7/16/26: Israel Op To Derail Negotiations, Trump Cuts Lead To Disease Outbreak

16 Jul 2026 · 37 min · 12 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that a pro-Israel influence operation run by former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale is undermining U.S. diplomacy (including negotiations related to Iran). It also covers a major cyclospora outbreak (linked epidemiologically to Midwestern states and possibly Taco Bell) and claims that federal disease-surveillance cuts (“DOGE”/Trump-era staffing reductions) are worsening public-health tracking, contributing to outbreaks like cyclospora, vibrio, screw-worm, and Ebola/malaria risks.

Guest backgrounds

No specific guests appear in the episode segment; it’s primarily hosted by commentators (including Sagar and Crystal) and references other media figures (e.g., J.D. Vance on Joe Rogan).

Key claims

Parscale’s firm (Clocktower X) produced monthly Gen Z-targeted content for Israel via Havas/FARA filings; messaging was coordinated to derail negotiations. Surveillance cuts reduced monitoring beyond salmonella/E. coli, lagging federal data behind states.

Notable examples

Time Magazine’s reporting; attacks on an Iran MOU; cyclospora cases in 34 states; Taco Bell voluntarily removing lettuce/cilantro/guacamole in hard-hit areas; screw-worm return in Texas; Ebola in DRC and malaria reintroduction risk.

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Brad Parscale's Influence Operation

2:25 to 4:26

Discussion about Brad Parscale's campaign for Israel and its implications.

“Turning now to Brad Parscale, a name some of you may have forgotten at this point, but let's put this up here on the screen.”

Right-Wing Influencer Messaging

4:26 to 8:24

Exploration of the paid messaging within right-wing media and its effects.

“So, for example, it is not clear how much Brad Parscale has actually paid individual influencers as part of this campaign.”

Influence and Negotiation Dynamics

8:24 to 11:01

Discussion on the impact of foreign influence on U.S. negotiations and politics.

“And I'm not going to say there's none of that on the left, but I can tell you it's not the same.”

J.D. Vance on Joe Rogan

11:01 to 14:00

Analysis of J.D. Vance's remarks about negotiations with Iran on Joe Rogan's podcast.

“And especially now you You have, you know, it's the wild, wild west in terms of journalism and media, which in some ways is great.”

Influence of Money in Politics

14:00 to 16:15

Exploring the role of financial contributions in political negotiations.

“Let me just point out that his boss took how much money from Mary Mandelson for his campaign.”

Randy Fine's Legislative Threat

19:21 to 21:40

Discussing Congressman Randy Fine's threats against legislative rules related to Trump.

“What he says is he'll vote it until Trump fires Alex Brusewitz.”

The Role of Influencers in Political Commentary

21:40 to 23:10

Examining how influencers shape political discourse and their ties to funding.

“And for Trump, because he's such a blank slate, they always try to use they attack J.D.”

Sanctions and Media Integrity

23:10 to 28:00

Debating the ethics of accepting foreign money in media and educational institutions.

“Let's go ahead and take a listen to that.”

The Impact of Financial Incentives on Influencer Speech

28:00 to 29:25

Discussing how financial motives can distort the views and actions of influencers.

“And, like, if you're being paid for something, then you— And you should disclose it.”

Taco Bell and the Cyclospora Outbreak

32:32 to 36:48

Examining the link between Taco Bell and a serious foodborne illness outbreak.

“which has caused a surge in explosive diarrhea.”
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Government Cuts and Public Health Risks

36:48 to 42:02

Analyzing how government budget cuts impact public health and disease tracking.

“How would you also like little flesh eating bacteria?”

Government Spending and Its Consequences

42:02 to 44:26

Discussing the implications of government spending cuts and their impact on public services.

“Every dollar that was allegedly saved will go to funding some BS weapons manufacturing company.”
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2:25Turning now to Brad Parscale, a name some of you may have forgotten at this point, but let's put this up here on the screen. He was, of course, Donald Trump's campaign manager. For years, he raised hundreds of millions of dollars. He himself had quite a bit of controversy at the time. And so what has he been doing in his retirement? Well, we've known this for quite some time, but Time Magazine really dug into the details. Trump's ex-campaign manager, Brad Parscale, is running an Israeli influence operation targeting the MAGA base. So let me read in case you have not heard of any of this before.

