2/2/26: Trump In The Epstein Files, Bill Gates & Elon Musk & MORE

24:51Do you know if it will just be Howard, being Howard Lutnick, and his wife? Any kids coming along? Will they arrive, J.E.'s island via their boat? And around what time is good for them if you could pass along when you know that would be great? RCC'd here. Thanks, Leslie. So there you go. Some indications that there were hangouts post his revulsion from that alleged encounter, Sagar. Very interesting. The reporter got him on the phone, said he could not comment about the visit because he had not seen the documents. He said, quote, I spent zero time with him. And then he hung up on the reporter. Interesting.

25:26In case you want to. OK. So last amid this, we can put the next one up on the screen. Trump has announced, too, he is going to name his next Fed chair nominee. Obviously, it has to be confirmed by the Senate. Fed chair, incredibly, as you guys know, one of the most powerful, actually, people in the country, if not the world. Kevin Warsh is the name of that individual. And here he is on an Epstein guest list is what this is. And they're talking about on this – in this email, they're talking about how many people are going to be here tomorrow. Here's the list. And then goes through all of these people and some various contact information or connection to them.

26:06And so there you see Kevin Warsh, house near Isle de France. This is St. Bart's Christmas 2010. I mean who amongst us has not been at a St. Bart's Christmas party hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, right? Even back in 2010. This is what we were saying earlier. Like, this is the global elite. These people all hang out in the same places. They all know each other. They all have business connections. Nobody appears to have any qualms. I mean, I've said it before. Am I just the only guy who Googles people before you go to their house? Like, is that not a thing? They don't care. Do they just not care?

26:37Like, there's literally no universe where I'm going to go to somebody's house as convicted sex. Literally zero. There's a bunch of these emails where, and I don't remember exactly from who, But there's a bunch of these emails where people are messaging him, like giving him advice about how to handle his bad PR from his sex offender conviction. Actually, we're going to get to one of them. Richard Branson was one of the people who was saying, like, here's how to handle it, blah, blah, blah. So they all knew it wasn't a secret. I mean, maybe some of them were gullible enough to believe because ultimately what he was charged with was like sex with one, what they described, a 17 and a half year old.

27:10Well, they selectively picked the girl that was closest to being of age. We know, I mean, one of the things that we got in here was the original indictment that had all of the allegations from girls as young as what was the youngest, 14. 14. So, and it was, you know, a dozen different girls who had made these allegations. And then you get, you know, Dershowitz gets in there and they get their sweetheart deal. And next thing you know, he's able to go forward with this lie of like, oh, I just screwed up this one time with this girl. She was almost of age. I had no idea. And so maybe some of them bought that.

27:40But I think more to the point, they didn't care because he was in the club. I mean, that's what you really come away with, because a bunch of these guys are frankly like at least white collar criminals. And so, you know, criminality is nothing that they are nothing they're stranger to. And the other thing you really get a sense from and I think comes out really clearly in the birthday book is like they knew what he they knew what he was doing, whether they were directly participating or not. They knew what was going on. I mean, it comes out in Trump's quota. He loves women maybe even more than me and maybe even younger.

28:11Right. I mean, there were indications that the whole club knew what was going on here. Another person who was in here a lot is former top Trump advisor, still very influential in MAGA world, Steve Bannon. Bannon interviewed Epstein over hours and hours. And one of the more striking revelations here was this roughly two-hour compilation of interview footage, Steve Bannon with Jeffrey Epstein. I confess I haven't had time to go through the whole two hours. I don't know if you have either. But here was an interesting clip from it where Bannon asked Epstein directly whether he thinks he is the devil incarnate.

28:52Let's take a listen. What are you, class three sexual predator? Tier one. What is tier one? Tier one is the highest and worst? No, I'm the lowest. Do you think you're the devil himself? No, but I do have a good mirror. It's a serious question. I'm sorry. Do you think you're the devil himself? I don't know. Why would you say that? Because you have all the attributes. You're incredibly smart. You remember the devil is somebody knows what? The devil's brilliant. You read Milton's Paradise Lost. No, the devil scares me. And Bannon, very creepy moment. And Bannon is interesting in all of this because especially in the first Trump administration, and to this day, I mean, he's very connected, right?

