7/6/26: Zohran July 4th Speech, AIPAC Millions In Michigan, FIFA Corruption

6 Jul 2026 · 50 min · 18 chapters

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In short

The episode discusses three main political-news threads: (1) July 4 speeches and messaging about America and socialism/communism, comparing New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s Independence Day address to President Trump’s Cold War/anti-communism speech; (2) the Michigan Democratic Senate primary after Mallory McMorrow suspended her campaign, focusing on Abdul El-Sayed vs Haley Stevens, AIPAC/DMFI dynamics, and how McMorrow’s strategy backfired; (3) FIFA World Cup controversy involving U.S. striker Folarin Balogun’s red card being overturned after a reported White House intervention.

Guests

None. The episode is hosted by Sagar and Crystal (Breaking Points hosts) with Ryan Grimm referenced; no guest interviews appear in the transcript.

Key claims

Mamdani’s speech was framed as pro-ideals and politically effective, while Trump’s red-card/anti-communism rhetoric and FIFA “corruption” are treated as power politics. Michigan: McMorrow’s campaign collapsed after Hassan Piker comparisons to Nick Fuentes and leaked “Israel policy” efforts to deter AIPAC/DMFI. FIFA: White House calls to FIFA led to rescinding Balogun’s red card under Rule 27; Belgium/UEFA objected.

Notable examples

Mamdani’s “billionaire class” obstacle framing; Cato poll numbers on pride in America; AdImpact/RealClearPolitics polling; McMorrow’s Piker/Fuentes remark; Balogun’s ankle red card and slow-motion replay dispute; Balogun’s U.S. birthright citizenship origin story.

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July 4th Speeches Overview

2:09 to 2:39

Discussing contrasting visions of America presented by political leaders.

“Independence Day brought us dueling visions of America, one presented by the mayor of New York, another presented by the president of the United States, both triggering lots of other Americans.”

Mamdani's July 4th Address

2:39 to 4:34

Analyzing the themes of American exceptionalism in Mamdani's speech.

“It drew hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans to New York City after the Second World War.”

Trump's Fireworks Speech

4:34 to 5:36

Exploring Trump's speech during the July 4th fireworks and its implications.

“It belongs too to our newest Americans, those standing here with me today, all of whom were recently naturalized.”

Fact-Checking Trump's Claims

5:36 to 7:39

Debating the validity of Trump's assertions regarding communism.

“And after that, Trump said, all right, I'm just going to do it live.”

Political Strategies Discussed

7:39 to 9:00

Examining the effectiveness of political strategies used against Mamdani.

“And that's the significance of bringing both of these speeches together in the same place because clearly they just started testing this.”

Critique of Political Narratives

9:00 to 12:56

Discussing the framing of socialism in political discourse and its implications.

“That essentially means basically 39 % or 39 or a half, almost 40 % of people eligible to work are out of the labor force.”

Mamdani's Speech Conclusion

12:56 to 14:03

Reflecting on the positive vision of America presented in Mamdani's speech.

“Like, I pulled up the transcript here, and I'm looking at it.”

Zoran Mamdani's July 4th Speech Analysis

14:03 to 16:45

Learn about the contrasting interpretations of Zoran Mamdani's speech on American ideals.

“about our founding ideals, as he put it.”

Chaos at the National Mall

16:45 to 19:46

Explore the chaotic events surrounding the 4th of July celebrations at the National Mall.

“rest of the country, this is the messaging that is much, much sharper, more clever to strike.”

The Michigan Senate Race Update

19:46 to 24:46

Get insights into the Michigan Senate race and Mallory McMorrow's campaign suspension.

“Like there weren't what I heard from people who are out there.”
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Critique of Campaign Strategies

25:15 to 28:00

Discuss the challenges of genuine political representation in the Michigan Democratic primary.

“So just being able to apply the knowledge that I've retained to my daily life has been so amazing.”

Analysis of Michigan's Political Landscape

28:00 to 30:28

A discussion on the dynamics of the Michigan political scene, focusing on candidates' authenticity and strategies.

“I mean, I hear that it's reflective in polls and reading polls and asserting how campaigns should be run based off of polls is not a way that you win in a state like ours.”

Polling Insights and Campaign Strategies

30:28 to 34:19

An overview of polling data, ad spending, and the impact of endorsements in the Michigan race.

“This is from Prem Thacker, who posted—from Zateo, who posted, Haley Stevens makes no outrage to Mallory McMorris' borders while Abdul El-Sayed explicitly welcomes them to his movement.”

The Role of AIPAC in Elections

34:19 to 36:43

Discussion on AIPAC's influence in the primary elections and the candidates' strategies in relation to it.

“He's a completely different political animal on the far right.”

McMorrow's Campaign Downfall

36:43 to 39:29

Exploration of McMorrow's campaign mistakes and the significant political missteps she made.

“Daniel Biss, who won his race against Cat and against an APAC candidate in Chicago, he also got hit because he met with APAC trying to keep them out.”

Upcoming Primaries and Stakes

39:29 to 40:15

Looking ahead to the upcoming primaries and the competitive landscape among candidates.

“deliberately polarized the race around Israel, which was a huge mistake.”

FIFA Controversy and Trump's Intervention

42:00 to 47:12

Explore the controversy surrounding a red card in soccer and Trump's influence on FIFA.

“the undisputed winner of the FIFA Peace Prize.”

The Nature of Corruption and American Soccer

47:12 to 54:08

Discuss the implications of corruption in soccer and the American perspective on fairness.

