In short
Bottoms Up with Alan Carr and Lee Peart discusses Welsh wine (Del Vineyard’s “Echleida” rosé, grapes stolen by blackbirds/badgers), Easter (Alan’s complaints about Easter eggs and Lee’s preference for Easter over Christmas), a “Perfect Pairing” segment pairing disco scallops with the Broadcaster house wine “Ooh La La” and a Sauvignon Blanc, and supermarket wine bargains with guest Andy (Affordable Wine Hunter).
Guests and backgrounds
- Rich, chef at The Broadcaster (creates disco scallops; explains ingredients and pairing).
- Andy, “affordable wine hunter” who tracks supermarket discounts, previously did corporate Excel/PowerPoint work, and now focuses on wine bargain hunting and Instagram tips.
Key claims
- “Echleida” is Welsh for thief; the vineyard’s first harvest grapes were stolen, leading to a limited run.
- Disco scallops are pan-seared with brown butter, apple gel/puree, pancetta, and sage; crisp acidity from Sauvignon Blanc cuts through butter.
- For deals: buy mixed sixes (often 25% off) and stack discounts to get higher-priced bottles cheaper; look to nearby regions (e.g., Languedoc for Provence-style rosé; Lirac as a Châteauneuf-du-Pape alternative).
Notable examples
- Chip Alley in Cardiff for late-night chips.
- Welsh gin garnish debate (orange vs pink grapefruit).
- Andy’s “Cot de Rhone” go-to for reds; “Lirac” across the Rhône for cheaper reds.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWelsh Wine and Its Story
0:45 to 4:25
Alan shares a story about a unique Welsh wine and its origin.
“Hello and welcome to Bottoms Up with Alan Carr and Lee Peart.”
Easter and Personal Experiences
4:25 to 6:10
Discussion on personal experiences with Easter and preferences.
“And then they had something that we've never seen before.”
Easter Eggs and Chocolate
6:10 to 9:00
Alan and Lee debate the quality and appeal of Easter eggs.
“Well, I went to Wales for a city break, okay?”
Controversial Opinions on Easter Eggs
14:00 to 16:33
The hosts debate the quality of Easter eggs and their relevance for adults.
“I think they aren't as chocolatey as they used to be.”
The Perfect Pairing: Disco Scallops and Wine
18:13 to 24:49
The hosts discuss wine pairings with disco scallops and sample the cuisine.
“Well, we're about to find out disco scallops.”
Wine Expertise with Andy the Affordable Wine Hunter
24:59 to 28:00
Guest Andy shares tips on finding affordable wine and maximizing deals.
“especially if the wine bottles have got a yellow sticker on.”
Wine Shopping Strategies
28:00 to 29:00
Learn how to buy quality wines at discounted prices.
“So my favorite, people say, you're the affordable wine hunter, you do six pounds wines, but sometimes, but what I'd rather say is, look at a bottle that's normally 10 or 11 pounds, in fact, like this one.”
Supermarket Wine Insights
29:00 to 30:20
Discover the best supermarkets for wine and their offers.
“not to go start from the bottom up and go, I'm going to get this one at six pounds.”
From Corporate to Wine Enthusiast
30:20 to 32:00
Explore the transition from corporate work to pursuing a passion for wine.
“So I do a lot of that, do a lot of nosying about, but I get to go to a lot of the supermarket press tasting.”
Learning About Wine Regions
32:00 to 33:00
Understand lesser-known wine regions and grapes for better choices.
“So what did you, because this is your full-time job now, but what did you do before this?”
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Wine Price Comparisons
33:00 to 35:40
Compare prices of well-known wines with their neighbors for savings.
“And I think you've learned about that because you've done some Romanian wine, you've done some Lebanese wines.”
Identifying Good Wine Hacks
35:40 to 37:20
Find out how to identify quality wines even at lower prices.
“Now, quite often you have to look on the back rather than look on the front.”
Rhone Wines Explained
37:20 to 39:40
Learn about Rhone wines and their characteristics.
“Well, I think there's one hat for red is you can't go wrong with Cot de Ron.”
Wine Recommendations for Parties
42:00 to 44:12
Learn which wines are crowd-pleasers for parties and how to choose them.
“So it's really hard to say which one's which.”
Understanding Wine Discounts
44:12 to 46:48
Discover how supermarkets price wines and the psychology behind discounts.
“But, you know, why are, oh, God, this might be a boring question, But why are some wines in a discount and stuff?”
Affordable Wine Tips
46:48 to 47:46
Get tips on finding affordable wines that taste great for gatherings.
“And so for this one, Chateauneuf-du-Pape.”
Transcript
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0:50Alan Carr:Hello and welcome to Bottoms Up with Alan Carr and Lee Peart. This is our weekly drinks podcast where we tackle your wine questions and do our best to sound like we know our Malbecs from our Merlots, our Chardonnays from our Chablis, our Chateauneuf de Paps from our other wines. Moving on. What's our wine today, Lee Keats? Well, it is our welcome drink. Last week, you brought a bit of champers. As always, we bring a welcome drink. It's my turn to choose. Now, I have chosen... You've chews. I've chews. I've chewed through this bottle.
1:31Alan Carr:and I am slightly nervous. I don't want to say this bad, but it's a chyder. A chyder. It is... Wonderful. It is Welsh, okay? And a chyder. We love Wales. We do. Now, let me tell you the story about this, okay? I was invited to a wine event in London. A wine event? Was it a party? A wine event. It was an orgy. It was my own appraisal. Was you going to your wheelie bin? Yeah, the recycling. It's a wine event. Just I turned up. No, I got invited to this event. And now I will say, I didn't really know what it was. I didn't bother inviting you because I knew you probably was busy. So I took lovely Harry.
