In short
Alleged insider trading and market manipulation via prediction markets tied to Trump administration events; ICE officer shooting in Maine and broader ICE enforcement/case credibility; commentary on JD Vance’s role and messaging.
Guests/backgrounds
No clear guest lineup in the transcript. Hosts include Ari Chambers and Sam Jay. Tim Dillon appears as a featured voice segment criticizing JD Vance. Other referenced voices include a Maine ICE agent’s ex-wife speaking to AP (not a podcast guest).
Key claims
Anonymous Polymarket accounts allegedly profited from non-public White House/Trump-related information (e.g., April ceasefire bet). Rep. Anna Paulina Luna allegedly tipped MAGA influencer Rogan O’Hanley about Trump’s VP pick (Vance) for Polymarket betting; both deny. Trump teleprompter operator Gabriel Perez allegedly used inside knowledge to bet on what Trump would say; Kalshi surveillance referred trades to the CFTC. ICE hiring/vetting allegedly failed; David Brioulette’s family describes violent mental-health history. ICE cases allegedly crumble in court (NYT: 558 charged; only 4 convicted). FBI investigation of ICE confrontations allegedly shifted to ICE itself.
Notable examples
Polymarket $600k+ correct ceasefire bets; Perez $100k+ bets; Luna/O’Hanley lunch at Stoball House; Brioulette ex-wife allegations (stalking, threats, violence); Texas and Maine unmarked-car stop disputes; NYT assault-charge conviction numbers.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroducing Breaking Points
2:12 to 2:25
Overview of the show's mission to provide honest perspectives.
“and all put together for you every morning in your inbox.”
Insider Trading Allegations
2:25 to 2:53
Discussion on allegations of insider trading involving Congress and the White House.
“Turning now to insider trading, Our great friend of the show, Philip Wegman, out with a great story over at the Wall Street Journal.”
Details on Suspicious Trades
2:53 to 4:23
Insights into suspicious trades and associated figures in insider trading allegations.
“So let's start with the first one, which is inside the White House, back in April, people began to panic.”
Teleprompter Operator Scandal
4:23 to 6:41
Exploration of a scandal involving Trump's teleprompter operator and betting.
“that he was behind a long-shot attempt, mostly by social media, to get Trump to consider Luna as his running mate.”
Ethics of Prediction Markets
6:41 to 8:31
Discussion on the ethics of prediction markets and insider information.
“Why are you allowed to bet, period, on who Trump is going to pick for his vice president?”
The Impact of Insider Betting
8:31 to 12:23
Analysis of how insider betting exploits economic disparity and affects society.
“I mean, again, this is just so incredibly scummy that this is our economy now.”
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14:00 to 16:40
Learn about a new podcast discussing women's sports highlights and stories.
“And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week.”
Investigation of ICE Shooting Incident
17:30 to 28:00
A deep dive into the background of an ICE officer involved in a shooting.
“He told me that I don't need to be answering questions for anybody, that all I needed to know was that it was a justified shooting and that he did do it.”
The ICE Shooting Controversy
28:00 to 39:20
Discussion on the implications of recent ICE shootings and issues with law enforcement practices.
“I mean, if you haven't seen the video, what are you even doing?”
Introduction to Yamanika's Podcast
42:02 to 42:37
Learn about Yamanika's new podcast, 'You're the Problem', and its focus.
“New episodes weekly every Wednesday as part of my new network, the Dear Chelsea Network.”
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Tim Dillon's Critique of J.D. Vance
42:37 to 48:44
Discussion on Tim Dillon's sharp comments regarding J.D. Vance and the administration's failures.
“Vance on Joe Rogan, where he sort of postures like he's just some guy, you know, doesn't really have any power to do anything.”
The Ineffectiveness of Military Strategy
48:44 to 55:27
Analyzing the failures of conventional warfare and the implications of drone technology.
“So even that quote unquote analysis he offered just days ago has already completely fallen apart.”
Reflections on Societal Fractures
55:27 to 56:45
A contemplative discussion on social issues in the context of historical events like Weimar.
“but if you jaywalk, you know, you will get a ticket from the flock camera.”
Transcript
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2:25Turning now to insider trading, Our great friend of the show, Philip Wegman, out with a great story over at the Wall Street Journal. Let's put it up here on the screen. The new Washington Temptation, Inside Information and a Prediction Market Account. And they detail multiple instances inside the White House or around the White House, members of Congress and others who are complicit and or allegedly complicit in insider trading with some very eyebrow-raising accusations. So let's start with the first one, which is inside the White House, back in April, people began to panic. Why? Because they found multiple suspicious trades on Polymarket where anonymous accounts made over$600 ,000 correctly betting on an April ceasefire announcement.
3:13Because of Polymarket's anonymity whenever it comes to their account status, they have no idea who these people were. All they were able to do was release a March memo telling staff they are prohibited from using non-public information for financial benefit. However, there are a few other interesting ones. Let's put the next one up there on the screen. They talk here about how, an anecdote. Over lunch at the Stoball House, a popular members-only social club in Tampa, U.S. Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida told associates in the summer of 2024 that she knew Trump would choose Vance to be his vice president, according to people familiar with the conversation.
3:52She said she had tipped off Rogan O 'Hanley, a popular MAGA influencer known as D.C. Drano, about Trump's pending decision so that he could use the information to place a winning bet on Polymarket. Now, to be clear, Paulina Luna and O 'Hanley both deny the accusation, and apparently it is being investigated by the CFTC, the Commodities Future Trading Commission. Apparently she has filed some separate thing where she says it's a fall castigation. I'm just laying out the details. O 'Hanley, by the way, has separately told associates that he was behind a long-shot attempt, mostly by social media, to get Trump to consider Luna as his running mate.
