeah. And then now when I just don't care about the time, it's just like whenever you want to leave, it's on you. That's the difference. Rob Markman That's love. Is it ever sus when you be like, all right, it's about that time? Is it awkward? Rob Markman No, because you usually spent enough time. Rob Markman You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman You got shit to do.

31:15Rob Markman But what if they're not catching the message? What if they're not feeling like they've spent enough time? They're just like, oh, I'm comfortable, I'm chilling. And you're like... It's none of that. There's no like, no, I'm saying... No, not that they say it to you, but their actions are showing like... Oh, it should be all right. It should be all right over after... once you get home and get to the shower and get into her routine, she'll be fine. We'll kick it again some other time. She'll get over it. I like that. Is it just like a, all right now? All right now, it's about time. Usually because I'll be having to go to the gym or something or move around.

31:52See that's good because you have an alibi. Like, hey I gotta go to the gym, I gotta go to this. I wouldn't even call that an alibi. I'm not using that. But it's just like, all right, even if I don't, gotta go to the gym that day. Just like, all right now, it's about time now. You done had a breakfast, shit. But if you're cool, then if it's not just dating, then we really fuck with each other. Then there's no cause at the time. As long as you got, you know what I mean, your bags, you got stuff to put on. The next few days, weeks, then yeah, we good. I love that. You're going to give a lot of women something to strive for there.

32:33No, I'm not, brother. They're going to be inspired. I know I made it when he tells me. I'm not one of those guys they get inspired by. You don't think? No. I don't know if I agree with that. I've seen women around you. I think they are inspired. We've seen women do what around them. Just actions that show that they're inspired. I haven't seen it either. I haven't seen it. I don't know what you're talking about. You're in it. And I'm observing. Like you said, you're watching everything. No, I be seeing Shorty fighting to make their way around. I've seen them make their way to you. No, no, no. Speeding your mind.

33:07No, they're coming right past me. Excuse me, Speedy, move out the way. I'm seeing you in action, Speedy. I'm seeing you Speedy with it too. The phone, it's like that. Nah, not me. Speedy with that phone. I actually lost my phone a few months ago. I haven't had one in a minute. Okay. It's been a straight conversation. Yeah? That's it. That's fire. At the Chris Brown concerts. What do you do for fun these days? Are you playing video games? What do you do off the court that's fun for you? Whatever comes to mind, bro, I don't do too much. I don't have a main hobby that I'm into right now. Are you a big hobby type person?

33:43Like to pick up new things and try to learn it? Yeah. I don't go looking for new shit. If something falls on my lap that is fun to do, like I played Padale with Drake at the Noctoman. I heard you're trash. I'm trash? Who said that? A very close source that you told me you was a ass. Damn, that's crazy. They're going to just critique my game after the first swing of the paddle. That's sick. But yeah, I mean, athletes get held to a different standard. So yeah, you can call me trash, I don't mind. And I don't mind going back and working on my game either. So if it's a paddle, if I'm saying this right, court, I'm going to try to get out there.

34:22How about pickleball? Heard you was also trash at that. It's crazy that I'm just getting raided off of one time of me playing. By people close to you too. That's right. Which is insane. It's probably Rich. It slips my mind. Who said it? Because I call Rich trash at basketball every day, at least. When you play video games, do you find that you play with a lot of the same people online that you don't actually know in real life? Do you have friends that you made on the game? Yes. Do they know that you are who you are? Yes. They hung out with me in my house. They've been friends with me for down there 10 years now.

34:57Oh, you met them on the game. On the game and they like one of my best friends I met on the game. For real? Yes. And it's like I trust this dude with anything. Like seriously, we hung out plenty of times so I'm like let me see what this dude really about. Like you just peeping him? Peeping him the whole time. There's a group of us. I'm just like, because I'm sitting out talking to this dude every day on the game. I find myself talking to this dude every day for months. I'm like let me, I got to chill with y 'all. Like there's like five of them. And I chill with them just like oh these some solid dudes and they just became friends.

