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24:43He doesn't have to raise money. He doesn't have to do that. He doesn't have to do that. Exactly. Right. So, yeah. The other insidious part of this is that what he's saying there and what people understand is that he's like, no, no, I'm not telling them what to say. I'm hiring people, the unspoken part, who are already saying nice things about me to continue to say nice things about me. And what and that's the insidious part is that it then encourages countless influencers besides the ones that he has hired to just voluntarily say nice things about Steyer with a pick me. Kind of a money grab. Come pay me.

25:17Like, please pay me and I'll keep doing this. Right. So the whole thing's gross. But so let's talk about Steve Hilton for a second. So he's the Republican who's hoping. Oh, wait. Yes. Yes. Steve Hilton. So he's hoping that he's going to like crack into the top two here. He's got this Chad Bianco opponent who's trailing him. Let's roll this clip from Steve Hilton, kind of encouraging Bianco supporters to get behind him. It's a very, very tight race. Three people competing for two spots in the general election. Myself, Javier Becerra, and Tom Steyer. Tom Steyer is catching up. there is absolutely no guarantee that we're going to get a Republican in the top two.

26:03In fact, it's now looking more and more likely that we'll have two Democrats in the top two. I know that many Republicans were holding on to the hope that we might have two Republicans in the top two, myself and Chad, and then we're guaranteed change in California. But if that was ever possible, it's certainly not possible today. You just have to look at the math. This is not personal. It's not about me or Chad or our qualities or our record or anything like that. It's about the future of California. And if we don't get a Republican in the top two, we have no chance for change. So this is because of the jungle primary system.

26:41Bianco's got about 10%, as we showed a little bit earlier. If that were to combine with Hilton, then he would be the winner, or at least, you know, he'd get to the top two. Right. And, you know, there was a lot of fear from Democrats early on in this race that we would actually have two Republicans because you have pretty much eight viable Democrats at one point that were running and two viable Republicans. And you do the math. And if it was an even split among the Republicans, it would be hard for Democrats to unless they consolidate the field on their own. But when Trump endorsed Steve Hilton, that was the end of the race for the Republicans.

27:17essentially. Trump endorses Steve Hilton. Bianco falls down. And now there's no way to box out the Democrats. Got it. And at that point, it was, you know, I mean, Steve Hilton's talking about, I think it is important for other reasons that, you know, from a Republican perspective, they get in the top two. There's a billionaire tax on the ballot in November. And that's going to be bad for turnout. That's good. There are a lot of contested seats in the House in November. That's going to be bad for them if they have no standard bear at the top of the ticket. That is a very important point, is that they'll have even less incentive to come out to vote if there's not a single Republican in the top two.

27:58Absolutely. And so it is important from that perspective for the party, but there's no way that a Steve Hilton wins a one-on-one matchup against Becerra. It's like a kiss of death. So why hasn't Bianco dropped out and endorsed Hilton? What's going on? I mean, Bianco's kind of in his own world. And he's not going to. Like today's election day. Well, and the thing is, even if you dropped out now, he'd still be on the ballot. There are 61 gubernatorial candidates on the ballot. It runs over two pages of the ballot. One of the sort of hidden things here, I think, is there's going to be a lot of ballot spoilation.

28:40What does that mean? It means that people are either going to vote for nobody because they can't find their candidate among the 61 or they're on two pages. So like, oh, I'll vote for one here and I'll vote for one over here. And there's going to be undervotes and there's going to be overvotes and there's going to be a lot of ballots thrown out. Wow. The other thing that you're going to see as the numbers come in is Democrats held their ballots to a degree that was fairly unprecedented in Democrat politics. Everybody gets a ballot from the state by mail at the beginning of the cycle 30 days ago.

29:20Typically, they come back. Some come back early, some come back later. What we see, because we can track this, Democrats were not turning back their ballots because they wanted to wait to see where the polls were, who people were going towards. Because Democrats were still scared about a top two that locked out Democrats that would be Republican, Republican general election. And you can't do a write in ballot, by the way, in in under the top two system. So they were waiting to see what was going to happen. And in the last weekend, twice as many ballots as in the previous 25 days were sent in. Wow.

29:58Um, they're now, it's now tracking higher than the 2022 election, higher than the 2018 election, which was a contested, a gubernatorial primary at the top. So, um, so now we're starting to see, but however, the way the votes are going to be counted, we're going to count all those ballots that came in earlier, which were disproportionately Republican. So on, at, at, as votes, some of them before Trump's endorsement, some, no, not, not, they actually weren't. But so when the polls close tonight, Hilton's going to be the lead. Got it. But how long are we? How long is this going to take? Weeks. Ridiculous.

