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27:23Is this credible? It appears like it's Palm Beach police, but in this, what I think is a deliberate effort to confuse all of us, um, and make it impossible to grab onto anything, the DOJ is not explaining. Uh, I'm actually, we'll ask, uh, uh, Rochon and Thomas Massey, if they can actually look at this one privately or some other members. And so the, actually the former police chief, his name is, uh, Michael Ryder. He told the Miami Herald that the call with Trump occurred in July of 2006. So I think he told Julie K. Brown that. Yeah. So there is contemporaneous reporting to back up that that's that's why we wanted to put this on there because it does appear to be credible.

28:04Yes. It's a very interesting bit of information. Like what are you redacting the police chief there? It's so completely ridiculous. For whoever it is. Yeah. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of Anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

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30:52Let's move on to our eugenics block, which is also an Epstein block, because Epstein, as it turns out, we just covered this basically, is very interested in eugenics. Ryan, you and Moz over at DropSite did this incredible report. And I dropped in at the last minute and added like 100 words. But this was fantastic reporting. You guys went back years and painted, I think, a really important piece of this overall picture. Yeah, team effort over at DropSite, though. Moz and I are slapping our names on it. But it's hard to even explain what the heck this guy is doing here because it's so far kind of advanced and advanced into like just like – I keep using the word creepy.

31:40But there isn't really a better one. This is somebody who understood that he himself was not of the kind of brilliant mind that was going to understand and code break either DNA or Bitcoin or things like that. But he understood it enough to understand who the people were and to be able to connect them and to finance them. And then to try to, like, I think he talks about wanting to clone himself. Who among us. Who among us. and to do DNA experiments. And so the headline of the article refers to how he wanted to turn his new, he built his New Mexico ranch, he said, to be this Manhattan project for basically kind of hacking the genome.

32:29So he wanted to connect NSA hackers to biology. That's why I said in the last segment that this biotech research thing actually tracks. Like this is the kind of thing that he was into. And he's arguing that once you get into the world of code, you know, now you're talking about math. And you actually can try to maybe somebody can answer some of these questions that maybe you can get in there and manipulate DNA and reshape humanity. And like he was trying to do nothing less than that and had the resources and the connections to do it. It's like you sound crazy even talking about it, but that's what it happened.

33:14We can put up the first element up here. It's from, sorry, that's the headline of the story. You can put up the next element, read a little bit from it. Like many of his ultra wealthy peers, Jeffrey Epstein was fascinated by gene therapy and life extension technology. He once suggested to news anchor Katie Couric to her shock and disgust that he even planned to clone himself. but his interest in genomics was more than a passing fancy it was an enduring obsession during the final decades of his life and that the key point is that he's not alone at all like there's something about this and you've got you guys have seen it you see it from Peter Thiel and all these other oh yeah Brian transhumanists like that he was way ahead of it yeah like he was he was a pioneer in creating this space that the Thiels and the Johnsons have kind of moved into um And they're really making this their obsession that they're going to live forever.

34:12Tim Dillon has had a good couple of bits on that. Like, why? Yeah. Your life? You want this life to go on? You don't seem happy. Yeah. What are you doing? You want to do the next? Yeah. Let's move on to the next element here. I'll read from this. This is from the Drop Site story. In December 2006, before Epstein was jailed for prostitution of a minor in Palm Beach, H. Ghislaine Maxwell invited Google co-founder Sergey Brin and his then-girlfriend Anne Wojcicki to Epstein's Little St. James Island, according to emails in Epstein's hacked Yahoo inbox vetted and published by distributed denial of secrets.

34:45Wojcicki had founded a personal genomic startup called 23andMe. You may have heard of that. And Maxwell encouraged Epstein to cultivate a relationship with her. Be very nice to her, not stupid, Maxwell wrote. She's interested in mapping DNA, et cetera. She is key. Smiley face. She is key. I mean. It is interesting that her, his sort of girlfriend, best friend, has to remind him, look, we know that you're a disgusting creature. Reel it in a bit. Try not to be a disgusting creature around this particular woman because you need her for your other disgusting venture, which is this hacking of the world's DNA.

