2/2/26: Epstein Pushed Palantir To Former Israeli PM, Prince Andrew, Bari Weiss, Pizza Codewords

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24:25Open your free iHeartRadio app. Did we mention it's free? Search Two Guys Five Rings and listen now. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions. to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology.

25:06Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness. Mind Games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, getting to foreign connections now. So we talked about all the American politicians that he was connected to. We talked about the intelligence agencies that he was connected to.

25:47Now let's discuss some of these foreign individuals. Obviously a lot of interlap between all of these. A lot of interlap. All of these. And so, you know, one of those individuals, we were trying to decide, like, where does royalty fit in, right? And apparently, we decided on foreign connections here. One of the more infamous, famous ones is Prince Andrew, or formerly known as Prince Andrew. He's been stripped of all of his titles. Some photos released of Mr. Andrews here in the latest dump. Let's put this up here on the screen, shall we? Yeah. Grown man standing over a girl, you know, in the middle of a party.

26:19to some guy on a bed behind him. It's creepy. There's just no really other word for it on all fours lying over a woman who's lying on the ground. So that's Prince Andrew in another horrible picture for him. Let's do the next one, shall we? This one is also equally creepy. Trigger warning on this one. You've got the ex-UK ambassador to the US, Peter Mandelson, pictured standing in his underwear next to a girl in a robe in the Epstein file stuff. Here's the question I have around Andrew about this and so many of these are the creepy photos we're gonna show you in the horror bit. Who allows himself to be photographed this way?

27:01Is this so all just normalized that everybody's in their underwear or like standing over girls in like a creepy and a threatening manner and you're just so like, you just assume you're in a safe space that this stuff will never be able to come out. I mean, that's really what comes through in the emails and all the creepy way that they talk to each other, the birthday book and all the creepy stuff that they would refer to there. The horror section, which we'll get to in a bit, where again, they're just photographing and videoing themselves, chasing girls around in compromising positions. And nobody ever thought for a second, like, hey, I'm literally a member of the House of Lords.

27:38I shouldn't even be doing that. Not only should I not be doing this, I shouldn't be doing this on camera. What was happening here? Inside of this, I'm serious. I do not understand that particular photo. It appear it could have been taken surreptitiously, possibly. But some of the like the Andrew Prince Andrew ones. Yeah, he's posing in this disgusting way for the camera and clearly knows that his photos being taken. The one we showed earlier of like or of like just some gross dude or maybe we have that later in the show. And anyway, some gross dude like with two girls there. I mean, there's a bunch of these where it's like they know they're on.

28:14I don't know. I don't know what that is all about. but it's really something. This next one is very weird too. This involves the Crown Prince of Norway. Put this up on the screen. So asking Jeffrey Epstein for parenting advice about showing her 15-year-old son naked women. Literally asking Epstein, is it inappropriate for a mother to suggest two naked women carrying a surfboard for my 15-year-old son's wallpaper? Yes. What? What? Like, first of all, yes. Where does one even procure such bizarre wallpaper? Number two, the person you choose to ask about this in 2012 is a convicted sex offender. Like, what?

28:58What is happening? Unbelievable. Unbelievable stuff here. Yeah, and he said, let them decide. Mother should stay out of it. Really? Yeah, I don't think so. I think mom should have it. Yeah, 15 years old, still very young. Mom still should be in charge there. Okay. Yeah, got it. Let's continue here. This one is actually pretty interesting. So emails show that Epstein had conducted business in 2016 with Emmanuel Macron, who was then the minister of the economy. And then separate emails describe Macron, quote, allegedly seeking Epstein's help with governance and public relations after he had already become the French president.

29:38So you could see a little bit there. For example, Tom Pritzker, they say, would like direct connect with someone in Macron. Is this doable? And they say, yes, I think so. I will ask my father and return to you. So he's working on behalf of, apparently, from some of his friends. And then he passage on a message from Macron. We believe that we need to rethink, rebuild, and invent governance in format of international institutions. He passes on basically some sort of quote back in 2018. And then also saying Jacques is having dinner with Macron today, so timing is perfect. to Tom Pritzker, who was an American billionaire, by the way, related to the governor, Illinois, the Pritzker family.

