3/17/26: Trump Demands $100 Billion, Rachel Maddow Deranged Monologue, US World Order Collapse, Trump NatSec Resignation

23:48So speaking of the Dems. Yeah, right. Should we go take a look at their premier propaganda channel? So Rachel Maddow has she has figured this out. She has unlocked the mystery of why it is we're going to war, and it's because of these foreign countries manipulating the president and the way that Jared Kushner is in hock to them. Guess what country she does not name among the foreign countries that she believes are the reason, the primary reason, that we are now at war in Iran? I'll let you guess, and you can take a listen to what she has to say. Cui Bono, right? Who benefits? It's always useful to start that question in any country.

24:31who benefits, who wants Iran bombed off the map and for their own reasons? Who are Iran's rivals and enemies? Perennially, it's the Gulf Arab states, countries like Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates and Qatar. You know, Qatar, the country that just gave Donald Trump a really, really nice$400 million plane, really a gilded flying palace for his own use, both during the presidency, during his presidency and after Trump plans to take that plane with him and keep using it after he leaves office, if he ever leaves office. And you remember the United Arab Emirates, famous for recently structuring a totally pointless crypto financial transaction so that$2 billion of it would be stuffed into the Trump family's otherwise worthless brand new crypto financial firm.

25:26And of course, you remember the Saudis who stuffed another$2 billion into the pockets of Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, just as Trump's first term in office came to a close. You might remember enough people were alarmed about that when it happened, that the Trump folks actually sort of bothered to come up with an excuse for what made that OK. They said, don't worry, Jared will never again work for the U.S. government. He's never coming back to Washington. So it's OK that he's taken all this money from the Saudis now. We will never have to worry about having somebody involved in U.S. policy who has also just been given billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia, apparently for no reason.

26:05Well, that was the explanation when he took all that money from the Saudis at the end of Trump's first term. And now today, who has been leading the negotiations on behalf of the United States government with Iran before we just started this war with them today? I mean, Secretary of State Marco Rubio was in St. Kitts this week. It wasn't him. No, it was Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, recently paid billions of dollars by Iran's chief rival and nevertheless sitting there alongside Trump's tiny real estate friend, Steve Whitcoff, who has sought recently to improve his considerable family fortunes by going to Qatar to seek money from its sovereign wealth fund.

26:48weird that those talks didn't work, right? I mean, how insane is it at the beginning when she's like, who benefits? Who wants to see Iran bombed? Who constantly hates Iran? And you're like, I know, I know, I know. How about the country run by the guy who said this is his dream for 40 years? How about that? How about Israel? And oh, Qatar, Saudi. And look, I think like there is a point about the Saudis in particular, regional rivals with Iran, Sunni versus Shia, all of that. There's some reporting suggested Saudis were in on this war too. Okay. Miriam Adelson gave Trump a hundred million. If you're going to talk about the corruption here, gave him a hundred million dollars for his campaign.

27:30How is that not anywhere in your little listicle here? Like it is crazy to me. It's the second time she's done this too. This is like, she's all in on it. This is her new Russiagate. This is, and there will, I, you know, don't watch any cable news very often, but I'm sure there will be others at the network who take up this line because they realize, you know, she's setting the tone. She's like the quarterback of the network. She sets the tone for what are the acceptable things to talk about and what rates and where is the narrative going? And I'm just going to say, I, even with the Democratic base who, you know, probably continues to love Rachel Maddow, like this is not going to work.

28:08The views on Israel and the overwhelming view that it was Israel and Trump trying to cover up the Epstein files that effectively got us into this war and run, that is going to persist among the Democratic base and the broader public, regardless of the way that Rachel Maddow tries to shape this propaganda effort. But that is, it was wild to see her go down that list and then just leave Israel off entirely. I'm watching it. I'm like, is this willful at this point? Like, are you and obviously I think the only answer is yes. This is the only NBC News approved way of being able to talk about corruption and why we got into the war in the first place.

28:44You know, every once in a while they'll have somebody on their network who tells the truth. But be honest. I mean, take a look at CNN, at MSNBC and Fox. How often do they talk about Israel in a way that tells the truth about how they dragged us into this war? Yes, with Trump. Yes, with Trump. But do they talk about the 40 year commitment? Do they do hear any of that type of criticism? The closest we got was Laura Ingram talking to Ted Cruz, asking if it was weird how tied in Lindsey Graham was in with Mossad. But even then, she still supports the war. Right. That is about as close as I have seen so far.

