In short
The episode covers three main topics: (1) Hunter Biden’s appearance on Tucker Carlson, focused on a revised “laptop/hard drive” origin story and a dispute over whether Biden dropped off the device at a blind repair-shop owner’s store in Greenville, Delaware; claims include that the FBI later matched the MacBook Pro serial number in court and that the “laptop” was actually a hard drive passed through Rudy Giuliani’s Ukraine network (Lev Parnas, Andrei Derkash, Igor Fruman) and eventually to Giuliani lawyer Bob Costello. Notable examples cited: Lev Parnas testimony; John Paul MacIsaac’s lack of memory/security footage; “10% for the big guy” via Tony Bobulinski. (2) USS Lincoln morale collapse: extended deployment (38 weeks no port), moldy showers, shortages, and multiple sailors attempting to jump overboard; linked to Iran-war posture and Israel missile defense. (3) Gaza “ceasefire” breakdown: Netanyahu rejects a 15-point plan; Israel allegedly continues near-daily attacks, home burning, sanitation disruption, blocked aid, and expanding the “Yellow Line,” with journalist deaths/detentions highlighted.
Guests
none named as interviewees in the transcript; the hosts and “Ryan” are referenced, plus Tucker Carlson and journalists (e.g., Sharif Abdelkader, Abdelkader Sada, Mohammed Ahmed) as sources.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOHunter Biden on Tucker Carlson
0:45 to 2:25
Discussion on Hunter Biden's appearance on Tucker Carlson's show and new claims regarding his laptop.
“Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.”
The Laptop Controversy
2:25 to 7:25
In-depth analysis of the story surrounding Hunter Biden's laptop and the inconsistencies involved.
“Well, Hunter Biden stopped by Tucker Carlson's show this week to make a new case about where potentially his infamous laptop came from.”
Exploring the Context
7:25 to 12:00
Contextualization of Hunter Biden's claims and their implications in the broader political narrative.
“It is not comparable in any way whatsoever.”
Hunter Biden's Strategies
12:00 to 14:00
Discussion on Hunter Biden's tactics regarding legal battles and media appearances.
“Fox reports the deposition is related to an ongoing lawsuit between Biden and the firm Winston Taylor for unpaid legal bills.”
Hunter Biden's Laptop Controversy
14:00 to 18:00
Discussion on Hunter Biden's interviews and implications of his business dealings.
“But he is also in all of these interviews saying that the laptops found nothing that implicates him in trading on access.”
USS Lincoln's Mental Health Crisis
18:38 to 28:00
Exploration of the mental health crisis aboard the USS Lincoln and ongoing military issues.
“I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain.”
Reflections on Aging and Culture
28:00 to 28:30
Discussion on perceptions of aging in different cultures.
“I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration.”
Examining the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
30:18 to 39:45
Detailed account of the ongoing situation in Gaza and Israel's military actions.
“Listen to Wellness Actually on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.”
Media Coverage and Political Implications
39:45 to 42:00
Discussion on how media coverage and politics affect perceptions of the Gaza conflict.
“July saw further escalation and was the deadliest month of 2026.”
The Impact of Journalists in Gaza
42:00 to 43:58
Learn about the challenges facing journalists reporting from Gaza amidst conflict.
“ceasefire and he covered the Gaza ceasefire so closely.”
Transcript
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2:25Emily Jashinsky:Well, Hunter Biden stopped by Tucker Carlson's show this week to make a new case about where potentially his infamous laptop came from. It's... Parts of the story sound legitimate, other parts of it less legitimate. We'll have a little fact check. But first, take a listen here to this origin story or this new version of the origin story of the Hunter Biden laptop. Then the official story comes out about how the laptop was left, you left a couple of laptops in a laptop repair store in Greenville, Delaware, which I'm a town I'm very familiar with. So, and the guy was blind. Then I interviewed the guy who seemed to totally believe the story, John McIsaac.
