In short
The episode covers three main stories: (1) Maine Senate candidate Grant Plattner facing new sexual assault allegations, (2) Team USA’s 4-1 loss to Belgium in FIFA competition after Donald Trump intervened, and (3) U.S. Treasury internal concerns about an AI “bubble,” plus political commentary on Gen Z remarks, Michael Burry’s AI warnings, and Mitch McConnell health rumors.
Guests
No named guests appear in the transcript. The hosts are Sagar and Crystal (Breaking Points) and Ryan (co-host), who discuss the topics.
Plattner allegations
A former associate, Jenny Rassico, accuses Plattner of rape in a CNN/Politico account. She says he came to her unlocked home after she told him not to, was blackout drunk, she feared for her safety, and she complied rather than consent. She also claims he apologized during episodes, later said he didn’t remember, and she messaged him about pregnancy concerns; he allegedly didn’t respond.
Key claims and fallout
Democratic leaders (including Ro Khanna, Chuck Schumer, and Kirsten Gillibrand) call for Plattner to drop out, threatening to pull money/support. Volunteers discuss betrayal and possible replacement options like Troy Jackson.
Notable examples
Rassico’s described “don’t touch me” moment; Plattner’s video denying non-consensual behavior while weighing withdrawal; Trump’s claim he pressured FIFA to overturn a Balogun red card; U.S. losing 4-1 to Belgium.
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Chapters
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0:59 to 1:42
Krystal and Saagar discuss the impact of independent media and their platform.
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Setting Up Today's Discussion
1:42 to 1:56
Overview of topics including allegations against Graham Plattner and FIFA results.
“Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, and we are so excited about what that means for the future of this show.”
Graham Plattner Allegations
2:16 to 4:51
Discussion on the serious allegations against Graham Plattner and political implications.
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Details of the Allegations
4:51 to 6:00
Analysis of the specific allegations made by the victim against Plattner.
“And of course, Ryan and I are going to be doing the AMA Live.”
Concluding Thoughts on Plattner
6:00 to 14:06
Final thoughts on the implications of Plattner's situation and public reaction.
“Ryan, let's break down the Plattner situation.”
Allegations and Backstory of Grant Plattner
14:06 to 15:19
Discussion about the allegations against Grant Plattner and a woman's experience related to them.
“And then a few weeks later, when she wanted to make sure she wasn't pregnant because he had against her wishes, she sends him an Instagram message saying like, what you did was not all right that night.”
Introducing Sabora Football
15:50 to 17:48
A brief introduction to the Sabora Football podcast and its focus on football personalities.
“Welcome to Sabora Football, the sweet and the spicy on and off the field.”
Political Fallout from Plattner's Allegations
17:57 to 23:19
Analysis of the political ramifications of the allegations against Grant Plattner and responses from political figures.
“As you can imagine in a situation like this, this is how our political system works at this moment.”
Character Judgments and Betrayal
23:21 to 25:21
Discussion on the implications of character and trust in political support in light of Plattner's actions.
“I'm just being real in terms of like the skillset.”
Plattner's Personal Struggles with Alcohol
25:23 to 26:34
Exploration of Grant Plattner's personal issues, particularly his alcohol abuse and its impact on his actions.
“Redemption because if he is finding redemption in community, which was the part of the story that so kind of moved me.”
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Sabora Football and More
27:16 to 28:03
Continuation of the Sabora Football podcast introduction featuring various football guests.
“The sweet and the spicy on and off the field.”
Volunteer Sentiments Amid Scandal
29:11 to 31:28
Discussion on the emotional turmoil of volunteers in light of new allegations against Graham.
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The Rise of Troy Jackson
31:28 to 34:16
An exploration of Troy Jackson's political journey and his views on the current situation.
“People saying, this is very early on, good run guys, back Troy Jackson.”
Democratic Party Dynamics in Maine
34:16 to 38:13
Analysis of the Maine Democratic Party's nomination process and its implications.
“Because of the ranked choice voting process, it looked like he very much had a chance even after Election Day to end up with a nomination.”
Assessing Allegations and Public Reaction
38:13 to 42:00
A deep dive into the implications of sexual assault allegations and public perception.
“Fight it out on CNN, do the polls, and then let the delegates vote.”
Analyzing Allegations Against Platner
42:00 to 45:55
Discussion on the implications and context of allegations against Platner.
“At the same time, I do want to draw a line at where exactly were you getting those red flags?”
Team USA's Loss to Belgium: A Deeper Look
48:39 to 56:00
Analysis of Team USA's soccer loss to Belgium and Trump's involvement.
“For those of you who stayed up late to watch Team USA lose to Belgium.”
FIFA's Influence and International Perception
56:00 to 1:02:22
Explore the perceived corrupt influence of FIFA and political interventions in soccer.
“Well, first of all, the credibility of FIFA is such a funny phrase to hear.”
Transcript
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1:41Hey guys, Sagar and Crystal here. Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, and we are so excited about what that means for the future of this show. This is the only place where you can find honest perspectives from the left and the right that simply does not exist anywhere else. So if that is something that's important to you, please go to BreakingPoints.com, become a member today, and you'll get access to our full shows, unedited, ad-free, and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. We need your help to build the future of independent news media, and we hope to see you at BreakingPoints.com.
2:15Good morning, everybody. Happy Tuesday. Have an amazing show for everybody today, Bro Shows. Good to see you, Ryan. Awkward day for a bro show, but... Yeah, I was actually thinking about that. Here we are. Yeah, it may not necessarily be the best day for a bro show, but bro show is what people get. It's what the schedule is. Yeah, the schedule is we don't create the news. It's good to see you, my friend. We do have an amazing show for everybody today, and it's definitely good to be back. So you probably saw, and we will give you a full rundown here, of the Graham Plattner situation, a former associate of his coming out and accusing him of rape.
