12/11/25: GOP Meltdown Over Healthcare, Sam Altman Says Raise Babies With ChatGPT, Epstein Directed Millions For Pro-Israel Groups, Dems Flip Miami

11 Dec 2025 · 52 min

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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar - Episode Summary (12/11/25)

Episode Overview In this episode of Breaking Points, hosts Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti delve into several pressing topics, including the Republican Party's struggles with healthcare policy, an unsettling suggestion by tech entrepreneur Sam Altman regarding raising children with AI, the controversial financial dealings of Jeffrey Epstein, and notable electoral shifts in Miami favoring Democrats.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. GOP Meltdown Over Healthcare
  2. Republican Challenges: The GOP is currently experiencing turmoil over healthcare issues, amidst rising costs in the Obamacare marketplace.
  3. Democratic Strategies: The shutdown strategy by Democrats has forced Republicans to confront the healthcare crisis, where rising premiums are causing voter dissatisfaction.
  4. Lack of Consensus: There is no unified plan among Republicans, leading to disarray in addressing healthcare policy.
  5. Options discussed include:
  6. Association health plans
  7. Health savings accounts
  8. PBM (Pharmacy Benefit Manager) reforms
  9. Notably absent from their proposals is the extension of Obamacare subsidies, which is critical given the impending expiration of these subsidies.

Key Takeaways

  • Republicans are struggling to provide a coherent healthcare policy.
  • The absence of a plan to address skyrocketing premiums could lead to political fallout.
  1. Sam Altman's Comments on Parenting with AI
  2. Sam Altman suggests using ChatGPT for raising children, indicating a reliance on AI for parenting advice.
  3. Concerns Raised: Krystal and Saagar express skepticism about the reliability of AI in sensitive contexts like childcare, emphasizing the importance of personal decision-making and human interaction.

Key Takeaways

  • There are significant ethical implications of relying on AI for parenting.
  • Altman’s remarks reflect a broader cultural trend towards outsourcing parenting responsibilities to technology.
  1. Epstein’s Financial Activities
  2. New Findings: Jeffrey Epstein's dealings with pro-Israel groups and his financial connections to significant political figures are scrutinized.
  3. Les Wexner's Ties: Epstein had considerable influence over Wexner's philanthropic efforts, contradicting claims of limited involvement.
  4. Wall Street Connections: Despite his criminal conviction, Epstein maintained business relationships with high-profile Wall Street figures.

Key Takeaways

  • Epstein's financial machinations reveal deeper connections to powerful figures and organizations.
  • The ongoing investigation into his dealings suggests a broader systemic problem regarding accountability among elite financiers.
  1. Democratic Gains in Miami
  2. Election Results: Democrats successfully flipped the Miami mayoral race, marking a significant shift in a region traditionally dominated by Republicans.
  3. Factors for Change: Voter dissatisfaction regarding soaring living costs and corruption in local government played crucial roles in this electoral outcome.
  4. Demographic Dynamics: The Latino community, particularly Cuban Americans, is showing signs of shifting political alignment, with notable discontent regarding economic conditions and immigration policies.

Key Takeaways

  • The political landscape in Miami is evolving, presenting potential challenges for the GOP.
  • Local issues and national narratives are influencing voter sentiment among Latino communities.

Conclusion This episode of Breaking Points highlights critical moments in American politics, especially regarding healthcare, the implications of AI in everyday life, financial corruption in elite circles, and shifting voter dynamics in key regions. The discussions underscore the complexities and challenges facing both major political parties as they navigate an evolving political landscape.

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0:411969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. Listen to The A-Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

1:15Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, Sagar and Crystal here. Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, and we are so excited about what that means for the future of this show.

1:59This is the only place where you can find honest perspectives from the left and the right that simply does not exist anywhere else. So if that is something that's important to you, please go to BreakingPoints.com, become a member today, and you'll get access to our full shows, unedited, ad-free, and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. We need your help to build the future of independent news media, and we hope to see you at BreakingPoints.com. OK, so we've got Republicans realize they've got a problem with health care. And, you know, this there's two things that happen. Number one, Democrats with their shutdown strategy did focus a lot of attention on health care.

2:34And I think that made things more politically difficult for Republicans. Number two is, again, just reality. Like health care is really expensive. People are aware now they've gotten their notices if they're part of the, you know, in the Obamacare marketplace that their premiums are going up. There was, you know, a national discourse about who's to blame, not to mention the party in the power. You're just going to automatically sort of like lay the blame at their feet, which is entirely appropriate. And so Republicans are now scrambling to try to figure out something that they can do. But they have zero consensus amongst them about what that may look like.

3:06They really are in the wilderness when it comes to health care. You guys may recall Trump a couple weeks back and I'm going to announce a plan. Then there was a freak out from the Republican caucus. They got pulled. We haven't heard any more about that since then. So yesterday they had a Republican conference meeting where they laid out some of the potential options that they may put together and put to a vote next week in the House with regard to health care. Let's put C1 up on the screen. And I'm just going to read these to you. Some of them are just downright farcical and others are pathetic.

3:40Some of them, you know, are fine things that may have some modest impact, but it's certainly not going to be any sort of saving grace. We've got association health plans. That's basically where you can sort of like get a group together and create your own pool to buy health care plans, which is something that already happens, by the way, but I guess the idea here is to make that easier to happen. Choice accounts, health savings accounts, cost-sharing reductions. I don't really know what that means. Codify Trump administration rules to fix the Unaffordable Care Act. PBM reform. That'd be a good thing to do.

4:11That's a good one. This one I really love. Innovation. Okay. Price transparency, which again is something that, you know, okay, fine, but that's not really going to solve the problem. Like, oh, I have transparency around the fact that I'm getting price gouged. Site neutrality and provider-owned hospitals. So this is sort of a grab bag of ideas, none of which has been completely, you know, backed by the entire Republican conference. And one thing you'll notice here that is not on this slide is extending the Obamacare subsidies. So the immediate source of pain, which is these skyrocketing Obamacare prices, marketplace prices, because the subsidies expire at the end of the year, that is actually not on the table.