3:05I mean, he seemed to be telling the truth, but the story did not make sense. Meanwhile, I'm getting, we get approached by Israelis connected to Benjamin Netanyahu. like I know that, who are shopping this stuff to me at Fox News. And I'm like, I don't think that that part of the story, the laptop is real. I thought that from day one, but the way that it entered the bloodstream of the American media was not real. So I just want to ask you point blank, did you drop off laptops? No. And this is the thing that I've said over and over again. I have literally zero recollection or memory of ever dropping off a laptop at John paul mcisaac's no the answer is no and john paul mc isaac so john paul mcisaac who's legally blind yes who on the day when the laptop became public sat in outside of his shop and gave an interview and flat out says that he doesn't remember seeing me he couldn't identify me and also that his security cameras that he has don't have any footage from that time.
4:12And so regardless though, regardless of anything, just this, the laptop, according to Lev Parnas, under oath in his testimony before the House Oversight Committee, was being sought by Rudy Giuliani in Ukraine all the way back in 2018. And so Rudy Giuliani is working with a guy named Andrei Derkash, who was an MP in Ukraine and a known Russian GRU agent. So Rudy goes over there and basically takes his dossier and receives information that Hunter Biden's hard drive, not laptop, is for sale. and the person that they can go to is this other Ukrainian-Russian oligarch who is living in Austria. That's what Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were doing getting on the plane before they were arrested.
5:09So how did this - Before John Paul MacIsaac was ever a twinkle in anybody's eye. I believe that. The story, that was always the weak part of the story. Like he drops off laptops and forgets them. So even John Paul MacIsaac, okay, There is no such thing as a laptop. The laptop that he eventually turns over a year later, 18 months later to the FBI. The thing that he that is distributed and disseminated that John Paul McIsaac claims that he got off of a device was a hard drive. And that hard drive had a limited amount of information, a limited amount of like gigabytes. I don't know the difference between a gigabyte and whatever.
5:52And that goes into the hands. He somehow can't find anybody. You can't throw a stone in Trolley Square without hitting someone that knows me personally. Right. And he knows that. He's lived there his whole life. Instead, what he finds through this guy, Applebaum, is Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, Bob Costello. who turns over this hard drive. The hard drive becomes the platform.
6:26Emily Jashinsky:So a couple of things. Just first of all, that laptop was presented as evidence in trial, and they traced the serial number. So I'm reading from the New York Post here, which originally broke the story. The actual laptop was presented as evidence at then First Son's 2024 illegal gun possession trial. FBI Special Agent Erica Jenton testified that the MacBook Pro 13 serial number on the back belonged to then-President Joe Biden's son as he sat in the courtroom. So Hunter Biden is being careful. Notice the language when he says, I do not recall. This is his story consistently. I've watched literally every major podcast interview that he's done.
7:05Emily Jashinsky:He has said consistently he doesn't recall dropping off the laptop at John Paul McIsaac's repair shop in Delaware. John Paul McIsaac is blind and has said that because of this, he could not confirm that Hunter Biden did it. There is no security camera footage that we know of of Hunter Biden dropping off the laptop. But the timeline would fit with Hunter Biden potentially not recalling that he had dropped off the laptop. Ryan, important noise to contextualize new Hunter Biden coverage since the second Trump administration has kicked off by saying Hunter Biden corruption, which was very real and which he is not totally copying to, is on a level, it's on a totally different planet from what we're seeing from the Trump administration, the Trump family, the Whitcoff family.
7:47Emily Jashinsky:It is not comparable in any way whatsoever. That is not necessarily vindicating, but I'm curious from your perspective, having covered Israeli influence operations, especially as they relate to the media, how much of the story sounds plausible? What's the point of him lying about this? I don't understand. Like, if the hard drive is authentic, like what what i'm trying to get at what point is he trying how does it help him is he just trying to deflect this to israel yes now that israel is like the boogeyman yes and i think the dc establishment is the boogeyman as well i think there were and you'd probably agree with this there are absolutely hanky things going on with rudy giuliani going to ukraine and trying to pin this trying to drum up corruption evidence on hunter biden which really was not that difficult to do.
8:38Emily Jashinsky:So yes, Rudy Giuliani, Lev Parnas, they're involved in this wild plot to implicate Hunter Biden in corruption because they knew about the Burisma thing. And so I think they knew that if they scratched the surface, perhaps other evidence would present itself. But he says, and Tucker's now saying that he was approached by people, Israelis, he said Israelis, not people connected to Israel. He said specifically by Israelis when he was at Fox News pushing the story. And that does sometimes happen when somebody is pushing a story or when a story is suddenly starting to kind of materialize. You can sometimes connect the dots about who is behind the scenes trying to make the story materialize by who's pushing it on you, by who's saying like, you should really cover this.