4:30And when the congresswoman told O 'Hanley that Vance would get the nod instead, he placed a winning bet on Polymarket, the person said. Again, they have denied it. But that's one little anecdote that we have over there. We also have D3, just probably the most insane example that I've ever seen. Trump's teleprompter operator is now on unpaid leave for alleged prediction market bets on Trump speeches. And apparently it's not the White House that flagged this. It was Calci. The chief enforcement officer over at Calci contacted federal regulators about bets allegedly made about what the president would say in a public address.
5:08The White House press secretary said the president is aware of the situation, which she described as unfortunate and a disgrace, but has not yet said that he would be fired. ABC News had reported Thursday that Gabriel Perez, who has been operating Trump's teleprompter since 2016, used inside knowledge to win more than$100 ,000, betting on what the president would say in big speeches. The chief enforcement officer of Kalshi said that their surveillance team flagged, investigated, and referred those trades to the CFTC. But you could see pretty specific. And this is where, you know, Kalshi, look, I guess good for you.
5:44Thank you for reporting this. But why do we have prediction markets on what Trump is going to say, period, in every single speech that he says? They have prediction markets on the number of times that he'll say these things. And by the way, there are viral reels or TikToks all over of guys who are sitting there betting on Trump saying the word low IQ or something like that this week and then sitting there sweating their bets, cheering. Many of these go viral. I'm almost certain that they're paid by some company or others. They're like, this is, too, how you can get rich, betting on these. Prediction market.
6:17I mean, it's scum behavior. Anybody else see all the Calci advertising around the World Cup? Anybody else see old Timothee Chalamet? Man, that'll hurt. That won't hurt. I'll be honest. I love Chalamet. So seeing the Cal Street commercial, it killed me. But look, this is the reality. It's the sports betting playbook. You know, they allegedly report these types of things, but nobody asked the bigger question. Why do we have this in the first place? Why are you allowed to bet, period, on who Trump is going to pick for his vice president? What are some of the other examples here in the Wall Street Journal?
6:50I mean, all kinds of stuff like - Well, we got another good one. And remember our old friend Mark Moran? Yes. So this is the guy who is, I guess, running for Senate in Virginia as an independent. He put out that weird video that everyone was saying it looked like an alien and inhabited his body. It does a lot of weird hand gestures. Anyway, he had already gotten caught for allegedly insider trading. And he came out and said, oh, I was doing it to prove a point about how bad this is. OK. Well, he's another one who's in here who got a tip from someone who worked at Heritage Foundation. he alleges it was this guy Jake Denton Jake Denton denies it that Vance was going to be the VP he placed a bet and told some other friends that they should get in on the action based on this intel from the Heritage Foundation and you know it was in the grand scheme of things as far as these things go small potatoes made over$600 on the exchange just shows you how endemic this is though because I keep thinking about you know we're getting these like basically penny ante examples of this you know the teleprompter operator making 100 grand.
7:50That's a lot of money for most people. But you've got people who are making millions in these schemes. You had that 60 Minutes report that connected nine different accounts who were making millions betting on different military operations with a 98 % success rate. You're telling me they're just getting lucky? Of course not. These are insiders who are racking up millions of dollars. And then, of course, you couple on top of that, like, all of the market manipulations from Trump. You think they're not profiting on all of these tweets that come out from Trump talking about different companies, talking about whatever's happening with the Iran war, et cetera.
8:30And the latest sort of overt play in this regard, we can put D4 up on the screen. I mean, again, this is just so incredibly scummy that this is our economy now. Trump media pitched$100 ,000 monthly fee for a fastest feed of the U.S. president's post. And this is explicitly why would you pay$100 ,000 for that? Because you want to trade off. Right. A month so that you could trade off of it so that you could be the first one into the market after Trump tweets out like, hey, loving Microsoft this month or whatever it is that he puts out. Or Iran, oil. I mean, if you're an oil trader, have you ever read the book Flash Boys by Michael Lewis?
9:10It was a very, very good book. It came out probably almost 15 years ago at this point. I'm sure things have changed, but he detailed the original kind of high-frequency trading and what you're talking about, the first-to-market news, where even milliseconds make a difference because that way you can place micro bets. It's basically a tax on the entire market system. That's what this is. It's overt. They're literally like, hey, we have a post, which we know will be market moving, and you have to pay first to get access to it. Okay, I mean, makes sense if you're a private company and you're aggregating this information.
9:42Not when you're the person creating the information and then selling for the right to do it, especially whenever you are the president of the United States. Yeah, it's so gross. And I mean, look, it's exactly as you said, where, yeah, look, we're focused on all this piddly nonsense. And I don't mean to downplay it. As you said, 100K, that's a lot of money. But there are people out there They're making hundreds of millions of dollars in bets on oil, which we all know it's out in the open. We've done segments on this in the first place. So it's both at the micro and the macro level. If anything, you're like, why are you selling this money for so little?
10:13And just to give everybody an inside example that involves us here at the show, the only thing stopping me from making a shit pot of money on Graham Plattner dropping out is my own ethics. But it shouldn't be that way. Because guess what? Ryan, and we talked about this on AMA, Ryan had heard basically the full story about what was coming. They were waiting for it to come out. We had this 48 hours. I could have made 99 to 1 money on a prediction market if I wanted to. Same with weed. I remember reporting out that weed story about how Trump was going to reschedule weed. I was on the phone making calls trying to confirm the story.
