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25:07It took a while. where's the law? Is the DOJ going to do anything about it? And worse, you know, technology is value neutral. The value comes from you and I. And the only way for you and I to express value on top of these companies is through the government. We have no other type of system. We can't just socially be like, oh, we're not going to use Grok because it's like, it doesn't happen. So that's why I think that the law is very important here. And just, yeah, this explosion of the OnlyFans content creator model. I mean, I'm sorry. Like, we don't need more of you here over here. Can we at least all agree on that?

25:41Like, even if you're a rabidly pro-immigrant, it's like, under what basis is this good, it would make you an extraordinary talent and benefit to our society? If we had for years a legal and a social stigma against the dramatic embrace of all this. And instead, now we have a culture of like, oh, it's all good. Money is money. All money is green. It doesn't matter. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated. And Black America was at a breaking point. Rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale.

26:18In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts What if mind control is real?

27:06If you could control the behavior of anybody around you what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious NLP, a.k.a. Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness.

27:41Mind Games is the story of NLP, its crazy cast of disciples, and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations, you get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas.

28:22and also you know your daughter's incredible that's beautiful man yeah thank you that's so beautiful i can see that got you a little yeah for sure our daughter she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances which i've not really talked about ever growing up on disney in front of million how did that shape your sense of self i went blank i hit a bad note, then I couldn't kind of recover. And I built up this idea that music and being a musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

29:07And this is the world that we live in now. It's bleak. It's bad. All right. So with all that, we have the blowback boys standing by. Let's get to it. Recently at Dropside News, we can put up G3 here. We put out a story, Murtasi Hussain and myself, the headline, Epstein, Israel and the CIA, how the Iran-Contra planes landed at Les Wexner's base. We covered it previously here, but it looks to answer the question of how did Jeffrey Epstein get his start and where did he make his money and what are his links to the intel community? So after that piece came out, Noah Cullen, who's one of the co-founders, the co-hosts of the Blowback Podcast, reached out and he was like, we've got this new episode, this new series on Angola that actually talks a bunch about this.

30:00And it is truly fascinating. I got to look at the premium. It's out now. So I highly recommend that people listen to it. But it tells the story of Angola. And Jeffrey Epstein's involvement in Africa is one of the kind of most under-discussed parts of it. It's also the thing that got him famous because in 2002 he took Clinton to Africa. It's also the thing that shows that he is a person who has always had his finger on the pulse of where money and power kind of flows in our global society. Now, Emily was going to be on here today, and actually I think she listened to the whole blowback series to get ready for it.

30:45Sagar subbed in for him. Yes. So Noah and I are going to educate Sagar on what's going on here. So Noah, thanks for joining us. You would need two or three hours to do justice to this conversation. Luckily, your podcast series does run at least that long. But we'll do what we can today. So thanks for joining us. Good to see you, man. Hey, thank you for having me. Really appreciate it and all the kind words. And so let's throw up – actually, let's throw up the map here because you have an interesting part where you say like the CIA began its briefings of the White House just with a map. Well, it was actually it was.

31:29So this was CIA director William Colby, who is addressing the NSC. And the account of this meeting comes from an ex CIA officer named John Stockwell. And Colby is explaining what's going down in 1975 in southern Africa by telling the National Security Council, at that time the most important national security policymaking body. And he says, this is a map of Africa. And this is Angola. And these are the good guys. These are the bad guys. And then these guys we don't know too much about. But the that is how the highest levels of Washington initially were apprised of what Angola was and what it meant at the beginning of what became a secret CIA covert action, or at least near the start, if not the very beginning.

32:24And I think that's an appropriate way to kind of start a segment about Angola for an American audience. But it's a truly embarrassing way for the United States to start its own kind of involvement in the region. And so in that map, people saw South Africa, which at the time was apartheid South Africa, and which at the time occupied Namibia, which was just to its northwest there. Namibia had been the victim of Germany's first genocide in the early 20th century. And after that, South Africa ended up occupying it and is fending off an insurgency to throw South Africa out of there. North of that, you've got Angola.