9:22Anyway.
9:23Emily Jashinsky:But does that, I mean, I actually don't even know why the Israelis would do that to Hunter Biden. Blackmail? They really love Trump so much? I don't know. yeah that's i mean i don't see it yeah well there's something i mean anytime you got ukrainian you know there's it's a it's a it's an amorphous world but i don't i also don't see the point and he claims to have gotten sober i believe in the spring and summer of 2019 and the laptop was according to mcissaq dropped off in april of 2019 so this would not have that's why i think again he's being careful and saying i don't recall any of that uh but to your your question also can we underline he so they found the laptop they matched it yeah serial number like he dropped the laptop somebody dropped the laptop off who else would do it i don't know and from the laptop we know he was hanging out with quite an interesting cast of characters at the time yeah no also the fact that the blind guy at the computer store didn't see you does not I don't need to point out the obvious.
10:28Of course, he didn't see you.
10:30Emily Jashinsky:It's such a wild Hunter Biden story. The blind guy at the computer shop, like only Hunter. But to your point about why he's making these claims, I would submit as evidence D2. Let's watch. You know, you could say lots of things about Trump are bad, but getting us into a war we can't win in which Americans are dying in Iran that will only diminish America's power and bankrupt us. I mean, that's the only exit, really. Yeah. And make Iran stronger. And like, no, no, Chuck Schumer is like, yeah, it's bad. But of course he endorses, like the whole leadership structure endorses that. So like, can't really say, like they like Trump now.
11:09Yeah. I don't know if they like Trump. Maybe it's like he's obnoxious or whatever, but he's doing what they want. I think it's a little bit of a, well, by the way, I don't disagree that there is an enormous failure of the, of what I call the, the elite oligarch Epstein class of Washington, DC. Yes. That are, that you and I both know. Very well. Yes. And that have, that are as interested in protecting their, their, their corporate overlords as they are in protecting anything.
11:48Emily Jashinsky:OK, so the elite Epstein class, which Ryan, speaking our language here, right up our alley. Let's put this Fox News tar sheet up on the screen. D3, Hunter Biden in a deposition that was recently released is saying that his family is broke. He's being crushed by legal fees. Fox reports the deposition is related to an ongoing lawsuit between Biden and the firm Winston Taylor for unpaid legal bills. Winston Taylor claims the Biden scion owes it$17 million from representing him in criminal prosecutions, congressional investigations, and defamation suits against his critics. Joe Biden actually left the presidency in debt, I think like$800 ,000 of debt.
12:29Emily Jashinsky:So the Bidens are trying hard to gin up business one way or another. Jill Biden released her book. Joe Biden's about to release his book. And Hunter Biden has a sub stack that he's plugging in these interviews. Ryan, I think the tactic here is actually really clever. And I'm as amused and entertained by Hunter Biden's sometimes revelatory interviews on these podcast channels as much as anyone else's. I think it's clever. I do think it's strategic. But right now, the way to make money in Washington is to say that you're revealing how people make money in Washington. Like that's the new that's kind of can become the new grift.
13:08There was a funny point, funny moment in the interview where he says, I don't want to be a corporate chill anymore. What on earth was I even adding to the conversation? It's like, that's why I want to live in authenticity now. It's why I'm, I'm an, it's why I'm an artist. It's why I'm writing a substack. It's why I'm working with multiple nonprofits that are, that are doing aftercare and doing drug, drug treatment. It's why I'm working with Bitcoin. It's why I'm working with, you're like, wait. What was that last one? Bitcoin? Bitcoin. And then he says, because I love Bitcoin, but also because I'm getting paid.
13:46It's like, okay, what are we doing here? Yes.
13:49Emily Jashinsky:And he keeps saying that there's... Also, he is a perfect spokesperson for Bitcoin. So perfect. Like, have you ever needed to move huge amounts of money untraceably across borders to make purchases that may or may not be legal in the state where you live? live or the country where you live. I have a product for you. He should be doing ads. Yes. Just like that. Tag hunt slash hunter. Yeah. Yeah. Discount code hunter. But he is also in all of these interviews saying that the laptops found nothing that implicates him in trading on access. He says that he shouldn't have done Burisma, that he understands now why that was bad.
