6/22/26: Mythos AI Hacked NSA In Hours, Trump Reflecting Pool Meltdown, Zohran Vs AIPAC

22:19At the same time, chunks of floating pieces of the reflecting pool began to surface, and some of them were even being grabbed by individuals. We'll get to that here in a second. But in the interim, let's put E2 up here on the screen, the National Guard has now been deployed to the reflecting pool, which has now become actually, ironically, a tourist attraction because so many people are going to the reflecting pool to try and to grab pieces out of it. This is, is that a pink, I don't even know what that is, a pink dinosaur. It was a frog. Yeah, here we have, you can see some imagery of that piece, the sealant, the blue sealant, which had floated up to the surface.

23:02And now several people have been, or at least no, one person has been arrested. Trump is claiming that several people have, many people going down there, news organizations kind of sticking underwater cameras in. You could see the crew here pouring the hydrogen peroxide, the bleach, some of the chemicals. You had guys in like, you know, those what are those like waiter pants that like fly fishermen wear?

23:23Jeremy Scahill:This baby duck you died because of the chemicals. Yes. Yeah. A small duckling appears to have died as a result of all of this. Just a reminder about how Trump was talking about the reflecting pool earlier about how strong it'll be. Let's take a listen. This will last for at least 50 years. You'll never have a leak. It's very strong. You couldn't, if you had a knife, I don't want to give anybody ideas. If you had a knife, you can't even cut it. So strong, so powerful, powerful rubber. It is beautiful, sealed. And I looked at just one of the little pieces that they did to finish. It's like a piece of glass.

23:56Beautiful color, beautiful everything. You could never get anything like that. Beautiful piece of glass. You can't even cut. So strong, so powerful.

24:04Jeremy Scahill:You're going to be on a knife. You couldn't get it. You know, the funny thing is, I've lived here for 16 years. The reflecting pool was a shithole my entire time here in Washington. Nobody cared. Nobody. It was full of duck shit. It was awful. Idiot college students like yours truly would sometimes go down there and, you know, do bad things to the reflecting pool at night. It is what I hope there's a statue. What did you do to the reflecting pool? Do you remember that Mentos Diet Coke challenge thing? Yeah. Back, so that was very popular when I was a freshman in college. We would do that all the time down there.

24:38This is the type of stupidity that we would get up to.

24:41Jeremy Scahill:It's very innocent, soccer, actually. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was 18 years old, all right, you know? There might be a few cigarettes that were thrown around there. That's about it. But, yeah, that's what we would do when we were in college. Again, I hope there's a statute of limitations on damage to the reflecting pool. I think it was like, yeah. National Guard's going to be showing up at your door. It's been a while. It's been 16 years. I hope there's a statute of limitations. Anyway, it's been a dump. Nobody particularly cared. Trump made a huge show about redoing the reflecting pool. I was like, okay, sure.

25:13The reflecting pool has always sucked. That's fine. Fine with me. And then, of course, he put the blue sealant. I was very skeptical, as it was. But I was like, okay, the finished product. Yeah, it looks good. Great. And then the problem is the reflecting pool has been green many times. There's always been duck crap, whatever. and all that. Again, nobody thought two seconds about it. But by making such a big show about it, by spending all this money on it, it has now turned into a national story in which you have to spend, what is it, $13 million, then drain the pool and the bleach, and now everybody's showing photos of the little duckling that died, which is tragic.

25:52It's true. It is deeply tragic. But it's like, you know, nobody would have cared about this if you had just not touched it in the first place. And so that is ultimately, I think, one of the stories of Donald Trump.

26:03Jeremy Scahill:And it's also it's always very interesting to think about why something touches a cultural nerve, because like the ballroom definitely did. And I understand why it's because it's such a monument to his ego and narcissism. Yes. And it's also turning the president's house into his own personal. Yes. Monument. He's obsessed with it. It also, you know, so it ties into the fact that he is not focused on your financial condition, as he told you outright. Right. He's focused on this big monument to himself. You know, there's all kinds of, oh, we're going to get the donors in. No, actually, the taxpayer is going to have to fund it.