2:50In a CNN interview and Politico story, Plattner is weighing whether to pull out of the race. We're going to break down the full situation, just give you what you need to know and some of the fallout from that, with many Democratic leaders calling for him to drop out so that somebody else can replace him. We're also going to talk about FIFA. The United States lost yesterday 4-1 to Belgium, a humiliating display. After Donald Trump put as much of his thumb on the scale as he possibly could, It actually, Ryan, in my opinion, would have been better if we lost when he was gone. So we could just blame it all on that.
3:22You've got to have something. Yeah, we've got to say it was rigged. That's the only reason that we lost. Maybe Trump will say it. He actually said that it was. He said he was going to say it was rigged no matter what if we lost. So we're going to talk about AI. There's a new internal report in the United States Treasury that is warning of an AI bubble. We have some new polling, some other interesting data point. And Michael Burry, for the I think umpteenth time, is calling the AI top. You know, it's always fun. Big short. guy, even though he has, of course, said it many other times. Caroline Levitt, some of you may have seen this White House press secretary, saying that Gen Z kids were born with silver spoons in their mouth and they're lazy, now trying to clean up her comments after a honestly massive meltdown by a lot of younger voters and others who took her comments not particularly well in this economy, especially after a lot of the Gen Z younger voters, especially the young men, had voted for Donald Trump in the last election.
4:15And then Mitch McConnell, is he alive or not? Nobody knows. Literally nobody knows anything about his health. He hasn't been seen for three weeks. He hasn't been home. His wife is in China. There's all kinds of rumors swirling around Washington. We're going to break that down for everybody. It seems that he suffered a cardiac arrest, according to a leaked EMS police report here for people who showed up. He's in the hospital. We there's some speculation that they may be not telling the public the entire truth to prevent a primary which would allow Thomas Massey to replace him. So we're going to break all of that down.
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5:50We know that, but that's why we need a direct link with our audience. So please, please do sign up. It's for free, breakingpoints.com. You can go ahead and do that, or you can support our show if you want to. All right. So hard turn. Ryan, let's break down the Plattner situation. So he was dating on and off a woman named Jenny Rassico, who was featured actually in the New York Times article that made so many waves several weeks ago, where she said that he had come over to her house uninvited. Something happened that made her think differently about him, and she basically cut him off. She called his behavior at the time reckless and unsettling.
6:32You might remember that moment, but at the time she did not go on the record with her full allegation, which is that he had unconsensual sex with her, that he raped her. He responded within, I think, six minutes of the article dropping. They had put up a video response. Let's roll that and then go through what her allegation is. I wanted to directly address the troubling, serious, and false allegations against me. Any accusation of non-consensual behavior is categorically false. Over the last 10 months, I have been deeply humbled by the faith Mainers have put in me. You have welcomed me into your homes, into your places of work, into your restaurants, into your houses of worship.
7:21You have shown that a different kind of politics, one that puts the interests of people over corporations, is not just possible, but is inevitable. Regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting, but mindful of the political reality it will inflict, we are taking the time to reflect on the best path forward for the state that I love, the people that I love, the movement I belong to, and the goal of defeating Susan Collins. so that was the news that was in his two minute uh video which is that just if you didn't catch exactly regardless of whether it's true or not he's saying he's aware of the political impact that it's going to have and so he's evaluating the way forward as of now he has not yet dropped out the entire kind of democratic political universe is calling for him to drop out and people around him suspect that it is a a matter of when not if at this point that the that his campaign is effectively over.
8:18There's some discussion about who would replace him and what leverage Plattner would have in that decision. And we'll get to that on the back half of this segment. But let's go through some of her allegations, which she made both to Politico and also in a sit-down interview with Jake Tapper at CNN. Let's roll a three here. I remember specifically him like grabbing at my chest and I like hit his hand and I said, don't touch me and I remember that during the altercation specifically. And then he kept going. Yeah and it was this weird mix of like coming in and out of I don't think consciousness is the word but like coming to and kind of falling back into that drunken I don't know what I'm doing state
9:06and yeah and he just he would apologize in those moments and then go back to doing what he was doing. So he was aware that he was doing something wrong and saying sorry. I feel like he was in moments. Is there any way that he thought this was consensual or no? Just because. I don't believe that you can think that that scenario is consensual. You have to, you have to understand that that wasn't when somebody is repeatedly, I mean, when somebody in the middle of it says, don't touch me. Like that's obviously not consensual. You're not coming forward because you have any political motivation. No, not at all.
9:46That was actually one of the huge reasons that I didn't come forward and, and still struggled. Like that was a huge moral conflict to, to feel like. Because you'd like a Democrat to be in the Senate. Yeah. Yeah. I like the things that he speaks about. They're important. They're important to people. I'm one of those people. But at the end of the day, you feel he's not being honest. He's not being honest, no. Now, she also offered some other details about how he came over that evening and how it transpired. Let's roll A3B here. Him and I were texting back and forth, and he had taken something that I said as an invitation.
10:28And that's not how he meant it. And I quickly clarified. I realized I remember it being an instant where I had recognized that he wasn't listening to me. It wasn't just that he wasn't hearing me or whatnot. And then I recognized his level of intoxication. And I knew in that moment I wasn't safe. And I don't think I was I don't think I was safe to physically fight back. He's big. He's strong. And I just had to evaluate my safety and come up with the least worst outcome to the situation. And so I felt like complying for my safety was the least worst option. But that's not consenting. No, complying is not consenting.
11:15Complying is letting him rape you. Is getting it over with. so that he didn't hurt you even more? I don't know what this person is capable of. I don't think anybody does. Even people you know for years and trust, you don't know the depths of what they're capable of. You were afraid for your safety? Yeah, I was afraid for my safety. Beyond. Not that rape isn't a horrific thing, but beyond rape. I didn't want to find out how unsafe I could get that night. or how harmed I could be that night. So Sagar, her allegation there is pretty... It's graphic. It's graphic. It's very specific. Yeah, so effectively she says she reached out to him.
