2/10/26: Ghislaine's Pardon Plea, Co-Conspirators Exposed, Epstein Prison Tapes Wiped By FBI

25:32And until that becomes unredacted, the main things that they're sending to the career attorneys to review, I don't think we're going to have full compliance with the law. Get to the question that most Americans want to know, who were the rich and powerful people who went to this island? Did they rape underage girls? Did they know that underage girls were being paraded around? Six men implicated, foreign government, someone high up at a foreign government. I would love to see some of that. Certainly would. Immediately afterwards, Thomas Massey actually started tweeting out very specific redactions, which they had been made, which violated, again, the very law that they authored and were passed through Congress, signed by the president.

26:14And the DOJ had to start immediately unredacting said files as part of this request. Let's put this next one up here on the screen. Thomas Massey, in response to my posts today, the DOJ has now unredacted an FBI file that labels two individuals as co-conspirators. They have unredacted a file that lists several men who have been implicated, and they have tacitly admitted Sultan Ahmed bin Suliam was the sender of the torture video. Now, very specifically, what I think is very important, perhaps more than anyone, is the explicit naming, in this case, of Leslie Wexner. Now, this will come of no surprise to literally anybody who knows anything about the Epstein case.

26:54However, it does immediately downplay the initial claim by the FBI, by Kash Patel, by Dan Bongino, that this was a singular enterprise that only Epstein and Maxwell participated in. Wexner was explicitly listed as a potential co-conspirator here in the DOD documents. It also just makes common sense. The former CEO of Victoria's Secret, who is the source of Epstein's wealth and initial entree into high society, is the person who – oh, and who drew boobs in the birthday book, is a potential co-conspirator in this entire scheme. Oh, you're shocking me with this information. Very important. The second one is a sultan, the Dubai Sultan Ahmed bin Salyam, who we have actually talked previously about here on the show.

27:43this is the guy who is the chief executive officer of the Dubai ports. Now, Ryan and Murtaza, saying over a drop site, have written ad nauseum stories about the Sultan and Epstein's relationship and the way that they were working as a financial conduit in the Middle East. And that was real power, like real money stuff that was going that seems to have been financing some of the stuff behind the scenes for the intelligence deals and other things that we've talked about previously. But just to show you also that their own relationship here with the alleged torture video in that infamous email, and there's a lot of creepy jokes or comments between the two also, demonstrates that those two are linked, which is such an important part of the story.

28:26Like the sex stuff does not exist without the intelligence stuff and the financial, and then same vice versa. The financial and the intelligence doesn't exist without the sexual degeneracy that's present within the email. So very important redactions, unredactions forced there by Thomas Massey and by Ro Khanna. Yeah. And what that email, just as a reminder, it said Jeffrey Epstein to now we know this Sultan said, I loved the torture video. Wow. That's what it was. Okay. What torture video? What are we talking about exactly here? These are the sort of things that can be explored now that we know the name of this individual.

29:03And just to underscore, you know, Thomas Massey was talking about, OK, now we know one potential co-conspirator who was identified by the federal government. Love to know. Was there any sort of a, you know, cooperation agreement? Was there any sort of a deal that was struck with Les Wexner? Was that one of the people that Ghislaine Maxwell is referring to in her filing? What was the investigation into him like? What sort of evidence did you have on Les Wexner and these other co-conspirators that you were potential co-conspirators that you were looking into? too. Let's go ahead and take a listen to Thomas Massey talking about this.

29:35An example of something, maybe it wasn't intentional on their part. I'd like to hear his take on the redaction of the CEO, who's listed as a co-conspirator in the 2019 child sex trafficking case. So can I ask you, because, and I want to ask if this is the same person, Todd Blanch also said about that tonight, that the document you're citing there has victim names in it. Correct. To say that's why there are redactions. He said, we have just unredacted Les Wexner's name from this document, but his name already appears in the file thousands of other times. And he says the justice department is hiding nothing.