2:21Alan Carr:Harry came along. Bless him, I felt bad. Why do I feel jealous? What? What, that I've been hanging out with other people? Yeah. Yeah. Dirty Harry, why? Join us next week where Harry will be co-hosting Bottoms Up. I'll be directing it. No, carry on. So, this is... Now, you don't normally associate Wales with Wales. I know. So, it was a celebration of Welsh vineyard. So, this one is from the Del Vineyard. I want to give a shout out to the Del Vineyard in Monmouthshire. They gifted a bottle. They had a few and this is their rosé. Do you like? Yeah. I really like it. And they gifted this bottle of Echleide.
3:01Alan Carr:And there's a story behind it. This is why I bought it. So back in 2021, it was their first harvest. All right. And they went away for a couple of days. And guess what? They came back, all the grapes gone. The blackbirds and the badgers stole the grapes. Is this a genuine story? Well, I don't think they've made it up. So basically, it was stolen by them and they have then, as an homage to them, they've called it, so Ecleida is Welsh for the thief. And as you can see there, there's a blackbird on there who stole all the grapes. This is so, so they, instead of having, because they scaled up, they've got like 12 ,000 bottles, the lady was saying.
3:50Alan Carr:They only had 150 bottles after all the grapes were stolen. No way, cheeky badger. I know, I know. Full upon grapes. It's so lovely though. I think this was the one, if I remember rightly. Oh yeah, it's very drinkable. It's got a sweetness to it, hasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it was the one that's won an award. But I went to this event. Oh my God. I was expecting to walk in. I thought, everyone's watching the Bottoms Up Wine podcast. I was like, yeah, we've been invited. but honorary guests. Everyone's there with their tasting notes. They were writing things down. I had nothing. I was like, oh.
4:26Alan Carr:And then they had something that we've never seen before. What? A spittoon. That. They were spitting. What is a spittoon? They spit the wine into it. I've heard of this myth, but I never saw it in person until that day. Well, you know why no eyes turn to you? You went with Harry instead of TV's Alan Carr. I would have worn the cloak and the lanterns. You would have. Anyone seen Traitors? Those thieves sound like traitors. So, yes, I thought I'd bring that. The Del Vineyard. It's Welsh and it's a wine of Wales. I think we should be supporting them. Yes. I'd never ever go for Welsh wine, but I would definitely with this.
5:10Alan Carr:Was it Echcleider? Echhaider. Stolen by the birds and the badgers. Have you ever gigged in Wales? Have I? Gigged in Cardiff. Cardiff, the Glee. I've done the Glee. Oh, I love that down in Mermaid Key. That's nice. Have you been to Chip Alley? No, what's that? It's an alley where they serve chips. Oh, right. Yeah, it's amazing. So it is literally Chip Alley. Yeah, Chip Alley. I went on a little. You go there in Cardiff after you've had a night out, 3 a.m., you know, VIP section. Are you a... Are you a... What a flex. Come with me. I've got a place to take you. I VIP down in Chip Alley. Are you a gravy on your chips?
5:53Alan Carr:Because I'm not. What? Gravy? Yeah, some people like chips and gravy. Curry sauce. Cheese? Cheesy chips. I wonder if we could do a cheesy chip special. What do we pair that with? What would you have with cheesy chips? I have a bit of mayo on the side. No. Why? Mayonnaise. What do you like? I like curry sauce. Just with the chips. Yeah. Well, I went to Wales for a city break, okay? Which city? Oh, it wasn't a city break, actually. It was like a weekend stay, sorry. It was in the middle. It was rural Wales. I can't remember fully where we were, but we were in like the middle of nowhere. Went to this pub.
6:31Alan Carr:I ordered a gin and tonic. I said, oh, can I have a gin? He serves me this gin and tonic. I said, oh, he said, do you want a lemon with that? I said, oh, do you have a slice of orange? I said, like as a garnish. Are you trying to get gay, Besh? No. Do you know what he said to me? Orange? You're not in London anymore, mate. Sorry, I didn't realise you didn't have oranges in ways. Orange is a bit much. You were trying, you were, come on. A slice of orange is not much. You'd gone in there. The darts have stopped mid-air. The dog had gone like this. You'd minced in there. I didn't, I wasn't, orange.
7:07Alan Carr:I wanted pink grapefruit, so I stopped myself from saying it. Have a day off. pink grey that's the perfect gin garnish that was a is a hill I will die on and I nearly did on that Welsh trip yeah sorry orange that's not a bad thing to ask for that's a lot that's a lot to ask in Wales anyway listen you've had a mare of it recently haven't you no I lost my phone well you didn't lose it you left it in a dressing room so you did you went back on stage didn't you I know I went back on stage how was it it was wonderful It's so nice to be able to say, I was nervous all day, well, basically all week. Because I bet, do people go to you, do you get nervous?
7:49Alan Carr:You always get nervous, all the time. I mean, do you care? Yeah, of course. And then I was buzzing with the reception, and then, of course, la, la, la, mince out the door, woo-hoo! Left my phone in the theatre, and then the theatre was shut all day, so I didn't have my phone with me. And then I finally got it back on Monday, so I had a sort of digital detox. It was so funny because I'd gone on WhatsApp and said, how was the show? And it said, last seen yesterday at half eight. And you know what? I'm like, I'm always on my phone. Yeah, I thought, he's lost his phone. So I get a call an hour later from your brother.
8:22Alan Carr:I just answered it. He's lost his phone, hasn't he? And he went, yeah, mate, he's lost his... Because you had to go to a payphone. Payphone? Which stank of piss. When does that... They always stank of piss, I know. But like, who's still... That's their thing. But who's... Like old people, they stick to piss. How? Who is still pissing in phone boxes? And it was next to a toilet. Piss in the toilet. I know, yeah. So I go in there, I'm like... You know now, hey kids, anyone here 50? No, okay. Listen to this story. Gather round. Gather round. When you used to use a payphone before mobiles, you used to put your phone thing in the slot.