“Trump used his power illegally to get the American's best player back in.”
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2:09Independence Day brought us dueling visions of America, one presented by the mayor of New York, another presented by the president of the United States, both triggering lots of other Americans. Let's roll Mamdani to start the mayor of New York with a July 3rd address surrounded by some recent Americans. That legacy of every generation of Americans insisting that the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness extends to them too, is no relic of the past. It carried millions of black Americans north during the Great Migration. It drew hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans to New York City after the Second World War.

2:47It invited countless others from the West Indies and South Asia and West Africa and across the world. And it is what brought my family to the city when I was seven years old. My family did not arrive by boat, although we saw the Statue of Liberty from the window of the plane. Even from the air, we could make out the promise of America. The promise of the beautiful patriotic work of rendering America, year after year, a little more faithful to its founding ideals. There is a term so often used to describe our nation and those who have shaped it. American exceptionalism. American exceptionalism, the conventional wisdom tells us, makes our freedom a little more free, is how we dug the Erie Canal and irrigated the West, is why children in faraway lands grow up dreaming of one day moving here.

3:30And yet the irony is that the story of America has so often been written by those who were told by others with power and influence and wealth that they were anything but exceptional. For generation after generation, we have been told that when the world has sent its people to our shores, it has not sent its best. It sent Puritans and Sikhs and Quakers and Muslims and Jewish people who were banished for praying the wrong way, worshiping the wrong gods, angering the wrong people. It sent peasants and serfs from slums and shtetls who were treated as less because they hardly owned clothes, let alone land.

4:04It sent immigrants from whom power was something someone else had. We are told that America is exceptional because we are richer, stronger, more powerful than everyone else. The truth, my friends, is that America is exceptional because here nothing is fixed into place. The frontier may be closed, we may have walked on the moon, but the work of fulfilling the values first enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, that work endures and it belongs to us all. It belongs too to our newest Americans, those standing here with me today, all of whom were recently naturalized. Nearly a decade ago, I too felt what you feel, the joy of no longer being just a New Yorker, but an American too.

4:48You each hold a special power, the power to determine what America means. President Trump, meanwhile, for some reason, waited until after 11 p.m., basically.

4:59Emily Jashinsky:The weather was so bad here in D.C. It was raining, it was humid. They don't have a roof somewhere. People have been out in the mall forever on the 4th of July, And so they delayed the fireworks, although there still was lightning during the fireworks. It was a pretty. That was actually kind of cool. It was kind of cool, but it was like a very chaotic and dangerous situation. It was. And also, this guy kills me. Fireworks are basically for children, right? I mean, adults think they're cool for like five minutes, but it's really for the family and for the kids. You started them at midnight? What's wrong with you?

5:32And one reason they started midnight is because Trump had to give a speech. Why?

5:36Emily Jashinsky:40-minute speech. Well, all of the musical acts canceled. And after that, Trump said, all right, I'm just going to do it live. He said we have the greatest performer with the biggest paw. So what do we need all these has-beens? Who didn't know they'd been booked was basically the story. And some of them. Yeah, anyway. So Trump played the hits for us. Here, let's roll some Trump. He vanquished fascism. Americans stood against the evil of communism in the Cold War. And as I said last night at the beautiful Mount Rushmore, what a beautiful place, where Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt loomed over my shoulder as I spoke.

6:17America will never be a communist country. Won't happen. Communism is a loser and it always will be. The communist system is the opposite of the American system and the communist system has never worked. Our warriors did not fight communism on battlefields across the world, only to have that menace rear its ugly head right back here in America. We're not going to let it happen.

6:51We like to stop a threat like that immediately and before it begins. It's like a cancer. You got to cut it out. You got to cut it out fast. Now, hold on. Can we get a fact check? He says we fought communism on the battlefield. We have met communism on the battlefield in Vietnam, Korea. Those are the more overt conflicts. And maybe we want to say Angola or Central America. Where did we beat communism on the battlefield?

7:22Emily Jashinsky:Where did we beat it? The question is not where we met it, but where did we beat it? We met it. He says we beat them, right? Or did he just say we fought them? He didn't mention. And yada, yada, yada. we've we've we've fought them we've definitely fought them he listen i obviously and we won the cold war you can say that but that's not battlefield right right right right or did we yeah just china is still this was we forgot about china well you he just referenced the speech that he gave the day before at mount rushmore he may have also mentioned the like communist threat when he was doing the teddy roosevelt library opening but what was rolled out this weekend And after Zohra Mamdani, after the Daryaliza victory, the Milak Kiros victory, clearly they have poll tested communism instead of socialism.

8:08Emily Jashinsky:And that's the significance of bringing both of these speeches together in the same place because clearly they just started testing this. And I honestly, like to the extent that I don't think we talk quite enough and audience members will hate me for saying this, but quite enough about some of the history of communism in the 20th century. The politics of this, I'm not sure, are going to resonate, actually. And I would question their poll testing of just turning people who are saying politically savvy things about, well, our democratic socialism is just Medicare for all. And, you know, like that.

8:40Emily Jashinsky:I don't know that turning them into communists or trying to transmogrify democratic socialism into communism in the American imagination actually is the best political maneuver, which is interesting. I don't see how it would work. Bannon doesn't seem to think so either. Right. So let's roll Steve Bannon here. I want to talk about the labor participation rate. That essentially means basically 39 % or 39 or a half, almost 40 % of people eligible to work are out of the labor force. Why do you think the Marxist jihadists are getting traction? And Mandami's not 10 feet high. Don't believe that at all.