29:18There's been no CNN panels, no MSNBC panel, no gas, almost nothing really that actually goes after the true reasons for this. So that's part of the reason why when you look at public sentiment to first of all, it's crazy how enough people are still even with all this overwhelming propaganda are like, yeah, no, we're not doing this. But second, why the boomers are still where they are right now. They literally just don't have the information like period. Well, it's also why Trita Parsi is such an important media figure because they have him on MSNBC. They have him on CNN. And he's one of the few people that they have on who actually understands the world and tells the truth about what's going on here.

29:52But in terms of basically the only group in the country, not basically, literally the only group in the country that still supports Israel the way they used to is boomer Republicans. The Democratic base has completely—I mean, it's gone. It is done. It is over. And independence overwhelmingly as well. We can put this up on the screen, guys, from NBC News. It shows you the way that views on Israel have shifted just between 2023 and 2026. So in three years' time, okay, back in 2023, when you ask people, are your views of Israel positive or negative? Overall, 47 % said positive and only 24 % said negative.

30:33Now, the overall numbers, okay, this is not just Democrats, this is overall in the whole country, 32 % have a positive view of Israel and 39 % have a negative view. So the plurality of the country now has a negative view and then 30 % are neutral or don't know. With Democrats, only 13 % still have a positive view of Israel, 57%. So a strong, almost super majority of Democratic base voters have an actively negative view of Israel. Back just three years ago in 2023, it was evenly split, 34 to 35 in terms of views. Independents, only 21 percent have a positive view of Israel. The only partisan group that continues to have a net favorable view are Republicans.

31:26Even there, there's been some decline. So back in 2023, 63 percent of Republicans had a positive view of Israel. Now it's down to 54 percent, still a majority, but you can see the bleed among younger Republicans. And as I said before, if you do the age breakdown, it is boomer Republicans who are still like, you know, holding the flame, still still, you know, carrying the torch for Israel the way that they used to. But, you know, I think this is important not only because of the the news propaganda piece, but I really think this plays into the way Israel is thinking right now and part of why they're behaving in such a psychotic manner.

32:06I mean, they have that in them, but why they're lashing out in this extraordinarily aggressive way in Lebanon, in, you know, getting their puppet government in Syria, obviously in Iran, in the West Bank, in Gaza. It's because they know their political clock is ticking, that the lockstep support that they have had from both Democrats and Republicans is over. They've got their guy in the White House right now. They need to go for it all, the whole thing, right now, because there are going to be no guarantees for them in the future. You're exactly right. The actual generational shifts in this, this is part of the reason why Israel wanted to go for broke now.

32:42They want to become the global superpower, the regional power that they've wanted to for many decades. They want to shed the United States, destabilize the Gulf, basically call the shots for America and for the rest of the world. But, you know, look, it's going to be up to the future generations of America. It's not just about our security relationship with Israel. It's going to be our security relationship with the whole world as to whether all of this is working out. So I don't know. I hope it works out better. I really do. We have Glenn Deason standing by. Let's get to it. All right, guys, for more analysis on the Iran war from a global perspective, we are joined for the first time, and I'm excited about this, by Glenn Deason.

33:18He's host of the Glenn Deason YouTube channel, which Sagar and I both watch quite routinely. He's also a professor of Russian international affairs, focuses on geoeconomics, conservatism, and the Greater Eurasia Initiative. Great to see you, Glenn. Good to see you. Thank you so much for the invitation. I'm a great fan of both of you. Well, thank you. It's certainly mutual. I just want to start with your top-line view of this war, what it's about, and how it's going so far. Well, I think it was quite evident that this war was always about regime change. And I think what we often underestimated was that regime change in Iran might also entail the destruction or balkanization of Iran.

33:58And I think this is quite evident because when everyone speaks of regime change, there is no replacement government in the rear, which can simply be put in with legitimacy. So either this would have to be, you know, the Shah 2.0, you know, rule with brutality, or the country would then just disintegrate into civil war between different factions. So I see this, I think this is important because it explains that this is not just a threat to the government of Iran, but also the country. So once Iran sees this as an existential threat, it shouldn't be any surprise that it reacts in this way, which is why many of my guests, both Americans and Iranians on the podcast, kind of predicted this well before the invasion, that if they're attacked, they will close the Strait of Hormuz rather quickly and just begin to attack all American bases in the entire region because this is a fight for survival.

