7/9/26: Iran Hits US Bases, Trump Says US Should Finish The Job, Platner Drops Out Of Maine Senate Race

24:14which is yeah which is true uh you know things have costs and and if we had ended the war in ukraine years ago you'd have more ballistic missile interceptors for somewhere else yeah and this is kind of what well the reason i'm bringing it into to this is it shows so if you're some you know pro ukraine head who's watching this uh you should be furious because we just blew the holes we don't even have it if you wanted to help you can't right there's nothing left anything that's not nailed down is gone right it's gone it will take years to replace and so yeah oh you want to help Ukraine? That's cute.

24:44We literally can't. So this shows you the problem with this endless war ideology, especially now where America has transitioned to, we have no boots on the ground. We just throw a bunch of missiles out into the air. Everybody thinks it's costless. It's costless till it costs. And the cost is being shown in Ukraine. The cost is shown to our bases and to basically the massive strategic humiliation failure that we took in Iran and also in the future. Like if there's a conflict which will arise in the next two to three years. It's over. It's actually over. Basically, our stockpile will go to zero.

25:17If Iran can deplete the stockpile by 40%, 50%, something like that, depending on which stockpile you're looking at for the weapons system, in 37 days, what's China going to do? Five days? Two? I mean, you start rationing. That's bad. We start rationing. That's what happens in Ukraine. People die. It's a death panel. It's literally a death panel every day. Let's finish with a little bit of fun at the expense of our man. It's tough because he's flying around the world. He's a very old man. Don't make excuses. We can still have some fun. Let's put up A4, the Islamic Republic of Japan, et cetera. A4.

25:55I told this story yesterday. We had 111 missiles shot by the Islamic Republic of Japan. They were shot at the aircraft. JC, POC. What a terrible, what a terrible deal. I call it the Obama nuclear waste deal because what he did with that deal is he caused tremendous hardship in the Middle East. It was a terrible, terrible... Do you have a question for President Putin, please? President, do you have a question for President Putin? Not so much for Putin. What would you like to ask him? Because I'm going to ask him that question. The Islamic Republic of Japan and President Putin. All in two. I like his clean up at the end.

26:39He's like, well, if you have a question for Putin, tell me. I'll ask him. And then I'll get back to you. That's what I meant. And he also called it the JCPOC. That's kind of funny. The Joint Comprehensive People of Color. I like that. That sounds like some end of lace. The Islamic Republic of Japan. The Japanese, you know that meme where they're like, me? Yes. What? How did we get involved in this? Emperor Narito is like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are we doing here? You know, man, I love Japan so much. The Japanese caliphate. Did you know the Japanese lit up Tokyo Tower red, white, and blue for July 4th?

27:16I did not know that. They're such great people. They did a little drone show which showed their PM next to Trump. They love us. All we do is slight them. It's just disgusting. It's disgusting. All right, let's get to Plattner. What's up fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers Hey what's up y 'all? It's your girl Sam J And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports Because let's be real Women's Sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars the moments that take over your entire timeline And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week Every week we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports We'll give you our tapes our debates, and probably a few disagreements.

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29:51Hola, mejor amiga. Hola, hermana. What up? Mira, nunca lo había hablado con nadie. Excepto con mis hijos. Mis hijos sí saben. Yes. Sé mi amante. Uf. Punch. Qué increíble. Ya, la telenovela. You're the only person I know that loves a yellow starburst. It's lemonade. No hay alguien que te falta, como que tú dices, me gustaría colaborar con esta persona. This is Sweet 305. Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Graham Plattner, in an 11-minute straight-to-camera video, announced that he is dropping out of the Maine Senate race.

30:37Let's listen to some of it. Hey, everyone. It's Graham Plattner here. I think as many of you know, over the past couple days, I have faced some very serious allegations. And I just want to make it clear, this is all false. The things that have been claimed did not happen. It's not real. It has placed an immense amount of weight on me as I think about what needs to happen now. I just want you to think about like what you would do as a regular person in a position where a much larger world, large forces were working against you personally to accuse you of the worst thing that a person could do. And it was not remotely true.