29:33And so he's exchanging all of this back and forth with Epstein about a variety of policy topics. And so Epstein has this direct conduit, even if you believe that Trump has completely cut off ties with him, which I think is plausible. We don't see any direct communications between them, certainly. But he has this direct and influential conduit to the Trump administration throughout the whole first administration. and then he ends up dead. To indicate that actually Emily did a lot of work, I think more than anyone digging into the Bannon-Epstein conversations and text messages. Let's put this next piece up on the screen just to demonstrate what I was talking about.

30:13Remember that John Bolton was part of the first Trump administration. She says, hell of a December 2018 exchange here between Bannon and Epstein. Epstein says he's getting John Bolton on board with the idea that Qatar is the linchpin in the Middle East. Bannon says while he got Bolton his NSA job, quote, he will not cross Sheldon Adelson. So I'll just read this exchange. You've got Bannon or sorry, you've got Epstein saying you can explain to your boys that the linchpin in the Middle East is Qatar blockade lifted. They can help on many fronts. Many. Steve Bannon says I'm heading to AD tomorrow.

30:46Then Epstein says I think I'm getting Bolton on board. At least he's an adult. Bannon, Bolton only doing what Sheldon Adelson tells him to do. I got John the job, but he will not cross Sheldon. Epstein, I'm aware. Bannon, key is MBZ. Get him, get actionable deal. Epstein, and the young brother, Wed. I don't know what that means. Everyone reaching out for economic ideas. I guess my press is not translated into Russian, French, or Arabic, bragging about the global connections that he continues to have. Yeah, and especially that part about Bolton on board with the idea that Qatar is a linchpin. Bannon saying he got bolted in his NSA job.

31:21He will not cross Sheldon. Sheldon Adelson, the influential pro-Israeli billionaire. Sheldon comes up a lot in his files, by the way. His wife, Miriam Adelson, who some of you may be familiar with. Go to the next one, by the way. This is a great one. There's text messages between Epstein. Bannon goes, all roads lead to Beijing. Epstein jokes, or Tel Aviv, winky face. Maybe it's not a joke, is it? But yeah, this is what they say behind the scenes. Let's continue. RFK Jr. making his appearance here. This was to Jeffrey Epstein, from Ghislaine Maxwell to Jeffrey Epstein. Love that. Didn't we go fossil hunting with him and Bobby Kennedy in North Dakota?

32:02Question mark? This was about dinosaur and fossil hunting on a ranch previously and Joe reminiscing about some of the previous times they'd spent. Remember, RFK Jr., by his own admission, had been on the Epstein thing and talked a little bit about it. I think we even asked him about it. He gave the craziest answer. It wasn't on our show that he gave the answer. He was like, yeah, I hung out with all kinds of things, and then proceeds to list like a murderers. He was like Mike Tyson. Bill Cosby. O.J. Simpson. Harvey Weinstein. I was like, yeah. I don't have to yell at yourself here, but okay. True.

32:33Yeah. True. And there were, I think, some other mentions of RFK Jr. in there, too, just exhibiting there was some sort of relationship there, and they had spent some time together, which, again, I mean, he has acknowledged in the past. He's acknowledged it openly. Here's another one that is newly significant. So here's a little photo of Brett Ratner, who is the director of the Melania movie. And so here's a photo of him with a, we'll just say, a girl of indeterminate age. This person says teenage girl. We don't have a way to know that specifically. But then here he is at the Melania movie premiere.

33:07So, you know, I think a lot of people will look at this and feel like it's not an accident that you have so many people from the Epstein class who continue to be in powerful positions because that is the way this whole thing works. And for Trump, who is himself deeply implicated here, you know, he would be in a position to know some of who would also be swimming in these same circles. And Trump does like to have, you know, power over people, to have things that he can wield against them. So I don't think it's crazy to put those things together. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lamumba.

33:44It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated, and Black America was at a breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest.

34:27It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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36:29like for what they called it something. Morocco King Wedding was the title in the footage. So yeah, that's. Well, and here's the thing is Joe Biden is not in the files whatsoever. And, you know, I mean, Joe Biden is comparatively compared to Trump and Lutnik and these other characters and Bill Clinton at this point. He's not a wealthy guy, actually. And so it doesn't shock me in any way that he he actually isn't in the files. And so then one of the things that Trump defenders with regards to Epstein would always say, remember being on Piers Morgan's show and he said this to me, he was like, well, don't you think that if they had dirt on Trump, they would have released it like the Biden administration, what they wanted to defeat him.

