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25:19Why do they keep killing themselves and come to find out, OK, I'm giving away a little bit. But basically, they've been thwarted and their experiments are coming out in these crazy ways where they're sort of becoming convinced that the science that they accepted wasn't real and that there's no way for them to progress in science and specifically in quantum physics. And for reasons that I won't divulge, because that does give some away, it comes to be realized that they have, in fact, been thwarted and they are being prevented from making any further progress in this particular discipline and others as well.

25:50And so it's sort of reminded of that, reading his explanation of what he describes as the spiritual crisis that he's going through. So anyway, one more impact of AI that we're all going to have to grapple with.

26:03Emily Jashinsky:No, I mean, my mom grew up in one of those towns and a bunch of my family is still there. And we all have seen what happens. That was in Wisconsin. We've all seen what happens where opioids filled the gap. Yeah, that's right. I remember David Obey represented that district for a long time. And he said he regretted how ineffective the job training programs that they were promised after, I forget whether it was NAFTA or WTO, came in. And he ended up losing his seat, by the way, to Sean Duffy in 2010 before really the MAGA revolution flipped. That was a Dem district for 40 years. So people get really, really, really profoundly psychologically unsettled.

26:42Emily Jashinsky:And then, of course, our special interest field economy swoops in with something awful to fill the gap often. And that breeds more and more resentment and division and suffering. And it seems like we're heading straight down that road once again. Well, let's talk about one of the architects of that world that we live in now, Mitch McConnell. Shortly after I enrolled at Rasmussen, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. It was like a bomb had just been dropped in my life. I reached out to Rasmussen. They immediately were like, Rosa, take what time you need. You can come back when you're ready. We are cancer-free today.

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29:16Emily Jashinsky:We're joined now by Desiree Townsend, journalist who has been doing the Lord's work, tracking down what on earth is going on with Mitch McConnell, Senator Mitch McConnell. Desiree, thank you so much for being here. Of course. Thank you for having me. So as you know, the senator, at least from yesterday, I'm going to head over there shortly, soon again, is still hospitalized. So if you look closely at the statement his office had made, they said that he's been discharged. And the way they sort of framed it is they made it sound like he's being discharged from the hospital, but he's really not. He's just apparently being moved or currently in the rehabilitation facility of the hospital.

30:00Now, this is interesting because there was a viral video from yesterday that I think may have actually triggered this statement where a rapid CPR girl apparently walked through the hospital, walked through the public areas of the hospital on a different sort of business there. And she went to the rehabilitation floor and wing on the fourth floor of George Washington Hospital, and she didn't see his Capitol Police detail or him. So it's interesting as well, because if he's actually in rehabilitation and he's capable of being moved, you would almost immediately move him out of that hospital. There's paparazzi everywhere.

30:40It's also a teaching university. It's at a university. So there are, you know, 20 year olds everywhere following this story. You would want to move him out of that hospital and put him somewhere like Walter Reed. Senators have access to Walter Reed. I think John Fetterman had gone to Walter Reed not too long ago. So they have access to, Congress has access to Walter Reed. They have access to better facilities. If he's actually capable of being moved, why is he still there? So that's leading me to believe after, we're coming in on seven weeks now. It's leading me to believe that he cannot be moved.

31:18Desiree, I have so many questions for you, for him, for Stav. I mean, because there's so many pieces of this that don't make sense to me, right? First, we find out he's in the hospital. We hear, you know, that the EMS was called because of a heart attack. We get some images of him looking very bad being taken out of his home on a stretcher. We don't hear anything then for weeks. Then we get this message from him saying, oh, I suffered a minor fall. No stroke, no concussion. I'm good. But they want to keep me here indefinitely. OK, well, that doesn't really pair with what you're saying about how this is a small injury.

31:58No big deal. We've gotten a couple of proof of life photos. We have a few Republicans who have claimed that they've spoken on the phone and he's sharper than ever and he's good to go, et cetera, et cetera. We have not gotten any statement. You can correct me if I'm wrong about Lindsey Graham. You know, someone who's known for a very long time dying. dying. He put out something after the fact on, I believe it was on July 12th or the day after he finally put something out. But to your point, he didn't address it. There's a funeral today in Washington, D.C. That's right. Yes. Is he going to show up?