31:34It can't be made.

31:38And for that reason,

31:47we are suspending campaign operations.

31:53This is incredibly difficult because I know that some will think it's an admission of guilt and it most certainly is not. We're not doing it because of the allegations, we're doing it because of the structures that are being taken away from us by those in power. We were asking for real democracy and we did it the right way and we won.

32:18But now the ball is in the court of the Democratic establishment. My name might be on the ballot right now, but that ballot line belongs to the people of Maine. you know saga there was also a line in there where he said um we we did it the right way the way you're supposed to do it we we did it through elect the electoral system and very like he's alluding to the kind of fringe left wing court no he's alluding to this fringe left-wing debate about armed revolution versus oh oh oh oh is that what you thought that's that's what i thought i read as to this whole kangaroo court system which is currently no no what he was saying is we wanted health care.

32:59We wanted to end the genocide. And we did it through the electoral system, which you say is the way to bring about change. Oh, I see. And he's strongly implying it. I'm not enough of a communist. Right. That was that was that was like for the for the commie heads. But overall, you know, we overdiagnosed narcissism all the time, but it was a very like self-focused. Yeah, let's break this down. I mean, guys, I look, we cut a decent portion. You know, we're just here to react. But you've got to go listen to the full thing. I listen to the full thing. It's 11 and a half minutes, something like that.

33:30Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. He takes breaks. He's on the verge of tears. He's angry. He's huffing. He's puffing. He's sighing. I mean, it's only maybe eight minutes in before he's like, thank you to all of the people who signed up. I'm like, uh, it's not about you, bro. It's supposed to be about everybody. I actually thought it was the most Trumpian thing possible. Uh, and, uh, that was, it was in that moment, Graham, I was like, he's a politician. Because I see eight and a half minutes. It's all about me. It's just all this is totally wrong. He was right for politics. I was like, you know, people are always like, oh, he's a total outsider.

34:06I'm like, no, you had this in you, man. You're just like all the rest of them, which comports, by the way, with all of your behavior. And so, look, it's tough. You and I, we talked a decent amount over the last two days about the accusation, about people taking a beat. He is not wrong, in my opinion, that this is all being used as a pretext of a coup. And I want to be clear, this is way bigger than Maine. This is now the establishment using Me Too and shady super PACs, 501C4s, to basically come in, not only just take out a candidate here, but then to discredit everyone in the movement at a national level, from the consultants on down to discredit them from the Democratic establishment.

34:52You know, you have people out there, some of these super PAC people and others saying, if you had not resigned before today, we're going to blacklist you from campaign politics forever. All of your consultants, all of these other people, the main Democratic Party coming in and saying you will have no say whatsoever on this process. So beyond Plattner's, you know, me, me, me, it's a very crybaby, honestly, like his entire video. It also is, in my opinion, like really pathetic, Ryan, because he did not actually demand or extract any concessions whatsoever. People say, what power do you have? I mean, your name's on the ballot, dude.

35:25You actually can demand whatever you want. I don't think he's wrong because everything moved so quickly that within, what, eight hours of publication of the story, the DSCC, Schumer, ActBlue, and everybody else was like, you're done. You're cut off from the platform. Like the infrastructure was over. But, I mean, I do think there's a world where – I mean, ultimately his line about people will say me withdrawing has nothing to do with admission of guilt. Like, I'm sorry. Like, you will be branded as a rapist for the rest of your life. Like, period. End of story. And if you didn't do it, I can only say this, you know, for – at a personal level.

35:59But also, you know, I know a decent number of politicians or I've observed them all too. In general, like, if you really are not guilty, you fight. You stand up and you fight. Brett Kavanaugh fought, you know, many others. or even if you are guilty in some cases, they stand up, they fight, and they win. Just take a look at half the people in the administration. I've covered a lot of different instances where people have been accused and they drop out and then they spend the rest of their life trying to clear their name. One thing that I thought he failed at in this video and in his previous one, this is like two-minute video when the story first came out, was he just comes out with this full-on, these are false allegations, and then moves on.