14:32Emily Jashinsky:No kidding. The people quietly in the Obama administration at the time were raising red flags about it. The State Department were raising red flags about it at the time. But again, he said to Tucker, I did not trade on access. Well, if we're agreeing that this laptop is real, there's so, so much evidence that he was trading on access. The Post points out he was doing these dinners at Cafe Milano with his dad, with Kazakhstani, Russian and Ukrainian patrons all easily connected to the government. He was doing coffee at the Four Seasons with the Chinese business associates. And that, by the way, we remember, as the Post points out, he, quote, threatened his father's wrath if a payment was not made.
15:11Emily Jashinsky:And you can tell when he's doing these business deals, he's on crack over and over again. He's on something because he's unintelligible in some of the text messages where he is threatening his dad's wrath. Like, that's actually pretty obvious. But Tucker's the one who did the interview with Tony Bobulinski, who was formerly a business partner, was involved in the business. He met Trump in the lobby of a hotel. I mean, I've met Biden. Right. And Bob Alinsky is the one who revealed the 10 % for the big guy comment. And so anyway, all this to say, if you go to, who's the guy that's done the great laptop breakdowns?
15:49Emily Jashinsky:I wish I remembered the name so I could plug the website. But if you go to this website, there is just enormous amount of breakdowns, not about any of the sexual stuff, but about the business stuff from the laptops. It's like a YouTuber? He might be a YouTuber, but he has like PDFs where he's isolated a lot of the important parts from the laptop documents. And you can look at the business connections. It's also convoluted and pretty impossible to follow. You're like Charlie Kelly on the Pepe Silva board when you're trying to put it together. But it's just ridiculous. There was intelligence agents that were working to cover up the story that were using CIA email addresses to organize that 51 former intelligence agent letter to make it so that when you tried to send the New York Post's reporting on this in a direct message, Twitter said, nope, can't do it.
16:35Emily Jashinsky:It came back with an error. I remember you couldn't do that. And the types of corruption that he was engaged in are just deeply corrosive to our democratic system. At the same time, they're also patty cake compared to Trump's sons who are just straight up like, oh, Kazakhstan, you want a defense pact? Yep. And you want, then how about you make us 50 % owners of this mine? Yep. I'm sorry, what? Why? It is just. Forget the$50 ,000 a month retainer. They're like, we want to own half the mine. Wide open corruption. For free. For all of you to see, it's staggering levels of corruption, family business dealings.
17:21Emily Jashinsky:Their argument is probably internally that it makes them more like the Arab countries who can just wheel and deal in a way that's better for the country because they know best. And they're more sophisticated cocaine rather than crack. Yes, much more sophisticated. But anyway, worth remembering, and I went through some of that stuff on an after-party episode. No, not the cocaine. I didn't go through some of that stuff. But some of the laptop stuff on an After Party episode a couple weeks ago, if people want to take a look at it, because the Hunter Biden media tour is amusing, and I'm all for him spilling the secrets.
17:54Emily Jashinsky:We also don't need to whitewash the truth about what he was mixed up in either. So that's enough of that. Let's head to the USS Lincoln. Say big on your landscaping project at Menards. Whether you're looking for edgers, pavers, or wall blocks, Menards has the largest in-stock selection of concrete landscape block ready to take home today. Build a beautiful border for your landscape with our interlock edgers on sale now through August 16th. Save big on landscape block at Menards. Also check out our weekly flyer on Menards.com for all the great deals happening now. Save big money at Menards. I'm Mungish Shatikular and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive.
18:40This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work.
19:24Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, it's that time again Backpacks, first day of school outfits And the low-key anxiety of Am I even doing this right? Good Mom's Bad Choices is diving into the back-to-school season The way only we know how Unfiltered, funny, and full of the moments other shows won't touch From surviving morning drop-offs To the guilt of missing the first bake sale I already told me that next season she wants to join a club team that's by your house so I was like so you want me to pick you up from school I'll take her by my house but then I have to take her there and then I have to drive back and then some days I'm here and I have to go pick you up at school and then bring you I was just like hell no this is a space where moms trade their highlight reel for the real real whether you're a new mom, a veteran mom or just trying to make it to pick up on time this season of Good Moms Bad Choices is for you.