35:28And they actually your mans to this day. My mans, I can call right now, you're going to pick the phone. That's hard. And they just live regular lives. Like just go to work, come home. We got nine to fives. And then come game to jail. And I'm like, how y 'all got so much time to play the game with me? My job is from 9 to 11 in the summer. I go to work and I don't have to do that. I just go do that because I love to do it. And I'm like, how y 'all got so much time to play the game? And just like, man, this is my safe haven for real. This is what I do to decompress. Yeah. It's 10 of us in a party, we competitively playing the game, we communicate and trying to win.

36:01It's like, when you think about it, it's good for the soul after a long day at work, when you come home with your homies and just buy without having to go out and have a drink or make a big production out of it. So I definitely made some friends. Then I got 14-year-old little homies that I've been kicking them with. They'll come to an EYBL game and I kick it with the homies and I meet them there. Like, it's a real community on there. For real. That's wild. It is. You ever have people that you play against that you know don't know who you are? Every year. They maybe catch on or? Most of the dudes that I play with, I got a hundred, at least I can call up 50 people right now and be like, yo, we playing the game, that I played the game with consistently over the last six years.

36:48And 95 % of them met me like that. hop in a party like, oh we playing, hop on this team with me. But when me and my homie that I know start talking, and they be like, hold on, what the fuck? And then we start just talking like it's just me and him in there, and they be like, hold on, you do what? You play who? You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, I'm gone next week, we got two games on the road, dudes be like, what you do? And they be like, nah, they put that piece together. I'm like, you see, that's, and that'd be the dope part about it too, because most of these dudes, they just on there just randomly.

37:23They running to me on that joint. They on the game every day now. Rob Markman Now they just running into you. Rob Markman Now it's fun for them now. Rob Markman That's dope though. I like that. I know you told me that you also fuck with streaming. You like to watch streamers now. Rob Markman I do. Rob Markman You was fucking with Dean and AB? Rob Markman I was. I was heavily. Rob Markman Off it now. Rob Markman I'm not off it, but there was a point where I was getting up in the morning and watching them all day. I really enjoyed that dynamic between them two, because AB is a real legend in the game.

37:58Facts. And to see, obviously he fell from grace a little bit, but you can still see he loved boxing and that shit. And they fuck around and do their thing and crash out and go out, which is fun to watch too. But then sometimes you see the little tidbits of him in the ring working out, and that's the fun part about seeing them too. And then I like seeing it, you know what I mean? When they go out having a good time, they funny. You know what I'm saying? It's so funny to watch. I find myself saying, and will, just because I heard them say it. Don't. I be finding myself just picking up on the lingo because they've been so...

38:32they've been at it since the start of summer. And the matching outfits make you so much funnier. It's hilarious everywhere they go. It's consistent. That shit is hilarious. And it got me watching other streamers too. Who else are you tapping into? G, Blueface, he probably the best one right now. He's violent. He's violent. Speed. I mean, I just try to tap in on as much as I can. It's reality TV. It's just as raw as you can get on content. With no censorship for the most part. I like your perspective on music because just about every day I see you post some shit or talk about some music from an artist I've never heard of in my life.

39:11Where are you finding these people? And why is your ear for music so keen? Where does that stem from? Spotify Radio really turned me on to a lot of artists, and then I just go from there.

39:27Music is a way of life. It's a lifestyle. We do everything to music, so I'm just trying to find the newest rap, the youngest, the newest star, who's going to be the next one up. We're in a generation now of the dudes that we grew up on getting older. You know what I'm saying? I want to know who's the next up, who's going to be here for the next 15 years like they were. You know what I'm saying? So I'm always looking for that. It's like new sound. Rob Markman Constantly though, I'd be like, oh, he's making this artist up now at this point. You said some guy... I was watching the interview and you said some guy.

39:59I went and looked it up and he had like 48 monthly listeners. I'm like, there's no way KD is one of these 48 people, bro. Blame Spotify, man. They put it on the table when I listen to it. I like a lot of underground rap. A lot of these dudes make so many songs and so much music because they don't have no contracts. They just dropping shit. And they just rap too. There's not too much around it. They just put out their music and keep it moving. So I listen to a lot of that stuff and I find myself listening to artists that got 48 monthly listeners, but they still make good shit. Rob Markman You've been name dropped in so many different lyrics over the years.

