8/14/2025: GOP Rep Claims UFO Evidence, Laura Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene Fight Over Post-Trump World

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2:08Let's get to the next part, shall we? MAGA. And what does it all mean? So Laura Loomer, out with an interesting new take, which, you know, she may be right. So let's put it up there on the screen. Here's what she had to say. Quote,

2:49I think she's right. I actually think she's 100 % right because Trump is the most beloved figure in the Republican Party since Ronald Reagan. Now by the way, let's explain and define terms. Does that mean that the Republicans will not win a future election? No. What she's saying is that GOP as it's currently constituted is not going to survive post-Trump. I think that's accurate. And the reason why is his personality is the binding glue of everything. It's what keeps anti-Israel and pro-Israel folks fanatically pro-Trump who put their trust in the personality. It's what keeps – I don't even know.

3:26Like people who are pro-Steve Bannon want to raise taxes on the rich with people who like Ron Johnson who want to cut the corporate tax and don't want to stop stock trade banning. It's like the singularity of his personality. Maha. Oh, my God. Yeah. that Maha's going to exist in the same party as Lindsey Graham? You know, in the future? No, it's not happening. So it's his personality and his love with the base, which is what keeps it all together. It's genuine occult of personality. And I actually think that's why Loomer is the most accurate in her explanation of Trumpism, because it's all about him.

4:02Now, I'm not some supporter or whatever of Laura Loomer. I thought what she did with Vinayn Prasad was disgusting. But my point is just that at a political level, I do think she's correct. It's also why whoever comes next, you're just going to have a hell of a time because at a personality level, it's just like George H.W. Bush. Did he successfully ride Reagan's coattails to the 88 election? Sure. But he got blown out in 92. He didn't have the same personality, the same connection. Trump is Reagan-esque in terms of his love with the base. And also, let's think about what it took for the GOP to have to come back in the year 2000.

4:38It was eight years in the doldrums. A lot of it was defined by opposition to Clinton. You barely, I mean, you could define whether you won the election or not, you know, in 2000. But, you know, it came damn close for an electoral thing. And it took 9-11 and Iraq for you to win the popular vote in 2000. It took a long time. And then post after that, it took 20 years to win the popular vote again. So I think we are in a similar kind of turning point where, you know, in the next administration, MTG is not going to have to couch every single criticism in, but I love Trump. She's just going to be like, here's what I think.

5:15Yeah. And screw the current president. A lot of people did that under Bush. Nobody ever had that level of support with the base. I think the closest equivalent on the Democratic side, which has some lessons, is Obama. Right? And there was a lot of Democratic triumphalism, the coalition of the ascendant. You know, there was an assumption that this Obama coalition was something that was durable. Right? That it wasn't just specific to him and his particular charm and charisma and his story and all of whatever that entailed for people. And that was just not true. You know, the Obama coalition, he was the only person who could put together the Obama coalition.

5:49He was very good at getting himself elected. Not so good at getting other Democrats, especially in off years, elected and certainly wasn't able to hand his mantle even one election forward. And Hillary Clinton is ultimately defeated by Donald Trump. And then, you know, to your point about does that mean the Democratic Party never won an election again? No, of course not. Joe Biden gets elected. But that has not stopped the overall sort of deterioration of the Democratic Party position and put it in a potential doom spiral. Now, I think Trump is sort of like, in a sense, like rescuing them from that.

6:25And there's a possibility that out of that, you actually get, you know, someone who is more in the Zoran mold, who has the charisma and has a different type of politics and has some distance from the sins of the past, etc. That's certainly a possibility at this point for rebirth for the Democratic Party. There nothing is remotely guaranteed. But I think it's very possible the Republicans are similarly overestimating how much that realignment that they celebrate so much is truly durable outside of the singular personality of Donald Trump. And, you know, he like whether it's J.D. Vance or Don Jr.

7:00or whoever or Marco Rubio, whoever it is that he tries to really anoint as his successor. You know, I think he will have about as much sway with the electorate in anointing a successor as Barack Obama ultimately did. Well, you know, the Clinton example is a great one. So why did Al Gore fail in the 2000 election? Where, by the way, even if you think he won or whatever, he only won by 500 votes in the state of Florida. It's a massive screw up compared to 96. 96. The 96 to 2000 map is one of the biggest sea changes in politics that very few people go back. And they don't look at it. They really ignore what happened.