37:10Sure. And I think what is very clear is that Biden had, you know, two thirds of his brain gone by the time he got into office. So I don't even know if he knew what was in there or was making the decisions or whatever. But this is where the deep state does come into play. Like a lot of the, you know, there were characters that were implicated. This was really not a partisan thing. Well, don't forget, Crystal, Biden's CIA director met with Jeffrey Epstein. Yes. Multiple times. The CIA director under, I mean, we had Kathy Rumler, the White House Obama counsel who had met with him. Put B12 up on the screen.

37:40Larry Summers, who's a friend of the Biden administration. Oh, Larry Summers, very influential. I mean, keep going. Steven Pink, you know, all of these people who are like left liberal centrist types. David Brooks, remember? You know, I mean, you've got all of these folks who were also in the, They had a lot to lose. So that's exactly the important point is, OK, you know, Biden not in there. Hillary was there. You know, Bill Clinton is in a lot of this stuff. Bill Richardson, who, you know, the former New Mexico. Didn't he run for president in 08? So, like, it's not like these folks were not in any way deeply connected.

38:11So, yes, it's not just about personality. It is a major deep state question. But I really want people to sit with and put B12 up on the screen because this is relevant, too. We've got a little I've got dinner with Schumer. Exactly. You know, presumably Chuck Schumer. I have dinner with Schumer tonight. Jeffrey Epstein, they're emailing to just daily, who is, you know, lost his job over. Yeah. And it's going to come up later in this as well. But in any case, high level financier who is very important to Jeffrey Epstein, keeping his banking relationships, et cetera. In any case, you know, I think people need to really on the on the Democratic side really need to understand that the Biden administration, they did have everything they needed to put out about Trump.

38:55Like, I mean, there's no guarantees that would have kept him from making a comeback. But if they were really so committed to keeping him out of the White House again, this stuff could have been surfaced. And, you know, we're not talking about autonomous tips like were these witnesses who had come forward under penalty of perjury and alleged heinous wrongdoing. Were they ever interviewed? Was that ever explored? Why wasn't any of this brought to light? And so I think it's very clear that they were more committed to protecting the Epstein class and these, you know, this grander, this broader power structure than they were defeating Donald Trump.

39:32And so that's something that, you know, people really need to take away from these revelations and what we see here. Some of the wilder pieces here put B10 up on the screen. So obviously the, you know, Petto Island that Jeffrey Epstein owned was technically part of the Virgin Islands. And so we've got some details here about the way that he was buying off the politicians here. This is Lee Fong pulled this one. just released DOJ doc shows informant claimed that Epstein used a dark money group to wire $380 ,000 to the 2018 campaign of Albert Bryan, now the sitting governor of the Virgin Islands.

40:08Bryan is the governor who fired the local attorney general leading Epstein-related investigation. Soghar, that is something that we covered pretty extensively at the time. Yes, that's right. That investigation is super important. It was completely ended. In fact, actually, in this DOJ release, if anybody's interested, you can go and read the original suit by the U.S. Virgin Islands against J.P. Morgan. I'm halfway through it so far, but some of this stuff is very important. But the point also is, you know, everyone likes to focus on Trump and Clinton. I get it. They're presidents, but it's like the lower level stuff, which is also equally important, not just Schumer, Senate majority leader, but yes, the U.S.

40:40Virgin Islands, like basically controlling this. At one point in the emails that Ryan and I were going through, I found a script that Epstein had written that Clinton was supposed to deliver like as a campaign ad for the U.S. Virgin Islands. I could never confirm if it was ever delivered or not. It was a radio spot back in the mid-2000s. I couldn't find whether it is, but I was like, oh, wow. So this guy is trying to get Clinton to intervene in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Obviously, he needs a lot of jurisdictional help here to keep the authorities, let's say, off of his back. He's bringing a lot of money in here, making it a little bit of a party island.