30:37OK, can we get it? Why? Why does this take so long? They're trying to streamline it. But well, I mean, actually, it's a very interesting thing because the Supreme Court kind of changed the game on this. It used to be that your ballot had to be postmarked. Right. By Election Day. And it would count. So some of those ballots come in five days, six days, seven days, ten days later, and you've got to count them. Now the Supreme Court ruled that actually the ballot has to show up on Election Day. And there was a lot of chatter among – in my circles, among Democrats. You actually have to send – you can't send your ballot through the mail after a week ago.

31:16Send it to the vote center. Send it to the ballot. Like go to the ballot box and then physically drop it in. So I think there's also going to be a lot of people who didn't learn that and their ballot isn't going to count. So there's like a lot of weird factors in this race. What do you think this is bullish for? If you like bullish for the last week? That's a good question. I mean, I think lower information voters who don't know where to find their guy on the ballot, who don't sort of follow directions very well and are marking multiple ballots or who don't understand. And like you could drop it in the mail and it just doesn't show up and you don't get counted.

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34:00What would you eat if you had to start over? Real simple, poor man's, poor woman's food. Black beans, chicken, rice, plantains. That's poor people's food, man. but being Nigerian, that's, come on, a go-to. On the podcast Eating While Broke, I sit down with celebrities, entrepreneurs, and creators as they revisit the meals they once relied on and the moments that shaped their journey. Named Best Food Podcast at the 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards, this show is all about real conversations on money, growth, and what it really takes to make it. It was times where me and Lex were like definitely getting into it because we're not making any money.

34:39Like, I need to start making money. Like, why are we doing this? But I don't know. I think we just always knew that we had something really good. And eventually people were going to catch on. And so we just thugged it out. The full season is available to binge right now. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I wanted to get your sense on a couple of the California house races. First of all, for people who don't know, New Jersey, Adam Hamaway versus Sue Altman. That's kind of the biggest kind of house race being watched.

35:17The Montana race, too. Yeah, Montana. Forsteg. Forsteg has AOC's endorsement, but probably splits the progressive vote and loses. It's going to be interesting. Put up E7 here. We have a whole bunch of different races, house races. You've got San Francisco. we got shortcut chakrabarty scott weiner and connie chan yeah um quick quickly on that one um how do you see how do you see that one well i was up aoc's former chief of staff connie chan has uh is progressive but has nancy pelosi's endorsement shifts endorsement um and so people like i i went up there and actually talked all three of them uh for a piece did a few weeks ago, that was at a time when Chan was hoping that labor was going to drag her across the finish line to get into second place.

36:13She was being massively outspent. I think Chakrabarty has put 10 million in his own money and Wiener has about 4 million plus a lot of super PAC support. But in the last few weeks, when Pelosi endorsed, that was a signal, right? You guys can come in. And she's gotten, you've reported on some of the super PAC help that she's gotten. I think it's more that there's San Francisco is a city of neighborhoods. And she, you know, is big in the Richmond, a sort of more working class, somewhat more conservative, even though she's running as a progressive. and Asian-American, heavily Asian-American. It's hard to pull.

36:59So she's kind of been neck and neck with Chakrabarty for second place. Everyone believes Wiener's going to get to the runoff. I think she has actually a pretty good shot of getting in second. I think so, too. And we reported over the weekend that one of these super PACs backing her, that network, had gotten APAC money. Right. And it's created this big controversy. It's not just her race. There are actually three races in California that have gotten money from the EDW fund. Is the other one Randy Villegas? One of them is Randy Villegas, where Jasmine Baines. So this is a really interesting race because there are only three people on the ballot.

37:35So two of those three are getting in. One is the incumbent, David Valdeo. This is a swing seat, but it's a weird swing seat. It's not a swing seat. Like Bakersfield, right? Yes, it's Central Valley. It's one of the poorest seats in the entire country. It's one of the highest concentrations of Medicaid in the entire country. Valdeo famously voted, said he would not vote for Medicaid cuts and then did vote for Medicaid cuts. So he's in huge trouble in this race. And it's 73 percent Hispanic. Democrats have never run a Hispanic candidate in this race, which is crazy, right? Because they love identity politics.