9:09Alan Carr:You've got to press the button now. Oh. To go in the slot. What do you mean? Well, you don't just put it in. It's not put it in there, just hang in there. Press the button. I just shove it, give it in an extra shove. Stank a piss. And then one of them had emergency phone calls only. I said, I've lost my phone. It is an emergency. And then when I finally got my phone, I went, oh, release. Yeah. Five piss calls. Four of them from you. No one gives a shit. Did no one care? No one cared. I could be dead. And you couldn't get into your Mac, did you? You had a mare with your keyboard. Yeah, because I tried to put in my passcode for the Wi-Fi and it's me two dogs' names.
9:54Alan Carr:And one of them's called Joyce and the J didn't work. Oh, so you couldn't get in. And I hate that when they go, you've used that password before. Yeah. Yeah, who has different... I've got fucking 30 different accounts I've got. I've got shopping to do. I can't come up with new, I'm not, I'm not a machine. Okay, don't stress, calm down. But they put you on pressure and then they go, oh, there's no symbol in this. And then you just end up putting exclamation mark. But listen, you like a wine as well. Have you ever had the facial recognition and you're so bloated from drinking wine that your phone doesn't recognize you?
10:32Alan Carr:Yeah, yeah, or you can't open your eyes the next day and you just like, you have to put your pin in. I'm with that piss. What, like a bird box? And you're doing it to yourself. Isn't that... What's that, the one with Bullock? With Sandra Bullock where he forces the eyes open. All I want to know is my balance.
10:56Alan Carr:I do not want to know my balance after a nine hour, I tell you. Oh my God, yeah. Why are you opening your eyes? No, yeah, yeah. Just keep them closed. But yeah, I just don't like that. And then they say, oh, you know, your password's used on other accounts. I stopped being fucking nosy. I'm sick of, while we're getting this off our chest, data leak. It's been shown up in a data leak. Who cares? Who cares? Let them into my Pinterest account. Steal those bloody colours of me paints. They're not Pinterested. They don't care. I'm just like, yeah, oh, it's too much. But I can't come up with new passwords every time.
11:32Alan Carr:Yeah, and now it's like you need a special number, you need a this, you need a that. You've got to put a character in there. It's too, you know, similar to old ones. It's boring. Anyway. Do you know what my original Yahoo account is? And don't try and hack it now because I've changed it. Oh, your email address. Yeah. Because, yeah, what was your first email? Camp. Camp? It was four letters. Camp at yahoo.co.uk. No, it was my thing and then my password was camp. Oh, your password was camp. Because it went back in 1999. It said, for your password, describe you. And I went, camp. four letters camp they wouldn't accept that now would they no they wouldn't and don't try and check it out because it's changed it's camp exclamation mark ha who's the idiot now so Easter's coming up I I prefer Easter to Christmas there I've said it it's interesting because I don't care about Easter at all oh wonderful it's one of my thank you to everyone celebrating Easter we couldn't care less why do you prefer it to Christmas?
12:37Alan Carr:I love Easter. It's got more of a drama. I don't want to piss off like religious people. Jesus died. Jesus came back to life. I know. It's quite like a ooh, look who's back. Look who's back. Back again. Thought you'd seen the last of me. Yeah. Yeah. That rock went back. Boom. So you like Easter. Is it because of the eggs or is it because of the religious message or is it a bit both? I like the religious message. You know, crucified. Oh yes, That message. No, he got crucified. Then he came back, which I love that rebirth, which of course is why we have eggs. Is it? Yes, earth. No, eggs. Oh my God, what's in this fucking wine?
13:20Alan Carr:This is the most brilliant religious education lesson I've ever had. That's why I got acts from Songs of Praise. No, he comes back. No, no, what? Tell me again. Crucified. Oh, that's sad. On the Good Friday. Crucified. No, no. And then he comes back and I think that is, because it's spring, isn't it? Spring, rebirth. Yes. Rejoice. And you feel like a new person. Yeah. And it is the, yeah, it's when things start bubbling up because it changes every year, doesn't it? Because I used to be like, why does it change every year? But it's something to do with the equinox or something, isn't it? You've lost me there.
13:59Alan Carr:Well, listen. Easter eggs. I'm going to be controversial now. Okay. I think they aren't as chocolatey as they used to be. In what sense? As in not as chocolatey as they used to be. As in... Then chocolate isn't as nice. No, as in there's less of them, like they're smaller, or you mean like less sugar. They're using less, it's not like it used to be. Easter egg chocolate is different from your Twirl and your Kit Kat. It is like proper chocolate. I just think unless you're a child, why are you getting an Easter egg? I just don't think it's a thing. I'm lying. You've never had a Kinder Surprise? It's a surprise.
14:42Alan Carr:Yes, I have when I was seven. It's a surprise. It's a toy. Something to play with. And it's chocolate. Something to play with. Right. So list your toys from your Kinder Surprise. Well, I don't have a travel chess set. Oh, here we go again. I've got to. Yeah. Okay. No, no. Carry on. If I've got a long journey, I get a Kinder Surprise because I know I get a meal, something to play with. A meal. A meal. Easter egg is a nutritious meal. And inside, sometimes you get like smarties. That's dessert. After your meal. After me meal. I'm like, oh my God. Well, Jesus. You've never had an Easter egg? No, I have had an Easter egg, but I just, I don't know.