4:54And even with these sort of like market based reforms, which, again, could have like maybe a small, modest impact, but it's not going to be any of them a saving grace. Even with these, there is no real consensus within the Republican caucus. So they really are sort of adrift on this one. Let me put the next one up on the screen. This is from Politico. They say the House GOP erupts over health care as leaders hunt for a plan. House Republican leaders presented no firm plan Tuesday for advancing health care legislation as anxiety rises. Instead, Speaker Mike Johnson presented attendees of a closed-door conference meeting with this list of 10 possible policies that could get votes in the coming weeks or months.

5:33Some were specific, like an expansion of health savings accounts. Others were vague, like innovation. The list did not include an extension of the expiring tax credits. The presentation was followed by a heated discussion over the path forward on health care for the party and vulnerable members. including Representative Jen Kiggins, stood up to warn against the political fallout of failing to extend the expiring subsidies. Some later expressed their dismay at how poorly they believe GOP leaders have handled the topic. Quote, there was a general uneasiness because nothing is coming together. Another one says, we wasted so much time.

6:06That was a conservative Republican also lamenting the lack of a unified GOP health plan. Representative Ralph Norman was willing to go on the record to say there was no consensus. So that's sort of the state of play from the Republicans in the Senate. So that's the House. OK, Mike Johnson is saying we're going to do some sort of a vote on something next week. We'll find out what that something is, but apparently does not include extension of the Obamacare subsidies in the Senate. John Thune is planning to bring forward two separate plans, one that is Republican led, which includes some Obamacare extension, but for a limited time and with some changes, et cetera, one that is Democratic-led, and with the expectation that neither one of them is going to pass.

6:49So it's sort of a show vote to pretend like, oh, we're doing something, we're having votes on healthcare. Literally no one is going to care that you took a vote on something that is not going to pass and not going to help your lives. It is genuinely crazy. I mean, do you remember when Obama came? That was 2009. It's 2025. Actually, it was December 2009, right? That famous Christmas vote or all that? I think that's right. So we're coming up on 16 years since this has been in the national conversation. And every time we're going to repeal and replace Obamacare. Okay, great. Obamacare sucks. It's horrible.

7:20It's awful. Most people who are on it don't like it very much. And they think that it's very expensive. You're going to replace it though with what? And they still don't have the what answer. And in the interim six years, we have had multi-digit, sorry, multi-three-digit inflation in healthcare costs, lowering of life expectancy, massive increase in obesity, huge increase in comorbidities for people who are dying in hospitals, not to mention the pandemic where the healthcare system and the scientific community collapsed its entire trust. You cannot say that this has been a victory over the last years.

7:55And yet, when they're in power every single time, we're going to repeal and replace and still replace with what? And even this Trump proposal, C3, put that on the screen. This is pathetic, honestly. He's backing this$1 ,500 checks for healthcare. Now, let's put this all into perspective. So I'm on Obamacare, all right? My healthcare went up by 17%, which is a little, I think it's actually about more than the$1 ,500. So if this were to happen, this$1 ,500 check, it would cover the increase in my healthcare premium, which would mean I would get to pay exactly what I got to pay last. I mean, I guess it's a victory, but for anybody else out there, I have a$10 ,000 deductible.

8:37Most people who are out there, or sorry, a$14 ,500 deductible. Most people are out there who are on employer healthcare. Their deductible is probably in the$1 ,500,$1 ,600 range. So it wouldn't be horrible, I guess, to cover some of their deductible, but it would not cover their average increase in premium. And this gets to cost. At the end of the day, we have to deal with costs. We can do that in a variety of ways. do price controls. I'm hugely supportive of HSAs. I have an HSA. I highly recommend people use it. But even with HSA, let's say you average on S &P 500 returns. If healthcare inflation is 17%, 18%, you're still going to lose.

9:15And if we don't do something about the costs and the system, nothing can be done. But each individual part of the cost structure is highly influential here in Washington at a bipartisan level. So we talked about PBMs. We've been talking about PBM reform for a decade. Still doesn't happen. Yeah. And actually that was the bill that remember Elon knew. Yes. The PBM. Exactly. And Elon didn't like something about it. And so that got killed. And then the PBM part got stripped down. So PBM reform we've been talking about for a decade. It's never happened. We have talked about, you know, Democrats have even talked about public option.

9:48Not even that ever happened. We talked about Medicare being able to negotiate for drug prices. That didn't happen. We were allowed to negotiate the 10 biggest, and by the way, even that is dragging on. It's been kind of a nightmare. Trump is trying to do Trump Rx with directo-zempic. I'm fine with that. I support that. But that's one drug. That's not like the biggest problem. And the healthcare costs have gone astronomical. Doctors who watch Breaking Points always hate it when I say it. It's empirically true. They make way too much money. The reason why they make so much money is because they have way too much debt.

10:20So I don't even hate on them. You have to make 300K to pay off 300K in debt. And the biggest growth in costs in the healthcare system over, I don't know how the past, you know, number of decades. Administrators. Administrative costs. And I mean, look, that is the problem with like a private for-profit healthcare system is if you have, right, all of this like complicated insurance, okay, is this covered? Is that covered? Are we going to cover this? What's your deductible? Are you eligible? All of that. Then yeah, your hospital is going to require all kinds of paper pushers to deal with the insurance companies, which are there on the other side with their own mass army of paper pushers to try to figure out how they can deny as much coverage as possible.