41:12There's also Stacey Plaskett. Let's go B-11, please. Another important one. Remember that we released previously that footage of Stacey Plaskett actually texting him while she was on in Congress, like at a hearing. Again, Lee flags this one. She went to the Epstein Island 2014, previously worked for the fixer in the Virgin Islands who accompanied her to the island. Quote, I believe Plaskett is the only sitting member of Congress to visit the island so far. And also just happens to be the only sitting member of Congress of where the island was. This is why this stuff is so important. And so I think, you know, to your point that we're trying to put together is, yeah, you know, look right now, the Republicans are in power.

41:49So obviously that's the story, but the story about the Epstein class is one of a nexus of power and of influence. We talked about Bill Burns, Kathy Rumler, uh, Reid Hoffman. We're going to about to talk about in the billionaire, you know, literally the single largest donor to the democratic party, uh, back in the, in the Kamala Harris campaign. Right. So these people, like when you, and I think this is where, you know, by PayPal, PayPal mafia, deeply, deeply implicated, but you know, you can see for all of these people are, by the way, the Tish, You know, we're going to talk about that, too. Like these a lot of these people are Democrats or connected, you know, right now to the New York City power elite.

42:23Like you can't whenever you're sitting atop that somebody like Biden and you have this like nexus underneath you of the Podestas and the, you know, the Clintons and everybody else who are all part of it. Even if you yourself are not implicated, it can seriously have a deep rupture, especially, you know, in the deep state. And then beyond that, there's the Israel angle, which we'll talk about with Intel. But I mean, that beyond more than anything, the intelligence, if you are one of these people now trying to claim that he's not connected to intelligence, like I don't you you're like you are ignoring this blatant evidence in front of you.

42:57There's some really interesting stuff we're going to get there's nothing. You cannot deny it. Like it's not especially if you combine it with all the totality of everything that we had going forward. Like we basically have everything that we possibly need. I mean, more than we have on like Lee Harvey Oswald, to be honest, you know, at this point. So that's I just ask everybody to keep keep that in mind whenever we're going through this. Yes. All that being said, I will say, though, Trump is not only the president of the United States right now. He was particularly close with Epstein for years in New York and down in Palm Beach.

43:33And so, you know, I think he or someone like something closely affiliated with him, like Mar-a-Laga or whatever, were mentioned more than 35 ,000 times in this release. He himself was named, I think it was like 5 ,000 times just in this release. So, I mean, of everybody who's implicated, he is at another level in terms of the level of connectivity that he had directly to Epstein and Maxwell and this whole disgusting, depraved world. Welcome to the A-Building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated. And Black America was at a breaking point.

44:16rioting and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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45:44When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness. Mind Games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits.

46:24He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all? NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Another person who was quite a focus of this release is Elon Musk. Now, Elon is an interesting character, isn't he? Richest man on the planet. You'll recall when he was having a falling out with Trump, he put out on Twitter, X whatever, he was like, you know, Trump is in the Epstein files. That's not why they're being released. And I guess he would be somewhat in a position to know because it turns out he is also in the Epstein files.

47:05Now, he had claimed that there's that infamous photo of him and Ghislaine Maxwell. And he claimed she had photobombed him. And so this was not his fault that they're in this picture together. It was just happenstance. They happen to be the same place, same time. You know, bad luck for him. He had also claimed that he had been invited to the island, but he refused. On principle, in all caps, he refused to go. Well, let's go ahead and take a look at some of the email exchanges here between Elon and Jeffrey Epstein and see if they back up his accounting here. So Elon Musk, who claims to have refused Epstein's invite to the island, wrote an email to Epstein released by DOJ.

47:40Do you have any parties planned? I've been working at the edge of sanity this year. And so once my kids head home after Christmas, I really want to hit the party scene in St. Bart's or elsewhere and let loose. The invitation is much appreciated, but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for. I want you to understand something. This email asking about party experience, you know, to let loose and do not want a peaceful island experience. This was sent at 6 a.m. on Christmas morning. Okay, the concept of emailing Jeffrey Epstein in this manner on Christmas morning while your kids are there is crazy.

48:23and Epstein replies, understood, I will see you on St. Bart. The ratio on my island might make Tallulah uncomfortable. And that was Elon's wife at the time. This was sent in 2012. So a little bit of a different picture painted there. Let's put the next one up on the screen. Here's another Elon Musk exchange here. This is from 2013. So again, this is years after we know he's convicted, you know, sex criminal. So all is out about him. And you got a whole exchange back and forth here about when you're going to be there any day first through the eighth, play it by ear if you want. There's always space for you.