38:13Right. Except here. So Villegas is one, but he's progressive populist endorsed by Bernie. And Denny Pollack's unless you're a populist. Right. Yeah. And Jasmeet Baines is Indian American. She's a conservative member of the state assembly. She's voted in. She voted against Prop 50, which is crazy. She voted against, you know, the the offset of the Texas gerrymander. But she also has voted substantively in a host of ways with corporate interests. She actually has received corporate PAC money from this from 53 of the same PACs that Valadeo has received corporate PAC money from. And so this is a support of Washington Democrats like the D triple C.

38:57DCCC came in, put her on the Red to Blue program. That incensed locals in the district who actually had been, you know, sort of the local Democratic clubs and stuff, had been on Villegas' side. So this is a real soul of the party race. I think it's one of the most interesting races on the ballot. who can win in a swing seat, but a very particular kind of swing seat. Is it a progressive populace who can grow the base and who can speak to the actual depravity that is going on in the district? Or is it the usual find a moderate, find a corporate Democrat and win? And this is a fascinating race where Jasmine Baines had said that Israel was committing a genocide in Gaza.

39:40And then the DCCC and Democratic majority for Israel come in to support her. And She's like, oh, I misheard the question. I don't mean that. Did I say genocide? I forgot. It's not as if she doesn't know what a genocide is. She famously sponsored a resolution in California declaring the massacre of like 30 ,000 to 50 ,000 Sikhs in India to be a genocide. Right. Yeah. So that's a genocide. Right. Interesting. But multiples of that. Then we've got Amar Kampanajar. He probably. I did this is so this race I have some connection to because I spend part of my year in in Palm Springs and in Prop 50. They changed the district.

40:24So this was Daryl Isis district. It was based in San Diego. So in the gerrymander, they took a little sliver and went up to Palm Springs and made that part of the district, which is a Democratic vote sink. So I was there in the last week and I saw no evidence that there was an election going on. Uh, all of the candidates are from the San Diego part of the district. The Democrats, I was at multiple events where, you know, people who are Democrats, uh, are, are all over the place and a Democrat should be there to try to get votes in the last week before the election. And they, no one was there and nothing, uh, uh, was, was involved.

41:04The only person, uh, you know, it was about half dozen Democrats running the only one with any connection to Palm Springs. His only previous race was for Lieutenant Governor of Vermont. So not much connection to the Democratic part of the district. And, you know, Kampanajar, it's kind of a comical story. Every two years he runs. He runs in a different way. He's the boyfriend of Sarah Jacobs. Sarah Jacobs' family, heir to the Qualcomm fortune, has put together a huge super PAC on his behalf. That's very nice. That's very sweet. They're not even married. There is a very strong possibility that the top two Republicans that we are fear that, you know, Democrats are fearing in the in the gubernatorial race, that that happens in this race.

41:50There are two Republicans running and about seven or eight Democrats. And this is one of the five seats that under Prop 50 Democrats thought they were going to pick up. And when ISA dropped out, they thought even more so. But Democrats found or Republicans found a viable alternative, a city councilor from or a county supervisor in San Diego named Jim Desmond. And he's going to be a tough out even if if a Democrat makes the top two. And then, you know, there's this dynamic where they might actually split the vote and not succeed. Number one hits, millions of records sold, awards, sold out tours.

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43:58What would you eat if you had to start over? Real simple, poor man's, poor woman's food. Black beans, chicken, rice, plantains. Yeah. That's poor people's food, man. But being Nigerian, that's, come on, a go-to. On the podcast Eating While Broke, I sit down with celebrities, entrepreneurs, and creators as they revisit the meals they once relied on and the moments that shaped their journey. named Best Food Podcast at the 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. This show is all about real conversations on money, growth, and what it really takes to make it. It was times where me and Lex were like definitely get into it because we're not making any money.

44:37Like I need to start making money. Like why are we doing this? But I don't know. I think we just always knew that we had something really good and eventually people were going to catch on. And so we just thugged it out. The full season is available to binge right now. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we got to go to L.A. Mayor while we still have you. All right, let's do this all quickly. We can start. We have some of the closing ads from the major candidates here. We've got Spencer Pratt, the online sensation.

45:12Let's take a listen. I want to speak to those of you who are considering voting for Nithya Raman but haven't yet. Obviously, you and I are in the same place. We all agree that Karen Bass has failed the city as mayor and we need change. What's Karen Bass not doing? And for a moment, you thought Nithya would be an alternative. But since she collapsed at the debate, I don't, I'm not sure how to respond. And she's run a very weak campaign. She's doing live streams with the hateful, radical anti-Semite Hassan Piker, who believes we deserve 9-11. You've accepted the reality that she's not going to advance past the runoff.