10:43But it's funny. As I was reporting it and word starts to get out, I can watch the – there's some ETF or index fund which tracks weed stocks. I think it's called the MSOS or something. I'm watching this thing start to climb up, right? And I'm using this as part of a story. But what stopped me from buying it? Nothing. Is that illegal? I don't think so. Right. I'm not a government official. I can do whatever I want. I technically have access to this non-public information, but not through nefarious means or any of that. I'm just doing my job. Nothing stopped me from making ninety nine to one money other than my disgust at these people and this industry.
11:20It should not be that way. I can guarantee you there's not a lot of people who are going to do that. Right. And that's the issue, I think. Well, with this entire you shouldn't even be able to in the first place. Also, that is not even fair because I literally had inside information. So did Ryan. So did our whole crew over here. Well, that's not fair because it's a public marketplace, which means we're basically stealing money. It's a parimutuel trade. We're taking somebody else's money from this. That shows you where you got some guy out there who's like, oh, this is an easy way for me to make 1 % on my money, which please contact me for personal financial advice.
11:56if that's somebody else who's doing something like that. But you do have a lot of dumb money, which is out there in good faith with no inside info, which is trading on this stuff. And is it really fair that I could steal that person's money just because of the job that I have? I don't think so. I just don't. It's only going to get worse. I mean, as the economic situation becomes worse, as people become more hopeless, as AI takes jobs, the more desperate people are, the more these markets will flourish. and the more that the money of the lower classes will be funneled into the pockets of insiders.
12:33I mean, that's what's going on here. You see it so clearly that, you know, pay$100 ,000 a month to get early access to Trump's tweets. Like, normal people are not going to have the money to do that. So who's going to benefit from that? Obviously, it's going to be big players, going to be people who are already wildly wealthy. Or if you happen to be, you know, Trump or a Trump family member or a close Trump associate who knows what he's going to tweet out before he tweets it out, you're in prime position to be able to profit off of all of this. So it's yet another funnel from the poor and the working class up to the wealthy and insiders and elites in this country.
13:07And, yeah, it's grotesque. It's a disaster. And it's increasingly, you know, this is the substitute for the American dream. Instead of work hard, play by the rules, it's hope you get some insider tips so that you can make your own bank the way that the play that play the game that the big boys play and get your own chance at the good life through betting in these prediction markets. That's all it is. All right, let's get to the next one. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and iHeart Women's Sports.
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16:40Last week, we covered the killing of an immigrant in Maine by an ICE officer. We now know the identity of that ICE agent, a guy by the name of David Briette. And his former wives, as well as some of his family members, are speaking out, talking about how mentally unstable he is, his violent tendencies, how they had to take him to court, how he was violent against those wives and his children. Let's go ahead and take a listen to one of those wives who bravely went on the record talking about her experience with him. David, back in November, brought up that he had accepted a job with ICE. I thought of that.
17:16It was just a delusional thing because I'm used to him talking crazy, so to speak. So I said, yeah, sure you are, buddy. You know, I didn't realize that he was actually working for ICE until yesterday. day and I was completely shocked because I'm like, how do you keep getting into these jobs where you're around guns all the time? I asked him what was going on. He told me that I don't need to be answering questions for anybody, that all I needed to know was that it was a justified shooting and that he did do it. And he claimed that this man had tried to run him over. And I said, I don't see that in anything.
17:51And I've watched it from all angles. All I seen is how the car was going in circle after the fact. And then he's like, well, I need you to lie about my character because this is how, like, this is what it comes down to is my character. I don't want you talking about any of the abuse in our relationship. Like, this is literally about me, actually. I told him that I was not going to lie for him, that I've waited years to speak my truth. I've been silenced long enough, and now I need to come out with everything because a man lost his life. It was abuse, not only to me, but to our daughter. And even being divorced from him, I've dealt with harassing phone calls, threats of him wanting to kill me.
18:31I believe that this man was murdered. I believe that David's mental health played a part in what happened. I think what happened was he was standing there during that operation, had a PTSD moment and hit fight or flight mode. and unfortunately a man lost his life due to it. So this gives you a window into the type of people who are being hired and the complete lack of vetting, I would say intentionally, because obviously Stephen Miller and others want there to be a level of fear and cruelty that is evident on the streets. You can put the AP reporting up on the screen here. They have kind of a TikTok of this man's entire life.
19:13The headline here is, ICE officer in Maine shooting has history of violent behavior. Family and records say here's some of the details. The ex-wife whom the AP is not identifying because she fears retaliation she did later come forward alleged he had stalked and harassed her physically and verbally abused his daughter according to multiple requests for temporary protection orders. Briette tackled his teenage daughter and smashed spaghetti in her hair. During another outburst, he dragged his daughter around the house as she cried. Let's go and put the next one up on the screen. According to a message that one of the ex-wives shared with AP, he repeatedly called her disgusting, suggested she and the other women and girls in her bloodline should die.
19:56Quote, all of you should have your effing throats cut, the voicemail said that the AP listened to. Yeah, you should. Am I threatening that I'm going to do that? Nope, nope. But do I think that you should have your effing throats cuts or should have had them cut? Yep. This is the man who was hired by ICE. Let's put the next one up on the screen. The lawsuit that Breyette filed in late 2023 against the Maine Community College System, which administered training where he was earlier injured, said he was still significantly impaired in his inactivities and in his daily living. The suit alleged his post-concussive injuries impaired his cognitive functioning and impaired his memory.