35:28So he was so lucky to have Galen by his side. Yeah, everyone needs a Galen. You put up the next element here. Epstein's interest in gene editing was not purely intellectual. It was personal. Joe Thakoria, Church's Harvard Medical School colleague, helped Epstein conduct research on his own genome. In June 2014, the courier sent Epstein$193 ,400 invoice for a package deal to mutate his adult stem cells, quote, to increase longevity, noting that, quote, if we do this, he, like George Church, would be one of very few people in the world to have this done, unquote. Later that year, Epstein tried to arrange a meeting between Church and Bill Gates to discuss, quote, anti-aging and genetic fabrications.

36:14This is 2014. this is when this this brian johnson's what in middle school you know he jeffrey epstein um walked he's going to be in middle school in about 20 years brian johnson could do whatever it is he's doing yeah well yeah i mean you just see the levels of people who are being wrapped into this big picture scheme and also to go to the lengths of having this sprawling new mexico ranch where you can work on these things, like it's a Manhattan project. You can see, and that's why I think your story is so important, you can see how important this was to Epstein's broader project of wrapping up powerful people together.

36:51We can put the next one up on the screen. Another thing here from the report where you guys say, the files released by the DOJ and oversight committee have shown Epstein deeply preoccupied with theories of racial and genetic superiority. In an anonymous essay recovered from Epstein's files titled, Africa, Parasites, intelligence, the writer mused that for Africa, the environmental factors, parasites, disease, known to exert a strong negative effect on intelligence. Quote, and what is special about Jewish intelligence? The author asked, surely it is that it emerged in mercantile settings, natural home of numbers, logic, and mathematics.

37:25You guys go and write calculations about the long-term viability of the Israeli state and anxieties about the demographics of its Jewish people formed a backdrop to Epstein and Barak, Ehud Barak's engagement with Vladimir Putin In the last years of Epstein's life, Ehud Barak shared grave concerns with Epstein about Israel's looming demographic crisis. During a dinner at Epstein's New York mansion in February 2013, Barak told former Obama economic advisor Larry Summers that Israel needs to solve its Jewish population shortage, quote, before it's too late and stop the, quote, slippery slope to a one-state nation with an Arab majority.

37:58And so, yeah, so there you can see how Epstein's kind of eugenics and supremacy, you know, flow, are held and are shared by his good friends. So Ehud Barak, former prime minister of Israel, that's in that three and a half hour conversation that was released by the Department of Justice. And Barak makes this argument that right now it's too difficult for you to convert to Judaism and then become an Israeli citizen. So what they need to do is take control from the rabbinical institutions that currently guide it, make it more liberal so that you can then get a bunch of Russians who are not Jewish but would rather, he says like they'd rather be Jewish than Russian or something like that.

38:48He got some silly line. So you can leave Russia, come to Israel, convert to Judaism, and then that's his counterweight to the Arab population. And he complains that the early Zionist settlers had to rely on the undesirable brown Mizrahi and Ethiopian other Jews from Africa and the Middle East who, you know, Jewish. So like the Jewish state had to take them in. But Barak is saying that was deeply unfortunate. So disgusting. The Mizrahi bigotry in Israel is that there's this undercurrent of it. It's not discussed a lot. Um, but there is a, a lot of Mizrahi Jews in Israel complain about being treated as, um, as second class citizens there.

39:43And this shows that Ehud Barak, who is considered to be like on the left of the Israeli political spectrum, like completely holds that bigoted view that, uh, they would rather have non-Jews from Russia who are white. But wait till he learns that like lots of Russians are pretty brown. Maybe he's going to make sure they're like from the western part of Russia. Also, the entire state of Israel is supposed to be, in theory, an anti-eugenics bulwark. It's, yes. Every accusation is a confession. It's on and on and on, all the way down. And Ryan, finally, take us to Ukraine here. And so, yeah, so last one here.

40:25On our world tour of Epstein eugenics. Yeah. So put the last one up. In the final year, this will bring us to modern day. In the final year before his death, Epstein supported a biolab in Ukraine for the production of, quote, designer babies led by hacker Brian Bishop. On July 21st, 2018, Epstein wrote to Bishop, I have no issue with investing. The problem is only if I am seen to lead. Now, because already at 2018, the heat is on him at this point. Bishop wrote back, I have always envisioned there would be anonymity requirements about babies. Obviously. We can't publicly identify who these are or their parents or benefactors.