26:34Jeremy Scahill:So it becomes this emblem of who he is and the way he operates. And there is a little bit of that with the reflecting pool, too. It's like, OK, he identifies this thing. Yeah, it'd be great if the reflecting pool was nice. Sure. You know, I'm for beautification of the capital. I think it would be you know, I think that's lovely. But then he has to go about it in the dumbest and most narcissistic way. Right. He hires this contractor. We can put this up on the screen. I mean, Sagar thought this was AI. No, I actually thought it was AI. Griffin said this looks like a Soprano season five type of character.

27:04Jeremy Scahill:No, literally. Yeah. Literally does. This is the guy, he called him my pool guy. Okay, brings him in, no bid contract. Astronomical price,$13,$14 million to do this job. He has to have it done by his own birthday. So I think what clearly happened here is the process was rushed. Did not consult with any experts. Apparently the color that he wanted it to be was a problem because it's darker and algae that attracts more warmth. And of course the algae loves that. So it has to be a rush job. The sealant itself now obviously is like peeling off and people are grabbing pieces of it, etc. Very likely because it wasn't they didn't take the time to properly dry the whole thing out.

27:43Jeremy Scahill:It has to be completely dry, has to be primed and like cleaned extensively before you can do this. But since it had to be done by a certain time, they they rushed it. And now it's a complete disaster. So you take something that's real. OK, it'd be nice if the Capitol was more beautiful and we could be more proud of, you know, this and that. Sure. Take something and then do it in the worst, dumbest, most corrupt way and make everything way, way worse. And have the whole thing be about you, by the way. And now, sorry, to your point, all these right wingers are trying to gaslight because it is funny.

28:10Jeremy Scahill:You have all of these national reporters who are like going down with underwater cameras and doing. I mean, it's literally less than a mile away. I haven't been down to the National Mall in like a decade. When you live here and people come from out of town, they're like, oh, I want to see the mall. Go for it. But now I am kind of like, I do kind of look down there and see what's going on. Maybe it's time for a trip. Take the whole stroller down. All of these right-wingers are like, you guys care so much about this versus whatever their hobby horse of the day is. You're spending so much more time on this.

28:39Jeremy Scahill:It's like Trump is the one who made this a thing. OK? You were happy to talk all about, spend all types of time talking about it, thinking about it. that, what's his name, Braylon Hollyhan went down and did a whole thing about, you know, here's the beautiful reflecting pool, only Donald Trump magnificent could make this happen. So you people are the ones who made this a thing and now that it has gone sideways, you no longer want to talk about it anymore. You know, that's the thing. Capital beautification, I would love it. I actually think we should have city beautification. Like, there should be a national fund for exactly this type of stuff.

29:08I agree. I absolutely agree. The only problem is, you can't fully, have you seen the GWAP memorial? What happened? It's like a Mobius strip of glass for the global war on terror. It's beyond hideous. So my only thing is I don't fully trust these architectural review boards or these people who end up creating said memorials. We gotta try things. We gotta try things. Yeah, but it's like with the MLK, remember that MLK statue that came out a few years ago? Yeah, we all know. Don't forget. And the GWAT thing. I don't really trust the experts, but we also, you know, we should all agree, yes, with capital, not just capital beautification, with beautification of all of our national cities.

29:48I think that would be a great use of funds, actually, because it would make it so that our flagship cities are awesome places to live and to visit. I'm totally cool with that. What I'm not cool with is, even the current way it's going about, I'm not sure if you've seen, is Meridian Hill Park, and this is very Washington, which is here, I think it's also called Malcolm X Park, has this big fountain, which had not worked for several years. Trump got the fountain to work, And again, everyone's like, oh, my God, the fountain is working. It's awesome. And it is beautiful. But, you know, I found out the way that they're doing it is by siphoning those national park entrance fees.