40:40On Drake's latest album, on Q &A, he mentions you. He said, me and KD got more cheese than... and then he cuts out. Do you know what he... y 'all got more cheese than what? I didn't ask. No. Rob Markman It's a bar with your name in it. You're not going to ask what the fuck you meant by that. No. No. I don't know why. I don't know why, I just don't care that much. You just agree to him? I'm just grateful to be mentioned by the GOAT. Multiple times though. It's not just like - Every time is just like the first. How do you be finding out? Does he hit you like, yo, I just name dropped you or he'll send you the record or you just hear it when it come out?

41:20A couple of times he did that actually. When he did, when he talked about my Achilles. Okay. I think that's the only time he texted me. It was like, oh, is this cool if I say this? And I'm like, hell yeah. What you gonna say, no? Yeah, I don't think it's a diss or anything, but yeah, that's probably the only time. But outside of that, just every time it's a surprise. You know what I'm saying? You listen to some stuff and like, I have been chilling with Drake though. He might just throw me in a bar. Let me really lock in real quick. And most of the time he throw me in one. And that shit hit every time.

41:59Rob Markman, Yeah. I'm still waiting for my first mention. Not from Drake, but just in general. Rob Markman, You haven't been mentioned in a song? Rob Markman, Never bro. Rob Markman, You have a name that should be mentioned. Rob Markman, You would think at this point, and I done interviewed every rapper living like, you would think I would have gotten one by now, but no. Rob Markman, What the fuck are you doing? Rob Markman, There's a bar that's out there that hasn't been said. Rob Markman, Somebody need to get on that. Rob Markman, Somebody need to get on that. Rob Markman, One of these 48 listener artists.

42:23Rob Markman, Exactly. Rob Markman, Or maybe next time you're in the studio, you know, you tell me. Rob Markman, No. Why? You're not getting in the studio no more? It's just too close. Of course I would say Speedy in a bar. I mean, Drake do it to you and that's your man. That's true. Yeah, I'm not too close. Why? I can't get a little... True that. Let me think about it. Is it true that one time you walked off the court at UCLA when you was hooping with Drake? And then you told him, like, yo, don't ever invite me to come hoop with you ever again? Nah, so I think I invited them. I think, yeah, they did invite me that night.

42:58And I was just coming up there just to shoot and just like fuck around and shoot and shit. And they was like, yo, I should play two on two. And I'm like, handle life. You know handle life? Dribble too much? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Dribble too much. I had Drake up there one day at UCLA. He was like, yo, pull up. I was like, Drake and I'm up there? Bam, I'm coming up there. So I pulled up and we just ended up playing two on two. And there was another NBA player in there. I was just knocking down every shot. Who was your teammate? It was one of my homeboys. It was one of my... You and your mans versus?

43:32Versus dribbled too much. And he was working on an NBA guy at the time. Okay, okay. And he's like my size, like 6 '9", but he wasn't like a wing player. So I was just like shooting at threes, just fading away, just hitting tough shots. And I was just, you know, I was trolling. At that time, me and Drake had a little, every time he would come to my game, he would troll me on the sideline. You know how you do at a game. So I would always just say shit back to him. It wasn't nothing too crazy. So Drake himself wasn't playing? No. It was just like his men's was there. He was playing. No, actually it was a three on three.

44:08He was playing, but it wasn't like he was... I don't think he was on the opposite team, but he wasn't right. It was basically one on one with me and the NBA playing. Got it. Y 'all had four over there doing y 'all thing, and it was just like me and him just going at it. And you was killing the guy. I mean, he got his shit off too, but I made the last shot. And then you walked off. I was like, man, get the fuck off the court. You know what I'm talking about, shit. It wasn't that serious, though. And you said, don't ever invite me to come to the hotel again. And I came back. I've been back playing basketball with them plenty of times after that.