11:05And so that's why you have these constantly ballooning administrative costs, because it's required to navigate the absolute morass and disaster of our health care system. I did want to point out one thing about that President Trump plan, which is you would not actually get 1500. You would get 1000 because only people over the age of 50 get the fuck out of here you're gonna burst a blood vessel in my brain 18 to 49 year olds only get a thousand so i'm sorry sagrat you will only be getting a thousand so it won't actually cover you're gonna increase in the premium you are gonna set me on fire so so the boomers get the bailout and oh these gen x actually yeah so the gen x and the eight The aging Gen X and boomers are the ones who get the$1 ,500 bailout.

11:55But those of us who are just parents of young children, yeah, fuck them, right? You're not doing anything for the - I knew you'd like that. I don't even have words. I knew you'd like that. I agree, that makes me. Yeah, that's America, okay? Total boomer luxury communism. Look it up. One of my buddies just wrote a whole piece about it in the American mind. That's what we have now in this country. It's amazing. And look, just, I mean, the healthcare system as it is, it cannot stand. And yet it does. It's 17, 20 % of GDP. That's part of the reason why even replacing it and cutting costs, it would cause a recession.

12:29The number of administrators and costs and price that is all tied up into pharmaceutical... I mean, go take a drive, man. If you go into the outer boroughs of some bigger cities... I was in Philadelphia recently. You drive past drug company, hospital, drug company, hospital. You're like, oh man, I mean, it's a titanic empire that rules this country right now. Yeah, no. And I see a lot of candidates who are leaning more and more heavily into Medicare for all. And it's increasingly once again on the table as a litmus test. You see some people like Chris Van Hollen, who's now come on board. This is what voters are demanding in a lot of these primaries as well.

13:06So it's definitely like health care politics are back and the pain is so undeniable. And I think everybody sees what you see this, that this is literally unsustainable. Like, we are going to enter a place where people just, healthy people in particular, and younger people in particular, are just like, it does not make sense for me to pay this. Oh, I've said it. If I didn't have a kid, it does not make sense for me to pay this. No chance. And then once they exit, then guess what? The prices go up even more because they're helping to subsidize the, you know, typically older, sicker populations. And that's how you end up in this death spiral.

13:37So these little, you know, quote unquote innovation or choice accounts, whatever that is, is not going to fix the absolute disastrous mess. And there are things that, you know, especially when Trump is less sort of like ideologically committed to, we must have a free market solution. There are things that Republicans could suggest that would be better. Like they should, in my opinion, they should get on board with a public option. I mean, that still is like market-based if that's what you're hung up on. But I think since that has the taint of like Joe Biden talked about it, they will never get on board with that.

14:09But, you know, there are things you could do, in my opinion, that would be inferior to Medicare for All, but would be short of that. But they're just, they haven't thought about it. They are so ideologically and partisan driven that they're just hoping everybody forgets about this conversation and moves on to something else is basically their plan. Yep, that's right. Welcome to the A Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. have both been assassinated and Black America is at a breaking point. rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale.

14:43In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

15:29What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

16:05It's about engineering consciousness. Mind Games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations.

16:45You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter is incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little... Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I had not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank, I hit a bad note, then I couldn't recover. And I built up this idea that music and being a musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away.

17:24Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go on to AI. This man, this latest one, this is some dark, dark stuff. Sam Altman, in a recent interview, was asked about chat GPT and whether he uses it to raise his baby. Let's take a listen. And do you use ChatGPT when raising your baby? I do. I feel kind of bad about it because we have this genius level at everything, intelligence, sitting there waiting to unravel the mysteries of humanity. And I'm like, why does my kid stop dropping his pizza on the floor and laughing?

18:07So I feel like I'm not asking a good enough question. But it is, I don't, I cannot imagine having gone through that, like figuring out how to raise a newborn without ChatGPT. clearly people did it for a long time. No problem. Yes. But yeah, we did it for a long time. We don't need chat GPT actually. In fact, I'll tell you a story because I I've done this. You will try to try to ask it some sort of developmental question routinely gets things wrong. Ask it to calculate medicinal dosage. The math is totally wrong. I've literally happened to me actually. Definitely do not rely on chat GPT for what sort of medicine amount you should give them.

18:45Here's my theory. They're good at math, right? I go, X weight, all of this, put it in, dead wrong. The only reason I know this is I go, ugh, this isn't right. And so then I went, I had to go to the charts or whatever, a little bit more research. What if somebody had done that? Imagine if somebody had done that. This is my one time just thinking, hey, it's good at math, at the very least we can trust math. Now imagine trying to use it for developmental purposes or any other, this is dangerous. Now, beyond even just saying, like in my example, I'm just trying to use it for math, but imagine outsourcing, like genuine advice and, you know, getting tips or something, like how to introduce solids.

19:30What if Chachi PT relies on, you can tell I'm drawing from my own life, right? How to introduce a, there's a lot of different schools of thought, right? There's a lot of, what if it says you should do it this way? What if it's the wrong way? Actually, there is no right or wrong way. The point is, it should be up to you, and you should go and do some research, read some books. There's baby weeding. There's pure, I mean, there's all these different schools of thought, right? And there's no way it could ever capture the reality of what that is like. And it's truly, in my opinion, it's so dystopian because it is outsourcing, like the individuality.

20:05And I mean, it's not even just like the cool part about getting to be a parent, making these decisions, but also the human part of it of like asking your mother or your friends or your family and trying to crowdsource that all together. And then your doctor, anybody to make an informed decision instead of outsourcing your decision making. And that's what's happening at scale. And that's why I really worry. If you're in college and you're 100 % used to outsourcing everything to ChatGPT, then in 10 years from now, when you're having a baby, it will be the most natural thing in the world to outsource that to an AI.