12:05Maybe he's at a bar or whatever. He's obviously drinking. Whatever she said to him, he took as an invitation to come over. She says, no, don't come over. Whether he saw that or not, next thing she knows, he's in the house. Her house is unlocked. He shows up at her house. She says, don't come here. You shouldn't be here. Right. And then she says she feels, he's so blackout drunk looking that she feels afraid. Right. And so she just complies. Which Tapper then distinguishes from consent. Right. This, so her version of the story. And I think as everybody hears it, everybody's like, yeah, that, that, that probably happened.
12:57Like that, that feels like that was definitely her experience of, of how this went down. And she related to a friend in, I believe it was 2023. Yes. Right. So this is, which is very important because it's before his campaign starts. Um, and the friend is asking about him because she wants to introduce a friend, a friend of hers to him. And she says he can be charming and funny and he's a decently intelligent person. He's not all bad. But I ended up in a bad situation with him and I will just very politely call him consensually careless at times when drunk. Right. Plus PTSD. And then she asks, does he force himself on people, forces himself on people?
13:46and she sends two responses it appears that her response to that is doesn't listen to you when drunk right and so that to me is strong corroboration of her initial claim right that she reached out to him but then said no no i don't actually want you to come over he came over anyway she said i don't want to do this and then she was afraid and he did it anyway right and and then in the she talks in the taffer interview too about in the morning she says so he slept over and in the morning she says do you even remember what happened last night and he says no basically and he had like tried to put his arm around her like he she then so her impression is that he was just so blacked out he doesn't remember any of it she's like i don't ever want to speak to you again.
14:40He leaves. And then a few weeks later, when she wanted to make sure she wasn't pregnant because he had against her wishes, she sends him an Instagram message saying like, what you did was not all right that night. And then she waits for him to see it. It's seen. He never responds. And then after he doesn't respond, she blocks him on Instagram, blocks them on text message. Now that is her version because she's deleted her. She's deleted it. Instagram. Which she says she did because she doesn't want to think about it anymore. Right, right. The official language of football is trash talk. Late night group chats, memes, and unbelievable highlight clips.
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16:54Hi, my love. Starting your day can be tough. You wake up, maybe hit snooze, and then scroll on your phone for a while, checking your emails, all before even giving yourself the chance to really open your eyes and breathe. And I want to help you break that cycle. My name is Ryan Weiss, and for the past 15 years, I've been an emotional intelligence coach and spiritual guide. And I'm here to share with you my new podcast, Waking Up With Ryan. Waking Up With Ryan is a daily audio video podcast to interrupt the inertia of your fear, your ego, and judgment. Here to help you connect with yourself before the noise of the day takes over.
17:39So let's start our days together with a moment of calm, a moment of reflection and meditation, a moment that's just for you. Listen to Waking Up With Ryan starting July 7th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As you can imagine in a situation like this, this is how our political system works at this moment. Just, it's over. Like the world just came down on him. You had everyone from kind of Ro Khanna to - We have that, A7. We can put that up there on the screen. Congressman Khanna, who was probably one of the, I would say biggest supporters of Grant Plattner, along with Bernie Sanders.
18:24I've been very clear that sexual assault or violence against women is a red line. These allegations are very serious and credible. Grant Plattner should drop out from the race. I am withdrawing my endorsement. And that was paired with the, probably more importantly for Plattner's purposes, was not just this. But we had Chuck Schumer and Kristen Gillibrand, who's the head of the Democratic campaign, to elect senators saying that they would pull money if he did not drop out of the race, which is effectively a death knell. It means there will be no national support in this competitive Senate race.
18:55So the Senate Majority Leader, or the Senate Leader, Chuck Schumer. You also have Chris Gillibrand. You had a number of the super PACs, the big money efforts that were behind them. The main Democratic Party leader also came out with a statement saying that he should withdraw. So his political support in the state and nationally has completely collapsed. He has yet to announce that he is going to withdraw. Right. And there's kind of two different things going on. And he alludes to it or says, references it directly in his own statement. One is the litigation of the allegations and what the consequences of those allegations should be.
19:36And then there's separately, but obviously relatedly, what the political impact of it is. And in our system, it kind of doesn't matter. Like what, you know, the first doesn't matter for the second because the second happens first. The kind of the decision that this is over. And I do think there's something troublingly kind of undemocratic about having political campaigns, getting, you know, people get fired up. And then if there is a damning story that comes out in Politico and CNN together within an hour, everything that all of those hundreds of thousands of people built together blows up. And there's something I feel like as a society, we should be taking a beat on when it comes to these questions.
20:29That's not the society we live in. Yeah. I mean, this is really complicated, right? Like he just said, it's two bros here who are talking about it, so it's a little difficult. We can only approach it from our own perspective. Here's kind of like how I would see it. When I read this, immediately, if we're all being honest, there is not a ton of corroboration, right? We have the friend. The Facebook message is pretty persuasive. Yeah, in terms of how she saw it, but in terms of she was supposed to have told her therapist. The therapist did not respond to request for comment, right? So that wasn't supposed to be an additional thing.
21:00the therapist did not back up her story to Politico whenever she was asked. Okay, I'm not impugning this woman in any way. I'm just saying we have to evaluate these things on his face. You're right that the Facebook messages and all of that exists. Now, she says that there was some text message in which he felt like he was invited over. We don't know the content of those messages because she deleted it. And he has not released anything to defend himself. And also, Jake Tapper, come on. So you're interviewing this woman. The woman says, I sent him a message that he interpreted to be an invitation to come over.
21:30You've been dating for two years. What that message is, is extremely important. It's very important. That's right. And we don't know what the concept is. Jake Tapper just blows right past it. Well, and look, this is part of the difficulty of assessing all of these things. And I think beyond all of it, because I'm trying to separate it just from this story to the wholesome thing, in my opinion, if you're truly not guilty, and this is an outrage, why would you consider even dropping out? Why wouldn't you vigorously defend yourself? And the fact that he feels so contrite in the message, you can see it in his face, right?