20:28Listen to Good Moms Bad Choices from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So at the start of the Iran war, the United States had two carrier groups in the region. One of them had multiple difficulties, including the underwear section of the ship catching fire. That's the Gerald Ford, as well as people accidentally flushing socks and T-shirts down the toilets, clogging them up. So the Gerald Ford carrier group had to retreat from our war effort. That left the USS Lincoln, which cost us something like$10 or$20 billion to produce, which cost us, I think, around$8 million a day to operate.
21:11I was just doing a little math. That's about$300 ,000 an hour to keep that thing going. Let's check in on how it's going. Not so well. I'll put this first element up on the screen. Sailors are trying to jump off the thing as it's been out in the ocean for more than 240 days at this point. Let's roll this first thought. You guys, there's a mental health crisis happening aboard the USS Lincoln in the Middle East that no one is talking about, and mainly because the Navy's pretty much quashing it. You will read online about food shortages, supply shortages, poor morale among crew members. That's because they've been at sea continuously for 250 days.
21:58They've been deployed a total of 271 days, 250 without a port of call. That's unheard of. Normally they would go to port every three to six weeks. They have not been to port in 38 weeks. Keep in mind there are 52 weeks in a year. And yes, the showers are moldy. They're eating basically like a gruel kind of slop at this point. There's no deodorant. There is no toothpaste. My nephew has a friend on board there. And I was basically hearing updates last week when I was in the States in real time. They're not talking about the mental health crisis. Six people have tried to jump off that ship. The most recent was last Monday.
22:34You know, when you have not touched land in 38 weeks, in over 200 days, things start to happen to you mentally. You know, combine that with exhaustion and deadly mistakes start to happen. So, you know, this is how the Department of War, this is how Donald Trump treats our service men and women whose lives are already being put in harm's way for a bullshit war of aggression that was supposed to be over in a matter of weeks. We are further putting their lives at risk out of sheer ineptitude and neglect. It defies logic. It defies reason. And it defies basic fucking humanity. And this is not just a guy saying his nephew talked to his cousin.
23:14and we can put up this next element. I just think it's E2 from the Military Times. Multiple USS Abraham Lincoln settlers have tried to go overboard amid extended deployment, families say. So this is extraordinarily serious. This is, you know, you go back, you read novels about like 19th century seafaring. Okay, they had it worse than these guys had. This is not good. No, 38 weeks. And, you know, they're getting resupplied, you know, from shore as quickly as possible from little, you know, shuttle boats going back and forth. But this is this is getting dark. And this is this is what the U.S. has to threaten Iran with as it's going into these negotiations or negotiations that aren't exactly happening.
24:04Right. Like if you don't give us what we want in these talks, you know, we're going to unleash hell on you again because we have the fearsome USS Lincoln nearby, which we spent billions of dollars to construct and many billions more training and recruiting sailors and supplying them. And if you're looking at it, you're like, I don't I'm not so sure this is in fighting force. If, you know, it has already moved significantly out of, you know, close range of Iranian missiles, which undercuts the whole point of having an aircraft carrier group, right? It's like supposed to be mobile and get you close to your targets.
24:42Now, if they come under, you know, drone barrages or other cruise missile attacks, you're going to be, you know, the sailors who are in charge of the defense of the ship are not going to be at their peak performance. Clearly not.
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24:58Emily Jashinsky:So Stars and Stripes, which my recollection is the Department of War has tried to sort of editorially assert dominance over, also reported yesterday that there's this massive meeting between families of people who are deployed on the USS Lincoln and Navy Secretary Hong Kao. in one case they say from this meeting a spouse tearfully told officials that she received a message that same day from her husband saying quote he hopes he doesn't wake up tomorrow yeah i mean 38 weeks in right and and for what it's like not really even in the fight in the end i think that's what's so demoralizing probably for them the actual for what uh is that it's there to provide missile defense for Israel.