30:24It's not been appropriated by Congress. So I'm like, hey, no. Like, you know, I went to a park recently. You know, you have paid$20 or whatever to get in. They're using that. They're siphoning fees off from the National Park Service for capital beautification, which, okay, like I wouldn't care necessarily. But in the way that the budget works, it actually shorts some of the budgets for some of the other national parks, which I don't want to short those. Those are awesome as well. Just as a Washington – honestly, I'd rather have Yosemite than whether the park – the fountain works or whatever in Malcolm X Park or Meridian Hill Park here in Washington.

30:59That just shows you the slap shot kind of way this is all going down. But yeah, nonetheless, like, you know, no one, no one would have cared about this if it wasn't for you. And so when you do a shitty job, yeah, it's going to turn it into a national story.

31:13Jeremy Scahill:Yeah. And the last thing, put E4 up on the screen. They actually arrested this dude, David Hearn. He's a former Olympian. Yeah. They're cleaning. Which I didn't know was a thing. What's that? I didn't even know Olympic canoeing was a thing. Oh, you didn't? No, he's a three-time canoeing. And he was on a bike ride. So very physically fit gentleman, apparently 67 years old, representing the U.S. in three Summer Olympics, accused of intentionally vandalizing the reflecting pool, was seen reaching into the reflecting pool. He denies vandalizing it. I'm a curious citizen. He told the AP, I reached down to see what it felt like.

31:45Jeremy Scahill:It was very rubbery. So now we've got a crackdown, authoritarian crackdown at the reflecting pool. you can look but you cannot touch if you put your hand into this thing that is supposed to be a public monument that we should have full access to then you may well be arrested like this individual or blasted from Trump on Truth Social etc. I love that he's come up with some Antifa plot to destroy the reflecting pool or whatever is what's going on here instead of his own foolish narcissistic incompetence and corruption this will be the new sandwich guy oh sorry E5 I do have to show everybody this one too this was a tweet from the uh u.s interior department that's was several days ago june 17 five days ago the advanced nano bubbler technology very effectively killed the allergy that has plagued every reflecting pool reopening most infamously obama's reopening since 1922 again i've lived here for a long time i do not remember the quote reopening of obama of the reflective pool the reflecting pool water is crystal clear our national park service team is now vacuuming up the dead algae resting on the bottom of the reflecting pool, just like the destroyed Iranian resting on the bottom of the Persian Gulf.

32:59Jeremy Scahill:A lot going on here. Five days later, by the way, five days later, Donald Trump announces, I must drain the reflecting pool. So by the way, when they drain it, then we're all going to see the amount of sealant and other stuff, which is broken up. I hate that I'm invested in this, but I am. I guess it's like the ballroom. I just got to surrender. I'm into it. I'm into it. I'm going to have to go. I'm taking the fam. We did the responsible thing. We put it towards the end of the show. I know. Okay. We led with the importance. Yeah. I hate to say it. I'm in. I'm in, guys. You got me. I'm into this.

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35:20Jeremy Scahill:We have Claire Valdez, who is running in a Brooklyn and Queens Center district. And we also have Daria Elisa Avila Chevalier, who is running in Northern Manhattan District, where I actually used to live. So know the area quite well. Great to see you, ladies. Great to see you. Thanks for having us. Thank you so much. Yeah, of course. So Claire, let me start with you and then Daria Elisa just also get your responsibility response. You know, how are you feeling going into Election Day? What do you see as the key issues coming down the stretch here? You know, I'm very excited. It's been a long campaign, but, you know, I think the stakes are really high tomorrow.

35:54The stakes are high for the entire working class. We have the chance to elect some really amazing Congress members who will be out in front, standing for the working class, fighting for a free Palestine, fighting for an affordable New York, and really doing incredible organizing in Congress, but on the ground here in New York City. So I'm excited. People are talking a lot about the cost of housing. My district in New York 7, it's Brooklyn and Queens. It's overwhelmingly a tenant district, and people are really feeling the crunch of rising rents. People are also outraged by the continuing genocide in Gaza.

36:30And so there are a lot of issues motivating people right now to go to the polls, and we'll see what happens tomorrow.