22:05He doesn't usually talk that way. And the fact that he's saying, I'm assessing the future of my campaign. And now there's all these leaks that are coming out saying like, well, if Graham were to drop out, he would have to be replaced with somebody who's true to his values, right? Like, so there's some negotiation. In my, again, just my opinion, considering the vigorous defense that he mounted after the original New York Times story compared to today, night and day difference, which kind of tells me, hey, at the very least, you know that something bad happened that day. I also think - There's more out there.
22:33And that there's more. So that was the second thing. And let's put it in the totality then of what we know about Plattner. This is not some Brett Kavanaugh, 15-year-old situation. We're talking about, this was five years ago. I mean, this show was around whenever this allegedly happened, which is crazy to say. So this is very recent. This is literally in the lifetime of breaking points. And this is somebody who admits to having a drinking problem, PTSD, to engaging in these inappropriate relationships, even both while he was married. So not that long ago, only a year or so ago. Ultimately, this is about bad judgment and bad character.
23:07Now, I am on the record talking about character judgment. I mean, to be honest, all of this behavior fits with a lot of the politicians that we know. You have to basically be a raging narcissist to even want to do this job. It also is what makes them good at it. That's what makes you be a good communicator and then barnstorm the state and get people fired up and all of that, right? I'm just being real in terms of like the skillset. If you read a history book for how it generally seems to manifest itself. Now, all of that said, the reason why I think Plattner is loathsome is two things. Is that beyond the separate incident, it so many people you crystal so many other people they stuck their necks out for platner so i was in maine on vacation and i'm taking a walk in portland it's 7 30 a.m there are two guys in the pouring it's pouring rain who are sitting there handing out free iced coffee for grand platner all right they don't even have raincoats on maybe that's normal for me it was crazy uh and and i think about those kids because I'm like, these guys, they got themselves out of bed at 7.30 a.m.
24:13just to stop random bypassers and give them a iced coffee and say, let me tell you about the campaign. That's who Plattner betrayed. And when I say betrayed, it's not just in his behavior. It was his decision to run and it was secondary. Don't forget that in that Politico story that broke a month ago, after Plattner meets with the entire Democratic caucus, Elizabeth Warren asked him straight up. She's like, look, be honest here, man. What else is out there? And he said, there's nothing else that is out there. There are no more scandals. And it was based on that word, which many of his supporters took to the bank, that if you knew that you were doing some stuff like this, again, not 25 years ago, I'm talking about five years ago.
24:52If you knew that you were rolling around blackout drunk, you know, in very questionable sexual relationships with a bunch of different women all across Maine. Dude, you don't, you know, this is the post Me Too era. You who knew that there was some stuff out there. And frankly, especially, I mean, a message like that, the fact that you didn't even respond, allegedly, according to her, that he didn't respond to that, that's piece of shit behavior. That's right. At the very least, you should say, I'm very sorry that you felt that way. I don't know. I mean, something, right? And it cuts against his deeply narcissistic.
25:21It cuts against the story that he's been telling of redemption, Redemption because if he is finding redemption in community, which was the part of the story that so kind of moved me. Well, you knew him. So I'm curious for how you feel. I mean, you've known him for a long time. I can relate. I've also known politicians who really stab you in the back. You stick your neck out for them and then you feel burned. So I get it. To not respond to that message. To not just sit down and have coffee. Right. And just hear her. like apparently he doesn't remember any of this right then ask her tell tell me what like what happened like let me hear from you what happened like to just completely ignore cuts against this idea that he's she's not on birth control so she's sitting around waiting did i get pregnant and yeah i mean that's horrific i mean that is that is horrific it's not good like and and relatedly and i bet he would agree with this at when he moved back to maine he starts oystering and he's starting to kind of find his meaning and purpose.
26:24Right. Guy should have quit drinking. Right. Like, and he has talked about his problems with alcohol abuse. The problem with talking about that is that he's still drinking. Yeah, exactly. And it's not obvious that it's, like, under control. It certainly wasn't that night. Like, there's absolutely no question about that. He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line. He's driving down the pitch. He's facing price hikes and cuts past him. Carrier contracts, tries to block him. Oh, he leaves him in the dust. He's at the edge of the box. He cuts past the nonstop group chat trash talk. He clears on goal.
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28:18Hi, my love. Starting your day can be tough. You wake up, maybe hit snooze, and then scroll on your phone for a while, checking your emails, all before even giving yourself the chance to really open your eyes and breathe. And I want to help you break that cycle. My name is Ryan Weiss, and for the past 15 years, I've been an emotional intelligence coach and spiritual guide. and I'm here to share with you my new podcast, Waking Up With Ryan. Waking Up With Ryan is a daily audio video podcast to interrupt the inertia of your fear, your ego, and judgment. Here to help you connect with yourself before the noise of the day takes over.
29:03So let's start our days together with a moment of calm, a moment of reflection and meditation, a moment that's just for you. Listen to Waking Up With Ryan starting July 7th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
29:41they have their own interests as well. The volunteers who were just there for him and his movement, more particularly the movement and the message that he's delivering, they were dropping very quickly. We can put this next element. It's A6. This is from Nathan Bernard, drop site reporter who's been covering the race for us, flagged a bunch of these. This is his volunteer discourse. Yeah. And like one person says, for instance, I don't necessarily want Graham to win. I want his, parentheses, our political ideas to win. He is not coming back from this, and we should find someone to carry the ideals now.
30:18People can be flawed. This is the discord of the volunteers. People can be flawed and become better, but hanging your movement on the coattails of somebody credibly accused of sexual assault is the exact thing we are trying to do better than. Another person says, if this is all true, I am obviously the most heartbroken for this poor woman who lived through something no woman should ever have to endure. but I'm also to a lesser extent heartbroken for all the volunteers who believed in Graham, his message, and his campaign and really thought he was a vehicle for change. And I'm ashamed I supported someone who could do something like that again, waiting for more to come out and not rushing to a snap judgment.