45:47At this point, voting for Nithya is a wasted vote. It's me versus Karen. It's change versus more of the same. More homeless drug addicts in front of your schools. More animals being tortured and killed on the streets and in her city shelters. More empty reservoirs when the wildfires hit. More potholes. More of your favorite restaurants going out of business. No new housing getting built. You can either vote for me to change all that insanity, or you can see Karen Bass visit more destruction on our city, and you can watch your social group erode as your friends move to Nashville or Miami or Austin.

46:18It's no longer a question about me or Nithya or Karen. Nithya has no path to victory now. She talks about the city being broken, but she's been in city leadership for six years and failed to do anything. She is incredibly unpopular in her own district. She's not managed to accomplish anything in city council. And she's been the chair of the Homelessness and Housing Committee for years. She's literally the one in charge of homelessness in LA. How's she doing, folks? Look around. All of us know Nithya doesn't have it in her. interesting, you know, Spencer Pratt there basically trying to pitch to the leftists who would support Nitya Raman, but also going after Hassan Piker.

46:54Not really a strategy I would go with for the DSA crowd. To try to get on the street. Yeah, no, exactly. He should be like, you know, just don't vote for her because we all hate Karen Bass. And this is a message for that. So, I mean, what do you make? You know, you live in the area, the Pratt phenomenon, which you're saying is entirely online. I'm inclined to believe you, but tell us about it. I feel it's a pretty online phenomenon. I mean, I think that Californians or Los Angelinos are definitely dissatisfied with Karen Bass. And when the race was setting up, it looked like nobody sort of viable was going to challenge her.

47:34Pratt has sort of leveraged the online stuff. And Raman was not expected to run. She actually it was a surprise run at the very last minute about, you know, an hour before the registration closed. Wow. She comes in and decides to run. And she's you know, she was the first candidate of DSA to win a city council district. She beats a sort of middle of the road guy in that district. But she is sort of broken with DSA on certain issues, particularly around housing. but other issues as well. Interesting. And she didn't get their endorsement, but I think DSA said they'd recommend her. There is actually a DSA member who is running, a woman named Rae Huang, who Raman has sort of behind the scenes been trying to push out of the race.

48:28She's asked her to get out of the race. But she's refusing to do so. Yeah, no, Huang is still in the race. So I feel like strategically Basically, there are a lot of Democrats thinking, OK, Bass, you know, is an incumbent. She's she's damaged goods, but she's probably going to get into the runoff. So I'm sitting here. My choices are either Spencer Pratt or Nithya Raman. So we can have the conversation of who would be better for California and Los Angeles later. And we vote for Raman there. The latest poll actually shows it almost a three way tie. Interesting. Bass at, I think, 26, Rahman at 25, and Pratt at 22.

49:12That's the last major poll I saw. It'd be funny if strategic voting ended up pushing Bass to third. Yeah, it'd be funny. With a bunch of Bass supporters end up voting for Rahman. It could happen. Are there Republican districts that creep into L.A.? Because if there's two Democrats on the mayor's ballot, that also diminishes. Los Angeles is a big, I mean, in terms of when you're thinking about it, it's not just the city itself, but actually parts of the San Fernando Valley, which are more conservative. 30 % of LA voted for Trump. Like, I feel like that's totally lost in some of this discussion.

49:45They're like, oh my gosh, 30 % support Trump. I'm like, yeah, there's Republicans in Los Angeles. It's not 100 % Democratic. Particularly, I mean, when you talk about the San Fernando Valley, it's like basically suburban. So that area, you do have pockets of Republican support. That makes sense. So if two Dems make the L.A. runoff, that's like and also two Dems in the gubernatorial. That's even more so for particularly for the last for the billionaire tax in particular. That that would be a major factor. And it could very well happen. I mean, you know, I think there's a perspective when you think about national politics that, you know, this race, I've seen it compared to the New York City mayor's race.

50:28Like you have an Indian American, you know, Democratic socialist going up against an ossified kind of leader who hasn't been very effective. That's not how it's playing out. If there were any Zoran of the race, it would be Spencer. However. But yeah, I mean, I would in terms of his ability with national profile in terms of his ability to get attention and things like Raman has has run. You know, she wasn't well known, particularly to the very Democratic communities on the west side. She's from Hollywood area and she's run a fairly dispirited race. Like, I haven't seen a big groundswell support.