15:29Alan Carr:Who's buying you Easter eggs? I buy them myself. Aww. You don't buy yourself an Easter egg? No. Everyone's doing it. No! Anything else left to say? No, it's fine. Do you know what? I'm going to buy you an Easter egg. Back off. I don't want your Easter egg. Why? You could choke on it. I'm going to get you a kinder surprise. Yeah, I'll choke on the toy. yeah you can't it says there's a sign on it says do not give to child i'm not a child jesus would have been the perfect guest guest on bottoms up why well he would have brought his own water if you know what i mean turned into wine very good very good happy birthday jesus oh no he died.
16:22And then he came back.
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18:38Alan Carr:I don't know why they're disco. We're about to find out. I had a disco biscuit. What a night that was. They're not like digestives. Well, we're about to find out disco scallops. It may be a very different ending. and a surprise wine that goes with it. So this segment is called The Perfect Pairing. Welcome, Rich. How are you doing? Chef at the Broadcaster. Thank you so much. I'm very well. We love it here. The food's delicious. How much have you had? Hello. Stop it now. Now, scallops. Now, what are scallops again? Because someone told me they're a mermaid's clit. Yeah, it's a good way. When they're fresh.
19:30Alan Carr:When they're fresh. So look, they're shellfish. We pan fry them. Jerusalem artichoke puree. They're pan seared with brown butter, apple gel, a little bit of apple and pancetta and sage. Oh, delicious. And they're perfectly paired. What with? With this. Oh, I've had that before. That's so lovely. So this is the open house house wine, which we launched this year. This one's called Ooh La La. Yeah. And it's nice and dry and crisp. Perfect with this. Now, before we carry on, I do want to know, why is it disco scallops? Okay. So there's a guy called Pete down in Cornwall. He has started to fish with the cages and they have flashing lights on them.
20:19And what it does is it attracts the scallops to swim directly in. So they come in.
20:24Alan Carr:It's like that with the gays. We're walking down the street, we see something flashing, we go in. Yeah, that's true. That makes me feel, I don't know, it makes me feel sad that these scallops are being like, woo, party! Yeah, and then, yeah, yeah. But it's better than the old method or one of the other methods where they just chuck the nets in, pull it across all the bottom of the ocean. Oh, yeah, yeah. They have a dance before they die. Exactly. Yeah. I don't know if you know, Rich, but we started this podcast, the inspiration was we did wine tasting in Cape Town, People who have listened will know this.
20:56Alan Carr:And so I think we need to have a taste of the wine first just to see what it tastes like. And then we'll try the food and hopefully the pairing will be perfect. And the thing is, if that's the house wine, house wine back in the day meant the best. It sort of showed off the pub, didn't it? Yeah, well, there's a lot of effort. Oh, house wine, but it should if it's right. And I've had that before and it's delicious. Okay, let's have a taste. It smells amazing. Nice, fresh. It smells light. Oh, that's delish. Okay, gents, I'm going to leave you to it. Enjoy. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. Thank you. So I like this.
21:34Alan Carr:So this is, if we were going to order scallops, you would get the perfect pairing with a Sauvignon Blanc. So lovely, nice and fresh, that wine, isn't it? Shall we tuck in? Yeah. It's nice just drinking here, isn't it, without even having any food? It is. Which you can do, but, you know, we can also pair it with scallops. Scallop? Not all. Yeah, a bit of napkin. I'm going to use my napkin because I've got beige trousers on. Okay. So, this is... Apparently, the crisp acidity cuts through the buttery scallops beautifully. So, let's have a taste of these. Let's pick up the... Save on washing up on it.
22:13Alan Carr:I might have a shell as a plate every time. No washing up. Well, no washing up, but you'd have to go out and get the shells each time. Yeah, I suppose swings and roundabouts. Where's Alan? He's out looking for shells. No washing up, though. His water bills have gone right down. He's got hyperthermia. Oh, the butter. Oh, my God. That's delicious. There's also a bit of pancetta in there. So you've got the saltiness. You've got the butter there. Let's have a bit of this pancetta. And you've also got some apple puree. Oh, my God. That's amazing. So many different tastes. And apparently, you pair that with this Sauvignon Blanc, Sauvie B.
23:09Alan Carr:I know you hate it when I do a cab sav, but Sauvie B, that's what I call it. And like I said, the crisp acidity. It cuts through the buttery taste. It does affect the way you drink it. Because often, sometimes when I'm out, I'm like, you just get the wine you want. But actually, if you compare that perfectly, it's delicious, isn't it? So delicious. And you want basically, apparently, the citrus and peach notes echo the freshness of the apple puree. So it complements that perfectly. And also, I think, even if you're not having scallops, if you're having a fish dish, something like that, because it just goes together, You can't go wrong, can you, really?
23:49Alan Carr:No. And again, you're not a massive white fan, are you? But... This is so lovely. I hear that perfectly, especially with summer coming up. Just imagine, like, being at the broadcaster. They've got a gorgeous roof terrace on top with a nice glass of ooh-la-la and a scallop. And with the TV centre over there, you could see a celeb. You could indeed. David Dickinson. well we've all got dreams are you good so to round up if you were having scallops what kind of wine is that what would you get with it so you want a french you want like a sauvignon blanc like french you want it to be crisp you want acidic so it cuts through and um you want the citrusy uh taste of it which which a Sauvignon Blanc generally is.
24:43Alan Carr:That was absolutely delicious. Thank you, broadcasters. I'm going to finish this as well. Thank you, Richard. Love. I want more scallops. I want disco biscuits. Scallops.
24:58Alan Carr:Now, our guest really knows his way around a wine aisle, especially if the wine bottles have got a yellow sticker on. He's here to save us money. It's the brilliant Andy, the affordable wine hunter. Hello, Andy. Hello, hello. Thank you for having me on. Hi, Andy, welcome. First time on the pod. It is, it is. Did you watch it? You mentioned earlier, how are we getting on? You're getting on very well. You've had lots of great people on, and I think you've learned a lot of the basics now. Oh, thanks, love. Yeah. Have we missed a trick? I mean, how can we get, you know, Easter coming up? How can we get those bargains, those wine bargains?