36:43He makes no space whatsoever for this woman who he dated for like two years to even say something about how she felt about the experience, just a straight up, this is false, but then doesn't give his supporters anything to right hang their to hang their support on okay it's false what how is it false like you didn't go over there that was consensual like what's the what is what is your side of the story if this is a he said she said we have the she said like she courageously went to the press and told her story there is no he said other than it's all absolutely false um the uh and yesterday when we when we were talking about this people should go back and watch our our conversation um but then on on twitter like particularly there was a twitter post from uh drop site that that people thought was kind of suggesting that oh because she sent this text therefore all of this is justified.

37:55Which is the opposite of what we said. The opposite of what we said. And I think anybody who watches the segment will understand that. But I can understand why people like who are just scanning quickly would come away in a good faith way with like, oh, is that what they're saying? No, of course, that's not what we're saying. We are litigating the most serious allegation you can make against somebody short of murder. Literally. In the court of public opinion. If we're going to do that, and if the victim is putting forward her version of the story, the media should accurately present her version of the story.

38:37She told her version on the record to Politico. Politico selectively chose not to include some details. They included lots of other details, doors unlocked, a sewing machine, like lots of details were put in. They chose not to include the detail of the text message and then wrote it up in an opposite way. And if you're going to, if the public is going to hash this out in the media and the victim has the courage to be transparent about what she's saying, the media, it's not up to the media to then like pick and choose what they put forward in a deliberate and calculated way. And I don't think anybody actually disagrees with that.

39:21No, they don't disagree. They all are using it. Again, that's why I started with the pretext. And look, people are like, why are you so—my wife actually asked me. She's like, why do you even care so much about this? And I was like, because it's not democratic. I don't particularly—I don't love Plattner. I'm not some DSA head. I am watching 2017 era witch hunt style journalism come back into the fold as an establishment coup forcing mechanism to destroy a populist movement. It's not my movement, but it is a populist movement, a genuine populist movement. I think that's outrageous for our country.

39:58And I mean, look, if you don't spend a lot of time on Twitter, go take a look at what they're saying about Ryan. Like they really called you and I rape apologists. They said you were disgusting. It's being used by the Zionists because they already hated you for going after the New York Times rape story that allegedly happened on October 7th, which you very, very credibly and always with extreme care have not just disputed, have discredited completely. Completely. You don't do it as a rape apologist. You do it to set the record straight because you also know that those accusations about rape on October 7th were used as a pretext then to destroy and to kill tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

40:41That's why you did it, right? And so then let's step back here. Well, why do I see all of this? Because I see the architecture and the same architecture in journalism, which was used to destroy people's lives, many ordinary people, people much less powerful than Graham Plattner. It's right back. So not only, Ryan, were you the subject of intense hatred, but there was also, I sent this to our group chat yesterday, the Columbia Journalism Review ran a full interview with the reporters who were on the Politico story. And if everyone will remember, we played a video yesterday of Mika Brzezinski saying and questioning the reporter, Adam Wren.

41:20Hey, you guys have no evidence. How do you know that this actually happened? What steps did you take for corroboration? The Columbia Journalism, which, again, is supposed to defend journalism. Here's what it said about Mika's line of questioning. Brzezinski's queries may not be out of place in a meeting with editors, fact checkers, and lawyers, but on air, in the absence of context about the way sexual assault is experienced or shared with others, they display a misunderstanding of the work. And in other words, how dare you be adversarial? Now, she was not even adversarial to the victim, right?

41:51Right. She was not, and I promise you, if Jenny Rakot was ever here on the show, we would treat her with the absolute utmost respect. And I would not say that, I would not call her a liar. And I would definitely not even treat her with the way Mika Brzezinski, but the reporter who's doing the work, yeah, I'm sorry, you are actually up for scrutiny. How dare you? Basically, you are completely unassailable because what you're doing is elevating her story. And yet, her story to you included the detail about that text message, and you didn't include it. So actually, you should be subject to intense scrutiny.