7:35Well, the story within that was that Clinton, again, his support was all about Bubba, like him and his talks, you know, folksy kind of way of connecting. But it wasn't built on anything like political message. And Gore tried to separate himself from Lewinsky, but also kind of embraced himself with his like steady hand on the wheel. It almost worked. But the point actually for whoever comes next is if Trump is unpopular but very popular with the base, you cannot win your primary without wholly embracing him. This is a huge problem because in 08, McCain did what? He was like, yeah, Bush, he's like, fuck off.

8:12Don't ever campaign with me. Sit in the White House. I want nothing to do with you. And that was, to the extent he had any chance, it was by able to draw some parallel away from Bush. And Bush, he didn't mind. Or maybe he did, but he didn't do anything about it. You think Trump is going to tolerate that? I mean, what are you going to do? You're going to have to kiss Trump's ass all day long if you want to get yourself to win the primary. But then how do you win a general election? Something I've been thinking about is in 27, I cannot wait to ask JD to be like, Like, hey, man, you flamed Kamala for saying that you had no difference between herself and Joe Biden.

8:52So do you have any difference in how you would have handled this presidency under Trump? He can't answer that, honestly. We all know it, OK? But that's a real problem if Trump is at 35 % popularity but 90 % popularity with the GOP base. And, you know, that's one where a Democrat, you're not held by those chains. You can just say whatever you want. There is no leader of the Democratic Party. You can win the damn primary. And so you've got all of these forces which are built on his own personality. And also, look, as long as he's alive, he will remain the tweeter-in-chief. It doesn't matter. You think he's going to give up the reins when he's not president?

9:29He will be the Mongol king in Mar-a-Lago who summons whoever the Republican is down there once a month. Because if they want something to be done, Trump has got to support it. So it's not George W. Bush who does his paintings and goes to Rangers games. Like, you think Trump will abide by the presidential norms of post-presidency? He's going to be tweeting up until the day he dies. So there's a lot of personality problems that are built into this that just never have existed. I mean, maybe Theodore Roosevelt is the best example of a president who served two-ish terms, you know, and then kind of tried to come back and did nuke Taft in the election.

10:07So that could be, you know, the scenario that we see in the future. But I just see bad roads ahead. for the GOP because of that personality base thing? And how are you going to run and establish yourself as something new unless you really are on a massive high water mark like the Reagan administration was in 89? I'm not so sure that that's gonna happen. We're still three and a half years away. Nobody really knows. Well, and you can also see it kind of coming apart in real time with all of this factional infighting that is broken out. And Laura Loomer's at the center. I think you're absolutely right that she understands.

10:41This is the reason why she comes to the White House and has the influence she does, because she gets it. This is not about anything other than Donald Trump and the person of Donald Trump and loyalty to Donald Trump and whatever Donald Trump says. Like, that is the end-all, be-all. She understands that, and that's the game she plays. And that's why she has been able to position herself so effectively in this administration. But you've got her fighting with MTG. We'll give you some of those details in a minute. You've got the influencer wars with, you know, Candace versus Fuentes and Fuentes versus Tucker.

11:10And, you know, Fuentes is really serving. I see so much, so many parallels with like the left after Bernie's defeat in 2020. Absolutely. Where there's the sense of nihilism that takes hold, where you've got Jimmy Dore out there. Brianna. You know, as the, you know, the purist of the pure. And it's a very similar kind of a dynamic that you see unfolding of all this like bitter acrimony, personality conflicts. And then you also have some like substantive, you have vast actually substantive policy differences between a number of these camps as well. But MTG and Laura Loomer have been fighting in a way that only the MAGA ladies can go at it.

11:53It really is a particular brand of messiness like at new levels. We can put this up on the screen, some of these quotes. So this is from a Daily Beast rundown of all of this. The headline is, Fuming Loomer Goes Nuclear on MTG and All Night Attack. The far-right provocateur has gone after her fellow MAGA Republican, Representative Margie Taylor Greene, with a level of vitriol that is striking, even by Loomer standards, calling the lawmaker a rabid dog and a lying, fake Christian whore. In part, she said, this is a woman who allowed her sexual impulses to tear her family apart. She wants to now tear our country apart to try to steal Trump's movement away from him.