33:12North of that, importantly, you have what was then Zaire, which is a Democratic Republic of Congo. which, and we've talked, Emily and I interviewed the guy who wrote the recent biography of Patrice Lumumba. You know, his assassination plays a critical role here as well, because the CIA's man, Mabutu, coming into Zaire, plays a huge role in the history, as you talk about here, because it allows for the CIA and its insurgents and its backing to have a base of operations to kind of constantly mess with Angola. The reason that this is interesting today, I think two reasons. One, Cuba and Venezuela, because I think there's actually a shadow there, but also Jeffrey Epstein.

34:00So let's roll the Jeffrey Epstein portion of, I think this is episode eight or so. This is season six. And then we'll unpack this. So let's roll that clip. One particular irony of the scandal was that when Eugene Hassenfiss had been shot down over Nicaragua, he had been flying a plane for a CIA front company called Southern Air Transport. As it turned out, the MPLA government in Luanda, which was fighting the CIA, was also contracting with Southern Air Transport, having very few options for air cargo in Angolan skies. Apparently unaware of the company's history, reports the LA Times, the Soviet and Cuban-backed Angolan government in 1984 paid Southern Air Transport to run a busy airlift that kept two Lockheed L-100 cargo planes flying nearly around the clock, according to Diamond Industry sources.

34:47The Angola contract accounted for about 65 % of Southern Air Transport's income. Luanda, after learning more about Southern Air, promptly canceled its dealings with the airline. But while Angola's business with Southern Air was done, one of the CIA's most notorious proprietaries, or front companies, lived on. A decade later, in the mid-1990s, Southern Air Transport relocated to Columbus, Ohio. There, it fell into the control of Les Wexner, CEO of the parent company of Victoria's Secret and Abercrombie & Fitch. Wexner used the airline to bring merchandise from Hong Kong to the States. And the person who reportedly arranged the sale and relocation of Southern Air Transport, Jeffrey Epstein, Les Wexner's financial advisor, suspected spy, reported blackmailer, and convicted pedophile.

35:32So Jeffrey Epstein brings this CIA-backed airline, after it's done with its Iran-Contra business, to Columbus, Ohio to work for Les Wexner. And then interestingly, you can put up G3B. We had reported this in our piece that after it was done in Columbus and right as the kind of CIA IG report is coming out and exposing that it actually was doing the things that we now understand that it was doing, they sell they declare bankruptcy but before that they sell half their planes to a UAE based airline which does business in Angola and it begins uh they begin again trafficking uh blood diamonds and so and so in the middle of all this the entire time um is is Jeffrey Ep is Jeffrey Epstein and so at one point he had said you know that how did you make your money he told a journalist Guns, drugs, and diamonds.

36:30So before we get into all of the Epstein part, which is utterly fascinating, let's talk a little bit about the Cuban element of this. So the MPLA, which is the kind of socialist government, after the Portuguese leave, they're consolidating control. Uh, the South Africans feel like having a leftist anywhere in Southern Africa is a threat to apartheid. And so they, they start to invade. They're blocked shockingly by Cuba. So what was, what was Cuba's current situation and what advantage was there at all, um, to Cuba intervening militarily in Angola? There was none.

37:47a way of hemming imperial ambitions that they viewed as part of a global system. And that there was, you know, in that broader sense, it was a way of fighting and applying pressure against its own enemies, namely the United States, you know, through acts of solidarity. But in, you know, but that's a pretty abstract thing. The reality was that Cuba in 1975 was faced with a moral dilemma. The Angolan nationalists who had competed amongst themselves, various factions, to be the ones who would take power after the Portuguese left in late 75, the left-wing Marxist faction, the MPLA, was in control of the capital city and was poised to be able to actually assume the responsibility of government.

38:38And they were the favored sons, or at least they were the favored inheritors of that authority by the departing Portuguese who were now part of a recently installed left wing junta. And the Angolans, the remaining two Angolan factions, one was the FNLA, which was very strongly CIA supported, very much aligned with Mobutu and Zaire and led by a guy named Holden Roberto. And then you have Jonas Savimbi, who headed a more unknown faction at the time called UNITA. But we'll hear more about him later. And the Cubans were, you know, they were told explicitly in mid-75, and they understood because they were in contact with the Angolan, the MPLA leadership, that essentially the CIA and the South Africans had begun arming and mobilizing against the MPLA.