30:07Is that the retired CEO that you're referencing? It is. He unredacted it after I found it. That's a problem. And I'm glad they've admitted they made a mistake by redacting that. So you're saying it was redacted when you went in there today. And after you tweeted that, they unredacted it. Correct. Now he's got four other names he needs to unredacted. He responded that there's a list of 20 people. Um, and there's four men in there that need to be unredacted. Here's another troubling thing that I found. Can you say who those four men are tonight? I don't think they're well known. And so if I did, it wouldn't matter, but I could probably say them on the floor of the house, but I'll give the DOJ a chance to do what they did in these two examples where I've discovered something and now they've responded.

30:53So a number of very significant things that he says there. He casually mentions, well, I could probably say I'm on the floor of the House because, yes, you are allowed to reveal that sort of information and you get sort of an exclusion as a member of Congress. So, you know, at any time he's held out the possibility of what he calls the nuclear option. Listen, if you all don't do what you're supposed to do, what you're legally obligated to do, I will come out and I will say the names. I will put on the record who these unindicted co-conspirators are, who was being looked into. And then the DOJ's defense here that, oh, well, Les Wexner's name was in the file thousands of times.

31:27Why do you care so much about this one? It's like because this is the one that specifically identifies him as a potential co-conspirator. It's one thing to have emails about this person going back and forth and, you know, whatever sort of dialogue was going on. It's another thing to specifically know the government identified this wealthy man and benefactor of Jeffrey Epstein over many, many years as someone who deserved an investigation, as someone who may have been directly implicated in Epstein's crimes. That is a very different thing than just seeing some email traffic back and forth with Les Wexner's name in it.

32:03Yes, that's right. And then finally, there is some horrific new video. This is from Congressman Jamie Raskin, who also was able to review some files. And he's revealing, again, even though we talked previously about some of the barely legal and all of that defense, here are some mentioned, he says, of underage girls. And in this case, there's no even argument, actual girls. Let's play A6 and take a listen. I mean, it's an incredibly serious thing. When you read through these files and you read about 15-year-old girls, 14-year-old girls, 10-year-old girls, I saw mention of a 9-year-old girl today.

32:41I mean, this is just preposterous and scandalous. So, you know, I don't want to I don't want to get into any particular case right now, but I hope the whole country is focusing on the absolute gravity of the crisis that we're in. Do you think the British are taking it more seriously than we are? Oh, definitely. I mean, it is. I mean, it's a huge scandal. Right. So for all of the talk about, you know, it's just 16, 17 year old like there you go. Now, look, I mean, who knows? But if there's a mention, investigation, and by the way, even with the mention, what exactly do they say? So that's fully kind of what we know now in terms of the new information so far that's been breaking.

33:25But I do think that the Massey one is very significant. And the most significant is this story. The DOJ, unless explicitly called out, is covering up for all of these people. That's right. If you go and look at the deputy attorney general's feed, multiple of the claims that they say are not true. So, for example, Thomas Massey, in his original tweet about Leslie Wexner, said this is a well-known retired CEO. DOJ should unredact this. Todd Blanche says the document you cite has numerous victim names. We just unredacted Leslie Wexner's name. DOJ is hiding nothing. The document from 2019 discussed only 10 potential co-conspirators and contained no victim's names.

34:05These are just outright lies. And then here's the difficulty for all of us. So as heroic as Massey and Kana are, these are two guys. They're trying to go in to this SCIF for these unredacted documents and trying to remember from the top of their head what should be redacted and not. They can't do that. And even if them and their staff, there's three million filed. There's hundreds of lawyers at the DOJ who've been working on this stuff for months who already violated the deadline. Like this would literally take our entire team, their entire staff, every journalist who's potentially interested in them.

34:47It would take us months just to go through and flag what should be unredacted. Then there's a process and a review. This is to the extent to what they're covering up. And by the way, don't forget, there's still 3 million more files that are out there that remain completely unreleased. And this is why, you know, Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey were pushing for a special master, right? Take it out of the hands of the corrupted DOJ and put it in the hands of someone who is at least, you know, supposed to be neutral and who can follow a process. And, you know, because it's been a horror show. Like, you have powerful men who are being protected and you have victims' names that have been and images who have been exposed.

35:25Like, it's a mess. Jamie Raskin was talking about that same thing you were, Sagar. He's like, there are four computers in there. If every member of Congress went in for an hour a day every day, it would take, you know, it would take months, if not years, to get through all of this material and be able even just to evaluate it to see whether they're actually following the law. I mean, we know that they're not just by the nature of the fact that they are continuing to hide files and that so many of these redactions have been done improperly, over redacted, under redacted, et cetera. So, you know, that's where we are.