20:35So his life story is, and you had another relative who came forward who said, I cut off contact with this guy because I was fearful that he was going to be violent towards me. He was diagnosed with extreme bipolar and ADHD when he was young, had severe mental health episodes, including trying to kill himself when he was 12 years old, tried to enlist in the army out of high school. The army said no because of the mental health history. They encouraged him to go off of his meds and try again, which he did in a year. Then he ends up enlisting in the Army. I think he was in the Maine Army National Guard, deploys to Afghanistan.
21:12You also have a quote in here of a family member who said, in Afghanistan, this is really where he really was trained to be violent, trained to be what they described as a monster, comes back, is floating around all different jobs. At one point, he's working as a corrections officer and, you know, racking up these violent incidents with his wives and with his children. And then, And as the one ex-wife says, he called her and said, hey, I'm going to be an ICE agent. She was like, yeah, sure. Yeah, sure, right. I'm sure the government wants to give you a gun and put you in charge of anything. She thought he was literally delusional.
21:44But no, they actually, actually did that. Let's put E6 up on the screen. This is some details from the second ex-wife here said that he is capable of this level of extreme violence. She also felt the need to speak out about this ICE agent. And this is just complete, complete insanity, especially given, Sagar, the way that these ICE, I mean, it's insanity, period, end of story, to give a guy like this a gun and the level of power that he has. But especially when you consider the level of impunity that they have been allowed to exercise, the amount of violence that they have perpetrated. This was not the first or the last killing from an ICE agent, unfortunately.
22:27And so you can see in their rush to bring all of these new guys in, send them out into American streets. They've got an absolute psycho wife and child beater that they put into this position. And now a man is dead and his family is missing him. Yeah. Brouillette, by the way, did not respond to any request for comment whenever he was asked about this. A lot of this, as you said, is pulled from court records, from AP interviews. He was given a chance. He was contacted by the Associated Press. If he were to do so, we would update a story in terms of what he said. But yes, zooming out, we do know that he recently joined ICE, had recently, it seemed, taken a – what is it?
23:05A 2025 had taken a real estate exam. It does seem like Afghanistan PTSD and all of that became a significant part of his story on top of what was already, according to these court records, looks like very volatile behavior. And look, I mean, I think that it is incumbent upon law enforcement, military generally, that if you're going to put immense powers in people's hands, that you need to have some level of trust. And unfortunately, this is a very common story, I think, both in a lot of branches of law enforcement. The body cam is the worst thing that ever happened to them. And part of the problem in this incident, body cam wasn't being worn, which is against— No, it was worn.
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23:44Sorry, worn. It was not turned on. It was not turned on. And so you had basically he said, he said situation. Then you had the initial statement by the DHS where, I mean, I said it, they're hit. If you can't say I feared for my life and discharged my weapon, that's all you've got. Because if you have I fear for public safety and discharge my weapon and a man was killed, good luck. There is no single justification use of force doctrine. And, you know, I previously, we talked about many of these other instances, and I know it's unpopular. I think most of them you're probably going to get off in a court of law just because of the extraordinary deference that police get in law enforcement shootings.
24:24Not this one. Definitely not. Whenever you have a moving vehicle where, you know, against your own guidance, you try to move, you try to stop said vehicle, and then you can't even say, I feared for my life in that moment. And maybe I don't know what he said to the initial investigators. Obviously, he probably can't speak because of, for legal reasons. But, you know, if you've got this level of documented problems in your history and then putting guns in those people's hands and then it becomes in a hyper politicized moment, it's a disaster. Well, and let me play another aspect of this because we touched on this some when we were covering.
24:57This killing occurred right on the heels of a very similar situation in Texas where an immigrant was killed. And so Tom Homan went on the Sunday shows and Margaret Brennan challenged him because he's like, well, they should just comply. And she said, well, how do they even know that this is, you know, a law enforcement operation? Because you've got unmarked cars. The guy in Texas, his family explicitly said he thought he was being carjacked, which any reasonable person, you've got these psycho unmarked cars trying to, you know, push you off the road. He had a bunch of equipment in the back of his van.
25:30He's thinking they're trying to steal my stuff from my work vehicle. Tom Hellman was challenged on this and really ultimately crumbles under pressure and admits that there may have been a problem with the way that the protocol went down here. This is E0. Let's take a listen to that. These were fatal shootings, of course, in Houston and in Maine. And in Houston, it was an unmarked car. So when you're saying don't resist, these individuals who were chasing the man who died, they didn't have markings on that vehicle that would allow for him to know that they were ICE. It just looked like a car coming after them in the videos.
26:10No, they have emergency lights. Officers have insignia. So when they get that car and post a car, you can clearly see the law enforcement officers. Well, in the video that has been public, it's not a marked car. These people, I'm not saying it's a marked car, but they have emergency lights and sirens. So when they pull somewhere, they want to activate the emergency lights. A lot of police departments, I'm in New York City right now, a lot of NYPD officers are driving unmarked vehicles. And that helps them find people that don't want to be found, right? So, you know, but bottom line is, we'll see when the investigation plays out.
26:45But they would be alive today if they simply complied with a vehicle stop by federal law enforcement. Just comply. If you don't think you've been treated right and they had no reason to stop you, then there's avenues to take them to court, to sue. Well, the family of the man in Houston said that he thought he was being robbed because it was an unmarked vehicle. Not that it was law enforcement at all. They had emergency lights. They activate emergency lights, blue light. You know, in my vehicle, I drive around with my security detail. You've seen that on video? Because we haven't. Seen what on video, ma 'am?