30:16And then in another one, from the Sultan bin Saliem to Epstein, says, had a lunch at Elize Palace, had a nice minister, a conversation with French minister of economy, Mr. Macron, regarding our business in France. This same Dubai Sultan is somebody who has been reported on by Ryan and by Murtaza, a saint over at Dropsite, and his connection to the Dubai port. so you can see where all of the connections of all of this come to play. There's also another layer with Macron because he met his now wife when he was 15. Now, they deny any sexual contact until he was of age, et cetera, but entirely possible that he was himself groomed as a child.

30:54Yeah, well, yeah, welcome to Candace Thought. And it is a famous story. Well, Candace goes much further than that. She goes further than that. Yeah. This is the origin of Candace Thought. Let's go to the next one. Let's put this up here on the screen. This was from Epstein and Bannon's text messages back in 2019. He says, now at the pyramid with the entire government, what are your plans? Macron government, question, question. Yup, the ministers of the elite, he says. I mean, remember, this is March 29th, 2019. Look, I haven't seen any message or denying any of this yet from the Macron government.

31:30We'll keep everybody updated if we do. This had to be shortly before. When was he put in prison? Yeah, right, right. It would have been November. Right after this, right? Yeah, so we've been very, very close by. Exactly, it's nuts. Let's go to the next one. Oh, this is a great one. You know, we're talking here about foreign influence. Joy Ito, do you happen to have anyone with influence over Assad? Epstein, not for email. I think everyone should keep this in mind. So consider all the crazy shit that we have shown everyone today, which was in email. Yeah. Jokes about Mossad, like all the billionaire stuff, the harem, the joking, the Trump stuff.

32:07Intel. This one is apparently so since so he did have a line, apparently he goes, I ain't enough for email. We don't talk about this here. So, okay. Well, and wait till we get to the horror block too, where they're talking about torture and whatever, and just like out, you know, so this was apparently too far even for him. That's my, I go, what is so crazy for Jeffrey Epstein that it is not for email? Great question. Okay. Here's another one. Love this. Real ones will understand why this one is crazy. New emails from the inbox show his longstanding interest in Somaliland, including discussions the year before his death with this, who I just mentioned, Dubai Ports, World Chief Sultan Soleim, about proposals for recognition of the territory as an independent state.

32:54So real ones will know that Somaliland more recently is a topic connecting to our own discourse around Israel, Crystal. Wasn't Israel the first country to officially recognize them? Yes, that's why. Yeah, exactly. So there's this longstanding beef, and this involves Somalia. But Israel apparently was involved, like with all things Israel, somehow got imported into our own politics. But you can see here that Epstein himself was also involved in apparently some discussion around the independence, again, with a Dubai, you know, a very, very rich executive in Dubai. Okay, next one. This is another crazy one.

33:29This was an email from the Sultan, same one, suggesting Epstein was involved in or at least discussing. He says, Dear Jeffrey, I am attaching some media clipping regarding the Israeli operation in Dubai. I will call you around 7 p.m. time. What happened doesn't help anyone. So this was after an assassination of a Hamas leader in Dubai back in 2010. and the only reason why it's this is like trip some flags is what he says what happened doesn't help anyone i'm attaching some media clipping it seems to think that they're going to discuss it and they'll have some role in it not that they're just discussing crystal like per you know they're not just discussing current events it seems to say what happened doesn't help anyone like he's trying to get him to relay a message that's how i read that but you know of course you can read it in any way yeah but very like very interesting that that would be the person you would reach Exactly.

34:21That's what I mean. And like, oh, we need to, well, why are you talking to Jeffrey Epstein? Right. How do we get - What's the reason you need to talk to Jeffrey Epstein about this? Exactly. How do we get in touch with these guys? How do we make sure that they don't know, you know, what exactly is happening? So you can see that that one is very important. All right. Let's continue here. This is, let's put this next one. This is a, this is a very disturbing one. This is a journal from, you know, purported victim. and it's lengthy and there's all kinds of stuff written out in like a weird code. It's very disturbing.