44:39What do you think is the best team, like, on paper that you've ever been a part of? Just looking at straight roster, nothing else. I would say Brooklyn. Okay, Kyrie, James. Drake Griffin. Blake was on the team. Marcus Aldridge, Paul Millsap, Patty Mills. Yeah. Like we had the names on that team. I'm just looking at straight paper. I know people are going to say, the Warriors, you had Steph and Klay. But I'm like, when you look at that team though, like at the time, Steph was an MVP, but Klay and Draymond didn't get the accolades at that time. Yeah. They were just on the way to, they were like one-time All-Star.

45:19These dudes were, these dudes I'm talking about, already completed their careers damn near and got all of the accolades and on top of me, James and Kyrie. You know what I'm saying? So when you just look at, when you're just putting accolades on the table, I would say that team. But obviously the best team I played on was the Warriors. I want to say, I want to say 2018 team. Okay. What team was that? The 2019 team, it's hard to say. It was 2018 was the second championship. But the 2019 team was crazy, but we got hurt. Yeah. With Cousins at the five. That's probably the best team. Demarcus Cousins, yeah.

45:55That's probably the best team that I've been a part of. Really? More than that. Because I forgot about Cousins. I didn't play with Cousins a lot that year. Because he had got hurt in the playoffs and missed down in the whole play. And then I got hurt in the playoffs, and then he missed most of the season. So I only played a few games with Cousins. So I always forget that he was on that team. But when you look at it on paper, it's probably a year. And that Brooklyn team was a close second. Yeah, that shit was crazy. Yeah, I really wanted y 'all to win that shit. In Brooklyn? Yeah. Yeah, that shit would have - That's the biggest one for me, because Brooklyn would have been so dope just seeing that in Brooklyn.

46:35They'd been hanging on that so crazy in New York. It would have been - It would have been so crazy. Ah, man. When you think about what could have been, what comes to mind for you? Just riding down Atlantic, for real. The parade, parade, parade. That's what I think about that team. What it'd been like at the parade. I swear, every time I think about that team, I'm just like, in all black, all our fans have been in all black. That's the only thing I'm thinking about. But that team had the chance. And that's the... And you know, we realized injuries is the reason. because we played bad or we underachieved on the court.

47:14And I think that's what makes it, takes the sting out of it just a little bit. There was just injuries. When you wake up in the morning, you see the money, you go and get it. Who said that, Wayne? W's on my fitted and purple and cream soda. And purple and cream soda is all the niggas sipping. Yeah, that was like grape cream soda mix. Yeah, that was me. I remember that. I was in the basement in my uncle's studio. Me and Dave East rapping. East was in that video? Yeah. That was a verse I found. I was digging through the craps. I just seen that on TikTok. It just popped back up. Recently? Yeah, a couple weeks ago.

47:54It took me mad long to find that clip, but I found it. That's crazy. You're going to see that bar is the one that you say. I mean, the whole verse was only like 40 seconds long. Yeah. I wake up in the morning. I see the money. I go and get it. W's on my fitted, purple cream soda is all the niggas sipping. That's how I was feeling. I was listening to a lot of Wayne at the time. And Wayne was drinking soda with purple in it. So I was like, all right, this sound cool. When I heard the verse, I did hear a lot of potential though. The flow was there. I have potential if I work on my game, but I don't.

48:26So I've stagnated. Why don't you care to craft that? Because I've gotten better. The style is too. But at a slow pace. I was at a slow pace. I could be better if I worked on my game and really locked in, but I choose to do other things. The style of shit was a good flow too though. Yeah. I feel like I can be better. I feel like - Will those days ever come you think? Of you actually getting in the lab and working on that? No. Like an album, like a really - No, just like working, not to put out a project, but just like working on - Oh yeah, I work on music now. I'm just figuring YouTube, tutorials, and then let me figure it out on my beat machine.