20:41And that is like, again, I mean, these are amoral. If you ask ChatGPT whether you should an abort and a Down syndrome baby based on cost, they'll probably tell you yes, right? Think about that. There's nobody who, there's nothing programmed within these things to really give you any morals. Especially if you set the parameters. And then with psychosis, the most recent chat GPT is you can decide its personality on how, right? So now it's like, I want a persnickety and a laughable chat GPT. I want the default chat GPT. Well, which one's going to give you different advice on a kid? I know I sound pedantic, but like this stuff is real.

21:21And when the CEO is out here recommending its usage, then that should come with liability. What do doctors and all of them tell you? Never believe everything that you read on the internet. And here this guy is like, oh, I use it to raise my own bank. I mean, these are wildly powerful. They want you to, by the way, so that they can sell you baby products inside of the chat. Go, well, here's our favorite baby formula based on what you've recommended. Go ahead and buy it here in the ChatGPT app. I mean, can you imagine anything more dystopian, man? And Google already does this to a limited extent, but this is way worse.

21:49And yeah, the errors, that's one thing. That's like an acute, like, you know, you could actually end up receiving advice that's genuinely dangerous. But to me, the most more dystopian part is just the assault on our humanity. You know, I mean, parenting is like such a just sort of essential, beautiful, like the essence of being human, right? The essence of the project of humanity. And when you say something like, I can't even imagine raising a newborn without chat GPT. I don't know. I mean, this is what I worry about on a sort of like philosophical level with these products in general. How much of our humanity is being like sucked up and colonized?

22:30how much of our mind share is being sucked up and colonized by these products where, yeah, instead of going to your like, let me call mom and see what she said, you know, when when I was a baby, like, how did this go for her? Instead, you're asking this robot. And that's, you know, it's one small example, but it takes you that much further away from like the human connections that we already are losing. Thanks again to these like tech oligarchs and their their social media experiments. The other thing about it that it made me think of is a lot of these guys that developed, Sam Altman didn't develop a social media product, but like a Mark Zuckerberg or whatever.

23:03A lot of these guys, if you ask them about their kids and their social media use. Oh, yeah, they don't use it. They are very careful about screen time for their own kids, even as they are developing products that are designed with, you know, millions and millions of dollars to make them as addictive as possible for your kids. And so it's interesting to me that with this, because they are such almost like religious believers. I mean, truly, I think religious is the right word to use around what these guys think about AI and its promise and what it's going to be. They think they're inventing God in a machine.

23:39That's what they think. They have this religious devotion to it where it has – they do incorporate it all the way into their lives including in something as essential and something so important as raising your baby from a young age. So I thought that was an interesting sort of revelation too about how he is thinking about his own product. 100 percent. And I just think he's like, oh, we have the grand super intelligence elements. You know, anybody who, if you're trying to do this, intelligence is not really, you know, there's no intelligent way, like I said, necessarily. The only intelligence that you can use is to think about it, be intentional, and then actually look at your specific set of circumstances.

24:21Just my opinion. But this also translates now to the Pentagon, where Pete Hegseth has now rolled out Google's Gemini AI into the hands of every American service member and encouraging them to use it. Let's take a listen. The future of American warfare is here, and it's spelled AI. As technologies advance, so do our adversaries. But here at the War Department, we are not sitting idly by. Under the leadership of President Trump, America will lead the charge on this technological transformation by revolutionizing the way we win. And that's why today we are unleashing GenAI.mil. This platform puts the world's most powerful frontier AI models, starting with Google Gemini, directly into the hands of every American warrior.

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25:14At the click of a button, AI models on Gen.AI can be utilized to conduct deep research, format documents, and even analyze video or imagery at unprecedented speed. Building on the great work of Undersecretary Emile Michael and his team, we will continue to aggressively field the world's best technology to make our fighting force more lethal than ever before. And all of it is American made. The possibilities with AI are endless. So you can see from there. I mean, what is mystifying to me is why they're going so hard at promoting said gen AI. They have posters all over the Pentagon encouraging individual soldiers and others to use it at their routine tasks.

25:59I mean, I just gave an example about how it chat GPT or failed at math room, which, by the way, is its most basic function, no? That's what you should rely on. If you rely on computers for anything, asking an advice or any of that is absolutely stupid, even at the current form. But you should maybe rely on it for math. Now, they're relying on it for math and potential errors and reasoning fallacies or logical problems in the most high-stakes environment. Like what about weapons planning, manufacturing, ammunition? I can't even get ChatGPT, like I said, to calculate basic dosage instructions properly.

26:38How are they going to use multi-complex processes by rolling it into the critical supply chain and others to calculate, let's say, how many weapons that they need here or there without double checking? Look, maybe that's even a, quote, good use. Do we really have confidence that they have put in guardrails? even security, cybersecurity, to make sure that nobody is hacking into it. And then to what end is this like AI military thing even happening? I mean, look, the Terminator and all of that is science fiction, but there is an element to this when we're becoming obsessed with autonomous drones and AI and putting it together, like the vast amount of power, considering how, I mean, look, Israel used it all the time.

27:22We covered a couple of segments on this, those like autonomous drones and AI training ground. like how are we going, you know, the future of warfare, they're obsessed with marrying these two types of things. Will that be used against us? Is that part of the plan? How do you, what, you know, what do you have programmed inside of that to make sure it's never going to happen? I just don't think any of these questions were asked at all. Yeah. At all. They're just like, yep, everybody use it and let's just see what happens. Completely. It's not, it's dangerous. Completely. And that's this whole administration's approach to AI is like, let's just push as hard as we possibly can.

27:53Let's just roll it off, out, off to the races. What are the consequences? We don't really know, but we're like hoping and praying it's going to be great and it's going to be amazing. And then, you know, to see that applied specifically at the Department of War, where you have all these like ethical and accuracy questions. And again, like the more removed the human being and their natural revulsion to killing other human beings, the more removed they are from that process. You know, the easier it becomes to commit atrocities and barbarism. I mean, you can even, you know, if you think about the initial boat strike, right, where they had to do the double tap strike.