30:52But this is my gut reaction. Another person says, Graham had great policies. I hope someone whose character aligns with those policies steps up. Another person says, I'm in so much pain. Another says, he needs to drop out now. And the whole thing is really heartbreaking. And this was the sentiment kind of across the volunteer chat that a feeling of betrayal, but also a commitment that what they were fighting for was bigger than just one person. They very quickly started gravitating towards, we can put up the next element here. This is also from Nathan Bernard. People saying, this is very early on, good run guys, back Troy Jackson.
31:38Another person says, Troy has virtually the same politics. I feel like he's the obvious answer. Anyone else that reads as a more establishment picked and were definitely cooked. Honestly, somebody else says, having him endorse someone like Troy could be an interesting moment to see how this kind of politics polls without any baggage. and in in the Troy Jackson discord people started popping too because they're this is why don't you tell us about Troy Jackson Troy Jackson so he he's a really interesting case he um you would actually like him because he um because listen to this he got his start in politics he was politicized as an anti-immigrant activist really wow now there's there's some contours so he's a bernie guy there's some yeah it's contours to this he's a logger okay from northern maine yes so in the late 1990s canada uh and maine got in a fight over um over labor rights and a bunch of Canadian loggers started taking jobs in dangerous working conditions and lower pay from Maine loggers.
32:54And so when I say anti-immigrant, he's anti-Canadian immigrant. That's fine. I don't discriminate. Exactly. You don't discriminate. You're anti-immigrant. And so he is at the time basically not political. He's in the union of loggers. And he participates in protests and even civil disobedience. They filed something like 137 complaints through different OSHA labor boards and otherwise fighting against what they saw as the Canadian exploitation of Canadian migrant labor. And they were getting nowhere, so they started engaging in civil disobedience as well. Well, then he gets into politics and he runs for the state legislature as a Republican.
33:39That's what I'm saying. You really love him. He loses a very close race against this very entrenched Democrat. It's one of these rural Maine areas that had been Democratic for decades. He then runs the next cycle as an independent and beats the Democrat. So unseats this guy. Over time, he converts then to a Democrat. He then ends up becoming president of the Senate. So he becomes like a significant figure in the state, as significant as you can be in a small state like that. But he's president of the Senate. He ran for governor in this cycle. And he came very close to winning. Because of the ranked choice voting process, it looked like he very much had a chance even after Election Day to end up with a nomination.
34:32He fell a little bit short. Plattner endorsed him. He endorsed Plattner. They kind of ran together as this working class ticket. And people would often say that Troy Jackson was what people thought Plattner was. Because Plattner had this complicated background with his dad as a lawyer. Yeah, he was a rich kid. and he spent a year at the hotchkiss right um then he goes to the marines right whereas troy jackson his mom was 16 it's like actual logger main he did it's not for me to decide who's a real mainer but you guys can his mom was 16 when she had him he went to community college and then he became a logger right like so that that's that's a that's a kind of more straightforward forward understanding of what that but the question now is and this is part of this is look i mean to your point you're not wrong like there is an undemocratic nature to this the current traction you tell correct me if i'm wrong as i understand it main democratic party is considering doing some sort of super delegate convention where they get to decide who the nominee is going to be i mean i i gotta be honest i do have a problem with that like that is a little bit like what happened with Biden and Kamala and it was kind of a disaster.
35:45And so - No, no, no, it's not at all. Oh, sorry. No, you're right. Because there wasn't even a superdelegate process. So you tell me, I mean, I don't know the composition of the main Democratic Party. Is it the similar nature? I mean, because Janet Mills, obviously, it did not look like Plattner was beloved by the main Democratic establishment. He was a total outsider who ran, overwhelmingly won the primary. However, you know, now you basically have the hands back in the establishment, you know, for not just janet mills but all these super delicate people and they're gonna choose like one of the people apparently who's being floated is like what biden's cdc director i mean right well it doesn't take a political genius to say that may be a little bit of a problem uh up in maine right just my opinion yeah yeah yeah which and which is funny somebody somebody asked nirav shah on twitter yesterday um is uh would you take a pack money and israel committing a genocide and immediately He's like, they're committing a genocide, wouldn't take APAC money.
36:42So it's funny. Like, now you have political candidates pandering in the opposite direction. Like, I don't know whether he believes that or not. Right. But he clearly understands that given the momentum that Graham Plattner had, like, you're not getting into this position with public support. Maybe you can get it. The establishment could force you on the party. But you're going to lose then at that point. Like, you need Plattner's momentum behind it. Yeah, but is it legitimate? behind it's one of those where you know it's is it i look i don't know anything for me cdc director under covid i'm like no it's like i'm crazy i think that's ridiculous yeah certainly he's in the running i think it'd be ridiculous if if he ran for governor as well um uh it did not did not win um it would be ridiculous if he if they go if they go with him but i but so they have until the 13th or 14th for platter to drop out six days yeah and so he has leverage in that sense Because if he doesn't drop out, then they lose the seat.
37:40So he can say, look, I will drop out in exchange. And this is my understanding of what's going on. I will drop out in exchange for this. For Jackson. Maybe for Jackson or for a genuinely fair process that allows the real grassroots energy in the party to pick at a kind of shotgun rapid convention to pick a nominee. that and that's not just janet mills's team picking somebody and mills as far as i can tell nobody's interested in her being the nominee and she's not interested in being the nominee it seems i think she's not obtuse enough to try to obtain it but i mean long story short but i yeah go so i in 2024 i i i was urging democrats to have this snap convention like just have a three-week right By a mini primary.
38:30Fight it out on CNN, do the polls, and then let the delegates vote. And yes, there's super delegates, but there's also delegates. So a lot of these party activists in Maine and county chairs and county vice chairs, they liked Graham Plattner a lot. They didn't like Mills, obviously. Mills lost. So maybe let that process play out. That has to happen, I think, by the 26th and 7th or something like that. So it has to happen fairly quickly. but you could then say okay here are the nirav shah wants to get in troy jackson wants to get in we go to the convention and there will be polling at the same time so it's so even though it's not a statewide vote like right there's a poll circulating right now that shows jackson beating collins by five and he's he has the highest gap head to head of of any of the other ones that are being floated we're going to continue to see those polls get published between now in the end of July.