32:30Right. And so he puts out this statement, and you pointed this out, saying, oh, I won't be at Fancy Farm this week. And I've been to Fancy Farm. It's a big deal in Kentucky. But it seems like Lindsey Graham's funeral is maybe a bigger deal and we're not talking about that. I don't know. What are you gleaning from all of this? And what are some of the big questions that you have since you've been covering this so intently? So what I am kind of taking from these statements is I think somebody, most likely his staff or his wife, because a wife would largely be the one in charge of an advance directive and a living will.

33:04I believe they are haphazardly putting these statements together and putting them out without fully thinking them through. To me, it smells more of trying to buy more time and using every mechanism possible to do that. The other thing you have to keep in mind, I think this has kind of worried a lot of people in Washington, D.C. Elaine Chao is very well connected to China. She met with the vice president of the CCP three days after he had this event, cardiac arrest. And, you know, China has access to a lot of AI technology and the ability to make photos. And I think that's why maybe we haven't seen a video yet.

33:46So I think the question is, so I work in litigation as well. And I think you kind of have to look at what is the motive here? So originally, I thought the motive was to shut the US government down. Because without Senator McConnell's vote, they almost certainly cannot move forward appropriations. But Speaker Mike Johnson has, before they left for recess in the House, they've already started the process of reconciliation. So at least we ensure the military is funded. So if for some reason this war in Iran goes on for a longer amount of time, we at least have the resources to defend the country with the troops.

34:25So that takes China out of the equation and any foreign government that would want to see the government shut down for sort of a national security reason. So that motive's gone. So now we have this election, right? So we have this August 3rd date. That August 3rd date, I think it's really going to end up being nothing because the August 3rd refers to two different statutes of election laws in the state of Kentucky. Those two statutes aren't really reconciled right now, but it's something a court can easily reconcile. And it wouldn't really, in my opinion, it shouldn't harm a special election. We could still move forward with a special election.

35:09So that motive's gone. So the only motive left that I can really point to is keeping the staff paid. So the staff makes a lot of money. And the staff, I think, also has maybe potentially some of Elaine Chao's friends or family. I know there's a driver. I don't know if the driver is a friend of the family, but is paid by the senator's office. So at this point, the only motive I can point to is to keep the staff paid. You know, Desiree, one thing I saw floated, and let's just be clear, like they've given us no information. So we can't do anything but speculate, right? So just for people who are going through, what is possible?

35:51Because the things they put out don't make sense. There are big questions. It would be very, if he's doing so great, looking as good as he looks in these photos, shouldn't be hard to call into a news organ to talk to you, like anyone, right? So we could get some - Or show up to Lindsey Graham's funeral. Or show up to his funeral. I mean, something, right? Get something beyond what could be an easily generated AI photo, given the tools that we have at our disposal these days. So one theory that I saw, Desiree, is that let's say he's in he's alive, but he's in like a vegetative state where it's then on the family to decide, are you going to continue this care or are you going to effectively, sorry to be crude, but pull the block?

36:30And if that becomes public, then suddenly you have every one in the world with an opinion for the family about what they should do in this circumstance, given the political ramifications. And maybe they just don't want all of that public pressure on them at what is a very sensitive moment in their lives. What do you make of that potential theory? I flirted with that idea, and I do think that is a possibility. but it kind of, when Elaine Chao didn't immediately return from China, kind of throws that argument completely out the door because she was in China prior to his hospitalization. She then met with the vice president of China three days later, but she didn't actually return to the United States until closer to July 6th and then issued these statements that it didn't warrant her return to the United States.

37:22So if she is, in fact, in love with her husband, cares about his life and advance directive, you would think that, you know, I don't know, you would return sooner. So that, to me, it just doesn't point to somebody who's struggling with what do we do, end of life, do we pull the plug? And also, I don't know how close he was with his children because no one's seen them at the hospital. and there are a lot of us there. I'm not the only one there. There's other paparazzis that are staking out the hospital. No one's seen his kids. So I don't know if that's really the struggle.

38:03Emily Jashinsky:Sure, go ahead. Well, no, actually, that's so interesting because I was gonna ask next. I don't know that anybody has spent more time staking out the house or the hospital than you have. And this is such a bizarre story. Just that anecdote about people not seeing the kids is a really interesting aspect of this. And I feel like we're doing a true crime documentary here and it's endlessly fascinating. But what have you picked up on just atmospherically? What oddities have you observed from your position watching both the house and the hospital? What's it been like? It's it's all very, very odd. It's so tight lipped.