25:47That's the Navy's main role at this point in the region is if hardcore fighting breaks out again, Israel is down to, as we've reported, double-digit ballistic missile interceptors and is relying almost exclusively on the U.S. Navy being nearby to be able to shoot down Iranian cruise missiles. Otherwise, Tel Aviv would look like Kiev now, which has basically depleted its stock of missile interceptors. And now when there are ballistic missile attacks from Russia on Kiev, you see headlines of 10, 12, 25, 55, like significant casualties because they're no longer able to shoot them down.
26:36Emily Jashinsky:Yeah, they also don't have a publicly announced return date. And so they're just kind of in limbo. And that's enormously demoralizing, too, especially when the commander in chief is vacillating back and forth between, well, the war is about this or the war is about this. The war is over. The war is not over. I just can't imagine they were supposed to that. The anticipated end date was back in May and now they don't have a return date. There doesn't seem to be an end in sight for them right now. They did a record deployment without without what's the best way to put it without a port stop. Mm-hmm.
27:13Emily Jashinsky:It's a bad situation. Bad situation for everybody. If you support the war, this is obviously a bad situation. Even if you are one of the few people in this country that actually supports the war, this is a bad situation. Yeah. Yes, indeed. All right. Let's move on, Ryan, to your reporting out of Gaza. I'm Munga Shatikula, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.
27:50I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, it's that time again Backpacks, first day of school outfits And the low-key anxiety of Am I even doing this right?
28:38Good Mom's Bad Choices is diving into the back-to-school season The way only we know how Unfiltered, funny, and full of the moments other shows won't touch From surviving morning drop-offs To the guilt of missing the first bake sale I already told me that next season she wants to join a club team that's by your house so I was like so you want me to pick you up from school I'll take her by my house but then I have to take her there and then I have to drive back and then some days I'm here and I have to go pick you up at school and then bring you I was just like hell no this is a space where moms trade their highlight reel for the real real whether you're a new mom, a veteran mom or just trying to make it to pick up on time this season of Good Moms Bad Choices is for you.
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30:48Israel has been doing there month by month. I'll talk about that in a moment, but to get you up to date first, last week, after the Board of Peace, the U.S. and Hamas reached a deal that would see Hamas disarm and relinquish power in exchange for Israel withdrawing from the Gaza Strip, an odd thing happened. Or, I should say, it's odd if you have believed American media claims over the past three years that Israel was not attempting to carry out ethnic cleansing in Gaza and had no intention of expelling the population and seizing the territory, but instead was truly only interested in getting its hostages back and making sure Hamas could never threaten Israel again.
31:24If you believed that, hearing this from Netanyahu would have been odd. Here he is speaking in Hebrew after a recent security cabinet meeting. As for the Gaza Strip, Netanyahu is saying, First of all, I want to clarify the main thing. As long as I am prime minister, no Palestinian state will arise, not in Gaza and not in Judea and Samaria, neither Fatah-stan nor Hamas-stan. As for specific things coming up in the news lately, I want to be precise here. Israel rejects the 15-point document. I heard people saying, you didn't say it, so here I am saying it again. Israel rejects the 15-point document.
32:01The IDF will not carry out any withdrawal until Hamas is disarmed. And when I say disarming Hamas of its weapons, that means the heavy weapons, the less heavy weapons, all the weapons, and we're talking about real disarmament, not fictitious disarmament. Now we're talking to the Americans about this issue. They have ideas, some of which are acceptable to us, and some are not acceptable to us, and we know how to stand firm on these things. Now Netanyahu is resisting the agreement for a number of reasons. Among them is the looming election in which any concessions at all to Hamas, even ones already agreed to and done for the purposes of disarmament would be costly among voters.
32:39Of course, most Palestinians under Israeli control cannot vote. Now, the deal being discussed is an extension of the one struck in early October 2025. What has happened since is chilling. Shortly after the agreement was reached, the IDF began burning homes, shops, and crucially, the Sheikh Adjlin Sewage Treatment Station, a central component of Gaza City's sanitation network. In September, according to the Gaza Ministry of Health, some 2 ,500 people were killed by the Israeli assault. In October, in the weeks after the ceasefire was reached on the 11th, Israel and its proxies killed 226 Palestinians in Gaza and injured 594.
