12/3/25: Trump Demands Somalis Out Of US, Hillary Complains About Pro-Palestine TikTok, UK PM Tries To Silence Emily

28:44The following morning, I'm going through San Francisco airport. I was wearing a Malaysian batik, which is a noble dress from Malaysia that Americans mistook for a disco shirt. I don't know why, but in any case, I go through the check-in. I go through security. I look up D38, the gate to go to Tampa to give another lecture. A gentleman approaches me and says, excuse me, are you Sami Hamdi? I said, yes. He said, sir, I'm here to inform you that your visa has been revoked. And it was revoked two days ago. I said to him, nobody told me my visa was even under review. What do you mean it's been revoked?

29:16He said, sir, here is the memo from the State Department. I read it. It doesn't state any reason. It just says section this article, this, we have the right to revoke it. I said, did they give you a reason? He said, sir, they just told me to wait for you here and to pick you up. I said, okay, I was supposed to go to London on 2nd of November, six flights a day from San Francisco. I'll just book a flight now and just go to the gate for London. That's not how this works, he said to me. Then six agents appeared out of nowhere. They escorted me out of San Francisco airport. A black car with tinted windows was waiting for me.

29:48I asked to call a lawyer. They refused. And then when I told them, there's no way I'm getting in the car. I'm a British citizen. I'm not some random guy you find on the street. One of them said, relented, said, okay, you got one minute. I called a lawyer who's in civil liberties. And then the lady behind me, when I asked to call my family, one of the agents, pushes me against the car. That's enough. You're under arrest now. Cups me. And they take me on a six hour ordeal in the back of a van to the middle of nowhere, someplace McFarland. And they put me in a facility and I stayed there 18 days.

30:15And thanks to two federal judges who indicated that there were serious breaches of freedom of speech and therefore my case should be expedited, the DHS lawyer in private, I know what they were saying publicly, but certainly in private, they sort of said, listen, can we just clear this up, go home and let the storm pass and we'll clear the record in that regard. But it was quite the experience in that regard. But the final thing I'll say here is before I hand back over is I know a lot of people focused on what happened to me, but I think it should be placed in the broader context, Ryan, in the sense that I think that the extreme Israeli lobby, bear in mind, I was not the first person they targeted.

30:50They actually went after American citizens first to curtail the freedom of speech in terms of what they can say about Israel. You'll remember, Ryan, they went after American students who were with the American Muslims for Palestine. They went after them in Michigan. And the judge ruled that the case should be dismissed. Then they went after American citizens, telling them freedom of speech. Oh, yeah, we had one of those American citizens on this program, actually. That's right. Exactly. And they went in Nevada. The judge said, this is absolute nonsense. We have freedom of speech in this country.

31:15Then the extreme Israeli lobby said, OK, we're struggling to go after American citizens. Let's go after naturalized citizens. So they targeted Mehdi Hassan and some of these others. And they failed. Then they said, OK, let's go after green card holders. We need to restrict the rights of ordinary Americans to prevent them from accessing truth. They went after Mahmoud Khalil. They found that it's much more difficult. The judges ruled he shouldn't be deported. His case is still in limbo, but he hasn't been deported yet. Then they said, let's go after student visas. They went after Romaysa, Ozturk, Mohsen Mahdouin, other students.

31:44Let's scare students like Lika Kurdia from preventing them from speaking out. And they failed. The judges ruled they should be released. Then they thought, this is really bad. the Constitution is against us. We're unable to restrict American freedoms. We're unable to push our way and prevent this truth from penetrating the filters that we put on the flow of information in America. Then they thought there's a random UK guy from London touring the United States. Let's go off the B1, B2 visa and we'll take that as a victory instead. And thankfully they failed. In the end, I was able to go home free, 18 days in ICE, which was a bit rough, to be honest.

32:18But But thankfully, I'm home and I consider it a win. Let's take a look at the video Laura Loomer posted, and I think this was 2023, but also Homeland Security posted this video. We'll play it in full here so that people can see what's in question. Netanyahu did not envisage that for the first time since 1948, the Palestinians would actually retake land back from the Israelis. Netanyahu did not envisage that for the first time since 1948 the Palestinians would be able to hold those territories for more than 72 hours. We are pitying the people who brought a huge victory since 1948. Don't pity them.

32:58They don't want your pity. Celebrate the victory. Allah has shown the world that no normalization can erase the Palestinian cause. When everybody thought it was finish, it's roaring. How many of you feel it in your hearts when you got the news that it happened? How many of you felt the euphoria? Allah, how many of you felt it? Why did you feel it? Because the despair vanished. You said this Umar is alive. Okay, so Sami, obviously, speech questions, I just want to put aside for a second, a question that a lot of people might have is what was the huge victory that people should be celebrating and then feeling euphoria about on October 7th or after October 7th?