12:34Don't let this homewrecker become a country homewrecker. We can put the next piece up on the screen a little bit from MTG. She says she has no about Loomer. She has no longtime relationships because she psychotically turns on everyone. Laura Loomer is the most unstable person and worst liability to ever walk in the Oval Office. Fighting began, they say, after Loomer stunned some of her own supporters by ranting against the military's decision to celebrate a Medal of Honor recipient. there is a lot more here by the way in terms of the back and forth was quite lengthy and extensive including Loomer accusing Green of getting bent over backwards inside the gym by every man who isn't your husband so that was the general tenor of this dispute I believe this came after Loomer had said something about MTG's quote unquote roast beef in her pants so these two have a long time acrimonious relationship saga but like I said to me it's just emblematic of a movement that everybody's trying to jockey for a position.

13:31They see, you know, the Trump era is coming to an end. They're trying to get in good with Trump. They're trying to shape what comes next. They hate each other. And it's all kind of bubbling to the surface in a way that we haven't really seen in the past. Yeah. I mean, I said this to you and look, I hope isn't taken to the wrong way. But as the parties switch up in terms of support based on education levels, It's not a surprise to see some of this burst out into the open. It's not exactly an elevated and classy dispute. It's, yeah, it's, look, I mean, you know, if you take a look. It's fun to cover.

14:05If you look at the ratings for the type of people who engage in reality television and those type of personalities. I mean, actually, let's think about it. One of the things that has happened in the last Trump realignment is that a lot of reality TV stars, bodybuilders, like people and all that who are lesser educated but also very popular have become Trump supporters. So it would make quite a bit of sense that that behavior – Of course, and Trump cabinet members. You're exactly right with WWE and UFC, everything. That's all Republican now. So, well, if that's the case, then that behavior is going to replicate itself.

14:40It's funny because it's at a demographic level. There's a viral thing going around right now of one of the richest neighborhoods in Illinois. It was a Republican district in 2012, and it's now D plus 35. And that's the story of America, right? Like a 2012, I think it's called Winneton. I don't know. I'm not from Illinois. But anyway, one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Illinois, voted for Mitt Romney by overwhelming margins, voted for Kamala by 35 points. And it's like, well, you know, those are the type of people who find a lot of this stuff very distasteful. But the people who find it hilarious and interesting, drama, et cetera, that's reality TV.

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17:53claims about things that she has seen. Now, claims are claims and we need to see evidence, but at the very least, we can take it for what it is. Let's take a listen. You said that you've seen evidence. Like what kind of evidence have you seen? I have seen photos. I have seen... What have you seen photos of? So I was in a skiff and I can't discuss all that was in a skiff, but what I can tell you is based on the photos that I've seen, I'm very confident that there's things out there that have not been created by mankind. It seems crazy that people have access to information that shows that there's something outside of us that is more intelligent, at least more capable than we are, and they hide it from everybody else.

18:35So let's just sit on that for a little bit, is that I've seen photos that I'm very confident that there are things that are out there that have not been created by mankind. This is allegedly like in a classified setting. And I have been pushing on this. It is so complicated because at the same time, she did claim that some of the whistleblowers who we've spoken about here on this show, how they pretended to have the flu before they were supposed to show up for a briefing. Those people have now come out, at least one of them, Lou Elizondo, and he's spoken about how that's not true. So there even seems to be some intrafighting within this relating to our previous block of messiness or whatever.

19:12And I'm not still quite sure exactly what's going on there. But at the end of the day, what her, Tim Burchett, and a few other members of Congress were pushing for were some of these briefings, photos, and other things that are said to exist. The difficulty on this is we have been hearing this now for quite some time, for years and years, right? I don't know how many times have I said it here on the show. And it's becoming exhausting for people to say that people who have seen classified images of this or that have yet been able to see actually something tangible. I will say on Luna's record, her attacks on the whistleblowers notwithstanding.

19:45On JFK, she's been solid. Don't take it from me. Take it from Jefferson Morley, who we've had here on the show, who I trust absolutely and totally on the JFK issue. And he said that she very seriously has been working with him and others in order to get the files out. They invited him to testify. He worked, I believe, with her office and it seems to have stuff behind the scenes, which allowed to get declassification or release and broadly saw that inquiry as serious. So if we take that together with the UFO issue, I'll say there's some implicit trust, at least on the track record. But it's been a long time since that UFO hearing.