49:02Epstein says Elon says, OK, probably the first then Epstein says the second or the third would be perfect. I'll come and get you. Musk says I need to fly back to L.A. on the night of the second. So and then it just cuts off. And then and then Epstein says actually could fly back early on the 3rd, or I think that's Elon. We will be in St. Bart's. What should we head to? When should we head to your island on the 2nd? So hold back and forth about here's the time, always room for you. I'll accommodate whatever your schedule is, et cetera. Let's go ahead and put the next one up on the screen. This one is very, is just, I mean, this is the most Elon thing I've ever seen in my life, I think.

49:41So Epstein writes him and says, any plans for New York, the opening of the General Assembly of the UN has many interesting people coming to the house. Elon replies, I run and lead product design engineering for two complicated companies. Moreover, SpaceX is about to launch what is arguably the most advanced rocket in history. Flying to New York to see UN diplomats do nothing would be an unwise use of time. To which Jeffrey Epstein replies, do you think I am retarded? Just kidding. There is no one over 25 and all very cute. So Elon's autism here blocking him from being able to see like, dude, I'm not inviting you to New York for some freaking diplomatic meeting at the U.N.

50:24This is going to be a party with a bunch of young girls. And, you know, to get in fairness to Elon, we don't see any response here. So I don't I don't know if he yes. In this particular offer. Elon's reply has been that he was well aware that many of the emails and his correspondence could be misconstrued and be used by his detractors. So that is all that he has said now so far, used by detractors to smear him. I had very little correspondence with Epstein. I declined repeated invitations to go to his island, is what he said. So, well, not exactly 100 % clear. Well, we got one more here for Mr.

50:58Musk. Let's put C4 up on the screen. So Elon had sworn that Epstein had never toured SpaceX because that was an allegation that had come up before. Well, here we are. Here is Epstein saying, thanks for the tour. You would have had fun at Christmas. And Elon replies, I see. So in 2020, Elon said, to the best of our knowledge, Epstein never toured SpaceX. Don't know where that comes from. And here is Epstein seemingly, seemingly confirming that he did actually enjoy the tour of SpaceX that he had back in. This is 2013. So, again, years after many horrible things were known about him. Let's do the next one because this one is sick, shall we?

51:38OK, so C5. This is a Bill Gates one. All right. So this is this is really something. Epstein, apparently what's going on here. This is an email from Epstein to Epstein where he appears to be memorializing a fight, in the words of Robbie Starbeck, that he had with Bill Gates. And he says Bill Gates got STDs from Russian women and doesn't specifically say hookers and then asked Jeffrey for antibiotics that Bill could secretly give to his wife Melinda without her noticing. I'll allow you. I'll read a bit of this. It's very long. But in any case, he does talk about this alleged alleged situation involving Russians and that he Gates, he claims, came to him and asked for antibiotics.

52:24He says to add insult to the injury, you then implore me to please delete the emails regarding your STD, your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis. You also made it clear to me that I am not to refer to blank, as that is another topic that must remain between the two of us. Okay. In return for all of these requests, which I would have done without a second thought, I am not to attend meetings with Melinda. I should continue to provide you the same level of service and dedication I have done so diligently until you are ready to discard me and our friendship.

52:55Okay. So not only is the, and we've talked about Bill Gates before. It is known he had a friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, Melinda Gates has come forward and said, yes, this is part of what ended our marriage because I thought this man was disgusting from the moment that I met him. I told my then husband that he really should not be spending time with this individual at all. He persisted nevertheless. And so, you know, that I don't she she says that's not the whole reason that the marriage is over. But, yes, that was a part of the reason. The other thing that's interesting about this outside of the like disturbing, salacious part and the whole idea of like slipping your wife antibiotics because you got some STD from whoever.

53:36The other part, though, is you can see the level of controlling and manipulative behavior. I mean, this is directly blackmail. That's what this is. I want to explain that. Yeah, go ahead. So having read so many of his emails, not just in the files, but remember in the hacked emails that Ryan and I had access to, he memorialized stuff to himself all the time. He was constantly sending himself drafts and other things with not always something as extraordinary as this, but Epstein was well within the practice. He would often have drafts of statements and other things that he was sending to himself.