42:23And Mr. Jake Tapper, who never responded, by the way, to our request for calls. And there's a strong argument to be made, and I actually believe this argument, that the fact that she included this detail about the text message strengthens her credibility. I totally agree with you. Because it shows a confidence in her version of the story. She's like, look, this is what I experienced. I'm telling you all of it. And then Politico sees all of it and they're like, actually, we're going to leave that out because people are going to judge that in a way we don't want them to judge it. And so we're just not going to include it.

42:59That's why they didn't include it. And that was wrong. The blast radius of this is like infinite almost. It's monumental. So the White House cryptozar, we could put this up in post, the White House cryptozar thinks that crypto interests deserve to benefit from this. He tweeted at Elizabeth Warren, I wonder how heavily your colleagues will weight your advice on crypto legislation after the train wreck you just orchestrated in Maine. And this is a response to Elizabeth Warren saying, as currently drafted, the Clarity Act is a ticket to sanctions evasion. The Clarity Act is the meek attempt to regulate crypto.

43:43So the crypto industry through the White House CryptoZar thinks that they can even exploit this at this point. It is you know, it is open season for people to use this against people that they've long been going after. Now, the way that Maine Democrats are currently planning to replace Plattner, we can put up B5 here. They have until, I believe it's the 27th or 26th or 27th to get this done. it would be a 600-person convention that would vote on a replacement. 500 of these people would be elected proportionally by county committees. In other words, the county committees will have, on a Tuesday night, they'll meet and everybody who shows up then votes for, you know, who that county is going to, you know, who the county is going to send to this 600-person convention.

44:41Now, of course, it being the Democratic Party, 100 of the 600 will just be party hacks. Now, not all of those party hacks are hacks, actually, because there's been so much grassroots effort to take over the Democratic Party. A non-trivial number of those 100 are going to be populist and progressive types. So the movement that was behind Plattner, which included 15 ,000 volunteers, like you were just in Maine. Yeah. That's a staggering number of people in a state that small. They're already planning to organize. I mean, everybody obviously is planning, but they're the ones that are the most organized, planning to go to these county committee meetings when they're scheduled and get behind a particular candidate.

45:31I suspect our reporting indicates that will be Troy Jackson, and then try to send a majority of their own delegates to the state committee and then nominate Troy Jackson. Troy Jackson put out a statement announcing that he is running for office on a platform of Medicare for all, taking on corporate power, standing up for working people. conspicuously absent from his statement was the Gaza genocide or an anti-war message. He opposes the genocide. He has called it out. He is an anti-war candidate. In the moment, he's like, I don't think we're going to include that necessarily in the statement that we're putting out here.

46:20It's like a lesson learned type of situation. Yeah, I just – I mean I can – you could see it all coming from a mile away, right? Because anytime party apparatchiks get involved, we all know like they're going to be disproportionately more establishment. Yes, but I think that people can actually win this though. You may be right, right? But we do see the ground already being set for – I don't know. Like let's put B4 up here for example. So you have this founder of Maine Beer Company, Dan Kleban. He now says he's in the race. He says, for too long, this race has been about Susan Collins' repeated failures, but to do what's right for Maine, that's unacceptable.

46:56Mainers are paying the price for her destructive leadership. He says, I've been overwhelmed by the countless calls from Mainers encouraging me to consider this race. And he says that he's going to run in the open and transparent process to replace. But here's the thing. I don't know a ton about Dan, but I do know that he was one of those candidates who had originally considered running, but Chuck Schumer told him, hey, don't enter the race because we need Janet Mills. We've got to clear the field and make sure that he wins. I'm just pointing out that with all these – some of these outsiders and others, the thing is about Graham is he ran for a year.