25:37Alan Carr:What do I do? It's the perfect time of year. Most of the supermarkets, the sort of Sainsbury's, Tesco's, Asda, those kind of places, often have in the run-up to any bank holiday weekend, 25 % off mixed six. So if you can afford to just get six rather than one, you can get some great bargains in at this time of year. Because isn't that how you got into it? You bulk, did you used to go to France or something and bulk? I used to get, we live about half an hour, an hour away from the Channel Tunnel. And for 10 years, used to go away twice a year to France with a few friends, stock up with wine from these stores over there.
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26:11Alan Carr:How many would you buy? 120 each time. Wow. And hypermache? Hypermache. Calais wine. And there used to be a Majestic over there as well. And Calais wine would pay for your crossing as well if you committed to buying wine. So you get a free day out too. Oh my God, that's the kind of day I would go on. Yes. Me too. But Brexit and COVID put a stop to all of that. So I find myself back in the UK going, oh, all the wine's a lot more expensive than I used to paint. So, but then you see one supermarket's got an offer on one week. The next week, someone's got an offer on. The week after that, someone else has got an offer on.
26:43So I just started to talk about that on Instagram, did a little wine exam, which was like a light bulb going off my head to sort of say, oh, I now understand this world a lot more than I used to. And just found that people were really interested to know what's an offer this week, what's an offer next week. You know what, I love you. You're like Martin Lewis.
26:59Alan Carr:Martin Lewis of wine. Martin Lewis for people like me, Alkis. Yeah. A drunk Martin Lewis. Yeah. Yes. but drink responsibly yeah always drink responsibly we've got Easter Easter bank holiday coming up what should people be putting in their Tesco trolley or Sainsbury's trolley or Little Trolley or Asda or farm food anyway I've got time for this there is something about the bank holiday where all the supermarkets think that the great British public is just going to go out there and get loads more wine and that's a good thing for us great thing but in terms of What you put in your trolley, I mean, anything that's on offer, anything that's got a bargain on it, particularly those...
27:40Anything that's got a bargain on it. Come on, love. If it's what you like. You know, the wine game is about buying what you like at the end of the day. So if you like something and if you want to drink Blue Nun, I don't want to drink Blue Nun, but if someone does, then they should buy that if it's an offer.
27:54Alan Carr:Would you judge someone if you saw someone with Blue Nun in the basket and a black tower and what is it, Lembrini? A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. a little bit only because there's so much better out there there's so many other wines to enjoy there's so many great flavours and so it's just I would love people to just experiment a bit more than that if you're I think really anyone who just buys the same wine day in day out week in week out is just missing out on so much that's out there because also I guess with wines you don't have really ever have individual bottles reduced down do you but you have like multi-buy offers that's the main thing as long as you get a mix of six so you can get any six bottles and then you get the discount off all of that But the real trick is if you get the double discount.
28:38So my favorite, people say, you're the affordable wine hunter, you do six pounds wines, but sometimes, but what I'd rather say is, look at a bottle that's normally 10 or 11 pounds, in fact, like this one. It's then on offer down to like 8.25. They then do mix six on top of that. And suddenly you're getting this 11 pound bottle of wine for just over six quid. That's how to buy a six pound bottle of wine, not to go start from the bottom up and go, I'm going to get this one at six pounds.
29:03Alan Carr:Ah, because what I like to do is pretend to have a baby in a pram, little five-finger discount, push the pram out. You get it all free. Yeah, that's great advice. Martin Lewis would condone that. Even Martin Lewis is going, wow, what a saving. The Martin Lewis broad ball. A 100 % save. It's a different Martin Lewis. No, no. Oh, that's really good. That's really good. What is your, what's your go-to? What's your favourite wine? Well, I also want to know what's your favourite supermarket or is it like Sophie's Choice for you? You can't choose. It is a bit like Sophie's Choice. I think that they've all got some great wines in them.
29:45Some of them are better than the other ones, but they've all got some good ones to get in.
29:49Alan Carr:I guess, do the savings, you know, push you into different stores? So whichever store has the best saving. But how do you find them out? Are you just always going around supermarkets, nebbing at the savings? Quite often. I mean, certainly to start with, but now on. Nebbing around. Nebbing, what the name? Nebbing, like nebbing around. Is that a Grimsby phrase? Probably. Nebbing. You've heard nebbing. I haven't. I haven't heard nebbing. Because that's giving me like nebbing. Yeah, nebbing's like, oh, what are you nebbing at? You're nebbing, you're nosying. Noseying at the savings, you nebbing. So I do a lot of that, do a lot of nosying about, but I get to go to a lot of the supermarket press tasting.
30:25So I get to taste them all in advance and go whether I like them or don't like them. And then I kind of wait until they're on offer and that's when I start promoting people.
30:33Alan Carr:Because what we forget is when we go, oh, supermarket wine and all that, but they have a dedicated team. They have probably the best sommeliers they know. So in a way, it's a bit snobbery. Oh, supermarket wine. And now I don't want to put you on the spot, but who's got it right? Just name a supermarket that they've always, they always sink ahead. They, you know, is there anyone like, can you at least give us one that you like? I think it depends on price point. I'll spin it that way. If you're comfortable spending over£10 a bottle, then, you know, the likes of Waitrose. Your Waitrose customers are going to spend a little bit more and maybe your Sainsbury's taste of difference and all that.
31:10And if you're in the lower end, then your Aldis and your Littles are your better bet to go. They have some good wines in there at quite low prices.