28:29Okay, so you have the initial strike. They see that there's the two survivors and then over 40 minutes they watch them, like, struggling for their lives and they decide to kill them with the second strike. You know, if you had had to be, like, that guy boarding the ship and actually shooting him in the head with a pistol or whatever, I don't think they would have made the same decision. Like, if you had to be that up close and personal with the killing, it would have been much clearer to them, like, of course this is wrong. These are shipwrecked individuals. Like, this is the textbook definition of what you don't, what is utterly dishonorable and atrocious to do in wartime.

29:03So the more you get removed from that basic humanity, the more dystopian it becomes. I mean, there's a reason why sci-fi writers reach for these utterly dystopian scenarios. And now they are, we are really at the precipice of them being easily realizable. Not to mention, you know, we already have all these issues with AI and deceptive behavior and all these sorts of things that are unaccounted for. They think they patch it up, but they're not really sure. I don't know. We've seen we've also gotten a glimpse of what AI unleashed on the battlefield looks like in Gaza, which has been a test case for a lot of these things where they generated all of these targets, did not do any check whether these were legitimate targets, didn't really care and just went out and mass murdered people or were able to track people down to their homes so that they would be able to inflict more casualties among low-level soldiers and their families.

29:51So I think we've already got examples of the dystopian direction that this is all heading. And Sagar, maybe you can explain this next one, but as a pivot from their original idea was sort of like framed in this very like altruistic way. Like we're going to create an LLM. It's going to be completely open source. This is sort of like, you know, idealistic anarchist type approach to development. So the theory, but it wasn't altruistic. They sold it that way. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's how they sold it. Right. So the reason they did that is because they wanted other people to use their models so that people would stack and that they would own the tech while they continued.

30:27Now, what they've decided to do, let's put the next one, please, on the screen, D3, is they're explicitly pivoting away from open source, specifically into a money-making AI model. Zuckerberg, quote, months into building the priciest teams in technology history, is getting personally involved and pivoting the company's focus to an AI model it can make money off of. One new model, codenamed Avocado, is expected to debut next spring, will be launched as a closed model, one that will be tightly controlled and that Meta will sell access to. The move, which aligns with rivals Google and OpenAI do with their models, would mark the biggest departure from the open source strategy that Meta has now touted for years, dramatically shifted earlier this year after the company released Llama for an open source model that disappointed Silicon Valley and Zuckerberg.

31:13Now, Zuckerberg now spends much of his time and energy working closely with new hires in a group called TBD Labs, and it is using, quote, several third-party models to train the process for Avocado, distilling all of its rival models down, and then training off of that. So what that means is that he's basically going in the same direction as everybody else, as Google, as open AI and abandoning even the pretense of open source. We just want to highlight this because the industry is still moving all in a completely profit-driven direction and one that abandons any original claims about how they're going to cure cancer.

31:49Now, it's just all about making money. It's all about enterprise making money. That's it. And it comes at a cost. Let's put the next one up on the screen. It's about data centers from The Lever. They show, quote, data center boom risks blackouts. According to a new watchdog report, data center construction should be put on hold until grid operators can ensure reliability, a regional energy monitor has argued. And that fits with what I had showed everybody in our last show about the expected amount of data center power compared to the amount of market that or the amount of power coming online by 2030.

32:24Well, and they focus in particular in what they describe. They say the independent watchdog for the country's largest power grid operator has issued a regulatory grenade asking the federal government to intervene amid PJM interconnections plans to power data centers. It knows it does not have the capacity for despite acknowledging the heightened risk of blackouts. This comes as PJM has seen windfall profits from shouldering energy draining data centers at a multi-billion dollar cost to consumers. So if you guys recall the charts that we put up before that showed the different grid regions across the country.

32:56The one that was under the most strain is actually the one right here, and it's called PJMs, what that regional grid is called. It services some roughly, I think, 13 different states or parts of 13 different states. It's like Virginia in the Mid-Atlantic, out to the Midwest, I think Michigan, parts of Kentucky, et cetera. So that's kind of the region. And no surprise that this is the area that is under the most strain right now because Virginia is the epicenter of this mass data center boom. I mean, if you drive out towards Dulles, if you even go out towards where I live in the rural areas, these things are popping up everywhere.

33:33And they have not built out the capacity to ensure that, number one, I mean, the prices are going up. Number two, that there are not going to be active blackouts. We are very close to that sort of a possibility. And of course, if there's going to be a choice about whether it's ordinary consumers who are getting the power or whether it's these giant data centers with their corporate titans who have funneled millions of dollars into the local politicians' campaign coffers. Guess who's going to be chosen there? So this warning is really quite dire and extraordinary, given that we are early in this data center build-out and already we are straining the grid capacity that we have existing.

34:12And of course, there's nothing, anything remotely approaching like a build out that would be sufficient to deal with all of this. Exactly. And all right. Yeah. I mean, you just put it all together. Oh, final thing. I had to put this one. D5. Oh, yeah. This is an interesting one. So this is new for the Washington Post. Their new consumer audio offering, your personalized podcast, AI podcast only available in the podcast app. App users will be able to shape their own briefing, select their topics, select their lengths, pick their hosts, and then soon even ask questions using our Ask the Post AI technology.

34:47So don't need anybody doing it. Don't need anybody doing the research. It'll just AI all of it for you. And soon you won't even have to listen to a show like ours. You can just build your own. So, I mean, personally, kind of hoping it fails, right, out of selfish reasons. I think it misunderstands why people listen to a podcast in the first place. I don't think people want to do a lot of their own work. That's kind of what you pay editorial for, right, is to curate what other people. That's kind of our offering, if you will. But who knows? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Look, it's not just about us because it's about humanity itself.