9:21In fact, I think he's got, he potentially has feet of clay if you move and move smartly. But here's what you can't do, Republicans, in the pundit class, because you've got a ton of pundits. You can't take a copy of Milton Friedman and throw it at him or Atlas Shrugged. You're going to go back to the Paul Ryan and to all the playbook of Ted Cruz and his entire crowd. This is how you got in this jam. You're not going to take Atlas Shrugged and throw it at him. You're not going to take Milton Friedman's, but freedom and capitalism throw it at them that's not going to work why is it not going to work because the elites in this country have sold the country out all this garbage and talk about free trade and free trade and free trade and you had a mercantilist system run by real hardcore communists in uh in china of which the american business community and most of the republican donors underwrote to take your jobs.

10:23This is why this entire situation is like a Greek tragedy in that the great strength of our hero turns out to be his core weakness. Yeah, I mean, I think that's right. And the main thing I've seen thrown at Mamdani is this Paul Ryan line, makers versus takers, which was lame when Paul Ryan was doing it. And they're like, Mamdani is a taker. And it puts it puts the speaker in the position of saying that they're the maker, that they're they're the ones that are, you know, we're the boss where we built the factory. We we built this. You're just taking from us. You're just leeches. It's unpatriotic in the sense that it's it's denigrating, you know, huge swaths of the of the country.

11:14and it doesn't really delineate where the takers begin like our union workers takers because they're organizing together for bigger wages that you think if they weren't organizing for that would just be money that the the bosses the owners of the factory would be able to take home um they certainly think that all public service workers are takers um and so yeah for bannon He's like, no, this is you need a different playbook. Like you tried that and here we are. So what do you think?

11:49Emily Jashinsky:Like what would you throw at them if you were advising Paul Ryan's? God forbid. The way that they don't see it is they think they can say this is going to be such a disaster. But people think the status quo is a disaster. And so if you are just saying what's going to happen is going to be a disaster, it doesn't work anymore because people feel like we are in a disaster. And a lot of people do. I'm not saying everybody does. There's some people who have very comfortable lives and probably still will be moved by the Paul Ryan language, but it's not everyone. And it's not most people anymore. If you're looking at polling about how socialism fares with young people or public opinion of socialism with younger Americans, particularly, it's really not that much of a political win to just be like, oh, Ryan Grimm's a socialist.

12:36Emily Jashinsky:You're like, oh, interesting. Tell me what you want to do to make my life easier. And so you have to proactively explain what you're going to do that's not the status quo. You can't just be like, that guy's a commie. That guy's a socialist. You actually have to have a positive vision for what would transform the status quo, which is what the socialists are doing. Now, I thought the optics—I actually thought the Mamdani speech itself was really, really, really interesting. Like, I pulled up the transcript here, and I'm looking at it. And if I just read this, I think it would be a fun experiment to just go out in the street and read this to some people and be like, who do you think gave this speech?

13:11Emily Jashinsky:I mean, listen to this. He says, here at City Hall, as I sit behind George Washington's desk alongside new Americans who came to this country, I cannot see all of America. But like so many who came before, I can see New York City. Then he goes on to tell this story of the founding of the country in July of 1776. Our city simmered under the yoke of oppression. The British didn't take a while. War broke out. He's like literally talking about George Washington leaving Brooklyn. And it sounds like Glenn Beck in the Tea Party era, like talking about colonial oppression. And I thought the optics of the speech, he's usually so much better optically.

13:43Emily Jashinsky:It was kind of like a dull aesthetic. And nobody, the new Americans that were behind him weren't smiling. I actually thought some of the criticisms of the aesthetics of it were on. And it's a rare aestheticness from Zoran. But the speech itself was potent. Like there was something in that that tells you this is a totally new generation. The guy who was flipping off Columbus when he was wearing a glove during COVID famously in his like 2020 posts is here saying I'm sitting behind George Washington's desk and telling the history of us fighting off the yoke of British oppression and is like being reverential about our founding ideals, as he put it.

14:20Emily Jashinsky:That is a totally different generation of democratic socialism. Yeah. And I think a lot of people who were triggered by the speech didn't actually listen to it. Agree completely. Because they're like, yeah, he's just trashing America. It's like, actually, he's not. You picked up a good part. We can roll. Let's roll C5. This is how he ended the speech. And you tell me if this sounds like somebody who's trashing the country. Ours is a nation working each day towards the perfection in which it was conceived. A nation striving each day to better itself. Therein lies the work of America. The striving.

14:53The bettering. The reaching towards perfection. What a privilege each of us has to live in a nation that every one of its inhabitants can shape. What a responsibility each of us possesses to prove ourselves worthy of all those who came before. What power each of us holds to bring America ever closer to the greatness so many have seen when they looked upon these shores. The greatness that for 250 years has been America. Thank you. I mean, how's that anti-American? It's very Frederick Douglass.

15:28Emily Jashinsky:Yeah, the clips from the right were saying, here's Zoran Mamdani taking the opportunity to criticize the United States on the 4th of July. And that's how the RNC was framing it and Republican groups were framing it. But interestingly, on the left, and Zoran himself, the clips that were coming out were positive about America, which is kind of fascinating because there's so—I pulled up poll numbers. The Cato Institute just did an interesting poll. and as Democratic socialists are trying to go national, when you look at polling, overwhelming majorities, Cato writes, are grateful for the country, 86 percent, and proud to be Americans, 79 percent.