3:00Last September, the global ad agency, Havas, hired Brad Parscale's firm, Clocktower X, to conduct a digital campaign on behalf of the state of Israel. This is according to the Foreign Agents Registration Act filings, which were reviewed by Time magazine. Under Parscale's operation, he would produce 100 original pieces of content each month with aimed at least 80 % for Gen Z audiences across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and podcasts. In a services agreement, Parscale pledged to amplify the campaign across social media, integration of narrative messaging into the Salem Media Network properties, and aligned distribution channels, which refers to the Christian Conservative Broadcasting and Publishing Company, where he is the chief strategy officer.

3:45He vowed that the effort would produce at least 50 million digital impressions per month, as well as influence how AI tools such as OpenAI's ChatGPT, Anthropics Cloud, and Google's Gemini characterized Israel and the war. For all of this, they agreed to pay some$1.5 million per month. And so what you can see here is that you had a nearly$40 to$50 million ad campaign, which has now been running for years in the background, exclusively targeted at the MAGA base to keep them from staying on side whenever it comes to the issue of Israel. Now, we don't really know who exactly has been ensnared in all of this, but some of the names are at least familiar to those of us on Twitter.

4:34So, for example, it is not clear how much Brad Parscale has actually paid individual influencers as part of this campaign. Other recent influenceable campaigns have offered them a base payment of$2 ,250 plus$1 for every 1 ,000 views up to 2 million, allowing them to earn as much as$4 ,250 per post, per post. So let's say and extrapolate this from Twitter. I'll just give people an example. Both of us are Twitter blue, not by choice, by the way. You know, it's like we were just kind of given it to us. And so I can see what my creator, you know, output or whatever is. For all of my tweets in a month, we earn and all the funds go to the company.

5:24It's like$300 for every tweet that I put out. And I think, I don't know, I haven't looked at the average impression or any of that, but I'm sure it probably, at least some of them, some of the more viral ones would meet this standard. So they are paying 10 times market value, so to speak, all for pro-Israel messaging, which is all being used and coordinated by power scale and this influence operation all on behalf of the state of Israel. I will say one noteworthy piece, as an Israeli official actually said, he didn't even do a good job. Yeah, the Israelis are like, look at our approval rating from the U.S.

5:58This is not working. Young people hate us, whether they're on the right or the left. So what are you doing with this money? It's not working. Right. So at least one funny karmic thing in here is that the Israelis are bitching that they didn't get enough value for their money and paying. So yeah, I mean, OK. Brad Parscale got really rich. So that's good. Good for him. Buy a couple more mansions in South Florida. But it is still noteworthy because it reveals how there are so many people who, and usually the ones accusing us and others of being Qatari agents who actually are on the payroll. Now, I'm not going to say on the payroll of a foreign government because it's laundered.

6:36It's like, oh, to an American thing. But ultimately the cash, if you were to trace it back, would be to either the Israeli government or some friends of the Israeli government. And more importantly, it's inorganic in terms of what they're posting. And usually it's the people who have the most vicious accusations. It's really a confession. The very people who want to accuse Tucker Carlson or our show or other. Yeah, I just had this recently. It's like your pro terror funded media outlet. And, you know, I often just want to be like, OK, let's both of us will independently audited our tax returns.

7:08Let's see who's got money coming from a foreign. It ain't me. I can guarantee you that, you know, and they would never put up with any of that. Yeah. I mean, it is very it's first of all. So what a sleazy guy, like so disgusting. And it really does. You know, we're about to play a J.D. Vance clip on Joe Rogan. Like it really is aimed at undercutting the negotiations and any sort of potential diplomacy process. immediately after the MOU was signed, you saw all of these right-wing influencers. We don't know technically whether they were all paid or not, but a bunch of them, similar language, attacking the MOU, saying it was a disaster for the U.S., you know, all this very coordinated-looking messaging coming from the right-wing influencer community.

7:49But also, you know, I think, like, this is one very important vector. I need you guys to understand how much of messaging in the right-wing media influencer space is paid for. Like there was another incident. Remember we covered it when there was all of a sudden this very coordinated messaging around some soda issue. They talk about this in Time Magazine. You'll see things like that pop up where you're like, what, where did this come from? Or there was this coordinated attack on Harley motorcycles that appears to have been funded by their competitor. And you all of a sudden had all of these right wing influencers who were like deeply passionate about how Harley Davidson has gone woke, which was preposterous and like based on literally nothing.

8:30But you'll see this. And I'm not going to say there's none of that on the left, but I can tell you it's not the same. It genuinely isn't. You had a whole scandal about the chorus, you know, influencer community. That was a thing. But I'm telling you, you do not have the same level of expectation that you can just buy people. And this is commonplace and accepted among the right-wing media influencer class. We interviewed, Kyle and I interviewed Ashley St. Clair, Elon Musk's ex. Paramore. Yeah, ex. And she was talking about how, yeah, she'd be in these group chats and this is just how it works. So when you had that scandal involving Tim Pool and some other influencers who were like getting the shady money, they were like, what's the problem?