54:08By the way, Bill Gates has said, quote, these claims are absolutely absurd and completely false. The only thing that these documents demonstrate is Epstein's frustration that he did not have an ongoing relationship with Gates and the lengths he would go to entrap and to defame. But at the very least, what we know previously is that their relationship centered around donor advised funds with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and also Bill's quest to try and win the Nobel Peace Prize, which is something he desperately wanted. This all traces back like more than a decade. But I think the important part is if you look at the email, you can see very clearly whether it's true or not.

54:42He was obviously trying to blackmail him. That was beyond what we said. And you can see, like, look, we don't know, but we – previously, like you said, the statements from Melinda Gates or reports from Melinda Gates' team about Gates' affairs previously while they were married. But it did seem pretty extraordinary for them to have their marriage blown up in particular over this Epstein thing. At least that's what it looked like at the time. You know, we can only speculate. But reading and looking at this, this is obviously, in my opinion, the most overt, you know, one of an actual like relationship.

55:17Some of the salacious, tawdry stuff that we allegedly had gotten up to. And then when you withdraw your support from me, I'm going to lash out. Now, was this email memo or whatever ever sent? Can't see. We don't know. It was ever confirmed. And what's accurate? I mean, that's also, this is Jeffrey Epstein. To Jeffrey Epstein. This is just his word to himself of his version of what he understands to have happened. But again, I can – yeah, of course. But I can just say he did draft himself these types of emails all the time, which he would often then use and forward to his legal team. Like when I read his correspondence, he would draft statements and questions and thoughts and concerns.

55:50There's always stream of consciousness exactly like this. And then he would forward it to somebody else. So I know based on his own record having read tens of thousands of the guy's emails that this does fit a pattern of the way that he would operate for stuff that he had previously done. Well, I mean, you think about it because we always were like, dude, you are like your wife doesn't want you to be around this man and you just can't stay away. Like, what is going on with that? And I think this gives you some insight because when he did try to pull away and, you know, and there was some financial relationship there, Epstein through looks like Epstein through a whole fit and was like, I'm going to blow up your spot.

56:25Like, I'm going to tell all of your dirtiest secrets that I know. And here's one of them. And there's one that's redacted here that we can't even tell what it is. And that's part of how he would keep people in. I mean, he was a master manipulator. There's no doubt about it. And so to the question of, you know, was he like compiling blackmail on various powerful people? I think it comes across pretty clearly in this in this particular email. Let's go and talk about Reid Hoffman, member of the PayPal mafia alongside Elon Musk. and he, you know, large, very large donor, one of the largest donors to the Democratic Party.

57:04We've got, let's put C7, or sorry, C6 up on the screen here. So Hoffman funds this MIT Media Lab. And this reporter, she's like a right-wing reporter, but in any case, they hosted a conference called Forbidden Research. And at that conference, they had proposed child-sized sex robots. And these emails confirm that they had considered inviting Jeffrey Epstein to this forbidden research conference. You see them saying, you know, Reid will be there, presumably Reid Hoffman, too. I can drag interesting people over to the House for meetings with you, me, and Reid. And Epstein is inquiring about the date.

57:48The dates are then put in there so that, you know, this reporter is able to confirm, okay, yes, this is the one. the conference that I was able to report on. So you've got, that's a bit of a sort of, you know, it's a bit of a more tangential link to Reid Hoffman. But then if we put the next one up on the screen, we've got a bit of a back and forth here between Reid Hoffman and Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein is saying, come to the island, ranch, let's play. Hoffman says, probably not, China visits, et cetera, possibly next year. And he says, no, when are you back? Will you be in New York for General Assembly, Clinton, etc.

58:26This one, in fairness to read, it looks like he is declining the invitation to come to the island or the ranch to quote unquote play. There were other emails in here as well that show other coordinations of various trips, etc. that again, demonstrate a level of friendliness and interaction and visits, etc. that are very different from what Reid had previously, you know, what he, how he has tried to present his relationship. I mean, when one of them, they go, Reid will spend the night at 71st Street of referring to the Manhattan mansion. Yeah. I mean, it's bad, bad. Look, Reid, by the way, has, uh, has, uh, put out a statement.