36:00It's it is honestly, though, it is a miracle that we've even gotten this much and a testament to, you know, Conn and Massey get so much credit here, but also testament to just the level of pressure from the American people. with all of these members of Congress having to come home and knowing they're going to get questions about this and how utterly indefensible it is. That pressure is what really led them to cave and realize like, OK, well, we got to do something because this thing is going to boil over if we don't put something out and give some pretense of transparency. Absolutely. OK, let's get to the next part.

36:34This is about files.

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39:01And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A-Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Moving on now to some more of the revelations from the files themselves. Remember, these are the gifts that just keep on giving. Let's go ahead and put this up here on the screen. Newly released Epstein documents showing that the FBI agent purposely removed a hard drive from the jail video recording system and erased all the prison footage during the time of death. If you don't believe me, let me go ahead and read it directly from the transcript. Advised an FBI agent was the one who pulled out the DVR.

39:39Also advised he knew that by replacing both hard drives, the system would be wiped, and he had advised personnel at MCC of that.

40:15Continuing, They went ahead and wiped it. So there you go. All right. That's a new one. So we have the memo. We now have the DVR. So there's that. Now if we want to - And the decoy body. The decoy body. Right. Which, I mean, I asked yesterday. Oh, I did put out a public call yesterday for sulfuric acid. I did say I would. So somebody actually did contact me. And here's the response they gave me. I did check and it actually is part of their potential explanation. Seems to make sense. is because it said R-O plant, reverse osmosis is like, you know, it's like a water purification system. They said that R-O plant could be a reference to reverse osmosis.

40:55That's a potential innocent explanation. I'm fine with innocent explanations. If you have innocent explanations for sulfuric acid and ocean tunnels and what else? The body decoys and broken cameras and hard and early memos that are drafted about deaths. I'm all ears. about the blurry orange image on the video, missing minute, yeah, all of those things. I'm ready to present full context anytime, any day that you would like. And yet, and yet, still, to this day, DOJ, look, they're monitoring Thomas Massey's Twitter feed with a magnifying glass. They know about this early drafted memo. Where's your response?

41:33A routine, we draft PR releases about all inmates' deaths. I mean, you'd have to just go with like, we screwed up the date. Yeah. It was our, we were tired, we screwed up the date. An intern screwed up the date. I mean, actually believable, honestly, like genuinely believable, but they won't even offer that. Nothing. So this is the latest one. Okay. Got it. Let's continue. B2, shall we? This is a very interesting one. Epstein installed secret cameras with the help of, quote, handy Russians. Love the British press and their spelling of pedophile, pedophile, credit card statements obtained by the Telegraph.

42:09corroborate purchases of surveillance technology. Jeffrey Epstein ordered staff to install hidden cameras in his home after being told, quote, the Russians may come in handy. And they analyzed some of his credit card statements specifically to basically back up this allegation, both with the emails and the credit card. Yeah. What they show. Because there's emails in there, too, where he talks about, oh, they're really tiny, and I'm going to put them in some Kleenex boxes. Listen to this. Epstein asked his pilot to buy three motion-detecting hidden cameras that record. That's a direct quote, okay?

42:45Direct quote. Three motion-detected hidden cameras that record. He also worked as a technician and general handyman across Epstein's properties. In an email on February 5, 2014, he said he had bought the cameras from a spy shop in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and was, quote, figuring out how they work as they speak. On the same day as the hidden camera purchase, Epstein received an email from someone else whose name was redacted. Remember what we spoke about. If you want to put cameras in the house, it will have to be very discreetly done. The Russians may come in handy. Okay. So let's just start with that.

43:24So one of the core claims of Epstein deniers is he never taped anyone and never blackmailed anyone. There you go. One of the core claims of Ghislaine Maxwell. Remember, everybody's forgotten this, but we've already proven it incorrect. I built those houses from scratch. There's no cameras. Anyway, oh, except all the photos. It's actually not very good. I have a cold right now, so I can't do the true posh British accent. But you've got hidden cameras in the bedrooms. You've got hidden cameras everywhere else. She's a liar. She literally perjured herself in that interview. Doesn't matter. Again, everybody just moves on, but you've got hidden cameras.