41:02It would brand the child as essentially and sadly a freak for life in the media. Anyway, you know, Ukraine bio labs to make designer babies. And let us not forget a 2013 email with a redacted sender to Epstein that says, quote, you offered to buy my baby six months into our relationship. ship. Yeah. And none of this would be worth talking about if this guy wasn't operating at the very upper echelons of elite global society. That's what you hear everything we said for the last 10 minutes and you'd be like, all right, this is a total crank and kook. Well, I wish. I was, yeah, I was going to say, I mean, the reason that I got into some of these emails actually is because I was searching the DOJ library for NSA.

41:45I was just typing in all the like three-letter agencies. And when I got to NSA, you see the former White House counsel, Kathy Rumler, is talking like there's a calendar invite for Kathy NSA signal intelligence. There's some like fairly open conversation that seems to imply Epstein is aware she's NSA or CIA affiliated. She brags to him about getting a CIA award from John Brennan. And so he's moving in intelligence circles. There's a former CBS News producer named Dan Dubnow in these emails who Epstein meets. And I think they formally meet in 2009 or their relationship begins in 2009. You can see it in the emails.

42:26And Epstein asked him to connect him to NSA code breakers and Israeli hackers. And Dubnow offers that up on a silver platter. He's kind of a technologist. But a CBS News producer, I think a PBS producer as well, Emmy Award winner, goes into technology and is openly trying to help Epstein in these emails get connected to people at NSA and in Israeli hacker world. So the odds that Epstein had, also Boris Nikolic, who was working like a top Bill Gates advisor, this is like Bill Gates' top scientific advisor, is offering to help connect Epstein with NSA people. So the odds that he actually was in connection with NSA people are very...

43:17Although, yeah, but he needed help to get there, so he clearly wasn't working for them. But just to say that the odds that he actually ended up having access to some folks in these spaces is high. And as you read the story, you'll see what his real key skill is. He connects MIT, Gates, and the Russian, you know, the Skolnick or Skolnovik, whatever it's called, basically the Russian MIT, Russian tech incubator for this technology transfer project that was very influential. And he's kind of key to that. So anyway, worth the read. Job numbers are out. We'll talk about that later. 130 ,000 jobs, which is beating expectations, which is actually going to make Trump mad.

44:06We'll talk about why that is next. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

44:45It's about engineering consciousness. Mind Games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

45:15What do you do when the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me, it's where culture meets the soul. A place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks, and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff. Identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore. Loss that changes you. Purpose when success isn't enough. Peace when your mind won't slow down. Faith when it's complicated.

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46:48Much anticipated jobs report just out this morning and beating expectations. We can put this headline up on the screen from CNBC, which says U.S. payrolls rose by 130 ,000 in January, more than expected, unemployment rate at 4.3 percent. Now, quote, more than expected in the headline is doing some work because it was the Trump administration explicitly trying to downplay the jobs report to temper expectations and making an argument for why people should temper their expectations about the jobs report just yesterday. day. So we have the Trump administration reacting now, this is going to be C1B guys, to the jobs report by saying, this is the Trump economy.

47:33New job growth surged in January, adding 130K totaled on-farm jobs and 172 private sector jobs, shattering expectations once again. The unemployment rate fell, wages grew, federal employment is now at its lowest level since 1966. Okay. So before we get analysis from Ryan Grimm, let's roll Peter Navarro just yesterday responding to questions about what the administration expected to see from the jobs report when it was released today. The jobs report's going to come out tomorrow. Yeah. We have to revise our expectations down significantly for what a monthly job number should look like. When we were letting in 2 million illegal aliens, just they're coming in, coming in.

48:18We had to produce 200 ,000 jobs a month for steady state. And by the way, all of the jobs that we were creating in Biden years were going to illegals. Americans were going to the unemployment lines. That's totally reversed. And now 50 ,000 a month is going to be more like what we need. So Wall Street, when this stuff comes out, they can't rain on that parade. they have to adjust for the fact that we're deporting millions of illegals out of our job market. But it sounds like you're expecting a weak number tomorrow. No, not expecting a weak number. I'm just saying that going forward, when we see a number under 100 ,000, we don't wring our hands.

48:59We say, yeah, that's going to be steady state. Okay. So, Ryan, today then, they're now saying this is a great jobs report, beats expectations. This is the Trump economy. They're the ones who set those expectations, interestingly enough. I think they're going to regret saying this is the Trump economy. But at some point, you just have to own it anyway. So digging into the numbers a little bit more, there are some other positive developments of Dean Baker flagging a few here. One of the best ones in here, the number of people who are part-time involuntary. Involuntary. In other words, they want more work than they can get.