20:17We're going to need to have another one. But by and large, it's like, just release it at this point. And is it, I mean, maybe it's like Epstein. It just, it exists. It can't be released. It's hidden. J.D. has said that he's, quote, working or whatever on the issue. Maybe Trump's in the UFO files. Maybe Trump is in the UFO files. I mean, do you want to know the best presidential theory on UFOs? Sure. is that Eisenhower had a summit with the aliens in 19— This is serious. I'm not kidding. Is that he had a summit with the aliens, I believe it was in 56, over how we're going to manage Earth and alien relations.

20:48Okay. That's a very serious, actually, topic. I mean, look, I'd like to see some more evidence. But on the UFO issue, very specifically, as a believer in the phenomenon, I will say at least it is encouraging that she says that she said this in a classified hearing, because at the very least, it's a falsifiable claim. What I want – that's why I loved when Dave Grush went under oath. I'm like we need more oath. We need more stuff which is falsifiable or not. No more illusions. Like she makes very specific claims. And specifically in this next clip, she made claims which, again, we can prove are false or not if the documentation is released.

21:24Let's take a listen. Do you think that it's possible that these are U.S. vehicles that are top secret? I definitely think that there's a level of advanced technology that the U.S. government has. And I think that that tech can be housed within the defense contract realm. And, of course, some information is going to be classified. But I can also tell you, and this might sound crazy, but based on our investigations and stuff that we've seen, okay, there is definitely something that I think would rival what we know currently with physics. and a tech that potentially is out there that we don't have the ability to reproduce because it would basically be like dropping a cell phone off back during the time of maybe caveman.

22:05So we just don't have the tech to develop it yet. There's definitely something that I can tell you with confidence that exists that we don't know how to explain currently. So when you say that it operates outside our understanding of physics, what specifically are you saying? What happened? To, I guess, break it down in simple terms is that I think that some of the tech that exists, that whatever these things have, these energy things have. Energy things? Yeah. Well, they call them interdimensional beings. I think that they can actually operate through the time spaces that we currently have. It's really changing the way that we understand, you know, the origins of life and the spiritual reality that we know.

22:47When you say interdimensional beings, that they know that these are interdimensional beings, how do they know that? That, so based on testimony, would be based on witnesses that have come forward. But what I can tell you is I've— So the witnesses just were told that they were interdimensional? No, no, that they've seen things. And what I can tell you without getting into classified conversations is that there have been incidences that I believe where very credible people have reported that there have been movement outside of time and space. That's very vague. Yeah. So look. Unfortunately. Yeah.

23:28Look, have I seen a portal open? No. Have I seen a spaceship? Personally, no. Have I seen evidence of this? Yes. Have I seen photo documentation of aircraft that I believe were not made by mankind? Yes. Is there historical significance to this? Yes. Is there multiple events that go back to, I would argue, maybe even before the time of Christ that have documented this in text? Yes. So do I believe that the government has access to certain technology? Yes, to an extent. And I believe that certain contractors potentially have back-engineered this tech. I think that that's what can explain the advancements that we're seeing.

24:11All right. I mean, what do you think, Crystal? I know it sounds crazy. At this point, we just got to see the evidence. That's part of it. My assumption, until I see any sort of evidence, is that this is bullshit and she's telling Rogan what she wants to hear. But that has to be the default assumption. If there's no evidence that's offered. I think that's totally fair. These are wild, extraordinary claims that are being made. So you better bring something other than you heard from a witness theoretically and there might be something, but you can't really say anything. I am getting sick of – I have seen – like former undersecretary of defense coming out and being like, I've seen that there's an extraordinary video.

24:48I've heard this now for probably five, six years, right, about this video that allegedly exists of a UFO passing in between two fighter aircraft. and the two pilots absolutely freak out at the level of speed. You know, very similar to the original videos. I mean, we're really sick of it. You can tell we're sick of it. Yeah, and I think that's the default at this point because we just have yet, we have heard so many promises, so much slow-lowering from the bureaucracy, from the Pentagon. We've seen so many claims like this. Luna, by the way, here is not testifying under oath, which Grush, to his credit, actually did.