34:52But this part in particular was deeply, deeply troubling. So it says in the hall, Ghislaine said she was beautiful. She was, not is. She was a beautiful girl. I heard her. Where is she? Why did she stop whimpering? She was born. I heard the tiny cries. I can't do this anymore. He is now controlling everything when it used to be Ghislaine, who some days acts like she hates me. secrets of all of them. I'm tired of keeping the secret. I know people are wondering, but I can't tell. I am exhausted. Broken promises. I don't understand why she is treating me on some days like I'm the enemy, but then we lay in bed together and she is how she used to be warm.

35:30He makes her feel my tummy and is so sad and confusing. Superior gene pool? Why me? It makes no sense. Why my hair color and eye color? That feels very Nazi-like, but in thinking about these stupid, insane theories he has, I guess in his mind, it makes sense. The piano and music comments are made to convince me this is right and create perfect offspring, he calls them. I don't think it works that way. And it makes me hating playing together. Piano or viola, I am starting to resent them both. I miss the person I was before I was made into what feels as a human incubator. So I don't even know what you say about that.

36:06It's just disturbing. Fits, I guess, really in the horror block because this is what a victim wrote. And like I said, there was also – there was a longer part of it. There were parts that were in bizarre code. There are other allusions throughout the files to like weird impregnation. Incubator, they talked about that quite a bit. Look, it's super disturbing. And that's what we're saying, even contextualizing it. It's very hard to even like – it's really hard to even say the reality of it. Was it like some disturbed writing? But I mean, this is where, I was gonna save some of this for the horror stuff, but like this is where the eyes wide shut part of it just seems real.

36:44Like there's no rational or safe universe where stuff like this is even going to exist. Like in what world can, in what environment can something like this even be, you know, even be written down either as a confessional or some sort of fantasy, but like whatever exactly was being released and was happening and all here, It just is very, very difficult to even fathom the conditions in which something like this could ever be written. Let's go ahead and talk about some of the media angle here because this is actually one of the wilder parts as well. Yes, that's right. And very relevant to current events and some of the current events we cover here on this show.

37:24Yes. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. have both been assassinated. And Black America is at a breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution, I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago.

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38:52search Two Guys Five Rings and listen now. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, a.k.a. Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

39:33It's about engineering consciousness. Mind Games is the story of NLP, its crazy cast of disciples, and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Turning now to media. I got to say at the beginning, this one hurts. Dr. Peter Atiyah, I read his book. I listened to his show. I thought he was one of the most well-respected doctors, longevity specialists.

40:15really cut through a lot of the BS. Literally last week, listened to a full episode that he's done. I've listened to multiple of his, like followed a ton of his advice. So when I saw this, it was shocking. It's shocking too, also in terms of the way that he's talked about family life and personal stuff. But look, I mean, it's part of the public conversation and it is worth reporting on. So let's go to the next one and let's put this up here. So you have this email exchange from 2015 from Jeff, by the way, keep in mind the subject line because I'm not even sure what that means. God of Fresh Shipment, not sure what it says, from Epstein.

40:51And then Atiyah writes here, you, the biggest problem with becoming friends with you, the life you lead is so outrageous and yet I can't tell a soul, dot, dot, dot. And the God of Fresh Shipment appears to be a question. Right, it's like - Because Epstein says, afraid not. Right, so please tell me you found that picture online dot dot dot bastard was another email that was written. So again, I don't know exactly what the context of this exactly one is. Let's go to F2. I mean, I don't even have words for this, right? So you got a TA here saying, pussy is indeed low carb, still awaiting results on gluten content.

41:31February 2016. Look, locker room talk, I guess, but it's just one of those where, and we're not even going to read some of the other ones where he's talking about his personal life and his relationship with his wife. And that's all tawdry. But I mean, it's just, again, like I said, it's really tough for a lot of people like me and many others out there who've been relying on his advice and his health information. I mean, I can't be alone. There are millions, he has millions of followers, like he did his advice, like really cut through, read the studies, elevated, I thought some of the best, most responsible voices and like in health and fitness.