16:07Emily Jashinsky:Most also believe America is a land of opportunity, 61 percent, and even more believe the American dream, 74 percent, is available to them personally. Now, you get different poll results if you test, like, whether people think the American dream is dead or alive, but that's when you ask people if it's available to them personally. 76 % say they're positive about the nation's founding. Zora Mamdani was positive about the nation's founding, talking about the ideals, not like wallowing in George Washington as a slave owner, which is a real part of the history. It shouldn't be ignored. But when you're celebrating the 4th of July, it's kind of appropriate to focus on the ideals.

16:40Emily Jashinsky:And that's exactly what he did in a country where the polling people do. If you want to take democratic socialism out of Brooklyn and the commie corridor into the rest of the country, this is the messaging that is much, much sharper, more clever to strike. And what he did, which I loved, which was that he said, the thing that is standing between us and the perfection of the American ideals is the billionaire class that wants to divide us, wants to keep us fighting so that we can't reach our common destiny together. So he connects the founding of the country with an idealistic vision and identifies the obstacle to achieving that vision accurately as this billionaire Epstein class.

17:28And so then the task at hand for the American people is clear. Get them out of the way and we can reach our destiny. Like, let's start taxing a little bit of their wealth and start building the thing that we all want together. Let's also let, and to Bannon's point, they're saying, go ahead, let Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz argue against that.

17:50Emily Jashinsky:I'll say the Trump speech he gave, like, everyone was just ready for fireworks at that point. It was so late. It was about to like bust out into rain. He gave like a 40 minute speech. The, some of it where he brought out these veterans, one of, I think one of them was 107 years old, just incredible for them to then have the camera. We had the camera on them as they were watching the fireworks. That was super fascinating and moving to watch. But it was chaotic on the National Mall. C4, let's play a little bit of this. You can see what it looked like on the mall as people were waiting for fireworks.

18:29Oh, my gosh.

18:30Emily Jashinsky:This was like earlier in the evening. So they had evacuated the mall at one point in the afternoon or early evening. They canceled the whole parade. Like, imagine the money and the months, like, year plus that went into organizing the parade canceled it because it was too hot. And then people tried to get back in. And you can see that later in the evening as people are trying to get back into the mall for the fireworks. Trump actually opened his speech by talking about how there had been some, like, 300 ,000, 400 ,000 people evacuated. And now there are almost, I think he said, like, 200 ,000 people that were there.

19:02Emily Jashinsky:He started literally by talking about the numbers to address it in case anybody was thinking, wow, that crowd looks small. He wanted to get it out of the way right away before even getting into the speech. We had many more people, but, you know, the rain, all of that. But they didn't have a contingency plan for any of this. They haven't had contingency plans for the Great American State Fair, where Julian actually from DropSite was reporting, I think on Saturday after Friday's heat, there were seven people on critical life support in the hospital from the fair. And that's East Coast wide. I mean, actually, like nationwide, the heat has been just insane over the last couple of weeks.

19:36Emily Jashinsky:But the state fair was proceeding. They evacuated that. The Great American State Fair and the National Mall was evacuated on Friday for heat reasons. And they didn't have a contingency plan. Like there weren't what I heard from people who are out there. There weren't like misters that were keeping people cool. No. And they were banning water. You couldn't bring water in. You had to buy it inside. Right. What kind of country is this? It's a state fair, a public event, a security thing. You're right. People die for this. Well, I think you're right. They should have opened it up. Like it actually all just should have been a roving thing coming in and out.

20:08Emily Jashinsky:Obviously security challenges, but it's the National Mall. It's the National Mall. And they had no real way to evacuate the people from the mall once the lightning started. What they should have done is told them that Mike Pence was on the Capitol. He was about to count the Electoral College. I don't think they were enough. That would have cleared him out immediately. I don't think there were enough FBI people in the crowd to get him over there. They were all prepping for their Patriot Front march the next day. There was a hilariously pathetic Patriot Front march on the 4th of July as well. They wanted to join the parade.

20:42The parade, yeah. They were going to try to disrupt the parade.

20:44Emily Jashinsky:Right. Patriot Front, which almost certainly is. Listen, I don't actually think January 6th was a fedsurrection. It was a little joke, having reported on it live on the ground as it was happening. It was like a lot of normal people who just got whipped into a frenzy. Some of the people who were whipping were probably feds, but not everybody was. And in this case, the Patriot Front guys, I mean, it looked like it looked like a Fed festival, a festival. It was crazy. They're all out there with their neck gaiters preparing with like their flags, chanting weird stuff. They had to go on the Metro instead because.

21:15Emily Jashinsky:Yes, it was too hot. Yeah. Wild scenes on the 4th of July. America's 250th birthday here in Washington, D.C. did not go exactly as the Trump administration had planned. Ryan, did you watch the fireworks? I did. I did. um we stayed up was on a rooftop uh but then about 20 minutes in like okay like 15 20 minutes and we're like okay i get it like they did this kind of spectacular thing where for this entire row along like i think it was along the potomac they'd have like a dozen fireworks go up simultaneously and create this row they're like wow that's like cost millions of dollars no doubt but that looks really cool.

21:57And then they did it again and again and again.

22:01Emily Jashinsky:It was long. And again. I texted my friend, I was like, how was the finale because we left before it? And he's like, it was just a giant cloud of smoke. That's exactly what it was. Yeah. Well, in Trump's defense, who knew that fireworks create a lot of smoke? It's hard to predict that. It's very hard to predict that. We couldn't have seen that coming. Speaking of, though, the stupidest person on the planet, I didn't want to leave this thing without talking about former Jill Biden spokesperson, Michael LaRosa, who I think had the - He's been on the show, by the way. Has he? Yeah, Crystal and I interviewed him.