38:45There's really no movement or no appearances from family. and no one can really seem to find Elaine Chao of mainstream media. Even that photo where some paparazzi found her outside of George Washington Hospital. It all looked staged to me because what paparazzi wouldn't take a video and ask her questions? And so what was really interesting about all of that is I found another person at George Washington Hospital. He actually went and talked to that paparazzi. He's like, why didn't you take a video? Like, what's wrong with you? Why weren't you asking questions? And I guess the paparazzi was like, oh, I made a mistake.

39:28I hit the wrong button. That's, you don't make mistakes like that. I'm sorry. I'm new to this. I've only been doing journalism and filming and doing all of this for a year. You don't screw up like that. And you have enough time to fix it, which leads me to believe that paparazzi was not there to take video. He was there to take a photo, could have been tipped off by Elaine Chao, but she's missing. We can't find the kids. It's just very, very odd because usually you would have a family member issue a statement saying, please give us our privacy. We want to like figure out what we're doing with my father or my husband.

40:04Nothing. There's been nothing from the family. In fact, I believe it was Porter McConnell deleted her ex account. So this is all very odd. Well, Desiree, thank you so much for doing this work. I feel like I'm going insane that there's not more coverage of what is an incredibly consequential story, both in terms of is there a cover-up, what it means for our politics moving forward, all of those questions, and there seems to be very little curiosity in the mainstream press. And that is one other point I want to make here is people may be under the impression this is all unfolding in Kentucky. No, this is unfolding here in Washington, D.C.

40:41It is undoubtedly the case, just as there were many people who know about Joe Biden's decline. There are many people, many of them probably in the Washington press corps, who know exactly what is going on with Mitch McConnell and are keeping their lips sealed. So I think it's important for people to understand that as well. Tell people where they can follow you and where they can find your work. And I hope you'll come back and keep us updated as well. So real quickly, to address that, I want to let all of you know. So I put out videos back in February of the state of Senator Mitch McConnell. And I asked him questions as I'm walking past the press gaggle.

41:13They knew the condition he was in. They have never covered it. And to this day, I still find it incredibly odd that they're ignoring this story. So you can find me, Desiree Townsend. I'm on all the platforms except for Facebook. I'm sorry. It's a lot of work to have all these things up. So you can find me on TikTok, Instagram, and X. Thank you so much for your work. And thank you for your time today, Desiree. Great to meet you. Thank you both. Have a great day. You too. 16 years ago, I started working as a CNA in the hospital. I loved it. On the day I decided to enroll in the nursing program at Rasmussen University, it was afternoon of my 35th birthday.

41:53I was hanging out with a friend and they had just questioned me what I was going to do with this next chapter of my life. I immediately had said, I want to go to nursing school. So I actually had contact information from an advisor at Rasmussen, contacted her, and actually ended up starting like three weeks later. My name is Cherish Adams, and I'm a Rasmussen University graduate. Learn more at rasmussen.edu. It's 2026. We upgraded our phones, our cars, even our coffee. So why are we still acting like pleasure is negotiable? At Pink Cherry, it's not. They've got hundreds of toys that actually deliver, and if you don't know where to start, their mystery boxes make it easy.

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43:08Visit Bahamar.com today. There is a very consequential governor's race unfolding in Emily's home state of Wisconsin. And we are joined now by one of the leading candidates. Francesca Hong is a state representative there. She is also a socialist and is running to be the first socialist governor of any state in the country. Welcome. It's great to have you. Happy to be here. Yeah, of course. Polls have you up. So it looks like things are going pretty well for you. What do you see on the campaign trail? What do you think are the core issues that voters are considering right now in the Democratic primary?

43:43Grappling with rising costs, public schools that have been defunded for over 16 years, the construction of AI data centers, and affordable health care.

43:53Emily Jashinsky:Tell us a little bit more when you're on the campaign trail, how people, Wisconsin has a very interesting particular history, actually, in America with socialism. So talk to us a bit about how that label is playing a campaign trail. Obviously, you're in a primary right now. Do you get questions about electability? What have those discussions looked like? Almost every day. I have to remind folks that the person who is most electable is the person who wins the most votes. But Wisconsin has a strong progressive history. Milwaukee, Wisconsin is where sewer socialism was born. This is the state of kindergarten, environmentalism, social security, and unemployment insurance.