27:21That there were lights? Because in the videos that we've seen, there aren't. And because there weren't body cameras, it is hard to substantiate some of what you were saying. Okay. Well, I have not seen the videos, but I'm saying our vehicles are equipped with emergency lights. Now, if they didn't activate the lights, again, I haven't seen that video. if they didn't activate the lights, then there's an issue there, right? But I'm saying they are equipped with lights. So let me just caveat that. They should have been equipped with lights and sirens, but I do not know specifically if they activated those lights.
27:54I mean, that's pretty devastating there. And then to claim, Sagar, you haven't seen the video? I mean, if you haven't seen the video, what are you even doing? Like, this is your job. You're supposed to be overseeing this. You're supposed to care about whether the right protocol was filed, followed. This is an extremely high profile killing on your watch. And you're claiming, oh, I didn't actually get a chance to look at the video. Like what complete and total bullshit. And she just has him dead to rights there. I mean, we saw the video there. There's no video. There's no emergency lights. I agree.
28:27I mean, in terms of being stopped by an unmarked vehicle, like, yeah, if you flash your lights, I think most people would stop. Or if you don't, then at least, you know, you know what's going on. But if you're coming up and somebody is coming up behind you, then a reasonable person could say, I had no idea what was going on here, especially when you're in your vehicle. And then it's even worse because – I'm not saying he deserved to die, like period. But it's even worse that he wasn't even the person that was supposed to be stopped in both of these instances. I think Ryan and Juan talked about it.
28:55I mean if you look at the story of this Colombian guy who was killed in Maine, it is honestly kind of insane. Like he was the right wing – he seemed to have been like a right wing Colombian nationalist. I don't know what he was doing here. if he's a right-wing Columbia nationalist, but okay. But, I mean, just to show you, people are complex and a little different, and it does demonstrate that they didn't even know who they were stopping, because they were supposed to try and stop some sort of, they were trying to stop another person whenever they pulled this guy over, and then initially he is shot in a bad incident like this.
29:26But given the background here, it will demonstrate that ICE is going to have serious problems. I also just think this is a preview of what the next three years are going to look like. Like in terms of Democrats, if they take the House of Representatives and if they investigate or if they initiate any sort of congressional review of ICE hiring, how many more, David Brod? And like this will validate like the, look, and I'm not a cab or any of that, but I know for certain that if you rush things and you don't do like a methodical job and you have a bunch of people who slip through the cracks or who are intentionally pushed aside or you don't initiate types of processes.
30:06Like, you're the government. You put guns in people's hands. Like, you're going to own that entire process. That's going to be—seriously, I really think this is going to be a massive problem for the administration. A brief moment where Mark Wayne Mullen comes out and says, we're not going to do vehicle stops. And we're sort of accustomed to this vehicle stop thing now. This is new. In previous administrations, I think including the first Trump administration, Vehicle stops were only used with ICE agents or any sort of Border Patrol or any of these affiliated agencies in situations that were relatively extreme, where you knew who the target was.
30:38They were violent. There was some sort of criminal record. It was extraordinary circumstances. Now this is just par for the course. And as you can see in both of these instances, these guys weren't even the target. So they just literally were like, oh, they look brown. Maybe they're undocumented. Let's pull them over in this, again, very, very aggressive manner. No lights in terms of the one down in Texas. We don't know in terms of the one up in Maine because we have more limited camera footage there. But in any case, this is relatively new development. Mark Wayne Mullen says we're going to stop doing this for now.
31:07Trump immediately, apparently after Stephen Miller yelling and blowing his top over the pullback, Trump immediately comes out the next day and says, no, we're going to continue. The other piece that I want to layer on here is, you know, in a bunch of these instances, like these ICE agents should go to prison. I mean, if you're the guy in Maine, there is even DHS is saying that they discharged their weapons out of fear of public safety. That is not a defense in a court of law. That man should be alive today. So in any case, you've had all of these instances of ICE agents and CBP who are starting fights, who are aggressive, who are assaulting protesters and immigrants themselves, where there should be investigations.
31:48There should be court cases. Let's take a look at E9. This is a report from the New York Times that is saying that federal agents were told the FBI is no longer going to investigate ICE confrontations. And the TLDR here, by the way, the FBI denies this, but there were multiple federal agents that talked to the New York Times about this new guidance that they received. In any case, the TLDR here is that instead of the FBI investigating to see, OK, was it the protesters fault? Was it the immigrants' fault? Were they actually assaulting ICE agents or were ICE agents involved in misconduct, potentially prosecutable misconduct?
32:24Now it's going to be kicked to an investigative unit within ICE itself. So ICE investigating itself. You can imagine how much is going to come out from that. And then in terms of their level of trust and when they come out with these claims that, oh, this immigrant was trying to murder an ICE agent. and he's lucky he escaped with his life, et cetera. Let's take a look at where the rubber meets the road, which is in a court of law when you actually have to produce evidence of these wild claims that have been made by basically everyone affiliated with immigration throughout the administration. Put E8 up on the screen.
33:00This is a comprehensive review from The New York Times. The headline on this article was they were charged with assaulting ICE agents. The cases are crumbling. Here are the numbers. 558 people were charged with assault of an immigration agent. 191 of those dismissed. 22 outright acquitted. You ready for how many convicted out of 558? Four. Four. You've had 246 that pled guilty. You have 95 that are still pending. And then you have a whole rash of other ones where they just dropped the charges. They just walked away from charging the people altogether where the thing just completely fell apart.