42:07And I mean, everybody did know for years that he had this concierge doctor business with the rich and the powerful. And he had Hollywood celebrities on. There was a little bit of a red flag back in the day. I remember he posted this thing with Kevin Spacey. And I was like, that's a little weird because he said he unconditionally. And I was like, okay, people can know Kevin Spacey. That's all fine. But yeah, I mean, this is tough. And it's also, by the way, in the context of Atiyah more recently, just got hired by CBS News. 60 Minutes just did a whole thing with him, which I thought was great. That's why this is so crazy.

42:41And even reading the list, I'm like, oh, this is the good. Actually, Huberman and Atiyah, this is good information. So I don't know how CBS is going to handle this one or how his own audience and all of that will react. I've looked. He hasn't said anything as of recently in terms of a statement. But this has been blowing up all over you know, health, Instagram, and much more, including many of these, you know, he's going to have to address it, presumably, you know, at some point. But he is one of the more prominent, like, media figures who was named here in the files. Yeah. Not just named. I mean, you could see his own relationship.

43:17And there's hundreds of emails. There's a lot. It's not just the other. Because he was his doctor. These two, it was, there was a lengthy exchange. And again, we're talking about a time, 2015, 2016, when it is well known what is, you know, after the conviction. So you can't say, oh, I had no idea what was going on. And you can see the content of the type of discussions that they were having as well and draw your own conclusions about what is going on there. That's right. Speaking of Barry, though, let's go and put the F3 up on the screen. You've got some friendly exchanges between Barry's wife, Nellie Bowles, who also is like a, you know, founder, what is she, editor at large of the Free Press.

43:55In any case, she's got some friendly exchanges here with Jeffrey Epstein. He's asking her, when are you and your babe back in New York City, the babe here being Barry Weiss. You've got some, hello, Nellie. Jeffrey will be in New York tomorrow and Wednesday. Might you be around? Available to come meet him. Masha believes you will both enjoy each other's company. Perhaps Wednesday at 11 a.m. Jeffrey's home address is blah, blah, blah. Please let me know. Thanks. And so you've got these, you know, friendly exchanges, plans to get together, et cetera, back and forth between Barry Weiss's wife, Nellie Bowles.

44:29To be fair, Nellie Bowles had written about it previously, saying that she'd met with Epstein and all that. She said it was for work. Just saying. She did cover elites. She covered Silicon Valley and other elites. So perhaps. No, I mean, look, I'm just saying, it's not like it was a secret. As anybody who watches this show, I'm not the biggest fan of the free press or any of that. Just noting, you know, she had previously said, yeah, it's not a secret. Like I'd connected with them. But all of this, you know, in the context kind of CBS, it is kind of crazy the number of like weird connections that we're able to find.

45:06Let's put this next one up here. This is from Harrison Berger, who flagged multiple, showed up a bunch in Epstein files related to large wire transfers. You know, the problem with the context is we don't really see much beyond some of the overall amounts. But of course, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to see large wire transfers and all that going back and forth. But it does show some of the major figures here who were involved. Put F5 up on the screen now, for example. This one was showing Epstein relating to travel with Woody Allen back in March of 2012 for what was described in the correspondence as a pedophile convention.

45:48Seems to be a joke, but it says, question for you, Paris with Woody Allen, sorry for all the typos, from Jeffrey to Redacted. He replies, for lay pedophile convention, question mark, and Epstein replies back, I think pedophile is the plural. So that's the type of joke that they're all telling themselves behind the scenes. And then F6, if we will, I thought there was kind of interesting thread from Jeet here. had my back and forth with Jeet over the years. We'll give credit where it is due. He says, the new batch shows to help illuminate a contemporary controversy. What's up with Barry Weiss? Up to CBS.