39:29And that will factor into how these state party activists decide. I will say, having just been to Maine, it's a very competitive primary. Not a lot of signs. They're like, not just no signs, like no political signs. It's nice. So thank you, Mainers. It's beautiful. It's like everyone's, the weather's just so good, they're like, forget about it. We're all just going to hang out. I'm curious if you want to go into any of it. Just like, how should the left be thinking about it? Because I think there's probably a lot of people out there were very heartbroken. And, you know, I mean, does it make you assess, like, how it handled the Lindsey Fyfield thing, and questions about his character?
40:05Because, to be honest, for me, I thought that the New York Times story was bullshit. And I'm not saying that about Lindsey. I'm saying, this is total, he said, she said, this isn't the fact that she's Republican. And you could say, Sagar, but this one is like that, too. And I'm like, you're right, but it's a little bit different. Like, when we're talking about forcible rape versus, like, oh, he grabbed my arm I'm in a drunken situation. I mean, you have no idea, right? In something like that. In this one, you know, it's like the implications are so harrim. It's basically a crime, right? Yeah. This being alleged here, like a category one felony or whatever, class A felony.
40:41So the question I think is, I mean, the red crumbs were there. Like when we put this one with the rest of them, it does make sense. And I think that's the problem. It's like, yep, drunken behavior, sexual philanderer, bad judgment with the tattoo, which can we all just acknowledge he knew it was a Nazi tattoo? Ryan, he obviously knew. When he got it? Huh? When he got it? I think he learned at some point. Dude, he knew it was a Nazi tattoo. Everybody in the Marine Corps, here's his defense. They're a bunch of Marine Corps guys who have the same tattoo, all right? I don't particularly care. His buddies said they didn't know it either.
41:12Come on. This is very good. Marine Scout snipers, all these other people, they brag about it. They're like, it's a Totenkopf tattoo. For them, they can give you a whole explanation about Waffen-SS versus SS, whatever. Are they truly Nazis in their heart? No, I don't think so. And that's what it came down to. But I'm saying his adrenaline, adventure-seeking, total, look, he joined Blackwater or whatever it was called. He was an adrenaline junkie. He had bad judgment. He was an alcoholic. The signs were there, right? Yeah, I'm kind of of two minds of it. On the one hand, the people who were saying there are red flags everywhere, beware, are obviously vindicated.
41:51Yeah. Like their spidey sense went off. They sense something. And now they can say, well, I told you so. At the same time, I do want to draw a line at where exactly were you getting those red flags? If it's that he codes as this gruff kind of working class guy, I do not want to concede that therefore he's probably a rapist. Right. And that we need to just kind of cordon off all of those people from decent society. Absolutely right. So I do not regret at all drawing that line. You meet people where they are. and then when new information emerges you evaluate that information you do not assume the worst about a person yeah based on how they look like this is america we understand that for every gender and race we have to also apply that to white working class men as well yes um easily so on the other hand on the other hand if when people are like well yeah but if you look at some of the reddit posts and you get deeper into them you see some real dehumanizing language and that is the red flag I'm talking about.
43:10For somebody who says that, I'm like, okay, you know what? Yeah. Right, remember that New York Times anecdote where he's like, I want somebody to break in so I can rape them? Like, it looks a little different now, right? You know, it's like, and I mean, I think you're right. Is we have to meet people where they are. His story was one of redemption. This was five years ago, man. I'm not saying you can't redeem yourself, but it's like, dude, you're a full-blown alcoholic, obviously. You have problems, you have PTSD. We can all understand that. you know anybody who has dealt with veterans however you know some behavior is genuinely like it's bad right and it's one of those and it's also pretty deep into his redemption arc obviously redemption is not one day you wake up and you're a good person right on the other hand this is a like an extreme violation and it's pretty far into after having gone back and doing and he's oystering, he's with his community, his family.
44:03So, and yeah, I do think it goes back to the self-medicating with alcohol and alcohol abuse. Yeah, which is not an excuse for what he did. Not at all. Yeah, we can see here. So I don't know. I mean, I really do, because I met some of them in Portland. They were so excited. That's where I'm like, Plattner, man, you're loathsome because you fucked those people. Like you, they went out there literally in the pouring rain to go and to talk to people. And you told them nothing else was coming. And you betrayed their trust. And a lot of other people stuck their necks out for you and a lot of other people.
44:37And it's like, man, like that, to me, there is no higher crime than that as a politician. Because people believe, and I felt this way, you know, when you believe in somebody. And it's not that they stab you in the back because they betray what they told you that they were going to do. I mean there's no higher crime, right? Especially on the fringes. At the same time, I do want to say all these people pearl clutching in Washington, you better be real careful, all right? Because, you know, I've heard plenty of stories about a lot of different people who are in this town. That is also very true. You know, just because you're doing it while you're wearing a tuxedo and you've got the power broker behind you doesn't make it better.
45:12I'm just saying. And I do think it – as a society, I do think we need to sit with this rush – this very fast rush to judgment that we do. And it's – Yeah, I've always been anti-Me too. This is why. It's like because it gets completely out of control. I will say though in the pantheon of all of them, like this – because this accusation is in Weinstein territory, not Aziz Ansari territory, right? If you'll recall – Because all of these other things – There's a big difference. So there's breadcrumbs that were kind of Aziz Ansari-ish to the middle and now you have this. it does make it genuinely, genuinely different.
45:52So there you go. That's our long take. And I hope it was helpful and for everybody thinking about it. We're gonna do a hard left turn. Let's go to FIFA. The official language of football is trash talk, late night group chats, memes, and unbelievable highlight clips. That's why Boost Mobile brings you our new global connection plan. The first plan ever made for WhatsApp. Get unlimited data. Talk and text, international roaming, and calls to over 100 countries for just$40 a month. $40 price includes$5 a month auto pay discount. After 40 gigabytes of premium high-speed data, speeds will be lowered.