35:21Without any of that, are you really getting what you need from the news? Yeah, that's my question. I'm hoping that people are biased towards people. I think so. I'm not sure. I mean, so much of, and this is like a double-edged sword, but so much of the podcast, YouTube space is like these parasocial relationships. We're not just about the specific stories and content that are chosen, but it's also about like the way I feel about this person, whether I trust them, whether I like them, whether I find them like entertaining to spend some of my time with. And so I am still hopeful that there is a bias, that people have a bias towards other people, that they want other people to be behind the art that they consume.

36:05They want to feel like there is humanity embedded in the like experiences that they're having and the you know the content that they are consuming but i don't know if that's true or not i guess we're gonna find out welcome to the a building i'm hans charles i'm menelik lamuba it's 1969 malcolm x and martin luther king jr have both been assassinated and black america was out of breaking point rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale in atlanta georgia at martin's alma mater Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr.

36:43and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution, I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

37:27When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness. Mind Games is the story of NLP. its crazy cast of disciples, and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits.

38:06He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter's incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little...

38:45Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I've not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank. I hit a bad note, then I couldn't kind of recover. And I built up this idea that music and being a musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's get to Epstein. some great new reporting over from DropSite.

39:26Let's go ahead and put this up here on the screen. This is one of the longtime major questions of Jeffrey Epstein, is how did he get all of this money? All roads seem to trace back to Les Wexner, the victorious secret seclusive billionaire who is very pro-Israel. Now, we have learned from DropSite and from many of the emails, which I was able to read also some of myself, the primary source documents, is specifically about how he ran Leslie Wexner's pro-Israel philanthropy machine much more than Les Wexner and the philanthropy later on claims. So let me explain a little bit of that. Basically, what they're able to report is that after his death and what we learn is that the Wexner Foundation, which is a longtime supporter of Zionist politics and including paying Ayyud Barak millions of dollars, the former prime minister of Israel, to author two reports, one of which he never even finished, was directed largely by Epstein in such a way that they were asking Epstein directly, or Wexner and the foundation were saying directly, quote, ask Jeffrey about how to spend the money.

40:36Remember, there's all these questions from Epstein himself and his relationship with Wexner. Wexner signed power of attorney over him to manage his money. He gifted the famous mansion to him. Why would somebody who is ultra wealthy give such power over their own estate and billions of dollars over to their acquaintance? This is one of the ultimate mysteries. You can have your own theories. I certainly do. But nothing has ever really been confirmed on the story. I think the central part of it, though, is that the emails reveal how central he was to dispersing money from Leslie Wexner's charity, many on behalf of Zionists and pro-Israel causes, and to the point where you can actually see that Wexner's claims later on about how what Les Wexner had claimed, he was just a whiz with money, that he had nothing on me, and that it was a very normal relationship, and he severed his ties.

41:31And he also claimed that his control over the foundation wasn't nearly as total as what we now know. And so I encourage everybody to go and read this report. Because it shows you very, very clearly how much control he actually had over the foundation, dispersing these millions to a former Israeli prime minister, and the level of trust that Wexner still had with Epstein for many, many years after the relationship started in the 1990s. Yeah, I mean, what you gather from these emails is that Wexner truly did just hand over his entire financial life. It's crazy. To Epstein. And both in terms of his personal money, how much was going to go to the foundation from his personal money, and then how much, what was going to be dispersed and to whom.

42:13And so it's everything from the investments to the various pro-Israel charities that were going to receive significant donations. This foundation was one of the largest and most prolific donors to Zionist causes in the entire United States. So they were heavyweights in this space. And it was all Jeffrey, I shouldn't say all, but it was largely, it appears from these emails, largely Jeffrey Epstein. who is directing that funding and picking the charities to where that money was going to go. This is completely contrary to how, of course, Wexner portrayed their relationship and completely contrary to how the foundation portrayed their relationship where they said, oh, this guy, we barely had anything to do with him.

42:57And after his conviction, he was out. We were done. We had absolutely no influence from him whatsoever. That was all just dramatically untrue based on these emails. So this is one incredibly important piece of the puzzle because the amount of money that Epstein was getting just from this one relationship was incredibly sizable and funded a significant part of his lifestyle. But we also got this very important reporting again from Bloomberg, which we've been talking about, Jason Leopold, he's been doing great work with these emails as well about how his involvement with Wall Street, you know, didn't really skip a beat after his conviction.

43:40You know, they took a look at emails of all these, you know, banker types, hedge fund types messaging him. Oh, I'm sorry about your conviction. You'll be fine. You know, hey, how about you want to invest in this? You want to invest in that? And what you get from this one, Sagar, is really a sense that, you know, as long as he had money, they didn't really give a shit. You know, as long as he had money to invest, that they could that they could play with and be involved in making money, then they were happy to have his his involvement. And the other thing that really comes out of this piece is just what a son of a bitch that he was.

44:12Oh, yeah. Like, yes, like in these different transactions, playing both sides, lying to both sides, pretending like I'm going to vote on your side in this particular dispute with the other one pretending he's going to vote on that side. Then he picks his side. Then afterwards, He sues everyone involved. I mean, just absolutely, like, ruthlessly nefarious, but in a way that obviously, you know, worked for him in terms of netting him lots of cash. Absolutely. You know, I'm glad. So we had access to those emails, but Bloomberg was the better, you know, outlet to do it because they could get to all of the Wall Street connections.

44:44And, you know, it's hard to decipher. I'm not a financier. Like, I don't fully understand all of it. But they just show you and piece together the network of how it existed at that time. How even as he's under investigation, they don't care. They're still willing to do business with you. And remember, all of this continued even after he pled guilty and was a registered sex offender. They continued to take his businesses, hundreds of millions. And you have very, very high level Wall Street financiers who are all embroiled in this. You have Leon Black. You have all of these others paying him personally$100,$150 million.