46:23I think the answer is she's trying to rehabilitate Epstein Network as a bulwark of reactionary centrism. I think really what he means by there, by Epstein Network, is just like this general, you know, like global call and thought, right? We have the rest. Let's continue with this thread because I thought this was interesting. He puts a bunch of the pieces together. He says, let's lay out the connection. Weiss's partner and ideological collaborator, Nellie Bowles was on very familiar terms with Epstein, as we were just discussing. Next one, announcing her plans for CBS. Weiss said she wants to marginalize the radical right and left while elevating charismatic, she actually said that, centrist voices like Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's former lawyer and crony.

47:00And of course, next one, another voice being elevated by Weiss is Peter Adia, who we were just discussing. Next one, of course, Weiss has brought on Steven Pinker to CBS, who also has his connections as part of her new town hall format. She had used Larry Summers for free press, but of course, Summers now, because of his Epstein connections, is too toxic to rehabilitate. Next one, Weiss presents her mission at CBS is restoring trust by elevating centrist voices, which is accurate enough, if we understand centrist voices, to mean the type of men likely to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein. Completely forgot to mention, Weiss did a lengthy, friendly interview with one of Epstein's closest friends, Woody Allen.

47:38And then he concludes, Weiss's project is creating an operation paperclip for Epstein's cronies, taking a group of discredited men, rehabilitating them as necessary pillars of system. Dershowitz and Peter Adia are the Wernher von Braun's of reactionary centrism. So putting some pieces together there. And I think that is a useful way of thinking about it. And it doesn't have to be conspiratorial, but obviously you see, you see in these files, you see the way power works. You see the network here. And, you know, they want to maintain their power and control. And in order to do that, you need media organs that are going to elevate you, that are going to, you know, manufacture consent for the world as you see it and as you want other people to see it.

48:25That's what allows you to continue working the levers of power. And so, you know, I think when you put all of those pieces together, it's a pretty good theory of what she's up to there, of trying to keep at bay the sort of the reactionary right, try to keep at bay the Bernie Sanders left. By the way, there is one funny mention of Bernie Sanders in the files where Larry Summers is bitching about how some of his kids like Bernie Sanders too much. He and Norm Finkelstein are the only two people who come out of this looking better than before. Norm was offered to meet with Epstein, and he was like, I would rather, like, that guy should be strangled.

49:01I would never meet with him, blah, blah, blah. So in typical Norm fashion, going very hard in the paint, disgusted at the even suggestion. And this was at a time when he was at a low point in his career. In any case, putting that aside, I mean, that is Barry's project is basically like, let me try to put back together the pieces of this collapsing world order and try to rebuild some of the powerful pillars of that world order and people that I know are going to be amenable to that project. And so, you know, and not just Barry, like the Ellisons, I think that is sort of broadly the project that they are engaged in.

49:37Yeah, I mean that's why the irony of the whole – not to make this into a whole CBS thing, but the whole CBS thing, the idea that this is some revolutionary takeover is ridiculous. Like what it is is about exactly kind of how we described it, so-called reactionary centrism, like making sure that everything is pro-Israel, making sure that the voices that we say are elevating that aren't enough in our media are like Mike Pompeo and H.R. McMaster and a bunch of other folks who everybody in the media ideologically has largely agreed with now. for a decade. Hillary Clinton, right, bringing her on for some sort of stream.

50:11We're going to do the fucking news, you know, she says, but really not changing things up really at all and making it all part of like a broader Ellison empire. So in a way, like I think his idea here about protecting the Epstein, like reactionary centrism as Epstein thought is very apt because that is what spans all of these emails, all of our coverage from throughout the day. You've got the deep state, You've got politicians. You've got people of influence and power. You've got the financial system. All of it is about protecting itself. It's all about making money. It's all about morality imposed upon others but not a morality that looks inside.

50:47Actually, now when I think about it, it's very Victorian where in the Victorian age, all of the commoners were expected to uphold themselves to a very high moral standard. And outwardly, the king and the royalty and all of them would project that. But inwardly, they were disgusting degenerates who were often some of the most like conducting the most degenerate behavior. But they themselves were like total hypocrites, kind of protecting themselves in this power and influence. So I guess it's a tale as old as time. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr.

51:22had both been assassinated. And black America was at a breaking point. rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should.