49:41Fell by 450 ,000 people. That's great. That's great. So that means people who are part time are have been able to get more work. Says the share of job quitters among the unemployed rose to 13.7 percent. You want you want the unemployed to be people who quit their jobs rather than people who got fired. Like as for somebody who wants to support workers, like you want people to feel the confidence in an economy to be able to quit and then find a new job. So the fact that it rose slightly to 13.7 percent, it's not high. That means like 80 plus percent, you know, were forced into joblessness. But to see that number go up is good.

50:22And people holding multiple jobs, that number fell back a little bit. So those are all good things. The negative, I would say, is that 86 ,000 of the jobs, which is two-thirds of the gain, are, and this is if the numbers are accurate and we can get all these revisions down the road, are in healthcare. And healthcare is a very interesting component of GDP. So my wife, when she was going through treatment, like one of the chemo sessions was$117 ,000. Jeez. that's that's what they build the insurance i don't want the insurance eventually one session paying one session that's the antibodies and chemotherapy one day that is a sign of a completely shattered economy but to the gdp if if the insurance company paid that entire amount gdp would reflect a growth of 117 000 that's like wait a minute really that i'm not so sure about that that like not so sure that that's what we think of when we think of economic growth.

51:30Right. And so we are an aging society. We're also to his point, you know, if we have deported several million people, we're mostly deporting people under 40 and under 30. So not only are we seeing declining birth rates and an aging population, our immigration policy would also tilt our numbers older, which is going to mean more and more spending on healthcare as we go month to month. And so my point is that that's not really people's idea of a growing economy, spending more money, taking care of sicker, older people. But it's good that there or more jobs. Yeah, obviously true. But Ryan, this also included the annual revisions to the year.

52:20Oh, and one other stat from Dean. And then over the last year, healthcare accounted for 122 % of job growth. So other than healthcare, that means we have lost jobs over the last year. Right. So if you're out there and you don't work in healthcare and you're like, wait a minute, jobs are booming. I don't know. That doesn't make sense to me. Right. Well, jobs are actually down over the last year, except for health care. Yeah. Well, and what the Trump administration is obviously trying to do with tariff policies and Howard Lutnick, Commerce Secretary, was not just asked about Epstein yesterday in front of the Appropriations Committee.

52:56He was also getting questions about the administration's tariff policies, which came up for a vote in the House. At the end of the day, we put C6 up on the screen, skip ahead here, because Mike Johnson, tried to wrangle Republicans to block an effort that would allow for Congress to vote on the tariff policies. It failed. Spoiler alert, it failed. This is from earlier in the day, quote, Johnson says it's full steam ahead on tariff vote ban. Well, three Republicans ended up voting with Democrats. The Senate, I think it's been four Republicans in the Senate who have voted against the Trump administration's tariff policies.

53:32Now, this is not veto-proof majority space, so there's no serious legislative will to overturn the Trump tariffs. But let's listen to Howard Lutnick answering questions just yesterday in front of the Appropriations Committee, C5. President Trump ran on lowering folks' costs, and the cost of housing is not going down. We need to build millions more homes, and the home building boom we need is in part not happening because of tariffs on lumber, drywall, kitchen cabinets, bathroom vanities. I think the home builders estimate they're raising the cost of a new home by more than$17 ,000. Would you support legislation to temporarily halt or provide for a tariff exemption process for specific tariffs on home building supplies?

54:25it's a broad, complex issue. If we want to make furniture in America, you have to protect furniture makers. That type of question is a very detailed and complex one and worthy of discussion, and I'm glad to sit with you in your office to talk about it. What do we want to make in America? And whatever we don't want to make in America, we should try to do inexpensively to the extent we care. Well, thank you. I look forward to the conversation. My concern is that overwhelmingly the supply of things like softwood lumber from Canada and a wall board or gypsum board from Mexico are being constrained by tariffs.

55:03These are close allies that work with us through the USMCA framework. They've pushed back hard on the tariffs that are being imposed on their products that are exported into our market. Canada is the largest export market for most American states. I think at a time when there's very little we can actually do in the short term to reduce the cost of housing, this is something we might work together on. This is actually a pretty interesting exchange because obviously the Trump administration's answer to that is they want to initiate a transition period that might be painful. But to what? We're going to grow more trees?