44:33We've had trailblazers like Fighting Bob LaFollette, Bell Phillips, and Gaylord Nelson. I get asked every day, you know, why run as a democratic socialist? And I remind folks that I'm a democratic socialist running on the democratic ticket, But being a democratic socialist means that I am committed to the work and workers first in ensuring that we are fixing a rigged system that is designed to uphold the billionaire class and the elite. When we focus on making sure that working class people across the state have what they need to live a life of dignity, the entire state will thrive. Representative Hong, as I'm sure you're well aware, there's been a bit of a centrist establishment freakout happening in the Democratic Party about the rise of candidates such as yourself or Zarin Manjani or Daria Liza Villa-Chevalier or Claire Valdez in New York City.

45:24One entrant in this freakout has been Van Jones, of course, a prominent commentator on CNN. I want to get your reaction to a video that he put out recently about how he sees this kind of intra-party fight.

45:42All right, a quick message to my friends on the far left. Quit pooping in the Kool-Aid bowl and telling us that the turds are ice cubes. They're not ice cubes, and I want to talk about them. Everything that's good in our party, I believe in, have believed in for a long time. Do I want universal health care, Medicare for all, whatever you want to call it? Absolutely. If you are sick, you should be able to go see a doctor. That's a good idea. I want free education for everybody as long as they want to keep learning. I think that's a good idea. The Green New Deal, I'm the author of the Green New Deal.

46:16The Green New Deal is my phrase from my first book in 2008. There's nobody more committed to criminal justice reform than me, ecological solutions, the whole deal. These are our ideals as progressives. We should fight for them. We need them now more than ever. But what does it have to do with supporting Hamas? What does it have to do with putting up candidates who say, we should have no police, no prisons, we can't deport anybody, even if they commit rape or murder, Israel shouldn't exist. These are terrible ideas. These are awful ideas. Where did these ideas even come from? If we want people to join this party, when people come to the party, you want to give them a wonderful punch bowl of wonderful ideas like this.

47:03who is putting the poop in the punch bowl? Why are these ideas in our punch bowl? Interesting stylistic choices being made there, but respond to his concerns here and his critiques. He says that bad regressive ideas are being snuck into the party by candidates such as yourself. What is your response to that? We need to build the broadest big-time coalition that we can to fight fascism and rising authoritarian and the Trump regime together. I think that if we alienate voters, especially those who are committed to human rights, what's happening in Gaza is a genocide. That, you know, fighting to ensure that we actually fix the systemic issues around criminal legal reform and make sure that we're investing in systems of care first.

47:50I think it's disappointing that we would continue to be divisive when our campaign is focused on building this really wonderful multiracial, multigeographic, multi-faith coalition with voters in every corner of the state, including Republicans and independents. And I think that if we are to be stronger as a Democratic Party, if we are going to build durable power as a Democratic Party, we cannot alienate those on the left. And I think that, you know, I welcome some of Van Jones's commitments to universal policies. I think they're the only ones that will make sure that we don't come back to these moments that we ensure human rights for folks.

48:34But to make this about, you know, the human rights violations of Israel and making this about the left focusing on these slogans, I think is a disservice to building this coalition that we need to build together.

48:51Emily Jashinsky:Senator Bernie Sanders famously once called open borders a Koch brothers proposal. And I'm curious if you think the Biden immigration surge, which according to The New York Times, was 8 million non-assentisons coming in over the course of about three years. Do you think that put downward pressure on Wisconsin workers' wages? And is there any room then for deportation of people who are non-criminals, whether it's through ICE or another law enforcement agency in the name of controlling wages? and putting American workers first? Right now, our dairy farms, our agricultural center, meatpacking, education, every single sector across the state relies on the leadership and the contributions of immigrants.

49:35And I think that right now, when it comes to suppression of wages or those conversations around potential deportation or impact in the workforce, we are struggling to make sure that all of our communities feel safe to be able to go to work. And, you know, policies like driver's license for all and in-state tuition for DACA recipients. These are incredibly popular positions that, you know, we have the Farm Bureau supporting driver's licenses for all here in Wisconsin. So I think that this manufactured crisis at times and fear-mongering, especially in the way of growing labor from the era of AI, it's important to recognize that we have to be fighting for our neighbors.