52:05And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Seems like just yesterday that the Two Guys Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. And we'll join athletes from 93 countries as Two Guys Five Rings hits the Italian Alps for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Did we mention it's free? Search Two Guys Five Rings and listen now. What if mind control is real?

52:48If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness.

53:23Mind Games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, that's a good segue to our last piece here, which is just some of the things that you can't even really categorize. You know, they just depict the absolute depraved, disgusting, like beyond belief type of activity. You know, it hints at it, right?

54:06This is all the little glimpses that we get. And we've talked about this before because, I mean, it really does. the birthday book was very eye-opening for me. Like, page after page of the most disgusting, disturbing, dystopian references, where that was the moment when we both were, oh, ISY Shut is a documentary. Like, this is real life. And I genuinely I believe so firmly now in the strongest possible way that being a billionaire, being extraordinarily powerful, being extraordinarily influential, you know, well-positioned in these ways, it destroys your soul. It destroys your soul. It's not only bad for society, it is bad for you personally.

54:49And so, as you said, you know, this type of depraved behavior, it's not new. This is something you see repeated over millennia with the, you know, top elites of their time, where the best I can psychologize is that, you know, because they have so much and because they also see themselves as being this distinct, you know, class of humans that are separate and above from all the rest, that first of all, it excuses any sort of horror and abuse. And Jeffrey Epstein, clearly, if you read these emails, has a specific like Jewish supremacist ideology that he believes in, which is part of his own mental architecture of why he believes he's justified in doing all of these things that he does because he's different.

55:37He's special. He's separate. These girls that he's abusing, they don't count in the same way. There's one email that we were talking about where he's pissed off at Bill Gates asking him for money for his projects in Africa. And he's basically like, this is some Catholic bullshit where they believe every human life is equal. That's what he says. He does not believe that every human life is equal, and he's disgusted that Bill Gates might subscribe to that ideology. So in any case, I think you get that mentality. You get this level of decadence. The normal pleasures that you and I engage in, they don't hit the same.

56:16And so you just do this increasingly disgusting and depraved behavior and end up with, I mean, things that I think most ordinary people could not even conceive of. So let's go and put this some of this together. Again, these are like the glimpses we get in these emails. Right. There is this video of Epstein in a kitchen and the girls here are redacted. Girls, women, we don't know their age. You can tell from the reflection that it is females and you can hear their voices. You can see him, like, chasing them around the kitchen island, you know, in his sweatpants. And they're, you know, giggling and he's going after them.

56:55That's enough of that. We can put, let's put G2 up on the screen. This is another one of these perplexing photos where you're like, why did you let yourself be photographed like this? We don't know who this dude is. laying with his belly hanging out in his underwear and then two females of indeterminate age, potential victims, we don't know. They're with him. So you got that one. Let's put this G3 up on the screen. This is from a Harvard professor. So it says, our spy was captured after completing her mission. This is from the Harvard professor. And Epstein replies, did you torture her? okay uh what does that mean does that mean what it appears to mean is this some sort of a some sort of a joke an inside joke between the two of you there were a number of references to torture in all of this um in addition let's put g4 up on the screen there was also a lot of language that appears to be coded regarding food i wanted to let you know the crew really appreciated the pizza another email read this is better than a chinese cookie see attached let's go for pizza and grape soda again.

58:05This one talks about, yeah, that's the pizza. You mean radiating a soft glow with a look of bliss and excitement. There's one more, I think, in this list as well. Sorry, I have no stomach for even the slightest aggro. I don't have the stomach for it for any drama, imaginary real. I'm still fragile off the last one and scared of shadows. This is in response to some videos that were shared where Jeffrey Epstein himself says, I watched all of these videos, don't send any more. And then Ghislaine is like, I can't stomach any of this. What the fuck did you send that Jeffrey Epstein was like, no more?