33:21In November, Israel continued its deadly strikes with war planes bombing tent encampments and displacement shelters, conducting one of the bloodiest assaults, killing over 30 Palestinians, a majority of whom were women and children. Troops also continued moving deeper into Gaza City, expanding the so-called Yellow Line and seizing more territory. On a humanitarian front, aid restrictions continued, with even emergency aid being denied as heavy winter storms hit, causing massive flooding and tents to collapse from the rain, putting hundreds of thousands of Palestinians at risk. Israel had agreed to allow for reconstruction as part of the deal, but instead blocked supplies and equipment needed.
34:00Israel called another 130 people in November and wounded 315. In December, satellite images showed that Israel was preparing for a permanent presence by constructing at least 13 new military outposts inside Gaza. A lack of waste management resulting from the earlier attacks led to a buildup of 900 ,000 tons of garbage, exacerbating the public health crisis due to Israel's control of all of Gaza's major landfill areas. Israel killed 60 Palestinians in December, the least violent month of this quote-unquote ceasefire, and wounded another 244. In January, Israeli encroachment into Palestinian land continued with the military turning the yellow line, splitting Gaza into a physical barrier.
34:43Palestinians walking too close to it would be shot on sight, with no indication given of what counted as too close. At the same time, Trump rolled out his quote, board of peace plan. Children continued to be killed in a surge of attacks in what were supposed to be safe zones. By this point in January, Israel was killing an average of five Palestinians every day since the ceasefire. As the winter weather continued, shelter supplies were blocked from entering the Strip, leading to dozens dying from cold temperatures, including babies. One-year-old Mohamed Basiouni became the seventh child to die of exposure that winter.
35:18At least 25 more were crushed to death by collapsing buildings as storms ripped through Gaza and even more of the population was forced into tents, even as Israel blocked delivery of tents. That month, 107 were killed by Israeli attacks and 290 wounded. In February, Gaza's government media office put out a report demonstrating that Israel had violated the ceasefire agreement over 1 ,500 times, with civilians, including women, children, and medical workers being routinely targeted. targeted. The prevention of equipment and supplies to search for bodies in the rubble led to families resorting to crude measures to try and find the family's remains.
35:57One man was left to search for his family, the remains of his pregnant wife, unborn child, and children by digging through the dirt with a flower sifter. That month, Israel blocked engine oil and spare parts from getting into Gaza, a move that would have debilitating consequences for machinery, vehicles, and generators over coming months. Throughout February, 106 people were killed and another 250 wounded. In March, after strikes on Iran, Israel reimposed a total siege on Gaza, causing fuel and food supplies to dwindle. 84 people were killed as the world's attention turned away and another 247 were wounded.
36:35In April, as Israel began increasingly outsourcing violence to local militias, one of them launched a deadly attack on a refugee camp, firing at people's homes and at children under the cover of airstrikes, killing at least 10 and wounding dozens. Later, a nine-year-old girl, Ritaj Rehan, was shot to death in Beit Lahiyah while attending class at a school made up of makeshift tents. DropSite's Mohammed Ahmed spoke with her mother, Ola Rehan, about the day, and she told him, quote,
37:31Quote, She went on her own two feet and she came back to me on a stretcher. Meanwhile, Israel was also denying insecticide and rat poison. Ahmed Dremli reported on the surging rat infestation. Those sleeping in tents had to contend with more than just the elements and now would be routinely bitten while they slept. 115 more Palestinians were killed in April and 402 were wounded. All of this continued in May, with warnings of an environmental and biological apocalypse if urgent action was not taken. Families continued searching through rubble for their loved ones by hand due to a lack of appropriate equipment allowed into the Strip.
38:11The physical divide at the Yellow Line had been fortified with newly constructed military bases. On Eid Day, strikes killed at least 16 Palestinians. The World Central Kitchen announced it was rolling back their food and contribution due to financial pressure, noting specifically that the reduction was not due to a change in need on the ground. That month, Israel killed another 104 people and wounded 517 in Gaza. In June, the number of people killed since the ceasefire topped 1 ,000. Israel also temporarily closed all of the border crossings in retaliation for Iran's retaliatory strikes, which came in response to Israel's attacks in Lebanon.