45:17You got a billion dollars in suspicious activity reports that continue to flow through all of the banks and the Treasury Department. that are filed after his death, over a billion, again, wired to whom? Wired for what? Wired where? For what purpose? To which country? I mean, all of this points to a vast array of, and I've discussed with Ryan, at this point, to say he was not, at the very least, an international financier with connections to multiple intelligence agencies, it's just not factual. It's not factual. That was his core. His job was to move money around. That's what he was the ultimate expert at it.

45:53This proves it. Yeah, as you said, he was also extremely, like, bitchy in his emails, being like, I'll threaten you, I'll blackmail you, you know, basically kind of hinting at various problems for people. If they didn't continue to do business with him, that was very useful to the Cote d 'Ivoire or Mongolia, the Israeli government, potentially the US, Russia. I mean, who knows? He was everybody. He literally was a hatchet man. And yes, he also had his peccadilloes, I guess, which were enabled, look past, and part of the entire story. And that's why when all of this keeps coming together, you see that Leslie Wexner, he didn't, you know, he didn't cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein.

46:31He kind of knew what was going on as the emails that they report what was happening. He said, always be careful. Oh yeah. Let's put each two up on the screen because we do have that image because I think this, I mean, this tells you everything right here. So this is Les Wexner. You start at the bottom. Rights to Epstein. Abigail told me the result. And we're referring here to that quote unquote sweetheart deal. No, definitely sweetheart deal. All I can say is I feel sorry. You violated your own number one rule. Always be careful. And then Epstein replies, no excuse. So, I mean, does that tell you that he knew what was going on?

47:06And he, you know, you can infer. Yeah, you can you can infer some things. And And certainly there was no like, this is disgusting. I can't believe I will never be associated with you again. No, none of that. Just like, I'm sorry. I feel bad for you. I guess you weren't careful enough, you know, in the things that you were doing. Yep, exactly right. All right, we got Juan David Rojas standing by to talk Miami. Let's get to it. So we had some pretty interesting election results down in Miami where Democrats were able to flip the mayoral race, which has a lot of interesting potential political dynamics.

47:37We have the perfect person to break all of this down for us. Juan David Rojas is a columnist for Compaq Magazine. He's got a new piece up there about exactly this. You can put that up on the screen. The headline is How the GOP Lost Miami. And he is also the author of the fantastic substack, Social Democracy with Populist Characteristics. Exactly our kind of guy. Great to see you, Juan. Good to see you, dude. Thanks for having me back on, guys. Okay, so how did the GOP lose Miami? Well, there's, you know, like any election, there's both local and national dynamics. On the one hand, oh, wow, I was actually really impressed just to see Miami voters rebuke the city establishment, which is extraordinarily corrupt, reaching new heights under the current administration of Francis Suarez.

48:24Primer, for those who aren't familiar, actually, I think you guys covered this back when in 2021. He, like during the 2021 July protest in Cuba, like got on top of a car or like a van and called for airstrikes on Cuba. Oh, God. You know, he's this like oligarch bro tech guy. I once saw him at like an event in Miami and he said, oh, even my dad doesn't understand crypto. And he's a genius. He went to Harvard. So anyway. But he really strongly embraced crypto. Yeah. And embraced Miami as this like, you know, I mean, a Miami part of why I think this is interesting nationally is because Miami has become the symbol of like the Republican realignment with Latinos.

49:06And also you had all of these like Republican elites and tech guys who were setting up shop there as well. So, you know, that's part of what makes this really noteworthy from a national perspective. Totally, totally. Yeah. I mean, the city had been growing exponentially. But in recent years, you know, all the people that have come to Florida and especially South Florida, a lot of people are leaving now because the cost of living has gotten so out of control. I mean, by some metrics, the Miami metro area is the most unaffordable in the country. Wow. like average rent has like skyrocketed like 80 percent since the pandemic so it's it's a it's really grim and um and yeah with Suarez like just cartoonish levels of corruption I mean really you can barely even say that he's mayor he's spent most of his time abroad lobbying on behalf of Saudi Arabia and he's been an office since 2017 so after the Khashoggi killing uh he's done a lot PR for the kingdom to kind of rehabilitate them and actually he's currently under consideration reportedly uh as next ambassador to Saudi Arabia oh my god great perfect there's that and then the the national aspect which is that you know Miami is a city which is like more than 70 percent uh Latino mostly Cuban American but you know there's also South Americans and uh Latinos of Caribbean descent etc Central America even Mexicans as well uh and uh well uh yeah latinos are like the rest of the country are really unhappy about the economy if anything things have gotten worse under trump but also latinos are you know obviously more disproportionately affected by uh the administration's immigration policies which a lot of people down here especially it's kind of new to them the cuban americans especially because they kind of got a pass by authorities and especially state authorities for uh decades for lots of reasons Yeah, wet foot, dry foot and all that.

50:58They had all of their special little carve outs there just for themselves. Can you break down some of the map results on F1? I'm just curious if there was any regional stuff that you can point out to us specifically in the mayoral runoff election and where some bigger swings happen that we should take note of maybe in terms of demographics. Yeah, that's a great question. So that western part of the city is more Latino, especially Cuban-American. That's like Little Havana. The northern part of the city is more Haitian, so that makes perfect sense. Miami's incredibly segregated, including the county, so a lot of these enclaves are disproportionately one kind of immigrant community.

51:42But even still, yeah, like I said, like 70 % of the city is Latino. there were these huge swings, like 20-point swings of Latinos towards the Democrats. And another thing, the cope from Republicans is that, oh, turnout was really low. It was like 21%, which, yeah, sure, is really low. But for a mayor election, and especially a mayor election in Miami, this is pretty good. Like, it's about 30 % more than, like, the previous three or four elections. To give an idea, yeah, Suarez, who won two times, he got, like, 70 % of the vote, and turnout was, like, 15%. So it's still pretty significant. And again, Higgins, yeah, she's the first Democrat to win in like at least two decades.