59:04Let's go and put C8, please up on the screen. Hoffman says, fixed your headline. LinkedIn founder, Reid Hoffman exonerated by Trump's FBI newly released docs, release all the files and prosecute the abusers. He's saying here previously. And he has noted specifically some of the other people who are named in the FBI file. But he said he regrets his relationship there previously with Epstein. But you can see pretty clearly, you know, close enough, just like with Bill Clinton and others, to have a pretty close association to be invited and to have been hobnobbing here with the global and the financial elite.

59:38And that was in response to a New York Post article that put all this together from the one that you said about Reid will spend the night at 71st. There was also apparently a 2014 scheduling memo listing a variety of dinners and parties, as well as the line Jeffrey will have Joy Ito and Reid Hoffman will go to the ranch for the weekend. J.E. did not give exact dates. An email Epstein Pender's assistant under the heading Trip to the Island States, Reid will take a Virgin America flight from SFO to Fort Lauderdale, departing at 820, landing at 440. In 2023, Hoffman visited Epstein's former Caribbean private island, also known as Pedophile Island, the Post previously reported.

1:00:14So in any case, and there was some also some exchange where like his passport ended up in Epstein goodie bag. Anyway, there were visits. There was a relationship there for sure that, again, is very different than what had been portrayed. And actually, the New York Times had a great rundown. Go ahead and put C14 up on the screen here. They did a deep dive into a bunch of the characters who said that they were not close to Epstein and really had nothing to do with him. We already showed you Howard Lutnick. Oh, my God. I was so disgusted and repulsed by him. Elon Musk. I refused the invites. Kathy Rumler said, oh, we just had this professional relationship.

1:00:55You've also got Richard Branson. Andrew Farkas. He's another – oh, he's a big Cuomo donor. That's his deal. I think another finance guy. Peter Thiel we're going to get to. Steve Tisch we're going to get to. And Leon Black, we actually, Leon escaped this particular. Well, I mean, he only escaped this one because we already had everything we needed. He's already taken the full L here, so we didn't do another dive into Mr. Leon Black. We don't need to continue to go on Leon. Let's do Richard Branson quickly. Let's do C9 just to show people. The famous British billionaire told Epstein to, quote, bring his harem the next time they met as he gave him PR advice after the conviction for procuring a minor for prostitution.

1:01:35Steve's NFL fans. This one is the biggest NFL story that's come out so far. Let's go to the next one. So the emails show, this is by, in my opinion, actually the worst exchange between any of the billionaires, because you can see here clearly, Tisch received scouting reports on women from Epstein. And the two men discussed whether the women were, quote, pro or civilian or a working girl. And they were sent in 2013. So you can see here that the New York Giants chairman co-owner Steve Tisch, himself a billionaire who's related to multiple people who are currently in power, we're talking about multiple women and even referring to them as pro civilian and or working girls.

1:02:16So I'll let you surmise exactly what that means. To be clear, he denies any wrong. Here's his statement. I pulled it up. We had a brief association where I exchanged emails about adult women. And in addition, we discussed movies, philanthropy, and investments. I did not take him up on any of his invitations, never went to his island. And as we all know now, he was a terrible person and someone I deeply regret associating with. The Tishes are one of the wealthiest families in the country. Extremely influential. You know, obviously he's part owner of the Giants, but also was a huge film producer.

1:02:47Wasn't he a producer like Morris Gump? Yeah. Like major film credits. And yeah, I mean, this is a very powerful, wealthy family. So not surprising to find one of them turning up in the mix here. Wouldn't be surprising to find more of them turning up. Oh, there's other mentions of NFL owners, but this was the worst one, in my opinion. What else do we have? We've got some Peter Thiel stuff here, I believe. We've got the Thiel one. This one has been reported out, but still noteworthy. Let's put C11, please. The quote we already knew. This is C11. Let's put this one up here on the screen. Introducing Thiel to the Kremlin.

1:03:25He's calling him Kremlin-hander, but I will return to Sergei Belkov, who makes a mention in the Intel block that we're about to do. But the introduction there, very important. Sergei is a former, went to FSB school in Russia, very connected person, who Epstein appears to have turned to on multiple occasions. Also, Jason Calacanis, can we put C13 up there on the screen? Jason Calacanis had previously said he barely knew Epstein. Their relationship was in the early 2000s. Despite corresponding warmly, quote, as pal in 2011, This is Jason from the All In podcast. Now he says he assumes he was a spy trying to compromise people, but you can see, hey, pal, running out to a kid's birthday party.