31:16Alan Carr:Yes, Aldi. Aldi wins best wine. We did with Alex James from Lure. We did a Whispering Angel dupe taste test. And it was actually the Screaming Devil from Asda, as it was, that came out on top. Can I just get this off my chest with Tesco? He ain't going to slag off Tesco, is he? No, and it's fine, but you go to Tesco, this is£20. But if you've got a club card, it's 4p. Like, they are forcing you to get a club card, which I do have, but those club card discounts are massive sometimes. But at least you don't have to pay for a club card. No, you don't. But, you know, we've invited him on to talk about supermarket wine, let's not gripes.
31:57Alan Carr:There was a spillage, you know, in Lidl the other day. I was there for an hour. I was cleaning it up. How can you come on here? He's here to talk about why. He's not Mr. fucking Tesco. So what did you, because this is your full-time job now, but what did you do before this? I did a very big corporate job. I did lots of Excel and PowerPoint and other things like that. Okay, so you've really changed. I've really changed. This is just the last four or five years. just pursuing passion projects. Yeah. And wine is one of those. Well, that's like us, isn't it? We just love wine. We love wine. So listen, what's this then?
32:34Alan Carr:What are you going to teach us? Well, watching the past shows, I think you've learned a lot along the way. You've done many... Thanks for saying that. Thanks for lying. You've done mouthfeel. You've done length. You've learned lots of things. Gus. We can't wait for that episode. That might be another one. That's coming up. Bring it on. It's time for you. You've covered, one of the themes I do is lesser known grapes and regions are your friends. And I think you've learned about that because you've done some Romanian wine, you've done some Lebanese wines. Another theme I've got is the neighbours of the famous.
33:08So this is sort of levelling up a little bit for some of the basics you've done before.
33:11Alan Carr:Neighbours of the famous. So is this in terms of like regions? Because you know what? I'm the same with a rosé. If I see Provence, I go, oh yeah. And like Malbec, if it's Argentina or Chile, I got, oh, that. So if you want to save a bit of money, sometimes maybe just look to the left or the right of that place and you can still get the same thing. Well, you've teed that up very nicely. Thank you. So Provence Rosé, if you break it down, it comes from the south of France. We know where that is. Yeah. It's made from predominantly three grapes, Grenache, Syrah, and Sanso, and it comes from that area.
33:47So what's next door is Languedoc Roussillon, which is the bit between Montpellier and Spain, basically, still in the south of France, still the same climate, and they make their rosés out of the same three grapes a lot of the time, and that's exactly what we've got here. So you've got one just next door to Provence that's essentially the same kind of wine and is usually a few pounds cheaper.
34:08Alan Carr:Isn't it? So it's a bit like, you know, if you're in Brighton, Hove, you're paying for the postcode, you know? It is, isn't it? Like... Postcode lottery. Yeah, yeah. You'll get a lot better bars and clubs there than you might have been in Worthing, though, I don't know. Well, yes, exactly. But you're still getting the same experience. I got duped when I came down from Manchester. I lived in Manchester, Stretford. And then I moved to a house and went, oh, Crouch End Borders. And I felt like High Asimph Bouquet because I went to the bank, watch your postcode. I said, End and Crouch End Borders, Upper Holloway.
34:44Alan Carr:I'm like, excuse me. But I was told they sold it to me. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's a one-minute walk down the road and you'd be in Crouch End. If I did wine in Upper Holloway, it'd be the same as Crouch End Borders. But slightly cheaper. Exactly. I don't know why I started this story. Well, I'm hoping that this slightly cheaper has got better results than some of the other slightly cheaper stuff. What you're saying essentially is you're going to get pretty much the same tasting wine for... Same soil. Same soil, same climate, same way it's made. in many cases, like you said with this bijou, same grapes, but a different price point.
35:25Alan Carr:So rather than being sat in a cafe or a restaurant or bar, whatever, going, hmm, Coates de Provence, they might say, Coates, what is it? I started so well, Lee. I know, I thought, I'm on it, yeah. Oh my God, I'm...
35:45How do you say that? The Languedoc Roussillon. Now, quite often you have to look on the back rather than look on the front. Oh, OK. So the back of this will tell you... Coteau de Bezier. That's the Coteau de Bezier is an area within the Languedoc. But on the back, it'll say Languedoc. On the back, it'll say...
35:58Alan Carr:You've got a bit of an accent. You can say all these things. Are you bilingual? I've been to France over Calais. But I do get pulled up a lot. Calais on a booze cruise. I mean, he's not Michael Baylin. I'm sorry. You're so right.
36:17Alan Carr:Bonjour. Ten bottles of red, please. Silvu play. No, I'm not. No, you're quite right. But you have a lovely accent. But going to a hypermarché. The wine snobs do sometimes come after me and say, oh, you haven't pronounced that correctly. It's not about that. It's about this is the bottle. This is what it's called. This is how much it costs. And as I said, this one here,£11, you can pick it up for probably about£6.50 if you get those bargains right. Wow. Which is very good for us. It's so delicious. I mean, if you gave me that, I would just guess it was Cote de Bravante. It's got the colour, the nice paleness that I love.
36:54Alan Carr:No clack. No clack. Hate the clack. Hints of strawberry. Let's have a go. Strawberry. Yeah, it does. You can't taste strawberry. You can just taste wine, can't you? Wine. I'm getting wine. In a glass. Before we move on to this red, um what do you have like a secret hack where like do you need to know loads about wine or what's your kind of hack in terms of like because you might see loads of discounts but not know what the best one is like I don't want to if something is a bit cheaper because I've got this thing now and it's probably in my head if it's cheap I sometimes think hangover yep and I'm like god this is going to make me feel a bit like bad tomorrow so I would rather pay a little bit more you know avoiding that what's the hack where i can find you know what discount what discounts are the ones where you can still trust that i think what you're sorry this is what you're saying is what because we're the same it's buzzwords isn't it you're in you're after work you just look at that what is the buzzword that you look for on the back of the thing you go oh this i'm in safe hands yeah that's quite that's hard because it's about what you like so yeah you're So if you like red, say you like a red, what would you look at?