36:35Jeremy Scahill:Daryaliza, how about for you? Also feeling just incredible energy here on the ground. And it's just been just such a privilege and an honor to be able to build a campaign that is responsive to the working people of this district. I've had people thank us for running because this is the first time that they have felt in over 90 years that someone was fighting to actually represent the interests of the working people who live here. And I think for so many of us, we have been told that a politics of cynicism was all that could exist. and to be able to present a vision where we're fighting for housing for all that is actually deeply affordable and dignified for the people who live here, making sure that we're fighting to abolish ICE so that we don't have to live under the terror of this institution and to make sure that we are using our resources to invest our tax money in our babies here at home instead of on bombs abroad that are destroying communities.

37:24We need to be able to build affordability here in the city, and we do that by making sure that our children can lead dignified lives, making sure that we can have dignified homes, and making sure that we have pathways to citizenship for so many in this community who are just very fearful right now. Both of you, as well as Brad Lander, who's running the New York's 10th district, are kind of running on a Mayor Mamdani-backed slate in the city. And Mamdani is currently getting a lot of criticism for some comments that he made at a rally where he hit AIPAC for moving dark money into races behind vehicles that don't have AIPAC's name on them.

38:02I want to play those comments, then kind of get your reaction to it. Let's roll, Zoram Hamdani. For whom the only thing more frightening than democracy being allowed to run its course is an end to genocide and Netanyahu's wars.

38:22They move millions in dark money to accomplish a single goal, to preserve their power so that they can turn us against one another. instead of our leaders turning towards the moral change we all know to be necessary. In a politics that for too long has asked working people to lower their expectations, to settle for less, to become satisfied with small victories while our wages grow even smaller and our costs grow even larger. To resign ourselves to resignation, to accept the unacceptable. in the wealthiest city in the wealthiest country in the history of the world we need not live in fear of monsters any longer and for the context there he started that clip by referring to that famous grampsy line where they say the old world where he says the old world is dying the new has yet to be born in the middle is the time of monsters uh and so the critic criticism has been that he's calling a pack and and then replacing a pack with jewish new yorkers monsters who are moving dark money around.

39:28How has that affected the campaign? And can we get you to respond to that criticism? You know, I personally think it's bigger than just AIPAC. I think it's also a lot of money that's coming from corporations and right-wing lobbies that are having an outsized impact on our democracy and one where the only tool that we have as working people is to outorganize it. In my race in particular, there is over$7 million in outside spending being spent to smear me and deeply racist rhetoric. And my opponent has had folks, you know, surrogates go do media tours in the Dominican Republic to engage in a disinformation campaign that is not only just so deeply divisive and racist, but also one that has really continued more of the politics of cynicism that we are fighting against, where instead of talking about the fact that housing is unaffordable in this district, we're talking that they're talking about, you know, just disinformation about my identity and about where my family comes from, rather than talking about how we need to abolish ICE, how we need to invest our tax dollars in our children here, where we have a childhood poverty variable over 40 percent.

40:48They're forcing forcing our volunteers to have to engage in de-escalation because their camp is getting aggressive with folks. And, you know, I think it really is, it's really hard to see how so many people have come into this campaign because they're building a politics that invests in hope and invests in life and see them wanting to focus on that, but then having to question, can I stay on this corner and continue to canvass safely? And, you know, I think we're seeing a lot of what's appalling to me, a lot of MAGA style tactics coming from a Democratic incumbent that has been not only, you know, concerning for the safety of our volunteers, for the conversation that we're supposed to be having right now around affordability in the city, but also seeing the way that money is coming into this campaign to prevent folks from talking about the issues that actually impact the day-to-day lives that they lead here.

41:49Jeremy Scahill:Claire, let me get your reaction to Josh Gottheimer, if we can put F3 up on the screen. This is the flavor of criticism that Zoran, quote, received. He says, monsters, quote, dark money, a hidden hand turning us against one another. Swap APAC for Jews. And it's the oldest anti-Semitic conspiracy theory in the books. That's not criticizing a lobby. That's laundering anti-Semitism from your podium as mayor of a city with more than a million Jews. This bullshit is dangerous. Did you have any issue with the comments that Zoran made at that rally? And what is your response to Representative Gottheimer here?