39:36There were already border incursions, there had been huge fighting across the country, and neighboring South Africa had a huge interest in not wanting to see what they viewed as an aggressive communist government coming to power. In part because, as you said earlier, South Africa occupied Namibia, and through its occupation of Namibia, Namibia would be exposed to Namibian rebels who would be able to take sanctuary in southern Angola. And so the South African interest rears its head at this time. So all these threats are rearing their heads against what in November 75 is the new government, the new nation of Angola, led by the left-wing MPLA.

40:21And the South Africans immediately invade Immediately invade from the south They launch two different divisions And the FNLA from the north and the central area They attack And the FNLA is wiped out Because they're pretty incompetent and threadbare And the CIA operation to fund them is revealed It's a huge, it's a fiasco But UNITA and South Africa Are this really dramatic threat that the Cubans, in an act of sort of immediate daring do, send an emergency detachment of armed forces to support the Angolans, who then are able to successfully repel the South African advance. And although the Cuban hand is shown and the U.S.

41:08condemns Cuba in, you know, world fora, like the U.N., for, you know, expanding Soviet, you know, and then Soviet arms, of course, that are fueling all this combat, Or at least fueling the MPLA's ability to fight this battle. And the U.S. is claiming that, oh, wow, there's this – world Soviet communism is on the march again. A CIA operation is revealed that we had been secretly arming these people. And this is at the height of anti – post-Vietnam church committee scrutiny of the national security state. And as a consequence, the Angolan operation gets immediately hemmed in. And as a result, that also means that because the U.S.

41:55refuses to commit to fighting to advancing further and South Africa is at capacity at that moment, the Cubans are able to be this very decisive force. And it doesn't end at this emergency detachment, however, because the new Angolan nation is desperately poor. They have no expertise. The departing Portuguese colonists and settlers, they poured cement and elevators. They threw away the keys to their cars. The Angolan population was incredibly rural And there were very few people who were able to Take up the means of governance And it was a detachment of Cuban technical And humanitarian advisors and doctors Who were able to essentially help provide Some kind of aid in a meaningful way In building this new nation immediately afterward All the while, a Cuban security attachment is necessary, you know, is committed there, again, at great expense and cost to Cuban society.

42:56Essentially, until that point, it had been donated, although eventually they work out an arrangement to just meet cost with the Angolans. They're not profiting from it. They weren't mercenaries. And it begins this, you know, almost 15 year or about 15 year mission that is at once military and humanitarian to support an embattled Angolan government, which is subsequently, you know, opposed by both South African military forces, as well as secretly funded and armed U.S. proxies. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. have both been assassinated, And Black America was at a breaking point.

43:43Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution, I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A-Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

44:32What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

45:08It's about engineering consciousness. Mind Games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations.

45:48You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter's incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little... Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I had not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank. I hit a bad note, then I couldn't kind of recover. And I built up this idea that music and being a musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away.

46:27Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The show's called Blowback. What do you think the legacy of this is that kind of remains with us today? The two main pieces I would say are first that, like, the nation of Angola and the people of Angola suffered enormously. and the legacy of that suffering. I mean, we're talking about a conflict that at some points in the late 80s and early 90s was considered perhaps the deadliest in the entire world. Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people dying, whether it's from malnourishment or disfigurements from landmines.

47:11It is not a conflict many people know about. It's a conflict I certainly knew very little about until we began researching and learning about it for this season. And so I think that just the first piece of the legacy that's with us is that this is a country like many other poor countries in the world that has been wounded by the legacy of nationalist and anti-imperial struggle, frankly. And then the second piece of it, I would say, is that Angola today and or at least the the way in which the, you know, actions and the legacy of things like Angola operate and as pertains to sort of why Ryan asked me on, I think is not something just about Angola specifically, but about something that it represents, which is how America involves itself in foreign conflict to advance a perceived American interest.