43:59Then you had the FBI initial, remember the 2019 raid of the Epstein property. They found all those DVD discs, CDs, and all that stuff, which was all labeled with some of the people. Nobody ever heard about that. No files on that one, huh? Interesting. Maybe it'll be redacted. You could maybe argue – what's the innocent explanation? That he liked to tape himself having sex and others? Yeah, maybe. I mean if that's not all that innocent though. If you're going to see, oh, I don't know, a memorialized memo to yourself about STDs with Bill and Melinda Gates. That seems pretty sketchy, don't you think?

44:33And so you put this all together and, I mean, I don't know. I just continue to think some of the most maximalist conspiracy claims that have been made around this are basically all just correct. And that's what I continue, you know, with the hidden cameras, the FBI's handling of the entire thing. You would have to believe in competence like to the 10th power to come to the, you know, reasonable explanation that he just killed himself this entire time. I just don't buy it anymore. We've got another billionaire, too, who is implicated here and, you know, caught dead to rights lying about the extent of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

45:11This is Andrew Farkas, who was not a figure I was particularly familiar with, but he is, you know, I think part of this family, very wealthy, was campaign chairman for Andrew Cuomo a number of times. So very, you know, high level in New York society. You can put this up on the screen from The New York Times. They say that the billionaire exchanged nearly 2 ,000 emails with the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein over more than a decade, revealing deeply personal thoughts about life, loneliness, and growing old. Kept their relationship from his investors apparently confident. All the links between Epstein and himself, including the business they were partners in, and the trips he had made to visit Mr.

45:45Epstein in jail would never be disclosed. But the release of three million additional pages of the Epstein files on January 30th has made it clear that the billionaire and the New York real estate mogul, Andrew Farkas, had a profound friendship with Mr. Epstein, who he called one of the blessings in his life and one of the bravest men I've ever known. Their relationship played out in the trading of deep confidences, swapped introductions to powerful people, and visits to Mr. Epstein's island, the documents show. And their business partnership was a mutually beneficial real estate deal that helped Mr.

46:17Epstein save millions of dollars in taxes. So not only were they close friends, exchanging thousands of emails, visits to the island, they were also business partners. Yeah, this, by the way, the tax thing, I still remain, thing is bullshit, all right? Because if you are a billionaire, you have access to the wealth houses of Goldman Sachs and Deutsche and Morgan Stanley. I mean, you are talking about the best of the best of the best tax lawyers in the world. Why do you need to hire a basically illiterate imbecile who can barely spell and who from all of his millions of emails, I have not found one actual expert piece of tax advice beyond taking an article written by an accountant and sending it to his accountant saying, maybe we should try this.

47:07It's not tax advice. I can absolutely guarantee you. I can only speculate. Again, this is my own speculation based upon my review, I think he was an expert at money laundering. And in particular, I'm talking about real money laundering on behalf of the intelligence community, the CIA, and yes, also of the ultra wealthy. Once you become very good at moving money around to reduce your tax liability, that's not tax advice. That's called fraud. All right? So like, that's what I think that he was overall an expert. He had a very, very high level criminal mind. Yes. Insider trading. I mean, this is, and again, to even call it criminal is funny because it's not really a crime if you get away with it.

47:42Well, it's not a crime. If every elite in the entire world sanctions it and is participating in the crime, then guess what? I guess it doesn't really count. And, I mean, not just through the insider trading and, you know, apparent money laundering, these sorts of things, but just the whole way he would look at the world, see a country failing or going to war and think like, oh, this is my opportunity to profit. realizing, you know, talking to wealthy, powerful people and saying, look, this chaos, this collapse, this is good for us. This is how we consolidate even more wealth, even more power. This game is easy.

48:18Like, that's the type of thinking that, yes, he was very good at that type of thinking. Any sort of intricate tax planning, financial advice? No, that's not what was fundamentally going on here. Exactly right. So look, again, I'm not alleging in any way that Mr. Farkas was engaging in that type of behavior. This is purely an opinion on Mr. Epstein himself. So let's continue, shall we, whenever it comes to some of the new releases. By the way, again, my great love, respect for the UK. God, I love these people. This is a full-blown crisis. It may take down the monarchy, and the monarchy must survive.