42:25You know, what the mayor is talking about is super PACs, you know, cropping up at the 11th hour to dump millions and millions of dollars in not just these races, but in races across the country. That's that's what we're taking on right now. We're taking on corporate greed. We're taking on, you know, a lobby that has been upholding and supporting a genocide in Gaza now for two and a half years that has kept so many Democrats silent because they're worried about a donor base rather than worrying about human liberation and the dignity of human lives here in our communities and abroad. The mayor is calling that out.

43:00And I think we have to, you know, what we and I know Daria, Lisa and I have both experienced this is a profoundly undemocratic system in which the very wealthiest people, the most powerful corporations can dump money into these elections, smear candidates who are running grassroots campaigns like we are. and really turn the issues away from, again, the things that people really care about in these districts, housing, good union jobs, fighting for a Green New Deal, the things that really matter to people's lives, and instead turn these into campaigns that are about who has the most money. We're running really grassroots campaigns.

43:40My campaign has now knocked 300 ,000 doors across New York 7 with 4 ,000 volunteers. and we have to kind of, you know, take on these corporate interests that have derailed these campaigns and made them about things that are not relevant to our districts and really fight and center the working class again. And sorry, can I also just add, I think something that gets lost often is that AIPAC is a right-wing lobby. It backs Republicans, it backs Donald Trump, It is pushing us towards war that nobody in this country wants. And to have Democrats accept money from a right wing lobby is deeply concerning because how are we supposed to fight back against the fascism of Trump when we have a right wing lobby that is also funding Democrats and incumbents?

44:29And I think, you know, if we are serious about taking our democracy back, if we're serious about creating a democratic party that the working class can actually identify with again, then we have to call out the way that right wing lobbies are putting money into this election. And these and again, these are values that most Jewish New Yorkers here actually vehemently disagree with.

44:51Jeremy Scahill:That's a great point. yeah and and just just to be clear for the viewers gotheimer there was talking about apac moving dark money and particularly in dari alisa's district uh adrano espiot his supporters set up a pack called bold america pack which appeared to be linked to kind of bold pack which is related to the congressional hispanic caucus which he shares but then apac's super pack sent millions of dollars into that pack and then it's spent as if it was this other pack right so they are actively engaging in the politics of dark money and then objecting when it's called um dark money the other the other fissure that has really hit this campaign is is around kind of race and gentrification i'm curious for both of your reaction to this um particularly you know antonio reynoso your opponent um claire has been saying you know he doesn't even feel comfortable at dsa meetings because these are it's not representative of of the district and espyot has been gone gone his supporters have gone kind of way over the top compared to even that um but claire i'm just curious for taking how what what is the what is kind of what is your reaction to this claim that your support is really just organized around kind of gentrifiers i mean i think this movement is about bringing as many people as possible together to fight against bad landlords against our corporate oligarchy.

46:16And what unites us as working people in New York City is the fact that we have to pay high rent. We have long commutes. Our hours are long. Our wages are stagnant. And that affects everyone, no matter if you were born and raised here, if your family was raised here, or if you just arrived. And, you know, this politics of kind of divide and conquer the working class, we've experienced these before. You know, this is like boss 101. Our campaign is about centering the needs of working people in New York 7, who right now are really feeling the squeeze from all sides. That's why I'm not taking any money from real estate developers, for example, who have pushed so many people of our communities out, have raised our rents, have displaced so many, because I want to fight for tenants.

47:01I want to fight for the people who call these neighborhoods our home. And again, the difference that we're seeing right now is not like if you got here 40 years ago, if you just arrived, the difference is can you afford to live in these neighborhoods? And for so many people right now, the answer is just is no. So this campaign is, again, we're building a movement within this campaign to unite people across, you know, Brooklyn, Queens, to fight for an affordable New York, to fight for peace and security and dignity for the entire working class, whether you live in Ridgewood or Rafa. And that's something I'm incredibly proud of.