34:51And I think this is one thing we left out when we saw this war as simply being about helping protesters and liberating girls. Because if this was simply the case, the Iranians wouldn't see this as an existential threat and they wouldn't respond in this way. So I think this is just escalating more and more. And we're getting into some very dangerous territory, especially with the potential of the destruction of Karg Island. I think that's when all bets are off. Glenn, I'm really curious, actually, for your view of the bigger geopolitical implications. So obviously you're an expert with Russia and with Ukraine.

35:27You've been analyzing this war now for years. Now, we have watched, actually, oil climb to high prices. The Kremlin has been able to get some sanctions taken off their oil. They're massively enriching their war machine. I just saw that the, I think it's the Belgian prime minister came out yesterday and said, maybe we should normalize relations with Russia. This is already having huge ripple effects across the globe. Tell us how you see that. Well, this is part of the problem with the Iran war. That is, for four years, we tried to knock out Russia from the ranks of great powers, and it failed. Right.

36:04And especially when Trump took over a year ago, if we couldn't do it with the Americans, we can't do it without them. And nonetheless, the Europeans tried to keep it going. So the US is still involved, of course, with the intelligence, the targeting, logistics, also selling the weapons instead of necessarily providing them for free. But the idea for Europe was if we just keep it going for a bit longer, then perhaps something would happen in Russia. Now, of course, the Iran war has major implications for the Ukraine war. The Ukraine war was already going very poorly. That is, there's a massive manpower shortage.

36:41So the Ukrainians don't have enough men. the US doesn't have that much weapon to send anymore. So it's a weapon shortage. And also, there's an economic problem. So you end up with this situation where the Europeans want to buy weapons with money they don't have to buy American weapons, which don't exist to arm Ukrainian soldiers, which also don't exist anymore. So it was always a huge problem. But now, of course, with the Iran war also entering, then there's even less weapons coming from the US. And the Europeans, they are, well, the energy prices are now going from bad to worse, and they're preparing themselves for a complete economic meltdown.

37:18So it's not ideal to keep this war going. So I think there's some voices now who would like to see an end to the war. The problem is that the Europeans locked themselves into narratives of simply an opportunistic Russia wanting territory. They never recognized that this was an existential threat for Russia, which meant every time we escalated, the Russians would just respond in turn. So it's a little bit like the problem with Iran. We don't recognize the security concerns of our opponents, so we misjudged their policies and how they would respond to ours. One of the rationales that has been offered sort of after the fact of why this war is happening, why this war is actually a smart strategic play for the U.S., is that since China gets a lot of their oil for Iran, this is going to be damaging to China.

38:04What do you think is the Chinese perspective of the Iran war and the likely impact on that country? Well, they do get oil from Iran, so they don't care for any disruptions. And of course, if the U.S. will be successful in regime changing Iran, either put in a government loyal to the U.S. or the country disintegrates or turns into chaos, it would be bad for Iran. Sorry, for China. But, you know, it can also go the other way. That is, if the United States now fails in this war, which seems more likely that it will, and part of the objectives of the Iranians is to expel the Americans from the regions, that is, to not just destroy bases, but also make the Gulf states reach the conclusion that they will have more security without hosting U.S.

38:50bases, then suddenly the U.S. is no longer a key security provider in the Middle East. if it's not a key security provider, then some of the foundation of the petrodollar goes away. Why would they still then trade only in dollars, especially when in new economic centers of power? And then if all of these petrodollars aren't recycled into the US, what would happen with the AI tech bubble, which is in direct competition or in the AI competition with the Chinese? So there's a lot of things that can go wrong for the United States in this competition with China. But of course, if the US could seize control over these natural resources, again, this was very openly an objective in Venezuela to take control of it, make sure they don't link themselves too closely to Russia and China, but also in the Middle East, as Lindsey Graham suggested.