50:24You mentioned that you get a lot of questions about why identify as a socialist and are you electable in a general election. There was a Marquette poll recently, this was featured on the Wisconsin Public Radio site, that had all of the candidates and everybody was within target distance of the Republican candidate, but they did have Mandela Barnes outperforming and winning, and you were somewhat behind the Republican candidate Tiffany. So I'm curious, how do you view that poll? What do you make of how you will sell a socialist candidate and a socialist ideology to a broader Wisconsin electorate?

51:04It's important to remember that we still have about 40, 45 percent of voters in that last Marquette poll who were undecided. That will have another Marquette poll coming out on Wednesday because we had some shifts in the Democratic primary candidates with the county executive coming back in with the governor's endorsement. I think one of the advantages that the former lieutenant governor has is that there is a broader name recognition. And so in a head to head, oftentimes you'll find the person who has the broadest name recognition in a better position. But I think that our movement is growing.

51:40We have new donors every day. We're already beating Tom Tiffany, who is a traitor, an election denier, somebody who supports a national abortion ban and has voted to get health care and food share away from our kids. The more people see who he is and what his voting record is, because right now they're out here trying to make him out to be This, you know, grew up on a dairy farm and is this nice average guy. But who he is, is truly somebody who's going to put Trump ahead of every single Wisconsinite. So we're excited to have more individual donors than Tiffany, more individual donations, over 22 ,000 donations, in fact, from every county here in this state.

52:21I think having led in every Marquette poll and growing our lead shows that the coalition is growing, that we are an organizing first campaign, that over the weekend, our volunteers hit over 35 ,000 doors across the state. And we are growing momentum in rural, more purple or red areas. And it's a multigenerational coalition. And I think this sort of excitement and joy belongs in a new type of politics and is part of resistance building as well. We get to have fun when it comes to campaigns and be serious about the issue. Abdul Asayyad over in Michigan, we've covered his race a lot. I'm sure you're following it closely as well.

53:02He has a similar worldview, but he does not describe himself as a socialist. He was asked in a debate last night. He says, no, I'm a capitalist. And I'm wondering if you think that the socialist label is still scary for voters and how you put them at ease, how you explain your view of what socialism or democratic socialism is. I am a former small business owner. I owned a small restaurant in downtown Madison, close to my legislative office for almost seven years. I support, you know, union rights and making sure that we have living wages, health care for all, universal child care, fully funded public schools and fully funding our local governments.

53:45Democratic socialism to me means that we are a government that puts working class people first ahead of corporations and the elite and the ultra wealthy. And so when I explain democratic socialism in a way through the Green Bay Packers filling potholes, making sure that we're funding public schools, you know, the pride and the collective joy that comes with our only publicly owned NFL team, it helps folks to realize this is so much more about the economic populist issues that are growing in popularity. I think democratic socialism is sensible. What is radical is the fact that we still have a$7.25 minimum wage in our state,$2.33 an hour for a tipped minimum wage.

54:31So these sort of working class people first policies are what is popular with folks across our state. And democratic socialism holds me accountable to my principles of human rights, democracy and fairness. It's why we need to tax the rich. And so and I think with growing momentum, organizations like DSA, the political home they're providing, even though they're not a party, the organizing skills and tools, you know, we reflect a lot of that, too. We want communities across the state to have the organizing tools and knowledge to be able to continue to build local community power, community safety, community care.

55:13And that should grow out and be across the state. And so for me, democratic socialism is also an accountability measure to make sure I'm holding true to my principles.

55:24Emily Jashinsky:My last question is on this. Go ahead. I was just going to say, Crystal, on the taxation issue, it's pretty well documented that Wisconsin has benefited from people and businesses coming up from Illinois. in the sense that Wisconsin has seen as having a more competitive business climate. So are you sensitive to the issue of perhaps losing some of that competitive edge if taxes go up? How do we increase taxes in the state of Wisconsin in a way that also ensures we're still working? You said you're a small business owner, working with the business community to make sure that people aren't going to other nearby states that maybe border in the southeastern part or in different parts of the state.