47:34Jeremy Scahill:And so just for the audience to understand the race dynamics a little bit more, Claire is running in a district. It's an open seat. Nydia Velasquez is retiring. Her opponent, her main opponent is Antonio Reynosa, who was endorsed by Nydia Velasquez. So that's an open seat. For Daria Liza, she's challenging a Democratic incumbent whose name is Adriano Espiot. And you've referenced a couple of times, Daria Liza, how he's using these sort of MAGA tactics, you know, making some ugly claims about your identity and your family. Can you just explain the dynamics there and your response to what he's been up to and what his campaign has been pushing?

48:12Yeah, absolutely. You know, we know that he has surrogates engaging in these smear campaigns in the Dominican Republic, spreading disinformation and just sowing deep division in this community. And, you know, to, you know, this question of like this gentrification question, where he is complaining about the changing demographics in this district without acknowledging that he has been in power, in political power, for over nine years in Congress, but almost 30 years, first in the state legislature and then in the federal government. And so I think it's very rich, actually, to hear someone who has held political power for this long then complain about the impact of his policies on the changing demographics in this district and the electorate.

48:59And I think what we're seeing right now is that citywide, people are struggling to afford to be able to stay here. And that is part of why I think the demographics are changing. And rather than addressing his record and his role in that change, he is now engaging in a smear campaign that's attacking not any policy that I have proposed, not my platform, but me as an individual, as a human being, where now we have, my team and I were dealing with an onslaught of degrading and dehumanizing rhetoric under all of my social media. We are facing, you know, a lot of verbal harassment every time we go out.

49:39And our volunteers who are just here to be part of their democracy are also having to, you know, think about how to be deescalatory. And I think, you know, it's just such a deep, deep affront to our democracy, right? To see that part of their own election, right, and make them fearful, you know, that is the antithesis of what a democracy is supposed to be. Daryl Lisa, the thing that your opponent has really been hitting you on is digging up some of your kind of older, more aggressive ultra tweets. And you've sort of apologized for some of them, explained some other ones. And I'm curious if, as you're running for office now, your politics are roughly the same as they were then, but you kind of regret some of the the phrasing that was that in a deep contextualized space is difficult for people who aren't as online to understand what's going on or if you or if your politics have evolved a bit over the past few years like how would you how would you describe yourself compared to your kind of previous self to voters you know my values have always been around human dignity around justice around accountability and i think what's changed is that i've just grown i've matured i've um my nuance and the number of these things has deepened.

51:01But my values are at their core still there. And I think the frustration that I felt when I said a lot of those things is something that is reflective of a failure of our larger systems, where so many people just feel deeply unheard and powerless to engage with our political system. And, you know, one of the things that I've been thinking a lot through this campaign is how, you know, his tactic has been to, well, one, decontextualize a lot of what I said, but also smear my character and myself as a person, right? Rather than focusing on his record and what he has done to this community and failed to do for this community.

51:46And it's more of that politics of distraction because he knows that he cannot answer to the very basic question that I have posed and I've had the audacity to ask for this campaign, which is what has improved for the lives of New Yorkers here in New York 13 in the nine years that he has been in Congress, because he can't answer that.

52:05Jeremy Scahill:Daria, Lisa, we have one of the images of one of the mailers that's going around that is based on one of those tweets. This is F4, guys, you can put this up on the screen. It has a picture of you. It says F Kamala Harris, a real quote from a tweet that she deleted. You were mentioning you felt that some of these sentiments were decontextualized. What was the context when you tweeted this? And how do you feel about that in retrospect? And did you vote for Kamala Harris? You know, how did you think about the dynamics of this past election? I did. You know, I, despite my criticisms, I, I'm one of those folks who has had to save the Democratic Party from itself, right?

52:44One of the many black and brown people, black and brown women in particular, who have deep criticisms of these social systems and yet have to come out and vote to save the Democratic Party from this fascism that we're facing with Trump. And in that, if I remember correctly, in that context, I was critical of the language that Vice President Harris was using to tell immigrants to not come into this country. and as someone who's been organizing for immigration justice for most of my adult life you know I just find it troubling when folks in power tell some of the most disempowered people in our society in in the planet right that they should not be working towards um or not be fighting to lead dignified lives for them and their children and you know I I do regret the tweet and I regret the language.