33:41Sure. I'm thinking that anybody who watches the full lecture will see that the buildup to it makes it abundantly clear. The sense that normalization was taking place over the heads of the Palestinians. People were warning that you have to engage the Palestinians in any peace talks. And now it's abundantly clear after everything that has happened that the Palestinians are relevant and that they must be included in peace talks, celebrate the victory that people are talking about the Palestinians again, and that people are no longer steamrolling them in any talks and discussions about their particular future, which is why this video was inadmissible in court, because it's been stitched out of the wider context, and even the Department of Homeland Security found that it could not be submitted.

34:18And the irony is that one week later, BBC would stitch a video of one of Donald Trump's speeches, and a BBC director would end up resigning as well. I think anybody who watches the full lecture sees abundantly clear what I was talking about, and I don't think something from memory that is Islamophobic and targets all Muslim representatives and anybody who talks as a Muslim, I don't think that any court would take anything they say seriously, which is why not even many of the mainstream media manage to pick it up anyway. And I do want to emphasize this particular point, that nothing of what was being said publicly ever made it into a charge sheet or was even mentioned privately.

34:51In fact, on the Wednesday, so 11 days after I was in, the lawyer for the Department of Homeland Security went to the federal court and said, you have no jurisdiction to assess the right of freedom of speech for Sami Hamdi because he's a foreign alien. The judge ruled that not only do they have jurisdiction, but in the words of the judge, we believe there are serious signs that his freedom of speech has been infringed. The following day, the law, the Department of Homeland Security appointed a specific lawyer for my case to call, email and text my lawyers and say to them, listen, can we just make this go away?

35:25We'll just, you know, clear the record. We will pull a few strings. We'll get you home, you know, and we can just forget that all of this took place. And this is the point that I'm emphasizing here in that this had nothing to do with anything that I said everything that I've said there's nothing wrong even in that clip itself it was not admissible in court the problem was how do you silence Americans from talking about what Israel is doing in Palestine how do you create a climate of fear where even somebody who comes from the US UK a journalist is frightened to talk about Palestine how do we make Americans stop spreading on TikTok what's actually happening in Palestine, something that Hillary Clinton yesterday complained about when she's talking at the Zionist Forum, something that Antony Blinken and Mitt Romney complained about when they said we need to ban TikTok and then the 50 billion purchase of TikTok.

36:11For what? And this is the point. Actually, Sammy, let me let me pause you on that real quick, because we have that clip and it's I think it's really telling. Let's roll F1 for people. That our students, smart, well-educated young people from our own country, from around the world, where were they getting their information? They were getting their information from social media, particularly TikTok. That is where they were learning about what happened on October 7th, what happened in the days, weeks, and months to follow. That's a serious problem. It's a serious problem for democracy, whether it's Israel or the United States, and it's a serious problem for our young people.

36:54And it was frankly shocking to me how little the students we were encountering, not only in this class we teach, which is a very large class, international relations about crisis decision-making, but students more generally. And that's why I mentioned the social media piece of it, because when you would try to talk to them to engage in some kind of reasonable discussion, it was very difficult because they did not know history. They had very little context. And what they were being told on social media was not just one sided. It was pure propaganda. And so when you think about how to tell Israel's story and it's important, it's not just looking internally, it's looking externally and particularly looking at young people because, you know, it's not just the usual suspects.

37:50It is a lot of young Jewish Americans who don't know the history and don't understand. I was talking to Condi Rice, and she said in an interview that I did after the 20-point plan came out, she and I were on CBS, and she said when people were chanting from the river to the sea, she would ask the students what river, what sea they didn't know. I had the same experience. A lot of the challenge is with younger people. More than 50 % of young people in America get their news from social media. So just pause on that for a second. They are seeing short form videos, some of them totally made up, some of them not at all representing what they claim to be showing.

38:48And that's where they get their information. And so that's at an event put on by Israel's largest newspaper, Israel Hayom, which is funded by Miriam Adelson. So just to underscore your point about the attempt to control the media, go ahead. But Ryan, I want to ask the viewer to listen to what she's saying. She's not just saying they were listening to TikTok. She's saying they weren't listening to us. We are the gatekeepers of information. How dare Americans go somewhere else? How dare Americans exercise their freedoms to listen to the likes of Ryan or Crystal or Sarah or the Palestinians or Muhtaz Aziza?