47:29So it was all out there. Like we actually knew what he thought about everything. And you could say that to a much lesser extent about – you could say that to a much lesser extent here about Troy Jackson, somebody's state legislator. But they didn't have anything to run. He ran for governor. Yeah, but that's not the same as a United States Senate. The votes are totally different. Like these are national politics votes that you're going to have to take on taxes, on health care, on war. How do we know how you run as a governor? That's why states very often will choose different party governors because they don't care necessarily about how you run the state.

47:59But at a national level, it's totally different. You might have to take an impeachment vote. You might have to take a – who knows? There are all kinds of – Supreme Court in terms of a confirmation. What do you think about all those things? We can infer, but we don't know. Graham actually put it all out there and made really the pretext of his campaign about health care, about wealth and about war. And those three things obviously were a very, very powerful message. We don't have – it's not even possible to do the same amount of vetting that's required I think in the next two-week period. Like if we put that last one, B5, up here – and again, I'll let you explain it better.

48:34but this proportionality by county committee, 500, can they really organize necessarily at the county level in the same way? You think so? Well, but that's my question, too, because then this is where it gets down to the state level as well. Well, let's think about counties are going to, if it's all county committees, isn't that going to disproportionately represent like more rural areas as opposed to, you think so? Well, it's proportional. When I was in Portland in a city. Well, it's proportional. Okay, so it's a population. Right. I'm just thinking through all of this. So it won't disproportionately.

49:06It'll be the Portland counties and the banger and the areas will have disproportionately more representation at the state level. Even so, this movement is much better organized and deeper in every county in the state. Yeah. So and as the Nathan Bernard's piece is at Dropside is really worth reading. A lot of the volunteers were saying very quickly, like, this is heartbreaking to us and we feel betrayed. But it's not about one person. Now, he was a kind of uniquely kind of gifted political talent. Also, obviously, uniquely flawed. But they were saying it's not about one person. All of us can still push forward.

49:59And there's a lot of disillusionment among the kind of progressive populist world now. But the same structural forces that were that have produced all of the anger that has been channeled into this movement exist today as they existed last week. certainly immense damage has been done, but the structural problems that are produced by the oligarchy that created this movement are still there, and they're not going away. And so that's why I do think, actually, they have the organizing capacity and the drive and the will to, by the end of July, have put another populist up, which will be interesting to see how So the establishment responds because they've been saying nobody who has had anything to do with Plattner should ever be anywhere near anything ever again.

50:52And that's OK for you to say, but there are still we're still somewhat of a democracy. So we'll see. Let's put this last thing. I just sent this guy is a new poll actually that was fielded by Plattner's team on Tuesday, gauging the strength of the people who could replace him on the ballot. So their internal poll is a very small sample size because a snap poll, 785 voters. They found Troy Jackson at 49-44. Susan Collins versus Graham Plattner would have been 47-42. So Graham under five points to Susan Collins in his own poll. Susan Collins and Janet Mills would have been 48-37. Susan Collins and Jordan Wood would have been 47-38.

51:32Bellows and Shaw, they said, both essentially tied Collins at 47 and 45 percent respectively. There's going to be a huge margin of error, and you should take that. And this is before everything. No, no, no. This was Snap poll. So this was actually - Right, but I mean, it's before negative ads and before hundreds of millions of dollars spent. And that's part of the thing too, where you just don't know. I mean, Plattner was a known entity. So whoever does replace him, and this is not necessarily a horrible thing, but you're gonna need like, I mean, tens of millions to tell the state who you are.

52:04The NRSC, I could guarantee, they're on a high they haven't been in quite some time. They thought she was dead in this race. And now they're going to fundraise dramatically. And their negative ads, whoever decides they're going to run, they will be hit with a negative ad the day that they get announced. And then it's just going to be blanket the entire state. So, look, it's going to be a wave year. Platinum was still only down five in the absolute worst of it. I think he still could have won, personally. If he stayed it in Fata, I actually really think he could have won by maybe one or two points.