38:11Well, I think there's one hat for red is you can't go wrong with Cot de Ron. Now, the peddance will get in there because it's really the rhone, but that doesn't rhyme. So I would say you can't go wrong with Cot de Ron.
38:20Alan Carr:Can't do wrong with Cot de Ron. There's some great ones around between£5 and£6. There's some great ones around at£20, but you can never normally go wrong with that one on the reds. That's good to know. And it rhymes, so you can remember it. Just don't tell the lot to know people. We had a Cot de Ron last week with Tom Gilby, actually. he brought them in. He knows his stuff. It was the one where we preferred the three-year one, wasn't it? Oh, yes, yes. And there was another one that was 20. Oh, it stank like an Oxfam. So let's move on to... Let's move on to this red. So what's this? So the neighbour...
38:57Alan Carr:You know, where's this live next door to? Well, I know that you like Chateauneuf-du-Pape. I love Chateauneuf-du-Pape. This is a move, Andy. God, Andy Right Do you like a Chateauneuf de Peer? I do like a Chateauneuf de Peer I used to drink that back in the day and you used to think I was it I used to love But it's expensive It is It is Sometimes they have that on you know sometimes they're in the supermarket Club card offer I know I know I'm like that and I go this has been a mistake I know so get it while you can I know before they find out It's normally 20 quid 25 quid as they did one before Christmas for 10 They dropped it like that for a week Yeah.
39:36So I put that all over my Instagram.
39:40Alan Carr:I'm like a Pavlov dog, can't help it.
39:45Alan Carr:Auto glass repair. Auto glass replace. Nice. So, neighbour of Chateauneuf-du-Pap. Chateauneuf-du-Pap. What makes Chateauneuf-du-Pap? Again, you've got the grapes, okay, that go into it. There's a load of those, particularly around Syrah. Grenache is the main one. there can be up to 14 it's in the southern rhone this is delicious and uh it's so what is just across the rhone river is an area called lirac and it makes i've heard of this yeah and the other distinction of that area is that it has these large stones in the ground on the ground that warm up during the day they're about this big they're called galley roulet and they warm up and they retain heat and in the evening they then pass some of that heat back onto the grapes as well so So that helps keep the warm at night, which helps to concentrate the flavors of the season.
40:35So it's one of the things that makes Chateauneuf-du-Pape what it is. In Lirac, just across the river, they've got all this as well. It's just people don't really know about Lirac so much. So Chateauneuf-du-Pape, 20-25 pounds. Lirac, this one's from Majestic, 12 pounds.
40:49Alan Carr:And how far, in terms of minutes getting there, is it? How far away? To a Majestic, about 10, 10 where you live, really. It's one in most towns. It depends where the taxi goes for the route. From Chateauneuf to Pappes, I mean, how far is Lira? Well, the Rhone is about as wide as the Thames around there. So how fast you can get across the river. Just popping over. Popping over, yeah. Oh, my God. So find the nearest bridge. This is so brilliant, honestly. I know you heard of Lira. I've never heard of Lira, and I would just, I wouldn't take a chance on that. But this is really delicious. and so what would you say then is the best region that you can bank what would you go right you're in safe hands which wine though which colour why well the Rhone the Cote de Rhone which is the broader region around where these both come from as well actually is generically is quite good so you're always in safe hands with the red and the Rhone you're always pretty much in safe hands with the reds that are there yeah white is a harder game and white I find is so much more difficult is it subjective it is Some people really love Sauvignon Blanc.
41:57Some people hate it. Some people love Chardonnay. Other people hate it. So it's really hard to say which one's which. I mean, I actually like the ones in the middle. You've had a couple of Viognes on here, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they don't necessarily come from a certain region. But if I was saying to someone, they go, what should we have for a party? I always say, avoid the Sauvignon Blancs, avoid the Chardonnays, because they're too divisive. They're a bit divisive, yeah. Get the things like the Viognes, which everybody loves. They're real crowd places. Pitbull's pretty much there as well.
42:22And so it's not so much a region. It's more the grape. I would say, and you can bank on something that's a crowd pleaser.
42:28Alan Carr:How can you tell, this is the thing though, how can you tell, you know, if this is a£6 bottle of wine with a discount, how do I know that that's going to be good still? Ultimately, you still don't. I mean, ultimately, there's no one way that's there's a little code in the bottom corner that says this is great, you like it. It's where you do have to sort of know what you like. Yes, I made this research in there. Know what you're familiar with and, yeah, or trust someone like me. I would say, well, there's lots of other people do what I do as well. But it's like, go with someone who you know their recommendations.
42:57You tend to have a similar palate to them. And if they say, oh, I like this one, I like that one, then just go along with that advice. It's easy. And is it a bit like food?
43:04Alan Carr:Is organic wines mostly usually more expensive because of the organicness? They can be a bit more expensive. It depends. There's a lot of, you know, organic. Is it natural? There's a lot of different phrases. Is it biodynamic that kick around in the wine world? And they get a bit more complicated. Not necessarily better, just different. and do you have a thing on your Instagram like where you alert people where you go listen currently if you want to go out and get this head over to Asda, Sainsbury's Tesco, whatever I just post it a couple two or three times a week depending on what's an offer and a few stories if I'm going around a supermarket I see just an absolute banger of a bargain it's like see I wish we got those instead of like earthquakes and stuff you know on your phone you get a love yeah much happier Oh, my God.