39:25How dare Americans actually believe that the Constitution entitles them to go to listen to information from sources other than that which we feed them? How dare they go to breaking points instead of CBS, where we've appointed Barry Weiss, in order to filter the information that goes to Americans. How dare they go and listen to Mehdi Hassan and Zetayou instead of going to listen to all of these other different outlets that we set up specifically to make sure that the Palestinian voice is never heard? And what Hillary Clinton is saying, as others have said, as one of Obama's former speechwriters has been saying consistently is, is that we need to tell the Americans how to interpret history.

40:03The lesson from the Holocaust is not that we should support the oppressed. It's that. And then she goes on one, two, three, four. The point that I'm saying here is this is not something about Sami Hamdi. It's not about the video that you played. It's not about anything to do with me whatsoever. I got caught in the crosswind. This is about should Americans be allowed to see the truth of what's happening in the world? Or should they only have the right to listen to Hillary Clinton and listen to that which Israel deems to be legitimate information that should go through? And bear in mind, when they talk about TikTok, they're also talking about breaking points.

40:36They're also talking about Zetao. They're also talking about the new media that is emerging that is no longer beholden to these filters that used to be put on the American people. And I'll finish on this point, Ryan. I went to every state in the US except New Hampshire. And I would go to different places, whether it's Fort Worth and Dallas and these other places. I cannot stress that even the American who was pro-Israel and might be hostile to the information coming out of Gaza in terms of denying the genocide, denying the slaughter, denying the pictures. Whenever they saw those graphic images, you saw Obama's former speechwriter saying, it's like I'm talking through a carnage, you know, of dead children when I'm speaking to them.

41:16The reality is that she mentions Hillary Clinton. You find even ordinary Jews and these others, American citizens, waking up to what's happening. and the tragedy of what's unfolding in America is this. It's that you're no longer talking about America first and I don't hear me in MAGA, I mean about the interest of the American citizens. The whole politics at this moment seems to be geared towards how do you control the flow of information to the ordinary American people for the sake of a foreign government? And I was not detained because I criticized the Americans, albeit I've said in the past they shouldn't be supporting the genocide that's taking place.

41:47Laura Luma came after me, not because I criticized Washington, but because I criticized Israel. Ted Cruz came after me, not because I criticized America, but because I criticized Israel. This is not the America that I think American citizens want to live in or believe in. And that's what Hillary Clinton is talking about. How do we silence these voices before the Americans wake up? Because if the Americans wake up, we get a Memdani phenomenon in New York. If the Americans wake up, we get a situation in New York where when Democrat and Republican establishment ally behind Cuomo against Memdani, the people support Memdani, Memdani wins.

42:20The fight in America has nothing to do with Sami or the like. It has to do with Israel first versus America first. And again, I don't mean MAGA America first. I mean the interest of American citizens. At this moment, it looks like it's not clear who's going to win in that regard. I got caught in the crosswind, but thankfully I came out okay. But I do hope that anybody listening to this can see the reality of what Hillary Clinton is saying. she is saying to you oh american that you have no right to exercise freedom in where you get your information from listen to us and we'll tell you it's very orwellian very 1984 very the sense of you know the news speak and all these others and that's where i think the greatest threat to america is not the muslims there's not anybody that's being targeted by this sudden upsurge in media that tucker carlson although i find it very weird that we're quoting him left right center these days but it is what it is given the changes that are taking place it does feel like an op the greatest enemy to America today is the one attacking American freedoms.

43:16And that attack seems to be coming from Tel Aviv. I did want to press on one thing you said, because I think it really underscores how important your case actually is, because it reveals how thoroughly the American people are being lied to. So I want to press on this. You said, so you saw the clip that Laura Loomer circulated along with that clip. She and other people said, this is a terrorist supporter. Uh, this is a, a Muslim Brotherhood, uh, supporter. This is somebody like training people in like digital, like terrorism or something like that. There are all these words that they used to like make speech sound very scary.

43:55Um, and what, but what you're saying is that when it came behind bars, the, our government who was sharing these Laura Loomer ideas and, and accusations, our government, who's telling the American people that they have detained a very scary person who is doing terrible things when it comes to criticism of Israel, that they didn't even attempt to make those allegations behind bars, behind the scenes. Is that right? Not only that, Ryan, not only did they make those allegations behind the scenes, not only did they not even allude to it or suggest it or even present it in any way whatsoever, the sense that my lawyers got or indeed that we got when the DHS lawyer came to talk to my lawyers, the sense was that somebody had walked into the State Department or the DHS and sort of said, guys, what idiot listened to Laura Looma?