33:40And you have instances here, Sagar, that are so wild where, for example, you had an ICE agent that busted open someone's window, injured themselves busting open the window, and then charged that person with assault for the injuries that they caused to themselves. You have an example in this article of two women who were on their way somewhere, saw that ICE was doing an action and pulled into a parking lot to observe from a distance away. Afterwards, they left. ICE agents followed them, again, had this very aggressive interaction with them and ended up claiming that they had assaulted the ICE agents where there was camera footage that proved that was not the case whatsoever.
34:23You have an instance with Greg Bovino, I think, that was directly involved in where he beat up some immigrant. Then he charged the immigrant with assault. A jury came back and said, no, you people started this situation. So they they have been rebuked numerous times for making up incidents, for lying about what actually occurred. And under scrutiny, these cases frequently, frequently fall completely apart. And in many instances, and there's a quote in here from an expert, they say, you know, It's actually the ICE agents that should be charged. Like in a rational world, they would be facing criminal charges.
34:57And so to your point about the political fallout, this is exactly the path. You know, if Democrats get power in the House, certainly, or possibly also in the Senate, and certainly moving forward into 2028, if they end up with control of government, this is the sort of thing that the base is going to be pushing them to do, to look through the records of all of these ICE agents, to go through the vetting process, to see who is there. And obviously there's a huge push to get rid of the agency altogether. And when you have situations like this, you know, total psycho with brain damage and mental illness and a wife beater and a child beater who was given a gun, that makes the case that, yes, this whole thing, we need a different process for handling immigration and forcing, you know, immigration, forcing the border, that this whole thing is so rotten that it just cannot persist and go forward.
35:44I mean, I hate to say it. I do think it'll probably come to pass. I mean, I will say, you know, you got 246 here, you pled guilty. So it's not like, you know, half of them roughly did plead guilty. So it's not like it's invented out of whole cloth. I actually. But let me just say prior to Trump, there were you know what the conviction rate was? I'm sure it was 90 percent. 100 percent. They have never failed on this. And now it's like, you know, they're just throwing it at the wall. Like any time someone just irritates an ICE agent, they charge him with assault, send him through the court system, try to make their life miserable.
36:13Because prosecutorial discretion usually meant that you would only bring very extreme cases to these. Also, if you're not doing much enforcement, then you're also not going to have many cases. But look, I have said it before. They blew the entire political sack whenever it came to the way that they wanted to do enforcement. There were a lot of different ways this all could have been done. A lot more people could have been deported and a lot more illegals could have left the country and you just didn't have to do literally any of this. They decided to go in this direction for the full show of force, and the entire country has basically turned – or most of the country has turned against it.
36:47Even people who are dramatically like me who are on the side, largely because – it's not just the political fallout. It's also just like chaos. It's like, guys, we can't live in a crazy world where you've got unmarked cars and people are getting shot. I mean like I literally went to that town of Biddeford. It's a very small town. When I saw the news, I was like, I cannot believe this, that this is happening in Biddeford, of all places. And it's not just because I've been there. Houston, too. Like, yeah, Houston's a city chock full of illegals. But it's like you can't just have it so that people are getting shot and pulled over.
37:20That's exactly—look, people turned on the border because of Biden, who left it wide open. Tens of millions of people came here illegally. Nobody really knows. The number is roughly 10 to 12 million, according to the U.S. government before, under Biden, just in case people think. That number is politicized. People found that intolerable. I certainly find that completely intolerable. I do think what we find here is now a situation where what you talked about there with the Democrats and their turn on. It's going to be very similar to a lot of the way that MAGA came into the office in January of 2025, where, you know, the whole like January 6th, we have to go after the prosecutors.
37:55We have to pardon many of the people who were involved. It became an issue which was absolutely 100 percent core to the Republican base. And I mean, they did get a lot of what they wanted. And I think it will be very similar with the Democrats. I don't know how popular it might probably be a little bit more popular, if I'm willing to guess, whenever it comes to that time. I have no idea. But in a sense, it doesn't matter because it will become the type of mandate that people will focus on. I mean, I do – I personally blame the Trump administration for taking this – I also really blame the Republican Party, which stood at every turn and stopped any of the other institutional ways that you could have immigration.
38:35This could be a, I think, 80-20 issue easily if you had done it properly with mandatory e-verify and like genuine – if you had focused on like rapist criminals, if we had no C-cot, we had no Minneapolis. I mean, imagine what this administration—no Iran war, all those things together. We could be living in a totally different world. And then it would just be like human rights activists who are bitching and moaning all the time like they do no matter what. But now that is the popular position where you've got the median white college-educated lib is screaming about abolish ICE. That is not the situation in January of 2019.
39:14So I can see the future quite clearly. at least where things are going. Well, speaking of people turning on the Trump administration, good transition to Tim Dillon here talking about J.D. Vance. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks?
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42:36So we talked a little bit last week about J.D. Vance on Joe Rogan, where he sort of postures like he's just some guy, you know, doesn't really have any power to do anything. Just calling, you know, the way he sees it on the Epstein files and the Iran war, etc. Tim Dillon really had some fun with this one, went in on J.D. Vance and really the administration as a whole. And also, by the way, anyone who continues to support the administration, who we said must be the dumbest people on Earth. Let's go ahead and take a listen to Tim Dillon sounding off on J.D. Vance. This is the thing when like J.D.