1:04:06We'll dig up our info. These are folks trying to build a business. They're making some sort of business connection there all the way back in 2011. But, of course, it is years after he previously said that he knew them. So there's a roundup there that billionaires are close to billionaire. I don't know Jason's net worth. but generally people who are powerful, famous, extremely rich. You can see, I mean, we even left people off the list. This is just from the Epstein Files release that we have now. Currently, there are many, many more. It's like Leon Black, Wexner. I mean, it goes without saying, obviously.

1:04:38That's an important part of the story. Man, there's a lot of Wexner stuff in there. I haven't fully worked through all of it yet, but I'm still tugging on some leads. From that New York Times article I had up earlier just to flesh out the Peter Thiel part because I do think that, you know, there was significant connectivity between the two. They write, early last year, the billionaire venture capitalist Peter Thiel wrote an essay for the Financial Times arguing Mr. Trump's re-election amount that closely guarded government secrets, including about Mr. Epstein's death, would finally come to light.

1:05:04In the months since, the scrutiny around Mr. Epstein instead revealed an investment firm co-founded by Mr. Thiel accepted $40 million from Mr. Epstein and that Mr. Epstein and Mr. Thiel corresponded for at least five years before Mr. Epstein's death. Visit me Caribbean. Mr. Epstein urged the tech billionaire in 2018. Jeremiah Hall, a spokesman for Mr. Teal, declined to comment on the relationship, but said that Mr. Teal never went to Epstein's Island. So there you go. But there was a direct financial relationship there and there was significant correspondence over five years, you know, long after the sex crimes conviction and basically leading up until his death.

1:05:42Yeah, and by the way, remember that the entire justification, let's say, from Leon Black is that he would turn to Epstein for tax advice. And then I just saw an email where somebody asked Epstein about the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. And he was like, hey, any good loopholes in here? He's like, no, they closed most of them. But he's offering surface-level advice on taxes that you would read from the New York Times. Like the idea that this is some sophisticated tax guru, it just doesn't show at all inside the email. So the justification from a lot of these billionaire guys was, oh, he's helping us save a hell of a lot of money via taxes.

1:06:20Again, very, very basic stuff. In another one, it was him sending an article to his accountants saying, hey, can we do this? Like whenever it comes to depreciating a private jet. That is not sophisticated. Like that is not somebody who is like some well-engineered person who's like helping all of these billionaires save things in very, very, very niche ways. That's not somebody who has to read an article and then send it to an accountant. Remember Leon paid him some$150 million supposedly for tax advice. So sorry, no evidence of that. That's actually a great point is we were sold this like, oh, well, he was this financial wizard.

1:06:57Not a scrap of it. Like just understanding all this complicated financial engineering. And so he was truly of immense benefit to these powerful billionaires and made himself indispensable. And you do not see that in these emails. No, you would see like sophisticated hedge, you know. I mean, I look again, I read through his original emails that we had access to. It was very basic stuff, like nothing. Yes, some sophisticated when I say sophisticated, like complicated financial instruments. But that's just stuff that all the wealthy people have access to. There was nothing about some ultra-proprietary hedge FX strategy or any of that that you would expect from a hedge fund which returns more than some of the best hedge funds in the world.

1:07:39So that narrative, at the very least, you could easily say, is not there. The billionaires used him because of his social connections and because of his connections to various foreign governments and people in power. That's it. That's what the emails do. That was a conspiracy. Right. Which is money-making. Which was money-making. I mean, he was getting transfers from the Rothschild family, from all these billions, multiple different banks, Hollywood, and all this. Remember, all those bank records still yet to be released. So that's another stuff that we still would like to see. But I do think it's important to say a lot of these guys will say, oh, well, he was a genius whenever it came to business.

1:08:09No, period, end of story. It was all because of the connections, which is the conspiracy. The stuff that they said backed it up doesn't exist. We haven't seen a single part of it. And some sort of alleged financial strategy, tax strategy, zero evidence of that. Now, so far.

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