44:49Like, what don't have happened here? Why are media coming after us with all of this attention? Who is this guy? And who even revoked his visa? And why did you guys listen to Laura Looma in doing so? And the lawyer was appointed to clean up the mess very quickly. The sense that we got was the government was almost saying, please allow us to safe face. We'll let you go home, return, let the storm pass, apply for a visa again, etc., whatnot. But let's just make this very easy. We can get you home within 48 hours. Because bear in mind, some inmates, when they agreed to go home, they still keep them there three months, and they still keep them there two months.

45:20I was expedited for two, within 48 hours, because of the urgency with which the Department of Homeland Security felt they needed to close this particular case. And this is the point that I'm making. Whatever they're telling you online, or whatever the battle is taking place on social media is not the reality of what's unfolding before you. The reality is that there is a PR battle, but privately, the government is very much aware that there is this schism that's taking place. And it's true, even within the State Department, whatever Marco Rubio says, whatever Trisha, and I'm not sure how to pronounce her surname is, whatever she's saying, there are people in the State Department and there are people in the federal courts, there are people within the government who are not happy with the way Israel first is taking over US policy.

46:02There is resistance in these particular areas, even around Donald Trump. And this is not a defense of Donald Trump at all. Like there's many stuff that, to be honest, we can say all day and criticize his policies. But even around him, there is this battle between Israel first and America first, which is why you're seeing this clash that's manifested online between Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Dave Smith and these others, and the Ted Cruises and the Dinesh D'Souza and Laura Loomer. It shows that the perception is not of a unified government that's agreed on these things. There is a battle for America that is taking place.

46:31I'm not saying one side represents America. I'm saying there is a battle for the heart of America and the preservation of the rights enshrined by the constitutions. The attack is coming from Tel Aviv. I pray that the Americans wake up quick enough before they wake up one day and find that Tel Aviv has not only constrained their freedoms, but even managed to amend their own constitution. Okay. Well, Sami, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969.

47:03Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. have both been assassinated, and Black America is at a breaking point. Rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. to be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest.

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49:53Listen to The Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of the United Kingdom, we have a wild news story at Dropsite News today. That is an adapted excerpt of a new book called The Fraud by Paul Holden. And it uses expanded reporting and documents that are also not included in the book. because the book is basically an investigation into the political operation of Sir Keir Starmer, current UK prime minister. The piece that he's writing for us today looks at a secretly funded operation that Starmer and his current chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, were running that has some implications for work that Emily has done in the past.

50:48So what they did is when Jeremy Corbyn was rising and was the head of the Labour Party, they came together and said, how are we going to undercut the support for Corbynism and elevate Starmer? And so they identified a lot of progressive media that had grown up around the kind of Corbynist rise and said, we need to undercut these folks. And so they created two organizations, and this is what he's able to report with these documents, and this is what hasn't been known before. They created an organization called Stop Funding Fake News, SFN, and another one called the Center for Countering Digital Hate.

51:40And so they presented themselves as these, they're just grassroots Britons who are concerned about fake news. and misinformation and disinformation out there. Not that they were funded by secret money from pro-Israel elements that were funneling it into the Keir Starmer political machine. That's what he can report. So this whole thing, this whole fake news scheme that they were running was not grassroots, just concerned Britons. It was a Keir Starmer machine aimed at destroying Jeremy Corbyn. So they went after a bunch of left-wing publications. They also went after, for balance and for fun, a bunch of populist right-wing news outlets as well, including Breitbart and The Federalist.

52:32And they went after them quite hard. Turns out, Emily is quite familiar with CCDH, Center for Countering Digital Hate. So tell us what your experience was with this, what we now know is a Keir Starmer machine operation, but at the time was said to be just people concerned about, you know, fake news. Yeah, well, this is, I think this actually is a really important story because it wasn't just like MAGA news organizations. Zero Hedge was also targeted at the same time as a lot of other conservatives. Now we know Breitbart. But back in 2020, Ben Collins, who I think was like the disinformation or misinformation reporter at NBC News.

53:20So this is a journalist. Basically, I'm going to read this little section from a story he published at NBC News at the time. Tattletailed to Google about a CCDH report on the Federalist comment section. So this is a quote from his NBC News story. Google blocked the Federalist from its advertising platform after the NBC News verification unit brought the project to its attention. Incredible. First of all, that you have a journalist tattletailing on another news outlets because they don't like this news outlet on another news outlets comment section to who took Google, which owns YouTube. So if you're familiar with the YouTube comments section, that's a hilarious move on Ben Collins' part.