52:26And the first non-Cuban to win. It's funny. You know, she is a Democrat. And like the Cubans would call her La Gringa. You know, talk about the Republicans, but talk about, you know, all the talking points for Republicans. We're losing our country. Well, look at that. It's the Democrat. That's the American. It's a shame. It's a shame to see a white lady be elected by Cubans, you know. So you write in your piece, you say the White House's ongoing regime change efforts in Venezuela can be read in part as an attempt to retain the loyalty of these disaffected supporters. You go on to say it's likely to work to an extent.

53:00Republicans should be able to keep a critical mass of Florida Latinos and especially Cuban Americans in the fold in the 2026 midterms. Just expand on that, especially since we just had the news about this, which we covered earlier in the show. But I'm interested in your thoughts on as well that we seize this massive oil tanker. Yeah, I don't think that's a coincidence. I mean, it came the day after the election. So just for context, Venezuela, for decades since Chavez came into power in 1999, has sent billions in oil to Cuba. And that's really largely how the regime has stayed afloat for a long time.

53:37And they're still sending a lot of oil, even though oil production in Venezuela has cratered. So that's a big talking point down here among the Cuban-Americans. They'll say, ah, the oil that they're sending and also Mexico in recent years has been sending them some oil. So they've wanted to crack down on that. So, yeah, I mean, more broadly, like the strikes in the Caribbean and the regime change efforts in Venezuela, like people down here are extremely, we talked about this before, neoconservative. especially the Cuban Americans, Nicaraguans, and Venezuela. Cuban Americans get voted by like around 70 percent for Trump and Venezuelans actually was surprised it was around like 50 something percent Democrats did better than I expected couldn't find anything on Nicaraguans but so you know they believe in like this global cabal of communism and on a regional level globally it's like you know Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba regionally it's the Troika of terror Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and so their view is that like if one of these especially like the biggest one Venezuela or Cuba go down then like like kind of reverse domino theory the rest will go down with them so um in the in his first term uh a lot of Latino South Floridians were really happy with Trump the Guaido stuff in 2019 uh etc and you talk to Venezuelans and Cubans now and they might say like yeah I mean You know, honestly, this deportation stuff and immigration stuff has gone too far.

55:12But they're really happy with the foreign policy, especially Rubio as Secretary of State. Of course, yeah, former senator. They're a great representative. And so, you know, like you said, there's national characteristics. There's local stuff that is all going on. Nobody's expecting Florida to become a blue state anytime soon. But in general, what should we look for? Like we've got the Florida GOP primary going on right now, Fishback, Byron Donalds. You've still got DeSantis there at the top. Anything that you've got your eye on for our audience? Yeah. So, yeah, I said this in the piece. It's hard to know.

55:47And this is the given idea about how contradictory things are down here. So on one level, there was a lot of consternation about the attempts to build Trump's presidential library in Miami. And the thing is, the land is owned by Miami-Dade College. So the city, there's been a lot of shady dealings about them trying to give the land away for free. And there's fears that it would be one thing if it was just the library. But there's fears that they'll want to build a library slash hotel and casino, which would be really grotesque. There's been a lot of local opposition towards that. At the same time, and going back to what we were just talking about, if you guys are familiar with the Miami suburb of Hialeah, which is like 90 % Cuban American, they just like inaugurated a 12-foot statue, bronze statue of Trump, Trump the fighter, it's called.

56:44So it's there's a funny mix of things down here. Yeah, there is on the one hand, like consternation over like the immigration policies. On the other hand, they love the regime change stuff. I think given these results from Higgins, it's possible. I mean, I think there's no chance in hell that Democrats really will be that successful in Florida. uh i mean uh like val demings in 2022 was about as good a candidate i think as democrats could have a few years ago and they still got killed yeah now the environment has changed a lot so it could be that maybe democrats managed to make some game like moderate gains because of the fact that maybe some uh neoconservative latinos are like you know what we love trump But maybe we don't want to support Republicans on domestic issues.

57:38We'll stay home. Hard to know. We'll have to see. And how extractable do you think any of this is? Because the South Florida Latino community is fairly unique in terms of the American context. But look at the mayoral results. It's roughly a 20-point shift in the direction of Democrats. Kamala did win Miami, but it was by less than a point. It was basically tied. It was very, very close. And then Higgins is able to win by, what, 19? So huge shift, huge overperformance for Democrats in Miami. How much can we extrapolate that to other Latino communities and other communities in general across the country?

58:15Yeah, I would say that outside of Florida and especially South Florida, for instance, there are differences within the state. Orlando is much more disproportionately Puerto Rican, which tend to swing more towards Democrats, though Trump did perform pretty well with them in 2024. I would say that elsewhere in the country, Republicans are going to get are going to get killed with Latinos. I mean, we already saw that in New Jersey and in Virginia. Like, I mean, unless the economy improves or they decide to start doing things differently with immigration, and that's extremely unlikely. A lot of Latinos here, but also especially in border states, and I guess you could call Florida a border state as well.

58:58like they were not happy with the situation under Biden. You know, a lot of people would think, oh, you know, like there's millions of people now jumping the line defrauding the asylum system. But that's one thing. Another thing is that like, oh, this has gone too far. They're deporting people without process. They're deporting people to maximum security prisons in Africa from countries they don't belong to. There has to be a more sensible middle ground. And I think that doesn't even just apply to Latinos, but just Americans as a whole. Very interesting, man. Agreed. Thank you as always, Juan.

59:30We appreciate your analysis. Good to see you, bro. Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate you. Friday show tomorrow. See you all then. 1969. Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in Black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. Listen to The A-Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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