56:02Emily Jashinsky:And at the same time, though, make sure that the system is fair. 99 % of the businesses in Wisconsin are small businesses, which means they either make up to or less than$5 million in revenue or they have 20 or fewer full-time employees. Right now, we have manufacturing and agricultural large business tax credits where some of the largest corporations are paying 0.9 % or less of corporate tax rates. We have a very regressive income tax structure where some of our lowest income earners are paying a higher tax rate than some of our highest tax bracket earners. And so when we have, you know, a millionaire tax and we add a 1 % tax to billionaires, we're looking at actually lowering property taxes, putting them by up to 44 % for folks across the state and putting that funding into public education because we have a very antiquated public school funding formula that ties property taxes to school funding.

57:03So in addition to changing this formula, you know, fair taxation is actually good for growing local and state economies. Policies like universal child care and funding schools and paid leave for all is good for strengthening workforce and expanding our tax revenue bank. We've had very minimal net migration. We have to make Wisconsin a place where all working class folks can thrive and grow families. I think that as a small business owner, I understand the cost of workers where there's more turnover. I understand the costs that come with closing and reopening a business. And I think that in the Scott Walker era and even into these last eight years under Governor Evers, we haven't seen the growth of manufacturing jobs.

57:53In fact, we've actually seen manufacturers leave our state. And so reinvesting in green new jobs and renewable energy companies, manufacturing jobs in, you know, in the tech sector, I think that we're going to be able to invest in the local and state economies in a way that's much more durable and sustainable than the tax credits we're giving to the business businesses, some which aren't even headquartered in Wisconsin. They're in Florida. Foxconn. I don't want to get Foxconned again. Yeah. Yeah. they're putting a data center where Foxconn was supposed to go. Wow. You know, I think that speaks to the absurdity of where we are in large corporations coming in, taking over community.

58:37Wow. Francesca Hong, tell people where they can find more information about your campaign and support you if they're interested. Yes, you can go to www.francescahong.com or follow us on socials at Francesca Hong WI. Well, thank you so much. I know you have a very busy life between campaign and family and all of the things that come in between. We really appreciate you making time for us. Happy to be here. And folks, if you're in Wisconsin, don't forget to make your plan to vote on or before August 11th. So, Emily, did she convert you to socialism with that Green Bay Packers pitch?

59:12Emily Jashinsky:It's all over. According to our right-wing commenters, I've been converted to socialism for years now, though, so she didn't have to do much. But no, I mean, it's good to have these conversations, especially during, I think, the primaries where you're often getting questions that are understandably from the left. So like from the right, sometimes it's fun to pop in and be like, here's a question that you might get later down the road, too. Yeah. Well, and I mean, she is getting some of those questions from the centrist in the party right now. This is a, I think, increasingly common instance of centrists in disarray in this race because there are two more establishment.

59:49Centrist civil war. Yes, there are two more establishment candidates in the race who are dividing some of that vote. And so there's been all this pressure of like, OK, one of y 'all got to drop out. And now we're coming down to election day. No one's dropping out. And that is helping to pave the path. Not to say she couldn't win if it was her versus one or the other of them. But that is certainly making her task easier. Which is why at this point, I think she's, you know, I hate to use the betting market odds, but she's like 80 percent favored to win Democratic primary. And in a year that looks like it's a very good one for Democrats, she's going to have a good shot to win the governor's mansion, which would be, you know, it would genuinely be a historic, historic victory.

1:00:30First time a socialist would win a statewide race and in a swing state like Wisconsin that obviously people watch very closely. So very important and interesting race that people are going to be following very closely.

1:00:40Emily Jashinsky:Tom Tiffany is probably a stronger candidate than Republicans have put up in a while. He's sort of because of the lack of riz. Yeah, what's his deal? I don't know anything about him. He's from the northern part of the state, as Francesca Hong was saying, has background as a dairy farmer. Very normie Republican who is kind of MAGA, Freedom Caucus coded as he was in Congress, but is also just doesn't have the like MAGA riz that some of the hardcore people do. So just from like a political standpoint, he's a little bit, I think, more difficult to paint in one direction or the other. A little, maybe slippery is the word.

1:01:19Emily Jashinsky:Gotcha. All right. Well, we will watch this one closely. Emily, thank you so much. It'll be us again tomorrow, but we're going to switch places. Emily will be in the studio. I'll be at home. Chris will be at my house. Yeah, exactly. We'll just swap this out. anyway hope you guys have a great day and we will both see you back here tomorrow

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