48:05which in the time of the Cold War was often structured around and had this huge anti-communist ideological component, as well as obviously rank material interest, if we want to call it that. But it is, I think, if you look at the Angola story and you trace the lineages of it, obviously you arrive at very strange and weird facts like the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was involved with corporations that had been arming Angolan rebels. obviously southern air transport did a lot more than just angola but also it's about you know how even when these wars are over um when there's money to be made when there's tons and tons of money to be made particularly in diamond smuggling in the case of epstein um the ways in which yeah like the you know even if the conflict is over we've put we've moved out we've pulled up stakes we're no longer you know uh going you know supporting our proxies we fucked things up enough or destabilize them enough that some of the world's historical villains who walked the earth until pretty recently are able to profit immensely from it, like Jeffrey Epstein.

49:11The other legacy, the positive legacy, you know, you talk about on the podcast, Nelson Mandela and a lot of other people cite the defeat of South Africa in Angola as the turning point in apartheid, that that is where apartheid had its back broken. They did successfully liberate Namibia and knock the South Africans out of that and allow an independent Namibia to emerge. and then broke the back of apartheid. But so you were in the 70s and 80s. That's where Iran-Contra and Epstein come in because as you talk about, the CIA operation is exposed. It's the late 70s, early 80s. Like people don't have the appetite for these wars, like these CIA dirty wars all over the country.

50:04So Congress is like, we're not doing this. You're not backing a secret insurgency in Angola anymore. And of course, the CIA is like, no, we are. We're going to find a way to do it. And that's where Iran-Contra comes in. And so what we had reported over at DropSite is that Epstein had all of these wild Iran-Contra connections. He was tight with Adnan Khashoggi, who was the financier and the arms trafficker at the center of Iran-Contra. He was a protege of Douglas Lees, a British arms trafficker who had connections with China, which plays an interesting role that maybe we can get into in Angola, like on the side of the U.S.

50:45Like China often was because, you know, they're hostile at the time with the Soviets, was able to kind of arm U.S. allies when the U.S. could not. And we would, you know, with a wink and a nod situation like, hey, like we can't give weapons directly. Maybe China can. That's where a guy like Douglas Leask sometimes comes in. And then Stan Pottinger, who was a lawyer and a business partner of Epstein, helped set up a lot of the kind of legal structures through which the money laundering and such was done for Iran-Contra. And for people who don't know, the middleman in Iran-Contra was Israel. So Israel would send weapons to Iran and then the U.S.

51:31would replenish Israel's supplies so that the U.S. was not directly arming Iran. And ironic that it's OK for Israel to be directly arming Iran, given that they want to go to war with them constantly. Well, at that time, it was a very I mean, I actually think that's a good I before I jump to the point of the direct response to what you're just saying, I do want to say respond to what you're saying a bit earlier about the legacy of the Cuban intervention, which is absolutely right. And probably what I should have led with, which is that the Cuban intervention, which is there's not really a precedent for.

52:05The historian Pierre Ogleses, whom we interview in the show, he's the eminent historian, having worked through the archives of South African, Cuban and American governments to sketch a portrait of these 15 years in his book, Visions of Freedom. You know, he calls it the one time in history that a poor country comes to the defense of another poor country and that it was successful, that the Cubans helped the Angolans not merely outlast but successfully repel South Africans. It was one of the decisive, you know, like it was one of the decisive, it's indisputable factors that led to the South African apartheid regime ultimately agreeing to end itself.

52:49You know, there was a there were a number of other factors. There was what is still not so well understood in the West today, a functional civil war and a violent insurgency being led against the white rule against white rule within South Africa. But the Cuban victory at the city of Cuido Canavale, where you have Fidel Castro issuing battlefield commands over the phone, it's an astonishing scene. And it was a it was an unbelievable at the time. And, you know, obviously totally rational. It was like the it the actual account of the battle makes it clear how it happened. But it is a very special and important historical understanding of the of the significance of the Angolan struggle and the Cuban role in it in why apartheid fell.