48:56And that's why the king himself, very willing to strip his own brother of titles, completely throwing him under the bus. Let's go to the next one and put this up here on the screen. King Charles releasing a new statement, profound concern and complete cooperation with the police authorities over, quote, Mr. Mountbatten Windsor's conduct. That's how they refer to his very own brother. While the specific claims are in question for Mr. Mountbatten Windsor to address, if we are approached by the Thames Valley Police, we stand ready to support them as you would expect. The Valley Police are confirmed.

49:29It is assessing now whether there are grounds to investigate a complaint by a group which reported that Mountbatten, Windsor is suspected misconduct in public office and a breach of official secrets. So I did talk a little bit about this yesterday, but the details are actually really worth going into because it connects back to the tax advice stuff I just talked about and how he really made his money. He's not a master trader. Insider trading. That's it. But by the way, that's incredibly lucrative if you're friends with the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world. So let's go to the next one just to give you an example.

50:02The current investigation in Britain is claims that the former Prince Andrew shared sensitive reports with Epstein. So this is from a November 2010 email exchange that appeared to show the royal sharing, quote, visit reports after a Southeast Asia trip. All right. So this focuses on some emails that were provided, you know, in some of the some of the release. The email chain, quote, appears to show the former prince forwarding Epstein visit reports from Vietnam, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shenzhen. And one email, who was signed as a special advisor, appeared to contain an attached document file and was forwarded to Epstein within five minutes of receipt.

50:42Now, all of these documents appear to basically be like summaries either of the princess's visit. But the reason why it's important is that he was acting as the trade advisor of the UK at the time. So in multiple of these emails, they tell Epstein that he was planning trips to various different countries, what he was doing, and potentially what he saw. This is information, right, for the prince. He gets to probably meet with some of the, you know, very high-level officials, other heads of state, you know, and gets to meet with local executives and then forward some of that information along. This would be a breach, obviously, acting in his official duties, not nearly as bad as, oh, I don't know, Lord Mandelson being like, hey, we're going to bail out the government just so you know, just so you can go ahead and trade on that information and tip off Jamie Dimon so that he can get involved in this entire thing.

51:30But it's still scandalous. And it just shows this is information is currency. Information at the highest levels. It enables them to manipulate and work the world in whatever way that they possibly want. And this is, again, the smallest, tiniest glimpse. I still think it's just like the eye of the needle in terms of what really is out there. Yeah, that's exactly right. And I mean, it's just so wild to me that the first instinct of like Mandelson when they're deliberating about how to respond to the financial crisis is like, I got some confidential info. Let me send it to Jeffrey Epstein. That was like the first instinct there, allegedly, and being investigated currently.

52:08You also found, Sagar, some more information about potential Epstein CIA ties, courtesy of his former bodyguard. That's right. I'll tell you this. I was not aware. I'm pretty deep, and I'm ashamed to say I was not aware of this lore. Let's go and put this up here on the screen. Credit to Tara Palmieri. We've talked to her before. She has her own Substack. You can go and subscribe to it if you're interested. She also is a very similar background. You know, she was part of the mainstream media. She went independent. And she actually did a pretty deep dive into the Epstein case years ago when it was not all that popular.

52:39So I really trust her. Very legit reporter, Tara. For sure, exactly. And that's why anybody who came to this before it was popular, those are the people I respect. These are like the Julie K. Browns, Tara Palmieri's, and others. So here's what she said. She said, quote, when a rare glimpse inside of Epstein's network of protection from a chilling warning to a secret trip to Langley and why the government kept victims in the dark. And so this was apparently traces back to an interview that she did with Brad Edwards. He was a lawyer for Epstein's victims. It is a conversation that Edwards had with Epstein's bodyguard of five years, Igor Zinoviev, who warned him to back off, quote, because of Epstein's shadowy connections to the US government.