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22:33Amazing. He had the most amazing comment about Mom Donnie's speech. Two months shy of the 25th anniversary of 9-11, this is what New York City's mayor has to say about the 4th of July. Mom Donnie is unwell.

22:50Emily Jashinsky:Unwell? And you're like, wait a minute, hold on. first of all, it's two months and a week shy of 9-11. 9-11? Like, what is... So I want to know, what is the window around September 11th where a Muslim has to be, like, conscious of what they're saying about New York City? Is it three months? So from June through, I guess, like, September, October, November, December, or maybe into January. So June into January, basically. But then if you get into February, like you're getting close to the six month biannual anniversary of 9-11. So you got to be careful around that time too.

23:42How did you bring 9-11 into this? I don't know. You absolute I don't know.

23:48Emily Jashinsky:I don't know. Speaking of absolute morons, let's talk about the Michigan Senate race. There we go.

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25:28Emily Jashinsky:Surprising news out of the Michigan Democratic Senate primary yesterday as, again, it's a Sunday and Mallory McMorrow suspended her campaign for the Michigan Senate Democratic nomination. Let's take a listen to her announcement video. Today, I'm announcing that I am suspending my campaign for United States Senate. And I'm doing it with a deep, deep sense of gratitude for our thousands of volunteers, for everyone who donated what you could, building a campaign with zero corporate PAC dollars. Okay, that was like the consultant focus group tested candidate in this race, who I think a lot of consultant types on the left, Ryan, they thought with Mallory McMorrow, who initially went viral for pushing back on quote-unquote book bans, which actually it was a lot of Muslims in Michigan that were upset about.

26:20Emily Jashinsky:It was a lot of Christians, a lot of Muslims as well. But she went viral during the pandemic era because people were saying, here we have this normal Michigan mom making a kind of inspirational left argument against this. And look, she seems like a normal soccer mom. and we might be able to take her all the way to the Senate. She's actually lived in California right before moving to Michigan. I think maybe her husband's from Michigan or something like that. But anyway. Vote for Gawker, right? Did she? Oh, my gosh. After all of that, Mallory McMorrow suspended her Senate campaign. Let's take a look at this throwback conversation between Emma Vigland and Mallory McMorrow on Medicare for All.

27:01Emily Jashinsky:A public option is an improvement, of course, on the private marketplace and the Affordable Care Act. But that would still involve premiums and deductibles. Why not go all the way to Medicare for all? Yeah, I hear you on the vision. I 100 % do. And what I know after almost a decade as experience in a legislator is that you need to push as far as you possibly can while building the coalition of votes to actually get it across the line. And the support for a true single payer system isn't there yet. I think that when we're talking about how to keep a coalition together, the 77 percent of Democrats that think Israel is committing genocide, the 90 percent of Democrats that do not that are have a negative view of Israel or don't want to send them more money.

27:52Emily Jashinsky:That would I would imagine be the position that would be as unifying as possible, because it appears like this is kind of a consensus opinion now within the Democratic base. I mean, I hear that it's reflective in polls and reading polls and asserting how campaigns should be run based off of polls is not a way that you win in a state like ours. Oh, I hear that. I hear the vision. She's so, so acting. You just get from her that she's artificial. I'm sorry. I'm really going in on Mallory McMorrow. I can't stand her. But it's more that I can't stand the consultant. What drives you crazy? Because the consultant class, I was going to say, like what drives me crazier than McMorrow is that the consultant class looks at that and says, this is what will connect with normal people in Michigan.

28:40Emily Jashinsky:This is how we make our democratic agenda look palatable to people in Michigan. She's inauthentically Michigan. Like, it's just I'm not from Michigan, from Wisconsin. So I don't give like I'm not I can't speak for Michigan. But it's just like, come on. Like, it just drives me crazy because it's like the we're 10 plus years in the Trump phenomenon. And that's what they're coming up with and thinking that it's going to work. And, you know, ironically, it may have if not for Abdul El-Sayed running to her left because Haley Stevens running in the establishment lane was such a and is such a flawed candidate.

29:15Right. That she would have, I think, been a lot more appealing compared to Stevens.

29:20Emily Jashinsky:At least she sounds like she's from Michigan. And Abdul, I think, comes across as much more of like a Michigander, too. Like he just seems to be much more fluent in Michigan than McMorrow. And McMorrow had the endorsement of Elizabeth Warren and kind of ran in that Elizabeth Warren lane. And it'll be very interesting to see what Warren does. She's much closer, obviously, to El-Sayed's politics. So if she goes out with AOC and Bernie in campaigns, that could be decisive. There's been a lot of pressure on McMorrow to drop out and endorse Stevens to try to stop El-Sayed. from everything we gather McMorrow is no fan of Haley Stevens so if she does that it will be as a favor to the party establishment to the party bosses not because she herself is a huge fan of Haley Stevens.

30:10There was a Politico report that El-Sayed immediately called McMorrow, thanked her for running because now everybody's going to be trying to court her and her supporters but that Stevens didn't until Politico reached out.

30:24Emily Jashinsky:As soon as Politico reached out, that's what happened. Let's skip ahead to D5. This is from Prem Thacker, who posted—from Zateo, who posted, Haley Stevens makes no outrage to Mallory McMorris' borders while Abdul El-Sayed explicitly welcomes them to his movement. Put out a press release right away, the El-Sayed campaign, and said, throughout this campaign, Senator McMorris showed what it looks like to fight back against the politics that rigs the system against too many of us. While we have policy disagreements, I never questioned whether Senator McMorrow would fight for a better America for my daughters and hers.