55:40Like, this is the like brain dead part of it that kills me. It's like tariffing maple syrup. Like, we're going to have Georgia grow a bunch of maple trees and start making maple syrup? Like, Vermont's doing what it can. Otherwise, we're getting it from Canada. Same is true with lumber. Like, you want to just go through, like, the Rockies and just chop down all the trees? Like, what's the domestic wood alternative that he's trying to incubate here? What are they doing to, to the other part of that is, what are they doing to potentially nurture the domestic production of industry X, Y, and Z? And is the method...

56:29Right, and if it's raw materials like wood, it's like, you either have it or we don't. And if it's the... We're not growing bananas in like Seattle. Well, and if we need it too, like, and this is why, yeah, like they eased, what do they use? Coffee tariffs. Yes. Yeah. It's like, we have Hawaiian coffee. Like, that's it. Like, we're not. Yeah. Saga said there's like one guy in California who tried to go to California, grow coffee in California. It was terrible. It doesn't sound good. So it's like, what do you, like, stop. Like, we're not going to have a like continental US coffee industry. It's not going to happen.

57:01It's another broad economic indicator to bring in here. Holiday retail sales. This is C4. We should put this up on the screen. Actually, kind of interesting. Holiday retail sales, according to Lisa Abramowicz, were the highest consumer delinquencies since 2017. Those paints, she says, a bleep picture for lower income and younger Americans. So you have disappointing holiday retail sales and then highest consumer delinquencies since 2017, according to Commerce Department numbers that just came out. So, again, piece of the puzzle about where the economy really is. The Trump world spin, this is from E.J.

57:44Antony, who was the heritage guy plucked to run BLS and then was kind of kicked out of the administration. He says the real story of today's jobs reports, quote, Trump was handed an economy that was losing private sector jobs and adding government payrolls. But he successfully flipped the script. And one year later, it's all private sector growth while cutting government jobs. But Ryan, where they want private sector growth is the key question. And that's the question that comes to the table when Lutnik is talking to Chris Coons. Because do they want private sector growth all in healthcare or do they want it in manufacturing?

58:18Do they want it in particular industries that they're trying to revitalize and what's their timetable for that? Right. And if you want to do that, why are you making the cost of their inputs go up? Yeah. Like I'm not against helping American manufacturers. manufacturers I think would be great they're hurting them like what are you doing like we'll say that's their I mean meatheads the process disentangling the process too from the end goal um which actually I think almost all of us Ryan you Crystal Sagar and I are all fairly protectionist on an ideological level um but so the end goal being separated from the process is important and Trump's process has been wacky to say the very least.

59:07To say the very least. So interesting numbers today, interesting. Oh, and I was saying the reason Trump could be upset by this is that you're already seeing interest rates go up a little bit. This is a good point. Because the Fed is expected by the markets to be less likely to reduce interest rates. You're already seeing 10-year notes are up, 30 years up a little bit. because they're saying, oh, the economy is actually pretty good. So we don't want to cut interest rates because the economy is good. And Trump's like, this is the greatest economy ever. You should cut rates. It's like, well, those things are in conflict with dogmatic, conventional understanding of how the economy is supposed to operate.

59:48Yeah, and just final point on all of this is you mentioned at the top of the show the Dario Amode essay that was super viral, a 20 ,000-word essay. And there's another one that's going super viral right now from a guy in AI called Matt Schumer. He just titled it Something Big is Happening. It's linked everywhere. And Andrew Yang has a new post on his sub stack called the AI Meltdown. So this is the Trump administration that has been paddled to the metal on the AI boom and is now in the middle of a generational, by its own description, historic trade war. All of that is happening against the backdrop of a labor revolution that is accelerating literally by the day and is going to accelerate to proportions I don't think anybody fully yet understands through the rest of the Trump administration.

1:00:42And so you have the trade war and the AI revolution happening at the same time that I don't think anybody is prepared for, let alone this administration. And it's happening in the backdrop right now, moving very quickly to the foreground. people are about to graduate from annual college graduations coming up in a few months, likely to see historic levels of unemployment among recent college graduates. So we're already seeing that. Yeah.

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