9:11Everybody does this. This is just normal. This is how we operate. So I don't know. It's really wild. But people need to understand that what you're seeing on Twitter or the content that's being produced, video content that's being produced, that is not necessarily just coming because of their neutral analysis. Oftentimes, there is someone behind the scenes who has a perspective, has an interest, who is paying them to say what they are saying. Yeah, I've been on the receiving end of this. So somebody called me and said, I know you really are passionate about sports betting. Would you be willing to post against a sports betting piece of legislation.

9:44I was like, well, I was like, I don't accept money for posts. Just tell me about it and maybe I'll post about it or not. I don't get paid for Twitter or for anything, you know? And, uh, and I go, wait, out of curiosity, cause I would love to meet this person who is paying to lobby against sports betting legislation. And they said, oh, well, we're working for the prediction markets. And I was like, oh, so the prediction markets are paying people to lobby against legal sports betting so they can be the only option that's – that's the level of scumbaggery which is happening out there. Of course, I just said, no, I don't want your blood money, basically.

10:20I also didn't even end up posting about it just because it's so skeevy and so disgusting. But that's a perfect example. And then the way that they justify this stuff is there's always – like soda. They're like, oh, who cares? Okay, sure. I'll take a few dollars here and there. At one point, I saw there was this whole scandal over India, like the government of India or somebody had been paying these influence or some firm on their behalf because Indians were under attack by a lot of these like, you know, Groyper types. And so a bunch of these right wing accounts started posting on behalf of India and then they got attacked and they deleted and apologized.

10:51I mean, I know this all may sound, you know, a little bit Byzantine, but this really does matter in terms of taste making, I think on the right. And that's why it's important. Yes. And especially now you You have, you know, it's the wild, wild west in terms of journalism and media, which in some ways is great. That's why we exist, right? It's enabled our ability to create the show and reach an audience and all those sorts of things. But don't leave your media analysis behind, right? We all understand, or viewers of this show, I think, understand the way that corporate media is influenced by their advertisers and by access journalism and by the sort of journalists that they even select to be at those organizations and who's able to succeed and rise to the top.

11:32Like we understand all of that in a lot of ways in the in quote unquote independent media ecosystem. The incentives are vastly worse because at least at corporate media, there was a line between the people who were selling. Oh, yeah. If you took money like this, you're fired. Like at CNN. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. You get caught for taking direct like corporate money or from any sort of interest and then providing a viewpoint based on that. You would be out the door here. It's just it's just commonplace. commonplace. It's just become an accepted part of the ecosystem to have this sort of direct, undisclosed pay for play.

12:06So it was, you know, this is an important story, obviously, because of how consequential the decision making around the Iran war is ultimately. And so it was interesting to hear J.D. Vance talking to Joe Rogan about this. And Vance, of course, was the one who sent out to do the negotiations and was trying to present to Rogan this idea that like, oh, yeah, no, we're bombing them again, but I promise we're getting back to the negotiating table. We'll see if that works out. In any case, he had a lot to say about this foreign influence operation that is being run to undermine the negotiations. Let's take a listen to that.

12:39But I definitely think you have seen this very discreet, extremely well-funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation and try to derail the deal. And, you know, there was, again, there's this Time article that came out Yesterday, a friend sent it to me. It's like worth reading because it lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been paid by a former Trump campaign person who was himself paid by certain elements within the Israeli government. And those people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to accomplish the negotiation objective that the president set for the country.

13:19So what is their position? Are they attacking you? How? Oh, it's social media posts. They're leaking to reporters. They're attacking me obsessively, saying that we should not be negotiating with Iran. We should just keep the military campaign going indefinitely. Let's say certain elements of the Israeli government want to criticize the deal or have disagreements about the deal. I don't even mind an effort to try to influence, you know, foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel does it. Other countries do it. It's just sort of the nature of the beast.

13:53What bothers me is actually when Americans allow, meaning American leadership, allows that influence to affect their judgment and to affect what they are advocating for. Let me just point out that his boss took how much money from Mary Mandelson for his campaign. And then you have the audacity to be like, oh, the money and the influence. It's like the influencing politicians. That's what's really terrible. I don't know. That's a lot for me to swallow. Fair. I will say the reason why, I mean, it's kind of interesting that you would call it out in the first place. The reason why is I think is I don't think he would if it weren't actually influential on his ability to negotiate.