53:38I think especially running this campaign and seeing the type of language that people feel so comfortable using against me and against folks who are supporting me. I think we need to make sure that we are engaging and using language that people can actually hear and receive, right? Particularly when we have strong criticisms, particularly when the stakes are so high. and as an organizer it's deeply important to me that we are using language that is unifying that people can feel that they can be brought into even when they have to face the the hard music of accountability right and knowing that like our actions are sometimes fall short right and but that is what it means to be accountable is to be able to hear the criticism move different and move differently, right, and be responsive to community.

54:28And one of the things that has really been coming to mind a lot throughout this campaign is the focus on these tweets, right? And I will apologize for them as long as I have to, for folks to understand how deeply regretful I am. And I also have to ask, why is it that my opponent, whose policies, whose votes, whose record has harmed so much of our community still goes, why his accountability hasn't come. Why is it that he has not answered any of the questions that have been posed to him about his record on arming a country committing a genocide, on making sure that, or lacking the ability to make sure that our tax dollars actually come back home to address childhood poverty.

55:14The fact that he has taken hundreds of thousands from the corporate real estate developers that are pricing us out, while our living conditions are deeply undignified in this district. And so this question of accountability is deeply important to me because we deserve leadership that is accountable to the community here.

55:31Jeremy Scahill:Well, I know one of the tweets had to do with you responding to, I think it was Mike Huckabee's encouragement of using corn cobs for toilet paper. And I personally think you should stand by that one. That one I would recommend. No apologies needed. Claire, last question to you here. You started off talking about the stakes of this election day, you know, not only in your district, but in other districts in New York City and I think really election season across the country. But, you know, Zoran did sort of put his political capital here on the line for the two of you and for Brad Lander. We all know what, you know, sort of mainstream Democrats and establishment types will say if if you all are not successful.

56:11Jeremy Scahill:So just underscore, what do you think are the stakes here and what has it meant to your campaign that Zoran decided to get behind you? Absolutely. Well, you know, I think we know that the media establishment is going to say after this election win or lose. This will be some referendum on Zoran. But the stakes are high for the working class. You know, this these races are about are we going to be able to set the tone for the Democratic Party in the years going forward? Are we going to be able to let, you know, organizers who will stand up against a genocide as it's happening will call for the end of U.S.

56:50complicity in that genocide? We'll fight for the working people in our communities who are struggling against an affordability crisis or struggling against ICE or struggling to lead lives of dignity under a fascist administration. Can we change the direction of the Democratic Party and can we win back the working class of this country? You know, that's really what's at stake in this election. We are here to prove that the election of Zoran Mamdani was not some flash in the pan. It wasn't a fluke. This is a movement. It is a strong and durable movement and working people who are tired of being told to wait, who are tired of being told that Democrats are fighting for us when they're just not.

57:31We're going to set the tone for the Democratic Party. And we know that, you know, people are watching these races very closely all over the country. They're watching these races to see if they can pour dark money against other progressive candidates. They're watching these races to see if standing up against a genocide is a winning message or a losing message. And they will take that to heart. So we really, what's at stake right now is incredibly important. If you believe in these races, if you want to see us succeed, if you want to see this movement succeed, you know, there are a lot of opportunities to come out to volunteer, phone bank.

58:09It's a rainy day in New York City. People are going to be at home. Now's the perfect time to call them and ask for their vote plans. And we have a world to win. It doesn't end on June 23rd. It continues long after. But these races are an essential part of organizing working class people in New York City to demand exactly what we're owed from the bosses and the billionaires who are trying to rain on our parade right now. And when organized people come together, we win.

58:34Jeremy Scahill:Well, we will put both of your campaign info in the description so people can get involved here in the final days if they are so interested. And really appreciate both of you taking some time out. I know how busy you must be today. So thank you so much for making some time for us. Thank you both. It was great being here. Thank you again. All right. That does it for us today. Jam-packed show as usual. We'll have another one for you tomorrow. Me and Sagar in studio. See you then.

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