52:35But, you know, it would have been a lot harder. But I think so. But he decided to drop out. So now it's just a big question, I think, about who's going to be able to replace him. And if the process doesn't play out for the activists in the way that they want, do they show up in November? Or are they going to say, screw you, politics is done for me? If they feel screwed, that could definitely hurt them in November. I think one final thought is like a meta thought here. in this show and also independent media kind of allows us to do this more honest kind of coverage. And frankly, just to let people in on it like personally and professionally, it's not fun.

53:18No, I'd actually rather not do it. And if you're at a kind of corporate media outlet, you kind of just don't do it. And you're actually okay with that. I can't do it. Like, so in 2020, um alex morse's democratic candidate i remember him um running in western massachusetts got accused of all sorts of stuff and i i said what what's the where's the evidence for this i was getting called a creep or a rape apologist and then over time it turned out and we we did the reporting on this that it was a actual coordinated smear campaign right that was fabricated by people who wanted jobs in the other guy's office.

54:02And the guy's entire reputation was saved. He still ended up losing because it's damaging stuff. He's now province town mayor, not mayor, what do you call it, town manager. Best job in the world for him. Sounds great. In 2021, Scott Stringer was running for mayor and faced some really complicated and odd allegations, which are now still playing out in court. we were the only ones that did any reporting on what are the actual allegations here? And it's not because we want to do that. It's that because structurally we can, there's an obligation to do it. Because if we can do it and we know that there are facts out there that aren't being included in the public discussion, even if it's difficult to put those forward, if we don't do it, But then what are we doing with the space that has been created for us by this independent audience?

54:56I agree. We would just be coasting on it and cynically just cashing checks. So if you're not doing the hard thing, you're not living up to your obligation. And you have to see. So that's a thank you to the people who make this possible. And you have to see. And look, I mean, this isn't about us. But we can see how many DMs do we get from people in the mainstream media who are like, thank you for doing that. Yes. Thank you for doing that. Yes. But they can't do it. Like all day yesterday. Yes. People reaching out. Yeah. Good story. Great story. You're totally right. But, you know, guess what? They're working for a big corporation.

55:32Columbia Journalism Review. I mean, look what happened. I just told you. Mika Brzezinski is a multimillionaire host of MSNBC. Daughter of a titan. Right. A titan of the American whatever. As high up as you can get in the echelon. She's getting hit for being semi-skeptical about a Me Too allegation to a reporter, not even to a victim. All right. And so for just the general principle of very serious allegations requires require serious scrutiny. And, you know, again, you know, all the people at Politico, these reporters, they're being hailed as heroes. Maybe they are. I don't know. You got you guys can decide.

56:05Jake Tapper. Oh, my God. What a great interview. Everything is all praise. So if you don't swim in that current and you swim against it, the hatred that you engender in that moment, you put your literal livelihood at risk. And so it's easier to just stay silent. But they do know how to scrutinize allegations when Tara Reade came forward with one on the record. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Anybody who is inconvenient to the system, then they definitely know how to scrutinize a victim. Or they know how— Or the right with Christine Blasey Ford on the right. Christine Blasey, oh, she's the greatest truth teller in history, even though I'm like.

56:43Or on the right, she's the biggest liar in history. Or the biggest liar. All the same people who were celebrating. I know, that's right. Yeah, exactly. These guys who, you know, called the Hegsteth accuser like basically a liar, you know, who are all like, oh, what a brave. I'm like, well, which is it, guys? You know, it's one or the other. I'm consistent. Like, I'm basically, I'm like, I basically, at this point in this day and age, if it's a racism allegation or a rape allegation, I'm like, you got to prove it to me first. Okay. Also, people are like, what about it? What if it's somebody you don't agree with?

57:15We scrutinized the Hegseth allegation in a very serious way. I think Hegseth belongs in prison for war crimes. I think he's a despicable human being. But we scrutinized that allegation because that's what you do with serious allegations. And that's how you maintain a little bit of credibility. So anyway, we'll get off of our soapboxes. Joy is essential and it's also elusive. But now there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotb. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chats.

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