14:36and within the administration. Because I can tell you how this all works. It's all happening right now. Because JD basically just said the same stuff on Rogan that he always says about Israel. It's like, look, they're, I mean, look at that. And this is why it's so tortured and why, in my opinion, the pro-Israel position just ultimately has to collapse. So you have to twist yourself into knots of like, I don't even mind if they try. You know, every other country tries. It's like fucking Estonia is not trying as much. Estonia does not have nearly as much influence. Did you know we have more of a legal responsibility to protect Estonia than we do Israel?

15:03Do people even know that? But I think both are nuts, just so you know. But just in terms of the level of influence. My point around this is those posts are all you. And I know how this works. To the extent that I tweet it all, because I really don't much anymore, I only really do it to either put an opinion out there for fun, like weed or daylight savings, or to influence the debate in the White House. Because I know that these posts get surfaced and passed around in group chats and others to influence the debate against each other. That's why Laura Loomer does what she does. That's why she's out today attacking Joe Rogan, Mark Levin, Randy Fine.

15:42And just to show you all how important this stuff is. It's a hyper online administration. It's incredibly incestuous. And J.D. Vance is really like the pinnacle of that online nature. I mean, that is really how he developed a lot of his view and became prominent in the right wing media ecosystem space. Yeah. So what I mean, yes, he wrote the online space to the Senate and arguably, I would say, to the vice presidency. Yes. And largely, you know, that's what set him apart from a lot of the other people who were GOP politicians. I'm Jake Brennan, and on the Disgraceland podcast, I explore the wild lives of rock stars and unbelievable true crime stories from music history.

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19:21What I find fascinating, though, is let's put this one up here on the screen from Randy Fine, the senator from or the sorry the congressman from tel aviv aka florida but here he says randy fine has now told white house officials he will vote against every rule on the floor which just so you know rule on the floor is like how you bring legislation so this is a major pain in the ass for mike johnson and for the gop because what this means is that they will have much more difficulty advancing legislation especially when you have such a narrow majority that's in the house of representatives. What he says is he'll vote it until Trump fires Alex Brusewitz.

19:56So Alex Brusewitz, a name some of you may not know, he was kind of the podcast whisperer of the Trump campaign in 2024. He was the one behind Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, the Andrew Schultz interview, like a lot of stuff, which you say whatever you want. It obviously worked tremendously to Trump's benefit and kind of set a cultural vibe of Donald Trump ahead of the election. Brusewitz has been one of the people who has been most vociferously attacking the Brad Parscale, or not even attacking, pointing out a lot of these pro-Israel influencers are all being paid off and saying you're undermining the administration.

20:31How dare you not trust Donald Trump? So Randy Fine finds it so important to fire this person who is just elevating the fact that pro-Israel influencers are being paid and that Parscale himself is being paid, that he is going to vote against every piece of legislation until Bruce Huitz is fired by Trump as an advisor. We don't know how long and how far this is going to go, but I just do think that this is incredibly noteworthy for how he sees the, you know, how Randy himself, of course, one of the most pro-Israel peace, you know, one of the most pro-Israel politicians in the GOP, he sees this as vital to his influence operation.

21:12And this has now been endorsed by Mark Levin, who's like, great job, Randy Fine. So you can see how for them, they find Twitter and the battle of ideas there that takes place, as well as here in podcasts. So important because what they need is to elevate this and show that there's actually more backlash against diplomacy than there actually is. Because if you're going to actually ask the American people, do you support diplomatic efforts? They're like, yes, of course. No question. Right. And for Trump, because he's such a blank slate, they always try to use they attack J.D. whenever they can attack Trump or they use Trump to attack J.D.

21:48And this is all part of what's going on right now. So it's very noteworthy. This is a separate issue. I think Fox News is a big problem for diplomacy, too, because they're still beating the drums of war. It's like the one thing that they'll be critical of Trump on. And but I also want people to understand it's not just like Twitter influencers. officers, Brad Parscale is the chief strategy officer for Salem Media, which has all sorts of properties. They have a whole radio network. They fund a podcast network. They fund Town Hall, Red State, Hot Air, PJ Media. They've got all this Christian content.

22:24They even fund some financial publications. So it's a large conservative media network that Parscale is the chief strategy officer for. And overtly in his contract, he says he pledged to amplify the campaign across social media and through integration of narrative messaging into Salem Media Network properties and aligned distribution channels, referring to the Christian Conservative Broadcasting and Publishing Company, where he serves as chief strategy officer. Yes, sir. It will not surprise you that our own Ryan Grimm confronted Scott Jennings, who is part of this Salem media network, over the foreign Israeli ties and how that might influence his commentary that he offers on his show.