58:38Well, and remember that they have some sort of opsec because previously it said not for email. Again, I, I, especially more recently after becoming a parent, like I find a lot of this stuff like extremely difficult to even look at and just think about how people could end up like in this type of situation and just the casual callous nature in which they would talk a lot about women and use them as tools. I mean, for example, let's put this next one up here from Emily that she was able to find. The snow white was F to twice as soon as she put on her costume. Don't forget there were previous, uh, you know, there were previous references to a snow white that we previously had made here before on the show regarding Jess Staley.

59:23We don't know if he was the person who sent this email and perhaps this was just some sick game that he would set up for him and his friends, but you could see that. Put G6 up here on the screen. This was some guy who was proposing that Epstein would participate in some sort of modeling contest for all of the top girls inside of Russia. And so these are all just like schemes, you know, with power and all of them behind them to victimize and to get women in positions of which they're subordinate to him and which he's powerful over them. And look, I mean, we showed you guys the Andrew photos, but there's all kinds of creepy shit in there.

1:00:03Like if you go through and there are hundreds of these photos, I clicked through the vast majority of them, people in like very compromising, like weird sexual positions. By the way, the DOJ even accidentally release nude photographs in some cases that most of them have been released now, but just to show you like their own redaction process. But the unfortunate part is they redact the names in many cases of like powerful guys. And then some of these women, you know, their photographs or others are being released without their consent or in a compromising position and they don't do anything. It's terrible.

1:00:35But yeah, I mean, just my overall takeaway is there was some sick, sick, sick, deep, depraved stuff that was happening there. And I mean, this is part of the difficulty where, look, the pizzas, like, you know, everyone likes to make fun of Pizzagate and all that. And sure, you know, it got out of control. However, the original idea of people referring to C Sam as pizza was a thing. That's kind of what the connection became. And you can look, I mean, you can't deny that a lot of these emails are very strange and do not make any sense in the context of actually talking about pizza because it was internet slang that was previously that you were able to make the relation.

1:01:16I just don't see how you can't connect it, at least in some way. It's kind of like the Podesta thing. Everybody says, you're a kook. Go look at photos from Tony Podesta's house if you've never seen it before. And you're not going to say at the very least a weird shit or it looked weird as shit in terms of the art in and of itself. Yep. Let me read one of these pizza ones again. This is better than a Chinese cookie. See attached. Let's go for pizza and grape soda again, no one else can understand. Does that seem like a normal thing that a couple of billionaires would be sending to each other? That's what I mean.

1:01:47You draw your own conclusions. About pizza and grape soda? Yeah, you draw your own conclusions about what that means. Like, I have no other way to describe it to you. It's just one of those where clearly they were up to some, I mean, don't forget that even in 2019, if you look at his Amazon receipts, which with Bloomberg went through, I mean, he was ordering all this like crazy sex shit on Amazon, which is in his receipts. Yeah. On top of, what, Lolita, the revised annotated copy. Right. You know, it's like, it was so out in the open, not only in terms of his friend group, but from behind the scenes and all the stuff they were up to.

1:02:21And remember, everything we've shown you today is what they put in email. And he had a, well, he had insight into what he wouldn't put into email. And there's a couple other things to say about that. So when, was it Todd Blanche that announced that Epstein files released? Anyway, he said that they left out any images of torture, death, abuse. That means they had images of torture, death and abuse that. OK, so they still are holding on to to that, which I mean, true. I don't want to see that material, but it seems like potentially there needs to be some investigations there. Nobody was implicated outside of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

1:03:03well, nobody else. There's nothing here of anyone that can be charged. I want to underscore again that by the government's own admission, there were 6 million files and they narrowed it down to 3 million files. So we are getting the handpicked view that they want us to have. So it's really important to keep that in mind as well. One thing with regard to the Pizzagate thing. So it looks from the files that Epstein met with the 4chan guy who started the Paul board on 4chan, which was the place where Pizzagate and QAnon, where they come from. OK, and they met on the same day that that board begins.