39:37We're going to make a ton of money here, and obviously from the energy going to whoever America wants to go to instead of China. So there is a lot more of a great power politics play going on here. And I think this is what ties the competition with China, Iran, Russia. We're living in a very historical time. We're seeing the end of the hegemonic era, which was established after the Cold War. And we're now seeing this transition into multipolarity. And at the moment, it's being pulled in both directions, which is a source of some of the more violent parts of our conflicts now. You know, one of the things I'm interested in, Glenn, here is to think, you know, we've talked here about China.

40:17but I'm also curious for your view as to how this will play out in terms of history. And so you talked there about the end of the hegemonic era. We talked to Yanis Varoufakis earlier, and he said, I would be hesitant to say that this would be the immediate death of the American empire and compare it, let's say, to a Suez moment for the British. However, as I said, even at the time of Suez, nobody was like, this is the end of the British empire. It's only in retrospect that we're able to look back and see that. If you had that lens on and you were looking with the Iran crisis, but all of these other things, what would the specific timeline and events that you would look for to say definitively this was the beginning of the end?

40:56Well, I also wouldn't go with the Suez Canal comparison because Britain had very different fundamentals than the United States. The U.S. is a massive power. It will remain so. Even if its economy would begin to collapse, it's going to recover. It's going to be a key player. So I wouldn't dismiss it as going simply disappearing. Britain could disappear, but that's not the case with the United States. But I think it's a longer transition, and it's worth keeping in mind what the world order signifies. That is, what are the basic rules, which depends on how security is created. When you have an international system with all these large powers competing against each other, then the question is, what creates security?

41:38Well, usually it would be a pursuit of indivisible security, because if countries compete, that is, if the United States builds the missiles, that's security for the US, but insecurity for China, and then China will respond, and we end up in this security competition. So usually, peace is created if you recognize the security concerns of your opponents, and you try to elevate the common security, that is, indivisible security. Well, after the Cold War, there was only one center of power, and the U.S. promoted a different approach to security, which was the hegemonic peace, which means you don't have to take into consideration other centers of power.

42:13You only have one power, which dominates. And indeed, the more the U.S. could dominate, the less any other countries, even coalitions, could aspire to challenge the U.S. This would be the source of security. So this was the liberal hegemon, one center of power. There's no more great power rivalry. and that hegemon is a liberal democracy, so it will try to transcend some of the uglier parts of former politics, so elevate the role of democracy in human rights. This was the main idea. It would be a benign hegemon. But of course, the key problem is over time, the hegemon will always exhaust itself.

42:46As we've seen, it's more debt and also it depends on keeping other powers down. So eventually other centers of power would then figure out that they have to work together to balance the US. You see institutions such as BRICS, like why would Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and Iran, all these other countries suddenly have commonality? Well, of course, they want a different economic architecture, but they also want to balance the hegemonic aspirations of the United States. I think these are the wider trends happening. What I would look for would be some of the key crises we had. For example, the attempt to break China.

43:27This was a key part of trying to restore hedge money, but it doesn't work. The Chinese are not just an industrial power, they're also a high-tech power. If anything, they can use their AI more to be implemented within industrial capacity, so they have more ability to make some revenue of their AI. We saw then with Russia, the objective under the Biden administration was to use the Ukrainians to try to knock out Russia, and then the US could focus on China. It didn't work. So Trump then instead tried to get Russia on our side of the ledger by improving relations. And to some extent, the same applies for Iran.

44:11The assumption if you can knock out Iran, you take out an important player at the southern end of the Eurasian continent. The problem is all of this tends to backfire. That is, if one goes after Russia, it will align itself closer with China. Now, the attempt to defeat the Iranians, they will link themselves closer to both Russia and China. And ideally, at some point, I think the United States will reach the conclusion what many people thought was America first, which is if the US just pulls back a bit, just aspires to aspire to be one among many great powers, it will be able to restore its domestic strength.

44:51And suddenly, if it doesn't have that big footprint on the Eurasian continent, then the Europeans, the Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese would begin soft balancing each other at least. But we're not quite there yet. I think there's still this effort by the United States to restore its hegemony. But I think that the defeat in the Ukraine war and now likely defeat in the Iran war will more or less put an end to this. My last question for you, Glenn, is we had Trit Parsi on and he said, you know, from the Israeli perspective, they feel that this war is going great, that this is all going exactly the way that they want it to go.