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47:36Hi, my love. Starting your day can be tough. You wake up, maybe hit snooze, and then scroll on your phone for a while, checking your emails, all before even giving yourself the chance to really open your eyes and breathe. And I want to help you break that cycle. My name is Ryan Weiss, and for the past 15 years, I've been an emotional intelligence coach and spiritual guide. And I'm here to share with you my new podcast, Waking Up With Ryan. Waking Up With Ryan is a daily audio video podcast to interrupt the inertia of your fear, your ego, and judgment. Here to help you connect with yourself before the noise of the day takes over.
48:20So let's start our days together with a moment of calm, a moment of reflection and meditation, a moment that's just for you. Listen to Waking Up With Ryan starting July 7th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Turning now to FIFA. For those of you who stayed up late to watch Team USA lose to Belgium. Late for soccer. Very late for, oh my God. All right, let's put this one up here on the screen. There it is, four to one, one of which was a humiliating goal against the United States. This all despite President Trump's intervention on behalf of Team USA for this huge game which took place in Seattle yesterday.
49:04I know you guys covered it, and Ryan, you cheered it. I cheered it on as well for once. You used corruption to benefit the country. I defend it. You should defend it. And you know why? Because, you know, this is what—look, I mean, I'm not a huge soccer president. Even before this, I did not watch a lot of the World Cup. It was while I was off. some of my family were watching it. And that kind of, you know, I got bitten by the bug. And this is a higher stakes knockout and all that. So I started watching some more of the games. And it genuinely was fun, really fun to root for Team USA. So I do actually think it was one of those moments where, you know, say what you will, Kamala would not have gotten the red card.
49:40Okay. We all know it. Like, we know this. She's not making that call. She would never make the call. She also wouldn't win the FIFA Peace Prize. And she would not win the FIFA Peace Prize, the most coveted prize that there is. So here's Trump confirming yes. I mean, I guess we should meditate here on the Trump curse because remember the one Knicks game that he went to, they lost. And now the one game where he put his thumb on the scale, we lost. I forget who said it's like a part in my take thing where they're like one of the reasons why you should never go to automatic reffing is because fans need something to blame.
50:14Like we need people, you know, we need to be like, it was total bullshit. Balogun, like it was the record. We would have won that game. And now you're like, I don't know. What can you say? It's a disaster, right? That's true. We need that hope. But here's Trump confirming, and I think, you know, this isn't just going to be about the Team USA loss. It's actually about how Trump has opened up this can of worms where now every major leader in the world is trying to use their influence on FIFA and is actually doing it to some effect. So here is Trump talking about his phone call with FIFA's Infantino.
50:51specifically about how he pressured him to take the Balogun red card away. Let's take a listen. You're asking me about the whole soccer thing? So, yeah, I did. I spoke to Johnny, who's highly respected. I saw the play, and I'm a person that loves sports and was a good athlete. And I understand sports really well, really well. And that wasn't a foul. That wasn't even an infraction. there was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other you can't take your foot and properly place it on somebody else's foot when you're going no these were two great athletes that got tangled up and this referee who is a little bit suspect if you check his if you check his past i don't want to say that because i don't like to create controversy see but but very suspect uh if you'd like i'll provide you with the past he made a call that nobody could believe you know even people on the other side they said oh we got lucky wow that's and it's very interesting they say they don't show them in slow motion and i never realized that i never heard of that before that they're not allowed to review in slow motion because it's so different because you'll take one little quarter of a second and you'll see that a hand is touching a neck or you see something.
52:16Yes, I asked for a review by FIFA. I spoke to a man who's highly respected. And by the way, whose level of respect has gone up tenfold. This game would have a big mark on it. If we lost, if we won, no matter what happened, you have to let them use their best players. And the game tonight's going to be amazing. And we're going to have a full team. and Belgium's going to have a full team. And you know what? If they beat us, then they can be really proud. The other way, if they beat us, we'll say it was, I say it was rigged, just like the election was rigged in 2020. But Trump, the athlete describing his phone call, I mean, objectively, the red card was complete BS, right?
53:00I'm an American. I have to agree. Yeah, right. So what was funny, though, about this was everyone in American leadership was very high on the hog because they really believed This is it. We're going to win. And so, for example, here's the Secretary of State. Let's put this one up here on the screen. Secretary of State Rubio, he was at a meeting yesterday. We would play the audio for you, but it's really messed up. He was at a meeting at the State Department. Today, him and Trump are actually meeting in Ankara with the entire NATO delegation. And so he will come face to face with the, I think it's prime minister, right, of Belgium.
53:35And Rubio here says, maybe turning it into an international incident, I don't know. Maybe we'll bring it up at NATO tomorrow with the Belgians and everybody else. Quote, if you're Belgium, why would you want to play a game and win a match? And then everybody will argue that you didn't really win it, right? And so, yeah, I agree, right? I mean, we should have had it so that we could all blame the fact that he did not show up. And we also had just some other hilarious stuff here in terms of FIFA. Let's put B5 up here on the screen. The president of FIFA, Gianni Inventino, he says, I have seen the public comments regarding the decision of independent FIFA disciplinary committee related to the suspension of Balogun, and I would like to reiterate a fundamental principle of FIFA governance.
54:18FIFA's judicial bodies are independent. They operate autonomously, apply the disciplinary code, and decide cases based on the applicable regulations and specific facts before them. Their independence is essential to the credibility and integrity of football, and this must always be respected. Yes, I regularly discuss matters related to the FIFA World Cup with the President of the United States. And on this matter, I did receive a call from President Trump just as I received calls from heads of state, government officials, football stakeholders, and business executives from around the world on many different issues.