30:54Emily Jashinsky:Goes on to say I welcome her supporters to our movement and to stand up against money in politics. Finally, a couple other things we wanted to mention here are the polling and the ad spending. This is according to Ad Impact Politics. Ad reservations as of July 1st,$34.4 million reserved for Haley Stevens,$8.9 million reserved for Mallory McMorrow, 2.8 million reserved for Abdul El-Sayed. And then finally, the RealClearPolitics average. As of yesterday, we can pop up on the screen. This is for the El-Sayed campaign. I mean, they were at 35.0 in a three-way race between Stevens, who was at 29.7, and McMorrow, who was only at 7.7.

31:36Emily Jashinsky:So where that 7.7 goes, that is obviously determinative, because if it all goes to one or the other. If it goes to Stevens, you're basically in a tie. And if it goes to El Syed, the race is totally different. And he's a really, really comfortable lead. He's up 5.3 points in the RCP average right now. And recent polling is all from June. So it's not like it's sparse. That's a pretty good indication of where the voters are. Yes. And by the way, let's not leave without identifying the wild thing that happened in this race that you're probably not going to hear about from like CNN or the New York Times as they cover this development.

32:17But if you watched it in real time, you saw it happen. And that was that in March, the McMorrow campaign decided, and the Stevens campaign as well, but McMorrow really taking the lead on it, decided to make Hassan Piker a major part of the campaign. As Abdul El-Sayed had said that he was going to campaign with Piker, the leftist Twitch streamer. And McMorrow comes out and slams him and says, compared Hassan Piker to Nick Fuentes. That was what McMorrow did.

32:52Emily Jashinsky:In a state, by the way, where you're running in a primary, a Democratic primary, which means you have to have grassroots and young voters, it's a state with a bunch of young Muslims that are involved in the grassroots at the Democratic primary level. Yeah. And at the time that she did this, the race had been pretty stable for months. And that was Stevens with a slight lead over McMorrow and then El-Sayed a couple of points behind. They were all in the 20s, but with Stevens in the lead. And as the weeks go by and the major focus of the race becomes this question of Hassan Piker, which then evolves into the question of where the different candidates stand on the question of arming Israel and whether or not they're willing to call out its genocide.

33:45side, it begins to become apparent to voters what's going on here and that El-Sayed is the progressive left lane candidate. Like it really cemented that idea in people's minds. And McMorrow, by comparing Hassan Piker to Fuentes, came off as cynical and dishonest. Because nobody who knows anything about the two of them thinks that there's any similarity between them other than they're both critical of Israel.

34:18Emily Jashinsky:Nick Fuentes is an outspoken white supremacist or white nationalist or whatever he says he is. Supremacist? Whatever. I think it's probably fair. He's not Hassan Piker. He's a completely different political animal on the far right. And so it destroyed her campaign. And like that alone, Third Way went to the New York Times and they made this like Third Way is this corporate centrist group saying that that the tent needs to be drawn such that Hassan Piker is out of the tent. And they launched this campaign with the New York Times and CNN and all these others. Jake Tapper doing program after program about it.

34:56Fox News covering it every single day. And the lines were drawn. And it's McMorrow that was pushed out of it. because people were pushed on the question. And when they weren't pushed on the question.

35:10Emily Jashinsky:Well, and Haley Stevens is already in the race. Like, you're not going to out Haley Stevens, Haley Stevens. That's impossible. And McMorrow had a strategy going in that she was going to try to keep. And it's kind of, it's messed up how you have to strategize around APAC. But her goal was not to win APAC support, because she knew that wouldn't be possible because Stevens had beaten Andy Levin with millions of dollars in APAC support. She was clearly APAC's candidate in a previous race. So it was very unlikely that McMorrow was going to become APAC's candidate. But what she wanted to do is persuade APAC to stay out of the race.

35:53Just let us fight this out, and then we'll see you in the general election. To that end, and this is where Dropside played a role in this election, to that end, one of her top supporters on a donor call said that McMorrow had submitted an excellent AIPAC paper, policy position paper. I suspect he misspoke and he meant DMFI, which is Democratic Majority for Israel, which is kind of an AIPAC offshoot. Either way, so McMorril produced this secret Israel policy paper in an attempt to keep AIPAC out. That kept coming up throughout the race with people saying this also appears cynical. What's in that paper?

36:40Release the paper. What are you not telling us about your actual position? Daniel Biss, who won his race against Cat and against an APAC candidate in Chicago, he also got hit because he met with APAC trying to keep them out. Wasn't trying to win their support and wasn't bending to everything they wanted, but he met with them just to try to, because he was meeting with everybody. He said after the race, if he had to do over again and his advice to other candidates, do not ever meet with them because it's just politically too toxic even to take the meeting. and McMorrow I think found that out if she had not done that secret policy paper and if her donor hadn't because what good is it if you can't tell people about it so she the donor kind of told other donors about it on this off the record call but then that got leaked um is that really so that really screwed her so um it's an amazing own goal on the part of third way who thought they were going to make Hassan Piker the center of this campaign,

37:46Emily Jashinsky:they succeeded and they blew themselves up. Totally embarrassing. And it's just missing, misreading where the electorate is in just like a ridiculous way. It's not that hard anymore, honestly. I think of McMorrow as the type of candidate that 10 years ago actually might have been a slam dunk or 20 years ago might have been a slam dunk. But even Haley Stevens in this new media environment, She's out there just like riffing and saying the craziest shit ever in a way that does feel a lot less stage managed than McMorrow. And Abdul El-Sayed feels a lot less stage managed, too. Like he goes on Fox News and answers tough questions.