45:28They finally succeeded in getting a U.S. president to launch the war they've been pushing for years and years. Of course, blame still lies with Trump, but no doubt Netanyahu and others allied with him were making the case and that ended up being persuasive to Trump. Do you view it that way? And how do you see the interests of Israel diverging from the interests of the United States? Well, the Israelis aren't that different from the Europeans in this regard, because the Europeans also think that what's missing with the United States is not the capabilities. They still believe the United States has these infinite resources and capabilities to essentially defeat whoever they want.

46:02So the Europeans wanted simply if America, we can bring them back into the war against Russia, then more directly, then we will win. And Israel is more or less thought the same. That is, if we can just get the United States to attack Iran, yes, it might not succeed with the regime change, but in another long war, over time, the Iranians will be weakened, and hopefully the government can be toppled, and even possibly the country could be balkanized. So getting finally a US president after all these years, and they have talked about this war for many decades now. There's this opportunity, as long as the US kept in the war, that they can knock out Iran eventually.

46:40Maybe not now, maybe in five years. But I guess here's where Israel and the US begin to diverge. That is, it's not in United States interest, especially this critical time in history, because as I said, the world is becoming multipolar. That's just a reality in terms of the international distribution of power, which means the US has to make priorities. And those priorities, as the national security strategy outlined, is to focus on the Western hemisphere and East Asia. That's where America's peer competitor is, which means if you pivot to somewhere, you have to pivot away from somewhere. And that would be pivot away from Europe and the Middle East.

47:16And this is the key problem. This is why Trump has made a mistake, because the longer he remains in Europe, that absorbs American resources, but it also pushes the Russians further to China. and also in the Middle East. The longer it stays in Iran, the more it's going to divert its focus away from East Asia. Indeed, the U.S. had to pull out its THAAD missiles and Patriots from South Korea to send to the Middle East. The whole point of pivoting to Asia was supposed to go the other way. The weapons were supposed to be pulled out of Europe and the Middle East and sent to East Asia. So we're seeing everything going in reverse.

47:51And this was not in the strategic interest of Trump. this is not what the security strategy indicated. They were supposed to do the opposite. But now, of course, one year later, the US is still involved in the war in Europe and they're also now doubling down in the Middle East. So I think this is a strategic mistake for the United States. The fact that they most likely won't win this either makes it even worse. So no, I think you're going to see this expressed more now in terms of divergence in the US. How do you view Israel? what is America first? Is it the partnership with Israel or putting America before Israel?

48:27I think you're going to see more splits there now. And that's reflected in how the strategic interest of America is changing. Absolutely. Glenn, you are such a great guest. We can't wait to have you back. And everybody go subscribe to Glenn's channel. He does such incredible interviews. We're going to have a link down in the description. And we really hope that people go watch his content as well. So thank you very much, Glenn. We appreciate you. Thank you so much. iVeem is built for losing weight and moving forward. iVeem is built for feeling your best and seeing results. iVeem is a medical weight loss program built for you.

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51:23Huge breaking news that we're going to have to add here at the end of the show. We can go ahead and put this up here on the screen. Joe Kent, who is currently serving as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, has resigned from his position effective immediately. Let me go ahead and read some of his letter, which is genuinely shocking. President Trump, after much reflection, I have decided to resign from my position as the director of National Counterterrorism Center, effective today. I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our country.

51:56It is clear we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. I support the values and the foreign policies that you campaigned on. Until June of 2025, you understood that wars in the Middle East were a trap that robbed America of the precious lives of our patriots and depleted the wealth and prosperity of our nation. Early in this administration, high-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your America First platform, sowed pro-war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran. The echo chamber was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posed an imminent threat to the United States and that you should strike now.

52:37There was a clear path to a swift victory. This was a lie and is the same tactic the Israelis used to draw us into the disastrous Iraq war that cost our nation the lives of thousands of our best men and women. We cannot make this mistake again. as a veteran who deployed to combat 11 times, a gold star husband who lost my beloved wife Shannon in a war manufactured by Israel. I cannot support sending the next generation off to fight and die in a war that serves no benefit to the American people, nor justifies the cost of American lives. I pray that you will reflect upon what we're doing in Iran, who we are doing it for.