49:08You know what I mean? Shit like that. Is it true that you and LeBron have a song together? We had like three songs, I think. For real? Are y 'all recording them in person or y 'all sending the files? No. So I went to Akron in 2011 to work out with him for like four or five days and then he had a studio. Because Rich Paul, me and Rich Paul really was the ones that got it going and convinced I convinced Braun to rap. Me and Rich Paul, because Rich Paul was trying to recruit me when he first started. Actually I liked Rich, so we hung out a lot. In every city we was going to, we was going to a studio.

49:43Me and Rich. Laying verses down? Me and Coach K, QC, every studio. We was in Philly in the studio. He would just meet me on the road and we would just hop in the studio because he knew I liked to rap. And Rich loved to rap. So we was just rapping and I think we convinced Braun to rap that one day. And he got in there. Keeley the Buck though, his shit was whack or nah? It was just like, anytime somebody do something for it, the first few times, it's a little forced. Once you get that flow, he'd have figured out he loved rapping. Where are these records at? I don't know. That's a good question. They in that studio in Akron, somebody out there, engineer, somebody got them.

50:22Is the studio still around? I don't know. I don't know. If it is, that's some real bread. Somebody could get selling that record. I think somebody, that's the one who dropped them. The engineer dropped it. Oh, he did drop it? He dropped one of them and that's how people even heard about it. But he changed the beat to it. Because I guess the dude who did the beat was like, nah, I need some... Is them two on there? Nah. Brown on there? Nah. He's like, yeah, I'm not clearing that at all. No, I'm not. So they changed the beat and it just made the song even more wack. If I think about it though, that might be the highest net worth song ever recorded.

50:57You and Braun on the record? I disagree. Who? Michael Jackson and whoever he could have. He doesn't really have features like that. Mike Jack was like a solo guy. And Janet Jackson. Okay, that is true. Also Hov and like - Yeah, Hov and B got it too, actually. You're right. I take that back then. But just in terms of illness, a KD and Braun song. Stump casting, bro. It's cool. I think that's cool. I haven't heard it yet, but the idea of y 'all on a song together is kind of... Yeah, the idea of it is on paper. Yeah, on paper. In actuality, it's probably not great, but on paper, that's your priority.

51:42I think it's impressive to me that you kind of ashed your way into a brand deal. What do you mean? Like you were so ashy that you asked your way into a deal with CeraVe. That's crazy how that worked out, right? Yeah. Yeah, it just was on brand for both of us. And it worked out. It was perfect. Do you think that it was a... I think that the idea of that brand deal is actually genius. Is it a brand deal that you look at and be like, okay, this actually made sense for me? Everything made sense, yeah. Yeah, it did. I don't see you do many brand deals outside of Nike and shit. I don't. And I think that was the perfect one because of how rival my ashy legs were going online for a few years.

52:30And then how funny the commercial became. It just made perfect sense, one of those ones. I'm assuming now you've started using lotion and moisturizing. I don't use lotion when I play on my legs. I don't like lotion my whole body before I go play. Because my hands be getting too slippery sometimes and the ball be slipping out and I start sweating. Yeah, sweat and lotion together. And I just start shooting the ball and it slip out. I'm like, what is this? And then I'm like, oh, I lotion too much before the game and it'd be too oily. And I was like, you know what? Let me stop. And then they happened to catch me with my tights up, like barely up, like right there.

53:06It was less than that, bro. It was like that much. I'm like, whoever took this picture is a bitch. Bro, it looked like - Because he knew what he was doing. He was like, dang, he's so ashy. Let me show the world how ashy is he is right now. Yo, I ain't gonna lie to her, it looked like snake skin, bro. That was wild. Bro, it did, because he zoomed in 17 times. He zoomed in so crazy that you could just see the white scales. It looked like a mountain. Like, that shit looked crazy. You got eczema? No, not even close. Like, look out. Like, my shit don't look bad right now. Oh, no, you study right now.