43:09Vance goes on Rogan and goes, well, you know, they have this whole discussion about the Epstein docs. And J.D. is like, I'll go to my death believing it was a larger conspiracy. You know, it's it's kind of like these guys like, well, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? It's like, no, you're the you're the vice president. What are you talking about? jd vance is talking about this like he's a guy at a bar in the town i grew up in on long island where he'd be like i'll always believe it was a conspiracy you sure that guy owns a pool company he's he's gonna he's gonna be like yeah what are you gonna do i'll always believe someone on there this guy's the vice president of the United States of America going on the biggest podcast in the world going yep I read all the files Trump's innocent also I'll always believe there was a greater conspiracy there I'll always think something was going on but what am I gonna do I'm the vice president that's J.D.
44:10Vance's character arc right now is his whole entire thing is just telling people what the vice president can't do like what about the war in Iran he goes you know no, there's not much I can do. I just kind of hang out and, you know, watch as I'm part of the administration that betrays its voters and does the opposite of everything it said it was going to do. I just kind of hang out and, you know, this Epstein thing, who knows? This is the, they keep trying to play this game where they're like this folksy, kind of like relatable, like, yeah, these fucking elites, these fucking elites with these, they're fucking the kids.
44:50They're stealing your money. What? Who? You are doing it. You're the ones who are doing it. And they're relying on the fact that some of their most ardent supporters, the ones who aren't directly being paid off, are the stupidest people in the world. So that still works on them. They're like, yeah, fucking Hillary. Hey, Hillary Clinton. fucking Hillary Clinton. The guy, they're in the White House. They have the Congress. They have the Senate. They have the Supreme Court. It is them. It is now them. I don't want to hear about the deep state anymore. There's a lot there. I mean, I kept thinking actually about Thomas Massey was like, Trump's saying the elections are rigged.
45:41We won everything. What are you talking about? Like, you're in the White House. We have the House. We have the Senate. We have the Supreme Court. We won everything. What are you talking about? The elections were rigged. They were rigged for you. I mean, it's similar vibe here where he's like, you can't continue to sit here, J.D. Vance or anyone else, and have this whole folksy like, yeah, we're really going to stick it to those elites. It's like, no, that is you now. You are in control. This rest, the buck stops with you people. You don't get to just like divorce yourself from that reality. And pretend like you're just some armchair quarterback or some pundit watching this thing from afar.
46:17Jadie said something very interesting in the podcast. He said, I'm not a public commentator. I do my best to work things on the inside. And I was like, well, man, you are on the Joe Rogan podcast. You kind of are public. Do you see what I'm saying? It's like, well, you know, pundits I just talked about in the ice block. I'm like, OK, I support massive immigration enforcement. I think they fucked it up. He can't even say that, right, because that would cause a crisis. So everything with Epstein was like Trump did nothing wrong. And then he'll even then you're like, I'll put my hands up. We did mishandle portions of it.
46:49But there's nothing damaging in it about Trump. You're like, oh, my God. And then the stuff about Israel and the U.S. intelligence. I mean, this is why even when we say it, he's the highest U.S. official ever to confirm to say Epstein had links to Israeli and U.S. intelligence. Yeah. No U.S. official has ever uttered those words ever before. Current official. but no evidence to back it up. Yeah. No deep familiarity with what he's saying. Is that an off the cuff comment? It's like, dude, are you just listening to a podcast talking about that? Or did you see intelligence? Right. And this is why it's like, if you're going to say anything that you need to know exactly what you're talking about, you just speak from a position of authority and you, at the very least, like splitting the difference between I'm not a public commentator where you're literally public commentating is in my opinion, like the worst of all of it because okay.
47:36On Iran, we all know what you're like for, So Rogan asked him directly, would you have handled things differently? He has to talk around it. He's like, well, the president has even said, you know, J.D. would have handled it differently. He can't even say, yeah, I would have. This is a fucking disaster because he has to praise Trump. He has to, you know, pay lip service to, well, we can't let the Iranians have a nuclear weapon. When I'm like, I don't even think you believe that. I don't even know if you believe that at all. Think about how poorly his analysis, such as it was, aged just from whenever that was recorded.
48:08He was like, oh, this, you know, back and forth. It's a blip. We're going to get back to the negotiating. Oh, are you? Are you? Because it doesn't feel like a blip right now. You know, now the Iranians are like, we're done negotiating with you. There is this theoretical 10-day proposal, et cetera. But they're pissed. They're, you know, bombing desalination plants, killing our service members in Jordan. And we are bombing their civilian infrastructure and, you know, threatening all sorts of things as well. So doesn't feel like this is all just a little bit of a blip on our way back, you know, days away from getting some larger deal.
48:44So even that quote unquote analysis he offered just days ago has already completely fallen apart. There was another part of this where Tim really went in on the Iran war in particular and sort of the overall track record of the Trump administration. Let's go ahead and take a listen to that. This guy's on a press tour for a book. We're days away from troops on the ground in Iran. The Middle East is a total nightmare. The economy is a nightmare. The Straits of Hormuz, there's going to be like a massive oil crisis soon. And they've given so much money to big tech and AI, the flock cameras, all of this stuff.
49:29all of this, they're building a surveillance state with this money. They're building a digital surveillance state with the money. And he's got to do this kind of like, oh, shucks. Can you, yeah, isn't it wacky? Isn't it wacky? He goes into this whole thing. Like, we're weeks away from Trump nuking Iran. J.D. Vance going back on with Joe. You know, isn't this crazy, Joe? Like, I never imagined as a little boy growing up in Appalachia that I'd end up here talking to you after we just nuked Iran. And he said something that I think was actually very insightful. He's like, you know, the truth is these wars, they don't work anymore.