53:10The time for bold action is now. You can reverse course and chart a new path for our nation, or you can allow us to slip forward further towards decline and chaos. You hold the cards. It was an honor to serve in your administration and to serve our great nation. Absolutely stunning news. Let's just dissect it a couple of different ways. Number one, this is the national director of counterterrorism. Highest security clearance in the entire United States government. Israel, or sorry, in Iran, pose no threat to the United States. Number one. Number two, Israel is the person manipulating intelligence.

53:44Israel pro-war lobby. Those are the people who convinced you in order to go into war with this, into war with Iran. This is one of the most shocking resignations of the entire Trump administration. I think it might be the first like real big one of somebody who was aligned with the America First movement. And let's consider the consequences here. They are going to try and destroy this man. I guarantee you they will try to indict him. They're going to say he breached his security clearance by sharing information. He was never a real patriot. He was somebody, you know, a snake, something like that, anti-Semite.

54:21The full stop of the pro-war machine and the U.S. government are going to destroy this man. Just watch and wait. And especially if he starts going on the podcast circuit and talking, do not forget that this is somebody who deployed to combat multiple times, special operations background, gold star husband. doesn't matter. They're going to do everything that they possibly can. But this should be wall-to-wall news. We never even really had high-profile resignations like this under Iraq. And I mean, I think the fact that you have a high, high-level security official with the top security clearance saying this is Israel's war, that they manipulated the intelligence, that you're making a huge mistake, that they pose no imminent threat to the United States, You have to ask seriously how about how all of the lies have been told by this White House.

55:10And I think second, what did he know to have to resign at this point? He knew no end in sight. Yeah. That's why he decided to do it now. So it is a stunning development to see right now. Yeah. And I mean, just so people know, I don't know if you've been following this guy. Joe Kent ran for Congress as a hardcore Trump loyalist. America first. There was a controversy where he was like affiliated with Nick Fuentes, griper types and had to disavow them. He was a stop the steal guy. He was like a January 6th truther. Like that's the type of milieu that he's in. So hardcore supporter of Trump. He was a Tulsi ally, which I think is also an interesting piece of this internally, because apparently Tulsi in the lead up to the first Iran war, the 12 day war, was, you know, arguing against it and making her case fairly forcefully.

55:59ends up getting completely sidelined. They joke about her as DNI standing for do not invite, gets completely sidelined. Now she's sent out to do a bunch of election nonsense in Fulton County, Puerto Rico, whatever. She's no longer part of the Iran war deliberations. And so in any case, Joe is one of her allies internally in the administration. So to see him resign in this very critical and public fashion, I mean, it's hugely noteworthy. And Sagar, I'd be, you know, interested to get your perspective on, you know, the historic comparisons to Vietnam, you know, sort of similarly timed concerns about wars in the past and how this stacks up against them.

56:40I will say, you know, similar to the Tucker Carlson line about, oh, it's all Israel's fault and Trump, you're getting tricked and blah, blah, blah. I just I have little patience for this argument that the president of the United States, who has can staff his administration however he wants can listen to whoever he wants. He can listen to Lindsey Graham or he can listen to Joe Kent or, you know, he can listen to Tucker Carlson or he can listen to Ted Cruz like he gets to choose what direction he wants to go in. I really chafe at the notion that it's he's just being tricked and manipulated and he's you know, it's it's really not his fault.

57:17It's all the Israelis. Yes, the Israelis wanted this war. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Israelis have wanted this war for 40 years. And every president up until now has, including Trump, has said no to engaging in this aggressive hot war against Iran. So that is the one piece that just when I see it framed in the way that he frames it, it really, you know, I just chafe against that. I understand your point, but don't forget, he's trying to admit to do things. This is a real political statement because he wants to try and have, and he's going to get the narrative, which he wants, which is that a member of the administration is resigning in protest.

57:49Look, I mean, he said all the Israel stuff. He also resigned and basically implied that this is on Donald Trump, right? This is a different thing than saying it internally. This is somebody who is putting, I mean, literally, like, possibly his life on the line. And I don't mean just, like, his actual safety. I'm talking about, remember this, with this administration, FBI is going to be up his ass. They're going to be doing any potential investigation. The entire Zionist media is going to destroy this man. They, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets magically audited by the IRS. Like, I really am not going to put any of that out of line.