38:23Emily Jashinsky:He like he just comes across as a normal guy. He knows how to talk on podcasts and just have a like authentic, genuine conversation where you don't think he's reciting talking points. Same thing with Haley Stevens as like crazy as Haley Stevens is. She's out there riffing about how she dreams about Israel. She's just talking. That one's haunting. And McMorrow's the type of candidate who would never, she's so risk-averse. She can't do either of those things. So it just was an impossible lane with all three of them in the race. And it's unfortunate because I think there is something likable and there's some inherent talent behind McMorrow.

39:05If she would have been unleashed. like you know if she would have just been able to be herself but she was trying to calibrate this goldilocks thing of i'm not the establishment candidate but i'm also not the right the super far left right and it and it didn't allow her to it made her just constantly be measuring everything that she was saying exactly and that that turned out to be um too difficult once she kind of deliberately polarized the race around Israel, which was a huge mistake. Huge mistake.

39:41Emily Jashinsky:Well, we'll obviously continue to cover that race. The primaries, I believe, August 4th, right? Yeah, that's right. And now, like, El Saeed's supporters are pretty confident at this point. But, you know, there's millions and millions and millions of dollars coming in for Stevens. This race is not over. She could, if the polls show that about half maybe of McMorrow's remaining support could go to Stevens. so if El Saeed can pick up that other half then he's in a really good position we'll see alright well let's talk about the huge this is the huge conflict roiling FIFA at the moment and has the United States very excited he's dribbling the ball with everything on the line he's driving down the pitch he's facing price hikes and cuts past him carrier contracts tries to block him oh he leaves him in the dust he's at the edge of the box he cuts past the non-stop Group chat, trash talk, he clears on goal, he shoots.

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42:05He made a call to the head of FIFA and said, hey, look, we just want you to go ahead and look into this red card situation. He made some peace. He made peace. He's again, he's a peacemaker. So Donald Trump, I'm thanking FIFA for getting flow back onto the field. We can put up E2 here. Thank you to FIFA for doing what was right and reversing a great injustice. President Donald J. Trump. So basically what happened is the U.S.'s striker landed, his foot accidentally landed on somebody else's ankle. And they gave him a red card for it, which, you know, things happen. And when you get a red card, you are then automatically suspended for the next game as well.

42:51FIFA has the authority under article something, something, something to suspend the suspension.

42:56Emily Jashinsky:Right. And according to all of the different reporting that we have. It was a heavily disputed call. Disputed call. And, you know. Heavily. It can look like you're going for the ball. It can happen. Yeah. Things can happen. Yeah. You know, your red car leg finds another man's leg. The legs are moving fast. Apparently, one thing that the Trump administration protested was the use of super slow motion replay on the doling out of these red cards. because it is true that it always looks worse, almost always looks worse in slow motion. It's like, oh, look, he's aiming right for the ankle, and ooh, that looks like it really hurt.

43:31And unlike almost every other tackle in soccer where the guy's faking being hurt, that one looked like it actually did hurt. But also, you know, let the boys play. So this is the Trump, for once, using his powers of corruption for the country.

43:54Emily Jashinsky:Well, you were pointing out earlier in the show that actually this is Americans arriving on the soccer scene. We have learned how to play soccer correctly. Which is that you bribe the FIVA. Well, let's put the first element up on the screen. This is confirmation that Ben Jacobs, not the political reporter Ben Jacobs, a different Ben Jacobs, confirmed the White House made a direct call to FIFA to ask Gianni Infantino to review Balogun's red card. FIFA approach for comment referred to the findings of its independent committee. FIFA sources insist White House influence could not affect the decision due to the powers contained in Article 27 and the independent nature of the disciplinary panel.

44:33Emily Jashinsky:But obviously the White House did take a call. Trump has very carefully not taken credit. You notice in the True Social he didn't say anything. He just thanked them for making the right decision. Now, we can also put this Clay Travis post up. This is the third element. According to Clay Travis, he's a conservative sports journalist, he says President Trump Commerce Secretary Lutnick and White House Task Force head Andrew Giuliani—he is the son of Rudy Giuliani—put together a team of elite lawyers from outside the government to challenge the Balogun red card. Specifically, they challenged the use of slow motion, as Ryan mentioned, instant replay, to give the red card, which they argued violated FIFA rules.

45:12Emily Jashinsky:The president also conveyed to Gianni Infantino that the appeal had been filed, and he believed the red card penalty was excessive. FIFA's independent committee reviewed the decision and agreed the penalty was incorrectly given, rescinding it under their Rule 27 authority. Now, Brent, I think you can actually make an argument that all makes sense, right? That it was a bad call and that the suspension is wrong. As an American, of course we can make that case. Now, don't tell me that any other country would refuse to use this power in the World Cup. If any other country had this level of sway, they had the FIFA Peace Prize winner in the Oval Office, in their version of the Oval Office.

45:52Emily Jashinsky:You're telling me they don't make this call? I don't buy it. Now, we should mention that Belgium is appealing. So the CNBC headline from yesterday, Belgium set to appeal as FIFA reverses Belgium's World Cup suspension after Trump reportedly intervenes. So the Belgians are furious. No surprise there. BBC, when I checked their website this morning, they were leading with a headline that was integrity of game at stake over FIFA Balogun decision at UEFA. So they're reporting that Balogun, who was sent off against the Bosnia-Herzegovina, should have had a suspension for the last 16 tie against Belgium.