23:10Let's go ahead. This is E2. Let's go ahead and take a listen to that. As a student, be as critical as you want, really, of the United States. You just can't be critical of Israel. And also, and this is not personal, but there is so much money pouring in to push us in that direction. Even Salem Media, where you do your show, right? Brad Parscale, who is the chief strategy officer there, is a registered foreign agent for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Like, this is an American, I think it's American, right? Salem, yeah. It's an American media company whose chief strategy officer is a foreign agent registered for the state of Israel.

23:59And 30 % of this company is owned by Lara Trump and Don Trump Jr. So before we're talking about what is America, who should be an American, it's like, can we as Americans discuss this? Let's get Scott's response. So you seem to have some issue with Israel having a presence in the United States or even on American? I think we should be sanctioning Israel. Even on American universities? I think they should be sanctioned, yes. I think it should be criminal for an American media company to take money from the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs because I think they should be under sanctions for what they did in Gaza.

24:45Do you believe that American universities should be taking money from, say, Qatar? If we want to do a broad sanctioning around human rights… You seem to have singled out one country, which, by the way, is an ally of the United States. They committed a genocide. Qatar, a lot of human rights problems there. UAE, a lot of human rights problems. But universities all over this country do take Qatari money. I'm asking you, does your concern about internationalism exist beyond Israel? I'd be okay with banning that too. They always think it's a gotcha. In beast mode. I know. They always think the left isn't going to be willing to condemn Saudi Arabia.

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25:25It's like, we're the only people who cared about the genocide they were committing in Yemen. Go look at the content that we do about UAE and Sudan. But they always think that, oh, they only care about Israel because I think they buy the nonsense that it's based on anti-Semitism. And not any sort of principled view around, hey, we don't want our tax dollars going to a genocide. We don't want to see genocide committed, period. I've had this hit so many times. They're like, Qatar must be paying him. The Qatari government hates me. Roll the footage from our show during the World Cup where we were talking about all of the abuse of their migrant laborers and how corrupt they were.

25:57I was afraid I might get arrested whenever I had to do, when I had to transit through Doha. But yeah, they're going to pay me some money to speak out against Israel. I'm like, it's a joke. It's just, I don't know. That's all these people have. You know, it's all they ever will. Last thing, we're just going to do a small shout out here to Eyal Yacobi. Friend of the show. Yeah, let's put him up here on the screen. E4. He is one of the people who was named in this article. In fact, I think he's the only one. Yeah. That was specifically like, this one guy is definitely on the take. So he got very upset with Time Magazine because he disputed that he had been paid by Influencible to combat anti-Semitism.

26:37But he does confirm he has worked on Influencible campaigns, according to a company official. Yacobi did not say that he was paid to combat anti-Semitism. He did, however, say that he had not posted anything that he didn't already believe. However, as you and I both know, even simply being paid to post opinions is a way to basically prop them up inorganically. But ours are completely and totally funded by a mass audience of millions of people. So, yeah, I mean, sometimes you say things that people don't agree with, et cetera. People can cancel a membership if they want. Prefer you don't, but if you want to, I guess you can.

27:13But it's not a direct – like nobody – this is my favorite. And they're like, oh, he's posting against weed. Pharma's paying him. I'm like, oh, yeah, for sure. I would venture to say the weed stuff has probably cost us more money in the long run than anybody who's ever signed up for it. I don't give a shit. But that's my point. Just we are paid and supported by the show because people believe in the mission. They are being directly paid inorganically outside of any real market force by either the government, the companies, or whatever. And that fundamentally is undemocratic because it makes them more overrepresented in political discourse than they actually deserve to be.

27:49And this is – why does this matter? It's not just about influencers. They set the tone for the GOP members of Congress and for all of these other people who are in the White House and the administration and others to make them think this is a much more popular position than it actually is. And, like, if you're being paid for something, then you— And you should disclose it. You should absolutely disclose it. But just in terms of the way that works, because I believe him that he genuinely holds horrific genocidal views. I actually believe him in that. I don't know if you guys remember. He's the one who came to fame as like a college student crying about anti-Semitism and demanding a safe space and really helped to launch the anti-Semitism woke turn on the Republican right.