54:07It was always so maddening that a journalist would take the CCDH report and then tattletale to a big tech company. I mean, just infuriating. And at the time, I mean, I remember the entire mainstream media cheerleading this report from Ben Collins. Yeah, get him, get him. Well, if you tattletail to Google and they shut down your advertising platform, you are out of business in 2020. There has since been sort of parallel efforts to back up. What was the effect that it had on the Federalists? So Jim Jordan came in and a couple of Republican congressmen came in and pushed back on it and it went away.

54:44It would have totally shut down the website. It destroyed the Canary, which is not the Canary is now making a comeback. But the Canary is a left wing outlet in the UK. it took the canary from a influential news outlet of 25 to 30 journalists to like one person right and they took credit for like just destroying it that way but sorry go ahead well no and i mean that's why you you've talked about this recently uh the speech protections in the united states make especially if you're a journalist can make you very patriotic uh when you look at what happens in the uk because google it was brought to google's attention that they had a clear legal problem on their hands.

55:22And also that this type of activity was going to animate Republicans on the antitrust front, which it absolutely did. Now, I would argue Google has played Trump a little bit like a fiddle over the last six months plus, or I guess what, almost a year now since he won the election and big tech has been getting all kinds of goodies from Donald Trump. But at the time, Google was freaked out because all of a sudden you had these Republicans talking about repealing Section 230 and antitrust law and all of that. And so they backed down pretty quickly. But it was still, I mean, I think really telling that a journalist was laundering a report from what we now know to be a foreign government's operation.

56:08Well, hoping to be a foreign government, foreign political party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So how does it feel to know that it was a Keir Starmer machine operation that was masquerading as this kind of good media watchdog? It's not surprising at all because we saw it from, Taibi did a lot of reporting back in the day with the Global Engagement Center and Gabe Kaminsky did a lot of this too. That was propped up by the American State Department that was putting media companies on blacklists, including the Federalists, including I think UnHerd, where I'm a columnist, got on one at one point, not a conservative media outlet at all.

56:41Places like Zero Hedge, like heterodox things that question, And heterodox outlets that question the establishment, they were all being targeted by actually also groups that were propped up by the U.S. State Department, where they were getting most of their funding from state and from other U.S. governmental or non-governmental organizations that are mostly given, where their budget mostly comes from the government. It was clearly like ideologically aligned with, say, like the Clinton wing. And it flowed out of that whole Russiagate and all that. but that's a little different than it being a straight up black ops operation run out of the starmer machine like it's it's one thing to be like these are our these are our allies and our friends and we hope that like we can weaponize them a little bit to our advantage and it's different to be like oh this is keir starmer's chief of staff it's crazy who is setting it up and operating this thing, or at least it's very heavily involved.

57:44And I think that's a good point because it's especially egregious than that you have a foreign government attempting to influence the boundaries of free speech in the United States. I'm like offended on the Federalists' behalf. We should all be. I mean, we should just all be offended as Americans. And Breitbart's behalf too. That an ally like the UK would be interfering in what is our far superior approach to free speech in the press in the United States. They have to clean up their own damn house. And yeah, we make a lot of mistakes. And the Trump administration has had some crackdowns that journalists should be uncomfortable with and are uncomfortable with.

58:20But our system is better than their system. So how dare they stick their fingers and metal into our free press? Because guess what? It's going to come out. We're going to figure it out. And dropside exists. Dropside exists. The Federalists and Breitbart, they might be SOBs, but they're our SOBs. That's right. How dare you? That's right. We will take them on. And also, why do they— Don't try to do this for us. What's your problem with Zero Hedge, right? Your problem with Zero Hedge is that they question— It was Brexit and Nigel Farage and like— Right. The problem with these organizations is that they question— It's happening with TikTok.

58:58We covered this earlier in the show with our guest. it's going to come for the left just because the uh kind of clinton like you said clinton wing controlled a lot of our institutions uh post 2017 and used them to resist trump and push back against donald trump so it was coming for the federalist and breitbart and zero hedge whatever else it's coming for the left too it's coming and it's going to came for him yeah right yeah exactly it's but that was always so myopic and gross and especially that uh like lefty journalist would participate in it was really, really disgusting. Hope we learned a lesson, though I doubt we will.

59:35I don't think I could comment from him now. You should. Now that he knows that I didn't realize that part of it. Yeah, I'll send you some stuff. Excellent. Cool. Well, there should be some good follow-ups, because hopefully Breitbart... He owns the onion now. What a joke. I don't know. But so hopefully Breitbart and the Federalists will actually follow this up. Yeah, we'll see. See where it goes from here. Ryan, so glad Dropside exists and is publishing this. There you go. All right, well, interesting show today. So interesting. No doubt about it. We'll be back on Friday. That's right. We'll be back.

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