46:28Emily Jashinsky:But FIFA opted not to enforce that. UEFA said that, this is the European Soccer League, said that, or authority, said that intervening to effectively cancel suspension at a tournament, quote, crossed a red line. First of all, the idea that FIFA has any integrity to be challenged. Amazing. Get out of here. Stop it. You don't have any. So Emily has been doing more social media. And so she did a direct to camera reaction to this ruling when it first came out. Let's put up E4. Corruption is not bad. Corruption is only bad if I'm not involved. Yes. but if i'm part of that corruption i'll defend it we are all that guy how did you get that video of me we are all emily i mean and i think this is how where europeans are going to learn something about americans like we we like to win and we don't many of us do not like our president we also don't like the stupid rules that this stupid game has and we are i think repulsed by Belgium's anger at this.

47:40Like it's, okay, fine. Trump used his power illegally to get the American's best player back in. But that's not your business. Your job is to go out on the field and beat our best team that we can put out on the field. You're supposed to want to beat our best players.

47:57Emily Jashinsky:That's a good point. That's a good point. That is weak sauce. How could you be so intimidated by us? We're the United States playing soccer. You're fine. You can beat our best players. Yes. Yes. But you're right. Win with the best players and not on this, what was obviously a very questionable red card call to begin with. But all these stupid red card calls are pretty questionable. The whole thing. Ryan's getting dangerously close to saying play football like a man. The whole sport is just a little bit ridiculous by how much it hinges on these, on all of this stuff and then the penalty kicks and the offside.

48:34Like, it's just dumb. But whatever. This is the U.S. playing the game of soccer, how it's always been played. And now we're actually getting involved in the corruption. And so we're going to defend this corruption. And so the game will be tonight at, what, 9 o 'clock?

48:57Emily Jashinsky:8. 8 o 'clock against Belgium. And also, we had to beat two teams at once, Bosnia and Herzegovina, to get there. You're right. And you're going to say that it's not fair? That's 22 players against 11. I'm sorry, but every other country, both Bosnia and Herzegovina, would be using this power if they had it at their disposal. Everyone would be using this power. Trump, by the way, this morning on True Social put out a very random post where he said, Harry Kane of England is a great player. That's all he said. Amazing. Actually, early this morning. So like 11.08 p.m. last night, actually. Also, real quickly, do people know and people who aren't following this might not know Baligan's story.

49:46Do you know how it intersects? The birthright citizenship. Yeah. For people who don't know it, his Nigerian family was visiting the United States, and they were on their way to London. But she was so pregnant that the airline wouldn't let her get on the plane. And so she had Flo here in the United States. And then once they were able to fly again, they went back. And he grew up in the U.K. as a boys under 17, always played with the UK. But he has said that Americans, as they were getting more and more into soccer, would constantly be kind of in his mentions and comments saying, why don't you play for us?

50:30Why don't you play for us? Rather than the English team. And because he had birthright citizenship, he was able to do that. And also he's able to start because we're not as good as England. So it's not just that he loves the United States. He loves being on the field. And now we have a president who's willing to fight for him and get him back on the field. Fight, fight. Meanwhile, Wild went down in Mexico. We can put up E5 here. So these are Mexican fans outside of the English Players Hotel having an all-night party, setting off fireworks, playing music. rather crassly, I guess we could all say, trying to keep the English team awake didn't work.

51:15I mean, it might have worked. Maybe they were pretty tired, but they beat Mexico last night. And then also Norway knocked off Brazil yesterday. I don't know if you watched this game. I didn't watch it, but... The most Viking-looking guy ever. I saw that. Most Norwegian, scored two goals.

51:32Emily Jashinsky:Yeah. Just this absolute Norwegian specimen. You're like, that's comical. Like that's what the Norwegian guy looks like. I was reading it. He's like a foot taller than the Brazilians. And his first header is just so nasty. Yeah. And his second goal where he just blasts it into the corner. It's brutal. It's a brutal way to lose. No, I was reading an essay recently that said soccer actually has the highest upset rate of Americans. Like if you compare it with baseball and American football, it has the highest upset rate. Which I think is the knock on it from Americans' perspective. because it's like there's so much chance involved and you can be dominating dominating dominating and then then you just get one run go on the other end and boom um so i it's a tough one for americans but but the argument is that makes it fun to watch that's the argument yeah also we need more commercial breaks like it i think americans feel uncomfortable if like there's live action for 10 minutes and we haven't heard from like buffalo wild wings telling us about the new specials and so for the first time ever fifa added these fake water breaks yeah so that we could have our anthropomorphic so that buffalo wild wings can we're like ah okay now we now we now we feel centered and grounded should i buy the bud light then you know yeah and then someone tells us yes um yeah and producer mac just adds finally before we go that it is against fifa's rules to use slow motion on red cards.

53:05Emily Jashinsky:Just the final point, tie this all together. But did they? Maybe they did. Well, yeah, that's true. Producer Mack, see, everyone in America left, center, and right is going to defend the corruption. We don't call him good soccer guy. We call him good politic guy. That's right. Check out that channel. All right, that's going to do it for us on today's edition of Breaking Points. I think, I think Sagar and Jetty is going to be back and in studio tomorrow with you for a bro show? I believe so. Is that correct? USA. Bro show all week. Is that correct? If Sagar keeps showing up. Oh, well, Tuesday, Thursday, bro show.

53:40That's right. That's right.

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