28:29But in any case, I believe him that he genuinely and sincerely holds those views. But, you know, if you're being paid to post, then maybe you're going to post at a time when you wouldn't have otherwise. Maybe you're going to go further than you would have otherwise. And, you know, so you can get that engagement so you can get a larger paycheck. It even with someone who has those views, it distorts and changes their incentives. And it also creates a situation where people can talk themselves into all kinds of things if their paycheck depends on it. So maybe things that, you know, him or another influencer wouldn't have justified, they can talk themselves into because it's financially beneficial to them.

29:02So it just it's sick, it's sleazy, and it's far, far too common. So appreciate Time Magazine digging into and exposing at least this one node. And then the fact that it's Trump's former campaign chief who is now directly at times, at least, depending on whether Trump is in a pro-peace or a pro-war mood that day, but is at times directly undermining what what Trump is trying to do. I agree. All right. Oh, I haven't done this in a while. Crystal, what are you taking a look at? well. I'm Jake Brennan and on my podcast Disgraceland I tell the stories behind music's biggest names the moments rumors and real life events that help shape their legacy like the story behind Sonic Youth that starts with downtown New York cool and ends with album art inspired by a true crime.

29:49Sonic Youth was not fronted by a groupie hustling alpha like David Lee Roth. No, Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore was an artist in love with a fellow artist who just happened to play bass in the same band with him and his other artist friends. Her name was Kim Gordon. And Thurston and Kim were every bit as cool as the couple on the cover of Goo. The same couple involved in one of the UK's darkest true crimes. Disgraceland is part of the Exactly Right Network. Listen to new episodes every Tuesday. Bonus episodes Thursday and rewinds on Sunday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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31:08Do better or do less so I don't have to do so much. So join Yamanika each episode as she answers one question. Who's the problem? I'm Yamanika and I'm out. Listen to You're the Problem with Yamanika on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

31:30Hey, everyone. It's the Jonas Brothers. This week on the podcast, hey, Jonas, we're hanging out with the one, the only, the only and the one, Michael Buble. You guys, I'm genuinely a huge fan. Like, it's funny, you know, I made a whole thing about doing this TikTok where I got you guys to sign the guitar. RNA. But it was real. Like, we listen to you in the car all the time. Like, it literally is hanging up with all your signatures. Wow. I am so honored. After Kevin's recent, uh, let's call it interesting confession about Michael, I had a feeling this wasn't going to be going away. We figured there's only one thing to do.

32:00We must invite Michael Buble on the podcast, and we want to know what's on his Sexy Time playlist. You know, I did an interview, and they're like, have you heard about this Jonas Brothers thing? And they're like, what did you think of it? And I was like, well, I mean, it's reciprocal. Like, what a man gotta do? I don't know. What a man gotta do. We talk about Kevin's confession, Michael's reaction, and a whole lot more. Do you have a hockey rink in your house? I do. I do. Our conversation with Michael Buble is out now. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

32:31Taco Bell is now being investigated for potentially contributing to the horrifying spread of the cyclospora parasite, which has caused a surge in explosive diarrhea. That illness can drag on for weeks. It has already put dozens of people in the hospital. Here's a report on that investigation. They say the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday that investigators have identified a likely epidemiological link among cyclosporiasis cases in at least four Midwestern states, Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, and Kentucky, marking the agency's clearest public indication yet that many of the illnesses are connected by a common source.

33:09Cases have been identified in at least 34 states, and additional confirmed illnesses could continue to increase through the end of August, according to officials. For their part, Taco Bell has voluntarily pulled some ingredients like lettuce, cilantro, and guacamole from the menu in certain hard-hit locations as the search for the source of the parasitic spread is investigated. Now, some people afflicted with cyclosporiasis say they never ate at Taco Bell, and the report does acknowledge that no specific Taco Bell nexus has been identified. So honestly, who knows? So far, though, states are reporting roughly 7000 cases with a particularly severe concentration in the Midwest.

33:47Federal reporting is way behind the state totals. For a sense of the scale of the outbreak, though, Michigan typically reports 40 to 50 cases for an entire year. This year, they've already identified more than 3 ,700. Nationally, the CDC logged 2 ,700 cases in all of 2025. We have more than doubled that, and it's only mid-July. State data suggests we've already blown past the previous all-time high of about 4 ,700 cases set in 2019. What's more, all of these numbers are likely a significant undercount because plenty of people seek care at home, never report it to the authorities, and also because testing for cyclospora is actually more difficult than other pathogens.