53:38You know what I'm saying? It's a little bit, but it ain't as much. It was cold in Cleveland too. I had to just get out of the shower. You just got out of the shower and some cold. You know what I'm saying? You just go straight white on them. No, but that picture is absurd. That's why one of the ashiest documentations of human is this. Well, you know what? I'm going to make sure y 'all see more of it this year. I'm going to come out there with no tights on and just straight legs. Double up. Fuck it. Why not? It sucks. And you're going to see it. It should be white. Rob Markman You said on Fred VanVleet's podcast, he was like, yeah, I like to really feel connected to the trenches.

54:14You know, sometimes I go a couple days musty, no showering when I'm just in the crib. We're in the crib right now. Have you - Rob Markman I left the crib today though, before you got here. Rob Markman Okay, okay. Rob Markman You know what I'm saying? That's what my thing was, if I don't leave the crib. Rob Markman Got it. Rob Markman So I left. Rob Markman Because the posture I'm seeing right now, I feel like if you were musty, I probably would have smelled it by now. But luckily. Rob Markman Even if I am musty, You ain't gonna smell it. You're not gonna smell it. I know I'm a stupid. You see what I'm saying?

54:41That's how much I wash myself. Wait, I'm confused. Because you said you go a couple days without washing. But the eight days before that though. So I can go two days if I just go 16 straight days and just get fresh. So two days not gonna interrupt. So out of 365 days, how many of those 365 days are you getting in the shower you think? At least 350. Okay, that's only 15 days a year that you're not showering. That's actually better than I anticipated. You see what I'm saying? And so those 15 days are not going to change my body odor drastically. You see what I mean? Right. It's a balance in it all.

55:23Sometimes you just want to walk around the house and not have to worry about shit like that. Okay. Listen, if you like it, I love it. A couple more things here before we get out of here. I want to talk about just like business endeavors, brand deals, maybe not your thing per se. But one time I interviewed Steph Curry and he was saying that he feels like players should be able to participate in equity of the teams that they're playing on because they're generating billions and billions of dollars. Do you feel the same way? I agree. The Golden State Warriors have been the number one valued team in sports since 2015, the year that Steph Curry just jumped on to being this iconic player.

56:03The majority of that income is based off of people wanting to come see him play. Buy his jerseys, build around the arena, just drive income to that region of the country, the Bay Area. So, yeah, he's worth him as a player. His last name is worth so much to that franchise that, yeah, he should be gifted that almost at this point. You know what I'm saying? And there's been a lot of guys throughout the course of the league who've done that. It might not have been as long as Steph, but it might have been a nice three or four-year period where you had a Tracy McGrady in Orlando. How much money did he provide for you there on Houston?

56:43Yao Ming in Houston. Yeah. How about like a Vince Carter in Toronto? exactly yeah that does make a lot of sense Oklahoma City yeah Dirk in Dallas you know that just brings so much business um not just just to the Mavericks but just to that to that city you know I'm saying so yeah they worth way more for that short period of time because you striking when the iron's hot and you know I got to Houston the ticket prices went up you see what I'm saying so it's just like what is that you've reached an incredible level of financial success uh on Fred Van Vliet's podcast you said something like you know people always be saying you know more money more problems but like I'm good like shit you don't have that them type of issues it's not a problem when you can control you know you can control what's coming I mean people people people want money to be honest people who don't have as much as you they need things people people look at you as a a crutch sometimes I think that's what a lot of people mean when they get money and just more and more hands that's trying to get a piece of what you're doing or trying to be around.

57:51But once you can control that and once you can figure out who you want to help. A lot of us want to help people. We want to put, we know that we're a breadwinner in our family, so we want to make sure everybody's going well. But sometimes it can be a lot too. So once you figure out that balance, I think it's not too bad. You know what I'm saying? But sometimes you can get in over your head. I was plenty of times. But I think going through that trial and error is always good. How are you in and over your head? Just not knowing when to say no. Learning how not to enable people. You know what I'm saying?

58:25Of course you want to help, but at the same time, you don't want to just always give, give, give. You want to make sure people... You got... This money ain't going to last. You got to try to make this last for as long as I can. I can't play basketball. I've earned this much money for the rest of my life every year. So when you think about it that way, a lot of stuff you got to start to budget and make sure that this shit can last. So you got to say no. And I think that's one of the hardest things to do when you get in this position, especially coming from not having this stuff out of nowhere, boom.