54:51During our conversation, I explained that there was an ongoing legal process involving FIFA, independent judicial body, and that the case would be decided in due course. That is how the FIFA system works, and as a principle, I will always uphold. So he says, I even read the decision sometimes, and I'm surprised sometimes I agree and sometimes I disagree. And he says, finally, respect for independent institutions and the rule of law is what protects the integrity of our competitions and the credibility of FIFA at all times. And you will be shocked to learn that even Sepp Blatter, who is one of the most corrupt FIFA officials literally of all time, had said that you can't be doing this.
55:31So let's put B6 up here on the screen. He says red cards are not overturned by political phone calls. They are overturned by rules, evidence, and independent bodies. If a U.S. president intervenes with the FIFA president and a player is suddenly cleared before a World Cup knockout match, the question is unavoidable. I cannot say these words. Was it quo vadis, FIFA? Football must never become a playground for political power. So there you have it, Ryan. When Sepp Blatter is calling you out, you have a problem. You have a problem. It's so funny. Well, first of all, the credibility of FIFA is such a funny phrase to hear.
56:05Exactly. Credibility of FIFA. But on the other hand, I don't know whether or not the people in the U.S. understand, like, how this is perceived internationally. Like, it's just, it just looks like the most kind of grotesque and blunt bullying from a bull in a FIFA China shop here. like also i think you're not supposed to get caught this blatantly trying to exert political influence like you're supposed to like meet at the four seasons and talk about a future contract that you're going to give to whatever quote-unquote independent judge is on this football panel see i i prefer it miraculously they get this contract and all of a sudden they're living they've got a really nice vacation home in greece somewhere right um you don't but we're we're just so like trump is just so he's corrupt from the chest he's just in this case though don't you prefer it you're like yeah i called him he's like we're the host country it's bullshit i'm the most powerful leader in the world no we can't we can't be having this soon as the story came out i knew like yeah oh as soon as trump has a press conference we're gonna hear all the details of this corruption if he was nixon yeah oh he would never talk about it right No, Trump would.
57:26No. But if Trump were president in the 70s, like, yeah, he's like, I want I sent the I sent my guys into Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office because he's crazy. And I wanted to prove it to the American people. And the DNC is trying to rig the economy and they're in the Watergate. So I sent my guys in there. I mean, yeah, I mean, people will be like, oh, right. I guess that's it. That's it. That's it. But here's my favorite part is now let's put B7 up here on the screen is after this whole situation, the French Football Federation has now appealed to FIFA to rescind one of their players yellow cards during the World Cup last 16 win over Paraguay.
58:06The star player was booked after an altercation who went to ground holding his face for replay show. He was actually holding his shirt. And so the French are like, hey, you know, we're pretty good. We're powerful. We have, you know, we have nuclear weapons. Yeah, we do. Hey, soccer is our sport, right? It's one of our major sports. If you're handing out favors, let's hand out a few. We also have this one. Let's put B8 up here on the screen. Man, these people, it's crazy. Honestly, again, I had no idea how much influence there was here. So apparently, this just happened. Keir Starmer helped stop an earlier kickoff between England and Mexico.
58:45So the outgoing prime minister gave English players, quote, a few extra hours to acclimatize to the Mexico City altitude. FIFA wanted to reschedule England's football match in Mexico City by several hours, keeping the kickoff set for 1 a.m. Monday morning UK time. FIFA had considered starting it at 7 p.m. UK time, friendlier for British viewers, but tougher on English players who had to acclimatize to Mexico City's grueling high elevation. The departing PM was contacted by the English Football Association to alert him before a full-blown diplomatic intervention by the government because it is, what is this, like 7 ,000 feet up or something in Mexico City.
59:29So now all of a sudden you've got heads of state. Again, you've got a nuclear armed power here. They're like, hey, you know, we once ruled the seas. It's like you have to listen to us here. Premier League and all the half of our players are playing now currently here in FIFA. So you've got to listen, I think, to a little bit of us. But I think the overwhelming consensus here is just a classic FIFA moment, as I understand. Again, I'm very new to this, so please forgive me. I'm doing my best. If Crystal were here, she would do much better than I do. She watched like the entire World Cup. But as I from what I know here, you know, I watched the documentary about FIFA and Qatar and all and all of their insane corruption going back decades.
1:00:07Like this very much fits with FIFA as a World Cup as to how it all went down. The Peace Prize, Trump's overall intervention. And then the poetic, you know, justice, I guess, for us is that we lost in humiliating fashion. So there it is. That's it. So I guess we'll see. Does Norway have the juice to rig it for them? because that's what I'm rooting for now. I don't know about you, Ryan. I might have even been in that documentary. Were you in that documentary? You're in everything. Ryan was in the Jolo documentary, which is one of my favorite books, Billion Dollar. What is it, Billion Dollar Whale?
1:00:37Billion Dollar Whale, great book. Yeah, because I did this story about how the UAE devised this entire plan to tank Qatar's currency and hold it hostage. The Qatari Real? Yeah, in order to then force them to share the World Cup. it did it with prince andrew that is so great and this print and this bank that prince andrew was i was going to high school in qatar when they got the the world cup and i was looking around i was like here i was like it's 130 degrees outside i was like how is anybody gonna play here this is i was like you can't even drink in this country how is this gonna work i was totally right by the way this is why you gotta sign up for the newsletter because i'll put the link to that that article about uh the uae and cutter in the world cup in the newsletter breakingpoints.com Only in the newsletter, breakingpoins.com.
1:01:25Great. Wait, last, who are you rooting for? I'm going for Norway. The Holland guy. I love this dude. Norway. I would love to see this. We got to just, his Viking physiognomy is just so funny to me. I love it. It's hilarious. And yeah, I mean, the English, it's like, we got to see, we got to see the Vikings triumph, you know, over, over the English and just win. It would just be really funny. It is really funny. You're rooting for Spain? I think so. Okay. But I would be, I'd be pleased to see the Viking guy win. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he needs it. You know, America loves this guy. He's wearing cowboy hats in Texas.
1:01:57It's great.
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