34:26One confirmed patient described weeks of gastrointestinal hell in which she was so severely afflicted at times she could not move from the confines of the bathroom. No, it was pretty bad. It was bad. It's embarrassing how bad it was. It was really bad. There were moments where I was literally just camped out in the bathroom and like, I don't care. I'm just going to lay on this floor. And there was like one night, And I'm not a vomiter. One night I did have an episode of just like it was that was actually the turning point where I was like the next morning. I'm like, OK, we're going to the emergency room because I remember calling and my baby came in and she's like, what do you need?

35:03I was like something for me to get this out in. So she's bringing me a trash can. And it was pretty bad. It was it was bad. It's it's not for the week. I'll tell you that. Not for the week. Contemplating this horrifying fate, all for the crime of indulging in a crunch wrap. you may be asking yourself, why has God forsaken us? Well, turns out the fault lies not in the stars, but in ourselves, or at least in the wretched government we decided to elect for some reason. In their enthusiasm for government destruction, the Trump administration decided it would be a great idea to just stop requiring active surveillance for cyclospora, along with a host of other foodborne illnesses like listeria.

35:40In fact, now monitoring is only required for two pathogens, that's salmonella and E. coli. Let's consider the irony here. We're devoting endless resources to building the human tracking panopticon, but when it comes time to surveil and track explosive diarrhea-causing pathogens, suddenly, apparently, we don't have the funds. This is all unfolding, too, amidst the backdrop of massive workforce cuts at the CDC and across all of Health and Human Services. The CDC alone has lost about a quarter of its workforce under Trump 2.0, including key experts among the agency's disease detectives. Maintaining the previous surveillance regime would not likely have stopped the outbreak, but the fact that it's spreading unchecked, that the federal data is lagging way behind the state data, and that no source still has been identified, that all speaks to the detrimental impact of all of these cuts.

36:29Former CDC communications staffer Sarah Boehm, she was terminated in the first wave of doge firings back in February 2025. She described the toll here as generational, the harm that's going to come to people that don't even know what CDC was protecting them from. But this is just the tip of the iceberg. Lettuce. Sorry, couldn't resist that one. How would you also like little flesh eating bacteria? Maybe malarial reintroduction. How about a screw worm infestation or an unmitigated Ebola catastrophe? Did you vote for explosive diarrhea and a resurgence of the measles? Because also impacted by the pathogen surveillance cuts was a little guy called Vibrio.

37:08Vibrio is a flesh-eating bacteria causing serious illness, ICU hospitalization, limb amputation, and even death in one of five cases. It is spreading more widely now due to the impacts of the climate crisis at the same time that the Trump admin is undercutting our ability to track and to study it. In fact, the National Science Foundation began dismantling the deep ocean monitoring network critical for predicting the sorts of conditions in which Vibrio thrives. The program was explicitly targeted by Project 2025, claiming that the data was fueling climate alarmism. Now, let me ask you, do you think it's climate alarmism to want to know a little something about flesh-eating bacteria?

37:45Fortunately, outcry from Congress did lead them to reverse those original plans. But moving on from the CDC, we got a significant screwworm spread causing chaos in the cattle industry. This parasitic blowfly had been eradicated in the U.S. Now it's back. And unfortunately for beef enjoyers, the USDA unit responsible for fighting it, the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, lost 2 ,009 employees under Doge. That is 23 percent of the entire service. USDA overall shed roughly 20 ,000 workers in a single year. Now, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins, she claims that the idea Doge caused this could not be further from the truth.

38:22She instead blames Biden and illegal immigration. She has, however, failed to provide any evidence of this claim. USDA's own report, though, estimates a Texas outbreak could cost the state$1.8 billion. Meanwhile, if we look overseas, we can see the impact of our global aid cuts on disease prevention around the world. There is, for example, a particularly bad outbreak of Ebola in the Democratic Republic of Congo. It's one of the worst in history, in fact. Experts say that has been worsened by USAID cuts and U.S. withdrawal from the World Health Organization. quote, without the same amount of funding from USAID, the International Rescue Committee, which partners to deliver frontline health surveillance and outbreak preparedness activities in Congo, curtailed its programs.

39:04Funding cuts have left the region dangerously exposed, Heather Riach Kerr, IRC's country director for Congo, said in a statement. We are now here monitoring airports. Make sure we don't end up with an Ebola outbreak here at home. Let's hope that all works out. Meanwhile, experts are also warning that those same global health cuts could lead to a reintroduction of malaria on U.S. soil after eradicating that back in 1951. The CDC issued updated guidance warning that we are susceptible to reintroduction, which is not hard to predict when you slash the programs that contain malaria abroad. We've already had a local outbreak of malaria, which was contained back in 2023.