59:01Everybody's life's going to change after that. So you got to figure out what it's like living with money. It's that simple. You've had over 500, almost 600 million dollars earned on court. When you think about that figure, do you feel bad that you stole that dollar at that pizza shop at the tip jar? No. Because at that time, I didn't know I was going to get none of this. So if I'd have known, yeah, I probably wouldn't have stole that dollar. I probably would have had my own money at that time. Where were you at? Where was this pizza shop? I was in Florida. Polk County, Florida. Lakeland. Lakeland.

59:35Okay. And we were at a... We had just drove down from Maryland, which is like 16 hours. As soon as we got off the 16 passenger van, we seen a pizza shop and it was just one dude in there. And he went to the back and I'm like... Everybody took a dollar. I'm the only one that got caught. How did they catch you? He was like, yeah, I seen that camera. I just looked at the camera in the back and I seen you grab that dollar. I was just like, damn. Did he ask for a back? I just had to at that point. He was just like, what do I do? Leave out with the dollar? But I just had to be like, I just felt so embarrassed while everybody else got away with it.

1:00:10And they all kept their dollar. Yes. And he didn't even care to count. He just looked at me and was just like, I see you. I was like, I don't have a life of crime. This is not, I can't, I'm not good at this. Do you feel like that's a testament to like your life in a way? Like you've never been able to like get away with shit or like finesse? Yes. That is, yes. I tried to finesse a lot of shit that I couldn't get it... or I wanted to finesse shit like my friends would finesse. When I wanted to cheat on the test, the way they was cheating, they would get away with it and I'd get in trouble. My mom would always find...

1:00:47I would always do some shit wrong in the house and I thought I was doing it right. You know what I'm saying? But I was really trying to cut corners and I didn't do it right. My brother know how to cut the corners better than me, but I get my ass whooped. You know what I'm saying? So I was just like, damn, I'm not good enough at this shit. So let me focus on what I'm good at. And I was getting up and going to the gym and shooting basketballs and working out and being disciplined in that. And then I just started learning how to do other shit. Rob Markman It all worked out. Rob Markman It all worked out.

1:01:16I figured it out. Rob Markman But finesse, not in the DNA for you. Rob Markman I learned how to finesse in a different way. Rob Markman You're right. Rob Markman You're right. My last thing for you, man. What's next? Like, what are you hoping is the next, like, chapter of KD? Just to make more money. Okay. Doing what? I don't know, man. I want to do a lot of stuff. Every day I think about new stuff that I want to do. One of my main goals is to be the GM of the Team USA. Like, figure it. One of these Olympics, one of these years. That's what Grand Hill did it? Yeah. I want to do that job one time.

1:01:54I might want to make content. I want to work guys out one time. I don't know. I just feel like I'm building a lot of great relationships. I'm doing a lot of cool shit every day. There's something to fall in my lap, but I just keep building with people and just keep the main thing the main thing. There's so much that can photo off the game of basketball, bro. Like if I stick to what I do, I've been in contact with so many different people from just showing how much I love the game and how much I love to do what I do. So who knows, man? I think that's the beauty of it too. Just not being too locked down on one thing right now.

1:02:31In that quest of getting more money, you feel like you have a goal number in mind? Nah, man. I feel like I'm cool, man. I just want to be able to help more people. That's simple. You touched the B yet? So that's personal, bro. I mean, it's simple math, brother. No. You talk about money a lot. Talk about money a lot. What do you mean? You talk about money a lot. A lot? I watched every Kevin Durant interview before this. You talk about money a lot. What context? Contract shit, business endeavors, how this amount of money turned into this. It asked me about money. And you talk about it. What? Alright, man.

1:03:15You making it seem like I just be like, yo, I got a bag on me. Like, look at my wife. Nah, you don't be like popping your shit. You're making it seem like I be popular. No, no, no. You'll be popular shit, but you talk about money. You just asked me if I got a B. So what am I supposed to say to that? If you got a B, you say yeah. Then you'll be like, yo, he talk about money a lot. Nah, I wouldn't say that. I just think if you got a B, you got a B. No wrong with that. I wish I had a B. I wish I had a hundred of them. Really? Is that maybe fucking go for a trillion at that point? Whatever a trillion.