53:20Zinoviev said, you don't know who you're messing with. You need to be really careful. You are on Jeffrey's radar and somebody that Jeffrey pays a lot of attention to, which is not good. You don't want to be on his radar. End quote. I said, give me some examples. Who am I messing with? Edwards recalled. And that's when he looked across the table and whispered three letters, C-I-A. And he talks, actually, about how while Epstein was serving his 2008 sentence, how he actually was sent there on multiple information trips, like to pick up information from Langley. He didn't seem to fully explain some of this, what was going on.

53:59And again, this is kind of hearsay. It's Brad, you know, the lawyer for the victims who's talking about half of the conversation he had with Zinoviev. But, I mean, nonetheless, that is very extraordinary. I do believe that Tara did either FOIA or call the CIA press office and, quote, have not received any confirmation or denial of these mysterious visits in 2008. But nonetheless, it does back up. Like you have a bodyguard basically warning off a lawyer. Here's the thing. Whether it's true or not, there was enough of there at least for him to be credibly trying to make that threat of like, hey, you're messing with some very powerful people when you're getting involved here.

54:33And then all of these talks about trips to Langley, Virginia back in 2008. So, again, I was not aware of this particular part of Epstein lore. And just to add, you know, another feather in the cap for the case. Yeah, well, we also have more pieces that sort of fill out the way that he schmoozed politicians to get whatever he needed from them. In Virgin Islands in particular, there needs to be more exploration with regard to New Mexico as well. because I do think the ranch is an undercovered part of the story. Let's put this up on the screen. This is backed up by some of the emails. So this is from Fifty Shades Away.

55:10By the way, shout out to him. He's been doing a good job going through files, and we've used a bunch of the stuff that he's pulled here. Epstein was paying tuition for the children of the governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands. The former first lady of the U.S. Virgin Islands sent Epstein multiple tuition invoices. He goes on to say, are these bribes why they turned a blind eye to his many crimes and gave him huge tax breaks? And you can see the email here. And by the way, Seton Hall confirmed that these tuition payments were in fact made for the children of the then governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands.

55:41So, you know, in addition to campaign contributions, that wasn't enough. He's giving personal financial perks. Hey, don't worry. Your kid's tuition, college tuition at this expensive university, I got you covered. Not a problem. And then, you know, he's left alone to do whatever he wants and, you know, have all sorts of benefits there in the Virgin Islands. And, you know, they just look the other way because they're in on the benefits from him. I think the Virgin, you know, you're very right about New Mexico. Because Bill Richardson is dead, we don't talk about it enough. He was deeply linked with Epstein, like deep, deep.

56:13And Richardson was also part of the Clinton cabal. Don't forget that. You know, he was tight in the Clinton machine. Him and Epstein, multiple visits and all that. and you're talking about the New Mexico ranch. Any place he seemed to own property, he, or spent a lot of time and was committing some of his crimes, he was in with those local elites. And look, it could kind of make sense. New Mexico, no offense, but not exactly an economic powerhouse. So when you have a very rich person who is there and can pull a lot of strings and has a lot of influence, yes, the governor is going to get in with it.

56:44I mean, the Virgin Islands, same thing. Sure, they have a lot of tourism, but this ultra wealthy man, he owns part of it. He's very wealthy. He's got all these political connections. He's drafting campaign ads for Bill Clinton. He's making sure that all of these wealthy people are coming to the island. Yeah, he gets a little bit involved here and finances a few things at the campaign level. It's probably not an extraordinarily expensive race. And then what do they do? They protect him, which is exactly what happened after he died and you had the initial lawsuit, which was dismissed by the very governor who Epstein was funding from the very beginning.

57:16So you can see exactly like this is how you build and buy political favors. Smaller jurisdiction where there's not as many people and you spend a decent amount of money. You build up some social cachet and boom, this is how it all gets done. So very last thing we want to put up here, B9. Again, not to forget some of the creep behavior here. From Redacted to Epstein. I'll find a girl for you this time, I promise. I'm so bitter now, I'll do anything. Dot, dot, dot. Europe would be better to find little girl. Okay. All right. Let's always remember what we're dealing with. Yeah. Okay, let's move. I'm so glad our government is protecting whoever it was that sent that email.

57:54Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Again, in violation of the law. That's a victim? You're going to tell me that's a victim, right? And if there's national security information, yeah, I think we should probably know if that's a foreign leader or somebody who is like that. Great.

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