51:09I've seen more of that groundswell in specific city council races where DSA is going up against incumbents rather than with the mayor's race itself. We have some of her last pitch. Let's take a listen. This city is a beacon of hope and opportunity for so many around the world. But today, Angelenos are losing hope. High housing costs, job loss, tens of thousands of people living on the streets, the terror of ICE, and a complete lack of preparation for emergencies. We have a mayor who has failed to leave this city. And on the other hand, a right-wing extremist powered by MAGA is channeling people's frustrations about this city into fear and anger and hatred.

51:51They're relying on your indifference. We can bring LA back to what it really is, one of the most creative, most beautiful, most hopeful places in the world, but only if we come together and fight for it. Every single vote matters on June 2nd, because this city's future is absolutely worth fighting for. And I know, I know, we can build that future together.

52:19Why would they zoom out on that crowd? It's like the smallest crowd ever. 50 people can't be wrong. It's like campaign 101, man. All right. I mean, in terms of what I'm looking at right now, odds, et cetera, it does look like it might be Pratt or Pratt Bass. But you seem to think that there's a decent enough shot of her. I think there's a decent shot that she advances. It's it's a difficult race. I mean, I think Los Angeles is going through problems that are beyond the political system. Hollywood collapsing. Yeah. This is an industry town where the industry is gone. It's basically a Rust Belt community.

52:54If you think about it in that sense. But like in an ongoing sense. Yeah. I mean, I know so many people. I came from doing TV production. I know so many people have just left or gotten into another job. Then why does your real estate market keep going up? Well, it's a different issue. I mean, there's still a sort of storehouse of wealth, but there isn't the sort of middle class wealth that came not just from Hollywood, but also from aerospace, which those factories have closed, too. I mean, that's more historical and goes back 40, 50, 60 years. But more recently, runaway production and sort of the end of peak TV has made it really difficult for Los Angeles to maintain.

53:38Homeless population is actually down in Bass's four-year term. But the Palisades fire has become this huge avatar for her. And the inability to rebuild after that has been really debilitating. I mean, it's fair. I think it's fair. It's definitely a fair. Last thing here, closing message from Karen Bash. She was doing an interview. Let's take a listen. Well, I think for the undecided voters to understand that they have a choice to make. And that choice is a reality TV villain? Really? How did that work for us on a national level? That's one choice. The other choice is a city council person who's been in city hall twice as long as I have.

54:17To me, that's one of the most important issues in our city is people feeling safe. You can't feel safe that there's an encampment there. It's not safe for the people in the encampment, and it's not safe for the people around. How do you do business? Yeah, I mean, a little Prattian rhetoric there. I don't really, I mean, I don't know what's going on with this whole thing. But look, I don't get it, David. I think there's a through line. It looks like she's going to win. I think there's a through line with Bass and Becerra, actually. And it's a certain style of political leadership that you see in California that they don't get really tested in very many races.

54:55They're kind of anointed. They're moved through the system. And, you know, not having being effective is not a hindrance to moving up through the institution. It's a classic machine problem. That's a real problem, I think, in California politics. And why I think you're seeing most Democrats, I think, just sort of underwhelmed by the choices in front of them and really despairing of what they have to deal with. Now, I would say that Steyer is actually speaking to some of the real issues in the state. He's talking about Prop 13 and how that has created this historical underfunding problem, particularly for local communities.

55:42So he's talking about changing the commercial property valuations. He's talking about health care becoming too expensive and needing to move to a single payer system. He's talking about some of the things that historically, I think, would help Democrats actually move into a better place. But yeah, I think there's a larger problem in California where, you know, not knowing anything is not a development that is going to be a problem for you in politics. And that's, I think, the larger thing that we're going to see play out today. If people talk about breaking up California just to get some extra senators, break it up because it's kind of a failed experiment.

56:26Start over. Break it up. I like it. I like it, Ryan. I like this idea. I mean, it's sad because, you know, you have the master plan of education. You have real advances in the environmental sector and renewable energy. You have the fact of non-compete agreements creating a burgeoning amount of innovation from Silicon Valley. There are the elements here for really an incredible continuing series of innovation and change and a sort of way in which California can lead the way. It's just its political system is kind of inert. Sad. Very sad, even though it is the most, in my opinion, the most beautiful state.

57:09Quite beautiful. All right. Thank you so much, David, for joining us. We appreciate your time, man. It really was great to do a deep dive into all this. We have a big audience in California, so they'll be happy that we finally spent a lot of time on it. Thanks, man. Appreciate your time. Thanks. Thank you very much, Ryan. Appreciate you, man. Dave. Yep. And you, Dave, who's still here. We were pretending that he's not, but it's okay. I've just been here the whole time. It's TV magic. They'll be Ryan and Emily on tomorrow, so they'll see you then.

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