58:24The first man on the line, he is like, look, Vietnam, remember this, nobody at this high profile ever resigned over Vietnam this early on. They said it internally, and it's very clear that he probably tried. I would put this in a totally different category. This is a person with a ton to lose. He's not rich. He doesn't have a lot of resources. This is somebody who genuinely has a lot to lose out of this one, and he's putting it all out there. No, that is absolutely fair. I just get so sick of people treating Trump like he's just a child being manipulated and being tricked into various things. And he's always blameless, et cetera.

58:58But the import of it and the risk that he's taking here is genuinely heroic. I cannot even describe to you like in this environment where we have the FCC, you have Cash Patel, Keystone Cash, Pam Bondi, these people. You think Trump is going to take this line down? The full force of the United States government is coming after this man. And he's served 11 tours in combat. And he said, no, I can't support this. He's one of the only people who's not full of shit. Remember yesterday when I said, it's time to resign. And that's the call now from Joe Kent. So if you're listening to this magically, if you're not Joe Kent or if you're any of these other people, there's only one person who can't resign.

59:37It's the vice president. Everybody else, you're appointed and you serve either the pleasure of the president or of your own accord. It is time to go. It is time to create the situation that people were not courageous enough to do after Iraq, to stand up in front of the American people and say, this is a bullshit. And, oh, that's why the war continued on. Don't forget, Colin Powell, he dissented. Yeah, oh, it took years for him to get out. And then, oh, what, two to three years later, we learn about all this stuff that he did inside the admin. But at the time when it mattered the most, when he could have resigned and used his immense prestige, he did nothing about it.

1:00:13He went and did that U.N. speech. Yes. And, yeah, and, you know, tarnished his reputation forever and actually made the case for the war. Well, I am wondering if he will be, you know, a one-off. And you're right that the administration will do everything they can to smear him and make his life absolutely miserable to try to guarantee that he's a one-off. or if this starts a chain of resignations of, you know, effectively fleeing the sinking ship, right? Looking at this and going, this is a disaster. You've already got one guy who's taking this step. You know, maybe this is the move that I need to make as well.

1:00:48And if he can do it and he can speak out and he can survive, maybe that's the right move for me to find the exit. So in the coming days and weeks, that will be the thing to watch, whether this is one guy and it's a flash in the pan and they do everything they can to make him miserable and destroy him and everybody else takes that as like a cautionary tale and is like, I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut, or whether this opens up the dam, opens up the floodgates and others start to leave. I don't think a dam is going to break. I do think it takes somebody of immense principle to have to speak out on something like this because you just have too much to lose.

1:01:25I mean, your whole family literally, Literally, your entire well-being is at risk. Financially, you could go to prison. You have no idea. And I wouldn't put any of it past this government. And that's why, if you look at Iraq and at Vietnam, the dissenters were all internal. They didn't start speaking out until 1969. Some of these people, this is the time to actually try to do something about it. And what Joe has done correctly is that now Trump has to be asked about it. Now, every member of the White House, of the administration, is going to be asked about it. oh my god Tulsi I would not want to be her uh because they were allies right they were good friends uh any of the people who were friends with Joe Kent the witch hunt uh that's going to happen if unfortunately I hate to say it this will probably work out net net for the Zionists inside the government because they're going to say that anybody who dissented is disloyal to you and they're going to use them as an example so the truth is is that internally this is probably going to empower all of the Zionists in the pro-war lobby but the only check that we really have on our government is the people, is the democracy and the press at this current time before an election.

1:02:30And it's actually really incumbent on everyone to make this a big story. This guy resigned over the war. He said it's a lie. He said that everything they're telling us is a lie. And that's the only way to create an immense pressure cycle on the Trump administration. Although I wouldn't put it past our mainstream media, you know, who largely support the war to try and, I don't know, what are they going to say? He's a groiper. He sucks or something. I can see it already. Yeah. Well, he's given them some things to work with there. Okay, look, Joe has said a lot of things. In fairness. Over the years, I wouldn't have done them.

1:03:03We run in some of the same circles in terms of the anti-war movement. And I can just tell you, there were a lot of people who feel this way in the Pentagon, in the White House, all across the government. He's the only one who actually did anything about it. Or at least he's the first one to actually do anything about it. And that wipes away a lot of sins in my book. All right, we will see you all later. Thank you guys so much for watching. Appreciate it. Ryan and Emily on tomorrow. They'll see you then.

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