1:03:50So there's a lot of theorizing about, you know, I mean, this is a tale as old as time that the culture war is used to distract people from the real problems in society and the globe, which is the power of these very billionaires. So, you know, it's not crazy to imagine that they found all of these kooky conspiracy theories to be very useful that were, you know, I mean, Pizzagate was stupid and bizarre. and so it made it very easy, and so was QAnon, and so it made it very easy for people to see all of this, the real things that were going on, as preposterous, right? And so the, you know, the New York Times of the world and whatever wouldn't deign to look into it, media organizations involved directly in cover-ups, etc., because it was all painted as, like, just the, you know, the hobby horse of these crazy fringe conspiracy theorists.

1:04:39And again, like, Pizzagate and QAnon were ridiculous things. Were they sort of put out there intentionally so that you, you know, are making the real part also seem like it's preposterous and like it's just an icky conspiracy theory? That is, you know, one possibility. I'm not saying that's proven by this, but there's one possibility here. Let's put the next piece up on the screen from, this is a Daily Mail write-up of some of the allegations that were contained from a victim in these files. They say, Jeffrey Epstein raped underage girls several times a day as part of a sickening routine. Detailed new documents released by the Department of Justice, an alleged victim in a civil complaint filed in Florida in 2010 revealed the process that young girls endured upon their arrival at his Palm Beach mansion.

1:05:27Each girl was brought to his home in private transportation arranged by Epstein, greeted by an assistant who collected her personal information, then led up a remote flight of stairs to a room containing a shower and massage table. If it was her first encounter with the pedophile, another girl would be in the room to lead the way before being dismissed by Epstein, the alleged victim claimed. Epstein would then have his massage wearing only small towel, which eventually would be removed. He gave his victim specific instructions as to where and how he wanted things done and would order them to strip naked.

1:05:55The complaint released in Friday's Epstein files revealed. So this is, you know, one of the alleged victims. This is what she told the FBI. And I mentioned this earlier. I mentioned it again. we did get a look of that draft indictment before the sweetheart deal is crafted where you had, what, a dozen plus victims who had come forward and testified in very similar terms to this level of abuse that they had been subjected to girls as young as 14 who spoke to authorities about this. Yeah, let me just - And were betrayed. And were ultimately betrayed. Because for years, people have said that Dershowitz, for example, has defended and been like, oh, the victim was only set.

1:06:32No, no. The plead only happened because they picked the oldest girl that was involved. But remember, and if you read that indictment, which by the way, I'd been waiting for it for a long time, but to actually see the original case, look, you can read it yourself. Acosta is claiming though that he didn't have enough to be able to prosecute. But if you read the allegations and all that made within, you can see that they had a much stronger and bigger one that would have sent him to jail forever. Very different. from what he eventually pled guilty to later on. And that backs up everything that we've said here over the years.

1:07:07I mean, the FBI agents and others had told us specifically about this case and about some of the details, but to read it and to finally see it all for yourself, it basically, I mean, look, it does make it so that all the people who originally defended the plea deal, they look like idiots, in my opinion. Like if you read through it, it's obvious. And so, I don't know, I guess that's it for all of us today, but I hope it was useful to everyone. And I'll just say - We've put a lot of work into it. The victims who have come forward, the survivors, have said they continue to be disgusted with the cover-up.

1:07:37They continue to be disgusted with the fact that victim details were revealed. The names of powerful men were protected and redacted. The Department of Justice continues to be in violation of the law that was passed and signed into law by President Trump about the level that they're supposed to release, the amount of documents they're supposed to release, what is supposed to be contained in there, what they're supposed to redact, what they're not supposed to redact, et cetera. So we'll leave it at that. And I'm sure, look, it was 3 million files. It's a lot. There will continue to be things that come out.

1:08:09Anything we find noteworthy, we will continue to cover. But we wanted to do as comprehensive an overview of what we had seen so far and the portrait that that all paints. Exactly. So we did our best. We collated all this stuff. This was all publicly released information from the DOJ in many cases where people had given statements about it. We made an effort to read those on here and just wanted to make clear that these were information that was released by the DOJ. Being mentioned doesn't necessarily implicate wrongdoing, and to our best of ability, we've contextualized it here on the show. Okay.

1:08:41Thank you all so much for watching. We appreciate it. We'll be back here tomorrow.

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