1:03:43I think I dream about what I would do with that money. What do you be dreaming? I would just be building stadiums and shit. I would just be building shit. Like for no reason? I don't know, man. That's easy for me to say right now. Elon Musk, have you interviewed Elon Musk? Never. I've been in a room with him, but I never - Would you ask him shit like that? Hell yeah. What do you do with your money? What's your house look like? Because I wonder what kind of technology he got in his house. Yeah, the crib got to be crazy. Even like Zuckerberg, I would wonder that. One of my men's been in his crib.

1:04:14He told me that shit was wild. Like the tech in there? Yeah, he got all type of shit and it's in a remote place, all type of shit. He has almost a hundred billion. He has many, many billions, but not anything close to Elon. No, Elon is like 10 times more than everybody, right? Yeah, more than probably anybody living ever will have. Did you see that new TerraFab that he's building? Nah, what's that? It's like a million square feet in Texas. It's like his own county, country. I mean his own town, but it's like his, that's where you're going to be building all the Teslas and all that shit. He took over a whole town?

1:04:55A whole town. It's a million square feet. It's like, I can't even explain. He bought a town? It's like a rectangle, like this long. You could drive in and out of that shit. It's got his own zip code. It's crazy. You're lying. He bought a zip code? It's like$200 billion or some shit. What? Yeah. In spring some Texas. Is it like open yet? I don't know. I don't know when it's supposed to, but you know, he'll show some shit off and won't open until like 2039. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. If I had that type of bread, I would be like - Just doing shit like that.

1:05:28Irrational. Just like with it. Because you cannot spend that - You would be tricking insanely. I'm not a trick at all. If you had that much money - No, sir. You wouldn't be putting them up everywhere? No. You're lying. Sir. Trillions? Let's wrap this out before we go. See, you don't want to get it. Let's wrap this out. I need to, that's the next one. I need to interview Speedy next. I don't, I don't be answering questions, brother. Yes, you do. Never. Never. All right. KD, man, I appreciate you. Yo, hold up. One more question. Would you do a 20V1 on Balloon Poppin'? Like, I would host it. No, would you actually?

1:06:01How about that? Your man Drake just did one. He did the 20V1. Right. What if I host and he had the kid from NELK host it for him? What if I hosted one for you? 20V1? Yeah, that would be ill. I'd rather do the balloon pop and that shit is hilarious. You never seen that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But 20V1 is cool too, but it's going to take too long. We should set this up on boardroom and do a balloon pop and I'll host it and we'll get a bunch of girls. But hold up. What if I hosted it and you... because all the girls want you, bro. No, no, no. And we handpicked the girls. No, no, no, no. That's a better idea.

1:06:33The staff is back there shaking their head at me like, yes. No, no, no. Think about this. Drake just did a 20V1 and it showed that there's an appetite for that in the world. If you did one, crack in the neck. No, if you did one. No, we got to think longevity. That's the longevity of it all, bro. Nobody really gives a fuck. I'm washed. I'm in my 40s. No, no, no. Like, almost retired. You're in Drake's... You fresh in the prime of your life. No nothing. No girl, no kids, no nothing. No, I think if you did a pop the balloon right like a few weeks after Drake just did 20V1, out of here. It would be out here for you if I hosted it.

1:07:11Let's do it. Let's do it. I'll host your pop the balloon. We'll have to negotiate. We'll work. We'll work some more. Yeah, because me hosting would be way better. You hosting it would be funny. You're funnier than me in that setting. Which is why I would like to be hosting it. That's why I want to host it. No, I'm funny as a host. Talk about this, bro. I haven't seen your host back. Yeah, I haven't seen your host back. I appreciate you, buddy. I swear we should do that. No, no, no. You doing a pop the balloon? I'm telling you, out of here, bro.