53:37And how it really it was a it suggested the South African apartheid regime was just overmatched in so much of what was doing in Southern Africa. Now to your more recent and the specific part about the 80s and sort of how Iran-Contra comes in. I think it's helpful, and reading your coverage of this really affirmed this for me. The heart of Iran-Contra and the specific Iran-Contra deal was this convoluted arrangement by which, as you say, the Americans were supplying arms to the Iranians and using Israel as an intermediary and then using the funds generated from that deal to arm the Contra rebels in Nicaragua.

54:14And that is where the name Iran-Contra comes from. But Iran-Contra as kind of like a signifier for this period of time also kind of works. Because I would argue that the late 70s, and Angola is one example of this, into the early 80s, it represents – we think of it as sort of the moment – these birth pangs of neoliberalism in America. It's represented by this horrible economic calamity that begins to come – that's affected both by existing inflation issues and then with the Volcker shock. And then abroad, though, when Reagan comes into power, both at home and abroad, there are all these different kinds of policy changes and shifts among the attitudes of the American people that allow for both a kind of rearmament, which was not really possible in the 1970s, and a certain kind of appetite for foreign intervention.

55:12And that also coincides with all sorts of different deregulation and expansion of rule by finance throughout different sectors of the American economy that also enables profit to take place from these sorts of sordid deals and these secret wars that pop up in all sorts of parts, primarily in the third world over the course of the 1980s. Angola being one of them, Afghanistan being another, Central America being another. We could go on. And, you know, the savings and loan banks crisis is one example of where you can look to see how these kind of converge, where you see savings and loans banks, which were deregulated dramatically and eventually have to get bailed out by the government as a sector at the end of the decade.

56:04the spies, drug runners, white collar criminals, you know, immediately take advantage of the deregulation and are able to use them. In some instances, it was shown to get to people like Adnan Khashoggi was connected in part to one, at least one I know. BCCI, the Pakistani bank, is another, you know, financial entity that comes into being during this period or at least rises to prominence and participates in a lot of these deals. And I think you can look at Jeffrey Epstein and the involvement of somebody like Wes Wexner years down the line and their connections to these kinds of figures as sort of an example of what is happening more generally in this period in the 1980s, where you have as a matter of the policy shifts of the Reagan administration and what we think of as sort of, I would argue, like the beginnings of the neoliberal era involve allowing for the rise of these kinds of things.

56:59of entrepreneurs, not just of war, clearly, but also of intelligence and who straddle the, you know, like the, the, the world above and, you know, give rides to people like Bill Clinton, but who are, and who were able to make their money by, you know, their adjacency, by dint of their adjacency and their relationships to people who were tied to and ran some of the much darker stuff. And the key detail there, I don't know if we've said it yet, the money, the profits from Iran selling the weapons to Iran, went not only to the Contras, but also to Angola. And into that rides Jeffrey Epstein. Out of it, as we mentioned, the UAE, we've got to leave it here, but Epstein linking up with the UAE and the UAE getting involved with Angola is a nice transition point into the way that our contemporary kind of mafias operate and were born out of that Iran-Contra era.

57:59Super interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Noah, where can people find out more? Yeah, so our show, our full season, our full 10 episodes, they're now coming out weekly. But if you want to listen to all of them now at once, you can go to blowback.show and hit the button that says subscribe. We have a special limited series about the history of the U.S.-Israeli relationship coming out this spring. We'll have another full season later this year, but we have full archives of our seasons about the Iraq war, Korean war, Cuban revolution, Afghanistan wars, rise of the Khmer Rouge. Um, and we got a lot more in the, we got a lot more in the hoppers.

58:34So, uh, thanks for having me. Yeah. You're very welcome. And we'll put, I'm going to listen to the Khmer Rouge one. I don't know enough about that one. Yeah. All right. Thanks man. I'm going to listen to that one too. Appreciate it. Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it, Ryan. Thanks for having me, man. Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it. That was blowbacks. Super interesting. I'm definitely going to listen. Yeah, you're going to like it. All right. I guess we'll see you all tomorrow. I'll be on the show with Crystal.

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