43:52Alan Carr:It's a Malbec half price little. Yeah, instead of like flood warning. Just note about half price. Yes, that's it. Internet will be down for half hour. Boring. So, listen, I know you must be bored shitless of answering this question. But, you know, why are, oh, God, this might be a boring question, But why are some wines in a discount and stuff? Is it just them giving it a little booze? Yeah, how do they decide it? I mean, that's a stupid question. I don't know. No, no. Like you said, sometimes, oh my God, bargain. And then, is it beyond our recognition or do they just fancy giving it? Sometimes they've got something that's on promotion that they've got on promotion.
44:41But other times, at certain times, particularly around Christmas, they just want to get you in the shop. They know if you come in to get a bottle of wine, and you're not going to just leave with that bottle of wine. You're probably going to leave with half a trolley full of stuff as well. Of course, yeah. So if they can get you in with this Chateauneuf-du-Pap's on at half price, which is an amazing deal, you're going to walk out with a lot more of that, especially around Christmas time. So before Christmas, you get a lot of those going. It's all marketing, isn't it? And they might be losing money on that bottle of wine.
45:03Because you know what they do. Which is our game, don't you?
45:05Alan Carr:You know, supermarkets, the milk, always the furthest away. Why? So you have to go through the stock to do it. So you have to go through and you pass that Chateauneuf-du-Pap. I always wondered why that was at the back. Always at the back. And they have fresh bread in the thing. Yeah, always at the back. Because if you're popping in for a loaf or milk, the essentials, nappies as well. You ever seen nappies at the front of the store? No, you haven't. And by the time you get to them, they've shit themselves. No one wants to see nappies. Oh my God, shat enough to pat. Shat, shat, shat. Shat enough to pat.
45:41Alan Carr:You're putting the shat in Chateauneuf to Pampers. Chateauneuf to Pampers. Chateauneuf to poop. Sorry, Andy, we are taking this seriously.
45:55Alan Carr:Oh, God. Oh. No. All right. So, actually, I think that is really interesting. So, okay, let's just... Poor old Andy. We are quizzing him. Let's just recap. If you look... Oh, can I just have a little bit more? Of course you can. So lovely. Honestly, you've opened my mouth. You've opened my mouth. So, if you love a Coates de Provence, which I think a lot of people do, it's very popular, isn't it? It's the big one to go for. And basically, a lot of people just say Pale Rose, you think Coates de Provence. If you want to go to Languedoc, is it? Languedoc. Languedoc. Languedoc. You will get pretty much the same taste for a quarter of the price, okay?
46:40Alan Carr:and perfect if you are having parties as well, if you're buying a load of wine. Yes. If you're buying quite a lot, that ends up saving you 20, 30 quid, doesn't it? Yeah, loads. And so for this one, Chateauneuf-du-Pape. Lyrac. Lyrac. Don't be scared to pop over the river, go to Lyrac to get a nice red. Remember that. Pop over the river, jump in the boat, jump in the canoe, off you go to Lyrac. However you want to get there. And you'll love the results. And that's just two of them. And then there's so many more you can do that with as well. What's your handle on Instagram? At affordable wine hunter.
47:14Alan Carr:Okay, perfect. Lots of bargains there. Oh, thank you so much. You've been a, oh my God, you've just blown my mind. It's amazing. Thank you. And you need to pitch that idea where you do like alerts that push through to your phone. Well, they're all my stories. I'd quite let them go, but I can't push them to you necessarily. You just have to keep checking Instagram. Maybe that's a new platform. But so many people spend the whole day doing this. Do you know what? Just take Alan's number and just send him the text directly. Give a couple of key wines. He'll pay you a monthly fee Yeah And if I'm in there And buying some nappies I'll pick up some wine With the chasseh Hope to poop Hopefully my canoes arrived If you've enjoyed this episode Why not join the Bottoms Up crew Follow us on Spotify and Apple And you'll have a brand new episode Dropped on your phone Every week Yeah, you don't want to miss an episode Please do give us a five star review as well It really, really helps us on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple.
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From the publisher
This week on Bottoms Up! Lee gets invited to a wine tasting… with absolutely no idea what he’s doing. Confronted with a spittoon for the first time, he’s faced with the ultimate dilemma: spit or swallow?
The boys sample Welsh wine from The Dell Vineyard and debate the correct way to tackle Cardiff’s legendary Chip Alley - mayo, cheese, curry sauce, or gravy? Plus, Lee recounts the time he nearly caused a scandal in a Welsh country pub… just for asking for a slice of orange in his G&T.
Meanwhile, Alan’s been forced into a digital detox after losing his phone, Lee’s gearing up for Easter, and Alan has some strong opinions about the state of chocolate eggs these days.
There’s also a brand-new segment, where the boys discover which wine pairs perfectly with Disco Scallops from The Broadcaster.
And joining them this week is The Affordable Wine Hunter (@affordablewinehunter), sharing his top supermarket hacks for the Easter Bank Holiday - including the secret of “Neighbours of the Famous”: bottles made just outside world renowned regions that deliver the same quality for a fraction of the price.
Drinks featured:
* Y Lleidr (“The Thief”) – The Dell Vineyard
* Ooh La La Sauvignon Blanc – The Broadcaster
* Le Bijou Rosé de Sophie Valrose – Waitrose
* Léon Perdigal Lirac 2023/24 – Majestic
Drink responsibly, and as always… Bottoms Up!
Bottoms Up! With Alan Carr and Lee Peart is a Listen production.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Coming Up…
00:24 - Lee’s First Wine Tasting (Spit or Swallow?!)
07:03 - Alan’s Forced Digital Detox
11:53 - Alan’s Easter Egg Rant
16:10 - Wine Pairing Disco Scallops?!
23:00 - Cheap Wine Hacks With The Affordable Wine Hunter
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