39:42So this risk is, in fact, very real. Turns out, guys, you can't just run around with a chainsaw axing programs you don't know about and don't understand without some potential negative consequences. You can't make it your stated goal to make life so miserable for government workers that they all retire without losing a few genuine experts who really actually mattered. May have been also particularly irreplaceable. It will take years just to assess the damage that was done in the government destruction feeding frenzy. It turns out all those people our tax dollars were paying for, all those programs we knew nothing about that were just running in the background, tracking, researching, coordinating, preventing.

40:16Some of those, at least, were really pretty important, at least to those of us who prefer to order their food without having to play what one Twitter user described as poo-poo roulette. Let's consider the irony here, though. In public health, the actual technical term for tracking pathogens is disease surveillance. That's what FoodNet was, the program they cut. And it turns out that's the one and only kind of surveillance this government has ever wanted less of. Endless money for watching you and not a dime to watch the parasite. So, Sagar, that is my take. Tragic. Yeah, your thoughts on the potential Taco Bell next to the year.

40:48It's pretty weak, I just want to say. I was going to say. In fairness to Taco Bell, they are looking into it, but some of the people who got sick didn't eat a Taco Bell. Literally just yesterday, my wife was going to make a salad. She's like, should I make the salad? I'm like, make the salad. I'm like, let's roll the salad. Oh, you're that kind of a guy? Yeah, look, I've got an iron stomach. I've spent a lot of time in Asia. I think I'll be all right. So I ate the salad. We'll see if it works out. I mean, from the Doge thing, I think it's been so long since we haven't talked about Doge. ultimately it came down to we got it's the same republican trap of all time we want to cut spending we don't want to touch the military and we don't want to touch entitlements there's seven percent of the federal budget left most of it is stuff that most of us like like the noah hurricane guys who fly into the middle of a hurricane yeah or air traffic controllers yeah air traffic control Nonetheless, we still want to cut X billion, so we got to cut something.

41:43So, yeah, this is the type of stuff that you end up cutting and you have no real idea. It's kind of a sledgehammer approach to the government. And meanwhile, every saving of Doge would be wiped out if the Trump administration simply passed their requested NDAA budget, which would increase the budget to$1.5 trillion. Yeah. Every dollar that was allegedly saved will go to funding some BS weapons manufacturing company. So ultimately, yeah, this will be their legacy. And actually, we warned about it at the time with air traffic control. I remember I go, if you have even a single airplane crash, I'm like, you literally are on the look for it.

42:16So congratulations. And, you know, I think you're not even the first person to draw this conclusion. I've seen it spread across social media about how people are upset by these types of things. In fact, this is the type of stuff people want to see their government do and not increase their military budget by one or five bill. Well, here's the thing is, you know, we joked about this on a Friday show when we're talking about the screw worm. Like, it sounds like studying the mating habits of the Mexican screw worm or New World screw worm, I think is what it's called, sounds like a caricature of the sort of wasteful government spending that Fox News would be like, this is ridiculous.

42:50Why are we doing this? And then lo and behold, you actually dig one layer deeper and you're like, you know, that was kind of important. We should have probably kept doing that because now the entire beef industry, the cattle industry in Texas is genuinely at risk. We talked to, you know, an expert on Texas politics who really emphasized to us how much we're talking about the Texas Senate race, how much the screw arm situation is like a genuine wild card in terms of what could happen in that Senate race because the economic impact is massive and then the cultural impact is massive too. We are a beef eating country.

43:22You know, we already have beef prices that have skyrocketed. If you start having genuine shortages, which is a possibility, that's going to really hit Texans very hard. So in any case, you know, it would have been nice. I'm sure there is government waste, fraud and abuse, which could be cut, soccer. It's all in the Pentagon. We could if you cross the river, as you've been and said, go to the Pentagon. You could find some, you know, throw a rock and find some if you you know, even in terms of Medicare fraud, we've got you know, we've got members of the Senate who could tell you all about that. And, uh, and what about legalized go, but like literal legal fraud in Medicare, the fact that they can't negotiate drug prices on the top.

44:01Great point. Yeah. That's fraud. That actually is what I, when I, every time I see my FICA and I think about that, it fills me with rage. The fact that we're overpaying for drugs, you know, for no reason it's literally anyway. But I think we're, you know, we're just at the beginning of the process of finding out what were the things that they destroyed that actually were useful and were preventing genuine harms. So in any case, a lot of learning things the hard way in this country at this point, apparently. Yeah. All right. Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. The Friday show for everybody tomorrow.

44:31So they'll see you then.

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