50:12Like, you know, war didn't work in Afghanistan. It didn't work in Iraq. It's not working here. And he's like, you know, that's part of what it's not working for Russia and Ukraine. and part of what is pushing towards a potentially really disastrous, insane, like, nuclear outcome is that this conventional military approach, it doesn't get you where you want to go anymore. And China has kind of recognized that. They're not out starting wars. They're not spreading money around. Let's invest in infrastructure. Let's get tied into your economy. And that that's been far more successful for them in terms of building up, you know, their might domestically and also being able to do what they want to do and secure the supply lines they want to secure around the world.
50:51I thought that was actually a very insightful view of where we are because it's true. You know, even he says they work for Israel because Israel is willing to, you know, just go completely buck wild and commit genocide. Is this working for Israel? Even Israel? No, no. You know, I mean, did their genocide in Gaza, has that really made things better for them? Their state has its own problems and is in a sort of their own existential potential catastrophe of their own making because of their insane actions too. Yeah, it is. It's fascinating, actually. If you want to think about it like in historical terms, I was thinking a lot about this conflict in the context of World War I, where before the First World War, there was something called the cult of the offensive in a lot of these militaries, where this idea of you have these gigantic armies with mans and arms that you can just take over places.
51:38But what they didn't foresee was that the cult of the offensive, always running forward, would run into something called the machine gun. And so what happens very quickly on the Western Front is the trench warfare. I actually think the drones are very analogous to that. Where prior to a drone technology, the conventional United States military could very easily be able to shoot down incoming missiles to take over the Strait of Hormuz and all of that. And look, we still do retain the ability to take control of the Strait of Hormuz. we would just have to, oh, I don't know, occupy the entire country of Iran.
52:09But even if we were to occupy it, they wouldn't just be getting shot with bullets and missiles. They'd be really the number one way they would die, as we see currently in the Russia and Ukraine war, is they would die at the hands of these drones. And then the drones would disrupt the entire supply chain. So I think what the drone warfare and the development of the last just probably 10 years, I remember seeing some preliminary drone stuff in Syria, is that it has dramatically made it so that the entire entire conventional military apparatus, which was the peace dividend of the United States military post-Gulf War, basically evaporated overnight.
52:44And we're just going to have to deal with that. That's the truth. It's kind of like the battleship for people who are familiar with that, or even the original idea that aircraft carriers or that U.S. Navy assets were invulnerable. Prior to World War II, there was a genuine theory, a belief in the Navy that a battleship or any of these other naval assets could not be sunk by an aircraft. And then one war happened, and even though this was disproved by members of the United States Air Force or Army Air Corps or whatever, at the time, they just went forward. They're like, it's not possible. And then you get into a war with Japan, you're like, holy shit.
53:20They're like, what are we going to do about all these aircraft? I think the drone is very similar. And you have to rethink everything. And I'm only saying this in terms of that disrupts a fundamental theory of American power, which has existed for a year and my entire lifetime, before we were even born, frankly, in terms of the Cold War and all that. And to deal with that in real time requires people who are really intelligent, who think very deeply, who can recognize the stakes that are ahead of us. And I would say, I actually, I always believed that JD was a person like that, you know? And I mean, maybe he still is, but it It almost doesn't matter at this point because you had the chance to prove the ability to do differently.
54:03And if this is the best we can get is some half-assed ceasefire, which barely lasts for two weeks, that's not necessarily a reflection on you because it's mostly on Trump. But if your best efforts can only result in this, then it's a failure. I mean, what else can you call it? I don't know, frankly, if any of that really exists in our current political system, which is what makes me really dire thinking about it in the future. But I do think Tim's comments, I do think he's the most incisive political comedian, really, who is currently working, specifically on the surveillance state and others.
54:37It sends a chill because at the same, there are rival surveillance states in the world, Singapore and China. And call me unpatriotic, I would rather live there under their surveillance than ours. Because ours is private companies, local contracts oligarch you know whatever like selective enforcement of the rules here we simultaneously live in a surveillance state and a shithole at least over there it's nice you know it's like there's no gum or whatever on the streets and the law is equally applied to everyone and the government has total control yes i know that sounds authoritarian but like here we don't even have real authoritarianism it's like oligarchical authoritarianism we've got all like the worst aspects of authoritarianism without the upsides.
55:22Right. I saw somebody say, I saw somebody say, it's like, you know, in Los Angeles, it's like, you can shit in the streets and take fentanyl, but if you jaywalk, you know, you will get a ticket from the flock camera. And it's like, I'm only living in a world where both people are getting tickets. Right. But we don't live in that. So like, that's the blue example, the red example. I don't know. I'm trying to think of. Well, how about, I mean, going back to the insider trading thing, like, you know, you have a teleprompter operator, you're getting popped. If you're, you know, Jared Kushner or Steve Wyckoff or whoever who are doing their deals and profiting off of their position there, that's fine and good.
55:52You're never going to face the prosecution. So that's a perfect white-collar example, right? It's like, I want to live in a world where everybody gets equally prosecuted, but we don't have that. So it's like, can you really then, you know, want a surveillance system? So, yeah, I mean, things are bad. I just keep saying, I'm like, things are really bad. I've been on a long, you know, kick reading about, I know you are too, about Weimar. Oh, yeah. And, you know, not just Weimar, but like all of the fractures in society. And maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it's so impossible not to look at our current moment and to see so much of the same stuff.
56:24And you and I both know how long it takes to crawl your way out of something. I'll tell you what we're missing from the Weimar moment is a, I mean, we're not that the economy is great, but like a mass economic crisis. That's what we're missing. And, you know, we may be headed in that direction. So just hang tight for that. Thank you guys so much for watching. Appreciate it. We'll see you all later.
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