38:52Israeli airstrikes on tent encampments on the beach continued. Here's the Yassin family surveying the wreckage around their tents. Meanwhile, at the G7, Trump told the world that Hamas had been respecting the ceasefire. Here he is praising them in his bizarre Trumpian fashion. Look at the job we've done in Gaza. Look at Hamas. Hamas has been very silent. You haven't read anything about Hamas. And we're trying to get them unarmed. You know, they grew up with a machine gun in their hand. And I think they actually, when they were born, they came out with a machine gun in their hands. That's not the easiest thing.
39:30But they've actually behaved pretty well, considering this was not the lifestyle that they were taught to have. June ended with Israel killing another 127 Palestinians in Gaza and wounding 570. July saw further escalation and was the deadliest month of 2026. Israel firebombed a family home with children sleeping in the middle of the night. The Israeli army pushed the yellow line further in. Hundreds of bodies remain unidentified, buried in a mass cemetery, identified with numbers and not names. It's known as the Cemetery of the Missing. 163 were killed in July and another 624 wounded. In August, after the Board of Peace, Hamas and the U.S.
40:14agreed to the disarmament plan, Israel rejected it. and so Emily I just wanted to because Gaza has been fading a little bit from mainstream coverage um just wanted to remind people that there is technically a ceasefire in place uh yet on a near daily basis Israel will announce that it struck so-and-so person or tried to strike so-and-so person or there will just be news of like huge explosions and homes and tent encampments blown up. And it's a very odd understanding of a ceasefire when Israel will say, well, this was a commander who was involved in October 7th, so we attacked their home. It's like, okay, but I thought there's a ceasefire.
41:02Like this whole, they're Hamas, you made a ceasefire agreement with Hamas. So it's just such a, it's so hard for me to get my head around this idea that you'll reach a ceasefire and then just continue shooting at the person.
41:18Emily Jashinsky:And I'm so glad you did this because I've been waiting for somebody to put this all together just personally for a long time because it's hard to wrap your head around the day-to-day in Gaza, especially now that there's a war in Iran. It's just genuinely hard to keep track of day-to-day what's happening with the quote-unquote ceasefire. And for example, you wrote 13 military outposts have gone up as a really military outpost. I'm ashamed to say I didn't realize it was 13. Right. Had gone up in Gaza since the ceasefire. That is a remarkable fact. And it's something to your point that's getting buried in the coverage.
41:52Emily Jashinsky:And just the last thing I would say on that is I think that was part of Trump's plan. And we've talked about this. We've asked Jeremy this too, multiple times since he's been covering the Iran ceasefire and he covered the Gaza ceasefire so closely. I think Trump knows that he can make this public relations push to say he settled the conflict and then watch the corporate press put it on the back burner so that politically none of this matters. That's what he's betting on, is that politically none of this matters. And I do think, sadly, that's kind of proving to be true. And one reason that there's less coverage is that Israel has literally killed so many of the journalists there, two days ago was the one-year anniversary of the deliberate assassination of Anas al-Sharif, who was the most prominent Palestinian journalist working in Gaza.
42:42And just this morning, we got news that Mohammed Awad, who is a well-respected photojournalist in the West Bank and a drop site contributor as well, was arrested in a raid on his home in Ramallah. He becomes, by our account, or by account I saw, the 40th journalist who is currently detained by Israel.
43:08Emily Jashinsky:And so if you are killing and detaining the people who are going to tell you the news, even if the public's attention is waning and moving to other issues, if there aren't journalists to tell the story, then there's nothing to kind of take your attention away from. So what you just saw was the work of journalists who are still going in Gaza. Abdelkader Sada, Mohammed Ahmed, terrific, courageous journalists, as well as some others that I named there. Led by our Middle East Bureau Chief Sharif Abdelkader, which is just absolutely terrific. and they're still pushing, but so many of their colleagues have been killed or imprisoned that the work becomes that much more difficult.
43:59Emily Jashinsky:Well, thank you so much for putting that all together, Ryan. Appreciate it. All right, that'll do it for us today. Crystal and Sagar will be back tomorrow and we'll be back on Friday. Apologies, this one's probably going to hit your inbox late. We had some teleprompter issues. Yes, we did. Our apologies. And also we just kept talking. There's that too. Our apologies for that too. Yes. Thanks so much, everyone.
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